Re: Re: Confirmation required to delete a message

2006-09-21 Thread Leonard S. Berkowitz
Richard,

Thanks for the, er, chastisement. I am now not at home, but on Monday, I will 
take the fine-tooth comb out of the medicine closet and put it to work.

Leonard

From: Richard Wakeford [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2006/09/20 Wed PM 03:35:15 CDT
To: tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com
Subject: Re: Confirmation required to delete a message

Hello Leonard,

On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

LSB So, if your idea works, will I need a new folder for everyone in my
LSB address book for whom I have specific reply template grin?

Well, in my address book I have 28 different groups. Some of them only
have a few names but others have many. Almost every group has specific
message settings and, in some of the groups, selected individuals have
more personal settings themselves so that, when a message is sent to one
of them, they get their more personalised message whereas others in the
group get the general group message.

So, to answer your question, no, you don't need a new folder for
everyone in your address book but they do need to be in your address
book and either in a folder that already has its own specific mail
sending templates or you do need to give specific people in the address
book the correct templates or details individually for sending messages
so that it all works properly.

For instance this message to you, and all my messages to TB! is sent
using the same template with the standard greeting, quote heading and
sig.

At the same time I could assign you a specific and more personal
template that would override the folder template that would in turn
override the address book template that would override the main general
template.

Honestly it really does seem, as Roelf has said already, that you've got
a setting wrong somewhere and I've been there and done that only
recently because I had a filter setting that suddenly put a message from
a particular person into the trash folder. I swore black and blue that
I'd checked every thing but I hadn't and I had to hang my head in shame!
I suggest you go over everything with a fine tooth comb and I'm willing
to bet my bottom dollar (don't have many anyway) that that's what it'll
be :-)

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Re[2]: Confirmation required to delete a message

2006-09-20 Thread Leonard S. Berkowitz
On Wednesday, September 20, 2006, at 12:03:45 PM, you wrote:

 Hello Leonard S. Berkowitz  everyone else,

 on 19-Sep-2006 at 23:23 you (Leonard S. Berkowitz) wrote:

 BTW, your cut mark seems to have lost the trailing space

 I'll fix that right away. That's related to the problem that I posted
 on a different thread: that ThBat does not addressee-specific reply
 template and instead defaults to the account rely template, where
 there is a trailing space.

 Erm?! I'm sure you mixed up something in that sentence, or else it
 doesn't make sense.

 And besides that, all sig delimiters should have a trailing space. ;-)

It's a long story, but since you asked...

MFPA pointed out that my cut line did not have a trailing space. In
the reply template for tbudl, there is a trailing space, but not in
the account reply template. In a difference note to the list, I asked
for help about a problem with TheBat not selecting the addressee
specific reply template, but defaulting to the account reply template.

In any event, I've changed the account reply template to have a
trailing space.
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Re: Confirmation required to delete a message

2006-09-20 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Leonard S. Berkowitz  everyone else,

on 20-Sep-2006 at 19:05 you (Leonard S. Berkowitz) wrote:

 I'll fix that right away. That's related to the problem that I posted
 on a different thread: that ThBat does not addressee-specific reply
 template and instead defaults to the account rely template, where
 there is a trailing space.

 Erm?! I'm sure you mixed up something in that sentence, or else it
 doesn't make sense.

 It's a long story, but since you asked...

I know the story, I've replied to it and followed it.


 MFPA pointed out that my cut line did not have a trailing space. In
 the reply template for tbudl, there is a trailing space, but not in
 the account reply template. In a difference note to the list, I asked
 for help about a problem with TheBat not selecting the addressee
 specific reply template, but defaulting to the account reply template.

OK, but thats a different version than the first paragraph above. :-)


 In any event, I've changed the account reply template to have a
 trailing space.

Good.

And, have you followed Roelof's advice to un-hide AB group entries in
the address book to find out if you have multiple occassions of one and
the same address? Thats the information I've been missing in the
original thread...


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Re[2]: Confirmation required to delete a message

2006-09-20 Thread Leonard S. Berkowitz
On Wednesday, September 20, 2006, at 1:20:45 PM, you wrote:

 Hello Leonard S. Berkowitz  everyone else,

 on 20-Sep-2006 at 19:05 you (Leonard S. Berkowitz) wrote:

 I'll fix that right away. That's related to the problem that I posted
 on a different thread: that ThBat does not addressee-specific reply
 template and instead defaults to the account rely template, where
 there is a trailing space.

 Erm?! I'm sure you mixed up something in that sentence, or else it
 doesn't make sense.

 It's a long story, but since you asked...

 I know the story, I've replied to it and followed it.


 MFPA pointed out that my cut line did not have a trailing space. In
 the reply template for tbudl, there is a trailing space, but not in
 the account reply template. In a difference note to the list, I asked
 for help about a problem with TheBat not selecting the addressee
 specific reply template, but defaulting to the account reply template.

 OK, but thats a different version than the first paragraph above. :-)


 In any event, I've changed the account reply template to have a
 trailing space.

 Good.

 And, have you followed Roelof's advice to un-hide AB group entries in
 the address book to find out if you have multiple occassions of one and
 the same address? Thats the information I've been missing in the
 original thread...

I did that immediately with no change.

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Re: Confirmation required to delete a message

2006-09-20 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello Leonard,

On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

LSB In the reply template for tbudl, there is a trailing space, but not
LSB in the account reply template. In a difference note to the list, I
LSB asked for help about a problem with TheBat not selecting the
LSB addressee specific reply template, but defaulting to the account
LSB reply template.

Maybe it's worth trying the following if you haven't already. In your
address book create a folder Called The Bat (or whatever you want) and
add the tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com to that folder. Then, in the folder
settings, put your usual quick templates or whatever in the New
message and Reply boxes and then all your messages to TBUDL will have
those templates or settings.

Maybe you've already done that, it's hard to tell from your previous
messages.

It's also strange that, just with your messages, they arrive about 3
hours after you've sent them so I read all the responses and then your
messages arrive. Since no one else has mentioned it, it must be specific
to me and maybe something Wanadoo is doing to hold them up a bit :-(

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Re[2]: Confirmation required to delete a message

2006-09-20 Thread Leonard S. Berkowitz
On Wednesday, September 20, 2006, at 3:46:03 PM, you wrote:

 Hello Leonard,

 On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 you wrote in
 mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

LSB In the reply template for tbudl, there is a trailing space, but not
LSB in the account reply template. In a difference note to the list, I
LSB asked for help about a problem with TheBat not selecting the
LSB addressee specific reply template, but defaulting to the account
LSB reply template.

 Maybe it's worth trying the following if you haven't already. In your
 address book create a folder Called The Bat (or whatever you want) and
 add the tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com to that folder. Then, in the folder
 settings, put your usual quick templates or whatever in the New
 message and Reply boxes and then all your messages to TBUDL will have
 those templates or settings.

 Maybe you've already done that, it's hard to tell from your previous
 messages.

 It's also strange that, just with your messages, they arrive about 3
 hours after you've sent them so I read all the responses and then your
 messages arrive. Since no one else has mentioned it, it must be specific
 to me and maybe something Wanadoo is doing to hold them up a bit :-(

Richard,

I will try your suggestion about a new folder, but it is not only
replying to TheBat list where I have this problem. So, if your idea
works, will I need a new folder for everyone in my address book for
whom I have specific reply template grin?

Thanks.

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Re: Confirmation required to delete a message

2006-09-20 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Leonard S. Berkowitz  everyone else,

on 20-Sep-2006 at 19:43 you (Leonard S. Berkowitz) wrote:

 And, have you followed Roelof's advice to un-hide AB group entries
 in the address book to find out if you have multiple occassions of
 one and the same address? Thats the information I've been missing in
 the original thread...

 I did that immediately with no change.

I think its always good to send feedback when you couldn't solve the
problem.

FWIW, all entries in my personal address book belong to some AB group
(with templates for the individual groups). I have unchecked the hide
items if not explicitely selected checkbox in all my AB groups so that
I can see all entries in my AB when I click on the root personal
address book.


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Re: Confirmation required to delete a message

2006-09-20 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello Leonard,

On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

LSB So, if your idea works, will I need a new folder for everyone in my
LSB address book for whom I have specific reply template grin?

Well, in my address book I have 28 different groups. Some of them only
have a few names but others have many. Almost every group has specific
message settings and, in some of the groups, selected individuals have
more personal settings themselves so that, when a message is sent to one
of them, they get their more personalised message whereas others in the
group get the general group message.

So, to answer your question, no, you don't need a new folder for
everyone in your address book but they do need to be in your address
book and either in a folder that already has its own specific mail
sending templates or you do need to give specific people in the address
book the correct templates or details individually for sending messages
so that it all works properly.

For instance this message to you, and all my messages to TB! is sent
using the same template with the standard greeting, quote heading and
sig.

At the same time I could assign you a specific and more personal
template that would override the folder template that would in turn
override the address book template that would override the main general
template.

Honestly it really does seem, as Roelf has said already, that you've got
a setting wrong somewhere and I've been there and done that only
recently because I had a filter setting that suddenly put a message from
a particular person into the trash folder. I swore black and blue that
I'd checked every thing but I hadn't and I had to hang my head in shame!
I suggest you go over everything with a fine tooth comb and I'm willing
to bet my bottom dollar (don't have many anyway) that that's what it'll
be :-)

-- 
Regards,
Richard

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Re: Confirmation required to delete a message

2006-09-19 Thread MFPA

Hi

On Monday 18 September 2006 at 9:59:05 PM, in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Leonard S.
Berkowitz wrote:

 The box that I unchecked (that solved the problem) describes
 previewing messages; I was reading them.

I nearly always /read/ them in the preview pane (-;

 --

BTW, your cut mark seems to have lost the trailing space

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Re[2]: Confirmation required to delete a message

2006-09-19 Thread Leonard S. Berkowitz
On Tuesday, September 19, 2006, at 4:57:36 PM, you wrote:

 Hi

 On Monday 18 September 2006 at 9:59:05 PM, in
 mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Leonard S.
 Berkowitz wrote:

 The box that I unchecked (that solved the problem) describes
 previewing messages; I was reading them.

 I nearly always /read/ them in the preview pane (-;

 --

 BTW, your cut mark seems to have lost the trailing space

I'll fix that right away. That's related to the problem that I posted
on a different thread: that ThBat does not addressee-specific reply
template and instead defaults to the account rely template, where
there is a trailing space.

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Confirmation required to delete a message

2006-09-18 Thread Leonard S. Berkowitz
I just installed the 3.85.03 home edition. Now, every message that I
attempt to delete requires confirmation. I usually delete message with
the forward or back arrow, and not the trash can. I looked in
Account Properties and could find no setting to skip confirmation. Is
there away to avoid confirmation on deletion?

Thanks.

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Re: Confirmation required to delete a message

2006-09-18 Thread MFPA

Hi

On Monday 18 September 2006 at 8:06:15 PM, in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Leonard S.
Berkowitz wrote:

 I just installed the 3.85.03 home edition. Now, every message that I
 attempt to delete requires confirmation.

[...]

 I looked in Account Properties and could find no setting to skip
 confirmation. Is there away to avoid confirmation on deletion?

Not using that version but is there anything relevant in
options | preferences | confirmations?  Or folder properties?

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Re: Confirmation required to delete a message

2006-09-18 Thread Luc
Good evening Leonard,
  
It was foretold that on 18/09/2006 @ 15:06:15 GMT-0400 (which was
21:06:15 where I live) Leonard S. Berkowitz would write:
  
snipped a bit

LSB Now,   every   message   that   I   attempt  to  delete  requires
LSB confirmation.  I  looked  in Account Properties and could find no
LSB setting to skip confirmation. Is there away to avoid confirmation
LSB on deletion?

Options -- preferences -- other options --- confirmations ?

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Re: Confirmation required to delete a message

2006-09-18 Thread Philippe Macaire
Leonard S. Berkowitz wrote:

 I just installed the 3.85.03 home edition. Now, every message that I
 attempt to delete requires confirmation. I usually delete message with
 the forward or back arrow, and not the trash can. I looked in
 Account Properties and could find no setting to skip confirmation. Is
 there away to avoid confirmation on deletion?

 Thanks.


Leonard,

I noticed that new behavior with 3.85.03 pro: I think it's a new
setting, you can find in

Options / Preferences / Other Options / Confirmations

My guess is that you're looking for Delete message(s) from text
preview area: just uncheck.



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Re[2]: Confirmation required to delete a message

2006-09-18 Thread Leonard S. Berkowitz
On Monday, September 18, 2006, at 3:33:12 PM, you wrote:

 Good evening Leonard,
   
 It was foretold that on 18/09/2006 @ 15:06:15 GMT-0400 (which was
 21:06:15 where I live) Leonard S. Berkowitz would write:
   
 snipped a bit

LSB Now,   every   message   that   I   attempt  to  delete  requires
LSB confirmation.  I  looked  in Account Properties and could find no
LSB setting to skip confirmation. Is there away to avoid confirmation
LSB on deletion?

Options -- preferences -- other options --- confirmations ?

Thank you. The box that I unchecked (that solved the problem)
describes previewing messages; I was reading them.

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Re[2]: Confirmation required to delete a message

2006-09-18 Thread Leonard S. Berkowitz
On Monday, September 18, 2006, at 3:47:31 PM, you wrote:

 Leonard S. Berkowitz wrote:

 I just installed the 3.85.03 home edition. Now, every message that I
 attempt to delete requires confirmation. I usually delete message with
 the forward or back arrow, and not the trash can. I looked in
 Account Properties and could find no setting to skip confirmation. Is
 there away to avoid confirmation on deletion?

 Thanks.


 Leonard,

 I noticed that new behavior with 3.85.03 pro: I think it's a new
 setting, you can find in

 Options / Preferences / Other Options / Confirmations

 My guess is that you're looking for Delete message(s) from text
 preview area: just uncheck.

That did seem to solve the problem, but the text next to the checking
box is misleading: I was reading e-mail messages, not simply
previewing them.
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