Re: Next/Prev action at end of list
On Thu, 10 Aug 2000 12:13:18 +0800, Thomas Fernandez wrote: SL Ungh. If I wanted to read like that I'd switch to Pine or Mutt and be SL done with it. Total lack of any indication of where new mail is? Nasty, SL nasty, nasty. TF I'd like to know how many unread messages are in the folder I'm TF currently viewing. That's also my reason to switch back to the main TF window every now and then. So, for me it's not "where" but "how many". This is why a status bar for the view folder window displaying the number of unread to total messages would help a great deal. -- -=A.C. Martin=-[TB! v1.46 Beta/3 «» Win2k Pro SP1] PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey "Always remember you're unique - just like everyone else. " -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Next/Prev action at end of list
Hi Curtis, On Thu, 10 Aug 2000 02:26:27 -0500GMT (10/08/2000, 15:26 +0800GMT), Curtis wrote: C This is why a status bar for the view folder window displaying the C number of unread to total messages would help a great deal. To the contrary, I would say a status bar for the view folder window displaying the number of unread to total messages would even be better. (Sorry for the pun; I don't know what the two professors called "Biehnlein" and "Bienlein" in the German translations of the late Tin-Tin comics are called in English, but if you love Tin-Tin, you will know what I mean: You said the same thing that I said in the message you replied to. And my message - ie the one you replied to - had already been not too different from what you had said in your message to which I had replied.) -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.45 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Next/Prev action at end of list
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tuesday, August 08, 2000, 10:48:21 PM, Curtis wrote: machine as we speak for cripes sake. I know exactly what you're both referring to. Just what is your problem Steve??!! My problem is most people get it wrong. There is no problems with the behavior it has. - -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. - ---+- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOZFQJ3pf7K2LbpnFEQK2oQCdESa76k+RuOHXJbjAj/F+JF5hkoYAoKGY i9gPJhf/x5NnPifJMMkcFwII =D2Ik -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tuesday, August 08, 2000, 10:53:37 PM, Curtis wrote: We aren't being critical of PMMails method. We are defending TB!'s method. There's a difference there you know. Right. PMMail correct. TB! incorrect. Reasons given months ago. - -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. - ---+- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOZFQR3pf7K2LbpnFEQKOaQCg8G+aiAniN8D2okKzjFaJtvgOiI8AoI2S hns3iCQSyPgHj0HT1xI216uX =a277 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Next/Prev action at end of list
On Wed, 9 Aug 2000 05:35:51 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: SL -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- SL Hash: SHA1 SL Tuesday, August 08, 2000, 10:48:21 PM, Curtis wrote: machine as we speak for cripes sake. I know exactly what you're both referring to. Just what is your problem Steve??!! SL My problem is most people get it wrong. There is no problems with SL the behavior it has. I never said there was a problem with PMMail's way of doing things hence my statement that I'm defending TB! and not criticising PMMail. TB! packs the option of the user to browse more than one folder via a single folder window, something which PMMail does not offer. Because of this, having a folder disappear when I'm finished with a message list is not what I'd want in TB! for the simple reason that I often wish to change to another folder using ShiftCtrlG or Navigation - Go to Folder. OTOH, I'd want PMMail's browse windows to disappear when I'm finished browsing a list because there's nothing else to do with the browse window but close it *anyway* at that point. Can't you see the difference because of TB!'s additional feature? In TB! an assumption would be made when the window is closed automatically while in PMMail, a logical move is carried out automatically for the user. -- -=A.C. Martin=-[TB! v1.46 Beta/3 «» Win2k Pro SP1] PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey "Why do we read left to right yet turn pages right to left? " -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Next/Prev action at end of list
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wednesday, August 09, 2000, 9:52:21 AM, Curtis wrote: to another folder using ShiftCtrlG or Navigation - Go to Folder. OTOH, I'd want PMMail's browse windows to disappear when I'm finished browsing a list because there's nothing else to do with the browse Depends on your point of view, isn't it? I see it as that command is needed because the view folder window doesn't do the sane thing and close itself so you can pick another from the main list. So instead of auto-closing, as it should, it stays there and they needed to add a kludgy function to get around that shortcoming. - -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. - ---+- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOZGTaXpf7K2LbpnFEQI52ACg+GJFigvLb82Nts8CjKSqLCSf4LUAn0Un kg6LCiEsrYr9SomSXxWq7zS2 =y6ZS -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Next/Prev action at end of list
On Wed, 9 Aug 2000 10:22:49 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: to another folder using ShiftCtrlG or Navigation - Go to Folder. OTOH, I'd want PMMail's browse windows to disappear when I'm finished browsing a list because there's nothing else to do with the browse SL Depends on your point of view, isn't it? I see it as that command is SL needed because the view folder window doesn't do the sane thing and SL close itself so you can pick another from the main list. So instead SL of auto-closing, as it should, it stays there and they needed to add SL a kludgy function to get around that shortcoming. But here you are again trying to compare apples and oranges. TB! has yet another aspect to it which makes it very different from PMMail. Unlike PMMail, TB!'s browse folder windows have their own *independent* message lists which the toolbar navigation buttons follow. PMMail's browse folder windows not only do not have their own message lists, but the navigation via the browse window is directly reflected in the main windows message list. As a direct result of these differences, unlike PMMail, one can browse multiple folders with ease without ever having to look at the main TB! window during the process and without ever having to close the view folder window between folders. Being able to change to a different folder using shiftctrlg is a kludgy function? I say no to that. TB! is just different in approach. nudge Get used to it and if you can't then use PMMail which offers your preferred approach. That's why there is choice. /nudge. :-) -- -=A.C. Martin=-[TB! v1.46 Beta/3 «» Win2k Pro SP1] PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey "Four minus two is one and the same. " -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Next/Prev action at end of list
On Wed, 9 Aug 2000 13:01:28 -0500, Curtis wrote: talking to myself C As a direct result of these differences, unlike PMMail, one can browse C multiple folders with ease without ever having to look at the main TB! C window during the process and without ever having to close the view C folder window between folders. Adding to that. If a status bar could be added to the view folder windows indicating the total read and total unread messages in "Unread/Total" format, it would be really nice. When I was recently using the view folder window, I used to use one for TB discussion and another for all other folders. The only reason I'd check the main window at times for would be to see the amount of unread messages left in the folder I was browsing. -- -=A.C. Martin=-[TB! v1.46 Beta/3 «» Win2k Pro SP1] PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey "The buck doesn't even slow down here! " -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Next/Prev action at end of list
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wednesday, August 09, 2000, 11:01:28 AM, Curtis wrote: Being able to change to a different folder using shiftctrlg is a kludgy function? I say no to that. TB! is just different in approach. And a wrong one. As I said months ago, it does something unexpected and illogical and that /bug/ should be fixed. nudge Get used to it and if you can't then use PMMail which offers your preferred approach. That's why there is choice. /nudge. :-) Nah, I prefer to get the client to actually work right. You may feel the need to work around bugs in the software, I do not. - -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. - ---+- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOZGffHpf7K2LbpnFEQL83ACfT/WutEXgDhgFncVH3JJSP+w4gpEAn25x WWvaToceuUkDG4CE7nDwAkCC =o9Ad -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wednesday, August 09, 2000, 11:08:48 AM, Curtis wrote: another for all other folders. The only reason I'd check the main window at times for would be to see the amount of unread messages left in the folder I was browsing. Ungh. If I wanted to read like that I'd switch to Pine or Mutt and be done with it. Total lack of any indication of where new mail is? Nasty, nasty, nasty. - -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. - ---+- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOZGgmHpf7K2LbpnFEQIAdACg3mbP9zOkxZCvhc/pGaRZrQ69e3gAoOkG xfh1prgaCfekTMpiXaE8u1Ur =sn3V -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
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On Wed, 9 Aug 2000 11:19:04 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: another for all other folders. The only reason I'd check the main window at times for would be to see the amount of unread messages left in the folder I was browsing. SL Ungh. If I wanted to read like that I'd switch to Pine or Mutt and be SL done with it. Total lack of any indication of where new mail is? Nasty, SL nasty, nasty. hehe. It does need some sorting out. If the functionality is there, it should be optimised for comfortable use. -- -=A.C. Martin=-[TB! v1.46 Beta/3 «» Win2k Pro SP1] PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey "A procrastinator's work is never done. " . -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
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On Wed, 9 Aug 2000 11:14:20 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: SL And a wrong one. As I said months ago, it does something unexpected SL and illogical and that /bug/ should be fixed. nudge Get used to it and if you can't then use PMMail which offers your preferred approach. That's why there is choice. /nudge. :-) SL Nah, I prefer to get the client to actually work right. You may feel SL the need to work around bugs in the software, I do not. If the software doesn't do things the way you prefer it to, it's buggy on that account? Isn't that stretching what the term 'bug' means? :-) Do you consider suboptimal implementation of a feature to be a bug? -- -=A.C. Martin=-[TB! v1.46 Beta/3 «» Win2k Pro SP1] PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey "God I want patience, and I WANT IT NOW! " -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wednesday, August 09, 2000, 11:32:11 AM, Curtis wrote: If the software doesn't do things the way you prefer it to, it's buggy on that account? Isn't that stretching what the term 'bug' means? :-) Do you consider suboptimal implementation of a feature to be a bug? No, I term something that does something unexpected a bug. "Del and up" deleting the current message and bringing up the message from below is certainly not "Delete and up", now is it? Nor is "Del and down" deleting and showing the message from above. Those are exact opposite of what was requested. Usually when something like that happens, it is called a bug, no? - -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. - ---+- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOZGn2Hpf7K2LbpnFEQLipQCdH2cRWVESSGjNfJSxTUwfvftdZ9QAn0q8 QQSciDRsRAQCbhNiXmBd13yL =MmQt -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Next/Prev action at end of list
Hi Steve, On 09 August 2000 at 11:14:20 GMT -0700 (which was 19:14 where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points on the subject of "Next/Prev action at end of list": Being able to change to a different folder using shiftctrlg is a kludgy function? I say no to that. TB! is just different in approach. SLAnd a wrong one. As I said months ago, it does something SL unexpected and illogical and that /bug/ should be fixed. Definition time: a bug is a _fault_ in the implementation of a piece of software (the coding) which renders it inoperable or breaks design constraints within which the software should be operating. You are describing as a "bug" additional functionality (which both Curtis and I find indispensable). This is functionality which breaks nothing, works exactly as designed, impedes nothing and only adds to the choice a user has. Ermm - no way does that conform to any definition of the word "bug" that I have ever come across. The only way I could stretch to understand what you are saying is if you mean that the design is flawed. Then that's a design flaw, not an implementation fault. It's also just an opinion which I don't share. -- Cheers, .\\arck Marck D. Pearlstone, Consultant Software Engineer Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA www: http://www.silverstones.com PGP key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY *--- | Using The Bat! 1.46 Beta/3 S/N 14F4B4B2 | under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 *--- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Next/Prev action at end of list
Hi Steve, On 09 August 2000 at 11:49:56 GMT -0700 (which was 19:49 where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points on the subject of "Next/Prev action at end of list": If the software doesn't do things the way you prefer it to, it's buggy on that account? Isn't that stretching what the term 'bug' means? :-) Do you consider suboptimal implementation of a feature to be a bug? SL No, I term something that does something unexpected a bug. SL "Del and up" deleting the current message and bringing up the SL message from below is certainly not "Delete and up", now is it? SL Nor is "Del and down" deleting and showing the message from above. SL Those are exact opposite of what was requested. Usually when SL something like that happens, it is called a bug, no? Yes - if it doesn't work as specified and as designed then it is a bug. Unlike the closing of a folder view at the end. That works as specified and designed. Ergo - not a bug. -- Cheers, .\\arck Marck D. Pearlstone, Consultant Software Engineer Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA www: http://www.silverstones.com PGP key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY *--- | Using The Bat! 1.46 Beta/3 S/N 14F4B4B2 | under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 *--- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Next/Prev action at end of list
On Wed, 9 Aug 2000 11:49:56 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: SL No, I term something that does something unexpected a bug. "Del and SL up" deleting the current message and bringing up the message from SL below is certainly not "Delete and up", now is it? Nor is "Del and SL down" deleting and showing the message from above. Those are exact SL opposite of what was requested. Usually when something like that SL happens, it is called a bug, no? Feh! But you're being illusive with me here Steve. :-) Almost playing the weasel with me. g Why deviate the discussion and bring the above bug into the picture. Of course that's a bug! I agree entirely and I have indicated this both on list a lng time ago and also to Ritlabs. This is why I don't use those shortcut keys because each does the opposite of what it is expected to do, considering what the words 'up' and 'down' are supposed to mean. Back to what we were talking about. How is TB!'s not closing the view folder window when you reach the end of the list a bug? Is there inappropriate use of English or symbols to mislead the user (as your above example) occurring in this situation? Is there any unexpected behaviour beyond what is predicted to occur, not from how PMMail does things, but from how TB! is designed to do things? This is how TB! works. I have explained to you why it works the way it does and why it really aught to work this way considering that the view folder window of TB! offers more features and functionality than the view folder window of PMMail, which makes automatic closure of the window inappropriate and presumptuous.. As long as there is something that the user may wish to do with the window after completing the message list then it should be left open. One very reasonable thing the user could wish to do is to change the folder being browsed via Navigation - Go to Folder.. -- -=A.C. Martin=-[TB! v1.46 Beta/3 «» Win2k Pro SP1] PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey "Ignorance is temporary; Stupidity lasts forever! " -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
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On Wed, 9 Aug 2000 12:30:14 -0700, Kenneth Porter wrote: C Because of this, having a folder disappear when I'm finished with a C message list is not what I'd want in TB! for the simple reason that C I often wish to change to another folder using ShiftCtrlG or C Navigation - Go to Folder. KP I don't see the utility. My folders aren't in the order I'd normally KP read them (I have a fairly complex tree), and using Go to Folder KP doesn't seem more convenient than allowing the current window to KP close and opening a new one from the main accounts tree. It doesn't make sense speaking about one method being more or less convenient than another when both methods are available for users to chose from. I prefer using the same window and switching to another folder at times while I prefer opening another separate window at times. I use both methods and prefer it. What next? I prefer something, you prefer something else. Both are supported. -- -=A.C. Martin=-[TB! v1.46 Beta/3 «» Win2k Pro SP1] PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey "I'm not smart enough to lie - Ronald Reagan " -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wednesday, August 09, 2000, 12:03:43 PM, Marck wrote: Definition time: a bug is a _fault_ in the implementation of a piece of software (the coding) which renders it inoperable or breaks design constraints within which the software should be operating. Right. "Delete and move up" brings up the message /below/ the one listed. What part of that doesn't conform to the above definition? None of it. It is a /bug/ even by your very own definition. - -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. - ---+- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOZG953pf7K2LbpnFEQIUJgCgqYeitEAtfjFsHeClCg2guJRy4E8Anihz qhswcnTeKe4Zg8ht4sdZTBRJ =d0cs -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wednesday, August 09, 2000, 12:23:21 PM, Curtis wrote: the weasel with me. g Why deviate the discussion and bring the above bug into the picture. Of course that's a bug! I agree entirely and I have indicated this both on list a lng time ago and also to Ritlabs. Then we're in agreement that the window should be closed since you just stated it was a bug. Thank you for finally coming to reason. Back to what we were talking about. How is TB!'s not closing the view folder window when you reach the end of the list a bug? You just said it was a bug. PMMail, which makes automatic closure of the window inappropriate and presumptuous.. No, leaving it there leads to confusion, is contrary to the expected and requested behavior, and is therefore a BUG. - -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. - ---+- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOZG+uHpf7K2LbpnFEQJS3QCeJtoZugb4OeDa4NUjxOyETK+YttgAoPbz Gxf5i4GNvOqBLNbFg3XC0ZbS =Hyg3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Next/Prev action at end of list
Hi Kenneth, On 09 August 2000 at 12:30:14 GMT -0700 (which was 20:30 where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points on the subject of "Next/Prev action at end of list": C Because of this, having a folder disappear when I'm finished with C a message list is not what I'd want in TB! for the simple reason C that I often wish to change to another folder using C ShiftCtrlG or Navigation - Go to Folder. KP I don't see the utility. My folders aren't in the order I'd KP normally read them (I have a fairly complex tree), and using Go to KP Folder doesn't seem more convenient than allowing the current KP window to close and opening a new one from the main accounts tree. That is only because you happen to have the main Window open. Curtis and I (and others who haven't yet mentioned that they work this way) don't. TB stays in the tool tray most of the time. In general use, I just have a folder browse window open. That's it. Are you suggesting that because *you and Steve* don't use the functionality and have the main folder tree available we have to change the way *we* use TB? Why should we want that to happen? I would also venture to suggest that, with limited screen real estate (which I know Steve doesn't suffer) you, too, would probably find this far more simplistic but amazingly capable front end that I use on my laptop here equally invaluable. -- Cheers, .\\arck Marck D. Pearlstone, Consultant Software Engineer Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA www: http://www.silverstones.com PGP key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY *--- | Using The Bat! 1.46 Beta/3 S/N 14F4B4B2 | under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 *--- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Next/Prev action at end of list
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wednesday, August 09, 2000, 1:23:03 PM, Marck wrote: That is only because you happen to have the main Window open. Curtis and I (and others who haven't yet mentioned that they work this way) don't. TB stays in the tool tray most of the time. Too bad you can't have TB! in the tool tray even when it is open. change the way *we* use TB? Why should we want that to happen? Because it is, uh, ohhh, a BUG? Just because people exploit a bug in a creative way doesn't make it any less a bug. I would also venture to suggest that, with limited screen real estate (which I know Steve doesn't suffer) You'd be surprised as to how I've used TB! and PMMail and in what resolutions. Quite frankly, on small screens, like a laptops, I use Mutt which is a far cry better than the hack in TB!'s view folder window. - -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. - ---+- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOZHDCXpf7K2LbpnFEQLNDwCgkJZU+M0KtHqwoG6jb48mukos0BMAn20H ZCO4N7GMJ7ZRGhHq8sZMnKl6 =b/6m -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Next/Prev action at end of list
On Wed, 9 Aug 2000 16:03:19 -0500, Curtis wrote: KP (I'd also like to see "move to folder and go to next/prev message" KP on the toolbar (a feature I use a lot in PMMail).) The 'go to next/previous message' buttons are already on the toolbar. The Go to Folder button should be added, yes. No, no. I mean "move current message to another folder", then "next/prev message". PMMail has 3 groups of navigation buttons on the reader window: Each group has a next/prev arrow, plus one between the arrows to perform an action without going to the next/prev message. One group (red) deletes the current message, one (yellow) moves the current message to a folder selected by popup dialog, and one (blue) is just the normal next/prev arrows with no other action. This is handy when reading "unusual" mail that has no associated filter. I can click on the yellow arrow that allows me to file the current message under an appropriate folder, and then goes to the next message. (In normal use all my mail is filtered into specific folders, and my Inbox contains only unusual stuff from unexpected sources that needs special handling, so I mainly use this with the Inbox.) Ken mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sewingwitch.com/ken/ http://www.harrybrowne2000.org/ Kill the Carnivore! http://www.lp.org/action/carnivore/ -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
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On Wed, 9 Aug 2000 14:39:40 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: SL Same premise here. Del/up should /NOT/ display the message below it SL and the same for del/down displaying the message above it. Just SL because you have found use for it doesn't make it any less a bug. Let me post it again since you didn't read my response to the above bug. On Wed, 9 Aug 2000 14:23:21 -0500, Curtis wrote: snip C Of course that's a bug! I agree entirely and I have indicated this C both on list a lng time ago and also to Ritlabs. This is why I ^ C don't use those shortcut keys because each does the opposite of what ^ C it is expected to do, considering what the words 'up' and 'down' are C supposed to mean. Urhm, yes. What use exactly have I found for this bug? Stop being dishonest Steve. -- -=A.C. Martin=-[TB! v1.46 Beta/3 «» Win2k Pro SP1] PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey "Depression is merely anger without enthusiasm " -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
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On Wed, 09 Aug 2000 15:00:11 -0700, Kenneth Porter wrote: snip KP This is handy when reading "unusual" mail that has no associated KP filter. I can click on the yellow arrow that allows me to file the KP current message under an appropriate folder, and then goes to the KP next message. CTRLC will copy the message. -- -=A.C. Martin=-[TB! v1.46 Beta/3 «» Win2k Pro SP1] PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey "It is better to wear out than to rust out. " -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Next/Prev action at end of list
Hi Steve, On 09 August 2000 at 14:37:40 GMT -0700 (which was 22:37 where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points on the subject of "Next/Prev action at end of list": SL Uhm, Marck, get off your high dead horse and read the thread SL again. No need. You did not originate this thread nor was any of it in response to your initial attempt to divert it. SL I quoted exactly what you said and applied it to the context of SL the thread. Sorry Steve, but you did not. It is you that has misunderstood the context of the thread. You are the only one banging on about something that was agreed on months ago as a bug. We are all (except you) talking about something else. If you're having a different conversation than the rest of us in this thread be kind enough not to be as rude as you have been in this posting, understand that you are mistaken and back out gracefully (yeah, I know ... pigs might fly). Subject: Re: Next/Prev action at end of list *not* Subject: Old Del up/down bug revisited. I have been clear at every juncture. You have only diverted and obfuscated. Let's just leave it. We can't even agree to disagree because we aren't even talking about the same thing. You will not goad me to say any more on this. Subject closed. -- Cheers, .\\arck Marck D. Pearlstone, Consultant Software Engineer Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA www: http://www.silverstones.com PGP key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY *--- | Using The Bat! 1.46 Beta/3 S/N 14F4B4B2 | under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 *--- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Next/Prev action at end of list
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wednesday, August 09, 2000, 3:45:22 PM, Curtis wrote: Urhm, yes. What use exactly have I found for this bug? Stop being dishonest Steve. The bug, Allie, is not closing upon hitting the end of a list. You know that as well as I do. Stop lying yourself. - -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. - ---+- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOZHzi3pf7K2LbpnFEQIz8wCgpN4dHSzeFDYyY6gTyyRG6yOnOusAoNvU QJcFHSZxmZegBT5JhRz/pYqz =zbuW -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Next/Prev action at end of list
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wednesday, August 09, 2000, 3:59:19 PM, Marck wrote: No need. You did not originate this thread nor was any of it in response to your initial attempt to divert it. Please, do I have to send you a screen shot of the threaded view in my trash? Your reply was in a line that had me in it 5 times over. talking about something else. If you're having a different conversation than the rest of us in this thread be kind enough not to be as rude as you have been in this posting, understand that you are mistaken and back out gracefully (yeah, I know ... pigs might fly). Yeah, pigs will fly before you, as moderator of the list, would ever admit to any wrong doing, huh? Like posting to a DEAD HORSE thread that /YOU/ declared three times in a manner other than to reiterate its status? No, you'd /NEVER/ do that, would you? Subject: Re: Next/Prev action at end of list *not* Subject: Old Del up/down bug revisited. Right. What did it start off with? With the observation from a PMMail user that TB! does not close the window when it gets to the end of the message list. What /does/ do instead, Marck, HM? Do I have to fscking spell it out for you? IT OPENS UP ANOTHER MESSAGE, MOST NOTABLE THE ONE BELOW OR ABOVE THE CURRENT /OPPOSITE/ DIRECTION SELECTED! YES, MARCK, GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR BUNS BECAUSE THIS MEANS THE TWO ARE ONE AND THE SAME! YOU'RE ONLY TOO PIG-HEADED TO REALIZE IT!! THE BEHAVIOR OF ONE CAUSES THE OTHER!! THEY ARE THE SAME!!! I have been clear at every juncture. You have only diverted and obfuscated. Let's just leave it. We can't even agree to disagree because we aren't even talking about the same thing. We are talking about the same thing, you're just being intentionally ignorant on the matter. Hopefully the above cleared it up for you or do I have to draw diagrams use smaller words for you? You will not goad me to say any more on this. Wanna bet? - -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. - ---+- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOZH1sXpf7K2LbpnFEQKkkgCgzfCPIYWVctlEK88J/iQSO50M5XsAoLwu R5JHg6VMoGXly4TI5X1WculO =tHdG -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
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Hi Steve, On Wed, 9 Aug 2000 13:27:36 -0700GMT (10/08/2000, 04:27 +0800GMT), Steve Lamb wrote: the weasel with me. g Why deviate the discussion and bring the above bug into the picture. Of course that's a bug! I agree entirely and I have indicated this both on list a lng time ago and also to Ritlabs. SL Then we're in agreement that the window should be closed since you just SL stated it was a bug. Thank you for finally coming to reason. Steve, he is talking about the del-up function. That's a bug. Not the closing vs non-closing issue. Back to what we were talking about. How is TB!'s not closing the view folder window when you reach the end of the list a bug? SL You just said it was a bug. No he didn't. PMMail, which makes automatic closure of the window inappropriate and presumptuous.. SL No, leaving it there leads to confusion, is contrary to the expected and SL requested behavior, and is therefore a BUG. It works as expected and is therefore not a bug. Marck has already given you the definition of a bug. You would like a feature that closes the window, others (like me) don't. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.45 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Next/Prev action at end of list
Hi Steve, On Wed, 9 Aug 2000 13:24:01 -0700GMT (10/08/2000, 04:24 +0800GMT), Steve Lamb wrote: Definition time: a bug is a _fault_ in the implementation of a piece of software (the coding) which renders it inoperable or breaks design constraints within which the software should be operating. SL Right. "Delete and move up" brings up the message /below/ the one listed. SL What part of that doesn't conform to the above definition? None of it. It is SL a /bug/ even by your very own definition. What is wrong with you today Steve? Marck is referring to the closing feature that you would like, not about the del-up bug. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.45 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Next/Prev action at end of list
On Thu, Aug 10, 2000 at 11:56:47AM +0800, Thomas Fernandez wrote: What is wrong with you today Steve? Marck is referring to the closing feature that you would like, not about the del-up bug. I'm just wondering why everyone things they are different when they are one and the same. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Next/Prev action at end of list
Hi Steve, On Wed, 9 Aug 2000 21:37:46 -0700GMT (10/08/2000, 12:37 +0800GMT), Steve Lamb wrote: SL I'm just wondering why everyone things they are different when they are SL one and the same. So, now you got it (unless you are still wondering g). You were been talking about something else than the rest. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.45 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Next/Prev action at end of list
On Tue, 8 Aug 2000 14:55:39 -0700, Kenneth Porter wrote: KP I'm just starting to play with TB after coming from PMMail, and one KP thing that's hard to get used to is the action of the Next/Prev KP buttons when at the end of a folder. With PMMail, the reading window KP closes when moving off either end of the list. With TB, one has to KP explicitly close the window. Is there a way to change this to KP automatically close the window when the end of the list is reached? Nope. This is just a difference in behaviour. Different clients. KP Also, how do I keep the cursor from floating in space beyond the end KP of an editor line? How can I restrict it to the real end of the KP line? (This option is available, for example, in Borland's Builder KP IDE.) This is because TB! has a free caret interface which is on all the time. Most specialist editors give the user a choice between a free caret and the standard caret interfaces. TB! has chosen one. I prefer the free caret interface personally. Version 2 of TB! will very likely support the use of an external editor so your anguish may soon be over. Not that I know when to expect a version 2. -- -=A.C. Martin=-[TB! v1.46 Beta/3 «» Win2k Pro SP1] "Ignorance can be cured. Stupid is forever. " -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Next/Prev action at end of list
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tuesday, August 08, 2000, 3:19:32 PM, Curtis wrote: KP automatically close the window when the end of the list is reached? Nope. This is just a difference in behaviour. Different clients. For which TB! is wrong for the reasons outlined before. - -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. - ---+- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOZCKB3pf7K2LbpnFEQK3hQCeMU4bApwqZt6MLPMNrndIUvijhMMAnj43 mebBGLeXbzRmBgEkfIdBDE+R =RFdc -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Next/Prev action at end of list
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tuesday, August 08, 2000, 2:55:39 PM, Kenneth wrote: I'm just starting to play with TB after coming from PMMail, and one thing that's hard to get used to is the action of the Next/Prev buttons when at the end of a folder. You and me both. I've been using it for a year and have written volumes on this very topic. With PMMail, the reading window closes when moving off either end of the list. With TB, one has to explicitly close the window. Is there a way to change this to automatically close the window when the end of the list is reached? No. Also, how do I keep the cursor from floating in space beyond the end of an editor line? No, they'll tell you it is a "feature". I personally dislike it. - -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. - ---+- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOZCG/3pf7K2LbpnFEQLjrwCgxW1I7Deb31uwRl3lLeWJcN1a7XMAoIrm 35mbPJhHY70OkxpN5fL9yvZr =gUGT -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Next/Prev action at end of list
On Tue, 8 Aug 2000 15:30:31 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: KP automatically close the window when the end of the list is KP reached? Nope. This is just a difference in behaviour. Different clients. SL For which TB! is wrong for the reasons outlined before. Are you familiar with the SHIFTCTRLG shortcut? This allows you to browse different folders from the same window. When I'm finished looking through messages, I may wish to select a new folder to browse. If the window disappears when I'm finished with a list this would pose a problem if I wish to browse multiple folders via the same window. -- -=A.C. Martin=-[TB! v1.46 Beta/3 «» Win2k Pro SP1] "OS/2 is the operating system of the '90s - Bill Gates " -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Next/Prev action at end of list
Hi Curtis, On 09 August 2000 at 18:07:47 GMT -0500 (which was 00:07 where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points on the subject of "Next/Prev action at end of list": KP automatically close the window when the end of the list is KP reached? Nope. This is just a difference in behaviour. Different clients. SL For which TB! is wrong for the reasons outlined before. C Are you familiar with the SHIFTCTRLG shortcut? This allows C you to browse different folders from the same window. When I'm C finished looking through messages, I may wish to select a new C folder to browse. If the window disappears when I'm finished with a C list this would pose a problem if I wish to browse multiple folders C via the same window. That's one good point. Here (IMHO) is another. Scenario: You're reading a thread and have something to say. The last new message in the thread is the last in the window. You want to reply directly into the thread but aren't sure to whom you want to reply. You want to read what everyone has already said before you jump in. You read the last message and *poof* the window closes. Snarling you open the main desktop and search for that darned thread and eventually get back to where you were and maybe remember exactly what you were going to say and to whom you wanted to say it ... No, I'm glad TB does it the way it does it. Sure it's different. Vive la difference IMHO ;-). -- Cheers, .\\arck Marck D. Pearlstone, Consultant Software Engineer Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA www: http://www.silverstones.com PGP key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY *--- | Using The Bat! 1.46 Beta/3 S/N 14F4B4B2 | under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 *--- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Next/Prev action at end of list
On Tue, Aug 08, 2000 at 06:07:47PM -0500, Curtis wrote: browse different folders from the same window. When I'm finished looking through messages, I may wish to select a new folder to browse. If the window disappears when I'm finished with a list this would pose a problem if I wish to browse multiple folders via the same window. Non-issue. Please don't make me explain why because it is obvious. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Next/Prev action at end of list
On Wed, Aug 09, 2000 at 12:38:52AM +0100, Marck D. Pearlstone wrote: get back to where you were and maybe remember exactly what you were going to say and to whom you wanted to say it ... No, I'm glad TB does it the way it does it. Sure it's different. Vive la difference IMHO ;-). Again, non-issue. Neither of you are familiar with PMMail so I fail to see why you're being critical of behavior you have no clue of. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Next/Prev action at end of list
Hi Steve, On 09 August 2000 at 16:54:14 GMT -0700 (which was 00:54 where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points on the subject of "Next/Prev action at end of list": No, I'm glad TB does it the way it does it. Sure it's different. Vive la difference IMHO ;-). SL Again, non-issue. Neither of you are familiar with PMMail SL so I fail to see why you're being critical of behavior you have no SL clue of. A fair comment (about familiarity). However, regarding the issue, I have used e-mail clients that closed windows before I was quite done with them and remember the (albeit mild) frustration that caused at the time. Perhaps I have misunderstood the description of the lamented feature. If so, apologies for the confusion caused. -- Cheers, .\\arck Marck D. Pearlstone, Consultant Software Engineer Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA www: http://www.silverstones.com PGP key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=GET%20MARCKKEY *--- | Using The Bat! 1.46 Beta/3 S/N 14F4B4B2 | under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 *--- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Next/Prev action at end of list
On Tue, 8 Aug 2000 16:54:14 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: No, I'm glad TB does it the way it does it. Sure it's different. Vive la difference IMHO ;-). SL Again, non-issue. Neither of you are familiar with PMMail so I fail SL to see why you're being critical of behavior you have no clue of. What a crass and presumptuous remark!! I used PMMail mainly, during most of my OS/2 days and it was the e-mail client I used for a long time after migrating from OS/2 to NT. I have PMMail2000 STD installed on this machine as we speak for cripes sake. I know exactly what you're both referring to. Just what is your problem Steve??!! -- -=A.C. Martin=-[TB! v1.46 Beta/3 «» Win2k Pro SP1] PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey "If marriage is outlawed, only outlaws will have inlaws. " -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Next/Prev action at end of list
On Wed, 9 Aug 2000 01:40:26 +0100, Marck D. Pearlstone wrote: MDP A fair comment (about familiarity). However, regarding the issue, I MDP have used e-mail clients that closed windows before I was quite MDP done with them and remember the (albeit mild) frustration that MDP caused at the time. Perhaps I have misunderstood the description of MDP the lamented feature. If so, apologies for the confusion caused. We aren't being critical of PMMails method. We are defending TB!'s method. There's a difference there you know. -- -=A.C. Martin=-[TB! v1.46 Beta/3 «» Win2k Pro SP1] PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey "H lp! S m b dy st l ll th v w ls fr m my k yb rd! " -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
