Re: OT: Sharing after marriage

2002-07-17 Thread Thomas F

Hello Michael,

On Wed, 17 Jul 2002 04:24:44 +0100 GMT (17/07/02, 10:24 +0700 GMT),
Michael Thompson wrote:

TF How do you password-protect files? I managed to password-protect a
TF directory once, but cannot remember how I did that.

MT I think this program you refer to is Magic Folders available from
MT http://pc-magic.com .

Yes! (Oh, my memory)

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Re: OT: Sharing after marriage

2002-07-17 Thread Thomas F

Hello Dwight,

On Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:25:44 -0500 GMT (17/07/02, 03:25 +0700 GMT),
Dwight A Corrin wrote:

DAC I think always. The games were more primitive of course back in days
DAC when computers required their own huge air conditioned rooms and
DAC ground to a halt on days when there were brown outs, and backups were
DAC reel to reel, etc, and you wrote your programs on a keypunch machine.

That's how I started. Actually we didn't have brown outs or other such
problems, because that was a prestigious (for the government) research
facility, but that didn't make the computers less vulnerable.

DAC But there were games.

But the computers were not *designed* to entertain. Programmers never
grow up - so we built some games. It was a don't let the boss see it
kind of thing.

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Re: OT: Sharing after marriage

2002-07-17 Thread Roelof Otten

Hallo Sudip,

On Wed, 17 Jul 2002 09:56:54 +0545GMT (17-7-02, 6:11 +0200GMT, where I
live), you wrote:

MT Partition Magic will quite happily convert NTFS to FAT / FAT32 and
MT Vice versa.

SP Will it convert NTFS to FAT32 without losing data? I think  XP

No, but that's because NTFS stores things like ownership of
directories and files and those are not implemented in FAT32, for the
rest the answer is  Yes.


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Re[2]: OT: Sharing after marriage

2002-07-17 Thread Michael Thompson

Hello Sudip,

Wednesday, July 17, 2002, 5:11:54 AM, you wrote :


SP Will it convert NTFS to FAT32 without losing data? I think  XP
SP converts FAT32 to NTFS without having to format the drive , thereby
SP maintaining data integrity.


Yes, it is completly safe, (Version 5) And will not lose any data at
all.

You are correct that WinXP does not lose data, it does this by
modifing the first section of the drive only, and files are not converted
until use, though thry appear to have been converted, this saves on
time. (Like a quick format when installing)

So basicly it does on the fly conversion sector by sector until the
drive is converted completly. Where as utils like Partition Magic do
the entire drive at once.

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Re[2]: OT: Sharing after marriage

2002-07-17 Thread Michael Thompson

Hello Roelof,

Wednesday, July 17, 2002, 8:36:21 AM, you wrote :


RO No, but that's because NTFS stores things like ownership of
RO directories and files and those are not implemented in FAT32, for the
RO rest the answer is  Yes.

Yes, but if you dont considure this to be data then it aint important.
and if you are converting to FAT32 then you should expect to lose
this. as FAT32 is not a secure filesystem (Neither is NTFS come to
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Re[4]: OT: Sharing after marriage (PGP Issues)

2002-07-17 Thread Michael Thompson

Hello Jonathan,

Wednesday, July 17, 2002, 4:40:39 AM, you wrote :

JA In what way?  I uninstalled, and reinstalled two times versions (one was a
JA different version, the other was because I missed a package) on WinXP only 3
JA weeks ago... not had any issues.


PGP 7.5 was to add Windows XP support, but due to the reorganization of NAI,
it looks like PGP 7.5 will never make it out of production.  I'm told that 
the basic functions of PGP 6.5.x and 7.x versions appear to work properly in 
WinXP, if the PGPnet and PGPvpn components (PGPfire may also be a problem) 
are not installed - DO NOT install the PGPnet and/or PGPvpn component on 
Windows XP.  A couple PGP 7.0.3 users report having an 'IP Stack Disabled' 
problem when having installed the PGPnet component, but being able to 
resolve it by running the command sc config ipsec start= system at the 
command prompt (without the quotation marks) - there is report that this 
will then even let you use the PGP Personal Firewall.  If you made the 
mistake of installing PGPnet, PGPvpn, and/or PGPfire, and need to remove it, 
Microsoft advises the use of System Restore - they warn against attempting 
to resolve this by uninstalling PGP, because doing so “uninstalls the TCP/IP 
stack, and the TCP/IP stack does not support manual reinstallation.”  
However, there is also report that the above command will resolve this 
resulting uninstall problem.  There are problems with the PGPdisk drive not 
appearing in Windows Explorer (this is fixed in PGP 7.1.1), and there are 
problems with the Outlook and Outlook Express plug-ins and their expected 
PGP buttons (icons) on the tool bars (I'm not aware of a fix for these 
plug-in problems, but the PGP Current Window option should work).  At least 
one person reports not being able to install PGP 7.0.x to an NTFS partition. 
  PGP 7.1.x is reported to have preliminary work for support of Outlook XP, 
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Re: OT: Sharing after marriage

2002-07-17 Thread Christopher Taylor-Davies

On Wednesday, July 17, 2002, 5:11:54 AM, Sudip wrote:

 Will it convert NTFS to FAT32 without losing data? I think  XP
 converts FAT32 to NTFS without having to format the drive , thereby
 maintaining data integrity.

It will convert FAT32 to NTFS safely. However, you don't get the best
results by doing so, as you usually end up with 512 byte clusters,
which tends to make it very slow. You are better off (if you can)
copying your data somewhere else and creating and formatting the
NTFS partition from scratch, then re-instating your data.




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Re[2]: OT: Sharing after marriage

2002-07-17 Thread Lynn Turriff



Tuesday, July 16, 2002, 10:56:35 AM, you wrote:
[snip]

TF I believe for dual boot you need seperate partitions anyway.
TF (Partition Magic comes to mind.) If you have programs or data on the
TF NTFS partition (and you will have), I have no idea whether it is
TF possible to recover these when you go back to FAT32.

I haven't dual booted for some time, but I do use
Partition Magic fairly regularly. It will convert some
file systems back and forth safely - as I rarely do that,
unless someone has carelessly formatted a 20G partition to
FAT and it needs to go to NTFS, I don't remember the lurid
details, but it will do some for sure.

No doubt the latest version will do more than the one I am
using, too. A very reliable utility, in my experience.

Lynn


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Re: OT: Sharing after marriage

2002-07-17 Thread Dwight A Corrin

On Wednesday, July 17, 2002, 1:39:20 AM, Thomas F wrote:

 Actually we didn't have brown outs or other such problems, because
 that was a prestigious (for the government) research facility

I was computing in New York, and on hot summer days the brown outs
were for the whole metro area. By noon you were lucky of you could
even read a stack of cards

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Re[2]: OT: Sharing after marriage

2002-07-17 Thread Lynn Turriff



Tuesday, July 16, 2002, 8:47:11 AM, you wrote:

[snip]

JA Although they found the plain text switch... try looking at the
JA headers.  If I remember correctly, (at least the version I saw
JA anyway), put in a whole load of X- headers for other incredimail
JA users, which can create a substantial over head... especially as one
JA plain text mail that was sent to a list had nearly 22 X-* headers for
JA just a plain text message.

JA - --
JA Jonathan Angliss

[snip]

No doubt .. but even that is better than some of the
formatting that comes from these things.

I don't really care what they use, but I always appreciate
it if they'll turn it all off and just send text when
sending to me :-)

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Re: OT: Sharing after marriage

2002-07-17 Thread Jonathan Angliss

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On Wednesday, July 17, 2002, Lynn Turriff wrote...

 No doubt .. but even that is better than some of the
 formatting that comes from these things.

 I don't really care what they use, but I always appreciate
 it if they'll turn it all off and just send text when
 sending to me :-)

I agree totally... but that is my opinion.  I personally cannot stand
emails flying into my inbox with size 50 purple font, on yellow
backgrounds  (which is always the case from a friend).  That is
something I like about TB!, the ability to turn off the HTML when it
comes in.  I unfortunately couldn't work out how to do that in OE/OL.

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Re[2]: OT: Sharing after marriage

2002-07-17 Thread Lynn Turriff



Wednesday, July 17, 2002, 8:32:20 AM, you wrote:
[snip]

JA I personally cannot stand emails flying into my inbox
JA with size 50 purple font, on yellow backgrounds (which
JA is always the case from a friend). That is something I
JA like about TB!, the ability to turn off the HTML when
JA it comes in. I unfortunately couldn't work out how to
JA do that in OE/OL.

JA - --
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That's no joy, but it's the 5pt fonts in pale green on
pale blue that make me froth at the mouth .. if you don't
want it read, why send it? lol!

Websites, too, come to think of it ..

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Re: OT: Sharing after marriage

2002-07-17 Thread Thomas F

Hello Dwight,

On Wed, 17 Jul 2002 10:23:14 -0500 GMT (17/07/02, 22:23 +0700 GMT),
Dwight A Corrin wrote:

DAC I was computing in New York, and on hot summer days the brown outs
DAC were for the whole metro area. By noon you were lucky of you could
DAC even read a stack of cards

Well, over in Hamburg, the computer read the cards - I never really
figured out all those rectangular holes, and the computer was faster
anyway. ;-)

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OT: Sharing after marriage

2002-07-16 Thread Sudip Pokhrel

Hi Batpeople,

   How do you, married folks, manage to share the same computer with
   your wife err.. spouse to be gender sensitive, specially if she/he
   is of IncrediMail genus, without loosing your cool ?? !!

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Re: OT: Sharing after marriage

2002-07-16 Thread Dave Conroy

Hi Sudip,

Tuesday, July 16, 2002, 8:06:15 AM, you wrote:

I use WorkGroupMail mail server, so she can access her mail using
Eudora and I get mine with TB! Works well, flexible, easy to set up
and is inexpensive.
 
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Re: OT: Sharing after marriage

2002-07-16 Thread cedric

16/07/2002, 9:06:15, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

How do you, married folks, manage to share the same computer with
your wife err.. spouse to be gender sensitive, specially if she/he
is of IncrediMail genus, without loosing your cool ?? !!

I've tried this. No way. Get a second computer.

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Re: OT: Sharing after marriage

2002-07-16 Thread Marcus Ohlstrm


On Tuesday, July 16, 2002, 09:06, Sudip Pokhrel wrote:

How do you, married folks, manage to share the same computer with
your wife err.. spouse to be gender sensitive, specially if she/he
is of IncrediMail genus, without loosing your cool ?? !!

WinXP's handling of simultaneously logged in users (like in the unix
world) sounds like a solution. I haven't used XP enough to tell how
well this works, but in theory it sounds great.

And yes, I know W2K and other windows versions could manage more than
one account, but when different users can't be logged in at the same
time this isn't of much help in a home situation (IMHO, of course)

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Re[2]: OT: Sharing after marriage

2002-07-16 Thread Bernd Gauweiler

c I've tried this. No way. Get a second computer.

I agree. Share everything but the computer.
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Re: OT: Sharing after marriage

2002-07-16 Thread Joseph N.

   On Tuesday, July 16, 2002, Sudip Pokhrel wrote in
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SPHow do you, married folks, manage to share the same computer with
SPyour wife err.. spouse to be gender sensitive, specially if she/he
SPis of IncrediMail genus, without loosing your cool ?? !!


Sudip,

1. Button down for worst case possibilities with well-configured
firewall and AV systems;

2. Establish certain rules about downloading from non-commercial sites
and not using file-sharing programs;

3. Use the least dangerous programs that still have flashy features.
In my case, I installed Beonex Communicator Suite, which not only
works fast and well as a browser, but has decent controls over mail,
including an html setting that works like TB!

4. Password protect files that are critical, like Quicken, calendars,
TB!, etc.

5. Clean out your temp file often, reboot often, and save for another
computer.

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Re[2]: OT: Sharing after marriage

2002-07-16 Thread Rick Reumann



On Tuesday, July 16, 2002, 3:29:05 AM, Dave wrote:

DC I use WorkGroupMail mail server, so she can access her mail using
DC Eudora and I get mine with TB! Works well, flexible, easy to set up
DC and is inexpensive.

I just set up an admin account with the Bat and then as an admin
assigned an account to me and an account to my wife. Works well,
except of course I could always log in as admin and check her mail
if I wanted.


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Re: OT: Sharing after marriage

2002-07-16 Thread Lynn Turriff



Tuesday, July 16, 2002, 12:06:15 AM, you wrote:

SP Hi Batpeople,

SPHow do you, married folks, manage to share the same computer with
SPyour wife err.. spouse to be gender sensitive, specially if she/he
SPis of IncrediMail genus, without loosing your cool ?? !!


I was going to say, as several others have, that it's time
for the second computer, but they beat me to it. And I
assume if it was a really viable option, you'd have done
it.

I'm not sure though why you can't just run separate mail
clients - I know several people who do, and I've done it
myself. Two of you can't use the same machine
simultaneously, so I'm not clear on the problem. Unless
it's the *mail account* you have to share?

Uh oh ... Any way you can get a  separate mail box? Not
sure where you're located, but North American ISP's will
often supply an additional mailbox (account) for a smallish
fee. They don't always make this clear up front, so might
be worth asking them. My account has 5, which covers the
household nicely. So even if we had to share a machine,
we could use separate clients.

All my mob are Bat-using geeks, though :-)

Lynn


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Re: OT: Sharing after marriage

2002-07-16 Thread Jonathan Angliss

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On Tuesday, July 16, 2002, Lynn Turriff wrote...

 I was going to say, as several others have, that it's time for the
 second computer, but they beat me to it. And I assume if it was a
 really viable option, you'd have done it.

Would say the same. But I use a completely different operating system
as well. I get bored of using Windows all day, so a nice change to
have my brain flexed when I get home ;)

 Uh oh ... Any way you can get a separate mail box? Not sure where
 you're located, but North American ISP's will often supply an
 additional mailbox (account) for a smallish fee. They don't always
 make this clear up front, so might be worth asking them. My account
 has 5, which covers the household nicely. So even if we had to share
 a machine, we could use separate clients.

Most ISPs actually offer multiple accounts, just neglect to tell you,
and if they don't offer them for free, they normally charge (as you
said) a small fee. My old ISP in the UK allowed me to setup up to 5
mail boxes, each mail box could have up to 3 aliases assigned to it.
There are other ISPs in the UK that don't provide a specific address,
but give you a subdomain (virtual anyway) so you can setup whatever
you want.  You can then use nice filters to process them into a
variety of boxes.

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Re: OT: Sharing after marriage

2002-07-16 Thread Sudip Pokhrel

Hi Lynn,

On Tue, 16 Jul 2002 07:33:45 -0700 GMT (Jul 16, 20:18 my local time),
you [LT] wrote:

LT I was going to say, as several others have, that it's time
LT for the second computer, but they beat me to it.

Yes I think its time as well. The problem is not about who uses the
computer, I get more usage and that's mutually agreed. The problem is
about how we use the computer. While I'm using it, she wants me to
leave Incredimail (which I hate from the bottom of my toes) minimized.
Everytime she gets mail (which is one every minute!!), her animated
cute doggy notifier pops up and announces new mail with most
irritating of barks ! If she'd only agree to learn TB! sigh.. This
is just one example, other vandalism in her part includes setting up
700KB BMP image as a desktop wallpaper, windows themes that'll give
you migraine, inadvertently shuffling directories around so my visual
basic projects go berserk searching for the linked databases and
files, etc, etc

I would say this calls for a new computer, wouldn't you?

LT And I assume if it was a really viable option, you'd have done it.

Except for /mucho dinero/ all other options are viable ! When I was
still a bachelor, no wonder all my married friends were broke :(

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Re[3]: OT: Sharing after marriage

2002-07-16 Thread Joseph N.

   On Tuesday, July 16, 2002, Rick Reumann wrote in
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RR I just set up an admin account with the Bat and then as an admin
RR assigned an account to me and an account to my wife. Works well,
RR except of course I could always log in as admin and check her mail
RR if I wanted.

Rick,

That is a good way to do it, and it allows you to control which
options users can change. However, if you and your wife also password
protect your accounts, then they will be more private (other than the
nonencrypted message base) and each account won't appear when the
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Re[2]: OT: Sharing after marriage

2002-07-16 Thread Lynn Turriff



Tuesday, July 16, 2002, 8:16:26 AM, you wrote:

SP Everytime she gets mail (which is one every minute!!), her
SP animated
SP cute doggy notifier pops up and announces new mail with most
SP irritating of barks ! If she'd only agree to learn TB! sigh..

Would make me crazy .. I support a friend who has all
these toys, and it makes me *nuts* trying to do anything
on her system .. .. but she always says .. 'oh, go ahead
and close all that stuff', so it's just a matter of 10
minutes of shutting stuff down. I've given up trying to
reform her, but I don't have to live with it :-)

SP This
SP is just one example, other vandalism in her part includes
SP setting up
SP 700KB BMP image as a desktop wallpaper, windows themes that'll
SP give
SP you migraine, inadvertently shuffling directories around so my
SP visual
SP basic projects go berserk searching for the linked databases and
SP files, etc, etc

I can never figure out how people who compute this way can
find anything .. but then, they are the ones always losing
stuff, aren't they? lol! It does sound like a quick trip
to the rubber room ..

SP I would say this calls for a new computer, wouldn't you?

Immediately, if not sooner ...

LT And I assume if it was a really viable option, you'd
LT have done it.

SP Except for /mucho dinero/ all other options are viable
SP ! When I was still a bachelor, no wonder all my
SP married friends were broke :(

Yeah .. but it does seem like something to put high on the
priority list. You have my total sympathy. As I said in a
previous mail, my lot are either geeks or don't dare
change anything on my system; but in any case our system
is .. well, mature, I guess you'd call it, so only my
brother is a nomad, and he's setting his system up now so
will soon be able to commit whatever vandalism he likes
without criticism. He's a good sharer, though. Still, if
he starts sending out IncrediMail, we'll choke him! lol!

Actually, one of the people I correspond with recently
upgraded to IncrediMail, but when I complained, she
managed to find the 'plain text' switch immediately. If
only I could get the M$ users trained ...

Good luck with it!

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Re: OT: Sharing after marriage

2002-07-16 Thread Jonathan Angliss

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 Actually, one of the people I correspond with recently
 upgraded to IncrediMail, but when I complained, she
 managed to find the 'plain text' switch immediately. If
 only I could get the M$ users trained ...

Although they found the plain text switch... try looking at the
headers.  If I remember correctly, (at least the version I saw
anyway), put in a whole load of X- headers for other incredimail
users, which can create a substantial over head... especially as one
plain text mail that was sent to a list had nearly 22 X-* headers for
just a plain text message.

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Re: OT: Sharing after marriage

2002-07-16 Thread Sudip Pokhrel

Hi Lynn,

On Tue, 16 Jul 2002 08:44:45 -0700 GMT (Jul 16, 21:29 my local time),
you [LT] wrote:

LT upgraded to IncrediMail

Paradox of the century !

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Re[3]: OT: Sharing after marriage

2002-07-16 Thread John Blue

oh boo hoo.  Was finding the 'plain text' switch immediately fast
enough for you?

Computers are designed to entertain and I say if people *want* to send
e-mail as html by god let 'em.

Strength is diversity not in training conformity.

LT Actually, one of the people I correspond with recently
LT upgraded to IncrediMail, but when I complained, she
LT managed to find the 'plain text' switch immediately. If
LT only I could get the M$ users trained ...

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Re: OT: Sharing after marriage

2002-07-16 Thread Paul Cartwright


On Tuesday, July 16, 2002, 11:16 AM, you wrote:

LT I was going to say, as several others have, that it's time
LT for the second computer, but they beat me to it.

SP Yes I think its time as well. The problem is not about who uses the
SP computer, I get more usage and that's mutually agreed. The problem is
SP about how we use the computer. While I'm using it, she wants me to
SP leave Incredimail (which I hate from the bottom of my toes) minimized.
SP Everytime she gets mail (which is one every minute!!), her animated

I use XP, and me and my SPOUSE have separate logins, so I DONT MESS
with her setup, windows, or email program ( Outlook).

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Re: OT: Sharing after marriage

2002-07-16 Thread John Blue

SPHow do you, married folks, manage to share the same computer with
SPyour wife err.. spouse to be gender sensitive, specially if she/he
SPis of IncrediMail genus, without loosing your cool ?? !!

gee wiz people .. the response's to this thread make me laugh!

All you have to do is enable profiles on your 98 machine.  Better yet
get Windows 2000.

My wife is a seamstress and when she logs into our 2k box she has all
her sewing programs.

When I log in .. I have all my admin and game programs.  Buy another
computer if you *really* want to.  All that will solve is allow use at
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Re: OT: Sharing after marriage

2002-07-16 Thread Sudip Pokhrel

Hi Paul,

On Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:05:46 -0400 GMT (Jul 16, 21:50 my local time),
you [PC] wrote:

PC I use XP, and me and my SPOUSE have separate logins, so I DONT MESS
PC with her setup, windows, or email program ( Outlook).

Yes, I'm thinking about XP. But, can't take chances with some of the
hardware that XP might not support. So:

1. Can I safely install XP alongside Win98 and use dual boot?

2. Do I need separate partition (NTFS) if I go with dual OS? I'd like
   to keep FAT32 incase I decide to discard XP later.

3. In this dual OS environment, can XP be safely uninstalled, without
   disturbing original Win98 setup?

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Re: OT: Sharing after marriage

2002-07-16 Thread Paul Cartwright


On Tuesday, July 16, 2002, 12:16 PM, you wrote:

SP Hi Paul,

SP On Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:05:46 -0400 GMT (Jul 16, 21:50 my local time),
SP you [PC] wrote:

PC I use XP, and me and my SPOUSE have separate logins, so I DONT MESS
PC with her setup, windows, or email program ( Outlook).

SP Yes, I'm thinking about XP. But, can't take chances with some of the
SP hardware that XP might not support. So:

SP 1. Can I safely install XP alongside Win98 and use dual boot?

dunno, I didn't try that, but I think so. I had it dual boot with
win2K on another machine.

SP 2. Do I need separate partition (NTFS) if I go with dual OS? I'd like
SPto keep FAT32 incase I decide to discard XP later.
you REALLY know how to hurt a guy don't you!! My current situation is
rebuilding a CRASHED winXP setup, had to reload the OS because I
couldn't boot to C:\ because it was NTFS!!! I believe you can keep
FAT32 ( or fat16)


SP 3. In this dual OS environment, can XP be safely uninstalled, without
SPdisturbing original Win98 setup?

I wouldn't know, never tried to uninstall it. why bother, just leave
it in, ignore the bootup option and default to the other OS. Better
safe than ...


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Re[4]: OT: Sharing after marriage

2002-07-16 Thread Lynn Turriff



Tuesday, July 16, 2002, 9:02:35 AM, you wrote:

JB Computers are designed to entertain and I say if people *want* to send
JB e-mail as html by god let 'em.

So far, so good, but a lot of the html mail I get is
nearly unreadable ... if they'd compose for readability
instead of animated gifs and gadgetry, and choose colour
schemes/backgrounds that didn't obscure the message, it
wouldn't be so objectionable, even not considering the
space/bandwidth issues .. I'm not even going to bring up
type size ...

JB Strength is diversity not in training conformity.

It certainly is .. but users of M$ software who have never
looked at anything else, much less the settings for the
software they are using are hardly 'diversified' ... too many
people have been *seriously* trained never to change
anything on the computers they are using.

This is due in large part to vendor support whose first
reaction to some problem is to a) find out what
'non-standard' (read 'non-M$') software is on the machine,
and b) strip it off. Oddly, no one seems to notice that
that generally doesn't fix the problem, but it does make
people scared to try different software options.

Anyway, I don't care what people use in general, and this
clearly doesn't apply to my IncrediMail friend .. I just
much prefer to get *my* mail plain text ... there's a switch
for that .. in almost all the clients I've seen :-)

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Re: OT: Sharing after marriage

2002-07-16 Thread Thomas F

Hello Joseph,

On Tue, 16 Jul 2002 09:15:04 -0500 GMT (16/07/02, 21:15 +0700 GMT),
Joseph N. wrote:

JN 4. Password protect files that are critical, like Quicken, calendars,
JN TB!, etc.

I think he is sharing TB with his wife.

But my question is: How do you password-protect files? I managed to
password-protect a directory once, but cannot remember how I did that.
I took the password off before I forgot it. ;-)

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Re: OT: Sharing after marriage

2002-07-16 Thread Thomas F

Hello John,

On Tue, 16 Jul 2002 11:02:35 -0500 GMT (16/07/02, 23:02 +0700 GMT),
John Blue wrote:

JB Computers are designed to entertain

Not in the beginning, but that is what seems to have evolved.

JB and I say if people *want* to send e-mail as html by god let 'em.

Not if they communicate with me. I find the backgrounds most often
annoying, don't care for music accompanying the mail, and please send
me flashing gifs only if you want to make a point, not because it
looks great. It doesn't. And by the way, I'm on dial-up.

JB Strength is diversity not in training conformity.

Great. My mother took a cruise down the Pacific coast of South America
on one of these luxury liners (she fulfilled one of her dreams, and I
think she did the right thing), and she could be reached by the ship's
email address. They charged 1,-DM per KB for incoming or outgoing
emails. Guess what, my sister (not knowing about the charge) sent her
a Christmas greating with animation and stuff, worth several MB. :-(

LT Actually, one of the people I correspond with recently
LT upgraded to IncrediMail,

One thing is true about IncrediMail: it's really incredible...

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Re: OT: Sharing after marriage

2002-07-16 Thread Jonathan Angliss

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 I believe for dual boot you need seperate partitions anyway.
 (Partition Magic comes to mind.) If you have programs or data on the
 NTFS partition (and you will have), I have no idea whether it is
 possible to recover these when you go back to FAT32.

I don't think Win98 can read NTFS... but from WinXP/2k you should be
able to read the FAT32 partition... I *think*... I cannot entirely
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Re: OT: Sharing after marriage

2002-07-16 Thread Dwight A Corrin

On Tuesday, July 16, 2002, 12:52:52 PM, Thomas F wrote:

JB Computers are designed to entertain

 Not in the beginning

I think always. The games were more primitive of course back in days
when computers required their own huge air conditioned rooms and
ground to a halt on days when there were brown outs, and backups were
reel to reel, etc, and you wrote your programs on a keypunch machine.
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Re: OT: Sharing after marriage

2002-07-16 Thread Sudip Pokhrel

Hi Thomas,

On Wed, 17 Jul 2002 00:56:35 +0700 GMT (Jul 16, 23:41 my local time),
you [TF] wrote:

TF I have no idea whether it is possible to recover these when you go
TF back to FAT32.

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Re: OT: Sharing after marriage

2002-07-16 Thread Sudip Pokhrel

Hi Thomas,

On Wed, 17 Jul 2002 00:39:45 +0700 GMT (Jul 16, 23:24 my local time),
you [TF] wrote:

TF I think he is sharing TB with his wife.

I wish Thomas but no, She uses Incredimail sigh

TF How do you password-protect files? I managed to password-protect a
TF directory once, but cannot remember how I did that.

I think there's a third party software which is pretty nifty at this.
I used it once but can't recall its name. It could: password protect
files/directories, prevent deleting and moving  files/directories,
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Re[2]: OT: Sharing after marriage

2002-07-16 Thread Michael Thompson

Hello Sudip,

Wednesday, July 17, 2002, 2:05:03 AM, you wrote:

SP Hi Thomas,

SP On Wed, 17 Jul 2002 00:56:35 +0700 GMT (Jul 16, 23:41 my local time),
SP you [TF] wrote:

TF I have no idea whether it is possible to recover these when you go
TF back to FAT32.

SP AFAIK, you can convert FAT32 to NTFS but not other way around


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Re[2]: OT: Sharing after marriage

2002-07-16 Thread Michael Thompson

Hello Sudip,

Wednesday, July 17, 2002, 2:11:50 AM, you wrote:

SP Hi Thomas,

SP On Wed, 17 Jul 2002 00:39:45 +0700 GMT (Jul 16, 23:24 my local time),
SP you [TF] wrote:

TF I think he is sharing TB with his wife.

SP I wish Thomas but no, She uses Incredimail sigh

TF How do you password-protect files? I managed to password-protect a
TF directory once, but cannot remember how I did that.

SP I think there's a third party software which is pretty nifty at this.
SP I used it once but can't recall its name. It could: password protect
SP files/directories, prevent deleting and moving  files/directories,
SP password protect read-only access, etc..


I think this program you refer to is Magic Folders available from
http://pc-magic.com . Personnal peference is not to encrypt folders,
but to individualy encrypt files. PGP does a good job of this, but
will screw up a XP machine if you try to uninstall it.

To encrypt under a NTFS partition just right click on the
file/Directory and click Propertys -- Advanced. then select
encrypt...

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Re: Re[2]: OT: Sharing after marriage

2002-07-16 Thread Jonathan Angliss

Hi Michael,
On Wed, 17 Jul 2002 04:24:44 +0100, you wrote:

 I think this program you refer to is Magic Folders available from
 http://pc-magic.com . Personnal peference is not to encrypt folders,
 but to individualy encrypt files. PGP does a good job of this, but
 will screw up a XP machine if you try to uninstall it.

In what way?  I uninstalled, and reinstalled two times versions (one was a
different version, the other was because I missed a package) on WinXP only 3
weeks ago... not had any issues.

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Re: OT: Sharing after marriage

2002-07-16 Thread Sudip Pokhrel

Hi Michael,

On Wed, 17 Jul 2002 04:25:30 +0100 GMT (Jul 17, 09:10 my local time),
you [MT] wrote:

MT Partition Magic will quite happily convert NTFS to FAT / FAT32 and
MT Vice versa.

Will it convert NTFS to FAT32 without losing data? I think  XP
converts FAT32 to NTFS without having to format the drive , thereby
maintaining data integrity.

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