Re[2]: just curious: can messages be automatically marked as read?

[Jan Rifkinson]

Hi Allie,

   On Sunday, December 10, 2000 @ 14:41:51 -0500 you wrote the
   following in regards to just curious: can messages be automatically
   marked as read?:

Allie> [...] You're giving me the impression
Allie> that your understanding of what I wrote is that the time range denotes a
Allie> simple time interval and not a period of time during the 24 hour day
Allie> period.

Allie> That's not what I was saying. I'm saying that it denotes a period of
Allie> time during a 24hour day period. [...]

   I got it the very 1st time; sorry I wasn't clear in saying that.
   But I'm not sure what I supposed to do with the pin.

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Re: just curious: can messages be automatically marked as read?

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On Sun, 10 Dec 2000 14:35:56 -0500, Jan Rifkinson wrote these
words of wisdom:

Allie>> My problem with that interpretation, is why denote a simple time
Allie>> interval in that way? [...]

JR>Damned if I know, Allie. I just assumed you were correct because of
JR>your obvious knowledge of TB! & I was hopefully passing on a
JR>correct interpretation.

Stick a pin there. You're confusing me. You're giving me the impression
that your understanding of what I wrote is that the time range denotes a
simple time interval and not a period of time during the 24 hour day
period.

That's not what I was saying. I'm saying that it denotes a period of
time during a 24hour day period.

For example 00:00-08:30 means 12midnight to 8:30am in the morning.

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Re[2]: just curious: can messages be automatically marked as read?

[Jan Rifkinson]

Hello Alexander,

   In a post time stamped re: "just curious: can messages be
   automatically marked as read?" you wrote:

Alexander> if one types 11:51-13:55 the filter will start to work/be active
Alexander> beginning 11:51am until 13:55 (=01:55pm). That's how I understand it
Alexander> and that's, I think, what Curtis means as well. Or am I wrong?

   No, I think you are right & that was Allie's point as well. It was
   my interpretation that was incorrect -- maybe wishful thinking on
   my part.

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Re[2]: just curious: can messages be automatically marked as read?

[Jan Rifkinson]

Hi Allie,

   On Sunday, December 10, 2000 @ 10:41:16 -0500 you wrote the following in regards to
   just curious: can messages be automatically marked as read?:

Allie> My problem with that interpretation, is why denote a simple time
Allie> interval in that way? [...]

   Damned if I know, Allie. I just assumed you were correct because of
   your obvious knowledge of TB! & I was hopefully passing on a
   correct interpretation.

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Re: just curious: can messages be automatically marked as read?

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When I saw Alexander's message about "just curious: can messages be automatically 
marked as read? ",
I felt like making these comments:

>>Well maybe not. That's what I thought also until I read the
>>following from A. Curtis Martin:

Curtis>>> Putting that awkward help file explanation aside, the option
Curtis>>> statement is pretty self-explanatory.  The filter will
Curtis>>> be active within the time period (of a 24hr day) you specify.

AL> I don't really see a difference here? I'll try to make it more clear:
AL> if one types 11:51-13:55 the filter will start to work/be active
AL> beginning 11:51am until 13:55 (=01:55pm). That's how I understand it
AL> and that's, I think, what Curtis means as well. Or am I wrong?

That's what I meant.

If it were a simple time interval, you wouldn't need to define a
beginning and an end time as if offered in the option.

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Re: just curious: can messages be automatically marked as read?

[Alexander Levenetz]

Hello Jan,

Alexander>> Regarding the time interval-option setting under advanced: The wording
Alexander>> is actually pretty clear :-). A setting like 00:00-00:02 will lead to
Alexander>> a working filter starting 00:00 and ending to minutes later. But I
Alexander>> guess that one is clear now anyway.

>Well maybe not. That's what I thought also until I read the
>following from A. Curtis Martin:

Curtis>> Putting that awkward help file explanation aside, the option
Curtis>> statement is pretty self-explanatory.  The filter will
Curtis>> be active within the time period (of a 24hr day) you specify.

I don't really see a difference here? I'll try to make it more clear:
if one types 11:51-13:55 the filter will start to work/be active
beginning 11:51am until 13:55 (=01:55pm). That's how I understand it
and that's, I think, what Curtis means as well. Or am I wrong?

greetings,
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Re: just curious: can messages be automatically marked as read?

[Ming-Li]

On Sunday, December 10, 2000, 1:51:47 AM, Alexander wrote:

>> But don't you think that Alexander only needs a Ctrl-Shift-M
>> shortcut to mark all the messages of the thread as read?

> Thread killer!! ;-) That's exactly what I need! :-)

Try Ctrl-Shift-Del.

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Re: just curious: can messages be automatically marked as read?

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On Sun, 10 Dec 2000 10:33:34 -0500, Jan Rifkinson wrote these
comments:

Alexander>> Regarding the time interval-option setting under advanced:
Alexander>> The wording is actually pretty clear :-). A setting like
Alexander>> 00:00-00:02 will lead to a working filter starting 00:00 and
Alexander>> ending to minutes later. But I guess that one is clear now
Alexander>> anyway.

JR>Well maybe not. That's what I thought also until I read the
JR>following from A. Curtis Martin:

My problem with that interpretation, is why denote a simple time
interval in that way? If they really intended a simple time interval
they would simply let you denote the seconds and time as a single figure
as is done with denoting the time interval until opened messages are
automatically marked as read.

If the time interval is denoted with the syntax xx:yy-xx:yy it should
mean the time interval between two times of the 24 hour day.

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Re[2]: just curious: can messages be automatically marked as read?

[Jan Rifkinson]

Hello Alexander,

   In a post time stamped re: "just curious: can messages be
   automatically marked as read?" you wrote:

Alexander> Regarding the time interval-option setting under advanced: The wording
Alexander> is actually pretty clear :-). A setting like 00:00-00:02 will lead to
Alexander> a working filter starting 00:00 and ending to minutes later. But I
Alexander> guess that one is clear now anyway.

   Well maybe not. That's what I thought also until I read the
   following from A. Curtis Martin:

Curtis> Putting that awkward help file explanation aside, the option
Curtis> statement is pretty self-explanatory.  The filter will
Curtis> be active within the time period (of a 24hr day) you specify.
Curtis> This therefore cannot be used to automatically mark messages
Curtis> as read 2 hours after they've reached the inbox.

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Re: just curious: can messages be automatically marked as read?

[Alexander Levenetz]

Hello everybody,


sorry for not participating for a while - I was wondering why there
was no new mail in my TB-folder till I remembered that I had checked
"mark messages as read" in my filter options... =:-o

Regarding the time interval-option setting under advanced: The wording
is actually pretty clear :-). A setting like 00:00-00:02 will lead to
a working filter starting 00:00 and ending to minutes later. But I
guess that one is clear now anyway.

Oleg wrote:

> But don't you think that Alexander only needs a Ctrl-Shift-M
> shortcut to mark all the messages of the thread as read?

Thread killer!! ;-) That's exactly what I need! :-) In combination
with Ctrl-A and then Ctrl-Shift-M it does what I was looking for. Not
automatically, but nevertheless. Thanks!

Greetings,
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Re: just curious: can messages be automatically marked as read?

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Hello, the Bat! list recipients,

Saturday, December 09, 2000, Alexander Levenetz wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] about
just curious: can messages be automatically marked as read?:

AL> Reason? Marking mails unread that are sorted by thread (and that I
AL> am  not  going to read after having checked the subject) is rather
AL> time  consuming/annoying  as  I  have  to click on the '+' sign to
AL> first  open up the thread, then mark/highlight the mails, and then
AL> hit Ctrl+M. Any ideas?

Wow,  that  was a long thread. But don't you think that Alexander only
needs  a  Ctrl-Shift-M shortcut to mark all the messages of the thread
as read?

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Re[2]: just curious: can messages be automatically marked as read?

[Jan Rifkinson]

Hello Manfred,

   In a post time stamped  re: "just curious: can messages be
   automatically marked as read?"you wrote:

Manfred> The time interval in the filter advanced tab really means at
Manfred> real time like 14.00-18.00, at least as understand it.
Manfred> Therefore Alexander's request cannot be helped this way. At
Manfred> least these are my conclusions.

   Yes, it looks like you are right as confirmed by Allie in a msg I'm
   sure you've already read. Sorry Alexander.

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Re: just curious: can messages be automatically marked as read?

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On Fri, 8 Dec 2000 22:56:07 +, Manfred Ell thoughtfully wrote
the following:

ME> I have tested as follows: the filter, which moved the TBUDL messages to a
ME> folder was set to execute at time interval 00:00-00:02.
ME> Result: the message stayed in the Inbox (the filter wasn't executed).
ME> I waited 5mins (more then the supposed 2mins I've set) and nothing
ME> happened.
ME> So, I really don't understand this option.

ME> Can somebody please clear this one up?

The advanced option states:

"The filter is only active within this time interval" and you're
provided the means to state your time interval.

Putting that awkward help file explanation aside, the option statement
is pretty self-explanatory.  The filter will be active within the
time period (of a 24hr day) you specify. This therefore cannot be used
to automatically mark messages as read 2 hours after they've reached the
inbox.

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Re[2]: just curious: can messages be automatically marked as read?

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Hello Manfred,

On Saturday, December 09, 2000, 1:02:36 AM, you wrote:

ME> The time interval in the filter advanced tab really means at real
ME> time like 14.00-18.00, at least as understand it.

ME> Therefore Alexander's request cannot be helped this way.

ME> At least these are my conclusions.

Yes, that is correct. It is the same wording as with the time interval
on the Sound tab of Account Properties. I have sound enabled between
0700 and 2400 only, so my entry reads 0700:2400.
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Re: just curious: can messages be automatically marked as read?

[Manfred Ell]

On 09-12-2000 at 19:48:54GMT -0500 (which was 0:48 where I live)
Jan Rifkinson wrote regarding the subject of "just curious: can messages be 
automatically marked as read?"

JR> Hello Manfred,

JR>   In a post time stamped re: "just curious: can messages be
JR>   automatically marked as read?" you wrote:

Manfred>> I haven't been able to find this in the help file, it's not
Manfred>> very well indexed.


JR>  Help -> Find
 
JR>  1. enter "time interval"
 
JR>  resulting in 2. "...interval"
 
JR>  Select 3 "Account preferences"
 
JR>  Scroll down to "Time of reading to mark message as read"

JR>  Maybe you will interpret this short paragraph differently than I did.

Hello Jan,

The help text:

Time of reading to mark a message as read - within this time interval,
unread messages will retain their status. As soon as an unread message is
marked as read, some actions may take place (Read Mail sorting rules,
generation of Reading confirmation)

belongs to the  Account properties-options dialog box!!

The time interval in the filter advanced tab really means at real time like
14.00-18.00, at least as understand it.

Therefore Alexander's request cannot be helped this way.

At least these are my conclusions.

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Re[2]: just curious: can messages be automatically marked as read?

[Jan Rifkinson]

Hello Manfred,

  In a post time stamped re: "just curious: can messages be
  automatically marked as read?" you wrote:

Manfred> I haven't been able to find this in the help file, it's not
Manfred> very well indexed.


 Help -> Find
 
 1. enter "time interval"
 
 resulting in 2. "...interval"
 
 Select 3 "Account preferences"
 
 Scroll down to "Time of reading to mark message as read"

 Maybe you will interpret this short paragraph differently than I did.

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Re[2]: just curious: can messages be automatically marked as read?

[Jan Rifkinson]

Hello Manfred,

  In a post time stamped re: "just curious: can messages be
  automatically marked as read?" you wrote:

Manfred> I have tested as follows: the filter, which moved the TBUDL
Manfred> messages to a folder was set to execute at time interval
Manfred> 00:00-00:02. Result: the message stayed in the Inbox (the
Manfred> filter wasn't executed). I waited 5mins (more then the
Manfred> supposed 2mins I've set) and nothing happened. So, I really
Manfred> don't understand this option.

Manfred> Can somebody please clear this one up?

I will be interested in reading this, too.

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Re: just curious: can messages be automatically marked as read?

[Manfred Ell]

On 08-12-2000 at 17:19:04GMT -0500 (which was 22:19 where I live)
Jan Rifkinson wrote regarding the subject of "just curious: can messages be 
automatically marked as read?"

JR> "Time of reading to mark a message as read - within this time
JR> interval, unread messages will retain their status. As soon as an
JR> unread message is marked as read, some actions may take place (Read
JR> Mail sorting rules, generation of Reading confirmation)"

JR> I may be wrong but it would seem to me that this would work & using a
JR> hot key combination, Alexander could just comb thru these msgs &
JR> dispose of them very quickly otherwise they would get marked read
JR> automatically.

JR> I haven't experimented but couldn't the time interval be 00:00-02:00
JR> as in 2 hours? Where does it say it's real time? Might not this action
JR> apply to each msg's rcv time?  Don't know..., just asking. What do you
JR> think?

Hello Jan,

I have tested as follows: the filter, which moved the TBUDL messages to a
folder was set to execute at time interval 00:00-00:02.
Result: the message stayed in the Inbox (the filter wasn't executed).
I waited 5mins (more then the supposed 2mins I've set) and nothing
happened.
So, I really don't understand this option.

Can somebody please clear this one up?

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Re: just curious: can messages be automatically marked as read?

[Manfred Ell]

On 08-12-2000 at 17:19:04GMT -0500 (which was 22:19 where I live)
Jan Rifkinson wrote regarding the subject of "just curious: can messages be 
automatically marked as read?"

JR> I haven't experimented but couldn't the time interval be 00:00-02:00
JR> as in 2 hours? Where does it say it's real time? Might not this action
JR> apply to each msg's rcv time?  Don't know..., just asking. What do you
JR> think?

Hello Jan,

I haven't been able to find this in the help file, it's not very well
indexed.
I think the best thing to do is to try it out. I'll do this and let you
know the results.

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Re[2]: just curious: can messages be automatically marked as read?

[Jan Rifkinson]

Hello Manfred,

  In a post time stamped re: "just curious: can messages be
  automatically marked as read?" you wrote:

JR>> Look @ your filter, under action tab where you mark the msg as
JR>> read. Under the advanced tab, you can set a time interval.

Manfred> Can you elaborate on this. I think the time interval you mean
Manfred> is not what Alexander needs because as I understand it it
Manfred> runs the filter within a certain time interval let's say from
Manfred> 14.00 - 18.00

Well, I found the following in the help file under time interval:

"Time of reading to mark a message as read - within this time
interval, unread messages will retain their status. As soon as an
unread message is marked as read, some actions may take place (Read
Mail sorting rules, generation of Reading confirmation)"

I may be wrong but it would seem to me that this would work & using a
hot key combination, Alexander could just comb thru these msgs &
dispose of them very quickly otherwise they would get marked read
automatically.

I haven't experimented but couldn't the time interval be 00:00-02:00
as in 2 hours? Where does it say it's real time? Might not this action
apply to each msg's rcv time?  Don't know..., just asking. What do you
think?

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Re: just curious: can messages be automatically marked as read?

[Manfred Ell]

On 08-12-2000 at 15:52:49GMT -0500 (which was 20:52 where I live)
Jan Rifkinson wrote regarding the subject of "just curious: can messages be 
automatically marked as read?"

JR> Look @ your filter, under action tab where you mark the msg as read.
JR> Under the advanced tab, you can set a time interval.

Hello Jan,

Can you elaborate on this. I think the time interval you mean is not what
Alexander needs because as I understand it it runs the filter within a
certain time interval let's say from 14.00 - 18.00

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Re: just curious: can messages be automatically marked as read?

[Alexander Levenetz]

Hello Jan,


> Look @ your filter, under action tab where you mark the msg as read.

Ok, I ticked "Mark the message as read"

> Under the advanced tab, you can set a time interval.

The only option I see where I can set a time is "This filter is actice
only within this time intercal:" Is this what you mean? I thought this
only affects the "working hours" of the filter?

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Re: just curious: can messages be automatically marked as read?

[Jan Rifkinson]

Hello Alexander,

   On Friday, December 08, 2000 @ 21:34:08 +0100, you wrote the
   following about "just curious: can messages be automatically marked
   as read?"

Alexander> I'm just wondering if there is a way to mark messages in a certain
Alexander> folder automatically as read - without having read them. But not right
Alexander> away: they should be bold (=unread) when they are sorted into the
Alexander> folder but should then be marked read after, lets say, 2 hrs.

Look @ your filter, under action tab where you mark the msg as read.
Under the advanced tab, you can set a time interval.

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just curious: can messages be automatically marked as read?

[Alexander Levenetz]

Hello everybody,


I'm just wondering if there is a way to mark messages in a certain
folder automatically as read - without having read them. But not right
away: they should be bold (=unread) when they are sorted into the
folder but should then be marked read after, lets say, 2 hrs. Reason?
Marking mails unread that are sorted by thread (and that I am not
going to read after having checked the subject) is rather time
consuming/annoying as I have to click on the '+' sign to first open up
the thread, then mark/highlight the mails, and then hit Ctrl+M. Any
ideas?

Greetings,
Alexander

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