Re: How to reset Mail Dispatcher Columns?
Saturday, March 10, 2007, 7:04:24 PM, Roelof and Alexander wrote: >> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat!\Mail Dispatcher wonderful! thanks to you both - all is now working fine (I had searched the registry for "bat" but failed to notice that the "match whole string only" was checked) Tim -- Tim Using The Bat! v3.98.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.98.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
How to reset Mail Dispatcher Columns?
Hi everyone, it has been a long time since I have read or posted here - the Bat! has been just working :) I have however now managed to lose all of the columns in the mail-dispatcher window. I think I was trying to "resize to content" by double-clicking on the separater in the header-line. I suspect that I have managed to set them all to widths larger than the combined width of my two monitors, and cannot find any way to reach them to drag them back :( Does anyone have a suggestion of how I might reset them? Tim -- Tim Using The Bat! v3.98.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.98.04 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Virtual Folders
Saturday, July 24, 2004, 6:16:28 PM, Alexander S. Kunz wrote: re baysian sorting... > So far, I've tried simulating that functionality by combining TheBat with > PopFile (a Bayes filter that can handle multiple buckets and not only keep > ham and spam apart, http://popfile.sourceforge.net). If you limit yourself > to a reasonable number of buckets (so that the learning won't take forever) > you can set up virtual folders that filter by the X-Text-Classification > header that PopFile adds to the messages. > However, wrong classifications by PopFile (which naturally do happen in the > beginning) lead to the mails being shown in the wrong virtual folder. You > can reclassify them in PopFile, but the mail is already imported into TB's > messagebase by then. Problematic when you subscribe to a new mailinglist, > sign up for another newsletters - in short: whenever the classification > needs to be enhanced/adapted (false positives are guaranteed during the > first couple of mails). > Because of that, I currently filter to common folders and maybe switch to > virtual folders, later (when PopFile has received more training). I use a two stage process - I have Popfile classify mail, and then have a Bat! input-filter set a corresponding colour-group from the X-Text-Classification header. I then have my virtual folders set up based on the colour-groups. When a message is mis-classified, I can then double click on the X-Popfile-Link header (which I display in the header panel) to tell Popfile, and also right-click in the message-list-pane to change the colour-group, this is then picked up by the virtual folders. Tim -- Tim Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Unfinished message sent without permission
Thursday, July 22, 2004, 10:41:03 PM, Mica Mijatovic wrote: > How could I prevent such behaviour, since sometimes I just make a test > messages with totally silly text... for the off-line use, and if *such* > a message is sent somewhere... the people could *sue* me! If I know I want to be working on a message for a while, and want to make sure it won't be sent, I add an extra recipient of "nobody" or "DONT_SEND_YET" or some such string which is not a valid address and not in an address book. That stops The Bat! from sending it. (A less useful side-effect... if you are running The Bat as a client with a Bat running elsewhere as a server, the client does not see a message when you try to send it, but if you try to send it from the server then you do see a message - this had me puzzled for a while when my wife miscut-and-pasted an address on one of her emails) Tim -- Tim Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Cannot shut down (yes/no/abort has no effect)
Friday, July 16, 2004, 10:09:21 PM, Michael L. Wilson wrote: > I am running the latest release. When I click the x in the corner, I > am presented with a YES NO ABORT box asking me if I want to wait until > something finishes. Well, nothing is downloading or uploading, in my case it was accounts with no pop3-server specified that were waiting for ever for a reply from the non-existent server. > so I hit abort, so far as I can tell this does nothing :( > and the box disappears and the bat still > remains. I need a clean exit, please. the cleanest I have found, which is distinctly grubby, is to kill the program with task manager. -- Tim Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Checking Mail on POP3 accounts with no server set never finishes on v2.12.00
I think I have found why I started needing to kill The Bat! with the task-manager at version 2.12.00. I have couple of accounts with no POP3 servers set (They are ones I run for two of my children, email gets filtered to them from my main account, but if I reply from them they go out with a son's name in the from) Prior to this version, if you did a check-mail on one of the accounts, it appeared briefly in the connection centre, but then returned, with no messages found. At 2.12.00 they appear in the connection centre, and never finish. the only way I can interrupt them is to use the task manager to kill the process. To work round it, I went to each of the accounts, disabled the "check mailbox at startup" and "check periodically", and enabled the "exclude from check all accounts" options. The ideal behaviour might be a warning box, but the new behaviour is certainly uphelpful. Tim -- Tim Using The Bat! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: hot key for "mark as junk"- PLEASE
Tuesday, July 13, 2004, 6:10:18 AM, Ben Allen wrote: > Howdy Gary, > Tuesday, July 13, 2004, 3:23:54 AM, Gary wrotened: Gary>> Should have a button though, or some preset key. I used Gary>> ctrl+j, which was park. I never use park, but thats just me. Gary>> Who doesn't use mark as junk at least 5 times a day? > Er.. me me too. I use popfile, and have the X-POPFile-Link displayed in grey header-bar of the preview-pane (is that the right name), and click through that URL when I want to reclassify something. Tim -- Tim :Tim_Sharrock: Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Unread folder
Sunday, June 27, 2004, 5:51:38 PM, Paul Cartwright wrote:
> On Sunday, June 27, 2004, 11:24 AM, you wrote:
TS>> I have dome similar (with several new colour-groups for
TS>> things like reference-bat, reference-boardgames etc)
> well, I am red-green color blind, so I don't both with
> colors much :)
It is not necessary to have them use different colours
('though I do use red for todo, or maybe green would be
better, with more of a "go" ethos). I have about six or
seven colour-groups named, but they are really just named
statuses that can be applied to messages, and can easily be
filtered on. All my reference- colour-groups are
displayed with the same colour, but they show up in
different virtual folders.
Using them this way, does have the limitation that each
message can only have one colour-group, but that is
livable-with (especially since the folder the message lives
in gives one orthogonal way of looking at things.
Tim
--
Tim
:Tim_Sharrock:
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Re: Unread folder
Sunday, June 27, 2004, 3:22:40 PM, Paul Cartwright wrote: M>> I also created a Virtual Folder for 'Flagged to Respond' which M>> collects any messages I flag which need a response (I want to 'be M>> sure' I can see those messages easily as I have a tendency to lose M>> track, but now the problem is that I forget to flag the messages! :) ) > oh, I think I just found two wonderful folders!!! I used to just flag > them as unread and keep them that way, but I like your method better!!! I have dome similar (with several new colour-groups for things like reference-bat, reference-boardgames etc) My one related wish is to be be able to right-click within the preview pane to set the colour-group (I can do it from the message-list, but not the message itself) The other, perennial, problem is adding things to the todo list, but never doing them... Tim -- Tim :Tim_Sharrock: Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Virus warning upon execution of mail download
Sunday, June 13, 2004, 11:56:53 AM, Thomas Fernandez wrote: > On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 09:41:02 +0200 GMT Tony wrote: T>> [...] All people with good intentions. But sometimes a T>> virus pops up. The sender just forwarded an infected T>> mail to the list. I know it's a 'that happens once in a T>> lifetime' example. [...] > If their system is immune, they won't catch a virus and won't spread > it. If it is the duty of every internet user to stop spreading virus, > outlaw OE/OL and you have the main problem fixed. Why are we > discussing this here, by the way? I think Tony is referring to the case where a user manually forwards an email to a list, not realising that it carries a virus payload. This can be done just as well with The Bat! as with OE/OL. Of course the user must take responsibility for their action, and not forward something without understanding the implications, but in this case The Bat! will not stop you forwarding the mail, though it might stop you getting automatically infected. Tim -- Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can someone tell me what this means?
Tuesday, June 8, 2004, 5:36:34 PM, Jack wrote: TJS>> I could try [sending Jack's email] with me as From, TJS>> and you (Jack) as reply to, or even create a TJS>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] specially for the purpose... TJS>> Shall I do that? > I would certainly appreciate it. done TJS>> The alternative is to try and track down why the rDNS connect back TJS>> is failing > It's a pretty sad situation to have to jump through all of these hoops > to get, what to me is, a relatively simple problem solved. It might still be wise to investigate the rDNS, as you might find that other systems also reject your emaail Tim -- Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Can someone tell me what this means?
Tuesday, June 8, 2004, 1:34:52 PM, Jack wrote: > Hello Jack, MDP>> ... the reverse DNS for your domain specified a mail exchange MDP>> computer called ohmx-2.columbus.rr.com. When the RITlabs mail MDP>> exchanger attempted to connect back to it to verify its existence, MDP>> it failed. As a result, your message was rejected. This is a MDP>> standard method of protecting against MDP>> connections from spamming MDP>> servers, which characteristically fail the rDNS connect back. > I thought as much but since the same reply was received for two > different people I thought I might be interpreting it incorrectly. So > can you, or anyone, tell me what I should do now? I apparently have no > way to contact RITlabs (which is a very bad situation in itself) and I > can't get an answer on this list. Is there somewhere else I can ask > about my problem? Though when I sent it on for you, I did have the From and Reply-To set your your address. I thought that that would be good enough, with all the Received: headers etc having my details, rather than yours. I could try again with me as From, and you (Jack) as reply to, or even create a [EMAIL PROTECTED] specially for the purpose... Shall I do that? The alternative is to try and track down why the rDNS connect back is failing Tim -- Using The Bat! v2.11.02 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Support from RitLabs
Thursday, June 3, 2004, 6:05:06 PM, Jack wrote: > Hello, > Does anyone know of a valid email address for RitLabs that I can use > to get a question answered? Their web site says to use > [EMAIL PROTECTED] or the Help->Feedback->Information Request option > in the menu. I've tried them both but the messages come back as > non-deliverable. I got a reply from [EMAIL PROTECTED] (after a reminder) Tim -- Using The Bat! v2.11 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Rebate for a second license?
Thursday, June 3, 2004, 3:30:10 AM, Adam wrote: > There are the different licenses listed at Cifnet. But, > they don't detail differences. Can you explain what > differences there are? Or is it somehow a shareware > standard that is always understood, to say what types of > users a license accommodates? I did not manage to find definitions... I emailed Ritlabs with a question about which licence(s) my wife needed for her situation, and after a reminder I got a brief reply (in her case - working for a University, and running one instance as server, and one as client, but only one user, she needed one personal license) Tim -- Using The Bat! v2.11 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.11.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Reply Address - How To Insert From Template Using HTML
Tuesday, May 25, 2004, 10:12:20 PM, Leif Gregory wrote: > Type the below, but you'll need to put the < in front of the first > HTML. I took it out otherwise it might convert my message to HTML and > you couldn't see it without viewing source. I think you have mis-matched quotes, which, when I tried it, caused the link not to appear - tweaked below (and the quote characters removed. You still need a < before the HTML> HTML> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">Click here -- Using The Bat! v2.10.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
License conditions for private use?
Can anyone point me at a Ritlabs web-page with a definition of "commercial use" as opposed to "private use", or even "one user at a time"? I have a private license, as I use The Bat solely on my home computer - I am required to use Outlook on my work computer :(. I have introduced my wife to The Bat, and now we need to register it for her. She does want to use it for her work, but she is a University Professor, which is not exactly commercial, but not private either, she is not a student, and the Educational Institutional license has a minimum of twenty seats order. A further complication is that she runs it with a server working on her desktop box, and a client running on her laptop elsewhere in the house. Would this breach the "You are granted a non-exclusive licence to use the program on one computer at a time." sentence in license.txt? In one sense she is running it on two computers at once... but she is only typing into one at a time? I will send a version of this to [EMAIL PROTECTED], but I thought I would ask the assembled experts here, as we have let her reach the final day of her trial period, and cannot afford to wait! Thanks Tim -- Using The Bat! v2.10.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Tracking down a problem.
Monday, May 17, 2004, 6:43:53 AM, Leif Gregory wrote: > Hello Peter, > Sunday, May 16, 2004, 10:31:24 AM, you wrote: Peter>> I didn't receive even one. I feel left out. ;-) > Have you still not received it? I still have a few in the queue due to > various 500 errors. I'll check back through the SMTP server logs to > see why you might have gotten missed. I don't think I have received any - possible reasons include: * I am in the changing from one forwarding service to another * the target of the redirect (@sharrock.demon.co.uk) runs a spam filtering service Tim -- Using The Bat! v2.10.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.10.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sorting sub-folders alphabetically?
Tuesday, April 20, 2004, 11:30:07 PM, Chris wrote: > Tim Sharrock >> ideally she would like to be able to create a new >> sub-folder and have it appear magically in the right >> alphabetical place in the list. >> Is there a way to do this? > I don't know if there is a way to do this automatically, > but if she were to click on the name column, and then > click OK in the dialog box, the folders would be sorted > alphabetically. Great - I never thought to try clicking those headers - I did not expect a tree-view like thing to have them! (and this time I will be careful not to lose the ' ' after the sig-separator... Thanks Tim -- Using The Bat! v2.10.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Sorting sub-folders alphabetically?
I am just introducing my wife to The Bat! - generally successfully... One wish she has is to keep sub-folders in alphabetical order. I know how to reorder them by drag and drop, or by keyboard shortcuts to move them one at a time, but ideally she would like to be able to create a new sub-folder and have it appear magically in the right alphabetical place in the list. Is there a way to do this? -- thanks, Tim Using The Bat! v2.10.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: I kinda like my Bat :)
Thursday, January 22, 2004, 1:42:24 PM, you wrote: > It is the feature of flagging a message. Once a > message is flagged, it pops up in a "Follow Up" folder so > you can always go to that folder and follow up on the > messages. Once the flag is cleared, it disappears from > the "Follow Up" folder but remains in its native folder. > Quite useful for tracking to-do's. > Twould be a nice feature to incorporate into TB! indeed - I would find that very useful. I had hoped to be able to use the scheduler for that kind of "do it later" message, but have not yet found a way of doing it. Tim -- Using The Bat! v2.02 CE on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
