Re[4]: Spamfilters - Mailwasher pro

2007-07-25 Thread Tim Hamm
Hello Jim,

Have you tried Antispam Servant for TB? This filter works extremely
well and there is no need in my opinion for a third party program to
interface with TB. I have tried Mailwasher Pro and I found it's more
work than it's worth. Antispam Servant resides within TB as a plug-in
so it's transparent. Have a good one!:-)

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Tuesday, July 17, 2007, 5:21:50 PM, you wrote:

 On Tuesday, July 17, 2007, at 5:14:03 PM, Code 2 wrote:

 I like Richard's blacklist solution for .pdf attachments, but I just
 can't risk a false positive on an important e-mail. Maybe the solution is
 to filter these to an Unknown folder for periodic review. Kind of a
 nearly-Junk Mail folder.

 I've been using AntiSpam Sniper for nearly a year now, through several
 major upgrades, and it catches almost everything that comes my way. Since I
 do commercial database recovery and more than half of my business arrives
 through Email I cannot depend on whitelisting alone, and I have to make my
 address available on my web site -- but the Sniper still does a great job.

 I still check my Junk mail folder often, before deleting its content, and
 found it quite helpful to sort that message list (and just that list, no
 others) on the To address column. This makes it easy to check my two
 published addresses for possibly good mail, and lets me skip over all the
 spam that's addressed to others but has me on a BCC list...




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Spamfilters - Mailwasher pro

2007-07-17 Thread Tony
Hello tbudl,

I'm looking into some anti-spam solutions
MailWasher Pro looks like something useful but has one major flaw. If it can't 
be 'fixed' I wouldn't even want it for free... :P
The problem is that I doesn't work as a proxy. I have to switch of auto mail 
checking in The Bat and let MailWasher do the checking.
When done checking it can launch The Bat!
If the Bat isn't loaded it successfully starts and does its 'check mail at 
startup' but The Bat! is always loaded on my PC.
If The Bat is already open nothing seems to happen.
However the solution might be I can add a command line option. Is there a 
command line option that forces a mail check?
Something like: thebat.exe -CheckMailNow

Besides of the above I would really appreciate some idea's for a good anti spam 
solution.
I prefer proxy type of setups.
I spend a lot of time with Baysian type of filtering but that didn't work out 
very well with the picture spam.
I do prefer using those online anti-spam databases




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Re: Spamfilters - Mailwasher pro

2007-07-17 Thread Code 2
T I'm looking into some anti-spam solutions MailWasher Pro looks like
T something useful but has one major flaw. If it can't be 'fixed' I
T wouldn't even want it for free... :P The problem is that I doesn't
T work as a proxy. I have to switch of auto mail checking in The Bat
T and let MailWasher do the checking. When done checking it can
T launch The Bat! If the Bat isn't loaded it successfully starts and
T does its 'check mail at startup' but The Bat! is always loaded on
T my PC. If The Bat is already open nothing seems to happen. However
T the solution might be I can add a command line option. Is there a
T command line option that forces a mail check? Something like:
T thebat.exe -CheckMailNow

T Besides of the above I would really appreciate some idea's for a good anti 
spam solution.
T I prefer proxy type of setups.
T I spend a lot of time with Baysian type of filtering but that
T didn't work out very well with the picture spam.
T I do prefer using those online anti-spam databases


For online services, SpamPal works well with The Bat!, although the
application itself hasn't been updated for more than a year.  I expect
the databases it refers to are updated regularly.  The only reason I
switched away from it was that access to the databases seemed to be
slowing.

You said you don't like the Baysian filters and I was of that same
opinion for a long time.  However, I started using the AntispamSniper
plug-in for the The Bat! five or six months ago and have been very
pleased.  It is fast, easy to train and very reliable.  It has been
98.6% accurate for the last four months, with only 0.2% false
positives.  If it wasn't for those darn spammers sending blank
messages with .pdf spam attachments lately, I expect it would be well
over 99% accurate.

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Re: Spamfilters - Mailwasher pro

2007-07-17 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello Code,

On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

C2 If it wasn't for those darn spammers sending blank
C2 messages with .pdf spam attachments lately, I expect it would be well
C2 over 99% accurate.

Here's what the author has just posted in the forum. Maybe that'll help
you:

Add the mask pdf to the black list of attachment types (Filtering |
Attachments | File types). Only whitelisted senders will be able to send
to you PDF documents in this case. The messages from unknown senders
with PDF in attachment will be blocked.

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Re: Spamfilters - Mailwasher pro

2007-07-17 Thread Tony
Hello Richard,

Tuesday, July 17, 2007, 11:10:37 PM, you wrote:

RW Hello Code,

RW On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 you wrote in
RW mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

C2 If it wasn't for those darn spammers sending blank
C2 messages with .pdf spam attachments lately, I expect it would be well
C2 over 99% accurate.

RW Here's what the author has just posted in the forum. Maybe that'll help
RW you:

RW Add the mask pdf to the black list of attachment types (Filtering |
RW Attachments | File types). Only whitelisted senders will be able to send
RW to you PDF documents in this case. The messages from unknown senders
RW with PDF in attachment will be blocked.


I'm sure you/the author is right.
But that forces us/me to the white list path.
In that case I would even need a spam filter.
I would use the filters of TB! to blacklist everything except a personal 
whitelist. :-)
That said ideal spamfilters with whitelists don't exist.





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Re: Spamfilters - Mailwasher pro

2007-07-17 Thread Tony
Hello Code,

Tuesday, July 17, 2007, 10:46:48 PM, you wrote:

T I'm looking into some anti-spam solutions MailWasher Pro looks like
T something useful but has one major flaw. If it can't be 'fixed' I
T wouldn't even want it for free... :P The problem is that I doesn't
T work as a proxy. I have to switch of auto mail checking in The Bat
T and let MailWasher do the checking. When done checking it can
T launch The Bat! If the Bat isn't loaded it successfully starts and
T does its 'check mail at startup' but The Bat! is always loaded on
T my PC. If The Bat is already open nothing seems to happen. However
T the solution might be I can add a command line option. Is there a
T command line option that forces a mail check? Something like:
T thebat.exe -CheckMailNow

T Besides of the above I would really appreciate some idea's for a good anti 
spam solution.
T I prefer proxy type of setups.
T I spend a lot of time with Baysian type of filtering but that
T didn't work out very well with the picture spam.
T I do prefer using those online anti-spam databases


C2 For online services, SpamPal works well with The Bat!, although the
C2 application itself hasn't been updated for more than a year.  I expect
C2 the databases it refers to are updated regularly.  The only reason I
C2 switched away from it was that access to the databases seemed to be
C2 slowing.

C2 You said you don't like the Baysian filters and I was of that same
C2 opinion for a long time.  However, I started using the AntispamSniper
C2 plug-in for the The Bat! five or six months ago and have been very
C2 pleased.  It is fast, easy to train and very reliable.  It has been
C2 98.6% accurate for the last four months, with only 0.2% false
C2 positives.  If it wasn't for those darn spammers sending blank
C2 messages with .pdf spam attachments lately, I expect it would be well
C2 over 99% accurate.



Perhaps I should have said taht I don't prefer Baysian filters.
I've used K9 and Spampal for a long time. Both use Baysian filers.
Both gave good results. SpamPal a bit better because of the RNBL (?) database.
Both let me down with 'picture spam'
I searched for hours on the SpamPal forum for regex rules.
The picture spam with just a picture was fairly successful filtered.
But the new generation picture spam with book quotes was/is a absolute disaster.
And yes the RNBL access was slow. I don't know why.
I'm using an about to expire demo of AVG internet suite.
It's spamfilter is perfect!
Unfortunately it costs $60/year and I only require the spamfilter part.
I already have an other anti-virus tool for example.
Perhaps SpamPal has just a bad choice of RNBL lists?
And as you say it hasn't been updated for a year.
I think it's almost 2 years now because I usally don't count beta releases.
(but that just personal)
Frankly I would care if it as 100 years old. But with spammers evolving the 
spamfighters need to evolve too.
And regEx is way above my head.

AntiSpamSniper.
I'll put that on my todo list.
Was is/it performing well with picture spam? Or where you along the happy few 
that didn't receive 50 stockmarket picture spams a day.
Those guys are busted according to a news article. Not that it matters because 
Now the subject just changed to Viagra and loans.
As for .pdf attachments I have bad news for you. Statistics show that that type 
of spam is growing rapidly.
BTW AVG did catch all of those picture and pdf spams.
So it is possible. There is hope!


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Re: Spamfilters - Mailwasher pro

2007-07-17 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello Tony,

On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

T I'm sure you/the author is right.
T But that forces us/me to the white list path.
T In that case I would even need a spam filter.

Fair enough, I can understand your reticence. I was actually replying to
Code2's post but it doesn't make it any the less relevant to you though.
I have found Antispansniper to be a very reliable add on to TheBat! I've
only had 5 false positives out of nearly 16,000 messages since I started
using it. Not a bad percentage I think, and the pdf filter has already
worked.

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Re: Spamfilters - Mailwasher pro

2007-07-17 Thread Tony
Hello Richard,

Tuesday, July 17, 2007, 11:53:16 PM, you wrote:

RW Hello Tony,

RW On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 you wrote in
RW mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

T I'm sure you/the author is right.
T But that forces us/me to the white list path.
T In that case I would even need a spam filter.

RW Fair enough, I can understand your reticence. I was actually replying to
RW Code2's post but it doesn't make it any the less relevant to you though.
RW I have found Antispansniper to be a very reliable add on to TheBat! I've
RW only had 5 false positives out of nearly 16,000 messages since I started
RW using it. Not a bad percentage I think, and the pdf filter has already
RW worked.

Thanks for your replies Richard.
I've installed AntispamSniper 15 minutes ago.
To short to give real comments about it but at first sight it seems to have 
everything I need.
That combined with your poitive comments and a quite lively support forum I 
have good hopes

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Re[2]: Spamfilters - Mailwasher pro

2007-07-17 Thread Code 2
T AntiSpamSniper.
T I'll put that on my todo list.
T Was is/it performing well with picture spam? Or where you along
T the happy few that didn't receive 50 stockmarket picture spams a
T day.
T Those guys are busted according to a news article. Not that it
T matters because Now the subject just changed to Viagra and loans.
T As for .pdf attachments I have bad news for you. Statistics
T show that that type of spam is growing rapidly.
T BTW AVG did catch all of those picture and pdf spams.
T So it is possible. There is hope!


I get dozens of the .gif and .gif/html spam messages each week and
AntispamSniper is 100% accurate with those.

Interestingly, the volume of my stock tip spam has lessened
considerably since the SEC launched its Operation Spamalot.  However,
I still get stock tip spam in plain text format originating from Asia.
AntispamSniper has no problems handling that either.

I like Richard's blacklist solution for .pdf attachments, but I just
can't risk a false positive on an important e-mail.  Maybe the
solution is to filter these to an Unknown folder for periodic
review.  Kind of a nearly-Junk Mail folder.

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Re[3]: Spamfilters - Mailwasher pro

2007-07-17 Thread Jim Kyle
On Tuesday, July 17, 2007, at 5:14:03 PM, Code 2 wrote:

 I like Richard's blacklist solution for .pdf attachments, but I just
 can't risk a false positive on an important e-mail. Maybe the solution is
 to filter these to an Unknown folder for periodic review. Kind of a
 nearly-Junk Mail folder.

I've been using AntiSpam Sniper for nearly a year now, through several
major upgrades, and it catches almost everything that comes my way. Since I
do commercial database recovery and more than half of my business arrives
through Email I cannot depend on whitelisting alone, and I have to make my
address available on my web site -- but the Sniper still does a great job.

I still check my Junk mail folder often, before deleting its content, and
found it quite helpful to sort that message list (and just that list, no
others) on the To address column. This makes it easy to check my two
published addresses for possibly good mail, and lets me skip over all the
spam that's addressed to others but has me on a BCC list...

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Re: Spamfilters - Mailwasher pro

2007-07-17 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello Tony,

On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

T I've installed AntispamSniper 15 minutes ago.

I don't think you'll regret it and the author answers questions in the
forum, normally the same day, should you have any problems.

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Re: Mailwasher Pro

2005-03-24 Thread Mica Mijatovic
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 ~( __ _o   Was another beautiful day, Tue, 25 Jan 2005,
   @  @  at 17:15:39 -0800, when George Mitchell wrote:

 Mica Mijatovic wrote:

MM I mean, I can't see what's wrong if you delete automatically *all*
MM SPAM right from the server, without doing anything else, including
MM the rummage over and over over downloaded garbage, in order to
MM possibly find a misinterpreted jewel. (-:

 My take on spam filtering is that it is unacceptable for me to lose a
 single legitimate message to an overeager filter.  POPFile rarely
 misclassifies a legitimate message as spam, but it does happen.  I
 gave BayesFilter about a week, and it didn't do a very good job at
 all.  No way would I trust it to make a decision to delete a message.

George, I wrote in this message you response here to, the next part:

I'll give to myself yet few days more, since I still cannot perceive a
flexibility in doing more instead less, and less effectively instead
more effectively. (:

It was on Tue, 25 Jan 2005 20:50:57 +0100. So, I indeed gave myself time
to reconsider thing, and may now freely say, and with my heart full, and
my conscience 'clean', that a message which is not properly addressed to
you is *not* a legitimate message. So, your fear is unnecessary and
unjustifiable.

It, of course, doesn't mean that I have something *against* your ways
and methods, or simply habits. You may proceed with worrying
unnecessarily and in spending your precious time in the way you are
accustomed too. (-:

(All our habits are actually engraved in in our ne{ural|rvous} system,
and they need some tome to be re-written|modeled, whence we became aware
of a such need. It is somewhat unpleasant process sometimes, and
sometimes it even hurts (ouch!) a bit. When is the moment in our
precious life times when we'll *do* something or not, remains a
mystery for many.)

Your fellow Batty colleague. (-:

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Re: Mailwasher Pro

2005-01-25 Thread Mica Mijatovic
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 Mica Mijatovic wrote:

MM I may affirm too, that K9 is really fine and effective, but am
MM just wandering why people use any additional software for such
MM purpose, when TB already has very good filtering means.

 Flexibility.  I played with BayesFilter for about a week, and as I
 recall my only options for spam were to delete them or move them to a
 Junk Mail folder.  With POPFile, I have filters set up such that if I
 get a message from a contact of mine that's misidentified as spam, it
 ends up in the correct folder for that contact (mailing list, etc.)
 but with a struck-through font in the message list.  This greatly
 reduces the chances I'll overlook such a message, but makes it obvious
 it was misclassified.

I'll give to myself yet few days more, since I still cannot perceive a
flexibility in doing more instead less, and less effectively instead
more effectively. (:

I mean, I can't see what's wrong if you delete automatically *all* SPAM
right from the server, without doing anything else, including the
rummage over and over over downloaded garbage, in order to possibly find
a misinterpreted jewel. (-:

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Re: Mailwasher Pro

2005-01-25 Thread George Mitchell
Mica Mijatovic wrote:

MM I mean, I can't see what's wrong if you delete automatically *all*
MM SPAM right from the server, without doing anything else, including
MM the rummage over and over over downloaded garbage, in order to
MM possibly find a misinterpreted jewel. (-:

My take on spam filtering is that it is unacceptable for me to lose a
single legitimate message to an overeager filter.  POPFile rarely
misclassifies a legitimate message as spam, but it does happen.  I
gave BayesFilter about a week, and it didn't do a very good job at
all.  No way would I trust it to make a decision to delete a message.

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Re: Mailwasher Pro

2005-01-17 Thread Melissa Reese
Hi John,

On Sunday, January 16, 2005, at 12:55:58 PM PST, you wrote:

 IMO K9 is the best of the lot, and free as well.

I use K9 as well, and I'm very happy with it. Just out of curiosity, I
recently tried the latest version of the BayesIt plug-in, but I got
tired of moving good emails back to their proper folders during the
initial training (got too frustrated with this, so I just removed it
and continued to use K9, which is now working at about 99.5% accuracy,
with no false positives).

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Re: Mailwasher Pro

2005-01-17 Thread Darrin Rich
Hello John,

Sunday, January 16, 2005, 12:55:58 PM, you wrote:

JP IMO K9 is the best of the lot, and free as well.

Looks like mailwasher pro does more than I actually want or need. I
may be going back to K9, it does basically what I need and is very
light on resources.

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Re: Mailwasher Pro

2005-01-17 Thread Mica Mijatovic
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 ~( __ _o   Was another beautiful day, Mon, 17 Jan 2005,
   @  @  at 02:37:59 -0800, when Melissa Reese wrote:

 Hi John,

 On Sunday, January 16, 2005, at 12:55:58 PM PST, you wrote:

 IMO K9 is the best of the lot, and free as well.

 I use K9 as well, and I'm very happy with it. Just out of curiosity, I
 recently tried the latest version of the BayesIt plug-in, but I got
 tired of moving good emails back to their proper folders during the
 initial training (got too frustrated with this, so I just removed it
 and continued to use K9, which is now working at about 99.5% accuracy,
 with no false positives).

I am not very willing to push my technologies, or to, god forbid,
impose them, but allow me please, all of you, to brag a bit again: ALL
the spam I have the rare honor, and a subtle pleasure, to give the Axe
to, to say so, even without downloading it, but just using TB's
Selective Download filters.

I may affirm too, that K9 is really fine and effective, but am just
wandering why people use any additional software for such purpose, when
TB already has very good filtering means.

Judging by TB's LOG, on my digital doors, and not so rarely on windows
as well, as at the doggy slot too, appears about at least 66% (or 2/3)
of a pure spam, coming to this address of mine, and about 66% (or 2/3)
of these 66% (or 2/3) are those of 30-40 KB with fat sick viruses
inside. Now, if I had to *download* all this [B]eautiful [S]tuff first,
and *then* to have it sorted out, I would probably end without a single
hair on(in?) my head, in few days, although I have it just for few
washings yet (as a friend of mine would have a habit to say, expressing
his worry, or a concern, about something he experiences as a wooly
situation, or as possibly such one).

To be honest, I still receive, here and there, one (1, Ein, uno) spam
message (the skinny one) per 2 or 3 days, in my Inbox, but it's only
because I didn't yet tighten my SD rules.

I had just one false positive, few months ago, when omitted to type my
own address correctly in a (n SD) filter rule. g

Actually, I praise here (using my limited {li|to}ngual inability) the
greatness of TB's filters. (-:

I will not bother you (all) anymore. Soon. I allow myself only one of
such letters per month. (Discipline and self-control is mother/niece of
vast attainments.)

On this list.

Now I have to go for pancakes.

With sweet brier marmalade.

Let the Smile be with you. (-: Shine like the sun and have a good
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Re: Mailwasher Pro

2005-01-17 Thread George Mitchell
Mica Mijatovic wrote:

MM I may affirm too, that K9 is really fine and effective, but am
MM just wandering why people use any additional software for such
MM purpose, when TB already has very good filtering means.

Flexibility.  I played with BayesFilter for about a week, and as I
recall my only options for spam were to delete them or move them to a
Junk Mail folder.  With POPFile, I have filters set up such that if I
get a message from a contact of mine that's misidentified as spam, it
ends up in the correct folder for that contact (mailing list, etc.)
but with a struck-through font in the message list.  This greatly
reduces the chances I'll overlook such a message, but makes it obvious
it was misclassified.

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Mailwasher Pro

2005-01-16 Thread Darrin Rich
Hello TBUDL,

  Anyone use this with TB? Having good results? I decided to give it a
  try.

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Re: Mailwasher Pro

2005-01-16 Thread Andrew
Hello Darrin,

Sunday, January 16, 2005, 11:07:34 AM, you wrote and sent the following:

   Anyone use this with TB? Having good results? I decided to give it a
   try.

For a long long time... It shouldn't interfere with anything. It is
sort of its own POP mail client. I leave it open most of the time, and
use TB to pull down the mail later.

btw, have you looked at these filters:
http://www.w5hq.com/MailWasher/


They work great for me, in fact I really don't worry about blacklist
servers anymore between those and Bayesian filtering. 

You know bouncing is a bad thing, and ought to be removed from the
product (most return addresses are spoofed for starters)? 


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Re: Mailwasher Pro

2005-01-16 Thread Darrin Rich
Hello Andrew,

Sunday, January 16, 2005, 8:27:53 AM, you wrote:

A For a long long time... It shouldn't interfere with anything.
A It is
A sort of its own POP mail client. I leave it open most of the
A time, and
A use TB to pull down the mail later.


Thanks. Im going to check that and Spamihilator program and see which
one works good for me. Right now Im liking spamihilator.

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Re: Mailwasher Pro

2005-01-16 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Darrin,

  A reminder of what Darrin Rich on TBUDL typed on:
  Sunday, January 16, 2005 at 17:08:35 GMT +0100

DR Anyone use this with TB? Having good results? I decided to give it a
DR   try.

 I used it and it is very good, one of the better ones.


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Re: Mailwasher Pro

2005-01-16 Thread John Phillips

Hi Darrin,
On Sun, 16 Jan 2005, at 08:07:34 [GMT-0800] (which was Mon, 3:07:34
Australian Eastern Time) you wrote:



 Anyone use this with TB? Having good results? I decided to give it a
   try.


IMO K9 is the best of the lot, and free as well.

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Mailwasher Pro Thebat

2004-08-03 Thread Darrin Rich
Hello,

  Any users of Mailwasher Pro with TB! here? Just curious about how it
  works with TB!. Good and bad experiences.
  
 
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Re: Mailwasher Pro Thebat

2004-08-03 Thread danger
Hello Darrin,

Tuesday, August 3, 2004, 2:34:45 PM, you wrote:

DR Hello,

DR   Any users of Mailwasher Pro with TB! here? Just curious about how it
DR   works with TB!. Good and bad experiences.
  
 

Works Fine for me on 4.1.7.5

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Re: Mailwasher Pro Thebat

2004-08-03 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Darrin!

On Tuesday, August 03, 2004, 1:34 PM, you wrote:

DR Any users of Mailwasher Pro with TB! here? ...

I used MailWasher Pro before I ever got The Bat! I still have it on my
machine, but it's only as a back-up in case anything (I hope nothing
and never) should cause me to have to go back to Outlook Express
temporarily.

I ran MailWasher Pro with The Bat! for awhile. No problems. But I
don't do that any more. It's redundant, in my opinion--I can do
everything that MailWasher does using The Bat! all by itself.
 
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Re: Mailwasher Pro Thebat

2004-08-03 Thread Darrin Rich
Hi Mary,
On 8/3/2004 12:43 PM my time, Mary wrote:
MB I ran MailWasher Pro with The Bat! for awhile. No problems. But I
MB don't do that any more. It's redundant, in my opinion--I can do
MB everything that MailWasher does using The Bat! all by itself.


Thanks for the input. I havent installed it myself, so Im unaware of
its features.
 
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Re: Mailwasher Pro Thebat

2004-08-03 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Darrin!

On Tuesday, August 03, 2004, 2:55 PM, you wrote:

MB I ran MailWasher Pro with The Bat! for awhile. ...

DR Thanks for the input. I havent installed it myself, so Im unaware of
DR its features.
 
Basically MailWasher lets you manage your POP3 mail on the server. The
Bat! also has that capability.

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Re: Mailwasher Pro Thebat

2004-08-03 Thread Darrin Rich
Hi Mary,
On 8/3/2004 1:06 PM my time, Mary wrote:
MB Basically MailWasher lets you manage your POP3 mail on the server. The
MB Bat! also has that capability.


Ok, I see. Thanks for clearing that up. Save me a download there :p
 
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Re: Mailwasher Pro Thebat

2004-08-03 Thread Darrin Rich
Hi Simon,
On 8/3/2004 2:48 PM my time, Simon wrote:
SF Mailwasher [4.1.7.5] not only checks the mail on the server [POP or
SF IMAP] but also has White/Blacklist, Bayesian Filtering/Learning,
SF Blacklist (e.g. sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org) checking and lastly their own
SF Spam Altert service titled First Alert which is a £3.50 (UK Pounds)a
SF year subscription service contianing details of known and identified
SF Spam.

Many features. I might have to download a trial version to see it. Can
Domains be deleted from server just using TB! by itself? I know I can
delete specific senders.

SF I've had superb 99.9% results with K9, but, I'm running Mailwasher
SF right now and can vouch for it's Spam detection abilities too
Ive also experimented with K9. Very pleased with the spam detection.



 
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Re: Mailwasher Pro Thebat

2004-08-03 Thread Iain D. Brown
Darrin wrote:

DR Any users of Mailwasher Pro with TB! here? ...

Mary replied:

 I ran MailWasher Pro with The Bat! for awhile. No problems. But I
 don't do that any more. It's redundant, in my opinion--I can do
 everything that MailWasher does using The Bat! all by itself.
 
I use MailWasher and The Bat, successfully, too. However, I find
Mary's comment interesting in that I use MW to look at my mail on
the server and delete it there: saves me having to download 100+
spam messages needlessly.

I take it, Mary, that you aren't bothered about downloading spam?
(Not that this is an implied criticism, note!)

Best wishes,

Iain.

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Re: Mailwasher Pro Thebat

2004-08-03 Thread malexander
Hello Simon,

SF Mailwasher [4.1.7.5] not only checks the mail on the server [POP
SF or IMAP] but also has White/Blacklist, Bayesian
SF Filtering/Learning, Blacklist (e.g. sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org) checking
SF and lastly their own Spam Altert service titled First Alert
SF which is a £3.50 (UK Pounds)a year subscription service contianing
SF details of known and identified Spam.

SF I've had superb 99.9% results with K9, but, I'm running Mailwasher
SF right now and can vouch for it's Spam detection abilities too


And I can second that.   It's worth the money for the First Alert
system alone where thousands of users are reporting spam back to a
central server. The upshot is that most of the spam I get is already
marked Known Spam and deleted before it even gets to the Bat. Using
Mailwasher, hardly any spam at all gets through and most of it is
marked deletion when it arrives in Mailwasher.  It's much more
effective, as far as I'm concerned, than filtering using the Bat.

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Re: Mailwasher Pro Thebat

2004-08-03 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Iain!

On Tuesday, August 03, 2004, 4:58 PM, you wrote:

IDB I use MailWasher and The Bat, successfully, too. However, I find
IDB Mary's comment interesting in that I use MW to look at my mail on
IDB the server and delete it there: saves me having to download 100+
IDB spam messages needlessly.

That's what I do with The Bat!'s Dispatcher--I look at each mail's
headers and manually mark for download the ones I want. The rest are
deleted on the server.

IDB I take it, Mary, that you aren't bothered about downloading spam?

I never download Spam. Admittedly, I am lucky, I get offered, at most,
one or two Spams a day. This week Ive been offered three of those
lists of nonsense words, which I understand are an attempt at
propagating an e-mail virus.

The needs of business users and people who get more mail than I do may
be different.

On principle, I am against blacklists and bouncing mail. I think the
best course is to simply delete unwanted mail. I can't remember an
unwanted advertisement getting through to me since my latest change of
address (to go on broadband). And before that it was a rare occasion
to receive Spam here. (I like to get Amazon's announcements that
they've shipped my books or DVDS. :) )

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Re: Mailwasher Pro Thebat

2004-08-03 Thread Darrin Rich
Hi malexander,
On 8/3/2004 2:59 PM my time, malexander wrote:
m And I can second that.   It's worth the money for the First Alert
m system alone where thousands of users are reporting spam back to a
m central server. The upshot is that most of the spam I get is already
m marked Known Spam and deleted before it even gets to the Bat. Using
m Mailwasher, hardly any spam at all gets through and most of it is
m marked deletion when it arrives in Mailwasher.  It's much more
m effective, as far as I'm concerned, than filtering using the Bat.


Thanks. I have a better understanding of the first alert now. Im going
to read up on it a bit more at the website.
 
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Re: Mailwasher Pro Thebat

2004-08-03 Thread Plan9
Tuesday, August 3, 2004, 5:59:50 PM, malexander wrote:

malexander And I can second that. It's worth the money for the First
malexander Alert system alone where thousands of users are reporting
malexander spam back to a central server. The upshot is that most of
malexander the spam I get is already marked Known Spam and deleted
malexander before it even gets to the Bat. Using Mailwasher, hardly
malexander any spam at all gets through and most of it is marked
malexander deletion when it arrives in Mailwasher. It's much more
malexander effective, as far as I'm concerned, than filtering using
malexander the Bat.

Bellsouth is my ISP and I use their mail servers and their MailGard
option. So far it has caught almost all of the spam that shows up in
my mailbox. Maybe one a day gets through. Out of 350 spam messages in
three days only one made it to TheBat!, knock on wood (as he raps
himself beside the head with his knuckles). The rest were dealt with
on the server by MailGard where I have the option of viewing them to
make sure none were really ham or letting the process delete
them automatically. I have no idea what MailGard is, but it works.

I tried BayesFilters and BayesIt out of curiosity for a while, but
they were much more work and no better than the filter provided by
Bellsouth.

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Re: Mailwasher Pro Thebat

2004-08-03 Thread Anna
Hi, Darrin,

DR   Any users of Mailwasher Pro with TB! here? Just curious about how it
DR   works with TB!. Good and bad experiences.
  
I'm using the earlier free Mailwasher with TB (I haven't upgraded
because the free version does all I want it to do). It worked
seamlessly until recently, when I started having the send-mail
problems I've been complaining about for days. It still works
well, but there are a couple of glitches I can't seem to get rid
of.

For me, being able to delete suspect messages from the server and
not even download them is a big plus. :)

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Re: Mailwasher Pro Thebat

2004-08-03 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Anna!

On Tuesday, August 03, 2004, 6:44 PM, you wrote:

A For me, being able to delete suspect messages from the server and
A not even download them is a big plus. :)

That is exactly what The Bat!'s Message Dispatcher lets me do. :)

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Re: Mailwasher Pro Thebat

2004-08-03 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Ian!

On Tuesday, August 03, 2004, 7:55 PM, you wrote:

MB That is exactly what The Bat!'s Message Dispatcher lets me do. :)

IAW The problem with the Message Dispatcher is that it does not classify
IAW the messages based on the filters. Mailwasher does and by sorting on
IAW the status, the filtered messages are grouped ...

I see. As I wrote in an earlier post, my method will probably not suit
many people. I like to look at my messages chronologically. And I like
to examine the headers on each one.

Then I decide what to download and what to delete. Most of my mail is
from the three TB! lists I'm subscribed to, plus tbot, plus a
scattering of mail from family and personal friends.

It's rare for me to have more than 100 mails at a time to look
at--usually it's 20 to 50. It is rare for me to see a Spam or a
suspicious virus-trojan looking mail among them. I have the time and
the inclination to do it this way.

I'm most grateful that The Bat! affords me this capability.

When I get my mail filtered to its various folders, I still don't read
by threads. I read the mail in each folder chronologically, oldest to
latest.

But that's just me. Everyone else's mileage obviously varies.

And that's the beauty of The Bat!--it's so flexible, to meet a variety
of different needs, and it works well with so many other good
programs, like MailWasher.

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Re: Mailwasher

2002-12-22 Thread Clive Taylor
22 December 2002, 05:03, you wrote:

RW I keep my mail on the server for 5 days just in case and
RW Mailwasher gets all messages each time it logs on

It's working as designed. Mailwasher is looking at messages on the
server and if you're keeping them there, then it will download the
headers!

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Re: Mailwasher

2002-12-22 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello Clive,

On Sun, 22 Dec 2002 at 08:13:16[GMT +](which was 08:13 where I
live) you wrote:

 It's working as designed. Mailwasher is looking at messages on the
 server and if you're keeping them there, then it will download the
 headers!

Oh. Thanks.

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Mailwasher

2002-12-21 Thread Richard Wakeford
Hello,

After favourable reports I'm giving Mailwasher programme a try but one
thing I can't find any information about. I keep my mail on the server
for 5 days just in case and Mailwasher gets all messages each time it
logs on, not exactly an efficient way to work!

Is there a way to make it ignore messages that it has already looked
at or have I missed something glaringly obvious?  

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Re[2]: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)

2002-06-20 Thread Daniel van Rooijen [CopyCats]


Hi Marck,

Your SpamCop filters work great now. I've reported 32 spammers so far
in just two days (should I be glad or sad? :)

I haven't had any responses from ISP's yet. From what I understand,
SpamCop will forward those to me. I was thinking that maybe I should
use the comment field in the reports to inform the spammer that it was
me who turned them in, and that they'd better take me off their
mailing lists or I'll do it again. What do you think? They might
bombard me with hate mail instead :)

In closing: Whenever spamcop.bat is run, it leaves a DOS window on my
screen that has to be closed manually. I just solved this minor
annoyance by putting @echo off as the first line in the template for
Spamcop.bat.

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Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)

2002-06-20 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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@21 June 2002, 02:11:23 +0200 (01:11 UK time) Daniel van Rooijen
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 In closing: Whenever spamcop.bat is run, it leaves a DOS window on my
 screen that has to be closed manually. I just solved this minor
 annoyance by putting @echo off as the first line in the template for
 Spamcop.bat.

Another method is to look at the Properties of the remaining
(finished) DOS window and check Close window when finished (is that
what it's called?). It will remember that setting for next time.

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Re[2]: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)

2002-06-18 Thread Daniel van Rooijen [CopyCats]


Hi Marck,

  All such bounce messages do, no matter how well intentioned or formed,
  is inform the spammer that the message got through.

Oh boy..

Thanks for the enlightenment!! :)

I'm now trying those Spamcop filters from the TB FAQ, but I'm not sure if
they work as intended. Here's what I found:

- Shouldn't the first stage filter (that creates a spam submission
message) be set to manual only? Wouldn't it otherwise automatically
respond to any incoming message that fulfills the criterion of having
a '.' in its kludges? Of course the Ctrl-Alt-S trigger is also set,
but I don't know if that will override automatic execution..

- The file to export to (C:\TEMP\EXPORT.TXT) was set correctly when I
pasted the filter into the sorting office, but the Export to File
action itself was not activated. Also, append to existing file was
set, which I think will inadvertently report any previously sent spam
along with the current spam message. I've changed that into
overwrite. The export format was Text, is that alright? The quote
kludges was Off, and I've turned that on.

I hope I made the correct changes (and if so, maybe the author of the
filter should update this FAQ section?). I'm using TB 1.60q.

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Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)

2002-06-18 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Daniel,

@18 June 2002, 14:38:09 +0200 (13:38 UK time) Daniel van Rooijen
[CopyCats] wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Thanks for the enlightenment!! :)

A pleasure :-)

 I'm now trying those Spamcop filters from the TB FAQ, but I'm not
 sure if they work as intended. Here's what I found:

 - Shouldn't the first stage filter (that creates a spam submission
 message) be set to manual only? Wouldn't it otherwise
 automatically respond to any incoming message that fulfills the
 criterion of having a '.' in its kludges?

Yes it would!

 Of course the Ctrl-Alt-S trigger is also set, but I don't know if
 that will override automatic execution..

Yes - it should be manual. It actually has the faoManualOnly flag
and should be pasted as a manual filter. Perhaps there's a bug in the
filter paste function?

 - The file to export to (C:\TEMP\EXPORT.TXT) was set correctly when
 I pasted the filter into the sorting office, but the Export to
 File action itself was not activated. Also, append to existing
 file was set, which I think will inadvertently report any
 previously sent spam along with the current spam message. I've
 changed that into overwrite. The export format was Text, is that
 alright? The quote kludges was Off, and I've turned that on.

Again, the filter source says:

faExport,faoExportOver,faoExportKludges

All of which seem to have failed to import correctly :-(.

 I hope I made the correct changes (and if so, maybe the author of
 the filter should update this FAQ section?).

Who, me? (I am both the author of the filter and the maintainer of the
FAQ g). I'll have to annotate the filter to say that it may not
import correctly. What a pain!

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Re[2]: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)

2002-06-18 Thread Daniel van Rooijen [CopyCats]

Hi Marck,

MDP I always report to SpamCop (there are some nice filters for doing
MDP this published on the FAQ)

The second stage filter doesn't work right for me either.. it finds
the incoming confirmation from Spamcop, then exports the whole message to
spamcop.bat and tries to execute it! :)  The error seems to be in
the export template, which looks like:

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
From:#OFromName #OFromAddr
To:  #OToName #OToAddr
Date:#ODateEn, #OTimeLongEn
Subject: #OSubj
Files:   #Attachments
--===--
#Text
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

(I have replaced the % signs by # to prevent execution within this message)

I suspect there's some incompatibility between these SpamCop filters
(from http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/howdoi.html) and TB 1.60q.

Do you have a working version of the export template for spamcop.bat?

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Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)

2002-06-18 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Daniel,

@18 June 2002, 14:38:09 +0200 (13:38 UK time) Daniel van Rooijen
[CopyCats] wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 ... The export format was Text, is that alright?

Just spotted this - no, it should be Unix. What a pig's ear! :-(

(not your fault at all).

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Re[2]: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)

2002-06-18 Thread Daniel van Rooijen [CopyCats]


Hi Marck,

MDP Perhaps there's a bug in the filter paste function?

Or I have missed something, so don't redo the filters just yet..

I couldn't find a Paste button or anything like it in the Sorting
Office, so I simply pressed Ctrl-V.

Have I been stupid again?  O :-)

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Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)

2002-06-18 Thread Matthias Appel

Marck D Pearlstone [MDP] wrote:

MDP All of which seem to have failed to import correctly :-(.

Ehm. Someone else already mentioned (maybe on the german mailing
lists) that this problems are caused by some unwanted linebreaks on
the faq page.

1st Filter: after Actions
2nd Filter: after SaveTemplate

If you paste the filters in your text editor and remove the linebreaks
everything works fine.


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Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)

2002-06-18 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Daniel,

@18 June 2002, 15:15:27 +0200 (14:15 UK time) Daniel van Rooijen
[CopyCats] wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

MDP Perhaps there's a bug in the filter paste function?

 Or I have missed something, so don't redo the filters just yet..

 I couldn't find a Paste button or anything like it in the Sorting
 Office, so I simply pressed Ctrl-V.

 Have I been stupid again?  O :-)

Nope. You done good! The How to says to use Ctrl-V. Actually, I just
tried it and it's completely hit and miss! Sometimes it pastes 100%
correctly, sometimes not. Here they are again:

,-=[ Ctrl-Alt-S Filter ]-
  BeginFilter
  Name: Submit spam to SpamCop
  Source: \Inbox
  Target: \Trash
  CopyFolder: none
  MainSet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Actions: 
faMarkRead,faNewMsg,faExport,faoExportOver,faoExportKludges,faoManualOnly,faoHotKey,faoSaveUnix
  NewAddr: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  NewTemplate: %put\3D\27C:\5Ctemp\5Cexport.txt\27\0D\0A
  ExtFile: C:\temp\export.txt
  HotKey: 49235
  EndFilter
`

,-=[ Spamcop reply Intercept ]-
  BeginFilter
  Name: SpamCop AutoResponder
  Source: \Inbox
  Target: \Trash
  CopyFolder: none
  MainSet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  MainSet: 20SpamCop has accepted
  Actions: faMarkRead,faExport,faExternal,faoExportOver,faoWaitCompletion
  ExtCmd: C:\temp\spamcop.bat
  ExtFile: C:\temp\spamcop.bat
  SaveTemplate:
  
\22c:\5CProgram\20Files\5CInternet\20Explorer\5CIEXPLORE.EXE\22\20%REGEXPTEXT\3D\22http://\5CS*\22\0D\0A
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Re[2]: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)

2002-06-18 Thread Daniel van Rooijen [CopyCats]

Hi Matthias,

MA Ehm. Someone else already mentioned (maybe on the german mailing
MA lists) that this problems are caused by some unwanted linebreaks on
MA the faq page.

Oops - that makes sense. I don't know why I didn't notice! I'll try
again without the linebreaks and see how I fare..

Your name sounds German, so you may be a frequent user of Umlauts. Can
I ask you a question? When I try to enter a high-ascii character using
Alt-nnn, the Bat doesn't enter the character but instead performs all
sorts of system functions (menu's pop up, etc). Do you know of a way
to turn this off?

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Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)

2002-06-18 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Marck,

@18 June 2002, 14:28:53 +0100 Marck D Pearlstone wrote in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Here they are again:

The MainSet property is wrong:

   MainSet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

,-=[ Try again :-( ]-
  BeginFilter
  Name: Submit spam to SpamCop
  Source: \Inbox
  Target: \Trash
  CopyFolder: none
  MainSet: 40.
  
Actions:faMarkRead,faNewMsg,faExport,faoExportOver,faoExportKludges,faoManualOnly,faoHotKey,faoSaveUnix
  NewAddr: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  NewTemplate: %put\3D\27C:\5Ctemp\5Cexport.txt\27\0D\0A
  ExtFile: C:\temp\export.txt
  HotKey: 49235
  EndFilter
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Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)

2002-06-18 Thread Peter Palmreuther

Hello Daniel,

On Tuesday, June 18, 2002 at 3:35:11 PM you wrote in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part):

DvRC When I try to enter a high-ascii character using
DvRC Alt-nnn, the Bat doesn't enter the character but instead performs all
DvRC sorts of system functions (menu's pop up, etc). Do you know of a way
DvRC to turn this off?

Is there a small chance you have turned 'NumLock' off and don't keep
'Alt' pressed while trying to enter the character codes?
I can create exactly the same behavior you're describing if I do so ...
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Re[2]: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)

2002-06-18 Thread Daniel van Rooijen [CopyCats]


Hi Marck,

MDP Nope. You done good! The How to says to use Ctrl-V. Actually, I just
MDP tried it and it's completely hit and miss!

Matthias' hint about the broken lines on the website was right on
target - I've got the filters working now.

However, I had to make a small change to the second stage export
template for the spamcop.bat file. I turned the part where you check
for http://\S*; into http://spamcop.net/sc\S*;.

The reason is that Spamcop's confirmations to me contain several
instances of http://;, and the first one (that the template catches)
leads to a page with an offer to upgrade my Spamcop account to a paid
one.. Here's what it said:

   PLEASE HELP SUPPORT THIS SERVICE!
   SpamCop is free.  However, if you like the service please pay for it:
   http://spamcop.net/upgradeaccount.shtml?EWmxUXyY13zmNWJo

   SpamCop is now ready to process your spam.

   Use links to finish spam reporting:
   http://spamcop.net/sc?id=z40442472ze7b89484a95a9a956b620bf34c203bbdz

So, the export filter didn't catch the right URL and sent me to the
upgrade offer instead (which I may well take later on).

Thanks for your help!!

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Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)

2002-06-18 Thread Thomas F

Hello Marck,

On Tue, 18 Jun 2002 14:28:53 +0100 GMT (18/06/02, 20:28 +0700 GMT),
Marck D Pearlstone wrote:

MDP ,-=[ Spamcop reply Intercept ]-

[...]
MDP   SaveTemplate:
MDP   
\22c:\5CProgram\20Files\5CInternet\20Explorer\5CIEXPLORE.EXE\22\20%REGEXPTEXT\3D\22http://\5CS*\22\0D\0A

This is the line break I advised a member on the German list to
delete. You might want to mention this in the FAQ.

I have a new problem with SpamCop: Instead of a web page with the
header info and the choice which postmasters to send the spam report
to, the second filter now opens a web page that suggests Upgrade to a
paid SpamCop account. What is that about, I wonder?

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Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste.

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Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)

2002-06-18 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Thomas,

@18 June 2002, 20:53:15 +0700 (14:53 UK time) Thomas F wrote in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

MDP   SaveTemplate:
MDP   
\22c:\5CProgram\20Files\5CInternet\20Explorer\5CIEXPLORE.EXE\22\20%REGEXPTEXT\3D\22http://\5CS*\22\0D\0A

 This is the line break I advised a member on the German list to
 delete. You might want to mention this in the FAQ.

I won't need to - I'll be republishing it without the *space* after
the SaveTemplate causing auto-wrap!

 I have a new problem with SpamCop: Instead of a web page with the
 header info and the choice which postmasters to send the spam report
 to, the second filter now opens a web page that suggests Upgrade to
 a paid SpamCop account. What is that about, I wonder?

As Dann suggests, the regexp filter needs enhancing to:
http://spamcop.net/sc\S*. SpamCop have changed the format of the
notification message for free accounts :-(.

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Re[2]: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)

2002-06-18 Thread Daniel van Rooijen [CopyCats]

Hi Peter,

PP Is there a small chance you have turned 'NumLock' off and don't keep
PP 'Alt' pressed while trying to enter the character codes?.

I am keeping Alt pressed down, but you're right about Numlock - it is
off (as it should be!! :-)

When I turn Numlock on, Alt-nnn and Alt- works fine..

Best,

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Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)

2002-06-18 Thread Jonathan Angliss

On Tuesday, June 18, 2002, Marck D Pearlstone wrote...

 Nope. You done good! The How to says to use Ctrl-V. Actually, I just
 tried it and it's completely hit and miss! Sometimes it pastes 100%
 correctly, sometimes not. Here they are again:

snip

Call me stupid... but I cannot get those to work... I've pasted the
filter into my filters list, and when I got to run the CTRL ALT S, it
exports the text file fine... but never sends anything... I've checked
on the server, and the sent items, but nothing... what am I missing?

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Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)

2002-06-18 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Jonathan,

@18 June 2002, 09:29:09 -0500 (15:29 UK time) Jonathan Angliss wrote
in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Call me stupid... but I cannot get those to work... I've pasted the
 filter into my filters list, and when I got to run the CTRL ALT S,
 it exports the text file fine... but never sends anything... I've
 checked on the server, and the sent items, but nothing... what am I
 missing?

Pass - try doing a Ctrl-C on the filter in the filter list then a
Ctrl-V into a replay to this message so we can see what you've
actually got in the filter. It works fine for those not stumbling over
bad wrapping.

Actually, that may be the problem anyway: if your viewer wrapped the
lines then the pasted filter may be messed up.

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Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)

2002-06-18 Thread Jonathan Angliss

On Tuesday, June 18, 2002, Marck D Pearlstone wrote...

 Pass - try doing a Ctrl-C on the filter in the filter list then a
 Ctrl-V into a replay to this message so we can see what you've
 actually got in the filter. It works fine for those not stumbling over
 bad wrapping.

Oddly enough, it was the first thing I checked for, pasted it into an
external editor, removed wrappings from the settings, and everything
was fine... but here it is:

BeginFilter
Name: Submit spam to SpamCop
Active: 1
Source: \\\Spam
Target: \\\Spam\Forwarded Spam
CopyFolder: none
MainSet: 40.
Actions: 
faNewMsg,faExport,faoExportOver,faoExportKludges,faoManualOnly,faoHotKey,faoSaveUnix
AddGroups: 
DelGroups: 
ForwardTemplate: 
ConfirmTemplate: 
ReplyTemplate: 
FwdAddr: 
RedirectAddr: 
NewAddr: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
NewTemplate: %put\3D\27C:\5Cexport.txt\27\0D\0A
ExtCmd: 
ExtFile: C:\export.txt
ExtractDir: 
ColourGroup: default
AddAddrItems: afiFrom,
DelAddrItems: afiFrom,
HotKey: 49235
IsOfColour: default
SizeBigger: 0
SizeSmaller: 0
AgeOlder: 0
AgeNewer: 0
InAddrPos: 0
OutAddrPos: 0
InAddrGroups: 
NoAddrGroups: 
KillFile: 
KillMethod: 0
SaveTemplate: 
SndFile: 
SysSound: 0
SoundTime: 0:00-0:00
AllowTime: 0:00-0:00
EndFilter

TIA :)

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Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)

2002-06-18 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Jonathan,

@18 June 2002, 09:45:04 -0500 (15:45 UK time) Jonathan Angliss wrote
in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Oddly enough, it was the first thing I checked for, pasted it into an
 external editor, removed wrappings from the settings, and everything
 was fine... but here it is:

 BeginFilter
 Name: Submit spam to SpamCop
 Active: 1
 Source: \\\Spam
 Target: \\\Spam\Forwarded Spam
 CopyFolder: none
 MainSet: 40.
 Actions: 
faNewMsg,faExport,faoExportOver,faoExportKludges,faoManualOnly,faoHotKey,faoSaveUnix
 AddGroups:
 DelGroups:
 ForwardTemplate:
 ConfirmTemplate:
 ReplyTemplate:
 FwdAddr:
 RedirectAddr:
 NewAddr: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 NewTemplate: %put\3D\27C:\5Cexport.txt\27\0D\0A
 ExtCmd:
 ExtFile: C:\export.txt

snip

... and it's perfect (apart from not marking the spam as Read). I
have no idea why that wouldn't create a message for you. It should be
queued in the outbox of whichever account is active and sent on the
next send cycle.

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Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)

2002-06-18 Thread Jonathan Angliss

On Tuesday, June 18, 2002, Marck D Pearlstone wrote...

snip

 ... and it's perfect (apart from not marking the spam as Read). I
 have no idea why that wouldn't create a message for you. It should be
 queued in the outbox of whichever account is active and sent on the
 next send cycle.

Is the fact that it's a common folder have any affect?  Plus it's not
marking it as read, because all mail that has been marked as spam by
the server gets dumped into a common folder, and marked as read... I
then process at a later time... would that affect it as well?

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Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)

2002-06-18 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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@18 June 2002, 10:07:31 -0500 (16:07 UK time) Jonathan Angliss wrote
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 ... and it's perfect (apart from not marking the spam as Read). I
 have no idea why that wouldn't create a message for you. It should be
 queued in the outbox of whichever account is active and sent on the
 next send cycle.

 Is the fact that it's a common folder have any affect?

Yes Yes YES! (sorry - didn't mean to yell, just got excited). You need
to enhance the template to include a %ACCOUNT=main to provide a
sending account!

 ... dumped into a common folder, and marked as read... I then
 process at a later time... would that affect it as well?

No.

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Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)

2002-06-18 Thread Jonathan Angliss

On Tuesday, June 18, 2002, Marck D Pearlstone wrote...

 Is the fact that it's a common folder have any affect?

 Yes Yes YES! (sorry - didn't mean to yell, just got excited). You need
 to enhance the template to include a %ACCOUNT=main to provide a
 sending account!

Modified... now I just have to wait for the inevitable spam ;)

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Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)

2002-06-18 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Jonathan,

@18 June 2002, 10:38:29 -0500 (16:38 UK time) Jonathan Angliss wrote
in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Is the fact that it's a common folder have any affect?

 Yes Yes YES! (sorry - didn't mean to yell, just got excited). You need
 to enhance the template to include a %ACCOUNT=main to provide a
 sending account!

 Modified... now I just have to wait for the inevitable spam ;)

... or retrieve an earlier one from the Forwarded Spam folder ...
;-)

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Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)

2002-06-18 Thread Jonathan Angliss

On Tuesday, June 18, 2002, Marck D Pearlstone wrote...

 Modified... now I just have to wait for the inevitable spam ;)

 ... or retrieve an earlier one from the Forwarded Spam folder ...
 ;-)

True... just be resubmitting it... just cancel the post

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Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)

2002-06-18 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Jonathan,

@18 June 2002, 10:52:32 -0500 (16:52 UK time) Jonathan Angliss wrote
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 ... or retrieve an earlier one from the Forwarded Spam folder ...
 ;-)

 True... just be resubmitting it... just cancel the post

... I thought we'd determined that the submission didn't happen
because no account was specified to send it from ... or did you do it
by hand anyway?

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Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)

2002-06-18 Thread Jonathan Angliss

On Tuesday, June 18, 2002, Marck D Pearlstone wrote...

 ... I thought we'd determined that the submission didn't happen
 because no account was specified to send it from ... or did you do it
 by hand anyway?

I did them all as a batch by hand... using ALT SHIFT F5, then putting
in the SpamCop address... the same way I've been doing it since
signing up. Just tested it again *with* %ACCOUNT='accountname' in the
template for the rule, and it still didn't send... any other ideas? or
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Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)

2002-06-18 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Jonathan,

@18 June 2002, 11:01:49 -0500 (17:01 UK time) Jonathan Angliss wrote
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 ... I thought we'd determined that the submission didn't happen
 because no account was specified to send it from ... or did you do it
 by hand anyway?

 I did them all as a batch by hand... using ALT SHIFT F5, then putting
 in the SpamCop address... the same way I've been doing it since
 signing up. Just tested it again *with* %ACCOUNT='accountname' in the
 template for the rule, and it still didn't send... any other ideas? or
 did I put it in the wrong place?

Dunno. I have mine in the create message template that already as
put='c:\temp\export.txt' in it. I use this construct myself because
I filter my spam to an account called Anti-Spam that has no related
POP3/SMTP servers.

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Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)

2002-06-18 Thread Jonathan Angliss

On Tuesday, June 18, 2002, Marck D Pearlstone wrote...

 Dunno. I have mine in the create message template that already as
 put='c:\temp\export.txt' in it. I use this construct myself because
 I filter my spam to an account called Anti-Spam that has no related
 POP3/SMTP servers.

That is where I put it, but no luck still... I guess an extra key
combo isn't going to kill me ;)

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Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)

2002-06-18 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Jonathan,

@18 June 2002, 11:13:08 -0500 (17:13 UK time) Jonathan Angliss wrote
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 That is where I put it, but no luck still... I guess an extra key
 combo isn't going to kill me ;)

Okay. Next step. Shut down and restart your system. I actually
submitted a bug to the BugTraq about Create message filters not
working at one point. After the next reboot, they worked perfectly and
I could never replicate the problem again. The bug was removed from
the traqqer without resolution.

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Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)

2002-06-18 Thread Jonathan Angliss

On Tuesday, June 18, 2002, Marck D Pearlstone wrote...

 Okay. Next step. Shut down and restart your system. I actually
 submitted a bug to the BugTraq about Create message filters not
 working at one point. After the next reboot, they worked perfectly and
 I could never replicate the problem again. The bug was removed from
 the traqqer without resolution.

Heh... I'll be damned... that worked fine.  Nice lil' filter works...
just going to put the other one in too, and I should be all okay to
handle spam nearly automatically ;)

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Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)

2002-06-18 Thread Jan Rifkinson

Hi Marck.

At 11:33 AM on Tuesday, June 18, 2002 you wrote the
following about [SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher
program)]:

MDP [...] You need to enhance the template to include a
MDP %ACCOUNT=main to provide a sending account! [/...]

 What is this ACCOUNT=main? Haven't seen that before.

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Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)

2002-06-18 Thread Jonathan Angliss

On Tuesday, June 18, 2002, Jan Rifkinson wrote...

 Hi Marck.

MDP [...] You need to enhance the template to include a
MDP %ACCOUNT=main to provide a sending account! [/...]

  What is this ACCOUNT=main? Haven't seen that before.

%ACCOUNT is a macro... just replace main with the name of the
account you wish to send from... its used in templates.

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Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)

2002-06-18 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Jan,

@18 June 2002, 13:08:27 -0400 (18:08 UK time) Jan Rifkinson wrote in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

MDP [...] You need to enhance the template to include a
MDP %ACCOUNT=main to provide a sending account! [/...]

  What is this ACCOUNT=main? Haven't seen that before.

main was just a for example. Mine is %ACCOUNT=Marck. Jonathan
knew what I meant, fortunately.

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Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)

2002-06-18 Thread Thomas F

Hello Marck,

On Tue, 18 Jun 2002 15:16:51 +0100 GMT (18/06/02, 21:16 +0700 GMT),
Marck D Pearlstone wrote:

MDP As Dann suggests, the regexp filter needs enhancing to:
MDP http://spamcop.net/sc\S*. SpamCop have changed the format of the
MDP notification message for free accounts :-(.

Thanks. Works. :-)

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Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)

2002-06-18 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Thomas,

@18 June 2002, 03:16:11 +0700 (21:16 UK time) Thomas F wrote in
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MDP As Dann suggests, the regexp filter needs enhancing to:
MDP http://spamcop.net/sc\S*. SpamCop have changed the format of the
MDP notification message for free accounts :-(.

 Thanks. Works. :-)

... but not for paid accounts (like mine) :-(

This does though g:

http://\S*spamcop.net/sc\S*

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Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)

2002-06-18 Thread Paul Cartwright

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On Tuesday, June 18, 2002, 4:29 PM, you wrote:



MDP As Dann suggests, the regexp filter needs enhancing to:
MDP http://spamcop.net/sc\S*. SpamCop have changed the format of the
MDP notification message for free accounts :-(.

 Thanks. Works. :-)

MDP ... but not for paid accounts (like mine) :-(

MDP This does though g:

MDP http://\S*spamcop.net/sc\S*


one more time, could you reply with the entire correct filter for that
notifcation message for PAID accounts, I'd like to paste the entire
correct filter and start over ;)

thanks,

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Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)

2002-06-18 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Paul,

@18 June 2002, 16:41:19 -0400 (21:41 UK time) Paul Cartwright wrote in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 one more time, could you reply with the entire correct filter for that
 notifcation message for PAID accounts, I'd like to paste the entire
 correct filter and start over ;)

,-=[ Submit - all flavours ]-
BeginFilter
Name: Submit spam to SpamCop
Source: \Inbox
Target: \Trash
CopyFolder: none
MainSet: 40.
Actions:faMarkRead,faNewMsg,faExport,faoExportOver,faoExportKludges,faoManualOnly,faoHotKey,faoSaveUnix
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NewTemplate: %put\3D\27C:\5Ctemp\5Cexport.txt\27\0D\0A
ExtFile: C:\temp\export.txt
HotKey: 49235
EndFilter
`

,-=[ Pick up reply - all flavours ]-
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Name: SpamCop AutoResponder
Active: 1
Source: \Inbox
Target: \Trash
CopyFolder: none
MainSet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MainSet: 20SpamCop has accepted
Actions: faMarkRead,faExport,faExternal,faoExportOver,faoWaitCompletion
ExtCmd: C:\temp\spamcop.bat
ExtFile: C:\temp\spamcop.bat
SaveTemplate:\22c:\5CProgram\20Files\5CInternet\20Explorer\5CIEXPLORE.EXE\22\20%-\0D\0A%REGEXPTEXT\3D\22http://\5CS*spamcop.net/sc\5CS*\22\0D\0A
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Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)

2002-06-18 Thread Paul Cartwright

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On Tuesday, June 18, 2002, 5:06 PM, you wrote:


MDP ,-=[ Pick up reply - all flavours ]-
MDP BeginFilter
MDP Name: SpamCop AutoResponder
MDP Active: 1
MDP Source: \Inbox
MDP Target: \Trash
MDP CopyFolder: none
MDP MainSet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MDP MainSet: 20SpamCop has accepted
MDP Actions: faMarkRead,faExport,faExternal,faoExportOver,faoWaitCompletion
MDP ExtCmd: C:\temp\spamcop.bat
MDP ExtFile: C:\temp\spamcop.bat
MDP 
SaveTemplate:\22c:\5CProgram\20Files\5CInternet\20Explorer\5CIEXPLORE.EXE\22\20%-\0D\0A%REGEXPTEXT\3D\22http://\5CS*spamcop.net/sc\5CS*\22\0D\0A
MDP EndFilter


but I don't see that change you were talking about. Isn't
this the change area:
MDP 22http://\5CS*spamcop.net/sc\5CS*\22\0D\0A

here is your reply with that info:
 Thanks. Works. :-)

... but not for paid accounts (like mine) :-(

This does though g:

http://\S*spamcop.net/sc\S*



- -so, should I replace: http://\5CS*spamcop.net/sc\5CS*

with your line:  http://\S*spamcop.net/sc\S*

or am I looking in the wrong place?




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Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)

2002-06-18 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Paul,

@18 June 2002, 17:32:14 -0400 (22:32 UK time) Paul Cartwright wrote in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 http://\S*spamcop.net/sc\S*

 - -so, should I replace: http://\5CS*spamcop.net/sc\5CS*

 with your line:  http://\S*spamcop.net/sc\S*

 or am I looking in the wrong place?

It's a chalk and cheese issue..

http://\5CS*spamcop.net/sc\5CS*; is how a string looks when intended
to be used as part of a copy/paste of an entire filter into the
sorting office.

http://\S*spamcop.net/sc\S*; is exactly the same, but what it looks
like in the template in the filter. It's there for you to manually
paste into an existing filter.

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Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)

2002-06-18 Thread Jan Rifkinson

Hi Marck.

At 1:52 PM on Tuesday, June 18, 2002 you wrote the following
about [SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)]:

  What is this ACCOUNT=main? Haven't seen that before.

MDP main was just a for example. Mine is
MDP %ACCOUNT=Marck. Jonathan knew what I meant,
MDP fortunately.

  Whew. :-)

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Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)

2002-06-18 Thread Paul Cartwright


On Tuesday, June 18, 2002, 5:46 PM, you wrote:

MDP It's a chalk and cheese issue..

MDP http://\5CS*spamcop.net/sc\5CS*; is how a string looks when intended
MDP to be used as part of a copy/paste of an entire filter into the
MDP sorting office.

MDP http://\S*spamcop.net/sc\S*; is exactly the same, but what it looks
MDP like in the template in the filter. It's there for you to manually
MDP paste into an existing filter.

I wondered about that, which is why I asked. I noticed those paste
lines, tried to setup the filter manually with that info, but it
wasn't easy! Now I know WHY :)



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Re: Alternatives to Mailwasher

2002-06-05 Thread David Elliott

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Hello Keith

On 04 June 2002 at 13:12:51 -0400 (which was 18:12 where I live) Keith
Hanlon emanated these words of wisdom

 I've been using TB for about a week now and I just love it. I downloaded
 as many Email apps as I could find and this was clearly the best. I was a
 Eudora user for years, but they want people to pay for Beta versions, and
 there's been a Windows 2000 bug that they don't want to fix. Oh well,
 their loss...

 My question: I've been using Mailwasher this week and I really like
 it. Is there an alternative that some of you guys would recommend?
 Maybe some filters or something?

either

(1) Filters go to http://download.work4theweb.com/Personal/ and look for a
file called spam.zip. I think that there are instructions in there, and I
can not remember who I got it from, so if they would like to own up!!

or

(2) SpamPal from http://www.twinlobber.org.uk/spampal/

It all depends on your needs.

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Alternatives to Mailwasher

2002-06-04 Thread Keith Hanlon

I've been using TB for about a week now and I just love it.  I 
downloaded as many Email apps as I could find and this was clearly 
the best. I was a Eudora user for years, but they want people to pay 
for Beta versions, and there's been a Windows 2000 bug that they 
don't want to fix. Oh well, their loss...

My question: I've been using Mailwasher this week and I really like 
it. Is there an alternative that some of you guys would recommend? 
Maybe some filters or something?

Thanks!

Keith


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Re: Alternatives to Mailwasher

2002-06-04 Thread Nick Andriash

Hello Keith Hanlon,

In Reference to your Posting on Tuesday, June 04 2002 at 08:24 AM PDT,

 My question: I've been using Mailwasher this week and I really like 
 it. Is there an alternative that some of you guys would recommend? 
 Maybe some filters or something?

Keith, if you want your question answered then it is best to start a new
thread with a new subject heading, rather than simply replying to an
existing thread and 'then' changing the subject. Your message is now
buried within an existing thread that many may have decided not to read...
and thereby miss your new subject.

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Alternatives to Mailwasher

2002-06-04 Thread Keith Hanlon

Let's try this again... I was unaware of the reply to/change 
subject issue that effects threading...

I've been using TB for about a week now and I just love it.  I 
downloaded as many Email apps as I could find and this was clearly 
the best. I was a Eudora user for years, but they want people to pay 
for Beta versions, and there's been a Windows 2000 bug that they 
don't want to fix. Oh well, their loss...

My question: I've been using Mailwasher this week and I really like 
it. Is there an alternative that some of you guys would recommend? 
Maybe some filters or something?

Thanks!

Keith
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Re: Alternatives to Mailwasher

2002-06-04 Thread John Galvin

Hello Keith,

Tuesday, June 4, 2002, 6:12:51 PM, you wrote:

KH I've been using Mailwasher this week and I really like 
KH it. Is there an alternative that some of you guys would recommend?

http://www.twinlobber.org.uk/spampal/

KH Maybe some filters or something?

The filters are very powerful, and if configured correctly can
probably achieve what u want.



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Re: Alternatives to Mailwasher

2002-06-04 Thread Keith Russell

Hello, Keith.

On Tue, 4 Jun 2002 13:12:51 -0400 GMT your local time, which was
Tuesday, June 04, 2002, 11:12 AM -0700 GMT here,
you wrote:

 My question: I've been using Mailwasher this week and I really like
 it. Is there an alternative that some of you guys would recommend? 
 Maybe some filters or something?

  Just curious...If you really like it, why are you looking for an
  alternative?

  Mailwasher also lets you easily set up filters. I have them set up for
  all my mailing lists so that messages to those lists are not flagged as
  spam. This is necessary because Spamcop, especially, has blacklisted so
  many domains (even Marck's, for example!).

  I've reached the point where MailWasher finds almost all the spam and I
  get very few false positives now.

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Re: Alternatives to Mailwasher

2002-06-04 Thread Keith Hanlon

Anyway, what  does Mailwasher do? I don't know it. Any URL?


Ah, I should have supplied a link:  http://www.mailwasher.net/

It allows you to remove emails from the server before downloading 
them. It identifies spam (and possibly spam) for you. It will also 
send a bounce-back to the offending emails.

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Re: Alternatives to Mailwasher

2002-06-04 Thread Thomas F

Hello Keith,

On Tue, 4 Jun 2002 11:24:41 -0400 GMT (04/06/02, 22:24 +0700 GMT),
Keith Hanlon wrote:

KH My question: I've been using Mailwasher this week and I really like 
KH it. Is there an alternative that some of you guys would recommend? 
KH Maybe some filters or something?

I found your email by coincidence under the NOD32 thread, whcih I
don't really follow.

Anyway, what  does Mailwasher do? I don't know it. Any URL?

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Re: Alternatives to Mailwasher

2002-06-04 Thread Keith Hanlon

Just curious...If you really like it, why are you looking for an
   alternative?


Sometimes there are better programs and I don't know anything about 
them. I had no idea TB existed until I started asking around, 
checking out Google, CNet, etc.

Sounds like MW might be just fine for me... but you never know!

Keith


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Re: Alternatives to Mailwasher

2002-06-04 Thread Keith Russell

Hello, Keith.

On Tue, 4 Jun 2002 14:58:13 -0400 GMT your local time, which was
Tuesday, June 04, 2002, 12:58 PM -0700 GMT here,
you wrote:

 Sometimes there are better programs and I don't know anything about 
 them. I had no idea TB existed until I started asking around, 
 checking out Google, CNet, etc.

  Fair enought.
  
 Sounds like MW might be just fine for me... but you never know!

  MailWasher and SpamPal (which I've seen recommended but haven't tried)
  take quite different approaches to the problem. Feel free to try them
  both and let us know what you think!
  
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