Re[2]: working on a pgp merit badge...
Hello Mark, On 17 October 2003, at 11:38:41 (GMT -0700) you wrote: MW> it's possible to fake a PGP-signing? If I can't trust an MW> authorization after PGP has verified it, what good is it? As I know, to crack a PGP-sign (and as an cipher-text) it is almost impossible. I would say if your program successfully authorized the PGP-sign then you may trust on 98% that this is true sign. Remaining 2% is if "your" sign will be cracked by some very skilled cryptoanalyzer :) -- Best regards, Vasiliymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 2.01 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Encrypt when completed - NO any reaction
Hello TBUDL, I use PGP of version 8.0.2. And when I check menu option "Encrypt when completed" in the editor of my TB! then no reaction while I try to send mail in the Outbox. If I additionally check menu option "Sign when completed" then all OK - mail encrypted/signed and send to Outbox. Why it's not possible only encrypt message without signing? -- Best regards, Vasiliy mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 2.01 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: PGP Key page, check please
Hello John, On 17 October 2003, at 23:48:52 (GMT -0500) you wrote: JM>Any way if anyone wants to try it and let me know if they have any JM>problems, I'd appreciate it. I exported your public key from the server without any problems. Your key are good (valid) for verify your sign and encrypt messages for you. So, you wanted that to know? I hope I right understand what you meant. -- Best regards, Vasiliymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Encrypt when completed - NO any reaction
Hello Allie, On 17 October 2003, at 21:04:50 (GMT -0500) you wrote: VE>> Why it's not possible only encrypt message without signing? AM> Just tried it and it works here. Sorry that I can't duplicate the AM> problem. :/ You means it is working on your computer *only* to encrypt message without signing? 8( As I see you use TheBat! 2.01 as like me. And what version of PGP you use? Also 8.0.2? I little confused because I don't see anything way of solution for this problem. But I don't cry and have some idea :) I observed that text-part of source of your e-mail aren't encoded by Base64 as like my source (see source of my (this) letter). So I suppose that it is a cause of my problem. What are you think? And how you do that your text-part are not encrypt by Base64? -- Best regards, Vasiliymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Encrypt when completed - NO any reaction
Hello Peter, On 18 October 2003, at 15:50:46 (GMT +0200) you wrote: PM> This bug formerly affected Win98. It was fixed, but now it seems to PM> affect XP... See bug report: PM> https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=0001512 Thank for link, I saw. But some people says that on their computers it's all OK. So, in what the cause? -- Best regards, Vasiliymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 2.01 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Подтверждение доставки писем
Hello BAT! Talk Users, С этим вопросом я обращался к своему провайдера. Привожу текст письма: VE> Имею к вам вопрос следующего содержания. Почему больше не работает VE> подтверждение доставки писем? Раньше без проблем в своей почтовой VE> программе (TheBat!) устанавливал флаг "Подтверждение доставки" и мне VE> приходило уведомление, что письмо было доставлено на ящик VE> получателя. А вот примерно неделю назад такая возможность перестала VE> работать. То есть я, как и раньше, устанавливаю флаг "Подтверждение VE> доставки", а никакого уведомления не приходит :( (хотя фактически VE> адресаты получают мои письма). Если я не ошибаюсь, то, как правило, VE> именно SMTP-сервер провайдера (в моём случае KievWeb) формирует VE> подобные отчёты (подтверждения). На что мне прислали такой ответ: > Дело в том, что в почт.клиенте TheBat! (текущих версий) реализован > устаревший механизм Return Receipt Requested, который исключен из > состава современных SMTP MTA. Недавно нами обновлено ПО SMTP сервера, > по этому функция подтверждения доставки писем в программе TheBat! > перестала работать. Будем надеятся, что разработчики TheBat! в будущих > версиях своей программы релизуют подтверждение доставки на основе > более современных технологий. Но и на этом я не успокоился и написал опять такое: VE> Спасибо за ответ! VE> Но сопутствующий вопрос. Вы имели в виду флаг "Return-Receipt-To:" в VE> заголовке письма? Это ведь он отвечает за подтверждение о доставке. VE> А какой он должен быть по новым "меркам" (на основе новых VE> технологий)? И мне ответили так: > Поле Return-Receipt-To: в заголовке RFC-822 всего лишь позволяет Вам > при создании ответа на данное письмо не вводить адрес получателя > вручную. И дело вобщем-то не в нем. В TheBat! используется так > называемый Return Receipt Requested, устаревший метод. Более новые - > это: Delivery Status Notifications (DSNs) и Message Delivery > Notifications (MDNs), в TheBat! пока не реализованные. Но и на этом моя душа не успокоилась я отправил нижеследующее письмо, на которое ответ уже не получил (достал наверное). Под цитатой [AS] ответ провайдера, [VE] - мои реплики: AS> Поле Return-Receipt-To: в заголовке RFC-822 всего лишь позволяет Вам AS> при создании ответа на данное письмо не вводить адрес получателя AS> вручную. VE> Простите, я не специалист, но всё же мне кажется, что это не так. VE> Во-первых поле "Return-Receipt-To:" добавляется TheBat!'ом только VE> если установить флаг "Подтверждение о доставке". Только что VE> проверял: в письмах без установленного этого флага поле VE> "Return-Receipt-To:" отсутствует! Во-вторых, "Return receipt" VE> переводится как "Квитанция о получении". VE> Может, вы спутали с "Reply-To:"? VE> Ещё раз прошу прощения, не подумайте, что я учу вас, просто хотелось VE> бы разобраться в проблеме. AS> И дело вобщем-то не в нем. В TheBat! используется так называемый AS> Return Receipt Requested, устаревший метод. VE> Что-то я это поле в упор не вижу :( VE> Кстати, у меня версия 1.62, у вас 1.53. Может, они по разному это VE> делают? У меня вопрос к спецам такой, прав ли мой провайдер, в самом ли деле Бат использует устаревший метод подтверждения доставки из-за чего сервера с новыми "модными" методами игнорируют старый метод??? Этот вопрос меня волнует, потому буду благодарен всем за путёвый ответ! -- Best regards, Vasiliy mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 2.01 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Replace "To:" by value from Address Book
Hello TBTECH Users, How can I replace by macros the field "To:" by value from Address Book during replying? For example, I received some mail from my friend Yuriy Batjkovich whose name are presents in Address Book. But he wrote mail from "Yura <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>", so during replying TheBat puts into "To:" field the "Yura <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" string. But I want that if sender are presents in the Address Book then in the field "To:" TheBat puts the name exactly from this Address Book. So, in presented case I want put in "To:" the exactly "Yuriy Batjkovich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" string and not TheBat's default variant. This problem I very simple solved in TheBat! 1.62 version by adding in the end of replying template the following string: %IF:"%AbTOEmail"<>"":"TO='' %TO='%AbTOName <%OFROMADDR>'":"" But, unfortunately, in TheBat! since 2.x versions this macro-string didn't work :( Thus what I can do for solve this task in version 2.x? -- Best regards, Vasiliy mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 2.01 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Подтверждение доставки писем
Hello Peter, On 19 October 2003, at 15:40:04 (GMT +0200) you wrote: VE>> С этим вопросом я обращался к своему провайдера. Привожу текст письма: PM> Folder template? ;-) Giggle... Sorry, I sent my mail in wrong address :) My mail meens for Russian conference. This is because my templates for new letters have error. Sorry again. -- Best regards, Vasiliymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 2.01 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: Подтверждение доставки писем
Hello Robert, On 19 October 2003, at 20:03:23 (GMT +0300) you wrote: RG> We you able to get any answer from them yet? Sorry, I can't understand that you meant. Якщо я правильно зрозумів, то ми земляки? Ви зі Львова, я з Києва. Але якщо ми тут будемо спілкуватися своєю рідною мовою, то інші будуть ругатися :) -- Best regards, Vasiliymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 2.01 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Replace "To:" by value from Address Book
Hello All, On 19 October 2003, at 17:27:42 (GMT +0300) you wrote: Please don't waste your time for answering on this topic, because I already took the solution :) -- Best regards, Vasiliymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 2.01 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: PGP Advice
Hello Plusnet, On 19 October 2003, at 14:49:47 (GMT +0100) you wrote: P> Hello TBUDL, I'm a new TB user could someone explain what exactly P> PGP is. I'm trying to figure out wether or not i would be better off P> using it. Thankyou For more information (and details) you may visit www.pgpi.org where you find more info about PGP (first I advise you to read FAQ and Documentation on this site, then you may brows link for other sites devoted to PGP). -- Best regards, Vasiliymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 2.01 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Version 2 Observation
Hello Barry, On 18 October 2003, at 17:26:19 (GMT +0100) you wrote: BH> Have I wasted my money? :>(( 99,9% *NO*. The developers say that users have 30 experiences days for trying and using of program and then they (users) buy this program they clearly conceives what they buying. -- Best regards, Vasiliymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 2.01 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TheBat! on a blacklist?
Hello ETM,
On 19 October 2003, at 18:16:56 (GMT -0400) you wrote:
E> TheBat! is blacklisted by more and more servers.
And what reason of this blocking? As about me I never notice such
problem, all my mails was successfully delivered. If problems were then
that was from my provider (or provider of recipient), SMTP server or
other but only *not* from TheBat! ("X-Mailer" header value).
--
Best regards,
Vasiliymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Using The Bat! v2.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600
Current version is 2.01 | "Using TBUDL" information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Making a PGP signed message
Hello Edgar, On 19 October 2003, at 21:15:40 (GMT +0200) you wrote: E> Most people use OE. When I use the openPGP and sign messages E> (including nomime) TB! makes a message that is signed but as mime E> mail (if I'm correct). This can not be checked in OE. Outlook Express don't support PGP/MIME format. E> When I use the sign complete message it goes trough the E> clipboards and OE can check it. Because your sign add to your plain-text and not to separate part in the letter (mail) as in the PGP/MIME case. E> Can I automate this signing of the message? What exactly you have in view? -- Best regards, Vasiliymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 2.01 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Replace "To:" by value from Address Book
Hello Roelof, On 19 October 2003, at 23:19:04 (GMT +0200) you wrote: RO> Apart from the missing '%' before the first 'TO' I can't find anything RO> why it shouldn't work. No, in my template '%' are presents. That's I just accidentally deleted '%' during pasting the string from clipboard into letter. And cause of the problem was in another thing. About it read reply of Marck D Pearlstone. But in any way thank you for participation! ;) -- Best regards, Vasiliymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 2.01 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Best Version of PGP
Hello Plusnet, On 20 October 2003, at 01:05:45 (GMT +0100) you wrote: P> What is the best version of PGP to download and install. The all version of PGP are best ;) But better to use the latest version. As I know at present day the latest version is 8.0.2. I use this version and I'm satisfied. -- Best regards, Vasiliymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: your signed emails
Hello Jurgen, On 20 October 2003, at 08:55:56 (GMT +0200) you wrote: JH> Does that mean that one can only verify your message in TB and the JH> likes, and not in Outlook? Outlook don't do it because it don't support PGP/MIME. Only users of TB can encrypt/decrypt/sign in/from PGP/MIME format. JH> Or it doesn't matter? Until Outlook Express will not support PGP/MIME it will not to do it. -- Best regards, Vasiliymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Best Version of PGP
Hello Melissa, On 19 October 2003, at 17:30:58 (GMT -0700) you wrote: MR> Actually, the latest free version is 8.0.2. You can get it at the PGP MR> Corporation site: A few days ago somewhere (don't remember where) I saw some letter signed by PGP which have string like following: -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 9.0b1 Do you know something about PGP version 9? -- Best regards, Vasiliymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: your signed emails
Hello Jurgen, On 20 October 2003, at 10:55:59 (GMT +0200) you wrote: JH> last message all right (as I now can see), but I asked me for the JH> password I used to make the key. I will see (when I send this JH> message here) if it will do that all the time. That would be a pain. JH> ARGH, it DOES ask again. Is that the norm, or did I set some option JH> wrong? You may set a more long period for caching of your pass-phrase. See option dialog of PGP, where you may set "Cache passphrase while logged on". -- Best regards, Vasiliymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: Best Version of PGP
Hello DG, On 20 October 2003, at 07:27:54 (GMT -0400) you wrote: DRS> 'Twas myself sir and actually it is PGP 6.5.8ckt build... DRS> ...what you want displayed for the PGP version within your PGP sig. I understand. I was deceived :) -- Best regards, Vasiliymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[6]: Best Version of PGP
Hello DG, On 20 October 2003, at 08:13:50 (GMT -0400) you wrote: DRS> Not my intent Vasiliy. Oh, no, I don't resent and don't blame you! Just I thought that already exists PGP 9 :) -- Best regards, Vasiliymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 2.01 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: your signed emails
Hello Jurgen, On 20 October 2003, at 16:24:47 (GMT +0200) you wrote: JH> you mean I have to do that outside of TB, in the settings for the PG? Yes, I meant external PGP. JH> I am using GnuPG and can't find anything in the settings via GPGshell... Oops. I was mistaken. Sorry, I can't nothing suggest to you in this case. -- Best regards, Vasiliymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using: * The Bat! v2.01 * Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 * PGP 8.0.2 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Account glyph change?
Hello Pixie, On 21 October 2003, at 17:47:32 (GMT -0400) you wrote: P> Did the mailbox pictures get replaced or is this some bug? I thinking developers decided on this new glyph. -- Best regards, Vasiliymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using: * The Bat! 2.01.3 * Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 * PGP 8.0.2 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01.3 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Account glyph change?
Hello Pixie, On 22 October 2003, at 23:55:15 (GMT -0400) you wrote: P> Hmm.. Confusing as I didn't see anything in the change-log about P> this specifically. I guess developers tried to make a surprise for our . But black '@' is associates for me like some mournful :( P> Do you know was that something that changed with 2.01 or new for .3? Uuuh... I already don't remember. -- Best regards, Vasiliymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using: * The Bat! 2.01.3 * Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 * PGP 8.0.2 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01.3 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: PGP - Checking Signature
Hello Michael, On 22 October 2003, at 21:19:34 (GMT -0400) you wrote: MR> I'd like to see if my key is working correctly. Can someone verify the signature? I successfully donwload your public key from PGP server and verified you signature fine. So, be happy :) -- Best regards, Vasiliymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using: * The Bat! 2.01.3 * Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 * PGP 8.0.2 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01.3 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: PGP - Checking Signature
Hello molescroft, On 23 October 2003, at 12:01:44 (GMT +0100) you wrote: m> So can my signature be checked too, pretty please? I successfully downloaded key and verified your signature too. Your public key are named on Eric J Thompson. Is it correct? -- Best regards, Vasiliymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using: * The Bat! 2.01.3 * Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 * PGP 8.0.2 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01.3 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: PGP - Checking Signature
Hello All, Today I added into my key my photo and uploaded this all on PGP keys server. So, I would to ask respected audience for checking and verifying of my public key and to sign it (of course if that do not burden you). I'll be very happy to be trustworthy by you! :) -- Best regards, Vasiliymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using: * The Bat! 2.01.3 * Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 * PGP 8.0.2 Winamp playing now: Pink - Family Portrait - - 2003 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01.3 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: PGP - Checking Signature
Hello Gerard, On 23 October 2003, at 19:53:32 (GMT +0200) you wrote: G> I even signed your key. Thank you very much! But one more. You didn't upload your signature on server, so I can't take your signature. -- Best regards, Vasiliymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using: * The Bat! 2.01.7 * Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 * PGP 8.0.2 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01.3 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: PGP - Checking Signature
Hello Gerard, On 23 October 2003, at 19:36:17 (GMT +0200) you wrote: G> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- G> Hash: SHA1 Why I can't verify your signed message? PGP shows error that is bad signature. -- Best regards, Vasiliymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using: * The Bat! 2.01.7 * Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 * PGP 8.0.2 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01.3 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: PGP - Checking Signature
Hello Gerard, On 24 October 2003, at 19:37:30 (GMT +0200) you wrote: VE>> Thank you very much! But one more. You didn't upload your signature on VE>> server, so I can't take your signature. G> I checked both servers ,certserver.pgp.com / pgpkeys.mit.edu and I am on G> both. G> Any I don▌t know about? No. I meant other. In your previous letter you said that you signed my public key. This is good, but you didn't upload _my_ _key_ _with_ _your_ _signature_ on server (by this operation you update my key on the server), so I can't take your signature for my key. -- Best regards, Vasiliymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using: * The Bat! 2.01.7 * Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 * PGP 8.0.3 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01.3 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: PGP - Checking Signature
Hello Gerard, On 24 October 2003, at 23:59:54 (GMT +0200) you wrote: G>I tried to upgrade to version 8 but can´t get it done, so I G>re-instaled an older version. It might have something to do with all G>the switching back and forth and getting all the settings right G>again. How is this? Now your signature verified successfully. However I advise you to download latest version of PGP 8.0.3 on www.pgp.com. IMHO this version very fine work with TheBat! and no problems. Also you may use MIME sign - looking more fine than noMIME sign. -- Best regards, Vasiliymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using: * The Bat! 2.01.7 * Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 * PGP 8.0.3 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01.3 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: PGP - Checking Signature
Hello Melissa, On 24 October 2003, at 15:15:20 (GMT -0700) you wrote: MR> Unlessyou know Gerard personally, and have exchanged MR> key/fingerprints via other channels (like talking on the MR> phone...assuming that you recognize each other's voices), I would MR> recommend *not* signing each other keys and uploading them to the MR> keyservers ... [skip] MR> ... Such exportable signatures are basically worthless, and actually MR> weaken the "web of trust". Thank you for information. I will take into consideration your proposal in the future. I also should apologize that few days ago I signed your key and loaded it on the PGP server. -- Best regards, Vasiliymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using: * The Bat! 2.01.7 * Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 * PGP 8.0.3 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01.3 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Message Flag Icon
Hello Michael, On 26 October 2003, at 13:56:29 -0500 you wrote: MR> I also noticed that some messages have a green strip on the left of MR> the message flag. Anyone know what that's for? This means that message was replied. -- Best regards, Vasiliymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using: * The Bat! 2.01.7 * Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 * PGP 8.0.3 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01.3 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: PGP - Checking Signature
Hello Gerard, On 25 October 2003, at 22:58:49 (GMT +0200) you wrote: G> Do you know where there is a good forum or FAQ for version 8? I now a good FAQ at http://www.McCune.cc/PGP.htm. Also you may read included in PGP 8 distributing Manuals and Users Guide (Are very popular wrote). -- Best regards, Vasiliymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using: * The Bat! 2.01.7 * Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 * PGP 8.0.3 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01.3 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: PGP - Checking Signature
Hello Gerard, On 25 October 2003, at 23:06:18 (GMT +0200) you wrote: G>I did however already sign Vasiliy▌s key. I signed and upload to server your key to :) (or :( ) However, I want say the following. If you (and all list's members) trust to this letter I may say that I'm a *real* Vasiliy Efimenko from Kyiv (Ukraine) who typing this words! My key fingerprint are: 03AE 5805 08CA E77C 4ADF E071 3D28 2597 DBF6 0F4A So, don't make from me a bandit and hooligan, I'm a good man :) (I hope). -- Best regards, Vasiliymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using: * The Bat! 2.01.7 * Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 * PGP 8.0.3 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01.3 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: PGP - Checking Signature
Hello Kevin, On 26 October 2003, at 09:00:50 (GMT -0500) you wrote: KC> To display the kludges press either Ctrl-Shift-K or F9 while viewing KC> this message. The url after the "X-Request-PGP:" line How did you added the extra headers such as "X-Request-PGP" and "X-OpenPGP-Key-Fprint" in your mail? Do you use TheBat!'s means or some third software? -- Best regards, Vasiliymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using: * The Bat! 2.01.7 * Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 * PGP 8.0.3 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01.3 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: PGP - Checking Signature
Hello Melissa, On 26 October 2003, at 11:28:12 -0800 you wrote: MR> Don't worry Vasiliy, I believe you. Thank you for trusting! ;) MR> I just haven't signed your key yet. :-) OK, no problems. Only as you wish. -- Best regards, Vasiliymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using: * The Bat! 2.01.7 * Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 * PGP 8.0.3 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01.3 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: "Some serious security holes in 'The Bat!'"
Hello SyP, On 26 October 2003, at 20:47:23 +0100 you wrote: S> I'd like if someone dissected these claims... S> http://lists.netsys.com/pipermail/full-disclosure/2003-October/012716.html It is known that The Bat! are not much securely and its passwords and other confidential information may be easily hacked by some utilities such as PasswordRecovery (I don't remember exact utility name). But it is exists way of solution of this problem is store TB! mail and accompanying configuration files at the encrypted disk (e.g. PGPdisk, BestCrypt). -- Best regards, Vasiliymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using: * The Bat! 2.01.7 * Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 * PGP 8.0.3 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01.3 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: PGP - Checking Signature
Hello Gerard, On 27 October 2003, at 08:57:01 +0100 you wrote: G> Therefore thank you for signing my key. Not it all. It is pleasantly me to help someone. And thank you too for signing my key! I updated my local keyring by your sign. G> So, just for good measure here is my fingerprint: G> DABE 4AE5 4DB5 4193 4C97 BFCD 57D5 39FA 6B39 8F19 Yes, it's all correct! :) -- Best regards, Vasiliymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using: * The Bat! 2.01.7 * Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 * PGP 8.0.3 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01.3 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: "Some serious security holes in 'The Bat!'"
Hello Jurgen, On 27 October 2003, at 10:25:40 +0100 you wrote: JH> isn't SecureBat! the Paranoia's choice of email program? I'm not sure that I correct understand what you means but try to ask on this. I think that some people has their some reasons to prevents some information from "strange eyes". And choosing of SB! as email program is not a paranoia. As about me. I don't use encrypted disk(s) for storage TB!'s mails and others information because it is not necessary now and I know that nobody don't able to access into my computer (at home). But I believe that at office are very useful utilities for restricting of access to computer. -- Best regards, Vasiliymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using: * The Bat! 2.01.7 * Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 * PGP 8.0.3 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01.3 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 8-bit characters
Hello net5zero, On 30 October 2003, at 04:19 -0500 you wrote: nnn> 1. What are 8-bit characters? Is a none Latin alphabet characters. For example, 8 bit characters are Cyrillic letters: а, б, в, г, д, е, ё, ж (I don't sure that you are able to see this letters properly). nnn> 2. What is the difference between "without changes" and nnn> "quote-printable"? If set "without changes" then in body of your mail 7-bit symbols and 8-bit symbols will be unchanged. Example: --- This is 7-bit symbols. Это 8-bit символы. --- And if you set "quote-printable" then 7-bit symbols will be unchanged and 8-bit symbols will be converted as in follow example: --- This is 7-bit symbols. =DD=F2=EE 8-bit =F1=E8=EC=E2=EE=EB=FB. --- Also you can set "64 bit encoding" and then either 7-bit and 8-bit symbols will be changed in the follow form: --- VGhpcyBpcyA3LWJpdCBzeW1ib2xzLg0K3fLuIDgtYml0IPHo7OLu6/suDQo= --- I hope you understood me :) -- Best regards, Vasiliymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using: * The Bat! 2.01.15 * Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 * PGP 8.0.3 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01.3 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: bring mole recipe
Hello DZ-Jay, On 30 October 2003, at 15:18 -0500 you wrote: DJ> dZ. Hmm... And what are you means? I don't understand. -- Best regards, Vasiliymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using: * The Bat! 2.01.15 * Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 * PGP 8.0.3 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01.3 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: 8-bit characters
Hello net5zero, On 31 October 2003, at 00:23 -0500 you wrote: nnn> If I get a message is Japanese, can I view it in TB 1.62? If so, what nnn> do I need to do? Sorry, about Japanese I don't know. -- Best regards, Vasiliymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using: * The Bat! 2.01.15 * Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 * PGP 8.0.3 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01.3 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Connection Centre
Hello Allie, On 1 November 2003, at 08:06 -0500 you wrote: Did you changed your public key? I uploaded your key a month ago, but now when I try to verify your signature the connection PGP's key-server dialog is appears. Or are you not real Allie Martin? :) -- Best regards, Vasiliymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using: * The Bat! 2.01.20 * Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 * PGP 8.0.3 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01.3 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Connection Centre
Hello Allie, On 2 November 2003, at 08:24 -0500 you wrote: AM> Yes, I did change my public key. If you update my old one, you'll see AM> that it's now revoked. Yes, I updated it and saw that your old key was revoked. AM> I just created a new key. The new key was signed with the old one AM> to prove that the new key was created by the owner of the old one. I just uploaded your new key and it's all OK. Also your key was signed by Mark D. Pearlstone. Good luck and have a good day! -- Best regards, Vasiliymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using: * The Bat! 2.01.20 * Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 * PGP 8.0.3 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01.3 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
"-- " after PGP verification
Hello TBUDL Users, I noticed some bug in TB!'s implementation of PGP 8. When I turn on "Sign when Completed" and turn off PGP/MIME then after signing the "-- " (dash dash space) converted into "- --" (dash space dash dash). I know that is a *normal* effect of PGP signing and I don't have any claims to that, but... But after verification the "- --" converted into "--" (dash dash) *without* space (0x20). So, all words after "--" not interpreted as a letter's signing. I decided that is the exactly TB's PGP implementation bug because I tried same operations but by PGP Current Window menu "Sign". And in this variant the "-- " transformed into the "- --" and after verification again transformed into the "-- " (*with* space). So, what are you thinking about it? -- Best regards, Vasiliy mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using: * The Bat! 2.01.20 * Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 * PGP 8.0.3 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01.3 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: "-- " after PGP verification
Hello Marck, On 3 November 2003, at 13:41 + you wrote: MDP> I agree, but this should probably be talked about in TBBETA and a MDP> bug report filed on the BT. That way, there's a greater chance of a MDP> correction being made. OK, I forward my topic into TBBETA. -- Best regards, Vasiliymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using: * The Bat! 2.01.20 * Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 * PGP 8.0.3 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01.3 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Anyone using Glyphs here?
Hello Marek, On 5 November 2003, at 10:12 +0100 you wrote: MM> you can download them from my czech page www.thebat.cz/ikony.htm I downloaded from your site the Igor Afanasyev's glyphs. Very nice and pretty images. Thank you for link. -- Best regards, Vasiliymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using: * The Bat! 2.01.26 * Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 * PGP 8.0.3 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01.3 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Bat Alternatives
Hello Simon, On 6 November 2003, at 10:26 + you wrote: S> Just set the wrap to 76 characters (or lower). All clients should S> support this. There won't be incorrect wrapping at that line length. You know, before I set WW to 76 characters. But once I saw my received mail by recipient upon his Yahoo Web-Mailer and I was wondered because my mail was deformed like following: = Privet, Tanja. Byl rad (opjat') poluchit' ot tebja pis'mo. To chto ty ne srazu otvetila, kak ja, ehto ne ochen' strashno. Konechno, ja proverjal pochtu na protjazhenii vsego dnja cherez kazhdye 0,5-1 chasa v nadezhde, no vsjo zhe mogu ponjat', chto ehto u menja poka est' vozmozhnost' tak delat', a u kogo-to takoj vozmozhnosti mozhet i ne byt'. Verno govorju, Fedja? Vot vidish', kakoj ja ponimajushchij i chuvstvennyj molodoj chelovek :) = Something like that. I don't know why, but I guess the cause in Word Wraping so I decided to change my WW to 70. -- Best regards, Vasiliymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using: * The Bat! 2.01.26 * Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 * PGP 8.0.3 Winamp playing now: Rammstein - Ich Will - Mutter - 2001 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01.3 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Bat Alternatives
Hello Simon, On 6 November 2003, at 14:27 + you wrote: S> Yes, I've seen that as well. I guess it happens when yahoo headers are S> applied to the messages...but I really don't know. It shouldn't S> though, as 76 characters is 2 characters below the recommendation in S> RFC822. So, I guess this is a Yahoo peccadillo :) S> That's why I stopped using PGP wrap setting and just let TB! do it. I also set off PGP wrapping and set on TB! wrapping as 70. Thus I hope that most of my recipients should do not have broken mails. -- Best regards, Vasiliymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using: * The Bat! 2.01.26 * Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 * PGP 8.0.3 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01.3 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: PGP: tab in E-mail
Hello Kevin, On 6 November 2003, at 15:05 -0500 you wrote: KC> I don't think it cycles the servers and only uses the first one. KC> Somebody correct me if this is wrong. AFAIK and as I observe, if signature verifying by TB! then it is NOT cycle. But if signature verifying by PGP (from PGP tray icon) then cycle are works. -- Best regards, Vasiliymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using: * The Bat! 2.01.26 * Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 * PGP 8.0.3 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01.3 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: PGP 8.0.3 Advice
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Barry, On 7 November 2003, at 09:59 + you wrote: B> Hello TBUDL, B> I'm a PGP beginner and would like some advice please. Here's my B> questions. Actually this this a list for discussing of TheBat! questions, problems, ideas and son on. I can propose you to subscribe to list was devoted to PGP: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - -- Best regards, Vasiliymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using: * The Bat! 2.01.26 * Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 * PGP 8.0.3 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.3 iQA/AwUBP6t3kz0oJZfb9g9KEQJjsACg62uv4fOCFkgKoTKNHnHTOMVB3SQAn2w8 v/tSIJI2+Z4iU+l9YqwL5vZ+ =PS+k -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.01.3 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Base64 problem solved
Hello Kitty, On 12 November 2003, at 10:45 -0600 you wrote: K> I had posted at some length about my frustrations with version 2 K> because messages I was writing on one of my accounts to several K> mailing lists were being sent in Base64. [...] K> The good news is that my problem is solved and I can now post without K> incident. So, now when you solved your problem with TB! do you still want to migrate to other alternative Mail Client? K> On another note, a comment about other mail programs. I looked at K> many alternatives actually installing and trying Becky, Pegagus, K> Thunderbird, Pocomail and Eudora. The only one that tempted me at all K> was Pocomail. [...] K> However, I really do like the Pocomail interface and some features. Please, may you give me a link for Pocomail home page and download? You are interested me in this program :) It's curious for me to look through the Pocomail. Thanks in advance! -- Best regards, Vasiliymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using: * The Bat! 2.01.26 * Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 * PGP 8.0.3 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01.3 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: I'm a bit perplexed here re: grouping and reading a set of messages ... only those messages within the group ...
Hello Bo, On 12 November 2003, at 12:23 -0500 you wrote: BD> I've used the path View > View threads by > Subject to group the BD> messages. Is(are) there some other option(s) I should be setting to BD> accomplish what I want to do? For rather results you should set View - View threads by - References. -- Best regards, Vasiliymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using: * The Bat! 2.01.26 * Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 * PGP 8.0.3 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.01.3 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Pocomail (was Base64 problem solved)
Hello Kitty, On 12 November 2003, at 17:23 -0600 you wrote: K> www.pocomail.com Thanks! K> What I liked (these are matters of personal taste): I read your preview (comparison) of Pocomail and The Bat!, it was interested to see some "+" and "-" between this two clients. Also I downloaded Pocomail and looked it through. Of course, very nice and modern interface but... but after bit of using a said myself "The Bat! are better!". IMHO. But in any way, thank you for comments and given link! -- Best regards, Vasiliymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using: * The Bat! 2.01.26 * Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 * PGP 8.0.3 Current version is 2.01.3 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
