Re[2]: The Bat! v2 Upg Price of $17.50 until October 31, then what?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Thomas, Monday, September 8, 2003, 12:58:21 AM, you wrote: TF I also haven't read this. Or I must be getting old - let me find my TF Gingko Biloba. Hm. Can you point me to a mid saying that anybody got TF a free key because he registered within two months from the release of TF v2? Finally after two e-mail and a phone call my new Ver 2.x serial number arrived. Thanks for every ones support. - -- Best regards, Dangermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBP13jDHrWNKgp50M4EQIR8wCfeVivAFAV6n6Ca2Bk1JvcXvQwPUIAnifT ZJOQNL1AVL0tJp12biCglDPy =kRJP -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: The Bat! v2 Upg Price of $17.50 until October 31, then what?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Thomas, Monday, September 8, 2003, 12:58:21 AM, you wrote: TF I also haven't read this. Or I must be getting old - let me find my TF Gingko Biloba. Hm. Can you point me to a mid saying that anybody got TF a free key because he registered within two months from the release of TF v2? Again please refer to a threat I have created called Amnesty. There is a user there who states this clearly. - -- Best regards, Dangermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBP1yUEXrWNKgp50M4EQIIyACg1njxiBpIPr7pbcy7dmCUs/neXC0An3Xy 9Gf6Fj8ekzjGOR3UgJDx9iHC =4xif -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: The Bat! v2 Upg Price of $17.50 until October 31, then what?
Monday, September 8, 2003, 6:13:26 AM, Pixie wrote: P To a large extent the internet and the instant gratification P it brings especially with software is tiresome at times. I P used to never know doodle about alpha/beta stages and having P the freshest version just wasn't a consideration unless P problems came up. I never used to keep this current (disregard P my OS :-) on so many applications when it required long P distance BBS calls at the all too slow baud rates of the day. Many years ago, about 1985, I was an active Compu$erve user. I was using one of the first Macintoshes and used a really cool comm program called Red Ryder. It was very slick with great macros, xmodem, etc. I used Red Ryder to access Compu$erve and after a while it slowly dawned on me that the main reason I was using Compu$erve was to download new versions of RR. Eventually, I cancelled that service. Even way back then, I was fascinated with the ability of the world-wide communication that enabled. I was so proud of that 1200 baud modem when I got it! :) -- Dave Kennedy Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: The Bat! v2 Upg Price of $17.50 until October 31, then what?
Hi Alexander, I use The Bat! since May '99 and for four years we got MAJOR enhancements for free. If some other company has produced the Bat, the very same program with the same feature set would be in version 4 or 5 and not 2.00.6. Believe me 1.60 was a major upgrade to 1.50 which was a major upgrade to 1.40 and so forth. A If that is so then what, in the name of everything that doesn't suck, A would've been the problem to say registered before 1.50 release = high A update fee while registered before 1.60 release = moderate upgrade fee A and registered after 1.60 release = lower upgrade fee? The rationale here I think is that it is a smaller jump from 1.6 to 2.0, and therefor you shouldn't pay as much? But this thinking is the reason that Microsoft NEVER releases any updates, short of bug fixes. Anything new is squirreled away for a couple of years, until a new version comes out. The point is that what you suggest would encourage that. Why bother releasing new features as minor updates if you people are going to then complain that 2.0 is not much different than 1.6? You are just going to shoot yourself in the pocketbook. Better to keep 1.0 out forever, release bug fixes as .01 and .02 revisions, and keep all the new features for 2.0. Then you can charge everyone 75% of the full price for the upgrade...insert MS business plan here. I believe it is Microsoft's way of doing business that sucks. Ritlabs, while not exactly scoring a 10, is doing what they can to make some money, which is difficult. I do agree that the 2-month cutoff is a bad idea. -- Caio, Christopher Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: The Bat! v2 Upg Price of $17.50 until October 31, then what?
Bonjour Deborah, Monday, September 8, 2003, 4:48:13 AM, j'ai pu lire: DW It's my understanding that it isn't a policy, but rather that inaccurate DW information was posted on the German website during that period of time, DW saying that those who registered TB v1. would get v2 free, that DW Ritlabs are therefore honouring that. Others, who were never promised a DW free update, are getting the 50% discount, which *is* the policy. Well, I was told my Stefan himself that the upgrade would be free in May 2003 after having asked him by email. In spite of the 2 mails I sent to RITlabs, I still have not received any new reg key nor any answer. So, I'm back under 1.6x, before the trial expires. Hope they will honor *that* promise. btw: Stefan, if you read this email... -- / _.'\ \Julien RANC / _.'\ \ /_.-'\___\ email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |\_\ `` .- \ _/| ICQ# : 36623205 | _\___. | | / \ | |/\| |__| Using The Bat! 1.63 Beta/7 s/n 96299A48 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: The Bat! v2 Upg Price of $17.50 until October 31, then what?
At 5:14 PM on 9/8/2003, Mark Wieder typed ... M Anyway, I figure Brook hangs around because either A) he can't figure M out how to unsubscribe and is too embarrassed to ask or B) he's hoping M that someday *somebody* will pipe up with how to get multiple accounts M working on TB. g TB has lots of obscure features. After 3+ years with the program, I still learn something new every now and then* (and there are several areas I haven't even looked at). Somehow, though, I think anyone who can't figure out multiple accounts on TB probably should be allowed around a computer unsupervised. *When I have time to read TBUDL, now and then means about twice a day. -- Bill Blinn Technology Editor ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - 9/8/2003 at 5:20 PM Technology Editor, Newsradio 610 WTVN, Columbus, Ohio Using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Random thought: I have enough money to last me the rest of my life, unless I buy something. -- Jackie Mason Featured speaker at PowerPoint Live - Tucson, Arizona October 12-15, 2003 - http://www.pptlive.com/ Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: The Bat! v2 Upg Price of $17.50 until October 31, then what?
Monday, September 8, 2003, 5:14:54 PM, Mark wrote: M B) he's hoping that someday *somebody* will pipe up with how M to get multiple accounts working on TB. g I've never understood this complaint from people on the list. I selected TB! quite a few years ago primarily because of its ability to handle multiple accounts. At the time the only other MUA that could do so was Becky and Eudora Pro. I found TB! to be better for my needs. Hint for setting up additional accounts: Account-New... -- Dave Kennedy Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: The Bat! v2 Upg Price of $17.50 until October 31, then what?
MAU, M Hello Brook, I've used the bat under windows for years now. As for multiple accounts I dont care anymore since even if it does do it I already have a clinet I have been using jsut as long that does do it. M Am I reading correctly? Do you mean you have been using The Bat for M years and you didn't know it could handle multiple accounts? I've been sitting here all day trying to figure out how long ago it was that TB did NOT support multiple accounts . . . Be well, Allen -- | One of my poems chosen at random specifically for you: | http://jarday.com/Loosely%20inspired/peace5.shtml | | Running The_Bat! version 2.00.6 | Windows XP Service Pack 1 build 2600 -- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Re[2]: The Bat! v2 Upg Price of $17.50 until October 31, then what?
I've been sitting here all day trying to figure out how long ago it was that TB did NOT support multiple accounts . . . sorry to be fair it's been a long time since I tried and have been using kmail for he most part since then. Any email client under windows for only gets occasional use. Be well, Allen Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: The Bat! v2 Upg Price of $17.50 until October 31, then what?
Hi Jamie, A And what a lot of people are overseeing is that the v2 license is not one A person but one computer. So, if you're using TB on your laptop and your A home computer, you need another full license AFAIK. JD I don't know about this, although it seems to be standard practice for JD most software companies Before I registered for the first time, I emailed RitLabs, asking if it was ok to put one license on my laptop and desktop (My question was about the synchronize feature, which led to 'do I need 2 licenses to use it'). They assured me it was within the licensing agreement to do so. I would tend to agree with the following statement: Give these guys a break. I would have gladly paid $17.50 for a maintenance contract on v1, but I didn't need to - the upgrades were free! Writing and selling software myself, I can Sympatize. Documentation, for example, unbelievably time consuming to keep updated. I say, give'em the benefit of the doubt, they aren't out to bite our hands, they just haven't documented their intentions very well. -- Caio, Christopher Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm using The Bat! v2.00.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: The Bat! v2 Upg Price of $17.50 until October 31, then what?
Hello ETM (State of Virginia), ETM (State of Virginia) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Sunday, September 7, 2003 at 6:41:55 PM ESoV Sorry, folks, have now read today's thread, realize I freaked and ESoV panicked, that some here are considering what I am considering, a ESoV buy-now, use-later. How flakey is the new release? ESoV Elaine I installed version 2.00 straight after it came available on september 1st and have not had any problems so far. -- Best regards, Cyber Touristmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sunday, September 7, 2003 - 8:36:39 PM === Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). ESoV ESoV Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: ESoV http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: The Bat! v2 Upg Price of $17.50 until October 31, then what?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Alexander, Sunday, September 7, 2003, 11:43:58 AM, you wrote: A (in short, the article says that anyone who registered between Oct7 2002 A and Jan5 2003 is eligible for a free update to v2, this has been confirmed A in an email from Ritlabs to the site owner) A The above link is a follow-up to: A http://www.batworld.de/newswriter/article.php?article_file=1062529840.txt I am afraid I must point out that I registered exactly two months - one day from the release of V2.00 and I contacted the author I was told that The update cost was Obligatory This is documented in this forum under the title of thread of Amnesty So they are at least not in the US honoring that policy. -- Best regards, dangermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBP1vftXrWNKgp50M4EQKDygCfWFcoJyxd5FsAU5tXL2M99Oell2IAnRfW GyM/7XqIbtAAlvZOPvekPvlT =EV4g -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: The Bat! v2 Upg Price of $17.50 until October 31, then what?
Hello Deborah, Sunday, September 7, 2003, 10:48:13 PM, you wrote: DW On Sunday, September 7, 2003, 9:47:39 PM, danger h wrote: DW It's my understanding that it isn't a policy, but rather that inaccurate DW information was posted on the German website during that period of time, DW saying that those who registered TB v1. would get v2 free, that DW Ritlabs are therefore honouring that. Others, who were never promised a DW free update, are getting the 50% discount, which *is* the policy. I think the issue I am objecting to is there is no clear policy stated and others have received free updates, -- Best regards, dangermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 2.00 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
