Re: K9 spam filter
Hello P.Johnson everyone else, on 30-Nov-2004 at 17:11 you (P.Johnson) wrote: K9 learns and works very quickly Except for the nigeria connection scam mails of which I get at least two a day on three accounts ATM. K9 repeatedly misses those. *sigh* so this is frustrating; don't know whether it's a K9 problem or a TB problem, but suspect the latter. Is it a common filter? Maybe you've just forgotten to share it with your accounts. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) using TB! v3.0.2.8 on Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2 If God dropped acid, would He see people? Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: K9 spam filter
Hæ!
My filter looks like this:
TB! Message Filter
beginFilter
UID: [564C1620.01C4B05E.1A441C3F.7FE14B3D]
Name: SPAM
Filter: {\0D\0A\20`5`0`X-Text-Classification:\20junk\0D\0A}
MoveMessage folder \5C\5C\5C$JUNK$
MarkRead
SetColour 226723330
IsActive
Ignore
IsSendQueue
endFilter
and it works perfectly. It is the last filter in a list of *account*
filters.
It has nothing to do with K9, but this common filter works, too:
TB! Message Filter
beginFilter
UID: [9E420870.01C4ADF9.5ED08BA5.73489440]
Name: junk
Filter: {\0D\0A\20`4`2`Get\20a\20capable\20html\20e-mailer\0D\0A}
SetColour 1981009950
MoveMessage folder \5C\5C\5C$JUNK$
MarkRead
IsActive
Ignore
endFilter
BTW, is there a way to let TB display the filters in a more readable
and accessible format?
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Re: K9 spam filter
Hello Code 2 everyone else, on 30-Nov-2004 at 19:06 you (Code 2) wrote: ASK Except for the nigeria connection scam mails of which I get at least two a ASK day on three accounts ATM. K9 repeatedly misses those. *sigh* They're troublesome for my filter, too. I figure it's because except for spam words like Nigeria, Togo and Central African Republic, the text is generally found in the good word database. Yes, but its odd that PopFile always successfully identified them, while I've been training K9 for 20 days or something and it still misses them... The blacklist feature now helps me filter these more effectively. I just activated K9's DNS blacklist, hope it helps... I'm tempted to improve my english cursing and swearing skills on those guys a lot, really. :-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) using TB! v3.0.2.8 on Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2 I must say that I find television very educational. The minute somebody turns it on, I go to the library and read a book. -- Groucho Marx Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: K9 spam filter
Hello Thorvald Neumann everyone else,
on 30-Nov-2004 at 19:00 you (Thorvald Neumann) wrote:
Filter: {\0D\0A\20`5`0`X-Text-Classification:\20junk\0D\0A}
You altered the default header from spam to junk. Unless Pat did that,
it won't work for her. :-)
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Re: K9 spam filter
ON Tuesday, November 30, 2004, 5:58:20 PM, you wrote: ASK Except for the nigeria connection scam mails of which I get at least two a ASK day on three accounts ATM. K9 repeatedly misses those. *sigh* BayesFilter catches these for me nicely. It is weak on other mails though :( -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- As you walk down the fairway of life you must smell the roses, for you only get to play one round. -Ben Hogan Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: K9 spam filter
Hæ! Tuesday, November 30, 2004, 19:24, Alexander S. Kunz wrote: You altered the default header from spam to junk. Unless Pat did that, it won't work for her. :-) Ah, yes. I thought my old PopFile-filters would work with K9 when I just changed the header-addition. And guess what, the filters work... ;) -- Kveðja, Thorvald Neumann | http://www.aesir.de/ | The Bat! v3.0.2.8 Professional K9 v1.28 | Windows 2000 SP4 (v5.0.2195) +---+ | Get Firefox - Take back the web! | | http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=affiliatesamp;id=22411amp;t=1 | +---+ Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: K9 spam filter
ON Tuesday, November 30, 2004, 5:58:20 PM, you wrote: ASK Except for the nigeria connection scam mails of which I get at least two a ASK day on three accounts ATM. K9 repeatedly misses those. *sigh* Hi Alexander, I usually alert the company which email is being abused by sending a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have collect so friendly thank you´s like this one today: ASK Dear Sir/Madam, ASK ASK Thank you for bringing a 419 Internet abuser to our attention. ASK ASK We have identified the user, locked the mailbox and rendered the account unusable. ASK ASK We would like to take this opportunity to thank you once again for bringing ASK this to our attention and for helping us to address this serious issue. ASK ASK Yours faithfully ASK Tiscali Abuse Team ASK [EMAIL PROTECTED] Taking action is always better then sitting still and taking the punches :) -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- What's the point of washing off your ball when teeing off on a water hole? Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: K9 spam filter
Hello Gerard everyone else, on 30-Nov-2004 at 19:44 you (Gerard) wrote: ASK Except for the nigeria connection scam mails of which I get at least two a ASK day on three accounts ATM. K9 repeatedly misses those. *sigh* BayesFilter catches these for me nicely. It is weak on other mails though :( It may depend on how you handle whitelisted mails. I added the TB lists (and a couple of other english lists) to the whitelist and had the whitelisted messages added to the ham database (I thought it would be good to let the ham database), but now it seems to me it is better to let the whitelisted mails not go to the database since the english language 419 mails get thru, maybe there'se too little difference... -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) using TB! v3.0.2.8 on Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2 An optimist thinks that this is the best possible world. A pessimist fears that this is true. Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: K9 spam filter
ON Tuesday, November 30, 2004, 8:35:09 PM, you wrote: ASK now it seems to me it is better to let the ASK whitelisted mails not go to the database since the english language 419 ASK mails get thru, maybe there'se too little difference... That is how I have set it up. -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- By the time a man can afford to lose a golf ball, he can't hit it that far. Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: K9 spam filter
Hello P.Johnson everyone else, on 30-Nov-2004 at 18:51 you (P.Johnson) wrote: ASK Is it a common filter? Maybe you've just forgotten to share it with your ASK accounts. I've set up two separate filters for the two accounts, using two slightly different conditions. And, neither works consistently. It seems strange that some mail classified as spam would be moved to the correct folder, and others also marked would not be moved by the filter. I've configured K9 to *not* add the spam percentage count to the header so that it'll simply contain spam. IIRC the default setting is to include that counter so the header is spam[89] or something. Maybe thats the problem. Thanks for your help! Now, if it would only work! :-) -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) using TB! v3.0.2.8 on Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2 The real danger is not that computers will begin to think like men, but that men will begin to think like computers. -- Sydney J. Harris Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: K9 spam filter
Hello Gerard, On Tuesday, November 30, 2004 at 19:44:25 GMT +0100 (which was 19:44:25 where I live), Gerard wrote and made these valuable points on the subject of K9 spam filter: G ON Tuesday, November 30, 2004, 5:58:20 PM, you wrote: ASK Except for the nigeria connection scam mails of which I get at least two a ASK day on three accounts ATM. K9 repeatedly misses those. *sigh* G BayesFilter catches these for me nicely. G It is weak on other mails though :( That's why I stopped using a Bayes based filter. The spammers are getting very smart and know their ways to cheat these filters. I installed a challenge/response based spam filter and not a single spam mail got to my inbox since then (and that without training it ;-) ). -- Best regards, Dick ___ The older you get, the better you realize you were. Using The Bat! v3.0.2.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: K9 spam filter
On Tuesday, November 30, 2004, 22:02:04, Dick H. wrote: That's why I stopped using a Bayes based filter. The spammers are getting very smart and know their ways to cheat these filters. I installed a challenge/response based spam filter and not a single spam mail got to my inbox since then (and that without training it ;-) ). No problems with bayesian filters here - OTOH, I ignore challenges from challenge-response systems, and I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one. Nothing is more annoying than somebody asking you for help, and then, when you answer him, getting Please reply to this message to confirm or Click this link. (Well, there may be another, even more annoying thing - that is C/R systems that autosubscribe themselves to mailing lists, or C/R that challenges every poster to a mailing list). -- Jernej Simoncic http://deepthought.ena.si/ A computer makes as many mistakes in two seconds as 20 men working 20 years. -- Horowitz's Rule Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: K9 spam filter
Hello Jernej, On Tuesday, November 30, 2004 at 22:18:06 GMT +0100 (which was 22:18:06 where I live), Jernej Simoncic wrote and made these valuable points on the subject of K9 spam filter: JS On Tuesday, November 30, 2004, 22:02:04, Dick H. wrote: That's why I stopped using a Bayes based filter. The spammers are getting very smart and know their ways to cheat these filters. I installed a challenge/response based spam filter and not a single spam mail got to my inbox since then (and that without training it ;-) ). JS No problems with bayesian filters here - OTOH, I ignore challenges from JS challenge-response systems, and I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one. JS Nothing is more annoying than somebody asking you for help, and then, when JS you answer him, getting Please reply to this message to confirm or Click JS this link. (Well, there may be another, even more annoying thing - that is JS C/R systems that autosubscribe themselves to mailing lists, or C/R that JS challenges every poster to a mailing list). I fully understand your objections against such a system but there are challenge-response systems and challenge-response systems. Whenever I send a message to somebody (even when it is not yet in my address book) and this persons replies to my email, his answer will end up straight in my inbox and no message is being sent first for any confirmation. As I have loaded my address book in this filter, I haven't received any complaints from my friends, etc. (they simply don't know that I have such a filter active). What I have seen is that my blacklist is growing and growing with many spam email addresses. IMHO, I'm afraid that Bayes based spamfilters will lose the battle in the long run as the spammers will figure out ways to bypass it. -- Best regards, Dick ___ My uncle just turned 75. He never married, and someone asked him if it was because he had never found the perfect woman. 'I found her,' he said. 'But she was looking for the perfect man.' Using The Bat! v3.0.2.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: K9 spam filter
Hello P.Johnson,
Tuesday, November 30, 2004, 4:55:58 AM, you wrote:
PJ The filter is as follows:
PJ TB! Message Filter
PJ beginFilter
PJ UID: [97E80840.01C492FE.7689AE34.682BBB08]
PJ Name: K9\20Anti-Spam
PJ Filter: {\0D\0A\20`7`X-Text-Classification`0`\20spam\0D\0A}
PJ MoveMessage folder \5C\5Cpatnet\5C$JUNK$
PJ IsActive
PJ endFilter
PJ Email marked as spam stays resolutely in the inbox. Any ideas?
This one works for me:
TB! Message Filter
beginFilter
UID: [4A31FDE0.01C49062.236C3EE8.40D55E8C]
Name: K9\20Spam
Filter: {0\0D\0A0`5`0`X-Text-Classification:\20spam\0D\0A}
MoveMessage folder \5C\5CMark\5CInbox\5CSpam\20Trap\20K9
DeleteFromServer
IsActive
IsSendQueue
endFilter
I already had it in the OFS.
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Re: K9 spam filter
Hello P.Johnson, Tuesday, November 30, 2004, 4:55:58 AM, you wrote: I've set up K9 anti-spam and the TB filters to move spam to a junk folder, but for some reason the filter isn't working. K9 allows you to use the message header X-Text-Classification to identify spam for the purpose of filtering it. Just to be on the safe side - you do have defined the header field X-Text-Classification in Preferences | Messages | Message Headers? -- Best regards, Alexandermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
