Re: "References" header

[Mary Bull]

Hello MFPA!

On Wednesday, January 18, 2006, 2:44 PM, you wrote:

>>> Anybody know why TB! calls the header "Follow-up" that RFC-822
>>> designates as "References"?

>> I think it was an arbitrary decision by the RitLabs team.

> Certainly odd if the RFC header name was previously used.

>> Either in the change from 1.x to 2.x or from 2.x to 3.x.

> AFAIK my firts TB!, 2.11.02, called it "Follow-up".

I've done a search, and found a message in June, 2004, where Terry G.
Munson says, 'I think "follow up" would be "references" in version
2.00.' mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

That sounds about right. I ran v. 1.62 until v. 2.06. Upgraded because
I wanted to see the newly developed Smileys feature.

Was completely confused by the change from "References" to
"Follow-Up," but finally got used to it. :)

>> I remember feeling totally bamboozled when I first encountered it.
>> Along about that time, I was just learning about mid: id references

> Another odd one that. Why does TB! need "mid:" in front of a
> message-id to recognise it is not an email address? In 40tude
> Dialog, you can click on a message-id shown in the "references"
> header of a message and you are taken to the relevant message.

Yes. And you have to be so careful when you copy it, or, at least
remember to take out the angle brackets when you place the message id
after the "mid:" :)

But, truly, I don't want any of this to get changed. They might break
something else that was vital in writing new code for these relatively
trivial idiosyncracies. :)

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Re: "References" header

[MFPA]

Hi

On Wednesday 18 January 2006 at 8:30:50 PM, in
, Mary Bull wrote:

>> Anybody know why TB! calls the header "Follow-up" that RFC-822
>> designates as "References"?

> I think it was an arbitrary decision by the RitLabs team.

Certainly odd if the RFC header name was previously used.

> Either in the change from 1.x to 2.x or from 2.x to 3.x.

AFAIK my firts TB!, 2.11.02, called it "Follow-up".

> I remember feeling totally bamboozled when I first encountered it.
> Along about that time, I was just learning about mid: id references

Another odd one that. Why does TB! need "mid:" in front of a
message-id to recognise it is not an email address? In 40tude
Dialog, you can click on a message-id shown in the "references"
header of a message and you are taken to the relevant message.

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Re: "References" header

[Mary Bull]

Hello MFPA!

On Wednesday, January 18, 2006, 2:21 PM, you wrote:

> Anybody know why TB! calls the header "Follow-up" that RFC-822
> designates as "References"?

I think it was an arbitrary decision by the RitLabs team.

Either in the change from 1.x to 2.x or from 2.x to 3.x.

I remember feeling totally bamboozled when I first encountered it.
Along about that time, I was just learning about mid: id references
from some people here at TBUDL, and the whole world of the headers was
beginning to open up to me, still pretty much of a newbie at TB! and
the Internet in general.

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"References" header

[MFPA]

Hi

Anybody know why TB! calls the header "Follow-up" that RFC-822
designates as "References"?

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Re: "References" header won't display in preview pane

[Mica Mijatovic]

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> On Monday 20 December 2004 at 1:20:49 PM, Mica Mijatovic wrote:

>>>I can view them while editing a reply.

> But only one of them in the header pane at the top of the preview
> pane?

Yes, it is just one and the last reference from "References:".

>> I don't know if it would be practical to see 20 and more references in
>> header pane. (-: I mean who needs such a feature? That is, as I
>> understand the question.

> Probably not too practical. It was, however, what I was trying to
> do.  ;-)

Impractical things are also interesting.

In the other hand, or on the other side, all is in a permanent change
and very easily impractical can become something very practical.

When my old freezer died, I used it for keeping my writings in.

Now, they are all cool. (:

There. I hope you'll succeed.

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Re: "References" header won't display in preview pane

[MFPA]

Hi

On Monday 20 December 2004 at 1:20:49 PM, Mica Mijatovic wrote:

>>I can view them while editing a reply.

But only one of them in the header pane at the top of the preview
pane?

> I don't know if it would be practical to see 20 and more references in
> header pane. (-: I mean who needs such a feature? That is, as I
> understand the question.

Probably not too practical. It was, however, what I was trying to
do.  ;-)

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Re: "References" header won't display in preview pane

[MFPA]

Hi

On Monday 20 December 2004 at 1:31:15 PM, Alexander S. Kunz wrote:

> Hello MFPA,

> Monday, December 20, 2004, 1:03:24 PM, you wrote:

>> I cannot get the "References:" header to display at the top of the
>> preview pane. It is ticked on the list at View | Message Header.
>> Viewing the RFC-822 headers shows that the message in view does
>> actually have "References:" (for example, replies in this mailing
>> list).

> That header field is called "follow up" here (the display name), and I
> can add it to the preview pane just fine.

My mistake. I find I had Display Name = "Follow up:" , RFC Name =
"References" but had at some point mis-defined an additional header
with Display Name = "References:" , RFC Name ="References:".

The second one was the one that would not display (because of the
extra colon) and I did not recognise the "Follow up:" one because
it does not display most of the content from the "References"
header in the message.

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Re: "References" header won't display in preview pane

[Mica Mijatovic]

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> Hello MFPA,

> Monday, December 20, 2004, 1:03:24 PM, you wrote:

>> I cannot get the "References:" header to display at the top of the
>> preview pane. It is ticked on the list at View | Message Header.
>> Viewing the RFC-822 headers shows that the message in view does
>> actually have "References:" (for example, replies in this mailing
>> list).

> That header field is called "follow up" here (the display name), and I
> can add it to the preview pane just fine.

Yes, but it is just one and the last reference from "References:".

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Re: "References" header won't display in preview pane

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Alexander,

On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:31:15 +0100GMT (20-12-2004, 14:31 +0100, where
I live), you wrote:

ASK> That header field is called "follow up" here (the display name), and I
ASK> can add it to the preview pane just fine.

That's odd, I tried it before my previous message to this thread and I
didn't see any references popping up in the header bar (yes, I tried
viewing a message that was an actual reply). But after reading your
message I tried it again and now I see it. Guess my eyes are buggy.

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Re: "References" header won't display in preview pane

[Alexander S. Kunz]

Hello Mica,

Monday, December 20, 2004, 2:20:49 PM, you wrote:

> I don't know if it would be practical to see 20 and more references
> in header pane. (-: I mean who needs such a feature? That is, as I
> understand the question.

"Follow-up" shows only the most recent reference here (one single entry).

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Re: "References" header won't display in preview pane

[Mica Mijatovic]

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> Hallo MFPA,

> On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 12:03:24 +GMT (20-12-2004, 13:03 +0100, where
> I live), you wrote:

M>>   I cannot get the "References:" header to display at the top of
M>>   the preview pane.

> Neither can I.
> Don't know whether it's intentional or not. I can view them while
> editing a reply.

I don't know if it would be practical to see 20 and more references in
header pane. (-: I mean who needs such a feature? That is, as I
understand the question.

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Re: "References" header won't display in preview pane

[Alexander S. Kunz]

Hello MFPA,

Monday, December 20, 2004, 1:03:24 PM, you wrote:

> I cannot get the "References:" header to display at the top of the
> preview pane. It is ticked on the list at View | Message Header.
> Viewing the RFC-822 headers shows that the message in view does
> actually have "References:" (for example, replies in this mailing
> list).

That header field is called "follow up" here (the display name), and I
can add it to the preview pane just fine.

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Re: "References" header won't display in preview pane

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo MFPA,

On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 12:03:24 +GMT (20-12-2004, 13:03 +0100, where
I live), you wrote:

M>   I cannot get the "References:" header to display at the top of
M>   the preview pane.

Neither can I.
Don't know whether it's intentional or not. I can view them while
editing a reply.

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"References" header won't display in preview pane

[MFPA]

Hi

  I cannot get the "References:" header to display at the top of
  the preview pane. It is ticked on the list at View | Message
  Header. Viewing the RFC-822 headers shows that the message in
  view does actually have "References:" (for example, replies in
  this mailing list).

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Re: v2.01 references header?

[Greg Strong]

Hello Peter,

GS>> I found it. See View | Follow up.

> k, in the Edit Mail Message window.

> In the 'normal' view message window it would be guess you meant View |
> Message Headers | Follow up: That way you can see it before replying
> ...

You are correct from the 'View folder.'  I actually meant in the Edit
Mail Message window which is View | Follow up so I can edit out a the
reference/follow up header so the message is not buried in a thread.
Apparently Ritlabs has made some changes with the newer release. I just
installed today, so I'm not sure what else is in store for me.

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Re[2]: v2.01 references header?

[Peter Ouwehand]

Hello Greg Strong,

on 2003-10-19, 02:43, you wrote (at least in part):

GS> Hello Greg,

>> What happen to the references header in v2.01?

GS> I found it. See View | Follow up.

k, in the Edit Mail Message window.

In the 'normal' view message window it would be
guess you meant View | Message Headers | Follow up:
That way you can see it before replying ...

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Re: v2.01 references header?

[Peter Ouwehand]

Hello Greg Strong,

on 2003-10-19, 02:37, you wrote (at least in part):

GS> Hello TBUDL,

GS> What happen to the references header in v2.01?

GS> Either I missed it, or it no longer is available to view and edit.
GS> Please let me know if this was my oversight, RitLabs oversight, or
GS> planned.

You mean something like:
References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I've joined on here after upgrading to V2.01 and I have seen lots of
those so far (using RFC-822 headers).

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Re: v2.01 references header?

[Greg Strong]

Hello Greg,

> What happen to the references header in v2.01?

I found it. See View | Follow up.

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v2.01 references header?

[Greg Strong]

Hello TBUDL,

What happen to the references header in v2.01?

Either I missed it, or it no longer is available to view and edit.
Please let me know if this was my oversight, RitLabs oversight, or
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Re: Get Rid of "References" Header

[Dierk Haasis]

Hello Jonathan!

On Saturday, July 27, 2002 at 4:03:35 PM you wrote:

> No such thing as anonymity in the corporate world, I have evidence that
> one of the support staff where I work, and admin the network is in
> search of a new job, but it starts to bound on the lines of unethical if
> I look, or unethical that she is doing it... so for now, I have not
> mentioned anything.  There are always plenty of log files created by one
> service or another tracking everything you're doing, even if the people
> running the service are incompetent, and don't know they're actually
> doing it.

Well, my PoV on this situation - although nobody will be really
interested: I think one should do what plain good taste an common
sense tells one, ignore such personal items. Only if you see an actual
violation of common law/rules should you interfere.

> Douglas Adams always has a funny outlook on things, I'll see if I can
> track it down, and have a read ;)

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Re: Get Rid of "References" Header

[Jonathan Angliss]

On Sat, 2002-07-27 at 01:37, Dierk Haasis wrote:
> 
> I gather the difficulty for them lies not so much in virus protection
> but the possibility to track the originators of the messages down (by
> simply clicking on the message ID).
> 
> Even if this could *always* be done (theoretically possible), it just
> means that they are afraid of their own (openly sent) messages.

Then I do believe they may be missing a very simple fact... the mail
server logs all connections attempting to send and receive mail.  If the
content was bda enough, and they wanted to track down who sent it, take
the time in the file, who it was sent to, and scan the log files... plus
there is the from fields etc ;)

> Just think of all the people that have been laid off (reportedly there
> should be a bundle) because they wrote badly about their
> bosses/company/colleagues in Usenet. It harks back to the old problem
> of how to behave in e-mails/postings. If one thinks one is "anonymous"
> one will let off the leash.

No such thing as anonymity in the corporate world, I have evidence that
one of the support staff where I work, and admin the network is in
search of a new job, but it starts to bound on the lines of unethical if
I look, or unethical that she is doing it... so for now, I have not
mentioned anything.  There are always plenty of log files created by one
service or another tracking everything you're doing, even if the people
running the service are incompetent, and don't know they're actually
doing it.

> That, BTW, is the main reason Netiquette developed, it is a more or
> less written social code to avoid violence. People seem to forget that
> electronic communication is as viable as classical written one
> (letters, articles, books). There is a nice piece about this by
> Douglas Adams, which, I think, can be found on his website
> www.douglasadams.com. The part about the difference in value people
> assign to different forms of communication is somewhere hidden in an
> article about the future of the Internet (IIRC).

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Re: Get Rid of "References" Header

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Mike,

On Fri, 26 Jul 2002 15:31:47 -0700GMT (27-7-02, 0:31 +0200GMT, where I
live), you wrote:

MD> How would I eliminate the "References" header in my mail threads?
MD> I have no desire to sort by thread and I'm getting complaints from
MD> my paranoid IT friends.

Without third party tools you can't remove them. As far as your
paranoid IT friends are concerned, point them to rfc2822, that says
the following about the references header:

3.6.4. Identification fields

   Though optional, every message SHOULD have a "Message-ID:" field.
   Furthermore, reply messages SHOULD have "In-Reply-To:" and
   "References:" fields as appropriate, as described below.

   The "Message-ID:" field contains a single unique message identifier.
   The "References:" and "In-Reply-To:" field each contain one or more
   unique message identifiers, optionally separated by CFWS.


somewhat further on it continues:


   The "In-Reply-To:" and "References:" fields are used when creating a
   reply to a message.  They hold the message identifier of the original
   message and the message identifiers of other messages (for example,
   in the case of a reply to a message which was itself a reply).  The
   "In-Reply-To:" field may be used to identify the message (or
   messages) to which the new message is a reply, while the
   "References:" field may be used to identify a "thread" of
   conversation.

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Re: Get Rid of "References" Header

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Re: Get Rid of "References" Header

[Dierk Haasis]

Hello Jonathan!

On Saturday, July 27, 2002 at 3:39:35 AM you wrote:

> If it is just them that are panicking about a harmless header, then
> they should maybe see about contacting their mail administrator to
> drop the header on the server, where it'll affect everybody.
> Unfortunately they are heavily used on this list, and in some cases,
> a lot of other lists as well.

I gather the difficulty for them lies not so much in virus protection
but the possibility to track the originators of the messages down (by
simply clicking on the message ID).

Even if this could *always* be done (theoretically possible), it just
means that they are afraid of their own (openly sent) messages.

Just think of all the people that have been laid off (reportedly there
should be a bundle) because they wrote badly about their
bosses/company/colleagues in Usenet. It harks back to the old problem
of how to behave in e-mails/postings. If one thinks one is "anonymous"
one will let off the leash.

That, BTW, is the main reason Netiquette developed, it is a more or
less written social code to avoid violence. People seem to forget that
electronic communication is as viable as classical written one
(letters, articles, books). There is a nice piece about this by
Douglas Adams, which, I think, can be found on his website
www.douglasadams.com. The part about the difference in value people
assign to different forms of communication is somewhere hidden in an
article about the future of the Internet (IIRC).




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Re: Get Rid of "References" Header

[Cricket]

On Friday, July 26, 2002 Mike Dillinger stated:

MD> Original Message: From: Jonathan Angliss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date:
MD> Friday July 26 2002 06:11PM PT

JA>> On Fri, 2002-07-26 at 17:31, Mike Dillinger wrote:
>>> 
>>> How would I eliminate the "References" header in my mail threads?  I have
>>> no desire to sort by thread and I'm getting complaints from my paranoid IT
>>> friends.

JA>> Then turn threading off (View - Threads - None)... and why (out of
JA>> curiosity) are your IT friends paranoid about a header with message IDs
JA>> in it?

MD> It already is disabled and I still get the headers.

If you are still seeing them on screen, then you probably have view
RFC822 headers turned on. Go to "View" and uncheck RFC-822 headers.

Cheers Yall
-Cricket



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Re: Get Rid of "References" Header

[Nick Andriash]

Hello Mike Dillinger,

In Reference to your Posting on Friday, July 26 2002 at 06:23 PM PDT,

> It already is disabled and I still get the headers.

Yes... you always will get the headers. For those of us that thread by
reference, you will be denying us the opportunity to thread your messages
into an existing thread... if you remove those headers, every one of your
messages will become orphaned. 

As Jonathan has eluded to, there is no inherent security risk in the
reference headers. 

-- 
Nick Andriash
Creston, B.C. Canada



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Re: Re[2]: Get Rid of "References" Header

[Jonathan Angliss]

On Fri, 2002-07-26 at 20:23, Mike Dillinger wrote:
>
> JA> Then turn threading off (View - Threads - None)... and why (out of
> JA> curiosity) are your IT friends paranoid about a header with message IDs
> JA> in it?
> 
> It already is disabled and I still get the headers.

But the emails aren't threaded ;)

> Oh they're paranoid because they claim I'm making things easier for
> Carnivore.  You know, the typical paranoid deal.  :)  I'm personally not
> losing sleep over it, but it would be nice to know how to get rid of it.

Without doing as somebody suggested, and getting a third party involved,
you cannot "turn them off".  I'd still love to know how these reference
headers are making your friends paranoid... they don't contain any
information that may be useful to viruses (message IDs don't contain the
posters full email address, TB isn't susceptible to the common viruses
such as Klez etc, so there is another possibility out the window).  If
it is just them that are panicking about a harmless header, then they
should maybe see about contacting their mail administrator to drop the
header on the server, where it'll affect everybody.  Unfortunately they
are heavily used on this list, and in some cases, a lot of other lists
as well.

-- 
Jonathan Angliss
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Re[2]: Get Rid of "References" Header

[Mike Dillinger]

Original Message: From: Jonathan Angliss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date:
Friday July 26 2002 06:11PM PT

JA> On Fri, 2002-07-26 at 17:31, Mike Dillinger wrote:
>> 
>> How would I eliminate the "References" header in my mail threads?  I have
>> no desire to sort by thread and I'm getting complaints from my paranoid IT
>> friends.

JA> Then turn threading off (View - Threads - None)... and why (out of
JA> curiosity) are your IT friends paranoid about a header with message IDs
JA> in it?

It already is disabled and I still get the headers.

Oh they're paranoid because they claim I'm making things easier for
Carnivore.  You know, the typical paranoid deal.  :)  I'm personally not
losing sleep over it, but it would be nice to know how to get rid of it.

Thanks,
-MikeD



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Re: Get Rid of "References" Header

[Jonathan Angliss]

On Fri, 2002-07-26 at 17:31, Mike Dillinger wrote:
> 
> How would I eliminate the "References" header in my mail threads?  I have
> no desire to sort by thread and I'm getting complaints from my paranoid IT
> friends.

Then turn threading off (View - Threads - None)... and why (out of
curiosity) are your IT friends paranoid about a header with message IDs
in it?

-- 
Jonathan Angliss
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Re: Get Rid of "References" Header

[Arjan de Groot]

In mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Mike Dillinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> How would I eliminate the "References" header in my mail
> threads? I have no desire to sort by thread and I'm getting
> complaints from my paranoid IT friends.



I don't believe it!




Arjan ( Please read the currect threads on "X-Ray"!
)
-- 
6.232 Frege says that the two expressions have the same meaning
but different senses. But the essential point about an equation
is that it is not necessary in order to show that the two
expressions connected by the sign of equality have the same
meaning, since this can be seen from the two expressions
themselves.




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