Re: Confirm Receipt, Reading Confirmation
am Freitag, 3. Oktober 2008 um 03:15 schrieb Dwight Corrin: I must have missed that one. I shouldn't have to read them all to find it, you could have supplied the mid. All Settings are switched to send immediately and prompt before action to send a Reading Confirmation. It actually happens (at me) that the Confirmations are not sent, they are queued in the Out box and can only be send manually (not by ALT-F2). It looks like, the Reading Confirmations are not generated (at the first sight). Thats the Problem which i have and some others, but not all. In my Case, i still use Windows 2000 Sp4, which causes more and more Problems with other (Beta) Applications. But The Bat! claims to support Windows 2000. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.0.34.13 AntiSpamSniper 3.0.1.2 Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Confirm Receipt, Reading Confirmation
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Re: Confirm Receipt, Reading Confirmation
IMPORTANT ONE-TIME MESSAGE! BELANGRIJK EENMALIG BERICHT! Dear Jens, See English message below. --- U ontvangt dit bericht omdat dit de eerste keer is dat u ons een bericht stuurt sinds wij ons nieuwe mailinglijstsysteem hebben geïnstalleerd. Als u op de hoogte wilt blijven over belangrijke ontwikkelingen op ons bureau (zoals adreswijzigingen en vakanties), raden wij u ten zeerste aan om u te abonneren op onze mailinglijst. Wij schatten dat er per jaar slechts 1-2 berichten zullen worden verzonden. Als u zich *NIET* wilt abonneren, hoeft u niets te doen. Bedenk echter wel dat u niets van ons zult horen als wij ooit ons telefoonnummer wijzigen of de zaak onverwacht (tijdelijk) moeten sluiten. Als u zich *WEL* wilt abonneren, klikt u op deze link: http://www.akebono.nl/lists/?p=subscribeid=1 Hartelijk dank voor uw aandacht! --- You receive this message because this is the first time you sent us a message since we installed our new mailing list system. If you'd like to stay up-to-date about important developments at our agency (like address changes and holidays), we strongly recommend you to subcribe to our mailing list. We estimate that only 1-2 messages per year will be send. If you *DO NOT* want to subscribe, there's nothing you need to do. Please note though that if we ever change our telephone number or are closed due to unforeseen circumstances, you will never find out. If you *DO* want to subscribe, please click this link: http://www.akebono.nl/lists/?p=subscribeid=1 Thank you for your attention! Best regards, Loek van Kooten = Please subscribe to our newsletter for important information about our agency (holidays, address changes...) Sent 1-2 times a year and contains important information only. That is no spam, advertisements or promotions: http://www.akebono.nl/lists/?p=subscribeid=1 Abonneer u op onze nieuwsbrief voor belangrijke informatie over ons bureau (vakanties, adreswijzigingen...) Wordt 1-2 keer per jaar verzonden en bevat uitsluitend belangrijke informatie. Dat wil zeggen geen spam, advertenties of aanbiedingen: http://www.akebono.nl/lists/?p=subscribeid=1 -- Akebono Translation Service Rijnstraat 32 2311 NK Leiden The Netherlands Tel: +31-87-8763636 Fax: +31-84-7390618 www.akebono.nl Algemene voorwaarden: www.akebono.nl/algemeen.doc Terms and conditions: www.akebono.nl/terms.doc Chamber of Commerce reg. no.: 28066372 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Confirm Receipt, Reading Confirmation
IMPORTANT ONE-TIME MESSAGE! BELANGRIJK EENMALIG BERICHT! Dear Tim, See English message below. --- U ontvangt dit bericht omdat dit de eerste keer is dat u ons een bericht stuurt sinds wij ons nieuwe mailinglijstsysteem hebben geïnstalleerd. Als u op de hoogte wilt blijven over belangrijke ontwikkelingen op ons bureau (zoals adreswijzigingen en vakanties), raden wij u ten zeerste aan om u te abonneren op onze mailinglijst. Wij schatten dat er per jaar slechts 1-2 berichten zullen worden verzonden. Als u zich *NIET* wilt abonneren, hoeft u niets te doen. Bedenk echter wel dat u niets van ons zult horen als wij ooit ons telefoonnummer wijzigen of de zaak onverwacht (tijdelijk) moeten sluiten. Als u zich *WEL* wilt abonneren, klikt u op deze link: http://www.akebono.nl/lists/?p=subscribeid=1 Hartelijk dank voor uw aandacht! --- You receive this message because this is the first time you sent us a message since we installed our new mailing list system. If you'd like to stay up-to-date about important developments at our agency (like address changes and holidays), we strongly recommend you to subcribe to our mailing list. We estimate that only 1-2 messages per year will be send. If you *DO NOT* want to subscribe, there's nothing you need to do. Please note though that if we ever change our telephone number or are closed due to unforeseen circumstances, you will never find out. If you *DO* want to subscribe, please click this link: http://www.akebono.nl/lists/?p=subscribeid=1 Thank you for your attention! Best regards, Loek van Kooten = Please subscribe to our newsletter for important information about our agency (holidays, address changes...) Sent 1-2 times a year and contains important information only. That is no spam, advertisements or promotions: http://www.akebono.nl/lists/?p=subscribeid=1 Abonneer u op onze nieuwsbrief voor belangrijke informatie over ons bureau (vakanties, adreswijzigingen...) Wordt 1-2 keer per jaar verzonden en bevat uitsluitend belangrijke informatie. Dat wil zeggen geen spam, advertenties of aanbiedingen: http://www.akebono.nl/lists/?p=subscribeid=1 -- Akebono Translation Service Rijnstraat 32 2311 NK Leiden The Netherlands Tel: +31-87-8763636 Fax: +31-84-7390618 www.akebono.nl Algemene voorwaarden: www.akebono.nl/algemeen.doc Terms and conditions: www.akebono.nl/terms.doc Chamber of Commerce reg. no.: 28066372 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Confirm Receipt, Reading Confirmation
Hallo Loek, On Thu, 2 Oct 2008 13:14:48 +0200GMT (2-10-2008, 13:14 +0200, where I live), you wrote: LVK IMPORTANT ONE-TIME MESSAGE! LVK BELANGRIJK EENMALIG BERICHT! I'm afraid you've misconfigured something, you're sending this as reply to every message on tbudl. -- Groetjes, Roelof (A)bort (R)etry (I)nfluence with a large hammer http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 4.0.34.12 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 3 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgpeP3GSNFjDo.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Confirm Receipt, Reading Confirmation
am Donnerstag, 2. Oktober 2008 um 05:37 schrieb Dwight Corrin: So maybe this needs to be clarified. What is the situation that prompted this thread? I think noone with complaints wants us to know. I asked several times, and still am in the dark. Read my Mail(s) i did explain it once, which is enough as i think. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.0.34.13 AntiSpamSniper 3.0.1.2 Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Confirm Receipt, Reading Confirmation
On Thursday, October 2, 2008, 3:30:13 PM, Jens Franik wrote: Read my Mail(s) i did explain it once, which is enough as i think. I must have missed that one. I shouldn't have to read them all to find it, you could have supplied the mid. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.0.34.13 on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 1) Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Confirm Receipt, Reading Confirmation
Hello Thomas, Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 7:11:32 PM, you wrote: TF Hello Jack, TF On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 10:20:27 -0500 GMT (30/09/2008, 22:20 +0700 GMT), TF Jack S. LaRosa wrote: JSL Thanks Thomas. I recently had occasion to wonder if a recipient at JSL least received an email, but not concerned with whether they had read JSL it. I'll try and set up TB! to request receipt confirmations from now JSL on. TF Use with care. It is annoying if I get a pop-up for each message from TF a certain customer. It would be better to use it only when necessary, TF for example when sending a reminder. Well, I was thinking in terms of a receipt confirmation rather than a read confirmation. Yesterday I was able to configure TB! to request a receive confirmation and in fact did get one from a message I had sent. The confirmation text was as follows: Your message was successfully delivered to its final destination. This is a notification of that fact, as you requested. Please reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you feel this message to be in error. I should point out for the benefit of others on this list that although I sent more than one email yesterday, I received a receipt confirmation from only one recipient's server. Coincidentally(?) he and I use the same server. My interest in this is mostly a curiosity of TB!'s myriad abilities as I no longer have a need for confirmations of any sort. -- Best regards, Jackmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using TB! v3.99.3 with K9-v1.28 anti spam Windows XP pro 5.1 Build 2600 - Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [RECOVERED] Re: Confirm Receipt, Reading Confirmation
Hello Ian, Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 10:33:24 PM, you wrote: G'day Tim, - On Sunday, September 28, 2008, 10:00:38 AM, you (Tim Hamm) wrote: TH Hello TBUDL, TH My confirm receipt and reading confirmation is useless. It has TH never worked. Are there any fixes for this. My Outlook works TH like a champ but not so with TB. I have been (trying) to follow this thread, but nothing seems to be clear. From my point of view, I have sent over a dozen e-mails since this was reported where I have requested a reading receipt and I have received a reading receipt from the recipients. During this time I have also received around 6 messages where the sender has requested a reading receipt. I have my system prompt me, and I have it set to send one immediately rather than queue them in the Outbox. All reading receipts that I have allowed have gone through fine. Nothing has been left in the Outbox. So maybe this needs to be clarified. What is the situation that prompted this thread? Is The Bat! requesting a reading receipt and one is not being received? If this is the case, then it has nothing to do with The Bat! and everything to do with the receiving system or recipient. They receiving system may be blocking such requests (I have a relative working for the Defence Department and the request for a reading receipt is stripped off incoming messages), or the recipient might have their system set to ignore such requests or is not sending them on an individual basis. In either case there is nothing that The Bat! can do. Is The Bat! not sending reading receipts? If this is the case then the settings to respond to such a request have to be set correctly. The Bat! has to be set to automatically send a receipt without asking, or it has to be set to ask and then it must be allowed on an individual basis. Is The Bat! queuing them in the the Outbox? If this is the case then reading receipts need to be set to send them immediately. Is there something else that is going wrong? I can appreciate what you are saying, from what I know on my end, these features have never worked as long as I have had TB. I would think by now of the thousands of emails I have sent, at least one recipient's email client should be able to send read receipts. -- Best regards, Tim Hammmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [RECOVERED] Re: Confirm Receipt, Reading Confirmation
Hello Tim, I can appreciate what you are saying, from what I know on my end, these features have never worked as long as I have had TB. I would think by now of the thousands of emails I have sent, at least one recipient's email client should be able to send read receipts How many of your thousands of sent messages did include a Request for Reading Confirmation (i.e. an X-Confirm-Reading-To: header)? Because even a properly configured email client will not send back a Reading Confirmation if the message being read does not include such a request. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.34.13 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: [RECOVERED] Re: Confirm Receipt, Reading Confirmation
On Wed, 2008-10-01, Tim Hamm wrote: I can appreciate what you are saying, from what I know on my end, these features have never worked as long as I have had TB. I would think by now of the thousands of emails I have sent, at least one recipient's email client should be able to send read receipts. Tim, One possibility not to be overlooked, your ISP. When Delivery Status Notifications (as Confirm Receipts are officially known) are requested, each mail server on the path to the recipient's mail server is supposed to notice that the previous server (or your client) has requested a DSN be sent and pass that on to the next mail server. If that next mail server does not allow DSNs the current server is supposed to send back instead a DSN to effect that no final DSN will be sent. Notice that any mail server along the way dropping the ball will cause no DSN to be sent at all. The fact that no Confirm Receipts of yours have ever been honored makes me suspect a mail server near the beginning of the chain--at your ISP. Since DSNs and MDNs (Message Disposition Notices (Reading Receipts from the recipent's client)) are both a standardized specially formatted message, it is possible that your ISP is doing you the favor of deleting these as some sort of spam. Note that this is not necessarily the actual explanation, but it is something to consider if no other explanation turns out to be better. Good luck, -- Bill McQuillan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 2.11 on Windows XP 5.1 build 2600-Service Pack 2 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Confirm Receipt, Reading Confirmation
On Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 12:33:24 AM, Ian A. White wrote: So maybe this needs to be clarified. What is the situation that prompted this thread? I think noone with complaints wants us to know. I asked several times, and still am in the dark. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.0.34.13 on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 1) Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Confirm Receipt, Reading Confirmation
Hello Thomas, Monday, September 29, 2008, 11:43:42 PM, you wrote: TF Hello Jack, TF On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 16:27:41 -0500 GMT (30/09/2008, 04:27 +0700 GMT), TF Jack S. LaRosa wrote: TH My confirm receipt and reading confirmation is useless. It has never TH worked. Are there any fixes for this. My Outlook works like a champ TH but not so with TB. JSL For what it's worth, I submit #20 contained herein: JSL http://www.emailreplies.com/#9capitals TF These receipt/read confirmations make sense in business, if an agent TF or supplier is not answering their mails. I request the confirmations TF in the reminder. Once I get the reply from their server or client, I TF know that the message was at least received and he has no excuse if he TF didn't actually read it. If I get no confirmation back, I call or fax TF and ask whether my mail is stuck in their spam folder. I've never used receipt/read confirmations so I'm un-familiar with their operation. However, I've always assumed that they required some action on the part of the recipient. But your reply seems to indicate that there's some receipt (but not read) confirmation which is carried out automatically by the server or the mail client itself, invisible to the recipient. Am I misinterpreting what you wrote? -- Best regards, Jackmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using TB! v3.99.3 from Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 - Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Confirm Receipt, Reading Confirmation
Hello Jack, On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 09:10:54 -0500 GMT (30/09/2008, 21:10 +0700 GMT), Jack S. LaRosa wrote: JSL I've never used receipt/read confirmations so I'm un-familiar with JSL their operation. However, I've always assumed that they required some JSL action on the part of the recipient. But your reply seems to indicate JSL that there's some receipt (but not read) confirmation which is carried JSL out automatically by the server or the mail client itself, invisible JSL to the recipient. Am I misinterpreting what you wrote? No, you got it right. These are two different confirmations: 1. The receipt confirmation requests the server to confirm receipt of the message. This can be turned on or off by the sysad and is out of control of the recipient. 2. The read confirmation is sent by the recipient's email client, and the recipient can set his email client to send, not send, or request action by the recipient. -- Cheers, Thomas. Next Sunday a special collection will be taken to defray the cost of the new carpet. All those wishing to do something on the new carpet will come forward and do so. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.28.4 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Confirm Receipt, Reading Confirmation
Hello Thomas, Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 9:27:25 AM, you wrote: TF Hello Jack, TF On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 09:10:54 -0500 GMT (30/09/2008, 21:10 +0700 GMT), TF Jack S. LaRosa wrote: JSL I've never used receipt/read confirmations so I'm un-familiar with JSL their operation. However, I've always assumed that they required some JSL action on the part of the recipient. But your reply seems to indicate JSL that there's some receipt (but not read) confirmation which is carried JSL out automatically by the server or the mail client itself, invisible JSL to the recipient. Am I misinterpreting what you wrote? TF No, you got it right. These are two different confirmations: TF 1. The receipt confirmation requests the server to confirm receipt of TF the message. This can be turned on or off by the sysad and is out of TF control of the recipient. TF 2. The read confirmation is sent by the recipient's email client, and TF the recipient can set his email client to send, not send, or request TF action by the recipient. I love this list. Thanks Thomas. I recently had occasion to wonder if a recipient at least received an email, but not concerned with whether they had read it. I'll try and set up TB! to request receipt confirmations from now on. -- Best regards, Jackmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using TB! v3.99.3 from Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 - Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Confirm Receipt, Reading Confirmation
On Tue, 30 Sep 2008, at 21:27:25 [GMT +0700] (which was 16:27 where I live) Thomas Fernandez wrote: 1. The receipt confirmation requests the server to confirm receipt of the message. This can be turned on or off by the sysad and is out of control of the recipient. Hi Thomas, If I use this option in what way will I see this confirmation of receiving the message? TIA -- cheers, Henk __ The Bat! Natural Email System version 4.0.34.13 on Windows XP SP3 AntispamSniper for the Bat! 3.0.0.9 CSAPI Hunspell spellchecker English Dutch Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail! pgpsvgwhOxsKs.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Confirm Receipt, Reading Confirmation
am Dienstag, 30. September 2008 um 16:10 schrieb Jack S. LaRosa: But your reply seems to indicate that there's some receipt (but not read) confirmation which is carried out automatically by the server or the mail client itself, invisible to the recipient. Most Servers - in the Meantime - do not or no longer provide this Feature. I always request both Confirmations, but i rarely get a Reading Confirmation - nearly no time i get the Delivery Confirmation. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.0.34.13 AntiSpamSniper 3.0.0.9 Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Confirm Receipt, Reading Confirmation
Hello Henk, On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 18:56:17 +0200 GMT (30/09/2008, 23:56 +0700 GMT), Henk M. de Bruijn wrote: 1. The receipt confirmation requests the server to confirm receipt of the message. This can be turned on or off by the sysad and is out of control of the recipient. HMdB If I use this option in what way will I see this confirmation of HMdB receiving the message? You will receive an email from the server. The text of the email is up to the sysad, but the server software also offers a default text. Example: A message which requested delivery confirmation recently arrived at this server. Note: This Return Receipt only acknowledges that the message was received by the server. There is no guarantee that the content has been read or understood. Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: IP rejected? Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 16:59:14 +0700 Message Recipient: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This was for a message I sent to our sysad's hotmail address with a cc copy to his company address. The receipt confirmation came from the company's server, using his email address @example.co.th as sender. Hotmail's server did not acknowlege receipt. -- Cheers, Thomas. In an office: WOULD THE PERSON WHO TOOK THE STEP LADDER YESTERDAY PLEASE BRING IT BACK OR FURTHER STEPS WILL BE TAKEN. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.28.4 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Confirm Receipt, Reading Confirmation
Hello Jack, On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 10:20:27 -0500 GMT (30/09/2008, 22:20 +0700 GMT), Jack S. LaRosa wrote: JSL Thanks Thomas. I recently had occasion to wonder if a recipient at JSL least received an email, but not concerned with whether they had read JSL it. I'll try and set up TB! to request receipt confirmations from now JSL on. Use with care. It is annoying if I get a pop-up for each message from a certain customer. It would be better to use it only when necessary, for example when sending a reminder. -- Cheers, Thomas. Man: Is this seat empty? Woman: Yes, and this one will be if you sit down. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.28.4 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Confirm Receipt, Reading Confirmation
On Wed, 1 Oct 2008, at 07:09:36 [GMT +0700] (which was 2:09 where I live) Thomas Fernandez wrote: You will receive an email from the server. The text of the email is up to the sysad, but the server software also offers a default text. Thanks Thomas, it is crystal clear now :-) -- cheers, Henk __ The Bat! Natural Email System version 4.0.34.13 on Windows XP SP3 AntispamSniper for the Bat! 3.0.1.2 CSAPI Hunspell spellchecker English Dutch Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail! pgp1z7qAymI4V.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Confirm Receipt, Reading Confirmation
Hi On Sunday 28 September 2008 at 2:52:19 AM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Michael Kreyling wrote: Hello MFPA, Saturday, September 27, 2008, 9:21:57 PM, Michael Kreyling wrote this message after talking to me on the radio: M Hi M On Sunday 28 September 2008 at 1:14:22 AM, in M mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], M Michael Kreyling wrote: It won't send reading confirmations for me either.I'm using The Bat! Pro 4.0.34.11 with OTFE enabled on Windows XP Pro SP3.Everything else works good.It won't send them with or without OTFE enabled.I hope they can fix it. M TB! sends reading receipts if I want it to. Have you M set the options correctly under Account properties M templates reading confirmation? M I am not using OTFE, in case that makes a difference. I have it set to send immediately and prompt before the action. I have it set to put in outbox and prompt before the action. If I say yes, the confirmation appears in my outbox. The next time I send/receive mail the confirmation is sent. -- Best regards, MFPA Life is far too important a thing ever to talk seriously about Using The Bat! v4.0.34 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Confirm Receipt, Reading Confirmation
Hi On Sunday 28 September 2008 at 2:55:21 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Michael Kreyling wrote: I just have the default templates and don't have any other templates set up. You realise sending the the default templated receipt to a message where you were included as a cc or bcc gives the impression in the message body that the To addressee has received it. -- Best regards, MFPA When you're through changing, you're through Using The Bat! v4.0.34 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Confirm Receipt, Reading Confirmation
am Montag, 29. September 2008 um 18:17 schrieb MFPA: I have it set to put in outbox and prompt before the action. If I say yes, the confirmation appears in my outbox. The next time I send/receive mail the confirmation is sent. I confirm to generate the Reading-Confirmation. It is beeing generated and put in the Outbox. It is not sent, when i do several ALT-F2 to Send/Receive All Only when i go on Outbox and say Send queued Mail it is sent. My Options say send all imediately send reading confirmation imediately and prompt before action. It does not work, it does not work - at least for me. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.0.34.12 AntiSpamSniper 3.0.0.9 Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Confirm Receipt, Reading Confirmation
Hello Tim, Saturday, September 27, 2008, 7:00:38 PM, you wrote: TH Hello TBUDL, TH My confirm receipt and reading confirmation is useless. It has never TH worked. Are there any fixes for this. My Outlook works like a champ TH but not so with TB. For what it's worth, I submit #20 contained herein: http://www.emailreplies.com/#9capitals -- Best regards, Jackmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using TB! v3.99.3 from Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 - Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Confirm Receipt, Reading Confirmation
Hello Jack, On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 16:27:41 -0500 GMT (30/09/2008, 04:27 +0700 GMT), Jack S. LaRosa wrote: TH My confirm receipt and reading confirmation is useless. It has never TH worked. Are there any fixes for this. My Outlook works like a champ TH but not so with TB. JSL For what it's worth, I submit #20 contained herein: JSL http://www.emailreplies.com/#9capitals These receipt/read confirmations make sense in business, if an agent or supplier is not answering their mails. I request the confirmations in the reminder. Once I get the reply from their server or client, I know that the message was at least received and he has no excuse if he didn't actually read it. If I get no confirmation back, I call or fax and ask whether my mail is stuck in their spam folder. -- Cheers, Thomas. Bahnuebergaenge sind die haertesten Drogen. Ein Zug und man ist weg. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.28.4 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Confirm Receipt, Reading Confirmation
Hello Jens, This is what you said on Sun, 28 Sep 2008 02:03:21 +0200 your time: It is not working or it is not usable. (nicht unnütz) It is not working! 1) Sender A sends email to recipient B: Sender A includes a reading confirmation request and delivery confirmation request. 2) Recipient B receives and reads the email from Sender A and, in The Bat!, is prompted to allow reading confirmation when highlighting another email or deselecting the read email. So recipient B clicks okay. 3) Sender, and now recipient, A, does not get a reading confirmation NOR do they get a delivery confirmation. So I'd say that this feature has become broken...well in TB! it is. Of course haven't tried sending to a another client. -- Simon (Privateofcourse) #16192. Wow Hie Dong Res? ¶ TB! 4.0.34 WinXP Pro Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Confirm Receipt, Reading Confirmation
Hello Privateofcourse, It is not working or it is not usable. (nicht unnütz) It is not working! Oh yes it is working! Or let me put it this way: In the many years that I have been using TB I have never seen it fail. 1) Sender A sends email to recipient B: Sender A includes a reading confirmation request and delivery confirmation request. Reading confirmation request and delivery confirmation request or two different things. RCR is 'targeted' to the recipient and DCR is targeted to the mail server where the recipient has his mail account and mailbox. Now, my experience along the years is that there are many mail servers that simply ignore DCRs, and the recipient can't do anything about that. 2) Recipient B receives and reads the email from Sender A and, in The Bat!, is prompted to allow reading confirmation when highlighting another email or deselecting the read email. So recipient B clicks okay. ...in The Bat!, is prompted to allow reading confirmation He is prompted, or not, and the confirmation is sent, or not, depending in the settings in: Account-Properties-Templates-Reading confirmation ...when highlighting another email or deselecting the read email. ,- [ As I have written in TBBeta about this issue: ] | | The 'Reading Confirmation Receipt' is sent (or queued to Outbox) when | the message is 'marked as READ'. | | Now, when is a message marked as Read? That depends on a couple of | configuration options: | | 1.- In Account-Properties-Options | - Mark the message as read when it is being read for X Secs | - Mark the message as read only when it is open in a separate window | | 2.- In Options/Preferences/Message List | - Go to the next unread message with the SmartSpace reading | - Mark the current message as read when navigating away from it | | In my case I have none of the four options ticked because I want to | decide when I have read each message. So, I use the shortcut 'Ctrl+M' | (actually 'Space', which I have configured in Customiser). `- 3) Sender, and now recipient, A, does not get a reading confirmation NOR do they get a delivery confirmation. As mentioned above, delivery confirmation depends on the mail server ignoring the request, or not. And in regards to reading confirmation: Was it actually sent, or perhaps just queued in Outbox or perhaps just ignored? As mentioned above, that may depend on the settings in: Account-Properties-Templates-Reading confirmation If the confirmation was actually sent, it should appear in your Sent Mail folder unless moved or deleted by some Outgoing filter. And if it was actually sent and the recipient (original sender who requested the confirmation) didn't receive it... Could it be that he uses some filters or Spam scheme that flag it as Spam or perhaps even delete it? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.34.11 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Confirm Receipt, Reading Confirmation
am Sonntag, 28. September 2008 um 03:52 schrieb Michael Kreyling: I have it set to send immediately and prompt before the action.Not using OTFE doesn't make a difference.It won't work with it off or on.I've tried it both ways.I'm using AVG 8.0 and I have it set to scan incoming and outgoing messages.I weonder if that could be the problem. I am also using AVG 8.0 (since this is able to install on FAT32 now) with scanning in/outbound but only with attachments. I tested it with myself, and after trying to close the Mail, i am asked: ,- [ ] | --- | Browse messages of the Common Folder * Maileingang * | --- | OK to create reading confirmation to the message | | from Jens Franik [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | with subject Test confirm? | --- | OK Abbrechen | --- `- But you are right, there is no Message generated and of course there is no Confirmation to be send... This is not due to AVG, there is even no Message in the Outbox. If i trigger the Confirmation manually by a Quick-Template, it is sent. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.0.34.11 AntiSpamSniper 3.0.0.9 Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Confirm Receipt, Reading Confirmation
Hello Tim, On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 17:38:44 -0700 GMT (28/09/2008, 07:38 +0700 GMT), Tim Hamm wrote: TH My confirm receipt and reading confirmation is useless. It has never TH worked. Are there any fixes for this. My Outlook works like a champ TH but not so with TB. Are you telling us that when writing to the same user and asking for a reading confirmation, that you get one when asked by Outlook and not when asked by TB? Without that user being located on the same Exchange server as you yourself of course, because in that cause Outlook in cheating... TH TB is not prejudice... regardless of who I send emails to, these TH features simply have never worked. FWIW it works over here. When I request a receipt confirmation, it is up to the recipient's server whether it is sent back to me. When I request a read confirmation, it is up to the recipient's settings whether I receive it. Non-OTFE, but that shouldn't make a difference. I use these features for important mails. -- Cheers, Thomas. I like to sing to the songs on the radio in my car. When you go into a tunnel, it's hard to come out on the right note. Actually, the news is more difficult. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.28.4 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Confirm Receipt, Reading Confirmation
am Sonntag, 28. September 2008 um 12:49 schrieb Privateofcourse: It is not working! So I'd say that this feature has become broken...well in TB! it is. Of course haven't tried sending to a another client. You are right, it already on the BETA List. Might be fixed in the next Versions - you might roll back to .7 where it worked, as far as i know. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.0.34.11 AntiSpamSniper 3.0.0.9 Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Confirm Receipt, Reading Confirmation
Hello Jens, I tested it with myself, and after trying to close the Mail, i am asked: ,- [ ] | --- | Browse messages of the Common Folder * Maileingang * Ah! Darn Common Folders! Do me a favour, please. Right click on your * Maileingang * Common Folder and select Properties-Templates-Confirmation. Is the confirmation template set to %BLANK? If so, - either select 'Override Account's Confirmation Settings' and include a non %BLANK template. - or, while your Common folder is selected, go to Account - Properties - Templates - Reading Confirmation and include a non %BLANK template there. Now see if it works, or not. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.34.11 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Confirm Receipt, Reading Confirmation
On Sunday, September 28, 2008, 5:49:01 AM, Privateofcourse wrote: It is not working! it is working perfectly here. just the same as it alway does. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.0.34.11 on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 1) Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Confirm Receipt, Reading Confirmation
am Sonntag, 28. September 2008 um 13:57 schrieb MAU: I tested it with myself, and after trying to close the Mail, i am asked: | --- | Browse messages of the Common Folder * Maileingang * Ah! Darn Common Folders! Do me a favour, please. Right click on your * Maileingang * Common Folder and select Properties-Templates-Confirmation. This is a Virtual Common Folder, which represents a Summary of all my Inboxes - there is no such Option to change the Templates there. Is the confirmation template set to %BLANK? I am sure, that it is not set to %BLANK, because exactly the same Place it has been working for a long time. Now see if it works, or not. I am sorry, it does not work. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.0.34.11 AntiSpamSniper 3.0.0.9 Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Confirm Receipt, Reading Confirmation
am Sonntag, 28. September 2008 um 14:05 schrieb Jens Franik:
Ah! Darn Common Folders!
This is a Virtual Common Folder, which represents a Summary of all my
Inboxes - there is no such Option to change the Templates there.
To be more specific i tested it again now with the Real Folder Inbox:
,- [ ]
| ---
| View Folder Inbox of Jens GMX
| ---
| OK to create reading confirmation to the message
|
| from Jens Franik [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|
| with subject test confimation?
| ---
| OK Abbrechen
| ---
`-
There is no Reading Confirmation generated, nor is one sent.
Maybe it is a problem with the Gajin Template?
,- [ This is the Template ]
| %CLEAR%-
| %_VarFrom=%IF:|%OFROMNAME|=|%OFROMADDR|:|%OFROMADDR|:|%OFROMNAME
%OFROMADDR|%-
| %_VarTo=%IF:|%OTOLIST|=|undisclosed-recipients:;|:|(kein Empfänger)|:|%-
| %XMP_StrRepl(%OTOLIST,, ,%XMP_StrC(#\r\n #))|%-
| %_VarSubj=%IF:|%OSUBJ|=||:|(ohne Betreff)|:|%OSUBJ|%-
| - EMPFANGSBESTÄTIGUNG / LESEBESTÄTIGUNG -
|
| Für die Nachricht:
| Von: %_VarFrom
| An: %_VarTo
| Gesendet am: %ODATE=, den %-
| %ODATE=dd.mm., um %OTIMELONG Uhr %-
| (UTC %XMP_TimeParse(%HEADER('Date'),0,))
| Betreff: %_VarSubj
| Msg-Id: %XMP_MsgId
| %IF:|%OATTACHMENTS||none|:| Anlagen:
| o) %-
| %XMP_StrRepl(%OATTACHMENTS,, ,%XMP_StrC(#\r\no) #))
| |:||
| Diese Nachricht wurde am %DATE=, %-
| den %DATE=dd.mm., um %TIMELONG Uhr,
| von %FROMNAME (%FROMADDR) empfangen und gelesen.
|
| Wenn Sie keine Empfangs- und/oder Lesebestätigungen mehr empfangen
| möchten, deaktivieren Sie bitte diese Einstellung in Ihrem Mailprogramm.
|
| ==
| Diese Nachricht wurde automatisch von The Bat! %THEBATVERSION generiert.
| Powered by Extended Macro Plugin %XMP_PlugVer (http://www.gaijin.at/).
| ==
| %Subject=Empfangsbestätigung / Lesebestätigung
| %SetHeader(X-Rogue,:Kr_bat:)%-
| %SetHeader(X-Rogue-URL,http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg;)%-
`-
--
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Jens Franik
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Re: Confirm Receipt, Reading Confirmation
am Sonntag, 28. September 2008 um 15:05 schrieb Michael Kreyling: It's not AVG like you said.I disabled AVG and tried it it,but it didn't work.It has to be a bug in The Bat! and I hope they can fix it.I've never tried a Quick-Template before for anything.I'll have to set one up and try it.It doesn't create the message or send it,so it has to be a bug or broken. Could you please look in your Outbox Folder, not the Sent Folder. I found all the Confirmations there unsent... -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.0.34.11 AntiSpamSniper 3.0.0.9 Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Confirm Receipt, Reading Confirmation
am Sonntag, 28. September 2008 um 15:14 schrieb Michael Kreyling: I looked in my Outbox folder and it's empty.It won't create or send them.I'll just have to wait and see if they can find the problem and fix it. Do you have other than the Default Templates for Reading Confirmation - for example Gajin Makro Plugin? -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.0.34.11 AntiSpamSniper 3.0.0.9 Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Confirm Receipt, Reading Confirmation
am Sonntag, 28. September 2008 um 15:55 schrieb Michael Kreyling: I just have the default templates and don't have any other templates set up.The only plugins I have are AVG and AntiSpamSniper. Ok, so you use the AVG Plugin for The Bat! - thats different, i use the Personal E-Mail Scanner. But as you told, this does not matter. So we have to wait for the Developers. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.0.34.11 AntiSpamSniper 3.0.0.9 Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Confirm Receipt, Reading Confirmation
Hello Jens, There is no Reading Confirmation generated, nor is one sent. Maybe it is a problem with the Gajin Template? ,- [ This is the Template ] Such a 'cumbersome' template just for a reading confirmation? Instead of 'mixing apples and oranges', why don't you test with a simple one line text template? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.34.11 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Confirm Receipt, Reading Confirmation
Hello Jens, Do me a favour, please. Right click on your Maileingang Common Folder and select Properties-Templates-Confirmation. This is a Virtual Common Folder, which represents a Summary of all my Inboxes - there is no such Option to change the Templates there. If it is a virtual folder then each message will behave according to the settings of its own account. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.34.11 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Confirm Receipt, Reading Confirmation
am Sonntag, 28. September 2008 um 16:29 schrieb MAU: Such a 'cumbersome' template just for a reading confirmation? Instead of 'mixing apples and oranges', why don't you test with a simple one line text template? I did test it, one moment bevore i found all the missing Reading-Confirmations in the Outbox of the Account. They were unsent. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.0.34.11 AntiSpamSniper 3.0.0.9 Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Confirm Receipt, Reading Confirmation
Hello Jens, I did test it, one moment bevore i found all the missing Reading-Confirmations in the Outbox of the Account. They were unsent. Try this. From main menu select: Tools-Go Figure-Why-It ain't working for... and from the drop down list select your name. Can't think of anything else. ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.34.11 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Confirm Receipt, Reading Confirmation
Hello Jens, I did test it, one moment bevore i found all the missing Reading-Confirmations in the Outbox of the Account. They were unsent. Try this. From main menu select: Tools-Go Figure-Why-It ain't working for... and from the drop down list select your name. Can't think of anything else. ;-) Mine isn't working either. I sent one from my main account and received it in another account. It was sitting in the outbox with no FROM or account information in the receipt email. It never COULD have been sent -- Rick McCain: The 3rd Bush Term. Don't be fooled again!!! v4.0.34.11 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Confirm Receipt, Reading Confirmation
am Sonntag, 28. September 2008 um 19:20 schrieb MAU: Can't think of anything else. ;-) ;-) We'll see what the Developers think about it. It's me and another User on tbudl@ which have this problem. The other one is on Viste, there for i think it's not my old Win2000 Sp4 - this time. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.0.34.11 AntiSpamSniper 3.0.0.9 Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Confirm Receipt, Reading Confirmation
Hello TBUDL, My confirm receipt and reading confirmation is useless. It has never worked. Are there any fixes for this. My Outlook works like a champ but not so with TB. -- Best regards, Tim Hamm mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Confirm Receipt, Reading Confirmation
am Sonntag, 28. September 2008 um 02:00 schrieb Tim Hamm: My confirm receipt and reading confirmation is useless. It is not working or it is not usable. (nicht unnütz) Would you mind, giving us more Details like OS, Version and what exactly does not work. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jens Franik mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Picture of me? X-Rogue http://www.de2all.de/Kr_bat.jpg The Bat! 4.0.34.11 AntiSpamSniper 3.0.0.9 Windows 2000 5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Confirm Receipt, Reading Confirmation
Hallo Tim, On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 17:00:38 -0700GMT (28-9-2008, 2:00 +0200, where I live), you wrote: TH My confirm receipt and reading confirmation is useless. It has never TH worked. Are there any fixes for this. My Outlook works like a champ TH but not so with TB. Are you telling us that when writing to the same user and asking for a reading confirmation, that you get one when asked by Outlook and not when asked by TB? Without that user being located on the same Exchange server as you yourself of course, because in that cause Outlook in cheating... -- Groetjes, Roelof WinErr 004: Erroneous error - nothing is wrong http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 4.0.34.7 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1 3 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled Quad Core 2.4GHz 4 GB RAM pgpsR8HIjstUN.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Confirm Receipt, Reading Confirmation
Hello Roelof, Saturday, September 27, 2008, 5:14:54 PM, you wrote: Hallo Tim, On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 17:00:38 -0700GMT (28-9-2008, 2:00 +0200, where I live), you wrote: TH My confirm receipt and reading confirmation is useless. It has never TH worked. Are there any fixes for this. My Outlook works like a champ TH but not so with TB. Are you telling us that when writing to the same user and asking for a reading confirmation, that you get one when asked by Outlook and not when asked by TB? Without that user being located on the same Exchange server as you yourself of course, because in that cause Outlook in cheating... TB is not prejudice... regardless of who I send emails to, these features simply have never worked. -- Best regards, Tim Hammmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Confirm Receipt, Reading Confirmation
Hi On Sunday 28 September 2008 at 1:14:22 AM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Michael Kreyling wrote: It won't send reading confirmations for me either.I'm using The Bat! Pro 4.0.34.11 with OTFE enabled on Windows XP Pro SP3.Everything else works good.It won't send them with or without OTFE enabled.I hope they can fix it. TB! sends reading receipts if I want it to. Have you set the options correctly under Account properties templates reading confirmation? I am not using OTFE, in case that makes a difference. -- Best regards, MFPA Consistency is the last refuge of the unimaginative Using The Bat! v4.0.34 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Confirm Receipt, Reading Confirmation
On Saturday, September 27, 2008, 7:03:21 PM, Jens Franik wrote: Would you mind, giving us more Details like OS, Version and what exactly does not work. is it not working because people don't send confirmation, or because you don't? -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.0.34.11 on Windows Vista version 6,0 (Service Pack 1) Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Confirm Receipt, Reading Confirmation
On Sat, 27 Sep 2008, at 23:35:49 [GMT -0500] (which was 6:35 where I live) Dwight Corrin wrote: is it not working because people don't send confirmation, or because you don't? Just checked it and this is also not working with my version, I have sent a message about this to TBBETA. -- cheers, Henk M. de Bruijn __ The Bat! Natural Emails System version 4.0.34.11 on Windows XP SP3 AntispamSniper for The Bat! 3.0.0.9 CSAPI Hunspell spellchecker English Dutch Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail! pgpeuIgj8CinP.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.0.24.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
confirm receipt/reading confirmation - whats the difference
Hi all yep it's the new boy again. Can anyone please explain the difference between these two features/options - also can one select both (depending on the difference and if this would be desireable) in one go instead of selecting each individually from the drop down menu. Thanks -- Stef If a tree falls in the forrest and no one's there to hear it - does it still make a sound ? __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: confirm receipt/reading confirmation - whats the difference
On Wednesday, March 24, 2004, stefan ketola wrote... yep it's the new boy again. Can anyone please explain the difference between these two features/options - also can one select both (depending on the difference and if this would be desireable) in one go instead of selecting each individually from the drop down menu. Confirm Receipt is an option that is supposed to be answered by the final mail server that reports if the mail was delivered to the mailbox, while confirm read is one the user confirms that they have read it. Unfortunately the Confirm Receipt option is pretty useless for 99% of the mail servers on the internet as they have it disabled by default for some reason... I read about it somewhere, I'll have to dig it up. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Don't sweat petty things, or pet sweaty things. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: confirm receipt/reading confirmation - whats the difference
Hiya Confirm Receipt is an option that is supposed to be answered by the final mail server while confirm read is one the user confirms that they have read it. snip Thanks for that ..anyone else anything to add ? Don't sweat petty things, or pet sweaty things. What's wrong with petting sweaty things ? (lloks around nervously) -- Stef One is born, one runs up bills, one dies - (nicked from an episode of Blackadder) __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html Current version is 2.04.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
