Re: Feature Request I'd Like To See in "The Bat!"
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Spyder [S] wrote:'
S> I use multiple email accounts (like 15 or so) with TheBat and would like some
S> better ways to manage them:
S>- make changes to the preferences on a global scale
S>- make filters (anti spam mainly) that can reach all
S>accounts with out having to make them for each account. -
S>have the email checking sequential-able so all the
S>accounts don't check at the same time
You've hit on one of TB!'s main shortcomings, i.e., there's no easy
way to make changes globally, across accounts. You have to configure
each account separately.
Currently filters cannot be created that will work for multiple
accounts.
The only way to make the accounts be checked sequentially is to
adjust the automatic check interval for each account in a way that
will prevent checks occurring at the same time.
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Re: Feature Request I'd Like To See in "The Bat!"
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Allie C Martin [ACM] wrote:'
ACM> Just move the cursor into each paragraph and hit Alt-L. This
ACM> will reflow them. You don't have to select the text block to
ACM> use Alt-l. You only need to have the cursor in the target
ACM> paragraph, and yes, Alt-L works beautifully on quoted text.
ACM> It's one of the reasons why I like TB!'s editor so much.
I forgot to mention that if you have a lot of paragraphs that are
unwrapped in this way, instead of hitting alt-l with the cursor in
each paragraph, you can simply select all the paragraphs, copy them
to the clipboard and then select Edit/Paste Formatted or hit
CTRL-Shift-Insert. That will reflow all paragraphs at once. :)
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Re: Feature Request I'd Like To See in "The Bat!"
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Mike Alexander [MA] wrote:'
MA> A lot thanks. Up till now my filtering has always been haphazard
MA> i.e. examine the mail, if it's spam, make a filter, but what
MA> you've shown makes much more sense of course :)
Well, I was not only being organised. The order in which your
filters appear is critical in how your mail is filtered.
With each message, TB! will check for a matching filter starting
from the filters at the top and working downwards, checking one
filter after the other. As soon as a matching filter is found, the
filter actions are applied and the message is excluded from any
further filter matching. This is why you can have a general filter
at the bottom of the filter list and yet, it doesn't catch all the
messages it can. This is because the messages have already been
matched and as a result excluded from further filtering by filters
further up the filter rules list.
With this said, you may wish multiple filters to be applied to the
same message, and the only way to do this is to enable the option,
'continue processing with other filters', for the filters which will
catch the message initially. Note that if the initial filter moves
the message to another folder, the 'continue processing with other
filters' option will no longer work since the message has been moved
from the inbox to another folder. Messages already matched will
continue to be processed, only if they remain in the inbox.
MA> And while I'm at it, on the subject of features:
MA> I bought the Bat. I tried it out for 25 days and then purchased
MA> (but I knew by about day 5 I would do so). The Editor takes a
MA> bit of getting used to,
Indeed. But I do think it's for good and not just a hassle. BTW, my
opinions aren't official. Though I'm a moderator, I have no
affiliation with Ritlabs. I'm a registered user as anyone else on
this list.
MA> but I was transferring from OE and if I wanted the "features" of
MA> OE I wouldn't have done so. In fact, I much prefer TB.
Agreed. :)
MA> The only annoying thing is when receiving mail from people who
MA> use OL/OE and use rich text/html. It doesn't bl**dy wrap!
MA> It's OK when I'm reading the mail, but when I try and reply I
MA> get 2 or 3 long lines and I have to keep scrolling across to
MA> read what I'm replying too.
Well, you can't really do much about that. If they send you messages
unwrapped then that's what you'll see on your screen though it
should window wrap while reading. The editor will show you the
formatting exactly as received. You therefore immediately see the
bad formatting and adjust it as needed.
Just move the cursor into each paragraph and hit Alt-L. This will
reflow them. You don't have to select the text block to use Alt-l.
You only need to have the cursor in the target paragraph, and yes,
Alt-L works beautifully on quoted text. It's one of the reasons why
I like TB!'s editor so much.
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Re: Feature Request I'd Like To See in "The Bat!"
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Mike Alexander [MA] wrote:'
MA> Thanks. Allie gave me some methods of blocking/deleting i.e a
MA> couple of ways to set up filters. Thanks for your suggestion
MA> too, but I'm kinda old fashioned and I don't like paying out for
MA> software to do something that the software I have should do.
MA> Even if it takes me ages to get my head round it. Must be
MA> slowing up in my old age :). Do appreciate your help though, and
MA> if I can't fix it myself I'll try what you've suggested :)
May I suggest some more then. :)
A very good approach to spam filtering is to do the following:
1) Filter all legitimate mail to their respective folders so that your
filter rules look something like:
2) Filter rules to catch e-mail list traffic.
3) Filter rules to catch mail from family, friends and others in your
address book.
4) Fiter rules to catch newsletters and mail from support groups etc.
5) Follow these rules by your specific spam filters that move matched
messages to a designated spam folder.
6) Follow this with a filter that catches all mail directly addressed
to you.
7) Finally, put below this another filter that catches all mail and
place them in a spam folder (this can be made a common folder).
With this setup, you'll find that 99% of your spam will end up in
your spam folder.
IOW's, you're operating on two assumptions:
a) if the mail isn't from a known source (caught by filters 1 to 4),
is addressed directly to you (filter 6), and is not caught by your
specific spam filter rules (filter 5), then it's not likely to be
spam.
b) if the mail isn't from a known source and is not directly
addressed to you, then it's likely to be spam.
One of your filters for messages from a known source would be one
that checks to see if the sender address is in your address book.
You can automatically extend this filters ability by creating
another that adds the recipient address to the address book for any
mail which you reply to. You could create a miscellaneous address
book group for this purpose. If you're replying to a message then
it's not spam, right? So you can safely add the address to your
address book.
Hope that helps.
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Re: Feature Request I'd Like To See in "The Bat!"
Hello Victor! On Wednesday, December 25, 2002 at 2:28:12 AM you wrote: > Built in calendar with mail scheduling features. > Anniversaries, Birthdays, Holidays, Business... Scheduling: Concur. Full-blown calendar: No. > I would also like to see support for newsgroups which should > be somewhat a standard for mail clients. It was said his will come via plug-in with v2. I'd prefer TB stays an e-mail client. News is much more than mail and there are at least two good news clients on the market (Gravity and Agent, even Free Agent is very good). I also think that mailing lists and Web fori steadily replace Usenet. > Extract information from the body and sort to address book > or to file. Isn't that possible with RegEx? > Reply without using default reply address but templates reply > address. I may misunderstand this, but isn't that what AB templates (perhaps in conjunction with QTs) are for? > A full quick template window instead of the fixed size. Concur. > Instead of one button for all macros it should be much like > the file menu aligned along the top for all macro > categories. Concur. And it should be able to access *all* macros. > Sorting office filters window should not be a fixed size window. Concur. > More options in the sense of one filter with check box > options for read, replied, etc... Hm, that is all in there, just, the usability concept is another one than yours. > Happy Holidays :) Concur. Alright: Merry Christmas to all! -- Dierk Haasis The Bat 1.62 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 2600Service Pack 1 Second Marriage: Another instance of the triumph of hope over experience. (Samuel Johnson) Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Feature Request I'd Like To See in "The Bat!"
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Mike Alexander [MA] wrote:'
MA> And that's a nice present. Much appreciated.
You're welcome.
A Merry Christmas to you and all other TBUDL members.
All the best for the season and the upcoming new year!
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Re: Feature Request I'd Like To See in "The Bat!"
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Mike Alexander [MA] wrote:'
MA> Thank you so much. I have been trying things like *domain.com
MA> and variations using * as a wild card,
The filter system doesn't use simple wild cards. It does use regular
expressions like:
.*@domainname
.* means one or more of any characters. You'll have to enable the
option 'regular expressions' in the filter options for the above
string to be used as a regular expression.
Of course, you could simply use just domainname.
If you use the simple string 'domainname', TB! will just look for
domainname in the sender address.
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Re: Feature Request I'd Like To See in "The Bat!"
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Mike Alexander [MA] wrote:'
MA> Here, I have to agree. I've been using it for 3 months now and I
MA> still can't make a filter that will block a specific domain,
.*@domain name
For example, if I wanted to filter all mail from addresses using the
domain name hotmail.com, I'd just use the filter string:
'hotmail.com' in the sender address.
You can use the same filter string in the selective downloads
filter.
MA> a specific country prefix, anything that isn't addressed to me,
MA> etc.
your e-mail address
recipient
presence - No
MA> And I can't find any help anywhere that makes any sense to me.
MA> And when I asked people here, no-one replied.
For those two specific questions? Strange.
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Re: Feature Request I'd Like To See in "The Bat!"
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Paul, PS> I mentioned this feature request before, but nobody replied to my PS> post. PS> When editing a message I'd like to see the status of: PS> Auto Format PS> Auto Wrap PS> Justify on Auto Wrap PS> displayed on the bottom of the edit screen where the character/line counter PS> is shown. Since we're talking about feature request I've got a few. Built in calendar with mail scheduling features. Anniversaries, Birthdays, Holidays, Business... I would also like to see support for newsgroups which should be somewhat a standard for mail clients. I would like to see better, more versatile support for templates & filters. i.e. Templates: Extract information from the body and sort to address book or to file. Reply without using default reply address but templates reply address. A full quick template window instead of the fixed size. Instead of one button for all macros it should be much like the file menu aligned along the top for all macro categories. Filters: Sorting office filters window should not be a fixed size window. More options in the sense of one filter with check box options for read, replied, etc... I got many more Ideas I would love to see implemented but this was off the top of my head. Good luck :) Happy Holidays :) - -- Best regards, Victor B. Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.62 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Request My PGP Public Keys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] iQA/AwUBPgkJcF3LB35+TCg0EQKvugCg41XcL+iPAvt9LMlus0+QEs8pSBIAoNXF UvAY+q5H4mR0j7IIQ9muMdWq =trJv -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
