Re[4]: Spamfilters - Mailwasher pro
Hello Jim, Have you tried Antispam Servant for TB? This filter works extremely well and there is no need in my opinion for a third party program to interface with TB. I have tried Mailwasher Pro and I found it's more work than it's worth. Antispam Servant resides within TB as a plug-in so it's transparent. Have a good one!:-) -- Best regards, Timmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tuesday, July 17, 2007, 5:21:50 PM, you wrote: On Tuesday, July 17, 2007, at 5:14:03 PM, Code 2 wrote: I like Richard's blacklist solution for .pdf attachments, but I just can't risk a false positive on an important e-mail. Maybe the solution is to filter these to an Unknown folder for periodic review. Kind of a nearly-Junk Mail folder. I've been using AntiSpam Sniper for nearly a year now, through several major upgrades, and it catches almost everything that comes my way. Since I do commercial database recovery and more than half of my business arrives through Email I cannot depend on whitelisting alone, and I have to make my address available on my web site -- but the Sniper still does a great job. I still check my Junk mail folder often, before deleting its content, and found it quite helpful to sort that message list (and just that list, no others) on the To address column. This makes it easy to check my two published addresses for possibly good mail, and lets me skip over all the spam that's addressed to others but has me on a BCC list... Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Spamfilters - Mailwasher pro
Hello tbudl, I'm looking into some anti-spam solutions MailWasher Pro looks like something useful but has one major flaw. If it can't be 'fixed' I wouldn't even want it for free... :P The problem is that I doesn't work as a proxy. I have to switch of auto mail checking in The Bat and let MailWasher do the checking. When done checking it can launch The Bat! If the Bat isn't loaded it successfully starts and does its 'check mail at startup' but The Bat! is always loaded on my PC. If The Bat is already open nothing seems to happen. However the solution might be I can add a command line option. Is there a command line option that forces a mail check? Something like: thebat.exe -CheckMailNow Besides of the above I would really appreciate some idea's for a good anti spam solution. I prefer proxy type of setups. I spend a lot of time with Baysian type of filtering but that didn't work out very well with the picture spam. I do prefer using those online anti-spam databases -- Best regards, Tony As long as we're going to reinvent the wheel again, we might as well try making it round this time. Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spamfilters - Mailwasher pro
T I'm looking into some anti-spam solutions MailWasher Pro looks like T something useful but has one major flaw. If it can't be 'fixed' I T wouldn't even want it for free... :P The problem is that I doesn't T work as a proxy. I have to switch of auto mail checking in The Bat T and let MailWasher do the checking. When done checking it can T launch The Bat! If the Bat isn't loaded it successfully starts and T does its 'check mail at startup' but The Bat! is always loaded on T my PC. If The Bat is already open nothing seems to happen. However T the solution might be I can add a command line option. Is there a T command line option that forces a mail check? Something like: T thebat.exe -CheckMailNow T Besides of the above I would really appreciate some idea's for a good anti spam solution. T I prefer proxy type of setups. T I spend a lot of time with Baysian type of filtering but that T didn't work out very well with the picture spam. T I do prefer using those online anti-spam databases For online services, SpamPal works well with The Bat!, although the application itself hasn't been updated for more than a year. I expect the databases it refers to are updated regularly. The only reason I switched away from it was that access to the databases seemed to be slowing. You said you don't like the Baysian filters and I was of that same opinion for a long time. However, I started using the AntispamSniper plug-in for the The Bat! five or six months ago and have been very pleased. It is fast, easy to train and very reliable. It has been 98.6% accurate for the last four months, with only 0.2% false positives. If it wasn't for those darn spammers sending blank messages with .pdf spam attachments lately, I expect it would be well over 99% accurate. -- Code 2 :canadaflag: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! version 2.12.00 on Windows XP Service Pack 2 Zurich hotel: Because of the impropriety of entertaining guests of the opposite sex in the bedroom, it is suggested that the lobby be used for this purpose. Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spamfilters - Mailwasher pro
Hello Code, On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] C2 If it wasn't for those darn spammers sending blank C2 messages with .pdf spam attachments lately, I expect it would be well C2 over 99% accurate. Here's what the author has just posted in the forum. Maybe that'll help you: Add the mask pdf to the black list of attachment types (Filtering | Attachments | File types). Only whitelisted senders will be able to send to you PDF documents in this case. The messages from unknown senders with PDF in attachment will be blocked. -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.99.8 with POP3 account AntispamSniper 2.5.0.3 | Windows XP (build 2600) version 5.1 Service Pack 2 | F-Prot AV, Outpost Firewall Pro, Spysweeper, Adaware, SpyBot | CPU: Athlon 1.09 Ghz | RAM: 1024 MB Holiday in France: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/lazyhomes/holiday.html Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spamfilters - Mailwasher pro
Hello Richard, Tuesday, July 17, 2007, 11:10:37 PM, you wrote: RW Hello Code, RW On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 you wrote in RW mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] C2 If it wasn't for those darn spammers sending blank C2 messages with .pdf spam attachments lately, I expect it would be well C2 over 99% accurate. RW Here's what the author has just posted in the forum. Maybe that'll help RW you: RW Add the mask pdf to the black list of attachment types (Filtering | RW Attachments | File types). Only whitelisted senders will be able to send RW to you PDF documents in this case. The messages from unknown senders RW with PDF in attachment will be blocked. I'm sure you/the author is right. But that forces us/me to the white list path. In that case I would even need a spam filter. I would use the filters of TB! to blacklist everything except a personal whitelist. :-) That said ideal spamfilters with whitelists don't exist. -- Best regards, Tony Do movie producers still say lights, camera, and action when it is a dark scene? Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spamfilters - Mailwasher pro
Hello Code, Tuesday, July 17, 2007, 10:46:48 PM, you wrote: T I'm looking into some anti-spam solutions MailWasher Pro looks like T something useful but has one major flaw. If it can't be 'fixed' I T wouldn't even want it for free... :P The problem is that I doesn't T work as a proxy. I have to switch of auto mail checking in The Bat T and let MailWasher do the checking. When done checking it can T launch The Bat! If the Bat isn't loaded it successfully starts and T does its 'check mail at startup' but The Bat! is always loaded on T my PC. If The Bat is already open nothing seems to happen. However T the solution might be I can add a command line option. Is there a T command line option that forces a mail check? Something like: T thebat.exe -CheckMailNow T Besides of the above I would really appreciate some idea's for a good anti spam solution. T I prefer proxy type of setups. T I spend a lot of time with Baysian type of filtering but that T didn't work out very well with the picture spam. T I do prefer using those online anti-spam databases C2 For online services, SpamPal works well with The Bat!, although the C2 application itself hasn't been updated for more than a year. I expect C2 the databases it refers to are updated regularly. The only reason I C2 switched away from it was that access to the databases seemed to be C2 slowing. C2 You said you don't like the Baysian filters and I was of that same C2 opinion for a long time. However, I started using the AntispamSniper C2 plug-in for the The Bat! five or six months ago and have been very C2 pleased. It is fast, easy to train and very reliable. It has been C2 98.6% accurate for the last four months, with only 0.2% false C2 positives. If it wasn't for those darn spammers sending blank C2 messages with .pdf spam attachments lately, I expect it would be well C2 over 99% accurate. Perhaps I should have said taht I don't prefer Baysian filters. I've used K9 and Spampal for a long time. Both use Baysian filers. Both gave good results. SpamPal a bit better because of the RNBL (?) database. Both let me down with 'picture spam' I searched for hours on the SpamPal forum for regex rules. The picture spam with just a picture was fairly successful filtered. But the new generation picture spam with book quotes was/is a absolute disaster. And yes the RNBL access was slow. I don't know why. I'm using an about to expire demo of AVG internet suite. It's spamfilter is perfect! Unfortunately it costs $60/year and I only require the spamfilter part. I already have an other anti-virus tool for example. Perhaps SpamPal has just a bad choice of RNBL lists? And as you say it hasn't been updated for a year. I think it's almost 2 years now because I usally don't count beta releases. (but that just personal) Frankly I would care if it as 100 years old. But with spammers evolving the spamfighters need to evolve too. And regEx is way above my head. AntiSpamSniper. I'll put that on my todo list. Was is/it performing well with picture spam? Or where you along the happy few that didn't receive 50 stockmarket picture spams a day. Those guys are busted according to a news article. Not that it matters because Now the subject just changed to Viagra and loans. As for .pdf attachments I have bad news for you. Statistics show that that type of spam is growing rapidly. BTW AVG did catch all of those picture and pdf spams. So it is possible. There is hope! -- Best regards, Tony Love makes the time pass. Time makes love pass. Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spamfilters - Mailwasher pro
Hello Tony, On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] T I'm sure you/the author is right. T But that forces us/me to the white list path. T In that case I would even need a spam filter. Fair enough, I can understand your reticence. I was actually replying to Code2's post but it doesn't make it any the less relevant to you though. I have found Antispansniper to be a very reliable add on to TheBat! I've only had 5 false positives out of nearly 16,000 messages since I started using it. Not a bad percentage I think, and the pdf filter has already worked. -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.99.8 with POP3 account AntispamSniper 2.5.0.3 | Windows XP (build 2600) version 5.1 Service Pack 2 | F-Prot AV, Outpost Firewall Pro, Spysweeper, Adaware, SpyBot | CPU: Athlon 1.09 Ghz | RAM: 1024 MB Holiday in France: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/lazyhomes/holiday.html Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spamfilters - Mailwasher pro
Hello Richard, Tuesday, July 17, 2007, 11:53:16 PM, you wrote: RW Hello Tony, RW On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 you wrote in RW mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] T I'm sure you/the author is right. T But that forces us/me to the white list path. T In that case I would even need a spam filter. RW Fair enough, I can understand your reticence. I was actually replying to RW Code2's post but it doesn't make it any the less relevant to you though. RW I have found Antispansniper to be a very reliable add on to TheBat! I've RW only had 5 false positives out of nearly 16,000 messages since I started RW using it. Not a bad percentage I think, and the pdf filter has already RW worked. Thanks for your replies Richard. I've installed AntispamSniper 15 minutes ago. To short to give real comments about it but at first sight it seems to have everything I need. That combined with your poitive comments and a quite lively support forum I have good hopes -- Best regards, Tony Pol-I-Tics poli meaning many, ticks meaning small blood sucking parasites. Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Spamfilters - Mailwasher pro
T AntiSpamSniper. T I'll put that on my todo list. T Was is/it performing well with picture spam? Or where you along T the happy few that didn't receive 50 stockmarket picture spams a T day. T Those guys are busted according to a news article. Not that it T matters because Now the subject just changed to Viagra and loans. T As for .pdf attachments I have bad news for you. Statistics T show that that type of spam is growing rapidly. T BTW AVG did catch all of those picture and pdf spams. T So it is possible. There is hope! I get dozens of the .gif and .gif/html spam messages each week and AntispamSniper is 100% accurate with those. Interestingly, the volume of my stock tip spam has lessened considerably since the SEC launched its Operation Spamalot. However, I still get stock tip spam in plain text format originating from Asia. AntispamSniper has no problems handling that either. I like Richard's blacklist solution for .pdf attachments, but I just can't risk a false positive on an important e-mail. Maybe the solution is to filter these to an Unknown folder for periodic review. Kind of a nearly-Junk Mail folder. -- Code 2 :canadaflag: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! version 2.12.00 on Windows XP Service Pack 2 Paris hotel elevator: Please leave your values at the front desk. Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Spamfilters - Mailwasher pro
On Tuesday, July 17, 2007, at 5:14:03 PM, Code 2 wrote: I like Richard's blacklist solution for .pdf attachments, but I just can't risk a false positive on an important e-mail. Maybe the solution is to filter these to an Unknown folder for periodic review. Kind of a nearly-Junk Mail folder. I've been using AntiSpam Sniper for nearly a year now, through several major upgrades, and it catches almost everything that comes my way. Since I do commercial database recovery and more than half of my business arrives through Email I cannot depend on whitelisting alone, and I have to make my address available on my web site -- but the Sniper still does a great job. I still check my Junk mail folder often, before deleting its content, and found it quite helpful to sort that message list (and just that list, no others) on the To address column. This makes it easy to check my two published addresses for possibly good mail, and lets me skip over all the spam that's addressed to others but has me on a BCC list... -- Jim Kyle Using The Bat! v3.85.03 on Windows 98 4.10 Build A Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spamfilters - Mailwasher pro
Hello Tony, On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] T I've installed AntispamSniper 15 minutes ago. I don't think you'll regret it and the author answers questions in the forum, normally the same day, should you have any problems. -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.99.8 with POP3 account AntispamSniper 2.5.0.3 | Windows XP (build 2600) version 5.1 Service Pack 2 | F-Prot AV, Outpost Firewall Pro, Spysweeper, Adaware, SpyBot | CPU: Athlon 1.09 Ghz | RAM: 1024 MB Holiday in France: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/lazyhomes/holiday.html Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mailwasher Pro
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Tue, 25 Jan 2005, @ @ at 17:15:39 -0800, when George Mitchell wrote: Mica Mijatovic wrote: MM I mean, I can't see what's wrong if you delete automatically *all* MM SPAM right from the server, without doing anything else, including MM the rummage over and over over downloaded garbage, in order to MM possibly find a misinterpreted jewel. (-: My take on spam filtering is that it is unacceptable for me to lose a single legitimate message to an overeager filter. POPFile rarely misclassifies a legitimate message as spam, but it does happen. I gave BayesFilter about a week, and it didn't do a very good job at all. No way would I trust it to make a decision to delete a message. George, I wrote in this message you response here to, the next part: I'll give to myself yet few days more, since I still cannot perceive a flexibility in doing more instead less, and less effectively instead more effectively. (: It was on Tue, 25 Jan 2005 20:50:57 +0100. So, I indeed gave myself time to reconsider thing, and may now freely say, and with my heart full, and my conscience 'clean', that a message which is not properly addressed to you is *not* a legitimate message. So, your fear is unnecessary and unjustifiable. It, of course, doesn't mean that I have something *against* your ways and methods, or simply habits. You may proceed with worrying unnecessarily and in spending your precious time in the way you are accustomed too. (-: (All our habits are actually engraved in in our ne{ural|rvous} system, and they need some tome to be re-written|modeled, whence we became aware of a such need. It is somewhat unpleasant process sometimes, and sometimes it even hurts (ouch!) a bit. When is the moment in our precious life times when we'll *do* something or not, remains a mystery for many.) Your fellow Batty colleague. (-: - -- Mica PGP keys nestled at: http://bardo.port5.com/pgpkeys/ [Earth LOG: 204 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OS: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium with nestled ZipSlack(tm) 9.1 UMSDOS Linux, and with Bochs 2.1.1 with a small DLX Linux; and, for TB sometimes, Gentoo and Vector via Wine... -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFCQwAt9q62QPd3XuIRAjsrAKCAr8NElobKnnPqWRH+J/c8khI7PQCgmU8r NUVfsufLtmzvG9Zw5iRx9/4= =ZEl6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mailwasher Pro
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Mon, 17 Jan 2005, @ @ at 10:26:02 -0800, when George Mitchell wrote: Mica Mijatovic wrote: MM I may affirm too, that K9 is really fine and effective, but am MM just wandering why people use any additional software for such MM purpose, when TB already has very good filtering means. Flexibility. I played with BayesFilter for about a week, and as I recall my only options for spam were to delete them or move them to a Junk Mail folder. With POPFile, I have filters set up such that if I get a message from a contact of mine that's misidentified as spam, it ends up in the correct folder for that contact (mailing list, etc.) but with a struck-through font in the message list. This greatly reduces the chances I'll overlook such a message, but makes it obvious it was misclassified. I'll give to myself yet few days more, since I still cannot perceive a flexibility in doing more instead less, and less effectively instead more effectively. (: I mean, I can't see what's wrong if you delete automatically *all* SPAM right from the server, without doing anything else, including the rummage over and over over downloaded garbage, in order to possibly find a misinterpreted jewel. (-: - -- Mica PGP key uploaded at: http://pgp.mit.edu/ once just before breakfast :banana: [Earth LOG: 146 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OS: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium with nestled ZipSlack(tm) 9.1 UMSDOS Linux, and with Bochs 2.1.1 with a small DLX Linux; and, for TB sometimes Libranet (Linux) 2.8.1, via Cross Over Office, then Gentoo, SuSE and Vector via Wine... -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFB9qMg9q62QPd3XuIRAhe5AJ9noqggOcR8nl90tuyd9yriIRMcsQCgivlV S2hxfsJwTrnKviFgUeprnQA= =uGFR -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mailwasher Pro
Mica Mijatovic wrote: MM I mean, I can't see what's wrong if you delete automatically *all* MM SPAM right from the server, without doing anything else, including MM the rummage over and over over downloaded garbage, in order to MM possibly find a misinterpreted jewel. (-: My take on spam filtering is that it is unacceptable for me to lose a single legitimate message to an overeager filter. POPFile rarely misclassifies a legitimate message as spam, but it does happen. I gave BayesFilter about a week, and it didn't do a very good job at all. No way would I trust it to make a decision to delete a message. -- George Using The Bat! 3.0.2.8 on Windows XP Pro, Service Pack 2. Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mailwasher Pro
Hi John, On Sunday, January 16, 2005, at 12:55:58 PM PST, you wrote: IMO K9 is the best of the lot, and free as well. I use K9 as well, and I'm very happy with it. Just out of curiosity, I recently tried the latest version of the BayesIt plug-in, but I got tired of moving good emails back to their proper folders during the initial training (got too frustrated with this, so I just removed it and continued to use K9, which is now working at about 99.5% accuracy, with no false positives). -- Melissa PGP public keys: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Body=Please%20send%20keys TB! v2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 pgppkJWSlbn00.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mailwasher Pro
Hello John, Sunday, January 16, 2005, 12:55:58 PM, you wrote: JP IMO K9 is the best of the lot, and free as well. Looks like mailwasher pro does more than I actually want or need. I may be going back to K9, it does basically what I need and is very light on resources. -- Best regards, Darrin Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 pgp3WotpufIFX.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mailwasher Pro
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Mon, 17 Jan 2005, @ @ at 02:37:59 -0800, when Melissa Reese wrote: Hi John, On Sunday, January 16, 2005, at 12:55:58 PM PST, you wrote: IMO K9 is the best of the lot, and free as well. I use K9 as well, and I'm very happy with it. Just out of curiosity, I recently tried the latest version of the BayesIt plug-in, but I got tired of moving good emails back to their proper folders during the initial training (got too frustrated with this, so I just removed it and continued to use K9, which is now working at about 99.5% accuracy, with no false positives). I am not very willing to push my technologies, or to, god forbid, impose them, but allow me please, all of you, to brag a bit again: ALL the spam I have the rare honor, and a subtle pleasure, to give the Axe to, to say so, even without downloading it, but just using TB's Selective Download filters. I may affirm too, that K9 is really fine and effective, but am just wandering why people use any additional software for such purpose, when TB already has very good filtering means. Judging by TB's LOG, on my digital doors, and not so rarely on windows as well, as at the doggy slot too, appears about at least 66% (or 2/3) of a pure spam, coming to this address of mine, and about 66% (or 2/3) of these 66% (or 2/3) are those of 30-40 KB with fat sick viruses inside. Now, if I had to *download* all this [B]eautiful [S]tuff first, and *then* to have it sorted out, I would probably end without a single hair on(in?) my head, in few days, although I have it just for few washings yet (as a friend of mine would have a habit to say, expressing his worry, or a concern, about something he experiences as a wooly situation, or as possibly such one). To be honest, I still receive, here and there, one (1, Ein, uno) spam message (the skinny one) per 2 or 3 days, in my Inbox, but it's only because I didn't yet tighten my SD rules. I had just one false positive, few months ago, when omitted to type my own address correctly in a (n SD) filter rule. g Actually, I praise here (using my limited {li|to}ngual inability) the greatness of TB's filters. (-: I will not bother you (all) anymore. Soon. I allow myself only one of such letters per month. (Discipline and self-control is mother/niece of vast attainments.) On this list. Now I have to go for pancakes. With sweet brier marmalade. Let the Smile be with you. (-: Shine like the sun and have a good appetite. - -- Mica PGP key uploaded at: http://pgp.mit.edu/ once just before breakfast o [Earth LOG: 138 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OS: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium with nestled ZipSlack(tm) 9.1 UMSDOS Linux, and with Bochs 2.1.1 with a small DLX Linux; and, for TB sometimes Libranet (Linux) 2.8.1, via Cross Over Office, then Gentoo, SuSE and Vector via Wine... -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFB68/o9q62QPd3XuIRAvrYAJ9duszJkaMOtBgXPq1+cJJ3WZyKXgCfQ1nj DtTWxvf/xuLkp/uaIe7U4Ys= =caYD -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mailwasher Pro
Mica Mijatovic wrote: MM I may affirm too, that K9 is really fine and effective, but am MM just wandering why people use any additional software for such MM purpose, when TB already has very good filtering means. Flexibility. I played with BayesFilter for about a week, and as I recall my only options for spam were to delete them or move them to a Junk Mail folder. With POPFile, I have filters set up such that if I get a message from a contact of mine that's misidentified as spam, it ends up in the correct folder for that contact (mailing list, etc.) but with a struck-through font in the message list. This greatly reduces the chances I'll overlook such a message, but makes it obvious it was misclassified. -- George Using The Bat! 3.0.2.8 on Windows XP Pro, Service Pack 2. Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Mailwasher Pro
Hello TBUDL, Anyone use this with TB? Having good results? I decided to give it a try. -- Best regards, Darrin Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 pgpIUGFMLRKQD.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mailwasher Pro
Hello Darrin, Sunday, January 16, 2005, 11:07:34 AM, you wrote and sent the following: Anyone use this with TB? Having good results? I decided to give it a try. For a long long time... It shouldn't interfere with anything. It is sort of its own POP mail client. I leave it open most of the time, and use TB to pull down the mail later. btw, have you looked at these filters: http://www.w5hq.com/MailWasher/ They work great for me, in fact I really don't worry about blacklist servers anymore between those and Bayesian filtering. You know bouncing is a bad thing, and ought to be removed from the product (most return addresses are spoofed for starters)? -- Andrew Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 On Windows XP, 5.1 Build: 2600 Human intelligence is limited, stupidity isn't. Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mailwasher Pro
Hello Andrew, Sunday, January 16, 2005, 8:27:53 AM, you wrote: A For a long long time... It shouldn't interfere with anything. A It is A sort of its own POP mail client. I leave it open most of the A time, and A use TB to pull down the mail later. Thanks. Im going to check that and Spamihilator program and see which one works good for me. Right now Im liking spamihilator. -- Best regards, Darrin Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 pgpdFh07ylixN.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mailwasher Pro
Hello Darrin, A reminder of what Darrin Rich on TBUDL typed on: Sunday, January 16, 2005 at 17:08:35 GMT +0100 DR Anyone use this with TB? Having good results? I decided to give it a DR try. I used it and it is very good, one of the better ones. -- Best regards,Tony. _ Message composed on 1/16/2005 at 7:12 PM UTC 2004 - AWB The Bat! 3.0.2.10 Gentoo. Registered Linux user #316959 PGP Key http://www.theboomclan.com/pgp.txt http://www.1and1.co.uk/?k_id=7037908 smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mailwasher Pro
Hi Darrin, On Sun, 16 Jan 2005, at 08:07:34 [GMT-0800] (which was Mon, 3:07:34 Australian Eastern Time) you wrote: Anyone use this with TB? Having good results? I decided to give it a try. IMO K9 is the best of the lot, and free as well. -- John Phillips, Sydney, Australia Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Experience is a wonderful thing. It enables you to recognize a mistake when you make it again. Winamp currently playing: Nothing! Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Mailwasher Pro Thebat
Hello, Any users of Mailwasher Pro with TB! here? Just curious about how it works with TB!. Good and bad experiences. -- Darrin WinXP Home Service Pack 1 Tbat! 2.12.00 From C:\*.* to shining C:\*.* pgpEFWSV85WdO.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mailwasher Pro Thebat
Hello Darrin, Tuesday, August 3, 2004, 2:34:45 PM, you wrote: DR Hello, DR Any users of Mailwasher Pro with TB! here? Just curious about how it DR works with TB!. Good and bad experiences. Works Fine for me on 4.1.7.5 -- Best regards, dangermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mailwasher Pro Thebat
Hello Darrin! On Tuesday, August 03, 2004, 1:34 PM, you wrote: DR Any users of Mailwasher Pro with TB! here? ... I used MailWasher Pro before I ever got The Bat! I still have it on my machine, but it's only as a back-up in case anything (I hope nothing and never) should cause me to have to go back to Outlook Express temporarily. I ran MailWasher Pro with The Bat! for awhile. No problems. But I don't do that any more. It's redundant, in my opinion--I can do everything that MailWasher does using The Bat! all by itself. -- Best regards, Mary :Mary: The Bat! 2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mailwasher Pro Thebat
Hi Mary, On 8/3/2004 12:43 PM my time, Mary wrote: MB I ran MailWasher Pro with The Bat! for awhile. No problems. But I MB don't do that any more. It's redundant, in my opinion--I can do MB everything that MailWasher does using The Bat! all by itself. Thanks for the input. I havent installed it myself, so Im unaware of its features. -- Darrin WinXP Home Service Pack 1 Tbat! 2.12.00 Is reading in the bathroom considered Multi-Tasking? pgpIoJsY17ZTu.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mailwasher Pro Thebat
Hello Darrin! On Tuesday, August 03, 2004, 2:55 PM, you wrote: MB I ran MailWasher Pro with The Bat! for awhile. ... DR Thanks for the input. I havent installed it myself, so Im unaware of DR its features. Basically MailWasher lets you manage your POP3 mail on the server. The Bat! also has that capability. -- Best regards, Mary :Mary: The Bat! 2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mailwasher Pro Thebat
Hi Mary, On 8/3/2004 1:06 PM my time, Mary wrote: MB Basically MailWasher lets you manage your POP3 mail on the server. The MB Bat! also has that capability. Ok, I see. Thanks for clearing that up. Save me a download there :p -- Darrin WinXP Home Service Pack 1 Tbat! 2.12.00 Stack Overflow: Too many pancakes... pgpp8WLUtHz6i.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mailwasher Pro Thebat
Hi Simon, On 8/3/2004 2:48 PM my time, Simon wrote: SF Mailwasher [4.1.7.5] not only checks the mail on the server [POP or SF IMAP] but also has White/Blacklist, Bayesian Filtering/Learning, SF Blacklist (e.g. sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org) checking and lastly their own SF Spam Altert service titled First Alert which is a £3.50 (UK Pounds)a SF year subscription service contianing details of known and identified SF Spam. Many features. I might have to download a trial version to see it. Can Domains be deleted from server just using TB! by itself? I know I can delete specific senders. SF I've had superb 99.9% results with K9, but, I'm running Mailwasher SF right now and can vouch for it's Spam detection abilities too Ive also experimented with K9. Very pleased with the spam detection. -- Darrin WinXP Home Service Pack 1 Tbat! 2.12.00 Computer Science: solving today's problems tomorrow. pgpIzdmGOyYME.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mailwasher Pro Thebat
Darrin wrote: DR Any users of Mailwasher Pro with TB! here? ... Mary replied: I ran MailWasher Pro with The Bat! for awhile. No problems. But I don't do that any more. It's redundant, in my opinion--I can do everything that MailWasher does using The Bat! all by itself. I use MailWasher and The Bat, successfully, too. However, I find Mary's comment interesting in that I use MW to look at my mail on the server and delete it there: saves me having to download 100+ spam messages needlessly. I take it, Mary, that you aren't bothered about downloading spam? (Not that this is an implied criticism, note!) Best wishes, Iain. -- Iain Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mailwasher Pro Thebat
Hello Simon, SF Mailwasher [4.1.7.5] not only checks the mail on the server [POP SF or IMAP] but also has White/Blacklist, Bayesian SF Filtering/Learning, Blacklist (e.g. sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org) checking SF and lastly their own Spam Altert service titled First Alert SF which is a £3.50 (UK Pounds)a year subscription service contianing SF details of known and identified Spam. SF I've had superb 99.9% results with K9, but, I'm running Mailwasher SF right now and can vouch for it's Spam detection abilities too And I can second that. It's worth the money for the First Alert system alone where thousands of users are reporting spam back to a central server. The upshot is that most of the spam I get is already marked Known Spam and deleted before it even gets to the Bat. Using Mailwasher, hardly any spam at all gets through and most of it is marked deletion when it arrives in Mailwasher. It's much more effective, as far as I'm concerned, than filtering using the Bat. -- Best regards, Mike Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mailwasher Pro Thebat
Hello Iain! On Tuesday, August 03, 2004, 4:58 PM, you wrote: IDB I use MailWasher and The Bat, successfully, too. However, I find IDB Mary's comment interesting in that I use MW to look at my mail on IDB the server and delete it there: saves me having to download 100+ IDB spam messages needlessly. That's what I do with The Bat!'s Dispatcher--I look at each mail's headers and manually mark for download the ones I want. The rest are deleted on the server. IDB I take it, Mary, that you aren't bothered about downloading spam? I never download Spam. Admittedly, I am lucky, I get offered, at most, one or two Spams a day. This week Ive been offered three of those lists of nonsense words, which I understand are an attempt at propagating an e-mail virus. The needs of business users and people who get more mail than I do may be different. On principle, I am against blacklists and bouncing mail. I think the best course is to simply delete unwanted mail. I can't remember an unwanted advertisement getting through to me since my latest change of address (to go on broadband). And before that it was a rare occasion to receive Spam here. (I like to get Amazon's announcements that they've shipped my books or DVDS. :) ) -- Best regards, Mary :Mary: The Bat! 2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mailwasher Pro Thebat
Hi malexander, On 8/3/2004 2:59 PM my time, malexander wrote: m And I can second that. It's worth the money for the First Alert m system alone where thousands of users are reporting spam back to a m central server. The upshot is that most of the spam I get is already m marked Known Spam and deleted before it even gets to the Bat. Using m Mailwasher, hardly any spam at all gets through and most of it is m marked deletion when it arrives in Mailwasher. It's much more m effective, as far as I'm concerned, than filtering using the Bat. Thanks. I have a better understanding of the first alert now. Im going to read up on it a bit more at the website. -- Darrin WinXP Home Service Pack 1 Tbat! 2.12.00 If debugging is the process of removing bugs, then programming must be the process of putting them in. pgpqBPg1PeF9H.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mailwasher Pro Thebat
Tuesday, August 3, 2004, 5:59:50 PM, malexander wrote: malexander And I can second that. It's worth the money for the First malexander Alert system alone where thousands of users are reporting malexander spam back to a central server. The upshot is that most of malexander the spam I get is already marked Known Spam and deleted malexander before it even gets to the Bat. Using Mailwasher, hardly malexander any spam at all gets through and most of it is marked malexander deletion when it arrives in Mailwasher. It's much more malexander effective, as far as I'm concerned, than filtering using malexander the Bat. Bellsouth is my ISP and I use their mail servers and their MailGard option. So far it has caught almost all of the spam that shows up in my mailbox. Maybe one a day gets through. Out of 350 spam messages in three days only one made it to TheBat!, knock on wood (as he raps himself beside the head with his knuckles). The rest were dealt with on the server by MailGard where I have the option of viewing them to make sure none were really ham or letting the process delete them automatically. I have no idea what MailGard is, but it works. I tried BayesFilters and BayesIt out of curiosity for a while, but they were much more work and no better than the filter provided by Bellsouth. -- Regards, Plan9 Two strings walk into a bar. The first string says to the bartender: Bartender, I'll have a beer. u.5n$x5t?*4ru!2[sACC~ErJ. The second string says: Pardon my friend, he isn't NULL terminated. Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mailwasher Pro Thebat
Hi, Darrin, DR Any users of Mailwasher Pro with TB! here? Just curious about how it DR works with TB!. Good and bad experiences. I'm using the earlier free Mailwasher with TB (I haven't upgraded because the free version does all I want it to do). It worked seamlessly until recently, when I started having the send-mail problems I've been complaining about for days. It still works well, but there are a couple of glitches I can't seem to get rid of. For me, being able to delete suspect messages from the server and not even download them is a big plus. :) -- Anna Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mailwasher Pro Thebat
Hello Anna! On Tuesday, August 03, 2004, 6:44 PM, you wrote: A For me, being able to delete suspect messages from the server and A not even download them is a big plus. :) That is exactly what The Bat!'s Message Dispatcher lets me do. :) -- Best regards, Mary :Mary: The Bat! 2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mailwasher Pro Thebat
Hello Ian! On Tuesday, August 03, 2004, 7:55 PM, you wrote: MB That is exactly what The Bat!'s Message Dispatcher lets me do. :) IAW The problem with the Message Dispatcher is that it does not classify IAW the messages based on the filters. Mailwasher does and by sorting on IAW the status, the filtered messages are grouped ... I see. As I wrote in an earlier post, my method will probably not suit many people. I like to look at my messages chronologically. And I like to examine the headers on each one. Then I decide what to download and what to delete. Most of my mail is from the three TB! lists I'm subscribed to, plus tbot, plus a scattering of mail from family and personal friends. It's rare for me to have more than 100 mails at a time to look at--usually it's 20 to 50. It is rare for me to see a Spam or a suspicious virus-trojan looking mail among them. I have the time and the inclination to do it this way. I'm most grateful that The Bat! affords me this capability. When I get my mail filtered to its various folders, I still don't read by threads. I read the mail in each folder chronologically, oldest to latest. But that's just me. Everyone else's mileage obviously varies. And that's the beauty of The Bat!--it's so flexible, to meet a variety of different needs, and it works well with so many other good programs, like MailWasher. -- Best regards, Mary :Mary: The Bat! 2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mailwasher
22 December 2002, 05:03, you wrote: RW I keep my mail on the server for 5 days just in case and RW Mailwasher gets all messages each time it logs on It's working as designed. Mailwasher is looking at messages on the server and if you're keeping them there, then it will download the headers! -- Clive Taylor Using The Bat! v1.61 Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mailwasher
Hello Clive, On Sun, 22 Dec 2002 at 08:13:16[GMT +](which was 08:13 where I live) you wrote: It's working as designed. Mailwasher is looking at messages on the server and if you're keeping them there, then it will download the headers! Oh. Thanks. -- Best regards, Richard Using The Bat! version 1.62 Beta/17 Windows 2000 (build 2195), version 5.0 Service Pack 3 and using the best browser: Opera Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Mailwasher
Hello, After favourable reports I'm giving Mailwasher programme a try but one thing I can't find any information about. I keep my mail on the server for 5 days just in case and Mailwasher gets all messages each time it logs on, not exactly an efficient way to work! Is there a way to make it ignore messages that it has already looked at or have I missed something glaringly obvious? -- Best regards, Richard Using The Bat! version 1.62 Beta/17 Windows 2000 (build 2195), version 5.0 Service Pack 3 and using the best browser: Opera Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)
Hi Marck, Your SpamCop filters work great now. I've reported 32 spammers so far in just two days (should I be glad or sad? :) I haven't had any responses from ISP's yet. From what I understand, SpamCop will forward those to me. I was thinking that maybe I should use the comment field in the reports to inform the spammer that it was me who turned them in, and that they'd better take me off their mailing lists or I'll do it again. What do you think? They might bombard me with hate mail instead :) In closing: Whenever spamcop.bat is run, it leaves a DOS window on my screen that has to be closed manually. I just solved this minor annoyance by putting @echo off as the first line in the template for Spamcop.bat. Best, -Daan- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Daniel, @21 June 2002, 02:11:23 +0200 (01:11 UK time) Daniel van Rooijen [CopyCats] wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] In closing: Whenever spamcop.bat is run, it leaves a DOS window on my screen that has to be closed manually. I just solved this minor annoyance by putting @echo off as the first line in the template for Spamcop.bat. Another method is to look at the Properties of the remaining (finished) DOS window and check Close window when finished (is that what it's called?). It will remember that setting for next time. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.60q-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7a-nr2b1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9En32OeQkq5KdzaARAta2AJ9fw6phYQK9TyL8RUB37PoyGCu34ACePh2N pu5Zxx+0sHaRAep7OYvQTPs= =nUOc -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)
Hi Marck, All such bounce messages do, no matter how well intentioned or formed, is inform the spammer that the message got through. Oh boy.. Thanks for the enlightenment!! :) I'm now trying those Spamcop filters from the TB FAQ, but I'm not sure if they work as intended. Here's what I found: - Shouldn't the first stage filter (that creates a spam submission message) be set to manual only? Wouldn't it otherwise automatically respond to any incoming message that fulfills the criterion of having a '.' in its kludges? Of course the Ctrl-Alt-S trigger is also set, but I don't know if that will override automatic execution.. - The file to export to (C:\TEMP\EXPORT.TXT) was set correctly when I pasted the filter into the sorting office, but the Export to File action itself was not activated. Also, append to existing file was set, which I think will inadvertently report any previously sent spam along with the current spam message. I've changed that into overwrite. The export format was Text, is that alright? The quote kludges was Off, and I've turned that on. I hope I made the correct changes (and if so, maybe the author of the filter should update this FAQ section?). I'm using TB 1.60q. Best regards, -Daan- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Daniel, @18 June 2002, 14:38:09 +0200 (13:38 UK time) Daniel van Rooijen [CopyCats] wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks for the enlightenment!! :) A pleasure :-) I'm now trying those Spamcop filters from the TB FAQ, but I'm not sure if they work as intended. Here's what I found: - Shouldn't the first stage filter (that creates a spam submission message) be set to manual only? Wouldn't it otherwise automatically respond to any incoming message that fulfills the criterion of having a '.' in its kludges? Yes it would! Of course the Ctrl-Alt-S trigger is also set, but I don't know if that will override automatic execution.. Yes - it should be manual. It actually has the faoManualOnly flag and should be pasted as a manual filter. Perhaps there's a bug in the filter paste function? - The file to export to (C:\TEMP\EXPORT.TXT) was set correctly when I pasted the filter into the sorting office, but the Export to File action itself was not activated. Also, append to existing file was set, which I think will inadvertently report any previously sent spam along with the current spam message. I've changed that into overwrite. The export format was Text, is that alright? The quote kludges was Off, and I've turned that on. Again, the filter source says: faExport,faoExportOver,faoExportKludges All of which seem to have failed to import correctly :-(. I hope I made the correct changes (and if so, maybe the author of the filter should update this FAQ section?). Who, me? (I am both the author of the filter and the maintainer of the FAQ g). I'll have to annotate the filter to say that it may not import correctly. What a pain! - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.60q-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7a-nr2b1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9Dy8qOeQkq5KdzaARApbiAJ9jwWWHNj3qTPICBhxDs1Gep8sc1wCgz/E9 rBYxrx5jNg0Y6fPYrgHDwjE= =fgfM -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)
Hi Marck, MDP I always report to SpamCop (there are some nice filters for doing MDP this published on the FAQ) The second stage filter doesn't work right for me either.. it finds the incoming confirmation from Spamcop, then exports the whole message to spamcop.bat and tries to execute it! :) The error seems to be in the export template, which looks like: =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From:#OFromName #OFromAddr To: #OToName #OToAddr Date:#ODateEn, #OTimeLongEn Subject: #OSubj Files: #Attachments --===-- #Text =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= (I have replaced the % signs by # to prevent execution within this message) I suspect there's some incompatibility between these SpamCop filters (from http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/howdoi.html) and TB 1.60q. Do you have a working version of the export template for spamcop.bat? Best, -Daan- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Daniel, @18 June 2002, 14:38:09 +0200 (13:38 UK time) Daniel van Rooijen [CopyCats] wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ... The export format was Text, is that alright? Just spotted this - no, it should be Unix. What a pig's ear! :-( (not your fault at all). - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.60q-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7a-nr2b1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9DzBLOeQkq5KdzaARAkojAJsElUfeLRqdmhFoD3pJecZ74m5KzQCeOmCg FDh5Jf20b67aLu8R/quohFQ= =orQC -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)
Hi Marck, MDP Perhaps there's a bug in the filter paste function? Or I have missed something, so don't redo the filters just yet.. I couldn't find a Paste button or anything like it in the Sorting Office, so I simply pressed Ctrl-V. Have I been stupid again? O :-) Best regards, -Daan- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)
Marck D Pearlstone [MDP] wrote: MDP All of which seem to have failed to import correctly :-(. Ehm. Someone else already mentioned (maybe on the german mailing lists) that this problems are caused by some unwanted linebreaks on the faq page. 1st Filter: after Actions 2nd Filter: after SaveTemplate If you paste the filters in your text editor and remove the linebreaks everything works fine. -- Gruß, Matthias Death is God's way of telling you not to be such a wise guy. Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Daniel, @18 June 2002, 15:15:27 +0200 (14:15 UK time) Daniel van Rooijen [CopyCats] wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MDP Perhaps there's a bug in the filter paste function? Or I have missed something, so don't redo the filters just yet.. I couldn't find a Paste button or anything like it in the Sorting Office, so I simply pressed Ctrl-V. Have I been stupid again? O :-) Nope. You done good! The How to says to use Ctrl-V. Actually, I just tried it and it's completely hit and miss! Sometimes it pastes 100% correctly, sometimes not. Here they are again: ,-=[ Ctrl-Alt-S Filter ]- BeginFilter Name: Submit spam to SpamCop Source: \Inbox Target: \Trash CopyFolder: none MainSet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Actions: faMarkRead,faNewMsg,faExport,faoExportOver,faoExportKludges,faoManualOnly,faoHotKey,faoSaveUnix NewAddr: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NewTemplate: %put\3D\27C:\5Ctemp\5Cexport.txt\27\0D\0A ExtFile: C:\temp\export.txt HotKey: 49235 EndFilter ` ,-=[ Spamcop reply Intercept ]- BeginFilter Name: SpamCop AutoResponder Source: \Inbox Target: \Trash CopyFolder: none MainSet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MainSet: 20SpamCop has accepted Actions: faMarkRead,faExport,faExternal,faoExportOver,faoWaitCompletion ExtCmd: C:\temp\spamcop.bat ExtFile: C:\temp\spamcop.bat SaveTemplate: \22c:\5CProgram\20Files\5CInternet\20Explorer\5CIEXPLORE.EXE\22\20%REGEXPTEXT\3D\22http://\5CS*\22\0D\0A EndFilter ` - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.60q-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7a-nr2b1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9DzWXOeQkq5KdzaARArGwAJwPbuAPIVvbF+dYXvRAC5FSjHTJWQCfcvV0 kmKjg1WbnrCc9qthzDMCHuM= =nt7q -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)
Hi Matthias, MA Ehm. Someone else already mentioned (maybe on the german mailing MA lists) that this problems are caused by some unwanted linebreaks on MA the faq page. Oops - that makes sense. I don't know why I didn't notice! I'll try again without the linebreaks and see how I fare.. Your name sounds German, so you may be a frequent user of Umlauts. Can I ask you a question? When I try to enter a high-ascii character using Alt-nnn, the Bat doesn't enter the character but instead performs all sorts of system functions (menu's pop up, etc). Do you know of a way to turn this off? Mit freundlichem Gruss aus Holland, -Daniel- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Marck, @18 June 2002, 14:28:53 +0100 Marck D Pearlstone wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Here they are again: The MainSet property is wrong: MainSet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ,-=[ Try again :-( ]- BeginFilter Name: Submit spam to SpamCop Source: \Inbox Target: \Trash CopyFolder: none MainSet: 40. Actions:faMarkRead,faNewMsg,faExport,faoExportOver,faoExportKludges,faoManualOnly,faoHotKey,faoSaveUnix NewAddr: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NewTemplate: %put\3D\27C:\5Ctemp\5Cexport.txt\27\0D\0A ExtFile: C:\temp\export.txt HotKey: 49235 EndFilter ` - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.60q-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7a-nr2b1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9Dze5OeQkq5KdzaARAlREAKCuxopw2r2KswuyPSf+91aAG7Ov1ACgpwJi 81q8QoxhTJtUJ/RuQs/ZveU= =tYXV -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)
Hello Daniel, On Tuesday, June 18, 2002 at 3:35:11 PM you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part): DvRC When I try to enter a high-ascii character using DvRC Alt-nnn, the Bat doesn't enter the character but instead performs all DvRC sorts of system functions (menu's pop up, etc). Do you know of a way DvRC to turn this off? Is there a small chance you have turned 'NumLock' off and don't keep 'Alt' pressed while trying to enter the character codes? I can create exactly the same behavior you're describing if I do so ... -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) Were there fewer fools, knaves would starve. - Anonymous Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)
Hi Marck, MDP Nope. You done good! The How to says to use Ctrl-V. Actually, I just MDP tried it and it's completely hit and miss! Matthias' hint about the broken lines on the website was right on target - I've got the filters working now. However, I had to make a small change to the second stage export template for the spamcop.bat file. I turned the part where you check for http://\S*; into http://spamcop.net/sc\S*;. The reason is that Spamcop's confirmations to me contain several instances of http://;, and the first one (that the template catches) leads to a page with an offer to upgrade my Spamcop account to a paid one.. Here's what it said: PLEASE HELP SUPPORT THIS SERVICE! SpamCop is free. However, if you like the service please pay for it: http://spamcop.net/upgradeaccount.shtml?EWmxUXyY13zmNWJo SpamCop is now ready to process your spam. Use links to finish spam reporting: http://spamcop.net/sc?id=z40442472ze7b89484a95a9a956b620bf34c203bbdz So, the export filter didn't catch the right URL and sent me to the upgrade offer instead (which I may well take later on). Thanks for your help!! -Daan- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)
Hello Marck, On Tue, 18 Jun 2002 14:28:53 +0100 GMT (18/06/02, 20:28 +0700 GMT), Marck D Pearlstone wrote: MDP ,-=[ Spamcop reply Intercept ]- [...] MDP SaveTemplate: MDP \22c:\5CProgram\20Files\5CInternet\20Explorer\5CIEXPLORE.EXE\22\20%REGEXPTEXT\3D\22http://\5CS*\22\0D\0A This is the line break I advised a member on the German list to delete. You might want to mention this in the FAQ. I have a new problem with SpamCop: Instead of a web page with the header info and the choice which postmasters to send the spam report to, the second filter now opens a web page that suggests Upgrade to a paid SpamCop account. What is that about, I wonder? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Ambition is a poor excuse for not having enough sense to be lazy. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.60q under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Thomas, @18 June 2002, 20:53:15 +0700 (14:53 UK time) Thomas F wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MDP SaveTemplate: MDP \22c:\5CProgram\20Files\5CInternet\20Explorer\5CIEXPLORE.EXE\22\20%REGEXPTEXT\3D\22http://\5CS*\22\0D\0A This is the line break I advised a member on the German list to delete. You might want to mention this in the FAQ. I won't need to - I'll be republishing it without the *space* after the SaveTemplate causing auto-wrap! I have a new problem with SpamCop: Instead of a web page with the header info and the choice which postmasters to send the spam report to, the second filter now opens a web page that suggests Upgrade to a paid SpamCop account. What is that about, I wonder? As Dann suggests, the regexp filter needs enhancing to: http://spamcop.net/sc\S*. SpamCop have changed the format of the notification message for free accounts :-(. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.60q-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7a-nr2b1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9D0DWOeQkq5KdzaARAp93AJ0Z9KRYy7PipdmERq2kMZOOkFDf1gCfVCA7 /sM9buvYBCpJOKjjzzdbyIw= =ZRUY -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)
Hi Peter, PP Is there a small chance you have turned 'NumLock' off and don't keep PP 'Alt' pressed while trying to enter the character codes?. I am keeping Alt pressed down, but you're right about Numlock - it is off (as it should be!! :-) When I turn Numlock on, Alt-nnn and Alt- works fine.. Best, -Daan- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)
On Tuesday, June 18, 2002, Marck D Pearlstone wrote... Nope. You done good! The How to says to use Ctrl-V. Actually, I just tried it and it's completely hit and miss! Sometimes it pastes 100% correctly, sometimes not. Here they are again: snip Call me stupid... but I cannot get those to work... I've pasted the filter into my filters list, and when I got to run the CTRL ALT S, it exports the text file fine... but never sends anything... I've checked on the server, and the sent items, but nothing... what am I missing? -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Jonathan, @18 June 2002, 09:29:09 -0500 (15:29 UK time) Jonathan Angliss wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Call me stupid... but I cannot get those to work... I've pasted the filter into my filters list, and when I got to run the CTRL ALT S, it exports the text file fine... but never sends anything... I've checked on the server, and the sent items, but nothing... what am I missing? Pass - try doing a Ctrl-C on the filter in the filter list then a Ctrl-V into a replay to this message so we can see what you've actually got in the filter. It works fine for those not stumbling over bad wrapping. Actually, that may be the problem anyway: if your viewer wrapped the lines then the pasted filter may be messed up. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.60q-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7a-nr2b1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9D0YAOeQkq5KdzaARAlRHAJ9nS98zPuSQZ90h1QmeDCiiOkmGXwCfWVNv KZNotDz1lVeP1jdXTs2BBuw= =ML0a -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)
On Tuesday, June 18, 2002, Marck D Pearlstone wrote... Pass - try doing a Ctrl-C on the filter in the filter list then a Ctrl-V into a replay to this message so we can see what you've actually got in the filter. It works fine for those not stumbling over bad wrapping. Oddly enough, it was the first thing I checked for, pasted it into an external editor, removed wrappings from the settings, and everything was fine... but here it is: BeginFilter Name: Submit spam to SpamCop Active: 1 Source: \\\Spam Target: \\\Spam\Forwarded Spam CopyFolder: none MainSet: 40. Actions: faNewMsg,faExport,faoExportOver,faoExportKludges,faoManualOnly,faoHotKey,faoSaveUnix AddGroups: DelGroups: ForwardTemplate: ConfirmTemplate: ReplyTemplate: FwdAddr: RedirectAddr: NewAddr: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NewTemplate: %put\3D\27C:\5Cexport.txt\27\0D\0A ExtCmd: ExtFile: C:\export.txt ExtractDir: ColourGroup: default AddAddrItems: afiFrom, DelAddrItems: afiFrom, HotKey: 49235 IsOfColour: default SizeBigger: 0 SizeSmaller: 0 AgeOlder: 0 AgeNewer: 0 InAddrPos: 0 OutAddrPos: 0 InAddrGroups: NoAddrGroups: KillFile: KillMethod: 0 SaveTemplate: SndFile: SysSound: 0 SoundTime: 0:00-0:00 AllowTime: 0:00-0:00 EndFilter TIA :) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Jonathan, @18 June 2002, 09:45:04 -0500 (15:45 UK time) Jonathan Angliss wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Oddly enough, it was the first thing I checked for, pasted it into an external editor, removed wrappings from the settings, and everything was fine... but here it is: BeginFilter Name: Submit spam to SpamCop Active: 1 Source: \\\Spam Target: \\\Spam\Forwarded Spam CopyFolder: none MainSet: 40. Actions: faNewMsg,faExport,faoExportOver,faoExportKludges,faoManualOnly,faoHotKey,faoSaveUnix AddGroups: DelGroups: ForwardTemplate: ConfirmTemplate: ReplyTemplate: FwdAddr: RedirectAddr: NewAddr: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NewTemplate: %put\3D\27C:\5Cexport.txt\27\0D\0A ExtCmd: ExtFile: C:\export.txt snip ... and it's perfect (apart from not marking the spam as Read). I have no idea why that wouldn't create a message for you. It should be queued in the outbox of whichever account is active and sent on the next send cycle. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.60q-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7a-nr2b1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9D0t9OeQkq5KdzaARAub1AJ4iW2Je3lUAdx5Lk8B/JM+1dutvuACdGXHP rHEjNgaC768mT4MuDGQOlqA= =/8j0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)
On Tuesday, June 18, 2002, Marck D Pearlstone wrote... snip ... and it's perfect (apart from not marking the spam as Read). I have no idea why that wouldn't create a message for you. It should be queued in the outbox of whichever account is active and sent on the next send cycle. Is the fact that it's a common folder have any affect? Plus it's not marking it as read, because all mail that has been marked as spam by the server gets dumped into a common folder, and marked as read... I then process at a later time... would that affect it as well? -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Jonathan, @18 June 2002, 10:07:31 -0500 (16:07 UK time) Jonathan Angliss wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ... and it's perfect (apart from not marking the spam as Read). I have no idea why that wouldn't create a message for you. It should be queued in the outbox of whichever account is active and sent on the next send cycle. Is the fact that it's a common folder have any affect? Yes Yes YES! (sorry - didn't mean to yell, just got excited). You need to enhance the template to include a %ACCOUNT=main to provide a sending account! ... dumped into a common folder, and marked as read... I then process at a later time... would that affect it as well? No. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.60q-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7a-nr2b1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9D1LXOeQkq5KdzaARAhQiAKDL6NGvX/bkxDnGMgq83ADog6nCBACeMGPe OXGGZumH0ZCUts+VAtqoSQE= =Roaf -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)
On Tuesday, June 18, 2002, Marck D Pearlstone wrote... Is the fact that it's a common folder have any affect? Yes Yes YES! (sorry - didn't mean to yell, just got excited). You need to enhance the template to include a %ACCOUNT=main to provide a sending account! Modified... now I just have to wait for the inevitable spam ;) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Jonathan, @18 June 2002, 10:38:29 -0500 (16:38 UK time) Jonathan Angliss wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Is the fact that it's a common folder have any affect? Yes Yes YES! (sorry - didn't mean to yell, just got excited). You need to enhance the template to include a %ACCOUNT=main to provide a sending account! Modified... now I just have to wait for the inevitable spam ;) ... or retrieve an earlier one from the Forwarded Spam folder ... ;-) - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.60q-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7a-nr2b1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9D1ZSOeQkq5KdzaARAttUAJ9I337Is5JBIR9e4/FwLxa164IOnQCfZeaK ZhYYT1KdxXN+Eqc/9CMj3OA= =EGyS -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)
On Tuesday, June 18, 2002, Marck D Pearlstone wrote... Modified... now I just have to wait for the inevitable spam ;) ... or retrieve an earlier one from the Forwarded Spam folder ... ;-) True... just be resubmitting it... just cancel the post -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Jonathan, @18 June 2002, 10:52:32 -0500 (16:52 UK time) Jonathan Angliss wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ... or retrieve an earlier one from the Forwarded Spam folder ... ;-) True... just be resubmitting it... just cancel the post ... I thought we'd determined that the submission didn't happen because no account was specified to send it from ... or did you do it by hand anyway? - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.60q-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7a-nr2b1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9D1gpOeQkq5KdzaARAoBAAKCxOeRTqHdvBROal/Mv9SkWhwQdagCcCgW5 mjJWronHxXK0CD2TZqcDV54= =oIDf -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)
On Tuesday, June 18, 2002, Marck D Pearlstone wrote... ... I thought we'd determined that the submission didn't happen because no account was specified to send it from ... or did you do it by hand anyway? I did them all as a batch by hand... using ALT SHIFT F5, then putting in the SpamCop address... the same way I've been doing it since signing up. Just tested it again *with* %ACCOUNT='accountname' in the template for the rule, and it still didn't send... any other ideas? or did I put it in the wrong place? -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Jonathan, @18 June 2002, 11:01:49 -0500 (17:01 UK time) Jonathan Angliss wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ... I thought we'd determined that the submission didn't happen because no account was specified to send it from ... or did you do it by hand anyway? I did them all as a batch by hand... using ALT SHIFT F5, then putting in the SpamCop address... the same way I've been doing it since signing up. Just tested it again *with* %ACCOUNT='accountname' in the template for the rule, and it still didn't send... any other ideas? or did I put it in the wrong place? Dunno. I have mine in the create message template that already as put='c:\temp\export.txt' in it. I use this construct myself because I filter my spam to an account called Anti-Spam that has no related POP3/SMTP servers. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.60q-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7a-nr2b1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9D1qZOeQkq5KdzaARAoVbAJ90G9Qr2sbC7x74TS9o8IQ8hCCpkwCgj4q6 SGJIWwEyMru/DqAwsknyQVc= =Z7GH -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)
On Tuesday, June 18, 2002, Marck D Pearlstone wrote... Dunno. I have mine in the create message template that already as put='c:\temp\export.txt' in it. I use this construct myself because I filter my spam to an account called Anti-Spam that has no related POP3/SMTP servers. That is where I put it, but no luck still... I guess an extra key combo isn't going to kill me ;) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Jonathan, @18 June 2002, 11:13:08 -0500 (17:13 UK time) Jonathan Angliss wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] That is where I put it, but no luck still... I guess an extra key combo isn't going to kill me ;) Okay. Next step. Shut down and restart your system. I actually submitted a bug to the BugTraq about Create message filters not working at one point. After the next reboot, they worked perfectly and I could never replicate the problem again. The bug was removed from the traqqer without resolution. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.60q-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7a-nr2b1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9D16TOeQkq5KdzaARAiRrAKDcUHaRxzDV5Z6tzOjPKyoT3zuMbwCfVyvF XUARQxKOq9WwkUcBFczT3+4= =BQGz -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)
On Tuesday, June 18, 2002, Marck D Pearlstone wrote... Okay. Next step. Shut down and restart your system. I actually submitted a bug to the BugTraq about Create message filters not working at one point. After the next reboot, they worked perfectly and I could never replicate the problem again. The bug was removed from the traqqer without resolution. Heh... I'll be damned... that worked fine. Nice lil' filter works... just going to put the other one in too, and I should be all okay to handle spam nearly automatically ;) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)
Hi Marck. At 11:33 AM on Tuesday, June 18, 2002 you wrote the following about [SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)]: MDP [...] You need to enhance the template to include a MDP %ACCOUNT=main to provide a sending account! [/...] What is this ACCOUNT=main? Haven't seen that before. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V1.60q/W2K_SP2 ICQ 41116329 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)
On Tuesday, June 18, 2002, Jan Rifkinson wrote... Hi Marck. MDP [...] You need to enhance the template to include a MDP %ACCOUNT=main to provide a sending account! [/...] What is this ACCOUNT=main? Haven't seen that before. %ACCOUNT is a macro... just replace main with the name of the account you wish to send from... its used in templates. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Jan, @18 June 2002, 13:08:27 -0400 (18:08 UK time) Jan Rifkinson wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MDP [...] You need to enhance the template to include a MDP %ACCOUNT=main to provide a sending account! [/...] What is this ACCOUNT=main? Haven't seen that before. main was just a for example. Mine is %ACCOUNT=Marck. Jonathan knew what I meant, fortunately. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.60q-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7a-nr2b1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9D3NTOeQkq5KdzaARAguXAJ9XwBEfbjwnX+ErBY3G5wXQcpCB5wCfSniv I3UbXzgwST4muk5DAn1+QoM= =61S+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)
Hello Marck, On Tue, 18 Jun 2002 15:16:51 +0100 GMT (18/06/02, 21:16 +0700 GMT), Marck D Pearlstone wrote: MDP As Dann suggests, the regexp filter needs enhancing to: MDP http://spamcop.net/sc\S*. SpamCop have changed the format of the MDP notification message for free accounts :-(. Thanks. Works. :-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. The trouble with doing something right the first time is that nobody appreciates how difficult it was. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.60q under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Thomas, @18 June 2002, 03:16:11 +0700 (21:16 UK time) Thomas F wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MDP As Dann suggests, the regexp filter needs enhancing to: MDP http://spamcop.net/sc\S*. SpamCop have changed the format of the MDP notification message for free accounts :-(. Thanks. Works. :-) ... but not for paid accounts (like mine) :-( This does though g: http://\S*spamcop.net/sc\S* - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.60q-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7a-nr2b1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9D5g6OeQkq5KdzaARAs8yAKCI+rvuGwecjTVsXmcw5DpGqyw75gCfcEzI 3WKkC1EcL3szXoUHavsigL8= =f7r1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday, June 18, 2002, 4:29 PM, you wrote: MDP As Dann suggests, the regexp filter needs enhancing to: MDP http://spamcop.net/sc\S*. SpamCop have changed the format of the MDP notification message for free accounts :-(. Thanks. Works. :-) MDP ... but not for paid accounts (like mine) :-( MDP This does though g: MDP http://\S*spamcop.net/sc\S* one more time, could you reply with the entire correct filter for that notifcation message for PAID accounts, I'd like to paste the entire correct filter and start over ;) thanks, / Paul Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBPQ+a8j3ZlJQqDEkFEQJybACgsh9ofbOIMzZlSy/DEtVnImTRf6QAn2e4 y9RzAVnf2zNAftDglU8AU556 =9wgI -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Paul, @18 June 2002, 16:41:19 -0400 (21:41 UK time) Paul Cartwright wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] one more time, could you reply with the entire correct filter for that notifcation message for PAID accounts, I'd like to paste the entire correct filter and start over ;) ,-=[ Submit - all flavours ]- BeginFilter Name: Submit spam to SpamCop Source: \Inbox Target: \Trash CopyFolder: none MainSet: 40. Actions:faMarkRead,faNewMsg,faExport,faoExportOver,faoExportKludges,faoManualOnly,faoHotKey,faoSaveUnix NewAddr: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NewTemplate: %put\3D\27C:\5Ctemp\5Cexport.txt\27\0D\0A ExtFile: C:\temp\export.txt HotKey: 49235 EndFilter ` ,-=[ Pick up reply - all flavours ]- BeginFilter Name: SpamCop AutoResponder Active: 1 Source: \Inbox Target: \Trash CopyFolder: none MainSet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MainSet: 20SpamCop has accepted Actions: faMarkRead,faExport,faExternal,faoExportOver,faoWaitCompletion ExtCmd: C:\temp\spamcop.bat ExtFile: C:\temp\spamcop.bat SaveTemplate:\22c:\5CProgram\20Files\5CInternet\20Explorer\5CIEXPLORE.EXE\22\20%-\0D\0A%REGEXPTEXT\3D\22http://\5CS*spamcop.net/sc\5CS*\22\0D\0A EndFilter ` - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.60q-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7a-nr2b1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9D6DZOeQkq5KdzaARAoTGAJ97SMC3dhwURVXRWchRaeaxLtGNagCdHVn3 i51C8N0NcA95n12w4XCipdM= =rju6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday, June 18, 2002, 5:06 PM, you wrote: MDP ,-=[ Pick up reply - all flavours ]- MDP BeginFilter MDP Name: SpamCop AutoResponder MDP Active: 1 MDP Source: \Inbox MDP Target: \Trash MDP CopyFolder: none MDP MainSet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MDP MainSet: 20SpamCop has accepted MDP Actions: faMarkRead,faExport,faExternal,faoExportOver,faoWaitCompletion MDP ExtCmd: C:\temp\spamcop.bat MDP ExtFile: C:\temp\spamcop.bat MDP SaveTemplate:\22c:\5CProgram\20Files\5CInternet\20Explorer\5CIEXPLORE.EXE\22\20%-\0D\0A%REGEXPTEXT\3D\22http://\5CS*spamcop.net/sc\5CS*\22\0D\0A MDP EndFilter but I don't see that change you were talking about. Isn't this the change area: MDP 22http://\5CS*spamcop.net/sc\5CS*\22\0D\0A here is your reply with that info: Thanks. Works. :-) ... but not for paid accounts (like mine) :-( This does though g: http://\S*spamcop.net/sc\S* - -so, should I replace: http://\5CS*spamcop.net/sc\5CS* with your line: http://\S*spamcop.net/sc\S* or am I looking in the wrong place? / Paul Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBPQ+m4z3ZlJQqDEkFEQJ7ZACfcUqiI7A94NIP0v7xu5DAF+dqjI4An0Vd bjpMunIb2cet6A3eMbO5e3sS =Rlk1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Paul, @18 June 2002, 17:32:14 -0400 (22:32 UK time) Paul Cartwright wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://\S*spamcop.net/sc\S* - -so, should I replace: http://\5CS*spamcop.net/sc\5CS* with your line: http://\S*spamcop.net/sc\S* or am I looking in the wrong place? It's a chalk and cheese issue.. http://\5CS*spamcop.net/sc\5CS*; is how a string looks when intended to be used as part of a copy/paste of an entire filter into the sorting office. http://\S*spamcop.net/sc\S*; is exactly the same, but what it looks like in the template in the filter. It's there for you to manually paste into an existing filter. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v1.60q-5523848F0B1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 2 ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7a-nr2b1 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE9D6pSOeQkq5KdzaARArigAJ9mroLqVk6jgFMvByhBPshm50s7PACfVV08 A/kKJVULq5iCz6on2/qxVcg= =Ryws -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)
Hi Marck. At 1:52 PM on Tuesday, June 18, 2002 you wrote the following about [SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)]: What is this ACCOUNT=main? Haven't seen that before. MDP main was just a for example. Mine is MDP %ACCOUNT=Marck. Jonathan knew what I meant, MDP fortunately. Whew. :-) -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V1.60q/W2K_SP2 ICQ 41116329 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)
On Tuesday, June 18, 2002, 5:46 PM, you wrote: MDP It's a chalk and cheese issue.. MDP http://\5CS*spamcop.net/sc\5CS*; is how a string looks when intended MDP to be used as part of a copy/paste of an entire filter into the MDP sorting office. MDP http://\S*spamcop.net/sc\S*; is exactly the same, but what it looks MDP like in the template in the filter. It's there for you to manually MDP paste into an existing filter. I wondered about that, which is why I asked. I noticed those paste lines, tried to setup the filter manually with that info, but it wasn't easy! Now I know WHY :) / Paul Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Alternatives to Mailwasher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Keith On 04 June 2002 at 13:12:51 -0400 (which was 18:12 where I live) Keith Hanlon emanated these words of wisdom I've been using TB for about a week now and I just love it. I downloaded as many Email apps as I could find and this was clearly the best. I was a Eudora user for years, but they want people to pay for Beta versions, and there's been a Windows 2000 bug that they don't want to fix. Oh well, their loss... My question: I've been using Mailwasher this week and I really like it. Is there an alternative that some of you guys would recommend? Maybe some filters or something? either (1) Filters go to http://download.work4theweb.com/Personal/ and look for a file called spam.zip. I think that there are instructions in there, and I can not remember who I got it from, so if they would like to own up!! or (2) SpamPal from http://www.twinlobber.org.uk/spampal/ It all depends on your needs. - -- See you in Cyber space, ___ David | SecureBat!1.60l | E-mailaholics | _| Win 2K Server 5.0.2195 SP2 | International | | Orville's a few Beta's short of a full release! | ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7a-nr1-rc2 (Windows 2000) iD8DBQE8/jVy+Yrx5mUPRTQRApa8AKC/+h0FkxFo5A2olpQ7c8mLztwihQCgzqmB g6gqEf/7Gdi1u7x3FvfMdyw= =psJn -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Alternatives to Mailwasher
I've been using TB for about a week now and I just love it. I downloaded as many Email apps as I could find and this was clearly the best. I was a Eudora user for years, but they want people to pay for Beta versions, and there's been a Windows 2000 bug that they don't want to fix. Oh well, their loss... My question: I've been using Mailwasher this week and I really like it. Is there an alternative that some of you guys would recommend? Maybe some filters or something? Thanks! Keith Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Alternatives to Mailwasher
Hello Keith Hanlon, In Reference to your Posting on Tuesday, June 04 2002 at 08:24 AM PDT, My question: I've been using Mailwasher this week and I really like it. Is there an alternative that some of you guys would recommend? Maybe some filters or something? Keith, if you want your question answered then it is best to start a new thread with a new subject heading, rather than simply replying to an existing thread and 'then' changing the subject. Your message is now buried within an existing thread that many may have decided not to read... and thereby miss your new subject. -- Nick Andriash Courtenay, B.C. Canada Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Alternatives to Mailwasher
Let's try this again... I was unaware of the reply to/change subject issue that effects threading... I've been using TB for about a week now and I just love it. I downloaded as many Email apps as I could find and this was clearly the best. I was a Eudora user for years, but they want people to pay for Beta versions, and there's been a Windows 2000 bug that they don't want to fix. Oh well, their loss... My question: I've been using Mailwasher this week and I really like it. Is there an alternative that some of you guys would recommend? Maybe some filters or something? Thanks! Keith PS Writing from work on a Mac... shame! Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Alternatives to Mailwasher
Hello Keith, Tuesday, June 4, 2002, 6:12:51 PM, you wrote: KH I've been using Mailwasher this week and I really like KH it. Is there an alternative that some of you guys would recommend? http://www.twinlobber.org.uk/spampal/ KH Maybe some filters or something? The filters are very powerful, and if configured correctly can probably achieve what u want. -- Best regards, Johnmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Alternatives to Mailwasher
Hello, Keith. On Tue, 4 Jun 2002 13:12:51 -0400 GMT your local time, which was Tuesday, June 04, 2002, 11:12 AM -0700 GMT here, you wrote: My question: I've been using Mailwasher this week and I really like it. Is there an alternative that some of you guys would recommend? Maybe some filters or something? Just curious...If you really like it, why are you looking for an alternative? Mailwasher also lets you easily set up filters. I have them set up for all my mailing lists so that messages to those lists are not flagged as spam. This is necessary because Spamcop, especially, has blacklisted so many domains (even Marck's, for example!). I've reached the point where MailWasher finds almost all the spam and I get very few false positives now. -- The Other Keith ...The longer the title, the less important the job. Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Alternatives to Mailwasher
Anyway, what does Mailwasher do? I don't know it. Any URL? Ah, I should have supplied a link: http://www.mailwasher.net/ It allows you to remove emails from the server before downloading them. It identifies spam (and possibly spam) for you. It will also send a bounce-back to the offending emails. Keith Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Alternatives to Mailwasher
Hello Keith, On Tue, 4 Jun 2002 11:24:41 -0400 GMT (04/06/02, 22:24 +0700 GMT), Keith Hanlon wrote: KH My question: I've been using Mailwasher this week and I really like KH it. Is there an alternative that some of you guys would recommend? KH Maybe some filters or something? I found your email by coincidence under the NOD32 thread, whcih I don't really follow. Anyway, what does Mailwasher do? I don't know it. Any URL? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Wednesday, the Ladies Liturgy Society will meet. Mrs. Jones will sing Put me in My Little Bed accompanied by the pastor. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.60n under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Alternatives to Mailwasher
Just curious...If you really like it, why are you looking for an alternative? Sometimes there are better programs and I don't know anything about them. I had no idea TB existed until I started asking around, checking out Google, CNet, etc. Sounds like MW might be just fine for me... but you never know! Keith Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com
Re: Alternatives to Mailwasher
Hello, Keith. On Tue, 4 Jun 2002 14:58:13 -0400 GMT your local time, which was Tuesday, June 04, 2002, 12:58 PM -0700 GMT here, you wrote: Sometimes there are better programs and I don't know anything about them. I had no idea TB existed until I started asking around, checking out Google, CNet, etc. Fair enought. Sounds like MW might be just fine for me... but you never know! MailWasher and SpamPal (which I've seen recommended but haven't tried) take quite different approaches to the problem. Feel free to try them both and let us know what you think! -- Keith Current Ver: 1.60m FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://bt.ritlabs.com