mailserver

2006-08-08 Thread Goos
Hi,

TB is installead as server, long ago as I installed it.
Now I've a domain running on my local pc with a fixed IP.
Apache (under XP) is running well as http server, a
ftp server is running too.
But what do I have to do to get TB running as mailserver?

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Sanctioned bayes plugins (redux)

2006-08-08 Thread rich gregory
Hello Bat-Folk!

On the RitLabs site downloads page there are 3 anti spam downloads
available.

Bayes Filter Plugin by Achim Winkler
BayesIt! by Alexey Vinogradov
Agava Antispamservant Plugin

Anyone care to comment on these?

Thx
RG


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HTML templates

2006-08-08 Thread Robin Anson
Batfolk, 

I know this has been asked before, but I can't find it in the
archives.

Occasionally I want to send an HTML email, and I want to have a
template that includes HTML formatting. I know QTs don't support HTML
formatting, but is it (yet) possible to import a file into the HTML
editor that includes formatting?

Robin
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Re: mailserver

2006-08-08 Thread Chris W .

Goos @ 2006-8-08 2:13:12 AM
mailserver mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 But what do I have to do to get TB running as mailserver?

The Bat! is not a RFC-compliant mail server (i.e., other users will
not be able to connect to it via POP, IMAP, or SMTP). Ritlabs does
have an e-mail server available at:
http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/batpost/
I have not used it, however. Can someone who has comment on it?

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Re[2]: mailserver

2006-08-08 Thread Goos
Hi Chris,

 The Bat! is not a RFC-compliant mail server

Hmmm.. then I've misunderstood the 'server mode'
install option.

 http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/batpost/
 I have not used it, however. Can someone who has comment
 on it?

Yes, me too would like such comments.
Also how it will work together with The Bat! locally.

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Help with reinstall of version 3.80.06

2006-08-08 Thread Perry

Hello, List.

I am having to post this message using Gmail because the other day my
computer shut down unexpectedly just as The Bat!'s Connection Center
was in the process of checking mail.  When I rebooted, The Bat! would
not open because something was corrupted.  I was using OFTE at the
time.  No problem, I thought, I do have a backup, even if it is dated
6/17/06, so I'll simply uninstall and reinstall the program and then
restore from the backup.

Unfortunately, there was a problem.

I used Add/Remove programs (WinXP Pro, with SP2) to remove The Bat!.
That worked.  I used the MSI of The Bat! version 3.80.06 I had
downloaded earlier when I updated to that version and upon starting
it, I was prompted for my password which I entered as before.  However
at that point the program would not finish loading.  I got the splash
screen and it went away and the program drew on the screen but never
completed the loading the menus, etc.  It yielded a continuous series
of Access Violations.  I had to close it with the Task Manager.

So I again remove it with Add/Remove Programs.  I downloaded a new
copy of version 3.80.06 from the Ritlabs site and installed that.
Again, it appeared to install.  However, after entering my password,
which was accepted by the way, when I try to start it up, I still get
the AVs just after the splash screen goes away.  I can't get into The
Bat! so that I can restore from backup.  *And* because I can't get in,
the clock is ticking on my 30 day trial.

So I need some guidance as to what to do in order to get back into The
Bat! so I can restore my registered version and begin again using it.
(Fortunately, I still have a copy of my registration message stored in
Gmail that I can reimport to get it reregistered, if I can get the
program to load.)

Thanks for any advice you have to offer.

(Let's hope I can get the cut mark to work from this Gmail account.)

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Re: Sanctioned bayes plugins (redux)

2006-08-08 Thread MikeD (2)
Hello rich,

Tuesday, August 8, 2006, 2:14:46 AM, you wrote:

rg Hello Bat-Folk!

rg On the RitLabs site downloads page there are 3 anti spam downloads
rg available.

rg Bayes Filter Plugin by Achim Winkler
rg BayesIt! by Alexey Vinogradov
rg Agava Antispamservant Plugin

rg Anyone care to comment on these?

I have used BayesIt in the past.  It worked (mostly) OK.  I had no
problems with it, but it was not the most effective filter around (at
least the last time I used it g).  On the plus side, I =never= had a
false positive with it, but it only caught about 75 to 80% of the
spam.

I am using Agava now and it is much easier to get it to the point
where it was filtering relatively well.  It does a better overall job
of catching spam, about 90+%, but I =do= get the occasional false
positive.  That is 'worrisome' since it makes it more likely that I
will miss something ... nor can I just ignore the spam folder.

I have not tried Bayes Filter.

There are days I think about going back to BayesIt again to see if it
has gotten any better.  But I am mostly lazy and have not gotten
around to it g

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Re: Sanctioned bayes plugins (redux)

2006-08-08 Thread Mark Partous

Hello MikeD,

Tuesday, August 8, 2006, 1:37:33 PM, you wrote:

M2 Hello rich,

M2 Tuesday, August 8, 2006, 2:14:46 AM, you wrote:

rg Bayes Filter Plugin by Achim Winkler
rg BayesIt! by Alexey Vinogradov
rg Agava Antispamservant Plugin

rg Anyone care to comment on these?

M2 There are days I think about going back to BayesIt again to see if it
M2 has gotten any better.  But I am mostly lazy and have not gotten
M2 around to it g

Rich has missed one. And you could test the severeness of your laziness :-)
by trying out this one:

,--/ from a message from Marek Mikus: \
|  developer of AntispamSniper released FREE version of its plugin, this version
|  misses some advanced features (DNSBL, deleting spam on server, Anti-phishing
|  etc.), but it is fully functional and with no trial.
|  
|  Download: http://antispamsniper.com/thebat_plugin.html
|  
|  Upgrade info: http://antispamsniper.com/upgrade.html
`-8---

After trying it out for ± a month I have paid for the commercial version.

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Re: Help with reinstall of version 3.80.06

2006-08-08 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Perry,
Tuesday, August 8, 2006, 6:36:49 AM, you wrote:

 Thanks for any advice you have to offer.

 (Let's hope I can get the cut mark to work from this Gmail account.)

You  could  try renaming your mail directory to see if that is causing
the  problem. TB should recreate a new directory and then you can copy
files over until you find out where the problem lies.

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Re: Filter: Add Block?

2006-08-08 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Chris,

On Mon, 7 Aug 2006 22:48:36 -0400 GMT (08/08/2006, 09:48 +0700 GMT),
Chris W. wrote:

 How did you do that? My account filters are just not triggered. Or do
 you have continue with other filters checked in the account filters?

CW My common filters have Continue processing other filters checked.

Sorry, I cannot do that. It has already been ruled out.
But thanks for your input.

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Spyware/trojan targets TB!

2006-08-08 Thread Cricket
Make sure your anti-spyware and anti-virus data files are up to date ...

From a recent issue of Esecurityplanet:
RuSpy.A  is a Trojan that obtains the usernames and passwords from certain
programs, such as ICQ, Internet Explorer, Mozilla, Outlook, and The Bat!,
among others. The harvested information is then sent to its author in an
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Re: Help with reinstall of version 3.80.06

2006-08-08 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Perry!

On Tuesday, August 08, 2006, 6:36 AM, you wrote:

 So I need some guidance as to what to do in order to get back into The
 Bat! so I can restore my registered version and begin again using it.
 (Fortunately, I still have a copy of my registration message stored in
 Gmail that I can reimport to get it reregistered, if I can get the
 program to load.)

 Thanks for any advice you have to offer.

Since you're running XP, you could use its Restore capability
(Programs/Accessories/System Tools/System Restore) to go back a day or
so to the time before your computer unexpectedly shut down.

As a last resort.

I've done this successfully a number of times to get back to the
latest release version, after a bad experience with a TB! beta
version.

All data is conserved, but the application versions are changed back
to the date of the restore point.

Back up everything before you do the restore, though, just in case!

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Re: Help with reinstall of version 3.80.06

2006-08-08 Thread Perry Nelson

Stuart Cuddy wrote:

You  could  try renaming your mail directory to see if that is causing
the  problem. TB should recreate a new directory and then you can copy
files over until you find out where the problem lies.


Thanks for the suggestion Stuart. 

As I was looking trying to locate my mail directory to rename it, I came 
across an except.log file there.  Here are its contents, in the hope 
they will help you or someone else help me with this issue. 

It said: v3.80.06 05:14:01/05:14:01 8/5/2006 05:14:01 
ThdInitVFolders:Can't perform initial update EAccessViolation Access 
violation at address 008C59E0 in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address 
025D4004.


Does that ring any bells for you?

Now back to renaming the mail directory.  All the account folders are in 
c:\Documents and Settings\Perry Nelson\Application Data\The Bat!Pwd.  
Are you suggesting that I rename The Bat!Pwd to something else and then 
try to open The Bat! again?  If not, can you tell me where the mail 
directory might be if this isn't it?  I accepted the default locations 
when installing the program. 

And just for the record, although I am posing these questions to you 
because you responded, they are really intended for anyone who might 
know the answers.  I don't mean to put you on the spot.


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Re: Help with reinstall of version 3.80.06

2006-08-08 Thread Perry Nelson

Mary Bull wrote:

Since you're running XP, you could use its Restore capability
(Programs/Accessories/System Tools/System Restore) to go back a day or
so to the time before your computer unexpectedly shut down.


Thanks Mary. That's a great idea that hadn't occurred to me.  I'll give 
that a go and see if I can't get things back.


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Re: Help with reinstall of version 3.80.06

2006-08-08 Thread Perry Nelson

Perry Nelson wrote:

I'll give that a go and see if I can't get things back.


I'm replying to myself to report back that even restoring to two days 
before the event did NOT resolve the problem. I'm still getting the 
cascading AVs.  sigh  I've got to believe there is a way to do this, 
but frankly I don't know what it is.


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Re: Spyware/trojan targets TB!

2006-08-08 Thread Charlene Ferrara
Hi Cricket,

Tuesday, August 08, 2006 
you let us know -possibly edited- :
 RuSpy.A  is a Trojan that obtains the usernames and passwords from certain
 programs, such as ICQ, Internet Explorer, Mozilla, Outlook, and The Bat!

I guess that doesn't affect users of the Pro version, due to the OTFE.
Is this right?

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Re: Help with reinstall of version 3.80.06

2006-08-08 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Perry!

On Tuesday, August 08, 2006, 10:20 AM, you wrote:

 I'll give that a go and see if I can't get things back.

 I'm replying to myself to report back that even restoring to two days 
 before the event did NOT resolve the problem. I'm still getting the 
 cascading AVs.  sigh  I've got to believe there is a way to do this,
 but frankly I don't know what it is.

Sorry to hear that didn't work.

Try renaming the thebat.exe in your folder for The Bat! Then ask
Add/Remove to do a Repair with the Set-Up Wizard. Sometimes that has
worked for me.

Or, as Stuart suggested, if you haven't already tried that, you could
rename the Mail subfolder in your TB! folder. My TB! folder's path is
C:\Program Files\The Bat! .

Alternatively, you could rename the folder itself--something like Old
The Bat! .

Then do a completely fresh MSI install, and after that--if it will
load--start moving the files from Old The Bat! .

This is a tedious way to go, I know.

And someone a lot more knowledgeable than I am may have a better, more
convenient suggestion of what will work.

(Goes without saying that TB! should be closed whenever you are
renaming or moving files and/or folders manually.)

Hope this is a little more help than my last suggestion.

Keep us posted, please!

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Re: Sanctioned bayes plugins (redux)

2006-08-08 Thread jim
On Tuesday, August 8, 2006, at 1:14:46 AM, rich gregory wrote:

 Anyone care to comment on these?

I tried the first two, then came across the AntiSpamSniper mentioned
in another reply. After using it for a couple of days (the free
version, which doesn't have all the features) I found it to be doing a
much better job of learning and classifying, so will be buying it.
I've not tried the last one, but the Sniper is doing so well I feel no
need to keep searching...

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Re: Help with reinstall of version 3.80.06

2006-08-08 Thread Perry Nelson

Mary Bull wrote:

Sorry to hear that didn't work.
  


Well it wasn't because we didn't try.


Try renaming the thebat.exe in your folder for The Bat! Then ask
Add/Remove to do a Repair with the Set-Up Wizard. Sometimes that has
worked for me.

Or, as Stuart suggested, if you haven't already tried that, you could
rename the Mail subfolder in your TB! folder. My TB! folder's path is
C:\Program Files\The Bat! .

Alternatively, you could rename the folder itself--something like Old
The Bat! .

Then do a completely fresh MSI install, and after that--if it will
load--start moving the files from Old The Bat! .
  


For what it's worth, the OFTE installation of The Bat! doesn't have a 
mail directory under C:\Program Files\The Bat!.  Instead there is a 
folder under C:\Documents and Settings\Perry Nelson\Application Data 
called The Bat! Pwd where the folder and message base is located. When I 
renamed that folder and tried to open The Bat!, I got an error message 
saying, Cannot open file 'C:\Documents and Settings\Perry 
Nelson\Application Data\The Bat! Pwd\ikey.id.'  The system cannot find 
the path specified.  But at least doing that didn't produce cascading AVs.


Renaming thebat.exe to old_thebat.exe and running the repair didn't work 
either.  Same cascading AVs.


This situation would lead me to offer a word of caution to potential 
users of the OFTE option. If you have a situation such as I do, you have 
no way to recover your messages, since even if you have a backup, it is 
useless because it is encrypted.  Another down side of OFTE is that you 
can't move folders across account boundaries in your message base.  
(That bug has already been logged by the way.)  What would be nice is 
for Ritlabs to produce a decryption tool for a backed up file that could 
be used outside of The Bat! if you know the password for the encrypted 
backup file.



(Goes without saying that TB! should be closed whenever you are
renaming or moving files and/or folders manually.)
  


Thanks for the warning, but since I can't get it to open, any change I 
make will *have* to be when it's closed.



Keep us posted, please!


Consider yourselves posted. 

Unless someone else has some other magic you think I should try, I guess 
I'll consider this the technogods' way of telling me that it's time for 
me to take a break from The Bat! and perfect the art of using 
Thunderbird instead. 


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Re: Help with reinstall of version 3.80.06

2006-08-08 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Perry!

On Tuesday, August 08, 2006, 12:21 PM, you wrote:

 Unless someone else has some other magic you think I should try, I guess
 I'll consider this the technogods' way of telling me that it's time for
 me to take a break from The Bat! and perfect the art of using 
 Thunderbird instead.

One more idea: post the problem on TBBETA.

There are many more technically able people there, and the RitLabs
team reads there more often than it does on TBUDL.

OTFE was developed through a beta series, so it's not too far
off-topic, I think, to post about its deficiencies on TBBETA.

Go here to join the list, if you haven't already:

http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/

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Re: Help with reinstall of version 3.80.06

2006-08-08 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Perry  everyone else,

on 08-Aug-2006 at 13:36 you (Perry) wrote:

 So I need some guidance as to what to do in order to get back into The
 Bat! so I can restore my registered version and begin again using it.

Just an idea.

When you uninstalled TB, did you manually check (in Explorer) that no
files were left?

Maybe one of the configuration files remained on disk, and it is
corrupted and part of the problem. Or maybe its one of the messagebase
files thats corrupted. IIRC the installer has an option to leave the
files on disk, or delete them when uninstalling, if you left the files
TB is running into a corrupted encrypted messagebase file and can't cope
with it.

I'd make sure that really *everything* is gone after the uninstall (by
manually checking the program files directory and your user profile
directory where the messagebases are) and try again with a fresh install
then.

Oh, and copy the existing messagebase files away if they're still on
disk. If you have success with the new installation, you can try to move
the original messagebase files back (while TB is not running - and make
sure to delete the indexfiles so that TB can rebuild them).

If its a corrupted msgbase file, maybe you can locate it that way. It
would be good to keep it then and, if privacy permits it, maybe send it
to Ritlabs so that they can try to reproduce the problem (and avoid it
in the future).

HTH

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Re: Help with reinstall of version 3.80.06

2006-08-08 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Alexander!

On Tuesday, August 08, 2006, 1:13 PM, you wrote:

 If its a corrupted msgbase file, maybe you can locate it that way. It
 would be good to keep it then and, if privacy permits it, maybe send it
 to Ritlabs so that they can try to reproduce the problem (and avoid it
 in the future).

Alexander, I'm really happy to see you putting your good mind to
Perry's problem!

Don't miss that his message base is encrypted through OTFE.

I think, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] , he gives a clue that the
problem is a corrupted message base. Because, with the folder
containing Mail renamed, he didn't get the cascading AVs when he tried
to launch. Or is my thinking on that faulty?

I'm quoting what Perry said, below:

P For what it's worth, the OFTE installation of The Bat! doesn't have a
P mail directory under C:\Program Files\The Bat!.  Instead there is a
P folder under C:\Documents and Settings\Perry Nelson\Application Data
P called The Bat! Pwd where the folder and message base is located. When I
P renamed that folder and tried to open The Bat!, I got an error message
P saying, Cannot open file 'C:\Documents and Settings\Perry
P Nelson\Application Data\The Bat! Pwd\ikey.id.'  The system cannot find
P the path specified.  But at least doing that didn't produce cascading AVs.

Perry still has the password. But he can't get TB! to launch, thereby
decrypting the mails.

Well, you probably already did understand all this.

But Perry's difficulty has wider implications, for other TB! users, as
both you and he noted.

So I hope either you or another of the subscribers here who have
programming skills will have some idea of how he can access those
encrypted mails.

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Re[2]: Sanctioned bayes plugins (redux)

2006-08-08 Thread rich gregory
rg Bayes Filter Plugin by Achim Winkler
rg BayesIt! by Alexey Vinogradov
rg Agava Antispamservant Plugin
rg  - Anyone care to comment on these?

MP Rich has missed one.
MP ,--/ from a message from Marek Mikus: \
MP |  developer of AntispamSniper released FREE version of its plugin, this 
version
MP |  misses some advanced features (DNSBL, deleting spam on server, 
Anti-phishing
MP |  etc.), but it is fully functional and with no trial.
MP |  
MP |  Download: http://antispamsniper.com/thebat_plugin.html
MP |  
MP |  Upgrade info: http://antispamsniper.com/upgrade.html
MP `-8---
MP After trying it out for ± a month I have paid for the commercial version.


Actually, I didn't miss it.. I was just quoting from the RitLabs web
site... I am in fact trying this product now myself but am always
looking for greener grass.



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Re: Sanctioned bayes plugins (redux)

2006-08-08 Thread Mica Mijatovic
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Re: Sanctioned bayes plugins (redux)

2006-08-08 Thread Mark Partous

Hello rich,

Tuesday, August 8, 2006, 9:17:57 PM, you wrote:

rg Actually, I didn't miss it.. I was just quoting from the RitLabs web
rg site... I am in fact trying this product now myself but am always
rg looking for greener grass.

Did you ever check if your stomach happens to have four compartments?

:-)

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Best Wishes,
Mark
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Re: mailserver

2006-08-08 Thread Leif Gregory
Hello Goos,

Tuesday, August 8, 2006, 5:27:45 AM, you wrote:
 Yes, me too would like such comments. Also how it will work together
 with The Bat! locally.

I haven't used it, but many of us TB users who also run mailservers
use Mercury Mail, which is a free and very feature rich mail server.

http://www.pmail.com/overviews/ovw_mercwin.htm

It works very well with TB in POP3, SMTP, IMAP4 etc. Even using TLS.
One caveat on IMAP... It worked and did what I needed it to with TB,
but there are more fluent IMAP TB users who might have other opinions
and they'll probably be more accurate than mine.


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Re: HOWTO for syncing Voyager?

2006-08-08 Thread Andrew Diederich

On 8/4/06, Richard Wakeford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello Andrew,

Thank goodness I'm not the only one then. It's not at all clear as to
which version you synchronise from and to, is it? :-(


I logged a ticket with Ritlabs support.  Short version: Synchronise is
depricated, doesn't work, will be replaced at some unknown date with
something better.  There is no way of sync'ing between TB Pro and
Voyager except for a backup/restore between the two.

Another suggestion from support was to leave all the mail on the
server, and let Voyager and TB just manage it separately.  They
suggested always BCC'ing myself so I'd get a copy of mail I sent, too.
Hmm, it'll duplicate sent mail on the sending client.

I hadn't seen this in the archives, so I'm including this for
posterity.  Keywords: sync, syncing, synchronize, voyager, TB!

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Re: Help with reinstall of version 3.80.06

2006-08-08 Thread Perry Nelson

Alexander S. Kunz wrote:

When you uninstalled TB, did you manually check (in Explorer) that no
files were left?


No, I did not check that in any earlier uninstall efforts.  I have just 
now uninstalled again, and this time I did check it.  Although I chose 
the option *not* to keep any files on the disk, to my amazement, I find 
that the message base folder I mentioned earlier, The Bat! Pwd, is still 
there in all its glory.  And under C:\Program Files\  there are *two* 
The Bat! folders, one of them has the name The Bat!(2).  See this 
screenshot.


http://img398.imageshack.us/my.php?image=appdataqw3.png

Here is a screenshot of the contents of the folder named The Bat!:

http://img59.imageshack.us/my.php?image=folderthebatiw1.png

This may be significant as you look at these screenshots.  I upgraded to 
the Pro version on 12/23/2005. 


This is a screenshot of the folder named The Bat!(2):

http://img69.imageshack.us/my.php?image=folderthebatencryptedah6.png

This screenshot shows one of the accounts in my encrypted installation 
folder:


http://img85.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tildeinextensionab3.png

Here is a screenshot of the mail folder of my encrypted installation.  
Notice the presence of the ikey.id file, highlighted in yellow. 


http://img241.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thebatpwdfq2.png

I'm sure all of that is more than you wanted to know, but maybe it will 
offer some clues..



I'd make sure that really *everything* is gone after the uninstall (by
manually checking the program files directory and your user profile
directory where the messagebases are) and try again with a fresh install
then.
  


As you can see, even though I specified NOT to retain any files, a whole 
lot is left. 


HTH


And I hope these screenshots give you some information about what may be 
going on and suggests the next strategy.  Let me ask if anyone thinks 
that trying an install that is NOT in the default locations would help. 

Sorry for the delay in replying to your message, Alexander, but I was 
away from my computer for several hours this afternoon and evening.  
Thanks for all your help.


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Re: Spyware/trojan targets TB!

2006-08-08 Thread Chris W .

Charlene Ferrara @ 2006-8-08 11:39:42 AM
Spyware/trojan targets TB! mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 RuSpy.A is a Trojan that obtains the usernames and passwords from
 certain programs, such as ICQ, Internet Explorer, Mozilla, Outlook,
 and The Bat!
 I guess that doesn't affect users of the Pro version, due to the
 OTFE. Is this right?

Probably not. Or, it might prompt you for your OTFE password/token at
weird times.

-- 
Chris

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Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of tapes
hurling down the highway.
-Andrew S. Tanenbaum

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Re: mailserver

2006-08-08 Thread Chris W .

Goos @ 2006-8-08 7:27:45 AM
mailserver mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 The Bat! is not a RFC-compliant mail server
 Hmmm.. then I've misunderstood the 'server mode' install option.

Think more along the lines of a group mail server. That is, The Bat!
acts as a central repository for the e-mail within an organization,
but Internal mail is housed elsewhere.

Intra-organization can go directly through The Bat! to the other
users. However, Internet mail still relies on a third part, like the
ISP.

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