Re: Read Filters
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 M Remember what Al+F2 does? It opens the shortcut editor :-) How did you manage that? When I try to set it up using the spacebar it's not registered; the shortcut reads 'none'. - -- Stuart Using The Bat! v2.03 Beta/53 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Aided by BayesIt! 0.4gm PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com Error: Press any key to continue or any other key to quit. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0 Comment: Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com; iQA/AwUBQCdOUdttnLhkydF1EQI+gwCgqbSV8CnjGjUzjvirlD1/i9SCdB4AnRPr 5ABY0C0szH3V1LnZK2ljEz5T =fvjy -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Read Filters
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 AM Interesting. Never could do that. Lucky you. :) I'd use read filters AM more if that worked here. I manually mark all mine read and the read filter works, it's just if I mark multiple messages that I have a problem. - -- Stuart Using The Bat! v2.03 Beta/53 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Aided by BayesIt! 0.4gm PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com Don't draw fire; it irritates the people around you. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0 Comment: Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com; iQA/AwUBQCdO/tttnLhkydF1EQLzjACg4sSajW09F4C4qfAN9pqd5E8nhfsAn2rH aA0G7xSqgVIGkzmdxa4VVbAi =02OW -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Read Filters
Hello Stuart, How did you manage that? When I try to set it up using the spacebar it's not registered; the shortcut reads 'none'. To tell you the truth, I don't remember. I did it a long time ago. I seem to recall there was some conflict and that I had to change some other shortcut first, but I'm not even sure about this -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Read Filters
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 M To tell you the truth, I don't remember. I did it a long time ago. I M seem to recall there was some conflict and that I had to change some M other shortcut first, but I'm not even sure about this I've cleared the existing shortcut that used space, but as I couldn't even assign the key I can't see how that could have been the problem. [later] I've just tried with another - in use - shortcut and it allowed me to do that. I think that this is a bug. I've posted something in TBBETA asking if someone else could try using SPACE as a new shortcut. - -- Stuart Using The Bat! v2.03 Beta/53 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Aided by BayesIt! 0.4gm PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com There isn't enough chocolate in my diet. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0 Comment: Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com; iQA/AwUBQCdiQ9ttnLhkydF1EQIKJQCgsraShoBH/T01nKro+QA6AaGYzvYAoL5R eAVyhSdFLChyIzhw+v8pDx2T =vIwr -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Read Filters
Hello Stuart, I've just tried with another - in use - shortcut and it allowed me to do that. I think that this is a bug. I've posted something in TBBETA asking if someone else could try using SPACE as a new shortcut. Yes, I've seen your message in TBBETA. Let's see. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Read Filters
Miguel, Allie Thank you both for identifying why my read filters don't work as I thought they should. I also had one of the autoread options set, and have been frustrated that filters don't work when I manually marking a message read. Now I know why! :) -- Robin Anson Using The Bat! v2.01.3 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Read Filters
Hello Peter, But somehow I can't seem to link your ALT-Fnn to the msg thread. OK, Alt+F12 opens the Shortcut Editor. And that is what I used t assign Space to mark my messages as read and Enter to move to next unread. Am I missing something ?? Maybe another beer? ;-) (after having quite a few bottles of Dommelsch?? Ya, that's a brand of beer ;), enough available for you, once you decide to move your a** to consume them ... ) One of these days I will. Right now I'm to busy answering silly questions to people who seem to have drunk too much ;) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Read Filters
Mau, [M] wrote: AFAIK, the shortcut to mark a message read is CTRL-M. M Not in my TB :) Alrighty. :) In my TB! '/' moves me to the next message. I don't have to manually mark messages read often enough to need a convenient shortcut, so I haven't reassigned that one. Anyway, back to business, I've never been able to trigger a read filter by manually marking a message read. You're fortunate. :) I just tested again and the same result obtains, i.e., messages aren't moved. -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com Using TB! v2.03 Beta/59 on WinXP Pro (SP1) pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Read Filters
Hello Allie, Anyway, back to business, I've never been able to trigger a read filter by manually marking a message read. You're fortunate. :) I just tested again and the same result obtains, i.e., messages aren't moved. I usually (99.9%) just use the message list pane and the preview pane where I read my messages. I have just tried Folder View and here I need to use Ctrl+M to mark messages as read but the Read filters still work and move messages just fine. I even tried from the MailTicker review window (or however it is called, I never MailTicker) and Ctrl+M triggers Read filters just fine. Read filters have always worked for me this way. If you recall from a couple of times I have explained my set-up, I get most of my incoming mail moved to MyInbox folder where I do read it, and Read filters are the ones that sort e-mail to appropriate folder once I have actually read it and hit Space to mark it as Read. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Read Filters
Mau, [M] wrote: M I usually (99.9%) just use the message list pane and the preview pane M where I read my messages. I have just tried Folder View and here I M need to use Ctrl+M to mark messages as read but the Read filters M still work and move messages just fine. I even tried from the M MailTicker review window (or however it is called, I never M MailTicker) and Ctrl+M triggers Read filters just fine. Interesting. Never could do that. Lucky you. :) I'd use read filters more if that worked here. -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com Using TB! v2.03 Beta/59 on WinXP Pro (SP1) pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Read Filters
Hello Allie, Interesting. Never could do that. Lucky you. :) I'd use read filters more if that worked here. Either you have something misconfigured or there is a bug and you should then report it. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Read Filters
Mau, [M] wrote: Interesting. Never could do that. Lucky you. :) I'd use read filters more if that worked here. M Either you have something misconfigured or there is a bug and you should M then report it. This has been a limitation I've lived with since I started using TB! in 1999. I never really considered it a bug since it has always been this way and I've always offered advice with this limitation in mind. I also have vivid memories of others describing the limitation and my having to tell them that it's a limitation and not their doing something wrong. What OS version are you using? How do you set up the marking of your messages as read. Do you do it only manually? Do you have auto-read flagging disabled? Also, see if your read filtering works on messages that you manually mark unread and then mark read. Perhaps it's my testing that's the problem and this is usually how I'd try to get it working by manually marking them read. -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com Using TB! v2.03 Beta/59 on WinXP Pro (SP1) pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Read Filters
Hello Allie, What OS version are you using? Win2K SP4 How do you set up the marking of your messages as read. Do you do it only manually? Do you have auto-read flagging disabled? Yes, only manually. And yes, disabled. Also, see if your read filtering works on messages that you manually mark unread and then mark read. Yes, it works. And the filters are also triggered if I mar as read from the right click context menu. It just works, period. Well, except when selecting multiple messages. Perhaps it's my testing that's the problem and this is usually how I'd try to get it working by manually marking them read. As I say, it just works here :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Read Filters
Miguel Urech, [MU] wrote: How do you set up the marking of your messages as read. Do you do it only manually? Do you have auto-read flagging disabled? MU Yes, only manually. And yes, disabled. This is it!!! :) When I disable auto-read flagging completely (i.e., disabling the two autoread flagging options), the filtering works as you describe. I've always made TB! do auto-read flagging since I never really wish to do so manually. It's so repetitive to be doing so but you must have your reasons which I respect, so no need to defend it now. :) Anyway, if you enable auto-read flagging to say 20 seconds so that you have time to manually apply the read flag, you'll see that the filtering no longer works. I didn't realize this until now. :) I'll discuss this one on TBBETA. -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com Using TB! v2.03 Beta/59 on WinXP Pro (SP1) pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Allie, MU Yes, only manually. And yes, disabled. This is it!!! :) You mean you had never tried that? Well, better late than never! :) I've always made TB! do auto-read flagging since I never really wish to do so manually. It's so repetitive to be doing so but you must have your reasons which I respect, so no need to defend it now. :) I don't want to auto-read in 2, or 20 or N seconds, but I hated having to use Ctrl+M or any other keyboard combination. That is why I configured to use Space. Anyway, if you enable auto-read flagging to say 20 seconds so that you have time to manually apply the read flag, you'll see that the filtering no longer works. Yes sir, you are right. I'll discuss this one on TBBETA. Great! Some people may be missing the good things about Read filters because of this. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Miguel Urech, [MU] wrote: MU Yes, only manually. And yes, disabled. This is it!!! :) MU You mean you had never tried that? Nope. Never had a reason to. I've had reason to prevent messages from being auto-flagged as read when being viewed in the preview window but not in a separate window. However, I've never wanted to completely disable auto-read flagging. MU Well, better late than never! :) :) Took me years to discover this hitch. I've always made TB! do auto-read flagging since I never really wish to do so manually. It's so repetitive to be doing so but you must have your reasons which I respect, so no need to defend it now. :) MU I don't want to auto-read in 2, or 20 or N seconds, but I hated having MU to use Ctrl+M or any other keyboard combination. That is why I MU configured to use Space. I'm toying with the idea of making my PowerPro shortcut not only do a ctrlaltright arrow, but to first do a ctrlm. That way, I could enjoy both worlds. -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com Using TB! v2.03 Beta/59 on WinXP Pro (SP1) pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Read Filters
Hello Allie, I'm toying with the idea of making my PowerPro shortcut not only do a ctrlaltright arrow, but to first do a ctrlm. I though about something like that but decided on Space and Enter. That is so also because, when I process web queries (all in a single folder and all unread), the Read filter I have to extract e-mail and send a subscription request to one of my newsletter also moves the message to Trash. So, I don't even have to Enter to move to next unread :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Read Filters
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I've got a READ filter that moves messages to a folder and it works fine if I mark as read single messages, but if I mark multiple messages it doesn't. Is this right or is it a bug? - -- Stuart Using The Bat! v2.03 Beta/53 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Aided by BayesIt! 0.4gm PGP Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com A plateau is a high form of flattery. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0 Comment: Key available from ldap://keyserver.pgp.com; iQA/AwUBQCOqTNttnLhkydF1EQLYRQCfaVMvs3Z/5NX31AJTYhMPDV6NU2oAn0br OB1of5fWjwujYkzUQxEPpToI =XpWj -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Read Filters
Hello shemming, I've got a READ filter that moves messages to a folder and it works fine if I mark as read single messages, but if I mark multiple messages it doesn't. Is this right or is it a bug? I use many Read filters but I always use/used them on single messages. You are right, it doesn't work if multiple messages are selected. What I don't know is if it should work that way and it can then be considered a bug. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Read Filters
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've got a READ filter that moves messages to a folder and it works fine if I mark as read single messages, but if I mark multiple messages it doesn't. Is this right or is it a bug? Normally, the filter is triggered when unread messages are automatically marked as read as you read/browse them. To mark multiple messages as read would amount to a manual action and read filters aren't triggered then. -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys - http://pgp.ac-martin.com Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Read Filters
Hello Allie, Normally, the filter is triggered when unread messages are automatically marked as read as you read/browse them. To mark multiple messages as read would amount to a manual action and read filters aren't triggered then. I mark my messages as read manually, by hitting Space when I decide I _have_ read them. That is a manual action, isn't it? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Read Filters
Mau, [M] wrote: M I mark my messages as read manually, by hitting Space when I decide I M _have_ read them. That is a manual action, isn't it? AFAIK, the shortcut to mark a message read is CTRL-M. What does hitting space do for you? Move to another message? -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com Using TB! v2.03 Beta/59 on WinXP Pro (SP1) pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Read Filters
Hello Allie, AFAIK, the shortcut to mark a message read is CTRL-M. Not in my TB :) What does hitting space do for you? Move to another message? No, Space marks as read and Enter moves to next unread. Remember what Al+F2 does? It opens the shortcut editor :-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Winamp OFF: Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Read Filters
Hello MAU, on Sat, 7 Feb 2004 01:56:32 +0100 (2004-02-07 01:56:32 in .nl) in the message with reference mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] you [] wrote (at least in part): M Remember what Al+F2 does? It opens the shortcut editor :-) I don't 'remember' what yours does, but here it does a 'Check Mail For All'. Messed up shortcuts maybe..?? -- Kind regards, Peter Ouwehand E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - - Created the above using A program which insists to be : The Bat! V2.03 Beta/59 An OS which insists to be : Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Peter, M Remember what Al+F2 does? It opens the shortcut editor :-) I don't 'remember' what yours does, but here it does a 'Check Mail For All'. Messed up shortcuts maybe..?? Oooops! I meant to type Alt+F12, Alt+F12. Sorry -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.01.3 Winamp PLAYING: Norman Brown - The Feeling I Get (Smoothjazz.com - The world's best Smooth Jazz - Live from Monterey, Calif.) Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Read Filters
Hello MAU, on Sat, 7 Feb 2004 02:59:09 +0100 (2004-02-07 02:59:09 in .nl) in the message with reference mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] you [] wrote (at least in part): Messed up shortcuts maybe..?? M Oooops! I meant to type Alt+F12, Alt+F12. Sorry Ok, so it does here. But somehow I can't seem to link your ALT-Fnn to the msg thread. Am I missing something ?? (after having quite a few bottles of Dommelsch?? Ya, that's a brand of beer ;), enough available for you, once you decide to move your a** to consume them ... ) -- Kind regards, Peter Ouwehand E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - - Created the above using A program which insists to be : The Bat! V2.03 Beta/59 An OS which insists to be : Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Read Filters
Hello bats, on Fri, 6. Feb 2004 at 17:30:57 +0100 MAU wrote: M I use many Read filters but I always use/used them on single messages. M You are right, it doesn't work if multiple messages are selected. What I M don't know is if it should work that way and it can then be considered a M bug. /me thinks, that it should work with multiple messages - of course, because it's just a manual triggered action to mark more messages and hit ctrl-M (on marked messages or a whole folder). I have no Read Messages filter yet, but I would expect this behaviour.. ergo: bug.. :) -- shinE! http://www.thequod.de ICQ#152282665 GnuPG/PGP key: http://thequod.de/danielhahler.asc Using The Bat! v2.03 Beta/53 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 with POPFile 0.20.1 and avast Jan2004 (4.1.342) Current version is 2.02.3 CE | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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I'm starting to use the read-filters and noticed that the ctrl-M shortcut doesn't trigger them (I have to open the msg in a new window to execute the filter). I think I'll add it to the bugtrack site, but before I'd like to know if I'm the only one seeing this. Maybe it's fixed the last builds (I'm still using 1.60c). Do you see the same? -- Ricardo M. Reyes | (Mar del Plata - Argentina) | Usando The Bat! 1.60c Help ... I can't find my Any key! Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Read Filters
Hello TBUDL, I haven't been using Read Filters, so I know little regarding the way they work. I intend to delete the messages sent by those who insist on using html on other lists, doing so by filtering on their email address as sender. The problem is that all messages for lists go into their own folder, and incoming filters apparently work ONLY on the inbox, not on subdirectories. I could use a read filter there, but that would work only if the message were marked read - or would it? I made a read filter that has as actions, both mark as read and delete message. It caught some but not others. The problem isn't with the incoming mail, it's with cleaning up the mail that's already filtered to their own directory, I could do this manually, but want to know more about how TB! implements read filters. The kill filters don't seem to work for me, either. Any suggestions or pointers? Douglas -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Read Filters
Hi Douglas, On Tue, 02 Jan 2001 22:58:23 -0600GMT (03/01/2001, 12:58 +0800GMT), Douglas Hinds wrote: DH Hello TBUDL, DH I intend to delete the messages sent by those who DH insist on using html on other lists, doing so by filtering on their DH email address as sender. I would use an incoming filter and delete the message (and mark it as read, otherwise you have a "new" message in the Trash folder). This filter should be executed before the list filter. DH The problem is that all messages for lists go into their own folder, DH and incoming filters apparently work ONLY on the inbox, not on DH subdirectories. They work manually on other folders than the inbox, if you focus on that folder and execute the filter. DH I could use a read filter there, but that would work only if the DH message were marked read - or would it? It kicks in when the message changes its status from "new" to "read". Some people don't use Incoming filters, so that all new messages arrive in the Inbox. When they read them, the message will be sorted into the appropriate folders. That's the idea. DH I could do this manually, but want to know more about how TB! DH implements read filters. The kill filters don't seem to work for me, DH either. If the FROM address is the poster's email address, not the list address, kill filters should work. However, since you're on dial-up, I would suggest incoming filters anyway. -- Cheers, Thomas. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.48g under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Read Filters
Hello Thomas others on TBUDL following this thread, Wednesday, January 03, 2001, you stated regarding Read Filters: TF I would use an incoming filter and delete the message (and mark it as TF read, otherwise you have a "new" message in the Trash folder). This TF filter should be executed before the list filter. DH The problem is that all messages for lists go into their own folder, DH and incoming filters apparently work ONLY on the inbox, not on DH subdirectories. TF They work manually on other folders than the inbox, if you focus on TF that folder and execute the filter. That's what I did, in the sense that I activated it by typing alt+f+f. But I did NOT check manual only, since the filer itself isn't checked manual only, just active. I I set the filter to manual only, I would HAVE to activate it via a command check manual only - or am I mistaken? (I've forgotten, as this has been covered). DH I could use a read filter there, but that would work only if the DH message were marked read - or would it? TF Some people don't use Incoming filters, so that all new messages TF arrive in the Inbox. When they read them, the message will be sorted TF into the appropriate folders. That's the idea. I used to like that, before the email volume increased to the point that much of it is never read. So the ticker doesn't help much either. I just check the new line on the inboxes and filter most things to their folders. DH I could do this manually, but want to know more about how TB! DH implements read filters. The kill filters don't seem to work for me, DH either. TF If the FROM address is the poster's email address, not the list TF address, kill filters should work. It didn't. TF However, since you're on dial-up, I TF would suggest incoming filters anyway. I may have to begin by deleting manually what has already been filtered previously. Thanks, Tom DH -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org