Re[2]: Setting up AVG anti virus with TB?

2006-09-17 Thread Ben Allen
Howdy Mica,

Saturday, September 16, 2006, 11:31:40 PM, Mica wrotened:


Mica Full name of the program is Avira AntiVir PersonalEdition Classic.

Mica Direct link for download is:
Mica http://dl7.avgate.net/down/windows/antivir_workstation_win7_en_h.exe

Mica Happy anti virusing.

That  interesting. Might be worth a look. As I do get a little annoyed
with  avg  and  something that it runs in the background that eats the
processor. Not as bad as windows defender does yet.



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Re: Setting up AVG anti virus with TB?

2006-09-16 Thread MFPA

Hi

On Sunday 10 September 2006 at 8:55:49 PM, in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Susanne wrote:

 Do I have to go back to NAV?

Entirely up to you.
Never used NAV but heard plenty bad stories about it.
Could not get on with AVG but my sister loves it.
Nod32 came highly recommended, requires no plugin, works well for
me (although its scanning slows the system noticeably).

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Re: Setting up AVG anti virus with TB?

2006-09-16 Thread Mica Mijatovic
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 On Sunday 10 September 2006 at 8:55:49 PM, in
 mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Susanne wrote:

 Do I have to go back to NAV?

 Entirely up to you.
 Never used NAV but heard plenty bad stories about it.
 Could not get on with AVG but my sister loves it.
 Nod32 came highly recommended, requires no plugin, works well for
 me (although its scanning slows the system noticeably).

And while I am still in the mood to give some help around...

AntiVir doesn't need any plug-in too (so you don't have to bother
yourself with it, and related problems), for it will check all and
everything dealing in any way with the machine (http, ftp, mail,
`ordinary' files and so off).

It is free (like in `free beer') for personal use.

It is (now) faster than NOD32, and slows nothing down.

If a `bad' mail is trying to enter, AntiVir will block this particular
message (no entire message base will be blocked) and will ask you what
to do with it. When it is solved it will allow further download of the
mail.

Internet update is very fast.

You just have to download new whole version every 5 or six months, since
this is the period of time the (free) licence is valid. The file is
about 12 MB.

It is very easy for handling, easier than AVG and many other AV
programs.

Once you set it up, you forget it. Silent and dangerous.

Very good for beginners, but for much more experienced ones too.

The home page is... I can't recall and there anyway is nothing special
on it.

Full name of the program is Avira AntiVir PersonalEdition Classic.

Direct link for download is:
http://dl7.avgate.net/down/windows/antivir_workstation_win7_en_h.exe

It has a nice red umbrella, that can be open and closed, squatting on
the system's tray. (I'd prefer a dark yellow, but whatever...)

Happy anti virusing.

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Re: Setting up AVG anti virus with TB?

2006-09-11 Thread Mary Bull
Hello William and Susanne and whoever else is taking an interest in
this thread!

On Monday, September 11, 2006, 12:53 AM, you wrote:

 Slightly  OT  but as soon as I opened your message NOD32 displayed its
 always-reassuring  signature  update dialogue. Maybe there's a message
 there for you ;-)

As a satisfied NOD32 user, I second the message. It's well worth the
money.

Small footprint, easy to set up, updates automatically and often
enough to be reassuring.

S Do I have to go back to NAV?

 As someone else said here recently, Blasphemy!

Amen. It's bloated and unreliable, IMO.

P.S. I don't think that discussing anti-virus programs and software
firewall programs with which to back up The Bat!'s inherent security
is all that far Off Topic. Not everyone is subscribed to TBOT. And
TBOT is quite erratic about timely posting of messages. Erratic daily,
that is.

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Re[2]: Setting up AVG anti virus with TB?

2006-09-11 Thread Ben Allen
Howdy Susanne,

Monday, September 11, 2006, 2:47:28 AM, Susanne wrotened:

 Is  the  plugin  enabled and ready to go? Is email scanning enabled in
 the control Centre?

Susanne Yes to both, but I can detect no obvious sign of the email getting
Susanne scanned (I'm new to the program, so I'm not sure if there is
Susanne anything showing the email is being scanned).

Susanne If I receive an email with a virus attached, should AVG give
Susanne a warning message right then, or does it just get thrown
Susanne into the quarantine folder without further notice?

Mine  creates  a folder if there isnt one for the account and puts the
message in there.

You  could  always  check  it  by using one of those fake virus's... I
forget what they are called and where to get them...



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Re: Setting up AVG anti virus with TB?

2006-09-11 Thread Robin Anson
On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 at 18:47:28 -0700, Susanne wrote:
 Yes to both, but I can detect no obvious sign of the email getting
 scanned (I'm new to the program, so I'm not sure if there is
 anything showing the email is being scanned).

Under e-mail scanner select configure and tell it to certify the
incoming mail. Then it will leave a message on the incoming mail once
it has been scanned


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Re[3]: Setting up AVG anti virus with TB?

2006-09-11 Thread Code 2
 Is  the  plugin  enabled and ready to go? Is email scanning
 enabled in the control Centre?


Susanne Yes to both, but I can detect no obvious sign of the email getting
Susanne scanned (I'm new to the program, so I'm not sure if there is
Susanne anything showing the email is being scanned).

Susanne If I receive an email with a virus attached, should AVG give
Susanne a warning message right then, or does it just get thrown
Susanne into the quarantine folder without further notice?


BA Mine  creates  a folder if there isnt one for the account and puts the
BA message in there.

BA You  could  always  check  it  by using one of those fake virus's... I
BA forget what they are called and where to get them...


The test file is called EICAR and it can be downloaded from one of
several websites.

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Re[2]: Setting up AVG anti virus with TB?

2006-09-11 Thread Jim Kyle
On Monday, September 11, 2006, at 7:31:14 AM, Robin Anson wrote:

 Under e-mail scanner select configure and tell it to certify the
 incoming mail. Then it will leave a message on the incoming mail once
 it has been scanned

Interesting. My plug-in has both incoming and outgoing certification
checked, but I'm not seeing any certification on the messages from this
list. Before I got the plug-in working, I had AVG Free running from outside
of TB! and then every incoming message had a part.txt containing the
certification. Now, nada. And the Virus Vault is still empty, as it has
been ever since I switched from Eudora to TB!

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Setting up AVG anti virus with TB?

2006-09-10 Thread Susanne
Hi,

I'm trying out the free AVG version and have some trouble
getting it to scan TB email.

The plug-in is there, but during today's complete scan AVG
found a TB mail with the netsky virus that it didn't detect
when I downloaded the email.
It also didn't remove the virus after the complete scan.

Do I have to go back to NAV?

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Re: Setting up AVG anti virus with TB?

2006-09-10 Thread jim
On Sunday, September 10, 2006, at 2:55:49 PM, Susanne wrote:

 I'm trying out the free AVG version and have some trouble
 getting it to scan TB email.

Since switching from Eudora to TB! a couple of months ago, my AVG Email
scan has never once found anything in the incoming mail. When I was
using Eudora (on a different machine, with AVG Pro) I was getting
several copies of Netsky each week. However a detailed scan of my mail
folder doesn't show anything has gotten through, so it may be that I'm
just being lucky.

Meanwhile I'm seriously considering switching this machine from AVG
Free to Avast, which I'm using on my XP systems and which seems to be
working quite well...

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Re: Setting up AVG anti virus with TB?

2006-09-10 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Susanne  everyone else,

on 10-Sep-2006 at 21:55 you (Susanne) wrote:

 The plug-in is there, but during today's complete scan AVG found a TB
 mail with the netsky virus that it didn't detect when I downloaded the
 email.

Which simply means that the virus code is sitting somewhere in one of
TBs messagebase files - in a form that is NOT executable and can't do
ANY harm until you decide to manually save the virus code to disk - at
this very moment the normal filesystem realtime protection kicks in and
quarantines the file. You don't get a chance to execute the virus code.

 It also didn't remove the virus after the complete scan.

You would have to delete the infected message from the TB messagebase
file that contains it. But again - it can't do any harm there!

 Do I have to go back to NAV?

No way. Viruses are a threat, but NAV is the plague!

Rest assured that you don't need an extra virus scanner
module/plugin/whatever for emails - as long as you have A: a brain that
hinders you from saving malicious attachments to disk (and you do have a
brain, or else you wouldn't use TB!) - as long as the virus code is in
the TB messagebase, it is NOT a threat - and B: a working filesystem
realtime protection - just in case A ever fails - with up-to-date virus
signatures.

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Re: Setting up AVG anti virus with TB?

2006-09-10 Thread Ben Allen
Howdy Susanne,

Sunday, September 10, 2006, 8:55:49 PM, Susanne wrotened:

Susanne I'm trying out the free AVG version and have some trouble
Susanne getting it to scan TB email.

Susanne The plug-in is there, but during today's complete scan AVG
Susanne found a TB mail with the netsky virus that it didn't detect
Susanne when I downloaded the email.
Susanne It also didn't remove the virus after the complete scan.

Susanne Do I have to go back to NAV?

Is  the  plugin  enabled and ready to go? Is email scanning enabled in
the control Centre?

Mine  works  fine  (he said looking at all his lovely shiny quarentine
folders).

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Re: Setting up AVG anti virus with TB?

2006-09-10 Thread Chris W .

Susanne @ 2006-9-10 2:55:49 PM
Setting up AVG anti virus with TB? mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 The plug-in is there, but during today's complete scan AVG found a
 TB mail with the netsky virus that it didn't detect when I
 downloaded the email. It also didn't remove the virus after the
 complete scan.

Perhaps the message was downloaded before you installed AVG. You can
have AVG check all of your message.
  Folder - Check for Viruses

Enjoy!

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Re: Setting up AVG anti virus with TB?

2006-09-10 Thread Susanne
 

Hi,

Sunday, September 10, 2006, 1:58:04 PM,[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is  the  plugin  enabled and ready to go? Is email scanning enabled in
 the control Centre?

Yes to both, but I can detect no obvious sign of the email getting
scanned (I'm new to the program, so I'm not sure if there is
anything showing the email is being scanned).

If I receive an email with a virus attached, should AVG give
a warning message right then, or does it just get thrown
into the quarantine folder without further notice?

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Re: Setting up AVG anti virus with TB?

2006-09-10 Thread The Janitor
11 September 2006 - 06:48

Hello Susanne,

Sunday, September 10, 2006, 8:55:49 PM, you wrote:

S I'm trying out the free AVG version and have some trouble
S getting it to scan TB email.

Slightly  OT  but as soon as I opened your message NOD32 displayed its
always-reassuring  signature  update dialogue. Maybe there's a message
there for you ;-)

S Do I have to go back to NAV?

As someone else said here recently, Blasphemy!

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Re[2]: AVG Anti-Virus and TB!

2002-06-05 Thread Mark Wieder

Allie  William-

Thanks. I've now got NOD32 installed and happily running on my Win2k
server. I expect to give it a dry run this weekend (unless I receive
any more email viruses before that time).

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Re: AVG Anti-Virus and TB!

2002-06-04 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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@04 June 2002, 21:11:57 -0500 (03:11 UK time) Allie C Martin wrote in
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MDP Nope. With the plug in, TB throws an alert on arrival and puts the
MDP whole message in a TB Quarantine folder. V. good it is too!

 Where's the quarantine folder put? In the installation directory?

No - in the account folder tree (and the equivalent messages.tbb in
the home directory $QRNTN$ sub-folder). I meant TB folder, not OS
folder. The virus is kept internal to the TB system.

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Re: AVG Anti-Virus and TB!

2002-06-04 Thread Allie C Martin

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MDP No - in the account folder tree (and the equivalent messages.tbb
MDP in the home directory $QRNTN$ sub-folder). I meant TB folder, not
MDP OS folder. The virus is kept internal to the TB system.

I assume that this method is common to all the plug-ins?

Can these plug-ins strip messages of the offending attachments (remove
the infected part option?)?
There's very little documentation of what they do and how they do it.
If the plugin will strip infected attachments and notify me of this,
then it's worthwhile using the plug-in.

Since resubscribing to a list where many of the participants tend to
send viruses to the list, I decided that it would be a nice forum to
try the NOD32 plugin. When downloading mail from the list, I see the
NOD32 window flicker into view as the plugin is working, something I
didn't see before. Is it because the list messages contain a lot of
attachments (which it does, a lot more than the other lists I
subscribe to), or is it because viruses are being detected? I don't
see a quarantine folder like the one you described. I don't see any
notification messages in the outbox, or are notification message
copies not left in the outbox.

I hope the unusual flickering activity is from checking numerous
attachments.

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Re: AVG Anti-Virus and TB!

2002-06-04 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Allie,

@04 June 2002, 05:11:23 -0500 (11:11 UK time) Allie C Martin wrote in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

MDP No - in the account folder tree (and the equivalent messages.tbb
MDP in the home directory $QRNTN$ sub-folder). I meant TB folder, not
MDP OS folder. The virus is kept internal to the TB system.

 I assume that this method is common to all the plug-ins?

I think it is.

 Can these plug-ins strip messages of the offending attachments
 (remove the infected part option?)?

I don't think so. Then again, I can't understand the prompts in the
plug-in which are in Chzeck for the AVG version.

 There's very little documentation of what they do and how they do
 it. If the plugin will strip infected attachments and notify me of
 this, then it's worthwhile using the plug-in.

They don't strip the attachments but they move the whole message into
a quarantine folder - clearly marked and there's no chance of
accidental execution. You can have it set to remove and purge in 0
days. I'd rather not have attachments auto-stripped. I've seen the
dangers of false positives at first hand and there has to be a way to
get back.

The plug-ins certainly do notify though. No problem with that. I think
it's worthwhile using the plug-in because the virus never has to
actually exist as an external file on your hard drive (I always keep
attachments in-line and *not* in an external folder. Much safer and
easier to handle).

 ... I don't see a quarantine folder like the one you described. I
 don't see any notification messages in the outbox, or are
 notification message copies not left in the outbox.

 I hope the unusual flickering activity is from checking numerous
 attachments.

It is the latter, I guess. I don't see such activity from AVG. If any
infections are found, you'll get an alert message box come up and
the infected message gets moved to the Quarantine folder. The folder
isn't even created until a virus is found.

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Re: AVG Anti-Virus and TB!

2002-06-04 Thread Allie C Martin

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H You can mail the eicar test virus to yourself if you want to test
H if the plugin works.

Thanks for that.

I'm using the NOD32 plug-in which works nicely. It can strip the
e-mail of the infected attachment which is good and send the
orginator, a message. It doesn't leave a copy of the message in the
outbox though so unless you test it on a message to yourself, you will
not realize that the message was sent.

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Re: AVG Anti-Virus and TB!

2002-06-04 Thread Allie C Martin

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In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
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...
 I assume that this method is common to all the plug-ins?

MDP I think it is.

As you may have seen by now in my other message, indeed it is.

MDP They don't strip the attachments but they move the whole message
MDP into a quarantine folder - clearly marked and there's no chance
MDP of accidental execution.

The NOD32 plugin will strip attachments as well. It leaves another
attachment in place called 'removed by virus checker'.

MDP You can have it set to remove and purge in 0 days. I'd rather not
MDP have attachments auto-stripped. I've seen the dangers of false
MDP positives at first hand and there has to be a way to get back.

I agree.

MDP The plug-ins certainly do notify though. No problem with that. I
MDP think it's worthwhile using the plug-in because the virus never
MDP has to actually exist as an external file on your hard drive (I
MDP always keep attachments in-line and *not* in an external folder.
MDP Much safer and easier to handle).

What appeals to me is how more nicely the infected message is handled.
I can still view it with TB! even though the attachment has been
stripped or it has been quarantined.

MDP It is the latter, I guess. I don't see such activity from AVG. If
MDP any infections are found, you'll get an alert message box come
MDP up and the infected message gets moved to the Quarantine folder.
MDP The folder isn't even created until a virus is found.

I get no message alert box here. :-(

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Re: AVG Anti-Virus and TB!

2002-06-04 Thread Clive Taylor

04 June 2002, 11:22, you wrote:

ACM I'm using the NOD32 plug-in which works nicely.

Where did you find the plug-in, Allie or are you talking about the
POP3 scanner that comes as part of NOD?

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Re: AVG Anti-Virus and TB!

2002-06-04 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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@04 June 2002, 13:43:09 +0100 Clive Taylor wrote in
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ACM I'm using the NOD32 plug-in which works nicely.

 Where did you find the plug-in, Allie or are you talking about the
 POP3 scanner that comes as part of NOD?

AVG: http://www.thebat.ipex.cz/stazeni/beta/avgbatb7.zip
Dr Web: http://www.dials.ru/english/inf/thebat.htm

And these:

ftp://www.ritlabs.com/pub/the_bat/bav/SophosNT.BAV
ftp://www.ritlabs.com/pub/the_bat/bav/Sophos95.BAV
ftp://www.ritlabs.com/pub/the_bat/bav/Panda.BAV
ftp://www.ritlabs.com/pub/the_bat/bav/Nod32.BAV   
ftp://www.ritlabs.com/pub/the_bat/bav/BitDefSt.BAV
ftp://www.ritlabs.com/pub/the_bat/bav/AntiVirNT.BAV
ftp://www.ritlabs.com/pub/the_bat/bav/AntiVir95.BAV

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Re[2]: AVG Anti-Virus and TB!

2002-06-04 Thread Oleg Titov

Hello Haico,

   give a try to

   http://www.aleph-tec.com/eicar/

   regards,

   oleg
   
Tuesday, June 4, 2002, 1:10:35 AM, you wrote:

H On 4-6-2002 at 0:47, Rick Reumann wrote:

H Hai Rick,

  Question about this... do you actually have to click on a virus
  attachment and attempt to open it before AVG will catch that it
  is a virus? I know a while back I was sent a virus but AVG didn't
  say anything. Of course it might not have recognized it but I
  think it was a common one. Regardless, maybe AVG operates only
  after I would have tried to click on the attachment? Of course I
  didn't want to test to find out.

H You can mail the eicar test virus to yourself if you want to test if the
H plugin works.

H http://www.rexswain.com/eicar.html
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Re: AVG Anti-Virus and TB!

2002-06-04 Thread Clive Taylor

04 June 2002, 13:43, you wrote:

CT Where did you find the plug-in, Allie

Don't bother responding, Allie, I've found the info in another thread
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Re[2]: AVG Anti-Virus and TB!

2002-06-04 Thread Mark Wieder

Marck-

Hmmm...there's no documentation with any of the plugins on the ftp
site. I now know what the Nod32 plugin is. What's the difference in
the others? I take it they work with different AV products?

Tuesday, June 4, 2002, 5:49:25 AM, you wrote:

MDP And these:

MDP ftp://www.ritlabs.com/pub/the_bat/bav/SophosNT.BAV
MDP ftp://www.ritlabs.com/pub/the_bat/bav/Sophos95.BAV
MDP ftp://www.ritlabs.com/pub/the_bat/bav/Panda.BAV
MDP ftp://www.ritlabs.com/pub/the_bat/bav/Nod32.BAV   
MDP ftp://www.ritlabs.com/pub/the_bat/bav/BitDefSt.BAV
MDP ftp://www.ritlabs.com/pub/the_bat/bav/AntiVirNT.BAV
MDP ftp://www.ritlabs.com/pub/the_bat/bav/AntiVir95.BAV

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Re: AVG Anti-Virus and TB!

2002-06-04 Thread Haico

On 4-6-2002 at 17:51, Oleg Titov wrote:

Hai Oleg,

give a try to

http://www.aleph-tec.com/eicar/

That's better. :)

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Re[2]: AVG Anti-Virus and TB!

2002-06-04 Thread Mark Wieder

MDP You just use the Add function in the Virus Protection UI and some
MDP common sense I think.

...I hate that part. All that thinking hurts my brain...

Er...so do I need to download them all and install them to see what
BAV works with what AV product?

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Re: AVG Anti-Virus and TB!

2002-06-04 Thread Allie C Martin

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MW Er...so do I need to download them all and install them to see what
MW BAV works with what AV product?

SophosNT.BAV   Works with Sophos Antivirus for NT
Sophos95.BAV   Works with Sophos Antivirus for 95
Panda.BAV  Works with Panda Antivirus
Nod32.BAV  Works with NOD32 Antivirus

etc. etc. :-) IOW's, if the name of the plugin doesn't in anyway look
like your antivirus software name then it's not for it.

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Re[2]: AVG Anti-Virus and TB!

2002-06-04 Thread Mark Wieder

Allie-

Thanks. I hadn't heard of some of these AV programs before, hence the
confusion. I'll check 'em out. In the interest of saving some time
(aka laziness) would you know if any of these work on servers? That's
one of the drawbacks of AVG (and McAfee and Norton, etc).

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Re: AVG Anti-Virus and TB!

2002-06-04 Thread William Moore


Hello Mark

Thank you for your email dated Tuesday, June 4, 2002, 9:54:39 PM, in which you wrote:

MW (aka laziness) would you know if any of these work on servers?

NOD32 does - http://www.nod32.com/products/products.htm

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Re: AVG Anti-Virus and TB!

2002-06-04 Thread Allie C Martin

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MW Thanks. I hadn't heard of some of these AV programs before, hence
MW the confusion. I'll check 'em out. In the interest of saving some
MW time (aka laziness) would you know if any of these work on
MW servers? That's one of the drawbacks of AVG (and McAfee and
MW Norton, etc).

As William said, NOD32. I can't really speak for the others but NOD32
does have server and network friendly options/features.

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Re: AVG Anti-Virus and TB!

2002-06-04 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Mark,

@04 June 2002, 11:15:19 -0700 (19:15 UK time) Mark Wieder wrote in
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 Hmmm...there's no documentation with any of the plugins on the ftp
 site.

You just use the Add function in the Virus Protection UI and some
common sense I think.

 I now know what the Nod32 plugin is. What's the difference in
 the others? I take it they work with different AV products?

They do.

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AVG Anti-Virus and TB!

2002-06-03 Thread Ben Kennish

Hi all,

Is there a way I can get TB to work with AVG Anti-Virus?
(www.grisoft.com)

Surely it should be possible to extract attached files to a temp
directory and then run my anti virus program on them (command line)?

TIA,

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Re: AVG Anti-Virus and TB!

2002-06-03 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Ben,

@03 June 2002, 10:00:28 +0100 Ben Kennish wrote in
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 Is there a way I can get TB to work with AVG Anti-Virus?
 (www.grisoft.com)

 Surely it should be possible to extract attached files to a temp
 directory and then run my anti virus program on them (command line)?

You don't need to!

Download this:
http://www.thebat.ipex.cz/stazeni/beta/avgbatb7.zip and unzip the
contents into your TB executable folder (C:\Program Files\The Bat!).
Then configure the plug-in through the menu Options | Virus
protection. It works like a dream!!!

No need to externalise any attachments.

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Re: AVG Anti-Virus and TB!

2002-06-03 Thread Private Caravans - Rockley Park

Dear Marck,

That AVG Virus Protection is a cool Plug-In.  I added it too.

Are there any other cool plugins that I have missed out on ?

Kind Regards,

Giles

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@03 June 2002, 10:00:28 +0100 Ben Kennish wrote in
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 Is there a way I can get TB to work with AVG Anti-Virus?
 (www.grisoft.com)

 Surely it should be possible to extract attached files to a temp
 directory and then run my anti virus program on them (command line)?

You don't need to!

Download this:
http://www.thebat.ipex.cz/stazeni/beta/avgbatb7.zip and unzip the
contents into your TB executable folder (C:\Program Files\The Bat!).
Then configure the plug-in through the menu Options | Virus
protection. It works like a dream!!!

No need to externalise any attachments.

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Re: AVG Anti-Virus and TB!

2002-06-03 Thread Ray Dawson

In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
   Marck D Pearlstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Surely it should be possible to extract attached files to a temp
  directory and then run my anti virus program on them (command line)?

 You don't need to!

 Download this:
 http://www.thebat.ipex.cz/stazeni/beta/avgbatb7.zip and unzip the
 contents into your TB executable folder (C:\Program Files\The Bat!).
 Then configure the plug-in through the menu Options | Virus
 protection. It works like a dream!!!

 No need to externalise any attachments.

Similar subject, but different anti-virus software ...

I use Autoroute with TB so that I can send all emails at the same time
with any ISP login. Works very well.

I have Norton 2002 anti-virus and for each message sent, it checks it
leaving TB. It then checks it again as it leaves Autoroute.

Not a problem really, but if I could disable the checking of one of them
it would save a bit of time.

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Re[2]: AVG Anti-Virus and TB!

2002-06-03 Thread Rick Reumann

On Monday, June 3, 2002, 5:11:22 AM, Marck wrote:


MDP Download this:
MDP http://www.thebat.ipex.cz/stazeni/beta/avgbatb7.zip and unzip the
MDP contents into your TB executable folder (C:\Program Files\The Bat!).
MDP Then configure the plug-in through the menu Options | Virus
MDP protection. It works like a dream!!!

 Question about this... do you actually have to click on a virus
 attachment and attempt to open it before AVG will catch that it
 is a virus? I know a while back I was sent a virus but AVG didn't
 say anything. Of course it might not have recognized it but I
 think it was a common one. Regardless, maybe AVG operates only
 after I would have tried to click on the attachment? Of course I
 didn't want to test to find out. How is AVG supposed to work with
 this plugin.. is it supposed to notify you have a virus sitting
 there or does it wait for you to try to execute it?

 Thanks,

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Re: AVG Anti-Virus and TB!

2002-06-03 Thread Marck D Pearlstone

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Hi Rick,

@03 June 2002, 18:47:46 -0400 (23:47 UK time) Rick Reumann wrote in
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  Question about this... do you actually have to click on a virus
  attachment and attempt to open it before AVG will catch that it
  is a virus?

Nope. With the plug in, TB throws an alert on arrival and puts the
whole message in a TB Quarantine folder. V. good it is too!

 I know a while back I was sent a virus but AVG didn't say anything.
 Of course it might not have recognized it but I think it was a
 common one. Regardless, maybe AVG operates only after I would have
 tried to click on the attachment? Of course I didn't want to test to
 find out. How is AVG supposed to work with this plugin.. is it
 supposed to notify you have a virus sitting there or does it wait
 for you to try to execute it?

You have to configure the AVG plug-in through the Options | Virus
protection dialogs. Without that it's not operational!

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Re: AVG Anti-Virus and TB!

2002-06-03 Thread Allie C Martin

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MDP Nope. With the plug in, TB throws an alert on arrival and puts the
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Where's the quarantine folder put? In the installation directory?

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Re: AVG Anti-Virus and TB!

2002-06-03 Thread Haico

On 4-6-2002 at 0:47, Rick Reumann wrote:

Hai Rick,

  Question about this... do you actually have to click on a virus
  attachment and attempt to open it before AVG will catch that it
  is a virus? I know a while back I was sent a virus but AVG didn't
  say anything. Of course it might not have recognized it but I
  think it was a common one. Regardless, maybe AVG operates only
  after I would have tried to click on the attachment? Of course I
  didn't want to test to find out.

You can mail the eicar test virus to yourself if you want to test if the
plugin works.

http://www.rexswain.com/eicar.html

Greetings,
Haico



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Re: Virus in TB!

2001-05-24 Thread Thomas

Hi ztrader,

On Wed, 23 May 2001 20:16:46 -0700GMT (24/05/2001, 11:16 +0800GMT),
ztrader wrote:

BS Norton can identify it but can't do anything to clean this problem
BS out.

z Other posts explain what is happening - I will not repeat them, but -

Me neither, as they are perfectly correct. I just answered the same
question on the German list, albeit in more detail.

z Be careful. On my setup, NOrton SAYS it has deleted/cleaned the file,
z but if I then examine the file, the virus is STILL there.

I use PC-Cillin, and it quarantines the file. So you cannot run it
accidentally.

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Virus in TB!

2001-05-23 Thread Byron Steckel

Hello TBTECH,

I am currently suffering from a virus that is embedded somewhere in my
accounts on TB! When I start TB! Norton Antivirus gives me a warning
about a virus in file: C:\Windows\TEMP\bat2121.tmp and it is infected
by VBS.LoveLetter.Variant.

The temp file bat # is different everytime. I don't know what this is.
I can delete or quarantine the file with Norton, but it keeps coming
back to my temp folder every time I start TB! with a new file name
...\bat3421.tmp. It also keeps coming back every 10 minutes or so
as long as TB! is open.

Norton can identify it but can't do anything to clean this problem
out. Other virus programs don't recognize it.

  I'm using The Bat! Version 1.52
  under Windows 98 4.10 Build   A

Regards,
  Byron Steckel

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Re: Virus in TB!

2001-05-23 Thread John Seymour

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Hello Byron,

Wednesday, May 23, 2001, 5:49:34 PM, you wrote:

BS Norton can identify it but can't do anything to clean this problem
BS out. Other virus programs don't recognize it.

Do you auto check mail every 10 minutes? Try dispatch mail on server.
TB was probably prevented from completing the download and it may
still be on the server.

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Re: Virus in TB!

2001-05-23 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone

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Hi John,

On 24 May 2001 at  21:53:29 -0400(which was 02:53 where I live) John
Seymour wrote to Byron Steckel and made these points:

BS Norton can identify it but can't do anything to clean this problem
BS out. Other virus programs don't recognize it.

JS Do you auto check mail every 10 minutes? Try dispatch mail on server.
JS TB was probably prevented from completing the download and it may
JS still be on the server.

I have to agree with this view. The tmp files are created when TB
downloads new mail. If NAV is preventing TB from creating the message,
TB will keep re-trying the failed download. You're safe anyway - TB
won't let you damage yourself with such a virus anyway. NAV is being
more than a touch Draconian here.

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Re: Virus in TB!

2001-05-23 Thread ztrader

On Wednesday, May 23, 2001, 2:49:34 PM, Byron Steckel wrote:

BS Norton can identify it but can't do anything to clean this problem
BS out.

Other posts explain what is happening - I will not repeat them, but -

Be careful. On my setup, NOrton SAYS it has deleted/cleaned the file,
but if I then examine the file, the virus is STILL there. I have been
deleting them manually to make sure they're gone, so they will not be
detected on the next virus scan.

ztrader

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Re: Email Virus' and TB!

2000-05-06 Thread tracer

Hello Douglas Hinds,
On Fri, 05 May 2000 15:26:48 -0600 GMT your local time,
which was Saturday, May 06, 2000, 4:26:48 AM (GMT+0700) my local time,
Douglas Hinds wrote:


.

 I'll soon know. The not so good (I'm told) anti-virus installed
 shows nothing on any of the 10 partitions, but I forgot to set it
 for all files. Maybe I should install the better one already.

 Douglas

Douglas, i will answer this offline.
Installing and checking all files will run your already slow machine
like a snail.
I will send you full info to get the scripting knocked out
permanently.



Best regards,
 
tracer


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Re: Email Virus' and TB!

2000-05-06 Thread Tom Plunket


W You  are  better  off  keeping  your antivirus sw up to date and never
W opening  suspicious  files...especially  ones with the .VBS extension.
W Unless  you  are  in the programming field, it is most unlikely anyone
W would send you a .VBS file unless it was malicious code.

Yes, I post this again to remind everyone that what VBS actually
stands for is "Virus Broadcast System."  ;)



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Email Virus' and TB!

2000-05-05 Thread Douglas Hinds


Hello  fellow The Bat User Discussion List members,

A attachment containing the ILOVEYOU virus was received and deleted
without double clicking on it, although HTML Autoview had been set
so TB opened in that way first. Searching on the files it sets in
C:\ showed nothing.

I made Kill Filters for all active accounts, which act on detecting
the signal string ILOVEYOU (without the ) in the subject of any
message. I also turned off "HTML Autoview" from the "View" menu of
all accounts.

Any opinions about that being an adequate solution? Thanks in
advance.

I did not put ILOVEYOU in the subject of this post, since any answer
containing it will presumably be killed.

Best regards,

Douglas  

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Re: Email Virus' and TB!

2000-05-05 Thread Woofie

Howdy Douglas,

Friday, May 05, 2000, 10:31:10 PM, you wrote:


DH Hello  fellow The Bat User Discussion List members,

DH A attachment containing the ILOVEYOU virus was received and deleted
DH without double clicking on it, although HTML Autoview had been set
DH so TB opened in that way first. Searching on the files it sets in
DH C:\ showed nothing.

DH I made Kill Filters for all active accounts, which act on detecting
DH the signal string ILOVEYOU (without the ) in the subject of any
DH message. I also turned off "HTML Autoview" from the "View" menu of
DH all accounts.

DH Any opinions about that being an adequate solution? Thanks in
DH advance.

No..because  it  only  needs to change its name and your check will no
longer work...and in fact, that is exactly what it HAS done (or rather
someone  has  done  it  for  it) and there are now 3 versions (at last
count) of the letters with the attachment and in each case the subject
and message has changed and the name of the VBS file has been changed.

You  are  better  off  keeping  your antivirus sw up to date and never
opening  suspicious  files...especially  ones with the .VBS extension.
Unless  you  are  in the programming field, it is most unlikely anyone
would send you a .VBS file unless it was malicious code.



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Re[2]: Email Virus' and TB!

2000-05-05 Thread Douglas Hinds


Hola Woofie  other fellow The Bat User Discussion List members,

Friday, May 05, 2000, 7:49:23 AM, you wrote regarding the ILOVEYOU
virus that I received and deleted without double clicking on it,
after HTML Autoview opened it (maybe it wasn't the attachment)
first.

DH I made Kill Filters ... on the string ILOVEYOU .. in the
DH subject [and] turned off "HTML Autoview". [Is that] an adequate
DH solution?

W No...there are now 3 versions (at last count) of the letters with
W the attachment and in each case the subject and message has
W changed and the name of the VBS file has been changed.

W You  are  better  off  keeping  your antivirus sw up to date and never
W opening  suspicious  files...especially  ones with the .VBS extension.
W Unless  you  are  in the programming field, it is most unlikely anyone
W would send you a .VBS file unless it was malicious code.

As I matter of fact, I show NO *.vbs file on c:\. BUT - I just found
LOVE-LETTER-FOR-YOU.TXT.vbs in my TB attach directory on D:\ and
deleted it twice. That leaves 6 .vbs files in E:\ (the same 3 in two
places, all Digital.vbs, except that the other two are numbered
(i.e. Digital2.vbs). These look like they're part of OS/2. They're
all 0kb and from '95 and '96.

However, some strange things are happening when I download mail. I
am getting asked for my password repeatedly, and I am getting "Bad
Login" and "Connection to host broken" messages. But maybe the
problem is on the server - or with the phone line.

I'll soon know. The not so good (I'm told) anti-virus installed
shows nothing on any of the 10 partitions, but I forgot to set it
for all files. Maybe I should install the better one already.

Douglas

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Re: Email Virus' and TB!

2000-05-05 Thread tracer

Hello Woofie,
On Fri, 5 May 2000 21:49:23 +0800 GMT your local time,
which was Friday, May 05, 2000, 8:49:23 PM (GMT+0700) my local time,
Woofie wrote:


 Howdy Douglas,

 Friday, May 05, 2000, 10:31:10 PM, you wrote:


DH Any opinions about that being an adequate solution? Thanks in
DH advance.

 No..because  it  only  needs to change its name and your check will no
 longer work...and in fact, that is exactly what it HAS done (or rather
 someone  has  done  it  for  it) and there are now 3 versions (at last
 count) of the letters with the attachment and in each case the subject
 and message has changed and the name of the VBS file has been changed.

 You  are  better  off  keeping  your antivirus sw up to date and never
 opening  suspicious  files...especially  ones with the .VBS extension.
 Unless  you  are  in the programming field, it is most unlikely anyone
 would send you a .VBS file unless it was malicious code.

Under windows 95 its unlikely anyone has vbs associated with anything
.
We experimented today and all my systems are now again setup to go to
Ultraedit when VBS or VBE is clicked.



In addition if one gets infected and hasnt rebooted yet, push power to
switch off, reboot and under 98 recover previous registry.
After which one only has to delete the 3 files.
if a reboot has taken place and thus many files have been infected,
very likely all those infected files with extension vbs have to be
deleted.





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