Re: Auto filtering of incoming mail

2008-09-29 Thread Jon Polish
Hi Sefan:

I hope all is well with you. I have not heard anything further and am
wondering if this will ever get resolved.

Jon
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Re: Auto filtering of incoming mail

2008-09-18 Thread Jon Polish
On Monday, September 15, 2008, 4:48:48 AM, Stefan Tanurkov wrote:

ST> Hello Jon,

JP>> I sent the files as instructed, but have not heard back. Did you
JP>> receive them?

ST>   Yes I did.  Please excuse me for answering so late - I had to
ST>   resolve some local problems last week...

Any updates? I cannot sort this problem out. I tried deleting all the
account.srb files and rebuilding the filters. I was unsuccessful in
getting my main account to filter automatically.

Thank you for your help.

Jon


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Re: Auto filtering of incoming mail

2008-09-15 Thread Jon Polish
On Monday, September 15, 2008, 4:48:48 AM, Stefan Tanurkov wrote:

ST> Hello Jon,

JP>> I sent the files as instructed, but have not heard back. Did you
JP>> receive them?

ST>   Yes I did.  Please excuse me for answering so late - I had to
ST>   resolve some local problems last week... Additionally, your server
ST>   refuses my messages because something is "blocked for abuse".

Sorry. I don't know what that is about. Yours is the first complaint.
I will sent you a PM with another address.

ST>   I'm playing with your files, but could not see any anomaly so far -
ST>   everything just works fine, I can add, edit, delete filters and they
ST>   continue to work.

Same here, but they just do not trigger automatically during the
download process. If I use the original file (untouched), the
filtering is automatic, but for some reason it takes forever to delete
each message on the server and then log off.

ST>   May be something is wrong with your message base? Is there anything
ST>   strange in the log files? Also, do the filters fail to work in all
ST>   accounts or just in some of them?

I do not detect anything awry with the message base. It is regularly
- at least once a day for all folders in all accounts - compressed.
It seems that the failure is with the account named "Jon Polish." The
other accounts seem to be working automatically.

Jon

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Re: Quick Template Editor background colour

2008-09-12 Thread Jon Polish
On Friday, September 12, 2008, 3:31:07 PM, MFPA wrote:

M> Which reminds me: anybody know a good, free Notepad replacement that
M> can be set up to use pale text on a dark background?
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Jarte has a free edition which might suit your requirements.
 http://www.jarte.com/

 Jon

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Re: Auto filtering of incoming mail

2008-09-11 Thread Jon Polish
On Friday, September 5, 2008, 5:29:11 AM, Stefan Tanurkov wrote:

ST> Hello Jon,

ST> I need to examine both of the .srb files (the original one and the
ST> other one after modification). Could you please send them to me
ST> privately?

Hi Stefan:

I sent the files as instructed, but have not heard back. Did you
receive them?

Jon

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Re: Auto filtering of incoming mail

2008-09-05 Thread Jon Polish
On Friday, September 5, 2008, 5:29:11 AM, Stefan Tanurkov wrote:

ST> Hello Jon,


JP>> Thanks for replying. No, they are not set to manual. The funny thing
JP>> is that when I restore the account.srb files (I have several accounts)
JP>> from version 3.99, the filters all work automatically.

ST> I need to examine both of the .srb files (the original one and the
ST> other one after modification). Could you please send them to me
ST> privately?

Sure. They are on their way. Please let me know what you find and if I
screwed up.

Jon


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Re: Auto filtering of incoming mail

2008-09-03 Thread Jon Polish
On Wednesday, September 3, 2008, 12:23:12 PM, Stefan Tanurkov wrote:

ST> Could you please check whether those filters have the Manual Only flag
ST> set?

Thanks for replying. No, they are not set to manual. The funny thing
is that when I restore the account.srb files (I have several accounts)
from version 3.99, the filters all work automatically. The only
problems are:

1. While the old filters work, it takes forever to import and delete
messages from the server. I don't understand why this should be.

2. If I make any change to these files (add a filter, delete a filter,
make a filter inactive, etc.), they no longer work automatically.

Jon



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Auto filtering of incoming mail

2008-09-02 Thread Jon Polish
This message has been re-sent because apparently the original did not
make it to the list. If it ever does, my apologies for duplicate
posting.

Can someone please help me with this? I had a number of filters which
automatically sort incoming mail to different folders. The filters
worked perfectly until some time after v4.0.x. I seem to recall others
having some difficulty with filters created using v3.x which do not
work correctly in 4. but I don't think this is my problem. How can I
restore this functionality? By the way, re-filtering my inbox works
although the filtering should occur automatically during message
retrieval.

Thank you.

Jon

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Re: Folder deletion and restoration

2008-06-13 Thread Jon Polish
On Thursday, June 12, 2008, 9:25:21 AM, Thomas Fernandez wrote:



TF> I've been through this procedure.

It seems that I have also been through this. Importing the tbb file
is the procedure that worked for me.

Thanks for your help.

Jon

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Re: Folder deletion and restoration

2008-06-11 Thread Jon Polish
On Wednesday, June 11, 2008, 10:18:04 AM, Roelof Otten wrote:


RO> Do you have the focus on the account tree pane when pressing
RO> Ctrl-Shift-Alt-L?

Thank you Roelof, but that is what I was doing. TB reports 0 lost
folders found. The folder is there in all its 2GB glory. I can see it
in Windows Explorer.

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Folder deletion and restoration

2008-06-11 Thread Jon Polish
Hi:

I have deleted several folder from my message base but chose the
option to "Keep the message base files intact." I want some of these
back in my folder structure, but cannot find a way to accomplish this.
SHIFT+ALT+CTRL+L does not accomplish this. I am sure it is something
obvious that I am overlooking.

Thank you.

Jon

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Re: TB doesn't appear to close properly

2006-05-31 Thread Jon Polish
On Tuesday, May 30, 2006, 1:47:36 PM, Admin at AK wrote:

AaA> At the end of every day I maintain folders, do a backup and close down TB
AaA> before shutting down the PC.

AaA> I do have a schedule that does an auto folder maintain and backup every six
AaA> hours during the day.

AaA> When I shut down the PC everything happens as you would esxpect except that
AaA> more often than not I get a message saying that TB is still running and
AaA> should I 'End Now'.

AaA> Is that the Scheduler or is it something else does anyone have any idea?

I suspect that this is all due to the slow shutdown speed (and overall
performance) of the latest TB versions. If you are patient, try
bringing up Task Manager and monitor when TB actually shuts down. I
warn you that the longer you run TB, the longer it takes to close.

Jon

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Re: Forwarding problem with 3.80.03

2006-05-16 Thread Jon Polish
On Monday, May 15, 2006, 6:34:20 PM, Marten Gallagher wrote:

MG> I wonder, Jon, are you brave enough to try the latest version which is
MG> supposed to have fixed it, and let me know the result.

MG> I have a number of mission critical filters on my machine, set up for web
MG> clients, and I dare not risk testing it myself unless I have to.

Brave? Thanks for the compliment. It would be a better world if
bravery was characterized as using a new version of TB!

Anyway, yes, I have tested the latest release (3.80.06) and am happy
to report that the bug is fixed. I have also closed the BT.

I hope this works well for you too Marten.

Jon

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Re: Forwarding problem with 3.80.03

2006-05-10 Thread Jon Polish
On Wednesday, May 3, 2006, 3:29:14 PM, Marten Gallagher wrote:

>> On Sunday, April 30, 2006, 5:51:32 PM, Simon wrote:

S>>> Hi Jon,

MG> I wondered if Jon Polish has re-tried the filter business with the latest
MG> TB version now that it is reckoned to be fixed...

Yes I have. It is NOT fixed, consequently I am still using 3.72.02. I
am having problems getting TBBETA and TBUDL, hence my delays in
reporting. My account is set up to receive all messages, not digests.
Yet I go a week or more without a single message then the flood gates
open and I get a couple of hundred.

Is anyone else experiencing this?

Jon

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computer. The very first bug still exists in the National Museum of
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Re: Forwarding problem with 3.80.03

2006-05-10 Thread Jon Polish
On Wednesday, May 3, 2006, 3:29:14 PM, Marten Gallagher wrote:

>> On Sunday, April 30, 2006, 5:51:32 PM, Simon wrote:

S>>> Hi Jon,

MG> I wondered if Jon Polish has re-tried the filter business with the latest
MG> TB version now that it is reckoned to be fixed...

By the way Marten, I saw your post about what it means and actions to
be taken when a bug is reported as wait verify fixed. Because of my
problem in receiving messages as stated before, I did not get that
thread. I intended to respond to it, but I cannot. So I guess the
couple of hundred messages that come at once are incomplete.

Anyway, the answer you got was not satisfactory to me. If the reporter
is to verify the fix and close the BT, shouldn't he/she also have
access to the build in order to test it? I have seen no announcements
of such builds, so I cannot know if the bug is fixed. This is
frustrating.

Jon

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Re: Forwarding problem with 3.80.03

2006-05-02 Thread Jon Polish
On Sunday, April 30, 2006, 5:51:32 PM, Simon wrote:

S> Hi Jon,

S> In your message mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] sent
S> on Friday, April 28, 2006, 6:59:01 PM, you wrote:

JP>> I can confirm that this worked perfectly up to 3.72.02,
JP>> but in 3.72.10, 3.72.11, 3.72.12, and the release
JP>> 3.80.03 the headers are present, but the body is blank.
JP>> Has something changed, or is this a bug? If this proves
JP>> broken, I must stick with 3.72.02.

S> I have raised a Bugtrack report on this from my point of view - can you 
support?

S> https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5840

Of course - done.

I also posted a bugtrack which I believe you are monitoring.

Jon

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Forwarding problem with 3.80.03

2006-04-29 Thread Jon Polish
The new version looks really good, but I still experience the same
problem with forwarding as I have over the last several betas. Now
before I am scolded, I am reporting a problem with the release
version. ;)

I have a filter set up to do the following. When a message arrives to
Account B from a specified sender, the message is moved to the Inbox
of Account A. It is also forwarded (sent immediately) to a specific
addressee who wants to monitor all correspondences from this sender (all
parties are aware of this activity).

I can confirm that this worked perfectly up to 3.72.02, but in
3.72.10, 3.72.11, 3.72.12, and the release 3.80.03 the headers are
present, but the body is blank. Has something changed, or is this a
bug? If this proves broken, I must stick with 3.72.02.

Jon

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speculation over in Great Britain, we've got a little bit of it here,
about whether or not the—whether or not the actions were based upon
valid information. We can debate that all day long, until the truth
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Re: Forwarding with 3.72.11 and 3.72.12

2006-04-25 Thread Jon Polish
On Monday, April 24, 2006, 2:10:58 PM, Jon Polish wrote:

My apologies to the list. This should have been posted on TBBETA.

Jon


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logbook of the computer and thereafter when the machine stops
(frequently) they tell Howard Aiken that they are "debugging" the
computer. The very first bug still exists in the National Museum of
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Re: Forwarding with 3.72.11 and 3.72.12

2006-04-24 Thread Jon Polish
On Monday, April 24, 2006, 1:58:16 PM, Jon Polish wrote:

JP> I can confirm that this worked perfectly up to 3.72.02, but in 3.72.10
JP> and 3.72.11 the headers are present, but the body is blank. Has
JP> something changed, or is this a bug?

I should add that I find this flaw to be present in .10, .11, /and/ .12.

Jon
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Forwarding with 3.72.11 and 3.72.12

2006-04-24 Thread Jon Polish
I have a filter set up to do the following. When a message arrives to
Account B from a specified sender, the message is moved to the Inbox
of Account A. It is also forwarded (sent immediately) to a specific
addressee who wants to monitor all correspondences from this sender (all
parties are aware of this activity).

I can confirm that this worked perfectly up to 3.72.02, but in 3.72.10
and 3.72.11 the headers are present, but the body is blank. Has
something changed, or is this a bug?

I hope I have been clear. Thanks.

Jon

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Re: HTML Templates

2006-03-17 Thread Jon Polish
On Tuesday, March 14, 2006, 9:39:09 AM, Paul Meathrel wrote:

PM> Hi Paul,

PM> "HTML templates are under development, but this is major change
PM> and will not be available this year, probaly in first quarter 2006"

PM> Which is certainly encouraging, although we I've not seem
PM> anything in a recent Beta. Perhaps someone more in the know could enlighten 
us?

I am certainly not "in the know," but that grayed out preview button
looks like it is just waiting for something to do...

Jon

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Printing html

2006-02-23 Thread Jon Polish
I thought this was resolved earlier, but the problem seems to be back.
The font becomes extremely large when printing a html message. A
single page became seven pages upon printing.

This problem occurred before in this beta cycle and was accompanied by
poor displays of html messages.

Jon

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Test - please ignore

2006-02-10 Thread Jon Polish
Just testing.

Jon

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Preview button in QT

2005-12-30 Thread Jon Polish
I posted on tbbeta a few days ago, but got no response. Perhaps the
question belongs here.

What is the preview button in QT for? Mine are unavailable (greyed
out). Are these not enabled yet? If so, what will they do?

Jon

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Re: Weird behaviour copying and pasting filters

2005-11-22 Thread Jon Polish
On Monday, November 21, 2005, 4:13:08 PM, Marten Gallagher wrote:

MG> 3.6.24 is broken

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You mean 3.62.14, right? I tested and agree with your observation, but
that functionality does not affect me (fortunately). The show stopper
with 3.62.14 for me is its lack of speed. The re-draws are very
noticeable, there is a lag when opening messages, and closing TB after
running for some time takes FOREVER. Vili has apparently solved his
problem with speed, but compared to earlier builds, 3.62.14 is
positively pokey. The shut down speed is unacceptable - I ahve no
other program on my systems, email or otherwise, that take as long to
shut down. I can even boot up Windows XP Professional in a shorter
time.

There is a thread which speculates that the cause could be a slow hard
drive rotation speed, graphics card, insufficient processor speed,
insufficient RAM, etc. For what? The Bat does not require the latest
hardware and can be run comfortably on a Windows 98 system. Until the
latest beta series, it has been very responsive. So I agree with your
reasons for sticking with an earlier version and extend them to
include the issue of speed.

Jon

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dolphins, and they spent a lot of their time in behavioural research 
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and subtle experiments on man. The fact that once again man completely 
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Re: Weird behaviour copying and pasting filters

2005-11-21 Thread Jon Polish
Hi Marten:

I noticed that you are using 3.51.10. I am as well. May I ask why you
choose this version?

Jon
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QT bug

2005-11-18 Thread Jon Polish
1. Create a new QT

2. Click the Macros button

3. Select "Cookie from file..."

Nothing happens. This works in 3.51.10. Any confirmations?

I am posting in two places because I am really not sure where this
belongs.

Jon

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-- 

Many years ago this was a thriving, happy planet - people, cities shops, a 
normal world. Except that on the high streets of these cities there were 
slightly more shoe shops than one might have thought necessary. And slowly, 
insidiously, the numbers of these shoe shops were increasing. It's a well known 
economic phenomenon but tragic to see it in operation, for the more shoe shops 
there were, the more shoes they had to make and the worse and more unwearable 
they became. And the worse they were to wear, the more people had to buy to 
keep themselves shod, and the more the shops proliferated, until the whole 
economy of the place passed what I believe is termed the Shoe Event Horizon, 
and it became no longer economically possible to build anything other than shoe 
shops. Result - collapse, ruin and famine. Most of the population died out. 
Those few who had the right kind of genetic instability mutated into birds - 
you've seen one of them - who cursed their feet, cursed the ground, and vowed 
that none should walk on it again. Unhappy lot. Come, I must take you to the 
Vortex. - The Restaurant at the End of the Universe



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Re: Do not play sound

2005-09-14 Thread Jon Polish
On Wednesday, September 14, 2005, 9:10:41 AM, Chris wrote:


C> The latest release version is 3.60.07...

   You are correct. I went to 3.51.10 because of problems with
   cursor placement when using a forwarding template. Instead of
   being positioned where it is supposed to be, it ends up at the
   bottom of the page. Others have reported this behavior when
   replying.

   Jon

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here." Source: PR Newswire, "Remarks by the President at the Economic Forum 
Health Care Security Session," Aug. 13, 2002 



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Re: Do not play sound

2005-09-14 Thread Jon Polish
On Tuesday, September 13, 2005, 6:55:35 PM, Chris wrote:


C> If that was the case, it seems to be fixed. I have two accounts with
C> different sounds. When I get a message in either the sound is played.
C> If, during the same mail check, both accounts receive a message, both
C> sounds will be played.

C> Perhaps the behavior you describe has been fixed.

  Not here. I'm using the latest release and have used the
  betas with the same results. The sound for account "A"
  overrides separate sounds set up for account "B" and so on.

  Thanks for your response.

  Jon

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"We're going to have a White House forum there in Washington, D.C., 
obviously—that's where the White House is ..." Source: FDCH Political 
Transcripts, "George W. Bush Participates in Pledge Across America," Sept. 17, 
2002 



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Re: Do not play sound

2005-09-13 Thread Jon Polish
On Tuesday, September 13, 2005, 1:38:56 PM, Chris wrote:


C> Nope. That still plays the account default sound. Sounds like a wish
C> to me...

  Hi Chris:

  Actually, I think there is something wrong with the sounds. In v2.x
  you could set separate sounds for different accounts. I have not
  been able to do so from 3.x on. The sound that is triggered for
  incoming mail on account "A" is the same sound that is heard for
  incoming mail on account "B." I don't know if is related to your
  problem, but it sure "sounds" like it is.

  If memory serves, this has been reported under BT.

  Jon

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Re: Problem of cursor in template....

2005-09-12 Thread Jon Polish
On Sunday, September 11, 2005, 6:23:14 PM, Roelof Otten wrote:

RO> Hallo Wil,

RO> Now you've lost me.
RO> In mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] you're complaining that the
RO> cursor gets placed under the quotes, but should get placed above them.
RO> But you're posting a template that should place the cursor under the
RO> quotes and say that the cursor gets placed before them.
RO> When I use your template, the cursor gets placed under the quotes, as
RO> the template ordains.

I experience something similar when forwarding a message using html.
The cursor appears at the bottom of the message instead of the
intended location which is at the top. It works correctly when I use
text (MicroEd) Here is my template (and thanks for your help):

%CURSOR
___

This is a forwarded message
From: %OFromName <%OFromAddr>
To: %OToList
Date: %ODateEn, %OTimeLongEn
Subject: %OSubj

___Original message text___

%Text

End of original message text___


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"Without sacrifice there is no success: without pain there is no pleasure: and 
without something, there is no nothing." 



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Re: Removing attachments embedded in message

2005-07-08 Thread Jon Polish
On Friday, July 8, 2005, 8:29:47 AM, Vili wrote:

V> If  you  are  lazy  :),  then  just  move the mails to an other folder
V> outside  of  the  account,  Set  the  account to store the attachments
V> separately, and move them back to their original place :)

V> (no need for export, import)


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Thanks Vili! this is exactly what I was hoping for.

Jon


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-- 

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military commanders report that this violence is being insticated by three 
groups."  —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., April 13, 2004



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Re: Strip attachments

2005-07-07 Thread Jon Polish
On Friday, July 1, 2005, 4:46:49 PM, Chris wrote:


C> It can be done manually by selecting the attachment and pressing the
C> delete key. Or, if you don't have the attachment pane showing, click
C> on the Attachment button, go down to Delete, and select the attachment
C> you wish to delete.

Thanks for the reply Chris. I guess I didn't explain very clearly. See
my newer post. I am interested in deleting all attachments from a
rather large message base.

Jon

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Removing attachments embedded in message

2005-07-07 Thread Jon Polish
Hi:

I have all my attachments stored within the message bodies. My message
base is becoming really large and I would like to retain the text
portion of the messages for archival purposes. Is there a way to
remove attachments by using The Bat? I would rather not use an
additional program such as Mailbag Assistant if I can manage this with
The Bat.

Thanks in advance.

Jon

Using The Bat! v3.5.36 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1

-- 

"I once spent a year in Philadelphia, I think it was on a Sunday." - W. C. 
Fields 



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Strip attachments

2005-07-01 Thread Jon Polish
Hi:

I have all attachments encoded with the email (saved within the body
of the message). I would like to archive the text portions of my
messages in a database, so I need to:

1. Strip all attachments from the messages and

2. export them into individual msg files to be imported to my
database.

Is there any way The Bat can strip attachments encoded within existing
messages?

Thanks.

Jon

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"The recession started upon my arrival. It could have been — some say February, 
some say March, some speculate maybe earlier it started — but nevertheless, it 
happened as we showed up here. The attacks on our country affected our economy. 
Corporate scandals affected the confidence of people and therefore affected the 
economy. My decision on Iraq, this kind of march to war, affected the economy." 
—George W. Bush, Meet the Press, Feb. 8, 2004



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Re: Low Quality Address Book Icons

2005-05-19 Thread Jon Polish
On Thursday, May 19, 2005, 2:02:06 PM, Michael Mlinaric wrote:

MM> Hello Chris,

>> What graphics card do you have? It seems as if it may be a graphics
>> card issue. All those who have reported it thus far have been using
>> ATI cards, if I remember correctly.

MM> It's definitely not a graphics card problem. I've tested four
MM> different machines. All of them have different graphics cards and
MM> drivers. The icon problem exists on any of theses PCs. For me it seems
MM> to be more related to W2K SP4.




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I agree that it is not a graphics card problem. I am using the
minimalist icon set with no degradation in the address book. I too
have tested this on three machines (Windows 98, XP Professional, XP
Home) all yielding identical results.

Jon

Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1

-- 

"I'm honored to shake the hand of a brave Iraqi citizen who had his hand cut 
off by Saddam Hussein." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., May 25, 2004



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Re: Sounds on mial retrieval

2005-05-19 Thread Jon Polish
On Thursday, May 19, 2005, 9:55:04 AM, Natasha V Pearce wrote:

NVP> Hi Jon

JP>> in  3.5. When mail arrives, all the sounds are the same as the one set in 
my
JP>> first  account. If I turn off the sounds in my first account, all sounds 
for
JP>> arriving  mail  do  not trigger even though they are set up correctly in 
the
JP>> other accounts.

NVP> Can't  confirm  here.  Have different sounds for each account (setup via 
Account
NVP> Properties),  some  sounds  associated  with  specific folders (setup via 
Folder
NVP> Properties)   in   some  accounts  and  yet  more  sounds  for  some  
individual
NVP> users/subject contents (setup via Sorting Office filters. All working fine.

NVP> Could it be that you've inadvertently restricted the times at which sounds 
can
NVP> be played?



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Hi Natasha and thanks:

No, everything seems to be as it should. I only have sounds setup for
my individual accounts, and not for folders within those accounts. The
odd thing is that if I switch between versions 3.0.1.33 and 3.5 on the
same computer, it works on one perfectly, but not the other (3.5).

Jon

Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1

-- 

"Then let us enjoy this triumph while we can - before the hounds of catastrophe 
break free of their shackles, and slobber chaos all over our faces - once 
again."



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Templates

2005-05-19 Thread Jon Polish
I've noticed a slight difference in the way my templates are handled
in v3.5. All appears well in MicroEd. However, if I use html or Windows
editors, inserting any template with a %cursor macro places a garbage
character where the cursor is supposed to be and the cursor appears at
the end of the inserted template. This forces me to reposition the
cursor to the garbage character and delete it. The cursor is then
properly placed. In v3.0.1.33 this anomoly was present in the html
editor only - the MicroEd and Windows editors worked as expected.

Can anyone confirm or should I do something different?

Using The Bat! v3.5 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1

-- 

"I speak plainly sometimes, but you've got to be mindful of the consequences of 
the words. So put that down. I don't know if you'd call that a confession, a 
regret, something." — George W. Bush, speaking to reporters, Washington, D.C., 
Jan. 14, 2005



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Sounds on mial retrieval

2005-05-19 Thread Jon Polish
I am using v3.5 (but not right now). In 3.0.1.33 I have different sounds set up 
to indicate the arrival of mail in my accounts. This does not appear to work 
correctly in 3.5. When mail arrives, all the sounds are the same as the one set 
in my first account. If I turn off the sounds in my first account, all sounds 
for arriving mail do not trigger even though they are set up correctly in the 
other accounts. Again, this works fine in 3.0.1.33.

Can someone confirm, or should I do something different?

Thank you.

Jion

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-- 

"After standing on the stage, after the debates, I made it very plain, we will 
not have an all-volunteer army. And yet, this week— we will have an 
all-volunteer army. Let me restate that." — Bush, showing signs of confusion 
(yet again) at an Oct. 16, 2004, campaign stop in Daytona Beach.



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Re: The Bat crashed and now the folder with my mail folder is not accessable

2005-04-08 Thread Jon Polish
On Friday, April 8, 2005, 1:25:15 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

zzc> The Bat version 2.x

zzc> My PC is running WinXP-Home; one hard drive (80GB) with multiple
zzc> partitions.

zzc> My email client (The Bat!) crashed. When I reboot, I cannot access my L:
zzc> drive (the mail directory).

zzc> Partition Magic 8.01's PartitionInfo report no error on L: drive -- "No
zzc> partition errors detected".  However, Partition Magic itself shows some
zzc> funy statistics:  The name of the partition is "?(L)"; size is
zzc> 4,996.7MB; Used 1,968,6009.3MB; Unused 128,542.7MB.  Obviously, the
zzc> "Used" statistic is wrong.

zzc> Windows Explorer reports that the L: drive is not formatted. However,
zzc> PartitionInfo shows it is a FAT32 partition.

zzc> When I run Norton Disk Doctor from the CD, it says it is "Unable to
zzc> access drive L:.  The volume does not contain a recognized file
zzc> system".

zzc> I have also tried the PC Inspector's File Recovery 4.0.  The scanning
zzc> reports "Bad parameter in boot sector. Root directory cluster
(536879106) >> count of clusters!"

zzc> Is there any way I can fix the problem and get back into my L: drive?

zzc> I vaguely remember that there is a DOS command(?) that would fix the
zzc> boot sector -- something with a switch of MBR  Would that help?

zzc> TIA

zzc> 
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zzc> something with a switch of MBR
I think you are referring to fdisk/mbr

Jon

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-- 

"Just remember it's the birds that's supposed to suffer, not the hunter." 
—George W. Bush, advising quail hunter and New Mexico Sen. Pete Domenici, 
Roswell, N.M., Jan. 22, 2004



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