Re: DNS problem?

[Syafril Hermansyah]

Hello Michael Heydekamp,

On  Tuesday,  January  25,  2000  at  18:50:02  GMT  +0100  (which was
25/01/2000 0:50 GMT + 0700 my Local Time) you told to the list:

[ ... ]

MH> Yup -  you should have received my msg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> where
MH> I said:

MH> - - - - -
SH>>> Now,  I believe Michael will receive in the new server (Michael please
SH>>> confirm).

MH>> I'm happy to confirm.  Thanks for your efforts, Syafril.
MH> - - - - -

Yep, sorry I read via Web-mail at that time, now I found it.

MH> My  new ISP states that everything is OK at his end (have you ever
MH> heard of an ISP saying something different?). ;-)

You right :-)

MH> But,  honestly,  my  new  ISP is a really professional one, thus I
MH> assume  that  the  problem  is  either  a)  at  my  old ISP, or b)
MH> somewhere at TBUDL.

MH> Please  consider  that as a matter of fact TBUDL mail was the only
MH> mail  whatsoever that still came in through the old ISP. Thus case
MH> b) is more likely than case a) above.

The problem at my secondary DNS Server, i.e Cache File Courupted. This
happen  sometimes  if in the process of DNS Query the connection broke
(due  to  system  shutdown, run out of HDD space or any other reason).

Sorry for that.

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Re: DNS problem?

[Michael Heydekamp]

Dear Syafril,

on Monday, January 24, 2000, 15:55, you wrote:

MH>> Well, thank you for that, but ...

SH> This means you confirm that you receive TBUDL mesaages at your new
SH> server ?

Yup -  you should have received my msg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> where
I said:

- - - - -
SH>> Now,  I believe Michael will receive in the new server (Michael please
SH>> confirm).

MH> I'm happy to confirm.  Thanks for your efforts, Syafril.
- - - - -

MH>> I  believe  this  is not the "normal" way it should work, right?

SH> Indeed.

MH>> I mean if you would always have to intervent manually just because
MH>> someone changed his ISP ...

SH> Never done before, IMHO, I need it only for domain who refer to
SH> "lame" Name Server (try to ask your new ISP, check his log of Name
SH> Server, if there is "lame error", I need some "confirmation" to find
SH> the problem), or if my Name Server cache courupted (tomorrow I will
SH> check the cache of my other Name Server).

My new ISP states that everything is OK at his end (have you ever heard
of an ISP saying something different?). ;-)

But, honestly, my new ISP is a really professional one, thus I assume
that the problem is either a) at my old ISP, or b) somewhere at TBUDL.

Please consider that as a matter of fact TBUDL mail was the only mail
whatsoever that still came in through the old ISP.  Thus case b) is more
likely than case a) above.

MH>> Thus  I  think  to  find  (and  eliminate)  the reason in order to
MH>> prevent this hassle in the future is still a good idea.

SH> You  right,  I will check Name Server log tomorrow, to find out what's
SH> the real problem.

Good luck!


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Re: DNS problem?

[Syafril Hermansyah]

Hello Michael Heydekamp,

On  Monday,  January  24,  2000  at  15:23:36  GMT  +0100  (which  was
24/01/2000 21:23 GMT + 0700 my Local Time) you told to the list:

MDP>>> Syafril:  Something's  going  wrong  here.  What  does  the  MD
MDP>>> internal cache show for this domain?

SH>> Still  refer  to  the  old  one,  because if I delete it, it will
SH>> refresh   from   my   DNS   Server  (which  still  refer  to  old
SH>> airtraffic.de server).

MDP>>> Can you check and possibly exempt the domain from caching to
MDP>>> ensure that it always does the DNS lookup?

SH>> Sure, I just force to change airtraffic.de's MX ip addresses at MX
SH>> cache, also change the primary DNS who the server will refer to.

MH> Well, thank you for that, but ...

This  means  you  confirm  that you receive TBUDL mesaages at your new
server ?

MH> I  believe  this  is not the "normal" way it should work, right?

Indeed.

MH> I mean if you would always have to intervent manually just because
MH> someone changed his ISP ...

Never done before, IMHO, I need it only for domain who refer to "lame"
Name Server (try to ask your new ISP, check his log of Name Server, if
there  is  "lame  error",  I  need  some  "confirmation"  to  find the
problem),  or if my Name Server cache courupted (tomorrow I will check
the cache of my other Name Server).

MH> Thus  I  think  to  find  (and  eliminate)  the reason in order to
MH> prevent this hassle in the future is still a good idea.

You  right,  I will check Name Server log tomorrow, to find out what's
the real problem.


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Re: DNS problem?

[Michael Heydekamp]

Dear Syafril,

on Monday, January 24, 2000, 13:28, you wrote:

MDP>> Syafril: Something's going wrong here. What does the MD internal
MDP>> cache show for this domain?

SH> Still refer to the old one, because if I delete it, it will refresh
SH> from my DNS Server (which still refer to old airtraffic.de server).

MDP>> Can you check and possibly exempt the domain from caching to
MDP>> ensure that it always does the DNS lookup?

SH> Sure, I just force to change airtraffic.de's MX ip addresses at MX
SH> cache, also change the primary DNS who the server will refer to.

Well, thank you for that, but ... I believe this is not the "normal" way
it should work, right?  I mean if you would always have to intervent
manually just because someone changed his ISP ...

Thus I think to find (and eliminate) the reason in order to prevent this
hassle in the future is still a good idea.


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Re: DNS problem?

[Michael Heydekamp]

Dear Syafril,

on Monday, January 24, 2000, 12:48, you wrote:

SH> It seems my DNS not renewal the cache, perhaps "serial problem".
SH> OK  I  just  "forcing  to update", hope now you receiving this message
SH> from your new Server.

Yes, I do!  In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you said:

SH> Now,  I believe Michael will receive in the new server (Michael please
SH> confirm).

I'm happy to confirm.  Thanks for your efforts, Syafril.


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Re: DNS problem?

[Syafril Hermansyah]

Hello Marck D. Pearlstone,

On  Monday,  January  24,  2000  at  12:10:25  GMT  +  (which  was
24/01/2000 19:10 GMT + 0700 my Local Time) you told to the list:
[ ... ]

MDP> Syafril:  Something's going wrong here. What does the MD internal
MDP> cache show for this domain?

Still  refer  to  the old one, because if I delete it, it will refresh
from my DNS Server (which still refer to old airtraffic.de server).

MDP> Can  you  check  and  possibly  exempt the domain from caching to
MDP> ensure that it always does the DNS lookup?

Sure,  I  just  force  to change airtraffic.de's MX ip addresses at MX
cache, also change the primary DNS who the server will refer to.

Now,  I believe Michael will receive in the new server (Michael please
confirm).

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Re: DNS problem?

[Marck D. Pearlstone]

Hi Michael,

On  24 January 2000  at  11:10:13 GMT +0100 (which was 10:10 where I
live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points:

SH Preference=10, Mail Exchange=excalibur.iks-jena.de
MH>>>^^^

MH>>> And this as well. Nonetheless, TBUDL mail (and TBUDL mail only)
MH>>> is still coming through the old one. Strange, isn't it?

MH>>> What to do about that?

SH>> Nothing, wait till DNS Server refresh the data (I can change the
SH>> the cache data manually, but it takes time, sorry ).

MH> Have you got an idea how much? Four days have gone since your last
MH> posting to this issue, TBUDL mail is *still* coming in through the
MH> old server.

MH> And today it is 14 days since I switched to another ISP ...

Syafril: Something's going wrong here. What does the MD internal cache
show  for  this  domain?  Can you check and possibly exempt the domain
from caching to ensure that it always does the DNS lookup?

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Re: DNS problem?

[Syafril Hermansyah]

Hello Michael Heydekamp,

On  Monday,  January  24,  2000  at  11:10:13  GMT  +0100  (which  was
24/01/2000 17:10 GMT + 0700 my Local Time) you told to the list:
[ ... ]

MH> Have you got an idea how much?  Four days have gone since your last
MH> posting to this issue, TBUDL mail is *still* coming in through the old
MH> server.

MH> And today it is 14 days since I switched to another ISP ...

It seems my DNS not renewal the cache, perhaps "serial problem".
OK  I  just  "forcing  to update", hope now you receiving this message
from your new Server.


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Re: DNS problem?

[Michael Heydekamp]

Dear Syafril,

on Thursday, January 20, 2000, 03:41, you wrote:

MH>> [snip]

SH>>> - Name=airtraffic.de
SH>>> Type=MX, Class=1, TTL=57194 (15 Hours 53 Minutes 14 Seconds), 
SH>>> RDLENGTH=20
SH>>> Preference=20, Mail Exchange=avalon.iks-jena.de
MH>> ^^^
MH>> This *is* my new provider!

SH>>> Preference=10, Mail Exchange=excalibur.iks-jena.de
MH>>^^^

MH>> And this as well. Nonetheless, TBUDL mail (and TBUDL mail only) is still
MH>> coming through the old one. Strange, isn't it?

MH>> What to do about that?

SH> Nothing,  wait  till DNS Server refresh the data (I can change the the
SH> cache data manually, but it takes time, sorry ).

Have you got an idea how much?  Four days have gone since your last
posting to this issue, TBUDL mail is *still* coming in through the old
server.

And today it is 14 days since I switched to another ISP ...


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Re: DNS problem?

[Syafril Hermansyah]

Hello Michael Heydekamp,

On  Wed, 19 Jan 2000 at 19:38:28 [GMT +0100] your local time which was
Thursday, January 20, 2000 1:38:28 [GMT +0700] my local time, you told
to the list:

SH>> Other possibilities, my Name Server didn't receive broadcast from
SH>> your  new  DNS,  see below, the backup of our DNS Server indicate
SH>> different  setting  (perhaps  this  one  your old DNS) which will
SH>> refresh next 3 hours :

MH> [snip]

MH> This all doesn't say too much to me, but what I know is that the 3
MH> hours  you  mentioned above are over since 22 hours and that TBUDL
MH> mail is still coming in through the old server.

Sorry to post too technical before.
>From the data of my last posting mentioned as follow :

- My "cache" DNS Sever still refer your server to mail.airtraffic.de,
  and will refresh next 3 hours.
- Unfortunetely the cache mentioned that the Authorize DNS server for
  your  domain still refer to ns1.internetnamen.de, which will refresh
  next 18 hours, so the new data (still) refer to mail.airtraffic.de.
- After 24 hours (after last refreshing from ns1.internetnamen.de), my
  server  will  refresh  the data again, but (I believe) will refer to
  ecrc.de [141.1.1.1], so the MX record will refer to your new Server.

My  recommendation,  speak to your old ISP to set airtraffic.de domain
as  Non Autoretieve or delete that zone or  wait next 20 hours (I just
check), mailto : [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: DNS problem?

[Syafril Hermansyah]

Hello Michael Heydekamp,

On  Wed, 19 Jan 2000 at 19:32:08 [GMT +0100] your local time which was
Thursday, January 20, 2000 1:32:08 [GMT +0700] my local time, you told
to the list:

SH>> Normally,  if we moved domain zone from one Name Server to others
SH>> it  needs  7-days  to  be effective (this is default TTL for BIND
SH>> 8.x; for 4.x or NT DNS the default 3-days).

MH> 7 days? Both my old and my new ISP spoke about 24-48 hours. Why is
MH> it that long?

That's the default setting.
If someone want to move Authoritive DNS Resurce Record from one Server
to  others, generally he will setting down the TTL to (say) 1 hour (as
Steve mentioned), wait for a week than move there.

Other  trick  (to  speed up the process) : delete the domain zone from
old  DNS  Server or (better) set as Non Authoritive as soon as new DNS
Server  active,  so  any  DNS Query for that domain will refer to ROOT
Domain (InterNIC or Country-NIC).

MH> [snip]

SH>> - Name=airtraffic.de
SH>> Type=MX, Class=1, TTL=57194 (15 Hours 53 Minutes 14 Seconds), 
SH>> RDLENGTH=20
SH>> Preference=20, Mail Exchange=avalon.iks-jena.de
MH> ^^^
MH> This *is* my new provider!

SH>> Preference=10, Mail Exchange=excalibur.iks-jena.de
MH>^^^

MH> And this as well. Nonetheless, TBUDL mail (and TBUDL mail only) is still
MH> coming through the old one. Strange, isn't it?

MH> What to do about that?

Nothing,  wait  till DNS Server refresh the data (I can change the the
cache data manually, but it takes time, sorry ).


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Re: DNS problem?

[Marck D. Pearlstone]

Hi Michael,

On  19 January 2000  at  19:38:28 GMT +0100 (which was 18:38 where I
live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points:

>>>This is last info from our DNS (who the List refer to).

SH>> Other possibilities, my Name Server didn't receive broadcast from
SH>> your new DNS, see below, the backup of our DNS Server indicate
SH>> different setting (perhaps this one your old DNS) which will refresh
SH>> next 3 hours :

MH> [snip]

MH> This all doesn't say too much to me, but what I know is that the 3 hours
MH> you mentioned above are over since 22 hours and that TBUDL mail is still
MH> coming in through the old server.


Well,   I   just   dived  in  and  removed  the  IP  cache  entry  for
airtraffic.de, which still had 21 hours to live (out of about 7 days).
Shall we see if that sorts out the problem?

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Re: DNS problem?

[Michael Heydekamp]

Dear Syafril,

on Tuesday, January 18, 2000, 21:10, you wrote:

>>This is last info from our DNS (who the List refer to).

SH> Other possibilities, my Name Server didn't receive broadcast from
SH> your new DNS, see below, the backup of our DNS Server indicate
SH> different setting (perhaps this one your old DNS) which will refresh
SH> next 3 hours :

[snip]

This all doesn't say too much to me, but what I know is that the 3 hours
you mentioned above are over since 22 hours and that TBUDL mail is still
coming in through the old server.


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Re: DNS problem?

[Michael Heydekamp]

Dear Syafril,

on Tuesday, January 18, 2000, 20:26, you wrote:

SH> Normally, if we moved domain zone from one Name Server to others it
SH> needs 7-days to be effective (this is default TTL for BIND 8.x; for
SH> 4.x or NT DNS the default 3-days).

7 days?  Both my old and my new ISP spoke about 24-48 hours.  Why is it
that long?

SH> Our server will check to *Authorize* DNS for your domain, and will
SH> refresh as mentioned on TTL setting of that DNS.

SH> This is last info from our DNS (who the List refer to).

[snip]

SH> - Name=airtraffic.de
SH> Type=MX, Class=1, TTL=57194 (15 Hours 53 Minutes 14 Seconds), 
SH> RDLENGTH=20
SH> Preference=20, Mail Exchange=avalon.iks-jena.de
^^^
This *is* my new provider!

SH> Preference=10, Mail Exchange=excalibur.iks-jena.de
   ^^^

And this as well. Nonetheless, TBUDL mail (and TBUDL mail only) is still
coming through the old one. Strange, isn't it?

What to do about that?


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Re: DNS problem?

[Syafril Hermansyah]

-Original Message-
From: "Syafril Hermansyah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 02:26:23 +0700
Subject: Re: DNS problem?

>-Original Message-
>From: Michael Heydekamp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 19:55:44 +0100
>Subject: DNS problem?
>
>>on Jan 10th our domain was finally moved to another ISP, about two
>>days later the whole mail traffic came in via the new mail server.

>Normally, if we moved domain zone from one Name Server to others it 
>needs 7-days to be effective  (this is default TTL for BIND 8.x; for
>4.x or NT DNS the default 3-days).

>>Except all the incoming mail of TBUDL - this is still going to our
>>former ISP and I still have to fetch it from there (fortunately our
>>account there is not deleted yet).

>>Does any of the experts here have an idea what's going on and what
>I can do about that?  Shouldn't they also in Indonesia be aware of
>the new DNS data?

>Our server will check to *Authorize* DNS for your domain, and will 
>refresh as mentioned on TTL setting of that DNS.
>
>This is last info from our DNS (who the List refer to).

Other possibilities, my Name Server didn't receive broadcast from your 
new  DNS, see below, the backup of our DNS Server indicate different 
setting (perhaps this one your old DNS) which will refresh next 3 
hours :


Wednesday, January 19, 2000 03:09:12AM

Name Server LookUp for airtraffic.de
Search Type: ALL - All records
Name Server: 202.134.1.243

Header:
   ID=51290, QR=Response, Opcode=QUERY, RCODE=NO ERROR
   Authoritative Answer=No, Truncation=No
   Recursion Desired=Yes, Recursion Available=Yes
   QDCOUNT=1, ANCOUNT=4, NSCOUNT=2, ARCOUNT=2
Question:
   Name=airtraffic.de, QTYPE=ALL, QCLASS=1
Answer Section:
- Name=airtraffic.de
Type=NS, Class=1, TTL=37613 (10 Hours 26 Minutes 53 Seconds), 
RDLENGTH=22
Name Server=ns1.internetnamen.de
- Name=airtraffic.de
Type=NS, Class=1, TTL=37613 (10 Hours 26 Minutes 53 Seconds), 
RDLENGTH=6
Name Server=ns2.internetnamen.de
- Name=airtraffic.de
Type=MX, Class=1, TTL=10131 (2 Hours 48 Minutes 51 Seconds), 
RDLENGTH=9
Preference=10, Mail Exchange=mail.airtraffic.de
- Name=airtraffic.de
Type=A, Class=1, TTL=67207 (18 Hours 40 Minutes 7 Seconds), 
RDLENGTH=4
IP Address=209.95.106.208
Authority Records Section:
- Name=airtraffic.de
Type=NS, Class=1, TTL=37613 (10 Hours 26 Minutes 53 Seconds), 
RDLENGTH=2
Name Server=ns1.internetnamen.de
- Name=airtraffic.de
Type=NS, Class=1, TTL=37613 (10 Hours 26 Minutes 53 Seconds), 
RDLENGTH=2
Name Server=ns2.internetnamen.de
Additional Records Section:
- Name=ns1.internetnamen.de
Type=A, Class=1, TTL=54710 (15 Hours 11 Minutes 50 Seconds), 
RDLENGTH=4
IP Address=62.104.62.4
- Name=ns2.internetnamen.de
Type=A, Class=1, TTL=54710 (15 Hours 11 Minutes 50 Seconds), 
RDLENGTH=4
IP Address=195.90.255.132
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Re: DNS problem?

[Steve Lamb]

Tuesday, January 18, 2000, 10:55:44 AM, Michael wrote:
> Does any of the experts here have an idea what's going on and what I can
> do about that?  Shouldn't they also in Indonesia be aware of the new DNS
> data?

Depends on the expire time on the zone file.  If it is set to a week with,
say, a 5 day refresh they will use the cached data until they shut down their
server, the refresh or expire happens.  Generally when you move DNS it is good
to inform the old DNS holder to lower the refresh/expire times to hours
instead of days where it normally is.

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Re: DNS problem?

[Syafril Hermansyah]

-Original Message-
From: Michael Heydekamp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 19:55:44 +0100
Subject: DNS problem?

>on Jan 10th our domain was finally moved to another ISP, about two
>days
>later the whole mail traffic came in via the new mail server.

Normally, if we moved domain zone from one Name Server to others it 
needs 7-days to be effective  (this is default TTL for BIND 8.x; for 
4.x or NT DNS the default 3-days).

>Except all the incoming mail of TBUDL - this is still going to our
>former ISP and I still have to fetch it from there (fortunately our
>account there is not deleted yet).

>Does any of the experts here have an idea what's going on and what I
>can do about that?  Shouldn't they also in Indonesia be aware of the 
>new DNS data?

Our server will check to *Authorize* DNS for your domain, and will 
refresh as mentioned on TTL setting of that DNS.

This is last info from our DNS (who the List refer to).

Wednesday, January 19, 2000 02:18:14AM

Name Server LookUp for airtraffic.de
Search Type: MX - Mail exchange
Name Server: 202.134.1.242

Header:
   ID=48233, QR=Response, Opcode=QUERY, RCODE=NO ERROR
   Authoritative Answer=No, Truncation=No
   Recursion Desired=Yes, Recursion Available=Yes
   QDCOUNT=1, ANCOUNT=3, NSCOUNT=0, ARCOUNT=3
Question:
   Name=airtraffic.de, QTYPE=MX, QCLASS=1
Answer Section:
- Name=airtraffic.de
Type=MX, Class=1, TTL=57194 (15 Hours 53 Minutes 14 Seconds), 
RDLENGTH=20
Preference=20, Mail Exchange=avalon.iks-jena.de
- Name=airtraffic.de
Type=MX, Class=1, TTL=57194 (15 Hours 53 Minutes 14 Seconds), 
RDLENGTH=14
Preference=100, Mail Exchange=mail.ecrc.de
- Name=airtraffic.de
Type=MX, Class=1, TTL=57194 (15 Hours 53 Minutes 14 Seconds), 
RDLENGTH=14
Preference=10, Mail Exchange=excalibur.iks-jena.de
Additional Records Section:
- Name=avalon.iks-jena.de
Type=A, Class=1, TTL=57194 (15 Hours 53 Minutes 14 Seconds), 
RDLENGTH=4
IP Address=194.221.90.34
- Name=mail.ecrc.de
Type=A, Class=1, TTL=57194 (15 Hours 53 Minutes 14 Seconds), 
RDLENGTH=4
IP Address=141.1.1.10
- Name=excalibur.iks-jena.de
Type=A, Class=1, TTL=57194 (15 Hours 53 Minutes 14 Seconds), 
RDLENGTH=4
IP Address=194.221.90.35
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DNS problem?

[Michael Heydekamp]

Hello The Bat! users,

on Jan 10th our domain was finally moved to another ISP, about two days
later the whole mail traffic came in via the new mail server.

Except all the incoming mail of TBUDL - this is still going to our
former ISP and I still have to fetch it from there (fortunately our
account there is not deleted yet).

Does any of the experts here have an idea what's going on and what I can
do about that?  Shouldn't they also in Indonesia be aware of the new DNS
data?


Best regards,

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AIR TRAFFIC Euro Charter GmbH
eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.airtraffic.de

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