Re: Crash on Search in 2.04.4

[Frank J de Bruin]

Mark wrote:
M> Any attempt to use the search facility (F7) brings the
M> Bat to a grinding halt (never-ending hourglass and then
M> a crash).

I experience the same problem.


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Re: Crash on Search in 2.04.4

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Mark,

on Mon, 23 Feb 2004 20:23:46 +GMT, you wrote:

M> Just upgraded from 2.01.3 to 2.04.4 - disasters! The
M> Any attempt to use the search facility (F7) brings the
M> Bat to a grinding halt (never-ending hourglass and then
M> a crash).

 brings up the search window here as supposed, using Win98SE.
Which operating system do you use?

M> How do I get back to the old version!

Restore your backup.?

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Re: Crash on Search in 2.04.4

[Paddy L]

Hello Frank,
On Monday, February 23, 2004 at 12:53:46, you wrote:
M>> Any attempt to use the search facility (F7) brings the
M>> Bat to a grinding halt (never-ending hourglass and then
M>> a crash).

> I experience the same problem.

Not here.

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Re: Crash on Search in 2.04.4

[Paul Cartwright]

 

On Monday, February 23, 2004, 3:42 PM, you wrote:

FJdB> Mark wrote:
M>> Any attempt to use the search facility (F7) brings the
M>> Bat to a grinding halt (never-ending hourglass and then
M>> a crash).

FJdB> I experience the same problem.

I just used F7, searched my recipe folders for "chicken" and it came
back in about 5 seconds with 105 messages. I only searched the body, and
only for a one-word search.

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Re: Crash on Search in 2.04.4

[ETM]

Hello Paul

On Monday, February 23, 2004, you wrote

> I just used F7, searched my recipe folders for "chicken" and it came
> back in about 5 seconds with 105 messages. I only searched the body, and
> only for a one-word search.

I have never had luck searching for more than one word, but
the search mechanism works fine (through single or multiple
folders).

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Re: Crash on Search in 2.04.4

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Aubrey,

On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 20:23:46 +GMT (23-2-04, 21:23 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:

M> Just upgraded from 2.01.3 to 2.04.4 - disasters! The
M> Any attempt to use the search facility (F7) brings the
M> Bat to a grinding halt (never-ending hourglass and then
M> a crash).

Confirmed here on W98 Dutch.

M> How do I get back to the old version!

Install the setup file of the previous version?
Can still be downloaded from the Ritlabs site.

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Re: Crash on Search in 2.04.4

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Mark,

On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 21:07:05 +GMT (23-2-04, 22:07 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:

M> Modes Menu item. I then checked the Help About Box,
M> and my version number had reverted back to 2.01.3!

M> What is happening! I had to blink several times.

Must be XP's restore function intervening.

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Re: Crash on Search in 2.04.4

[ETM]

> Must be XP's restore function intervening.

I use XP and would have to very specifically call on it.
Restore would not happen accidentally without the person
knowing.

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Re: Crash on Search in 2.04.4

[Chris]

Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> @ 23-Feb-2004 3:23:46 PM
"Crash on Search in 2.04.4" 

> Just upgraded from 2.01.3 to 2.04.4 - disasters! The Any attempt to
> use the search facility (F7) brings the Bat to a grinding halt
> (never-ending hourglass and then a crash).
Not confirmed on Windows XP.

> How do I get back to the old version!
Install it. If you message base does not come through properly,
restore from the backup you (should have) made before upgrading.

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Re: Crash on Search in 2.04.4

[Paul Cartwright]

 

On Monday, February 23, 2004, 3:52 PM, you wrote:

M> I'm on XP. Problem.
M> Would need to restore old version of Bat, but I'm
M> worried about causing problems if new features (views)
M> have been recorded in data files - are they backward
M> comparable?  If a fix is going to be posted for this
M> very soon, I can wait.

Before I upgrade to any new version, and at least monthly, I back up my
TB setup. I do this using Allie's backup program ( check the archive),
called tbbackup.bat. I will append MY version of that file here:

start tbbackup.bat
Echo  
Echo  * !!  Updating Backup Archive of TB-Mail!! *
Echo  * (C:\tmp\software\The Bat!\TBBackup\TB-Mail.rar)*
Echo  

REM ;Path C:\Software\winrar
REM ;winrar a -u -as \\Alliem\L\TBBackup\TB-Mail.rar C:\Mail


Path "C:\Program Files\winrar"
copy "C:\tmp\software\The Bat!\TBBackup\TB_Mail.rar"  "C:\tmp\software\The 
Bat!\TBBackup\TB_Mail_OLD.rar"
winrar a -u -as "C:\tmp\software\The Bat!\TBBackup\TB_Mail.rar" "C:\Program Files\The 
Bat!\Mail" 

REM;I backup to my server which has a nice Seagate Cheetah as its main
REM;drive.

REM;C:\Mail is my working mail directory. This should be
REM;"C:\Program Files\The Bat!\Mail" for most.

REM;The path before that defines the name and location of the rar archive
REM;you're backing up to. If one isn't there, it will just create one and
REM;do a full backup on the first go. After that, it simply analyses the
REM;archive and update only the changed files. This saves time and
REM;overhead.

REM;Use the winrar command switches as shown.

REM;a  - create archive

REM;u  - update an existing archive

REM;as - synchronise an existing archive with a target source
 REM;directory/file.

REM;The Echo part just suppresses all the stuff that will normally fill
REM;the console window when the cmd script is running and the announcement
REM;in the asterisk is put in it's place. Makes for a cleaner visual if I
REM;happen to be awake when it starts running.

REM;I do the same for the registry. I do it separately but you could do it
REM;all in one swoop (I guess I will shortly integrate the two. I don't
REM;know why I separated them in the first place). My TB! registry backup
REM;goes like this:


@Echo Off
 
 
Path=C:\Windows
copy "C:\tmp\software\The Bat!\TBBackup\tbreg.reg"  "C:\tmp\software\The 
Bat!\TBBackup\tbreg2.reg"
del "C:\tmp\software\The Bat!\TBBackup\tbreg.reg"
regedit /e "C:\tmp\software\The Bat!\TBBackup\tbreg.reg" hkey_current_user\software\rit



exit


;You could use WinRAR and the system scheduler to do unattended backups
;of many files and folders on your system. No need for 3rd party
;software. :-)
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Re: Crash on Search in 2.04.4

[Dave Gorman]

Hello Mark,

Monday, February 23, 2004, 4:22:15 PM, you wrote:

> OK, might have gained some possible insight into why
> the crach on search is happening to some folks. There
> may be a problem with the install routine on 2.04.4.

That may or may not be a factor, but for me the "crash on search"
started when I upgraded the executable to RC3 (I don't remember
which beta I upgraded from -- I think RC1).

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Re: Crash on Search in 2.04.4

[MAU]

Hello Mark,

> Just upgraded from 2.01.3 to 2.04.4 - disasters! The
> Any attempt to use the search facility (F7) brings the
> Bat to a grinding halt (never-ending hourglass and then
> a crash). How do I get back to the old version!

I had that problem the very first time I upgraded, also from 2.01.3 to
2.04.4. I downgraded and upgraded several times and always with the same
result. As I reported in TBBeta, I finally downloaded 2.02.3 CE (which
is still availabe from Ritlabs web site, and upgraded to that and then
to v2.04.4 and it is working now without problems. So, as I see it,
there _is a problem when upgrading from some earlier versions, at least
from 2.01.3.

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Re: Crash on Search in 2.04.4

[Anne]

On Monday, February 23, 2004, 10:34:11 PM, Dave wrote in message:
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
D> That may or may not be a factor, but for me the "crash on search"
D> started when I upgraded the executable to RC3 (I don't remember
D> which beta I upgraded from -- I think RC1).


Same here Dave - it happened under RC3 and continues under 2.04.4
(and I have only one instance of TB! installed in the same folder
as the previous versions reading mail folder that is still in
the same place also.)

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Re: Crash on Search in 2.04.4

[ken green]

Mark wrote:
> There may be a problem with the install routine on 2.04.4.

> When I installed 2.04.4 over 2.01.3 the installation routine
> presented a default folder for install, which I assumed to be the
> current installation folder. However, the default folder presented
> was c:/program files/TheBat
> The 2.01.03 default installation had been to
> c:/program files/The Bat (note the space)


Yikes!  Is this true?!!?  Isn't this something that should have NEVER,
EVER made it past testing?  I thought 2.04.4 was an official release?

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Re: Crash on Search in 2.04.4

[Martin Schneider]

Hello ken,

on Monday, February 23, 2004, 5:46:12 PM, ken green wrote:

> Yikes!  Is this true?!!?  Isn't this something that should have NEVER,
> EVER made it past testing?  I thought 2.04.4 was an official release?

Probably it is true for some users. However for me it NEVER happened
so far (and for many other users also not). MAU was reporting that
problem. But after installing an older version and then again the
latest version it also was working for him. Up to now we couldn't find
out why in some rare cases this can happen.

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Re: Crash on Search in 2.04.4

[Allie Martin]

Mark, [M] wrote:

M> When I installed 2.04.4 over 2.01.3 the installation routine
M> presented a default folder for install, which I assumed to be the
M> current installation folder. However, the default folder presented
M> was c:/program files/TheBat The 2.01.03 default installation had
M> been to c:/program files/The Bat (note the space)

This is very odd.

TB! normally upgrades an installation, taking the installation path
from the registry so that a prior installation is upgraded. I know
this since for a long time, I had TB! installed in a different
directory from the default and I never had to adjust the installation
path when upgrading.

Are you upgrading or are you uninstalling and then reinstalling each
time?

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Re: Crash on Search in 2.04.4

[dAniel hAhler]

Hello Mark,

on Mon, 23. Feb 2004 at 21:07:05 + you wrote:

M> I then checked the Help About Box, and my version number had
M> reverted back to 2.01.3!

Probably you have two installations somewhere..
Do a systemwide search for thebat.exe..

M> What is happening! I had to blink several times.

Can imagine..


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Re: Crash on Search in 2.04.4

[Stefan Tanurkov]

Hello Mark,

Monday, February 23, 2004, 10:23:46 PM, you wrote:

M> Just upgraded from 2.01.3 to 2.04.4 - disasters! The
M> Any attempt to use the search facility (F7) brings the
M> Bat to a grinding halt (never-ending hourglass and then
M> a crash). How do I get back to the old version!

You shouldn't go back, move further forward - the new build 2.04.7
solves the problem with moving to 2.04 from versions earlier than
2.02.

It's now available from TB! official home page


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Re: Crash on Search in 2.04.4

[Greg Strong]

Hello Stefan,

Tuesday, February 24, 2004, 9:53:25 AM, Stefan Tanurkov wrote:

ST> You shouldn't go back, move further forward - the new build 2.04.7
ST> solves the problem

Just thought I'd let you know the "Back" button did not work on the
install for me.


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Re: Crash on Search in 2.04.4

[Paul Cartwright]

 

On Tuesday, February 24, 2004, 12:48 PM, you wrote:

E>> I have never had luck searching for more than one word, but
E>> the search mechanism works fine (through single or multiple
E>> folders).

rg> I *think* various versions of TB! expect the search term to be entered
rg> differently... My earlier version wanted
rg>chicken&soup

searched using that method, found 18 messages


rg> but the newer version works with
rg> chicken & soup

searched using this method found 17 messages...




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Re: Crash on Search in 2.04.4

[Chris]

Paul Cartwright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> @ 24-Feb-2004 4:10:15 PM
"Crash on Search in 2.04.4" 

>>chicken&soup
> searched using that method, found 18 messages
>> but the newer version works with
>> chicken & soup
> searched using this method found 17 messages...
The second one is probably searching for "chicken " AND " soup".
Notice the spaces. The first one is just looking for the words.

So, the second one did not find the message containing "Make fresh
soup: Add chicken." while the first one did.

NB: This is all speculation. I haven't tested a thing!

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Re: Crash on Search in 2.04.4

[dAniel hAhler]

Hello rich,

on Tue, 24. Feb 2004 at 20:30:17 -0500 you wrote:

rg>>> I *think* various versions of TB! expect the search term to be entered
rg>>> differently... My earlier version wanted
rg>>>chicken&soup
PC>> searched using that method, found 18 messages

rg>>> but the newer version works with
rg>>> chicken & soup
PC>> searched using this method found 17 messages...

> Brings up more questions than it answered for me!

Of course.
To confuse even more, sometimes I see less messages in the result list
than are "counted" as result in the statusline.
If I press Alt-0/Alt-1 they come up.

Very bad, too.


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Re: Crash on Search in 2.04.4

[Paul Cartwright]

 

On Tuesday, February 24, 2004, 8:45 PM, you wrote:

>>>chicken&soup
>> searched using that method, found 18 messages
>>> but the newer version works with
>>> chicken & soup
>> searched using this method found 17 messages...
C> The second one is probably searching for "chicken " AND " soup".
C> Notice the spaces. The first one is just looking for the words.

C> So, the second one did not find the message containing "Make fresh
C> soup: Add chicken." while the first one did.

I was just pointing out that both methods worked. The original email
seemed to imply that something changed, and the search didn't work like
it used to. it may not, but I think both methods work somewhat, if not
exactly the same.

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Re: Crash on Search in 2.04.4

[Paul Cartwright]

 

On Tuesday, February 24, 2004, 8:30 PM, you wrote:

rg>>>chicken&soup
PC>> searched using that method, found 18 messages

rg>>> but the newer version works with
rg>>> chicken & soup
PC>> searched using this method found 17 messages...

rg> Brings up more questions than it answered for me!

the answer is simple:) keep the searches to one word;0)

I've never really tried a complex search on an email. You want complex,
I'll show you some INFORMIX report queries


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Re: Crash on Search in 2.04.4

[Urban]

Tuesday, February 24, 2004, Stefan Tanurkov wrote:

> the new build 2.04.7

Oh no, not another build...

You are far too supportive for us poor modem users. Why don't you just
start saying that every new release contains "surprise new features"
like some other software companies I have heard of.
:-)

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Re: Crash on Search in 2.04.4

[Paul Cartwright]

 

On Wednesday, February 25, 2004, 10:56 AM, you wrote:


rg> HEY! That's GREAT! You've volunteered to write informix queries for my
rg> email searches then!!

been 10 years since I've written any Informix reports, I like to keep
things simple these days, although using TB is making my life complex
again:)

rg> Seriously, 2 words does not a complex search make. If I need to
rg> *RELIABLY* find the email where I invited JANIS to the DANCE (only
rg> want emails where BOTH those words exist):

personally, I'd probably do the search differently. Either just on
JANIS, or use the FROM:, put my name in, then use JANIS as the search.

rg> 1) how should I enter the search strings? Is example 1 or 2 above
rg> correct? They report different matches!

my test showed 17 return emails on one method, 18 on the other, so they
were probably the same for 90+% of the search.

rg> 2) Is it different from version to version?

I can't answer that, did you check the beta archives for SEARCH?

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Re: Crash on Search in 2.04.4

[Andre Wichartz]

Hello rich,

rg> What do ALT-0 & ALT-1 do?

It toggles between non-threaded view and thread by references.

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