Re: [TCP] showing contract work on a resume
Hi Lisa, I would recommend NOT putting your contract work into another category from other employment because you'll lose the benefit of having things in reverse-chronological order. If you work as an independent contractor for a few years, you don't want people to get the impression that you weren't working at all during that time. Below are a couple of suggestions for how to include contract positions or self-employment chronologically among your other jobs. Option 1 -- If you have done multiple, back-to-back jobs for one contract company (including a company of your own): Technical Writer, Contract Company Name - Contracted to ABC (dates)--Spell out your job responsibilities as part of a bulleted list. - Contracted to XYZ (dates)--Spell out your job responsibilities as part of a bulleted list. Option 2 -- If you want to emphasize the company you did the work for (but without lying about being an employee) and de-emphasize the contract company: Technical Writer, ABC Company (dates)--As a contract employee, ... (or As an independent contractor, ...) Option 3 -- If you want to lump together assorted contract/consultant jobs (works for odd jobs that took up time but didn't contribute to your career path): Self-Employed Technical Writer (dates)--Performed technical writing, editing, and desktop publishing for several companies, including ABC Company and XYZ Company. I tend to use Option 2 because I can't remember any more which contract houses I used for which contract positions (four jobs through three companies back in the 1990s). Some of the contract houses don't exist any more, so listing them would be useless anyway. No one has ever asked about which contract house I billed through. Regarding your question about the e after the hyphen. Capitalize it! :-) Best regards, Donna - CONFIDENTIAL- This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential, and may also be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not review, use, copy, or distribute this message. If you receive this email in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply email and then delete this email. __ Author Help files and create printed documentation with Doc-To-Help. New release adds Team Authoring Support, enhanced Web-based help technology and PDF output. Learn more at www.doctohelp.com/tcp. Interactive 3D Documentation Parts catalogs, animated instructions, and more. www.i3deverywhere.com ___ Technical Communication Professionals Post a message to the list: email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, unsubscribe, archives, account options, list info: http://techcommpros.com/mailman/listinfo/tcp_techcommpros.com Subscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get the TCP whole experience! http://www.techcommpros.com
Re: [TCP] showing contract work on a resume
You might want to consider creating a functional resume first, and then include the chronological list of positions at the end. That way you focus on your skill sets and experience first, and satisfy the recruiter robots who look for the chronological stuff. Connie P. Giordano The Right Words Communications Information Design http://www.therightwords.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] (704) 540-9985 (office) (704) 957-8450 (mobile) It's kind of fun to do the impossible. - Walt Disney -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lisa Gielczyk (TCP) Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 10:00 PM To: email Subject: [TCP] showing contract work on a resume Hello, I'm updating my resume to include some contract work I've done in the last couple of months. This is the first time I've done contract work, so I'm wondering, how do those of you who do contract work include it on your resumes? I was thinking of putting a category called Self-employment (does the e after the hyphen get capitalized?), with the two types of work under that (formatting translations and typesetting/template design). Thoughts? Thanks, Lisa Gielczyk __ Author Help files and create printed documentation with Doc-To-Help. New release adds Team Authoring Support, enhanced Web-based help technology and PDF output. Learn more at www.doctohelp.com/tcp. Interactive 3D Documentation Parts catalogs, animated instructions, and more. www.i3deverywhere.com ___ Technical Communication Professionals Post a message to the list: email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, unsubscribe, archives, account options, list info: http://techcommpros.com/mailman/listinfo/tcp_techcommpros.com Subscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get the TCP whole experience! http://www.techcommpros.com __ Author Help files and create printed documentation with Doc-To-Help. New release adds Team Authoring Support, enhanced Web-based help technology and PDF output. Learn more at www.doctohelp.com/tcp. Interactive 3D Documentation Parts catalogs, animated instructions, and more. www.i3deverywhere.com ___ Technical Communication Professionals Post a message to the list: email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, unsubscribe, archives, account options, list info: http://techcommpros.com/mailman/listinfo/tcp_techcommpros.com Subscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get the TCP whole experience! http://www.techcommpros.com
Re: [TCP] showing contract work on a resume
Hello, I'm updating my resume to include some contract work I've done in the last couple of months. This is the first time I've done contract work, so I'm wondering, how do those of you who do contract work include it on your resumes? I was thinking of putting a category called Self-employment (does the e after the hyphen get capitalized?), with the two types of work under that (formatting translations and typesetting/template design). Thoughts? Lisa, For contract jobs that I've done through a body shop, which have been fairly long-term assignments in my case, I just list them as jobs. I'll say something like senior technical writer at XYZ Corp., on contract assignment from ABC Agency and then go on to say what I did for XYZ. More recently, I've been self-employed and getting my own contracts. So I just list my own business as the employer and under that list the variety of work I've done for various clients, but I don't list the clients. That way I'm showing a long-terms job (working for myself) instead of listing a gazillion short-term assignments, which someone might look at unfavorably unless they bothered to ask what was going on. Dick __ Author Help files and create printed documentation with Doc-To-Help. New release adds Team Authoring Support, enhanced Web-based help technology and PDF output. Learn more at www.doctohelp.com/tcp. Interactive 3D Documentation Parts catalogs, animated instructions, and more. www.i3deverywhere.com ___ Technical Communication Professionals Post a message to the list: email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, unsubscribe, archives, account options, list info: http://techcommpros.com/mailman/listinfo/tcp_techcommpros.com Subscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get the TCP whole experience! http://www.techcommpros.com
Re: [TCP] Upgrade Anger to Tech Comm Suite.
In the case of the car, it was an on-lot availability thing. I knew it was coming, but I couldn't get one when I needed one (was a need to purchase NOW, my old car is falling apart kind of thing). In the case of Adobe, they often don't announce things until a month prior to their actual (not target) ship date. This has been their model with FrameMaker for as long as I can remember them owning it. I'd be miffed as well if I couldn't get a recent buyer upgrade price for the TCS. FM8 didn't come out terribly long before the TCS, and we knew (well, I knew) that something was brewing since Adobe didn't release the FM FDK as they usually do when a new version FM ships. They were holding their cards close for the RH integration in the suite before folks like Quadralay and others could create a truly FM 8-compatible version of their competing products. I'd say that this alone would be something to watch in the future. If the FDK for the new version of FM is held up, my bet is on a pending upgrade to either the TCS or to RH specifically. If this is important to you, hold off on upgrading FM until you know what's what. On Nov 12, 2007 9:12 PM, Gene Kim-Eng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you start reading automobile magazines 6-12 months before you intend to buy a car, you will usually know if another car is coming along to replace the current model well in advance, and often you'll see ads that say coming to your...dealer on Oct 1st. In fact, your... dealer will be holding end of year clearance sales on the old model long before the new one is set to arrive. Sales promotions are another thing. It's entirely possible to miss a sale (rebates, zero-percent financing, etc.) because you bought a few weeks too early. But you usually get a sporting chance at avoiding that by keeping an eye on the industry sales figures for the current month to help you guess whether the salespeople will be more or less hungry next month. Something you can't do for SW if sales figures are not publicly disclosed. If I paid $899 for one SW product and then discovered that if I'd waited a month or two I could have had a V8, er more SW, for $99 more, I'd be miffed. One way to reduce the chances of it happening is to never buy a new SW product terribly soon after it comes out. With Adobe and MS products, I usually don't touch them until I see at least the second service release come out. After my experience with an ongoing bug in Acrobat 7, I decided to only buy new Adobe SW during that period at the end of the product's lifecycle when they say buy now and get a free upgrade to our upcoming new version. -- Bill Swallow HATT List Owner WWP-Users List Owner Senior Member STC, TechValley Chapter STC Single-Sourcing SIG Manager http://techcommdood.blogspot.com __ Author Help files and create printed documentation with Doc-To-Help. New release adds Team Authoring Support, enhanced Web-based help technology and PDF output. Learn more at www.doctohelp.com/tcp. Interactive 3D Documentation Parts catalogs, animated instructions, and more. www.i3deverywhere.com ___ Technical Communication Professionals Post a message to the list: email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, unsubscribe, archives, account options, list info: http://techcommpros.com/mailman/listinfo/tcp_techcommpros.com Subscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get the TCP whole experience! http://www.techcommpros.com
Re: [TCP] Upgrade Anger to Tech Comm Suite.
When you purchase a car, you know that a new model year is going to be available somewhere around the October timeframe. If you purchase a car in September, that's the chance you take. Sometimes, as in Bill's case, you don't have a choice (when blonde bimbo totalled my car, I had to buy a car right then!). Framemaker 8 was released in July. The official announcement by Adobe was July 23. That was quite a long time between the FM release and the TCS release. As I said before, Adobe is bound by SEC rules and regulations regarding the announcement of releases. If you don't like the way they are required to do business, I'd suggest finding another tool or a vendor who is not a publicly traded company. They cannot announce a release during certain periods, and they (appear) to be following SEC guidelines correctly. ...sue On 11/13/07, Bill Swallow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the case of the car, it was an on-lot availability thing. I knew it was coming, but I couldn't get one when I needed one (was a need to purchase NOW, my old car is falling apart kind of thing). In the case of Adobe, they often don't announce things until a month prior to their actual (not target) ship date. This has been their model with FrameMaker for as long as I can remember them owning it. I'd be miffed as well if I couldn't get a recent buyer upgrade price for the TCS. FM8 didn't come out terribly long before the TCS, and we knew (well, I knew) that something was brewing since Adobe didn't release the FM FDK as they usually do when a new version FM ships. They were holding their cards close for the RH integration in the suite before folks like Quadralay and others could create a truly FM 8-compatible version of their competing products. I'd say that this alone would be something to watch in the future. If the FDK for the new version of FM is held up, my bet is on a pending upgrade to either the TCS or to RH specifically. If this is important to you, hold off on upgrading FM until you know what's what. On Nov 12, 2007 9:12 PM, Gene Kim-Eng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you start reading automobile magazines 6-12 months before you intend to buy a car, you will usually know if another car is coming along to replace the current model well in advance, and often you'll see ads that say coming to your...dealer on Oct 1st. In fact, your... dealer will be holding end of year clearance sales on the old model long before the new one is set to arrive. Sales promotions are another thing. It's entirely possible to miss a sale (rebates, zero-percent financing, etc.) because you bought a few weeks too early. But you usually get a sporting chance at avoiding that by keeping an eye on the industry sales figures for the current month to help you guess whether the salespeople will be more or less hungry next month. Something you can't do for SW if sales figures are not publicly disclosed. If I paid $899 for one SW product and then discovered that if I'd waited a month or two I could have had a V8, er more SW, for $99 more, I'd be miffed. One way to reduce the chances of it happening is to never buy a new SW product terribly soon after it comes out. With Adobe and MS products, I usually don't touch them until I see at least the second service release come out. After my experience with an ongoing bug in Acrobat 7, I decided to only buy new Adobe SW during that period at the end of the product's lifecycle when they say buy now and get a free upgrade to our upcoming new version. -- Bill Swallow HATT List Owner WWP-Users List Owner Senior Member STC, TechValley Chapter STC Single-Sourcing SIG Manager http://techcommdood.blogspot.com __ Author Help files and create printed documentation with Doc-To-Help. New release adds Team Authoring Support, enhanced Web-based help technology and PDF output. Learn more at www.doctohelp.com/tcp. Interactive 3D Documentation Parts catalogs, animated instructions, and more. www.i3deverywhere.com ___ Technical Communication Professionals Post a message to the list: email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, unsubscribe, archives, account options, list info: http://techcommpros.com/mailman/listinfo/tcp_techcommpros.com Subscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get the TCP whole experience! http://www.techcommpros.com __ Author Help files and create printed documentation with Doc-To-Help. New release adds Team Authoring Support, enhanced Web-based help technology and PDF output. Learn more at www.doctohelp.com/tcp. Interactive 3D Documentation Parts catalogs, animated instructions, and more. www.i3deverywhere.com ___ Technical
Re: [TCP] showing contract work on a resume
If there's only one odd man out contract job mixed in with an otherwise all-direct work history, I would just list it chronologically the same as all the other positions. If it was very short and you're concerned about a job-hopping perception, you can flag it as contract, as in ABC, Inc., Anytown, USA (Contract) If you have a number of contracts in your history, and especially if you have a history of carrying multiple clients at the same time, I'd create a dba (doing business as) alias, such as Gielczyk Document Services, and summarize the work and any major accomplishments as if they were all done for the same employer. If you think your client/s would be impressive to the reader, you can add Client List: ... at the end. This can also be a useful way to fill out periods in which you may have had both contracts and idle time. Gene Kim-Eng - Original Message - From: Lisa Gielczyk (TCP) [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm updating my resume to include some contract work I've done in the last couple of months. This is the first time I've done contract work, so I'm wondering, how do those of you who do contract work include it on your resumes? I was thinking of putting a category called Self-employment (does the e after the hyphen get capitalized?), with the two types of work under that (formatting translations and typesetting/template design). Thoughts? __ Author Help files and create printed documentation with Doc-To-Help. New release adds Team Authoring Support, enhanced Web-based help technology and PDF output. Learn more at www.doctohelp.com/tcp. Interactive 3D Documentation Parts catalogs, animated instructions, and more. www.i3deverywhere.com ___ Technical Communication Professionals Post a message to the list: email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, unsubscribe, archives, account options, list info: http://techcommpros.com/mailman/listinfo/tcp_techcommpros.com Subscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get the TCP whole experience! http://www.techcommpros.com
[TCP] Response from Adobe** RE: Upgrade Anger to Tech Comm Suite.
Richard and all, Most of our product management and product marketing team are on the road this week hence the lack of response from Adobe. We usually split up the list serve and forum responses amongst the team. I caught wind of this thread from someone else since I don't monitor this list serve. I haven't read all the responses on this topic but this is what I can tell you right now. If anyone owns ANY PREVIOUS VERSION of RoboHelp, FrameMaker or Captivate you are eligible for a $999 upgrade to the Suite (technically this is really a 'cross-grade'). Just so you are clear on pricing this is what TCS pricing looks like in comparison to other Adobe Suites. Please note that since this is version 1 of TCS, a true upgrade isn't available right now. Sometimes folks refer to an upgrade as an up-sell or cross-grade. Also, as Sue mentions below, since Adobe is a public company and we are international we need to adherea lot of SEC rules. This also applies to policies regarding pricing of upgrades and cross-grades. Product Price Upgrade From Previous Suite Version Upgrade (cross-grade)From a non-Suite or individual application Cost if Purchased separately Creative Suite 3 Design Premium $1,799 $599 $1799 $3844 Creative Suite 3 Design Standard $1,199 $399 $899 $2396 Creative Suite 3 Web Premium $1,599 $499 $1399 Don't know off hand Creative Suite 3 Web Standard $999 $399 $799 Don't know off hand Technical Communication Suite $1,599 Does not apply $999 $3592 Thanks, -MH -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sue Heim Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 10:03 AM To: Bill Swallow Cc: tcp@techcommpros.com Subject: Re: [TCP] Upgrade Anger to Tech Comm Suite. When you purchase a car, you know that a new model year is going to be available somewhere around the October timeframe. If you purchase a car in September, that's the chance you take. Sometimes, as in Bill's case, you don't have a choice (when blonde bimbo totalled my car, I had to buy a car right then!). Framemaker 8 was released in July. The official announcement by Adobe was July 23. That was quite a long time between the FM release and the TCS release. As I said before, Adobe is bound by SEC rules and regulations regarding the announcement of releases. If you don't like the way they are required to do business, I'd suggest finding another tool or a vendor who is not a publicly traded company. They cannot announce a release during certain periods, and they (appear) to be following SEC guidelines correctly. ...sue __ Author Help files and create printed documentation with Doc-To-Help. New release adds Team Authoring Support, enhanced Web-based help technology and PDF output. Learn more at www.doctohelp.com/tcp. Interactive 3D Documentation Parts catalogs, animated instructions, and more. www.i3deverywhere.com ___ Technical Communication Professionals Post a message to the list: email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, unsubscribe, archives, account options, list info: http://techcommpros.com/mailman/listinfo/tcp_techcommpros.com Subscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get the TCP whole experience! http://www.techcommpros.com
Re: [TCP] Response from Adobe** RE: Upgrade Anger to Tech Comm Suite.
Michael, In this case, these policies have resulted in a pricing structure that probably makes TCS unattractive to people who own the CURRENT (not previous) releases of any of its components. As it happens, I'm on FM 7 and Acrobat 7, so when the time comes that I have to upgrade to newer releases of either, TCS might be a reasonable option to consider. But if I had already bought FM8 or Acrobat 8, you shouldn't expect to see my order until the 9.0 releases come out. Gene Kim-Eng - Original Message - From: Michael Hu [EMAIL PROTECTED] I haven't read all the responses on this topic but this is what I can tell you right now. If anyone owns ANY PREVIOUS VERSION of RoboHelp, FrameMaker or Captivate you are eligible for a $999 upgrade to the Suite (technically this is really a 'cross-grade'). Just so you are clear on pricing this is what TCS pricing looks like in comparison to other Adobe Suites. Please note that since this is version 1 of TCS, a true upgrade isn't available right now. Sometimes folks refer to an upgrade as an up-sell or cross-grade. Also, as Sue mentions below, since Adobe is a public company and we are international we need to adherea lot of SEC rules. This also applies to policies regarding pricing of upgrades and cross-grades. __ Author Help files and create printed documentation with Doc-To-Help. New release adds Team Authoring Support, enhanced Web-based help technology and PDF output. Learn more at www.doctohelp.com/tcp. Interactive 3D Documentation Parts catalogs, animated instructions, and more. www.i3deverywhere.com ___ Technical Communication Professionals Post a message to the list: email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, unsubscribe, archives, account options, list info: http://techcommpros.com/mailman/listinfo/tcp_techcommpros.com Subscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get the TCP whole experience! http://www.techcommpros.com
Re: [TCP] Response from Adobe** RE: Upgrade Anger to Tech Comm Suite.
Hi Gene, I think each person's situation is going to be different. In your case if all you need is the upgrade for FrameMaker 8($299) and Acrobat Professional 8 ($159) = $458. Then you could just go for that upgrade. On the other hand if you need the enhanced version of FrameMaker and RoboHelp only found in the Suite and would benefit from deeper integration then TCS might make sense. How much time would the deeper integration save you? Also do you need Acrobat 8 functionality (Acrobat 3D is a superset of Acrobat Professional), Captivate 3, RoboScreen Capture and RoboSource Control 3? Pay $999. Now if you could prove you are a qualified education user then you would just pay $599. http://store1.adobe.com/cfusion/store/html/index.cfm?event=displayEduCon ditionsstore=OLS-EDU Thanks, -MH -Original Message- From: Gene Kim-Eng [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 12:10 PM To: Michael Hu; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: tcp@techcommpros.com Subject: Re: [TCP] Response from Adobe** RE: Upgrade Anger to Tech Comm Suite. Michael, In this case, these policies have resulted in a pricing structure that probably makes TCS unattractive to people who own the CURRENT (not previous) releases of any of its components. As it happens, I'm on FM 7 and Acrobat 7, so when the time comes that I have to upgrade to newer releases of either, TCS might be a reasonable option to consider. But if I had already bought FM8 or Acrobat 8, you shouldn't expect to see my order until the 9.0 releases come out. Gene Kim-Eng - Original Message - From: Michael Hu [EMAIL PROTECTED] I haven't read all the responses on this topic but this is what I can tell you right now. If anyone owns ANY PREVIOUS VERSION of RoboHelp, FrameMaker or Captivate you are eligible for a $999 upgrade to the Suite (technically this is really a 'cross-grade'). Just so you are clear on pricing this is what TCS pricing looks like in comparison to other Adobe Suites. Please note that since this is version 1 of TCS, a true upgrade isn't available right now. Sometimes folks refer to an upgrade as an up-sell or cross-grade. Also, as Sue mentions below, since Adobe is a public company and we are international we need to adherea lot of SEC rules. This also applies to policies regarding pricing of upgrades and cross-grades. __ Author Help files and create printed documentation with Doc-To-Help. New release adds Team Authoring Support, enhanced Web-based help technology and PDF output. Learn more at www.doctohelp.com/tcp. Interactive 3D Documentation Parts catalogs, animated instructions, and more. www.i3deverywhere.com ___ Technical Communication Professionals Post a message to the list: email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, unsubscribe, archives, account options, list info: http://techcommpros.com/mailman/listinfo/tcp_techcommpros.com Subscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get the TCP whole experience! http://www.techcommpros.com
Re: [TCP] OT Vent re: STC
I've been an STC member for a while. I've contributed some. I'm a senior member, helped with the local chapter as a Webmaster and president. I think I'm done. My thoughts: 1) We're different, the STC organization and I. Ethics are important to me. Presenting communication in a clear, accurate, and concise way is important to me. The membership is important to me. I struggle to find evidence that the STC as an organization values those same things. a) Treat the members ethically. Listen to and respect them. b) Treat the chapters ethically. Listen to and respect them. c) Promote ethical communication and lead by example. d) STC communication -- Website, email, newsletters, the whole thing -- should exemplify good traits in technical and business communication. 2) ROI. I've put a fair bit in. I want something back. Prices are rising and I cannot find the value in spending $175. 3) At a local level, it's the same stouthearted folks doing the work, and they're burnt out. Others need to step up. I don't have a solution for that but I'm burnt out, too. And, when I say the STC organization, I mean the umbrella organization. I understand there are good folks elected to office and likely good folks hired to work for the STC, but my perception is that those outstanding individuals are diminished by the whole. Cheers, Sean - Original Message From: Bill Swallow [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Sue Heim [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: TCP List TCP@techcommpros.com Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 1:18:31 PM Subject: Re: [TCP] OT Vent re: STC Last I heard, everyone is entitled to his or her own opinion. And until any of us have walked in Paula's shoes, I think it's plenty disrespectful to discredit her opinion. Well said. I will say that there are folks in the STC looking to make changes. As with any organization, change is slow. I have some ideas for change, but the approach needed is to change things immeiately, and unfortunately there are many who consider that impossible, where I just consider it unreasonable. We need more unreasonable thinkers and doers in the STC if we're going to make large positive changes. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs __ Author Help files and create printed documentation with Doc-To-Help. New release adds Team Authoring Support, enhanced Web-based help technology and PDF output. Learn more at www.doctohelp.com/tcp. Interactive 3D Documentation Parts catalogs, animated instructions, and more. www.i3deverywhere.com ___ Technical Communication Professionals Post a message to the list: email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, unsubscribe, archives, account options, list info: http://techcommpros.com/mailman/listinfo/tcp_techcommpros.com Subscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get the TCP whole experience! http://www.techcommpros.com
[TCP] Adobe Response* RE: OT Vent re: STC
Hi All, Please feel free to email me on this topic directly. As a key player in various industries, in this case Technical Communication and Instructional Design, my team at Adobe is interested in hearing your opinions with regards to how we can drive industry change. Adobe has the resources to create tools, new technology and help drive adoption of open standards but we also have the ability drive other non-product related changes to help our customers and industry. The membership of any organization is just like a customer of any product. It is the reason why we exist. We are here to serve the customer/membership/shareholders. I am not promising that Adobe can drive change but we can always try and I am willing to listen and help find a solution. What can Adobe to help? I thought I'd share this with all of you. This isn't a bunch of marketing fluff. These are actual Adobe Core Values that are part of the company culture. May not seem that way to some folks outside of Adobe but is really how we try to work everyday and is a large part of our success. Adobe Core Values Adobe was founded by John Warnock and Chuck Geschke with a set of core values that remain critical to our success and have made Adobe one of the best places to work. 1) Integrity Conduct business according to the highest ethical standards 2) Customer Focus Deliver high-quality, high-value solutions 3) Innovation Foster a culture of innovation and encourage creativity 4) Operational Excellence Maintain an environment that focuses on continuous improvement 5) Leadership Inspire and empower one another to achieve our vision 6) Teamwork Promote cross-functional collaboration and communication 7) Dynamic Environment Cultivate an energizingenvironment that instills a sense of pride and winning spirit 8) Stockholder Value Generate a superior return on our stockholders' investment through long-term revenue growth and profit 9) Community Impact Share our success by supporting charitable causes and employee volunteer activities. Thanks, -MH -- Michael Hu Senior Product Marketing Manager Adobe Systems Incorporated 345 Park Avenue San Jose, CA 95110-2704 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sean Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 4:01 PM To: TCP List Subject: Re: [TCP] OT Vent re: STC I've been an STC member for a while. I've contributed some. I'm a senior member, helped with the local chapter as a Webmaster and president. I think I'm done. My thoughts: 1) We're different, the STC organization and I. Ethics are important to me. Presenting communication in a clear, accurate, and concise way is important to me. The membership is important to me. I struggle to find evidence that the STC as an organization values those same things. a) Treat the members ethically. Listen to and respect them. b) Treat the chapters ethically. Listen to and respect them. c) Promote ethical communication and lead by example. d) STC communication -- Website, email, newsletters, the whole thing -- should exemplify good traits in technical and business communication. 2) ROI. I've put a fair bit in. I want something back. Prices are rising and I cannot find the value in spending $175. 3) At a local level, it's the same stouthearted folks doing the work, and they're burnt out. Others need to step up. I don't have a solution for that but I'm burnt out, too. And, when I say the STC organization, I mean the umbrella organization. I understand there are good folks elected to office and likely good folks hired to work for the STC, but my perception is that those outstanding individuals are diminished by the whole. Cheers, Sean __ Author Help files and create printed documentation with Doc-To-Help. New release adds Team Authoring Support, enhanced Web-based help technology and PDF output. Learn more at www.doctohelp.com/tcp. Interactive 3D Documentation Parts catalogs, animated instructions, and more. www.i3deverywhere.com ___ Technical Communication Professionals Post a message to the list: email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, unsubscribe, archives, account options, list info: http://techcommpros.com/mailman/listinfo/tcp_techcommpros.com Subscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get the TCP whole experience! http://www.techcommpros.com
Re: [TCP] OT Vent re: STC
Sean, You imply that the STC did something unethical. Can you provide any details? Holly Harkness -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Sean Sent: Tue 11/13/2007 7:00 PM To: TCP List Subject: Re: [TCP] OT Vent re: STC I've been an STC member for a while. I've contributed some. I'm a senior member, helped with the local chapter as a Webmaster and president. I think I'm done. My thoughts: 1) We're different, the STC organization and I. Ethics are important to me. Presenting communication in a clear, accurate, and concise way is important to me. The membership is important to me. I struggle to find evidence that the STC as an organization values those same things. a) Treat the members ethically. Listen to and respect them. b) Treat the chapters ethically. Listen to and respect them. c) Promote ethical communication and lead by example. d) STC communication -- Website, email, newsletters, the whole thing -- should exemplify good traits in technical and business communication. 2) ROI. I've put a fair bit in. I want something back. Prices are rising and I cannot find the value in spending $175. 3) At a local level, it's the same stouthearted folks doing the work, and they're burnt out. Others need to step up. I don't have a solution for that but I'm burnt out, too. And, when I say the STC organization, I mean the umbrella organization. I understand there are good folks elected to office and likely good folks hired to work for the STC, but my perception is that those outstanding individuals are diminished by the whole. Cheers, Sean - Original Message From: Bill Swallow [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Sue Heim [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: TCP List TCP@techcommpros.com Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 1:18:31 PM Subject: Re: [TCP] OT Vent re: STC Last I heard, everyone is entitled to his or her own opinion. And until any of us have walked in Paula's shoes, I think it's plenty disrespectful to discredit her opinion. Well said. I will say that there are folks in the STC looking to make changes. As with any organization, change is slow. I have some ideas for change, but the approach needed is to change things immeiately, and unfortunately there are many who consider that impossible, where I just consider it unreasonable. We need more unreasonable thinkers and doers in the STC if we're going to make large positive changes. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs __ Author Help files and create printed documentation with Doc-To-Help. New release adds Team Authoring Support, enhanced Web-based help technology and PDF output. Learn more at www.doctohelp.com/tcp. Interactive 3D Documentation Parts catalogs, animated instructions, and more. www.i3deverywhere.com ___ Technical Communication Professionals Post a message to the list: email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, unsubscribe, archives, account options, list info: http://techcommpros.com/mailman/listinfo/tcp_techcommpros.com Subscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get the TCP whole experience! http://www.techcommpros.com __ Author Help files and create printed documentation with Doc-To-Help. New release adds Team Authoring Support, enhanced Web-based help technology and PDF output. Learn more at www.doctohelp.com/tcp. Interactive 3D Documentation Parts catalogs, animated instructions, and more. www.i3deverywhere.com ___ Technical Communication Professionals Post a message to the list: email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, unsubscribe, archives, account options, list info: http://techcommpros.com/mailman/listinfo/tcp_techcommpros.com Subscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe (email): send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need help? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get the TCP whole experience! http://www.techcommpros.com
