Re: Seeking hints on using 2 proxies

2008-01-27 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello rich,

On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 03:38:18 -0500 GMT (23/01/2008, 15:38 +0700 GMT),
rich gregory wrote:

rg Assuming it can be done... (I'm sure it can!)

It can. It's about ports.

rg I now have TB! (v2.12) set to use SpamPal as a 127.0.0.1 RECEIVE proxy.

So TB! connects to localhost (127.0.0.1) at port 110 for receiving
messages, right?

Spampal is set to connect to your POP server at port 110 as well. Is
it?

rg I now also need to use X-Ray, which also wants to situate itself in the
rg proxy role, to strip a RETURN-PATH from certain outgoing messages (which
rg I understand TB! cannot do).

You are now mixing up incoming messages (port 110) and outgoing
messages (port 25). What is your setting (server and port) in TB! for
incoming messages?

And what is the setting in XRay? Does it for any reason also listen at
port 110 for incoming messages?

rg I am sure someone out there has done/is doing this (or something
rg like it) and can convey some wisdom as to setup considerations!

Since you use Spampal for incoming and XRay for outgoing messages,
there should be no conflict. If there is, my first guess is that XRay
also listens at port 110, which it shouldn't.

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Re: Account for common virtual folders

2008-01-27 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Carsten,

On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 16:58:25 +0100 GMT (26/01/2008, 22:58 +0700 GMT),
Carsten Guthardt-Schulz wrote:

 In the folder properties add a macro for New Message containing
 %ACCOUNT=accountname

CGS I can't: These folders do not have Templates. In the Edit
CGS Folder Properties window I only have the two sections
CGS General and Filter.

True, common folders don't have tempaltes.

CGS This is really a big problem, since I mostly read my messages in
CGS Virtual Folders, and whenever I create a new message now, it's
CGS default account is the wrong one, and I have to change it
CGS manually on each email.

I don't think think the problem is the virtual folder but that the
message is located in a common folder.

This is what I have done: XRay adds a header X-Apparently-To to each
incoming message, showing the account on which it was originally
received. When replying, the reply template uses it and extracts the
account name, and with the %Account= macro and a regex the correct
account is used for sending.

I think you are a new member of this list; I posted the template here
only recently. If you think this would work for you, I'll see whether
I still have the message on my computer.

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ISSUE: Shell [Command, Visual Basic] - FOCUS WINDOW [TheBat]

2008-01-27 Thread St - Musaic.Net

  Hello!

  I have a [Visual Basic] Focus Window problem with TheBat.

  I have created an application that use the IPC-funtionality.
  Basically, the application from time to time generates IPC-
  files that are collected into a main IPC-file. This file is
  then pushed into TheBat by way of the Shell command in VB,
  the VB-line looks as follows:

  RunIT = Shell(TheBatExecutableFile +  /BATCH: + Chr(34) _
  + GlobalPathTempDirectory + js(tb-bridge).ipc + Chr(34), 0)
  
  As for the execution of the Batch, it works as expected.
  However, each time this command is executed, TheBat focuses
  itself. The , 0 in the VB line is the windowstyle and
  means Window is hidden and focus is passed to the hidden
  window. Using , 0 should remain TheBat hidden, yet each
  time an IPC-batch is forwarded, the already running TheBat
  is restored to front and maximixed.

  Why isn't TheBat respecting the windowstyle?

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  PS! The windowstyle named argument has these values:

  vbHide
0
Window is hidden and focus is passed to the hidden
window.

  vbNormalFocus
1
Window has focus and is restored to its original size
and position.

  vbMinimizedFocus
2
Window is displayed as an icon with focus.

  vbMaximizedFocus
3
Window is maximized with focus.

  vbNormalNoFocus
4
Window is restored to its most recent size and position.
The currently active window remains active.

  vbMinimizedNoFocus
6
Window is displayed as an icon. The currently active
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Re[2]: Account for common virtual folders

2008-01-27 Thread Carsten Guthardt-Schulz
Hello Thomas,

Sunday, January 27, 2008, 3:41:04 PM, you wrote:


 This is what I have done: XRay adds a header X-Apparently-To to each
 incoming message, showing the account on which it was originally
 received. When replying, the reply template uses it and extracts the
 account name, and with the %Account= macro and a regex the correct
 account is used for sending.

Well, the problem is not with replying: When replying, The Bat automatically 
replies from the account the original message (not the one in the VFolder) is 
located in. So that's fine.

My problem is when creating a *new* message. Usually it is created from the 
account currently selected, or from the default account if you click on a 
mailto: link. But when browsing Virtual Folders, it is created from an account 
that is not the default account. I habe no idea why, but the problem is 
reproducable, and I don't see a way where to configure the default from: - 
account for new messages created when viewing a virtual folder.

It looks like a bug, maybe I'll have to report it to bugtrack.

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Re: Account for common virtual folders

2008-01-27 Thread MFPA
Hi

On Sunday 27 January 2008 at 9:17:20 PM, in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Carsten Guthardt-Schulz
wrote:


 My problem is when creating a *new* message. Usually it is
 created from the account currently selected, or from the default
 account if you click on a mailto: link. But when browsing
 Virtual Folders, it is created from an account that is not the
 default account. I habe no idea why, but the problem is
 reproducable, and I don't see a way where to configure the
 default from: - account for new messages created when viewing a virtual 
 folder.

Here, if I create a new message when the selected folder is a
common virtual folder I get a dialog box to select the account
before a new message window opens. I also get this if I click a
mailto: link.


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Re: Account for common virtual folders

2008-01-27 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Carsten,

On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 22:17:20 +0100 GMT (28/01/2008, 04:17 +0700 GMT),
Carsten Guthardt-Schulz wrote:

CGS Well, the problem is not with replying: When replying, The Bat
CGS automatically replies from the account the original message (not
CGS the one in the VFolder) is located in. So that's fine.

OK.

CGS My problem is when creating a *new* message. Usually it is
CGS created from the account currently selected, or from the default
CGS account if you click on a mailto: link. But when browsing Virtual
CGS Folders, it is created from an account that is not the default
CGS account. I habe no idea why, but the problem is reproducable, and
CGS I don't see a way where to configure the default from: - account
CGS for new messages created when viewing a virtual folder.

There should be a pop-up, see MFPA's message.

CGS It looks like a bug, maybe I'll have to report it to bugtrack.

Let us first know which version you are using.

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128518 * IMAP configuration

2008-01-27 Thread monsell
Hi Mr Peter,


On 25-01-2008 17:29, you wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 once the server is cleared, messages disappear since no messages are
 stored in the server. i guess this is what IMAP is supposed to do.

Er, the point with IMAP is that messages are (also) stored on the
server.

 1. how can i keep all the incoming messages fully downloaded and saved
to my IN box (like POP where once downloaded it is saved in the IN
box).

Account properties  Manage IMAP folders. Make sure all folders you want
to have available locally are set to synchronize to Full messages

for your information, messages that has been exchanged for the last
5 months are always stored in the computer by a separate In and
SENT folders created under another main folder (X).

Well, the whole point of IMAP is that messages are stored on the server.
However, you can create folders on the IMAP server (like with POP3) so
you can move the messages there.

 2. in POP mode, ctrl+shift+F2 gives the despatcher to delete, download
mail etc, from the server. in IMAP how is this done? how can one
delete the mail from the server? ctrl+shift+F2 does not work for
IMAP?

When you delete (and purge) mail in IMAP it is deleted from the server.
You can set TB to download (synchronize) only headers. This way you
can preview headers à la dispatcher.

 3. i have abt 25 filters activated to ease up and check PRIORITY
messages. i did some test messages with filtering conditions, but
when mail appears in the IN box, it is not filtered since i guess
that the mail is only a copy appearing as it is on the server and
that the mail itself is not downloaded. how can i get around this
situation?

Account properties  Properties  IMAP Fine-tune. Make sure Retrieve
messages structures with message bodies and auto filtering is checked.

It might also make sense to make sure the filters are only triggered on
the inbox and sent folders of your account.

 4. finally, can i convert my POP account to IMAP or do i have to
create a new account and go over again on the settings? any sort
cuts?

I am not sure. I think you may be able to convert it.

++

Thank you so much for assisting me by your reply. Appreciated. Still
IMAP is very confusing for me. Under a normal set-up, it is really
good where online messages appear as they arrive into the mail
server, but the other set ups like filtering and all that stuff is
definitely greek to me. However, may be with further study and
information, I could set it up to work as normal as like my POP mail.

any way, what I did to overcome this situation was that since our
company's email is operated under FASTMAIL, I have installed their
FASTCHECK which uses the IMAP interface. So, when ever new mail
arrives at my server, a small window opens showing the arrived message
(from address + subject). Ofcourse then I have to down load same to
view and reply. We are talking about seconds here, just like the IMAP
interface.

This tool, FASTCHECK too is great.

Thanks once more for your kind help.

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Re: 128518 * IMAP configuration

2008-01-27 Thread Peter Fjelsten
monsell,

On 28-01-2008 06:20, you wrote in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 However, may be with further study and information, I could set it up
 to work as normal as like my POP mail.

Well, the point of the IMAP protocol is that all e-mail is stored on the
server instead of locally.

You can then decide how much of the message you want to to synchronize
locally. Maybe you just want headers or maybe you want the full message.

The beauty of IMAP is that if you need your mail from another computer
or via webmail, all your mail (also old mail) is there, in the folders
you have created for it.

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128518 * IMAP configuration

2008-01-27 Thread monsell
Hi Mr Peter,

On 28-01-2008 06:20, you wrote in

Well, the point of the IMAP protocol is that all e-mail is stored on the
server instead of locally.

yes of course they do, as you had clearly explained to me.


You can then decide how much of the message you want to to synchronize
locally. Maybe you just want headers or maybe you want the full message.

Actually, since this is not my personal email but it is our company
email, I want all messages to be downloaded, just like the POP
interface and what i do is store the the IN messages in a different
folder called X and the SENT messages are stored in another folder
called Y. I store messages upto 5 months old.

The beauty of IMAP is that if you need your mail from another computer
or via webmail, all your mail (also old mail) is there, in the folders
you have created for it.

This is very important especially during after office hours or during
a week end. I check mail leaving them on the server, during this
period and once in office, down load them all and clear the server due
to restricted space allocation on the server.

Let me get this straight, once the IMAP is configured and your server
comes online, the IN box is filled with messages as appearing on your
server, but the IN box does not have the messages downloaded? Is it a
copy of the messages that appears in your IN box? Then, how do i
activate the filters for this IN box if the messages are itself not
physically downloaded? do i have to move the messages from IN box to X
box and then run the filters from here? I do have filters activated
for IN and SENT boxes and i must admit the filters and sub-filters
just works fine for me. Priority is given to filtered messages.
do you mean that the folders in the server should be created or the
desktop client that i use? in our server it got only IN,OUT,SENT and
TRASH but in my desktop client (TB), i got a lot of folders,
sub-folders, filters and sub-filters since i use POP interface.

Sorry, but the IMAP is still a bit complicated for me, but would
really want to set it up to run smoothly.

i use TB v.3.0.1.33. May be this is an old version but would like to
stick with it since i dont want any problems trying to install newer
versions and lose all what i got, incase of a problem.

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