Re: How to stop system stop sound?

2002-06-14 Thread Gerard


ON Friday, June 14, 2002, 1:19:25 AM, you wrote:

ACM I had this problem for a while and finally traced it to a couple of my
ACM filters that were set to delete incoming matches. When I changed this
ACM to moving the message to trash, it stopped. I had taken part in the
ACM thread that Januk is mentioning. The other possibility was a problem
ACM with server connections that in one persons case was firewall related.
ACM Disabling the firewall cured the problem. I don't remember what the
ACM permanent solution was.

I just received a msg from RitLabs with the changes between 1.53 and
1.60. I noticed the following:
,--- [  ]---
| [*] PC Speaker is used for beeping when moving to unread messages
| across folders (hmm, is it a good idea? :-)
`-
,--- [  ]---
| [-] An option to use the PC speaker or a sound card as beeper for
| moving between folders.
`-

I think the second has to potential to start creating the problems
mentioned here. Now if I just could find were this options is.
Does anybody know?

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Re: How to stop system stop sound?

2002-06-14 Thread Gerard


ON Friday, June 14, 2002, 10:02:38 AM, you wrote:

JBL On Friday, June 14, 2002, 8:49:07 AM, Gerard wrote:

 I think the second has to potential to start creating the problems
 mentioned here. Now if I just could find were this options is.
 Does anybody know?

JBL Options|Preferences|Message List tab.  It is the second drop down box,
JBL and one of the options related to sound, which enables the tickbox
JBL below.

Hi Julian,
 I believed that to be the tick box for the first one I mentioned.
 I am looking for the second one which must be a separate option because
 it gets a separate mention.

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Re: How to stop system stop sound?

2002-06-14 Thread Dwight A Corrin

On Friday, June 14, 2002, 2:49:07 AM, Gerard wrote:

 ,--- [  ]--- | [-] An option to use the PC speaker or a
 sound card as beeper for | moving between folders.
 `-

 I think the second has to potential to start creating the problems
 mentioned here. Now if I just could find were this options is.
 Does anybody know?

I read this to say that option was removed, hence the dash or minus
sign in the brackets?

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Re[2]: How to stop system stop sound?

2002-06-14 Thread Bill Blinn, Technology Editor

It seems that Dwight A Corrin said ...

D On Friday, June 14, 2002, 2:49:07 AM, Gerard wrote:

D I read this to say that option was removed, hence the dash or minus
D sign in the brackets?

The legend is at the top of the readme file. [-] indicates a bug has
been fixed:

[   Legend:  ]
[ + Added feature]
[ * Improved/changed feature ]
[ - Bug fixed (we hope)  ]

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Re: How to stop system stop sound?

2002-06-14 Thread Gerard


ON Friday, June 14, 2002, 6:20:01 PM, you wrote:

DAC I read this to say that option was removed, hence the dash or minus
DAC sign in the brackets?


Hi Dwight,

I just hope it doesn't mean the option to switch it of was removed :(

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Re[2]: How to stop system stop sound?

2002-06-14 Thread Alan Little

I signed up for this list after this thread started, so I can't reply
to the beginning of it.

After a little organized testing, this definitely is resulting from a
filter deleting a message, regardless of whether it is also moved to
another folder. The Windows sound it is playing is the Exclamation.
Assigning a sound to the filter in the Action tab makes no difference:
it plays the sound and then the Exclamation.

This also definitely is new behavior, as I have had some of these
filters in use for a long time and this did not start happening until
I upgraded to 1.60q today. I don't remember what version I was using
before, but I think I've kept pretty current with announced releases.

So...someone please make it stop :)

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On Friday, June 14, 2002, 1:53:32 PM, you wrote:



 ON Friday, June 14, 2002, 6:20:01 PM, you wrote:

DAC I read this to say that option was removed, hence the dash or minus
DAC sign in the brackets?


 Hi Dwight,

 I just hope it doesn't mean the option to switch it of was removed :(



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Re: How to stop system stop sound?

2002-06-13 Thread Gerard


ON Thursday, June 13, 2002, 8:06:23 AM, you wrote:

B Hi Daniel,

DG TheBat! | Account | Properties | Sound | uncheck Play sound ...

B I've done that. It makes no difference. It's not a new mail sound.
B It's something else. Like an error but there's no error message.

Hi Blarp,
 I believe it could be a filter deleting a (spma)  msg?

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Re: How to stop system stop sound?

2002-06-13 Thread Blarp

Hi Gerard,

G  I believe it could be a filter deleting a (spma)  msg?

I just checked all the active filters and none of them are set to play
any sound. The only filter I have that operates automatically on
receipt moves messages from the Inbox to other folders for sorting.
But the filters themselves don't have the Play sound action checked
off.

It's definitely something to do with the receive process
but I'll be damned if I can figure out what triggers it. It's very
annoying.

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Re: How to stop system stop sound?

2002-06-13 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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 It's definitely something to do with the receive process
 but I'll be damned if I can figure out what triggers it. It's very
 annoying.

A faint bell is ringing (unlike when you receive mail groan). I'm
remembering this happening to someone and it turning out to be related
to a firewall. Are you running one? If you're running ZoneAlarm - get
it out of there! Put in one that works without interfering with other
software. If it's not ZA, try disabling it for a bit and see if your
beeps go.

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Re: How to stop system stop sound?

2002-06-13 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)

On Thursday, June 13, 2002, 10:56:10 AM, Marck D Pearlstone wrote:

 A faint bell is ringing (unlike when you receive mail groan). I'm
 remembering this happening to someone and it turning out to be related
 to a firewall. Are you running one? If you're running ZoneAlarm - get
 it out of there! Put in one that works without interfering with other
 software. If it's not ZA, try disabling it for a bit and see if your
 beeps go.

It was discussed in a thread during May.  Try searching for the thread
called Turn off the bleeping beep in the TBUDL Archives.

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Re[2]: How to stop system stop sound?

2002-06-13 Thread DG Raftery Sr.

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Greetings Julian,

On Thursday, June 13, 2002, 6:40:41 AM, you wrote:

Julian On Thursday, June 13, 2002, 10:56:10 AM, Marck D Pearlstone wrote:

 A faint bell is ringing (unlike when you receive mail groan). I'm
 remembering this happening to someone and it turning out to be related
 to a firewall. Are you running one? If you're running ZoneAlarm - get
 it out of there! Put in one that works without interfering with other
 software. If it's not ZA, try disabling it for a bit and see if your
 beeps go.

Have you tried going into Windows Sounds and Multimedia under the Control
Panel and disabling Window's sounds, most notably ASTERISK, DEFAULT BEEP
and PROGRAM ERROR?

Try it and see if that helps. Worked here and took me about 45 minutes to
determine what the heck was beeping at me all the time.

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Re: How to stop system stop sound?

2002-06-13 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)

On Thursday, June 13, 2002, 11:58:06 AM, DG Raftery Sr. wrote:

 Have you tried going into Windows Sounds and Multimedia under the Control
 Panel and disabling Window's sounds, most notably ASTERISK, DEFAULT BEEP
 and PROGRAM ERROR?

 Try it and see if that helps. Worked here and took me about 45 minutes to
 determine what the heck was beeping at me all the time.

I am not having these problems at the moment, fortunately, but I would
not be happy about turning off system sounds, as they may be trying to
tell me about something I need to know!

I think from the last discussion that one of the possible causes is a
filter producing an error. There was a suggestion that this caused the
sound, although I have been unable to reproduce this.


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Re[2]: How to stop system stop sound?

2002-06-13 Thread Adam

Hello Blarp,

Thursday, June 13, 2002, 3:36:23 AM, you wrote:

B Hi Daniel,

DG TheBat! | Account | Properties | Sound | uncheck Play sound ...

B I've done that. It makes no difference. It's not a new mail sound.

How about the opposite? Any where I could find some good New Mail
sounds?

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Re[3]: How to stop system stop sound?

2002-06-13 Thread Britt Malka

Dear Adam,

Thursday, June 13, 2002 at 12:32:55 PM you wrote:


A How about the opposite? Any where I could find some good New Mail
A sounds?

I propose you search for .wav with Google. There is some good places
there. Here are some of those, I use.

www.wavcentral.com

www.dailywav.com

www.wavsite.com

I don't use standard mail sounds, but quotes from films.

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Re: How to stop system stop sound?

2002-06-13 Thread Blarp

Hi Julian,

JBL It was discussed in a thread during May.  Try searching for the thread
JBL called Turn off the bleeping beep in the TBUDL Archives.

I searched the thread in the archives and the only thing I could find
that might apply was a reference to changing the POP3 access timeout
(but I couldn't find the message that said how to do this).

FWIW, I am running a firewall (Tiny Personal) and it's never caused
problems with apps before. There are no filters in place that delete
messages. It is definitely the Windows Stop or error sound (thunk).

Even if I could just change the sound specifically for The Bat
(somewhat like how Lotus Organizer allows you to), that would be a
step in the right direction since it's always played at least once
during a Fetch All and usually 2 or 3 times.

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Re: How to stop system stop sound?

2002-06-13 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)

On Thursday, June 13, 2002, 6:16:16 PM, Blarp wrote:

 FWIW, I am running a firewall (Tiny Personal) and it's never caused
 problems with apps before. There are no filters in place that delete
 messages. It is definitely the Windows Stop or error sound (thunk).

The normal mail errors are Question sounds - I hear them regularly
during the day, because my ISP's mail servers often respond slower
than TB's time out.  You cannot adjust the timeout.

 Even if I could just change the sound specifically for The Bat
 (somewhat like how Lotus Organizer allows you to), that would be a
 step in the right direction since it's always played at least once
 during a Fetch All and usually 2 or 3 times.

You could submit it as a bug - there is obviously something wrong, so
TB should tell you want it is. Maybe one of the developers will know
what events generate these warnings. The URL of the Bug Report site is
at the bottom of this message.

Are you sure that it is TB generating the sound, and not some other
application that TB is affecting?

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Re: How to stop system stop sound?

2002-06-13 Thread Blarp

Hi Julian,

JBL The normal mail errors are Question sounds - I hear them regularly
JBL during the day, because my ISP's mail servers often respond slower
JBL than TB's time out.  You cannot adjust the timeout.

Shoot, that's it then. The stop sound on my setup is the same (for
some reason) as the Windows Question sound. You're right, it is the
question sound then so it could be a mail server error of some sort.

Does TB keep any detailed logs of SMTP/POP3 activity? The FETCH is not
very informative.

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Re: How to stop system stop sound?

2002-06-13 Thread Allie C Martin

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B Even if I could just change the sound specifically for The Bat
B (somewhat like how Lotus Organizer allows you to), that would be a
B step in the right direction since it's always played at least once
B during a Fetch All and usually 2 or 3 times.

I had this problem for a while and finally traced it to a couple of my
filters that were set to delete incoming matches. When I changed this
to moving the message to trash, it stopped. I had taken part in the
thread that Januk is mentioning. The other possibility was a problem
with server connections that in one persons case was firewall related.
Disabling the firewall cured the problem. I don't remember what the
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Re: How to stop system stop sound?

2002-06-13 Thread Dwight A Corrin

On Thursday, June 13, 2002, 12:47:12 PM, Julian Beach (Lists) wrote:

 The normal mail errors are Question sounds

you can change the windows question sound, and all the others it
makes. you could do them one by one and figure out which windows sound
it was (there are several which use the same sound_. you can use a theme to change all
the sounds and this would probably replace the thunk too. You could
rename a more pleasant .wav file to replace the nasty thunk sound.

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Re: How to stop system stop sound?

2002-06-12 Thread Daniel Grunberg

Tue, 11 Jun 2002 17:01:17[GMT -0700]   (8:01 PM EDST) Blarp wrote:

 The Bat! keeps making playing the annoying Windows stop sound
 (dunk) whenever I do a check/send all mail. It seems like one or two
 of the accounts are causing it but they never generate that sound when
 accessed individually. What the heck causes this? There is no error
 message in the FETCH.

For each account:

TheBat! | Account | Properties | Sound | uncheck Play sound ...


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Re: How to stop system stop sound?

2002-06-12 Thread Blarp

Hi Daniel,

DG TheBat! | Account | Properties | Sound | uncheck Play sound ...

I've done that. It makes no difference. It's not a new mail sound.
It's something else. Like an error but there's no error message.

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How to stop system stop sound?

2002-06-11 Thread Blarp

The Bat! keeps making playing the annoying Windows stop sound
(dunk) whenever I do a check/send all mail. It seems like one or two
of the accounts are causing it but they never generate that sound when
accessed individually. What the heck causes this? There is no error
message in the FETCH.

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