Re: RitLabs The Bat password

2003-10-05 Thread Allie Martin
Rich Gregory, [RG] wrote:

RG Eudora's answer for this was a tab available during mssg creation
RG that would pull up a list of 'sig' files. Not nearly as powerful as
RG termplates by a long shot, but it is what I was used too!

By a long shot indeed. I never really started using a lot of signatures
until I started using TB! The set and forget functionality makes it so
convenient. :)

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Re: RitLabs The Bat password

2003-10-05 Thread Andrew Hodgson
 Hello Marck,

Saturday, October 4, 2003, 11:43:50 PM, you wrote:

MDP Hi Andrew,

MDP @4-Oct-2003, 23:15 Andrew Hodgson [AH] in
MDP mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Vishal:

MDP New messages are a bit trickier...

V Do you have to do it this way? Won't just typing the address
V in/selecting from the address book work?

AH but once the address has been typed in correctly, I would like a
AH specific template to be used, with list signatures and the like.
AH It this possible without faffing with the address book?

MDP What's to avoid? AB templates are *the* solution. Especially when
MDP you can put all of your lists in a group and write templates for the
MDP Lists group and have them apply to all lists you write to!

  Thanks,  that  is  what I want.  I have managed to convert my folder
  templates  to  address  book  templates  with  no  hastle, and it is
  working as expected.

Thanks,
Andrew.

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Re: RitLabs The Bat password

2003-10-05 Thread Andrew Hodgson
 Hello Allie,

Sunday, October 5, 2003, 1:55:13 AM, you wrote:

AM New message, then type 'TBUDL', address autocomplete kicks in to
AM complete the address. I then tab into the message body area and voila,
AM tbudl new message template applied.

  Yes, this is what I am doing now.

Thanks,
Andrew.

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Re: RitLabs The Bat password

2003-10-05 Thread Edgar
Hello Gerrit,

Sunday, October 5, 2003, 4:48:22 PM, you wrote:

 Hello Andrew,


Andrew   Thanks,  that  is  what I want.  I have managed to convert my folder
Andrew   templates  to  address  book  templates  with  no hastle, and it is
Andrew   working as expected.

 I have templates in all my folders also. How did you convert them to
 your addressbook. Was this easy to do or is it hard, i.e. delete/move
 from folder and paste them in your addresdbook?

You have to copy and paste them when you are using different templates
for each person. A Better way is to split up your address book in
groups and use the group templates.

It would be helpful if you could go into a address of a person and
then select a next option to go to the next person and stay in the
same tab so you can change things faster.

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Re: RitLabs The Bat password

2003-10-05 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Gerrit,

On Sun, 5 Oct 2003 17:19:56 +0200GMT (5-10-03, 17:19 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

GK Thank you. Well, i have quite a few mailinglists in dutch and english
GK and i want of course my replies start with the right language and
GK sentences. Will do that as described.

You can sort the addresses of those mailinglists into two address book
groups and make AB group templates and not individual AB templates,
that's easier.

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Re: RitLabs The Bat password

2003-10-05 Thread Andrew Hodgson
Hello Gerrit,

Sunday, October 5, 2003, 3:48:22 PM, you wrote:

GK Hello Andrew,


Andrew   Thanks,  that  is  what I want.  I have managed to convert my folder
Andrew   templates  to  address  book  templates  with  no hastle, and it is
Andrew   working as expected.

GK I have templates in all my folders also. How did you convert them to
GK your addressbook. Was this easy to do or is it hard, i.e. delete/move
GK from folder and paste them in your addresdbook?

  I did have to use cut/paste quite a bit, luckily I did not have many
  lists  imported  in TB so only had around three folders to sort out,
  but  I had also been affected by sending wrong information to a list
  using the folder templates, which is why I wanted to convert.

Andrew.

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Re: RitLabs The Bat password

2003-10-05 Thread Andrew Hodgson
Hello Gerrit,

Sunday, October 5, 2003, 5:15:00 PM, you wrote:

GK Hi Andrew,
GK On Sun, 5 Oct 2003, at 16:45:54 [GMT +0100] (which was 17:45 where I
GK live) you wrote:

Andrew   I did have to use cut/paste quite a bit, luckily I did not have many
Andrew   lists  imported  in TB so only had around three folders to sort out,
Andrew   but  I had also been affected by sending wrong information to a list
Andrew   using the folder templates, which is why I wanted to convert.

GK Thanks Andrew. But Roelof has given me a great solution by using
GK groups templates. So i will get cutting and pasting where needed.

  Yes, I did think you meant group templates - this is what I am doing
  now.   With  the group templates, I can write specific list messages
  even without the list going into a specific folder!

Andrew.

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Re: RitLabs The Bat password

2003-10-04 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
Hi Rich,

@4-Oct-2003, 13:09 -0400 (04-Oct 18:09 UK time) rich gregory [RG] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to rich:

RG For TheBat registration

RG name:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RG password:   x

Oh dear. Time for a stock folder template lecture :-(.

I know that Leif has a workaround macro to ensure that it doesn't go
wrong, but this is a lecture worth reading.

stock lecture
I have a pet hate in TB. That pet hate is named Folder Templates. In
150 folders I have two and only two that have folder templates. They
are for two specific lists that don't set the reply address properly.

There is nothing else for which folder templates can be used that
can't be covered and even improved upon using Address Book templates.
There are dangers in using Folder Templates that are not there when
you use AB templates.

The dangers are all complacency based and are at their worst in
templates which use the %TO= macro. If, at the instant you start a
new message you happen to be focused on the wrong folder, the message
gets given the wrong address. This happens when you click a mailto
without changing folders. The results vary from embarrassing to
excruciating depending upon the content of the misdirected mail.

BTW - another mistake in such templates is to use the construct
%TO=[EMAIL PROTECTED] without a %TO='' before it. So any
pre-existing addresses are retained.

Back to the lecture: every time I say this, someone takes exception to
something I've said with comments like 'danger' is a bit harsh or
I've used Folder templates for ages and it's never gone wrong for
me.

Here's a fact for you: it goes wrong. That's why I'm writing this
message yet again.

It works exactly as designed and that design has a fundamental flaw.
The flaw is that it places too much responsibility on the user to make
sure that the addresses given on a new message are those intended.

With address book templates, there is never a mistake of this kind.
Replies are perfectly directed. New messages are a bit trickier.
Instead of clicking to the folder then clicking for a new message, you
have to click to the right of the new message button and select the
list address from the favourites (having denoted that the address *is*
a favourite in the address book).
/stock lecture

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Re: RitLabs The Bat password

2003-10-04 Thread rich gregory
Saturday, October 4, 2003, 1:09:43 PM, I wrote:
rg For TheBat registration
rg name:   [an email address]
rg password:   [a password]

SH*T!!  I MEANT to send that to myself as a record of my purchase.

DAMN IT!  That was stupid.  I hope no one can use this against me or somehow steal a 
registration for TB.

CR*P.  I ask EVERYBODY to please ignore that message!

(OK, So like YOU never do anything stupid!)

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Re: RitLabs The Bat password

2003-10-04 Thread Edgar
Hello rich,

Saturday, October 4, 2003, 7:43:11 PM, you wrote:

 CR*P.  I ask EVERYBODY to please ignore that message!

What message? :-)

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Re: RitLabs The Bat password

2003-10-04 Thread Paul Wilson
Saturday, 10/4/2003, 12:01 PM

Hi rich,
On Sat, 4 Oct 2003, at 13:43:11 [GMT -0400] (which was 10:43 AM where I live) 
you wrote about: 'RitLabs The Bat password'

rg CR*P.  I ask EVERYBODY to please ignore that message!

rg (OK, So like YOU never do anything stupid!)

Could you please send the info again? I deleted it the first time. BG
At  least  you  didn't  send  a credit card number to a list with 300 thousand
people on it, like I did once. That card is gone now. G
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Re: RitLabs The Bat password

2003-10-04 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
Hi Vishal,

@4-Oct-2003, 17:13 -0400 (04-Oct 22:13 UK time) Vishal [V] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck:

MDP New messages are a bit trickier...

V Do you have to do it this way? Won't just typing the address
V in/selecting from the address book work?

For sure - but that stock lecture is for those who have tried to
make things easier than that :-).

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Re: RitLabs The Bat password

2003-10-04 Thread Mark Wieder
rich-

You might want to check out PINs for keeping track of passwords and
such. It's at http://www.mirekw.com/winfreeware/pins.html.

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Re: RitLabs The Bat password

2003-10-04 Thread Andrew Hodgson
  Hello Vishal,

Saturday, October 4, 2003, 10:13:48 PM, you wrote:

V Hi Marck

V Saturday, October 4, 2003, 1:40:46 PM, you wrote:


MDP New messages are a bit trickier.
MDP Instead of clicking to the folder then clicking for a new message, you
MDP have to click to the right of the new message button and select the
MDP list address from the favourites (having denoted that the address *is*
MDP a favourite in the address book).

V Do you have to do it this way? Won't just typing the address in/selecting from
V the address book work?

  What  I  would  really  like is to start a new message; I don't mind
  typing  in  the list address, but once the address has been typed in
  correctly,  I  would  like a specific template to be used, with list
  signatures  and the like.  It this possible without faffing with the
  address  book?  Also, are reply templates as problematic in a folder
  template as specific new message folder templates?

Andrew.

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Re: RitLabs The Bat password

2003-10-04 Thread Allie Martin
Andrew Hodgson, [AH] wrote:

AH What I would really like is to start a new message; I don't mind
AH typing in the list address, but once the address has been typed in
AH correctly, I would like a specific template to be used, with list
AH signatures and the like. It this possible without faffing with the
AH address book? Also, are reply templates as problematic in a folder
AH template as specific new message folder templates?

If you have a new message template defined for the list address within
your address book, then typing the list address in the To: field and
then tabbing into the message body area will automatically apply the new
message template you defined for the list. I do this all the time.

New message, then type 'TBUDL', address autocomplete kicks in to
complete the address. I then tab into the message body area and voila,
tbudl new message template applied.

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