Re: [TeX-Music] Ubuntu, TeTeX, TeXlive
On Mon, 3 Mar 2008, Simon Dreher wrote: Because Thomas Esser (the former tetex maintainer) stopped his support in favour of texlive? I had not heard that. As far I read his email, he stopped support of TeX packages which are on ctan anyhow, but promised to continue to support the tetex binaries. Has that changed in the meantime? Christof -- Prof. Dr. Christof K. Biebricher Max-Planck-Institute for Biophysical Chemistry D-37070 Göttingen Tel: +49 (551) 201 1442 FAX: +49 (551) 201 1578 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.daimi.au.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-Music] changes in number of voices
On Mon, 28 Jan 2008, Don Simons wrote: I have published one vocal piece, and I used M-Tx for it. I spent a great deal of time resolving issues exactly like the ones you mention. And it got even worse when I went to make parts. I think changing the number of voices in the score is doable, but I ended up finding no good overall solution for partmaking, and among other tricks I wrote a FORTRAN program to do some intermediate parsing of the PMX file generated by M-Tx. There are indeed problems with part extracting of M-Tx made scores. Since many of my scores have voices and instruments and I need parts for the instruments, I use the following procedure: 1) Using an older M-Tx-version that avoids redefinitions of pmx-macros like \MtxEM and makes the mtx.tex macro collection unnecessary; 2) Editing the pmx file to throw out unnecessary additions, including the lyrics; 3) then scor2prt operation. This works. I have no idea what in mtx.tex interferes with scor2prt. Christof -- Prof. Dr. Christof K. Biebricher Max-Planck-Institute for Biophysical Chemistry D-37070 Göttingen Tel: +49 (551) 201 1442 FAX: +49 (551) 201 1578 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.daimi.au.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-Music] Info on MTX
On Mon, 28 Jan 2008, Carlo Centemeri wrote: %%K+0-2 m d4 Dp d cs d | To which I should add the LxMy command for the new paragraph. But if I add it together withe the previous ones, the mtx file is compiled correctly, while the pmx one gives an error (I have and Rd appearing out ot the blue, which causes the statement Rd symbol could appear only on voice 1). The error is shown: K is a pmx command, and in pmx voice 1 is the lowest voice, not the highest as in M-Tx! Christof -- Prof. Dr. Christof K. Biebricher Max-Planck-Institute for Biophysical Chemistry D-37070 Göttingen Tel: +49 (551) 201 1442 FAX: +49 (551) 201 1578 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.daimi.au.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-Music] Ties at repeats
On Fri, 3 Aug 2007, Don Simons wrote: t .\ Abepl g04 t | g t t+.5+.5 | g t+.5-.5 t | g t t / g04 t t | g t t+1+1 | g t+1-1 t | g t t / g04 t t | g t t | g t t+2+2 | g t+2-2 t / g04 t t | g t t | g t t | g t t / g04 t t | g t t | g t t | g t / === Maybe I don't understand the problem. It appears to me that the limit on tie adjustments occurs only with bitmapped slurs/ties, but not postscript. Are you using bitmapped slurs/ties? If so, why not use postscript? Dear Don: thank you for the solution. I learned two things I did not know: first, that you can use several t one after another and, secondly, that adjustement is possible with the Kneifl slurs. I am not an editor of music. Nearly all of my typesetting is done for quick arrangements not to be published, with a minimum of cosmetic efforts. Under standard conditions, the postscript slurs and ties are too much curved for my crowded scores. Of course, that can be adjusted, but usually I simply compare the slurs of the drafts and take what suits me best. Thanks again, Christof ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.daimi.au.dk/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Blank page in a score
On Mon, 12 Mar 2007, Cornelius C. Noack wrote: Thing are OK I send the PostScript to a PostScript printer, but when I view the score with Acrobat Reader, the printing stops at the first blank page, and Acrobat Reader reports a printing error. I had also problems with the Acrobat Reader printing scores I downloaded, stopping often without visible reason. Better behaved is xpdf in linux which I would recommend. In most cases, I also succeeded to print the pages after the printing error without problem. Christof ___ TeX-music mailing list TeX-music@icking-music-archive.org http://icking-music-archive.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] MusixTeX is great. What to choose next?
On Mon, 26 Feb 2007, Mats Bengtsson wrote: Sorry to answer about LilyPond on this mailing list. As long as you use LaTeX to write your documents, you can certainly insert both large and small music examples using lilypond-book, which is included in the LilyPond distribution. Lilypond-book works as a preprocessor that generates the scores as EPS (or PDF files if you will use pdflatex), one file per score line, and replaces the LilyPond code in the input file with \includegraphics commands that (pdf)latex can handle. This method can of course also be taken by typesetting with M-Tx or pmx. It is sometimes the best way. Short music examples of less than a line are preferentially embedded by writing musixtex code directly. Larger pieces can be produced by typesetting with a preprocessor, producing the TeX code, edit it to adapt to LaTeX and \input it into the main file. Please take a look at the various documentations of musixtex and the preprocessors: there these possibilities are nicely demonstrated since the documentations are written in LaTeX. Christof ___ TeX-music mailing list TeX-music@icking-music-archive.org http://icking-music-archive.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Kuykens's warning, history of MusiXTeX
On Mon, 10 Jul 2006, Jean-Pierre Coulon wrote: Does anybody know when Hans Kuykens's warning at the beginning of the MusiXTeX manual was written? (... awesome job which gobbles ...) Of course the disk space part is now obsolete, but I'm just curious. Has anybody an old, old MusiXTeX manual? Could even be from the MusicTeX times. It is at least 10 years old. As I began with the MusicTeX program, I certainly did not chose it for the challenge of mastering an awesome job, but for typesetting notes. If I would have read the manual, I would have quit right away after reading this sentence. Luckily, I learned musicTeX from the Latex-book of Helmut Kopka (Addison Wesley) that contained a chapter about musicTeX and stated that it was no problem for the author, an absolute layman in musics, to typeset music with this program. Of course, Kopka is a TeXpert, but it was certainly not an awesome job for me either because I was already familiar with TeX. In my humble opinion, the whole sentence is obsolete. Can anyone tell me why it is untouchable? Christof ___ TeX-music mailing list TeX-music@icking-music-archive.org http://icking-music-archive.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Kuykens's warning, history of MusiXTeX
On Mon, 10 Jul 2006, Jean-Pierre Coulon wrote: When a person familiar with Word, Powerpoint, or Finale, or other WYSIthingy stuff sees me making corrections in a MusiXTeX file after he pointed out errors in my score, his face becomes green :-) Has anybody a similar experience? I doubt things would be different with PMX. Things _are_ different with PMX and M-Tx. The main point is that many musicians can read a simple standard choral piece and hear the notes nearly as well as if they would have a score. The nomenclature is self-evident. If it comes to complicated scores; well, that needs of course learning and experience. Still missing are help files that let one look up the syntax. I have written one for my editor, but everyone uses a different editor... Christof ___ TeX-music mailing list TeX-music@icking-music-archive.org http://icking-music-archive.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Musixtex package
Dear all: in my opinion, musixtex and the preprocessors are mature and stable software. While there will be maintenance releases in the future, it is unlikely that major changes will take place. On the other hand, installation and documentation are outdated and an obstacle to the propagation of the software. It is unlikely and not advisable that newcomers will start with plain musixtex, they should rather use the comfortable preprocessors. However, these must still be installed separately and I heard of several unexperienced people that were unable to install them. Furthermore, the distributors of TeX systems (mikTeX, teTeX) had often outdated packages that made it necessary to install musixTeX on a local directory. In my opinion, it would improve installation of the package considerably if we offered to CTAN a complete and updated package that contains all necessary components for typesetting music, including the preprocessors. They can then integrate fully into the main TeX directory system. The benefits are obvious: for most operating systems, installation would be done automatically as a package of TeX and users would not have to bother. First of all, this requires that all authors of the different new components agree with this policy. Secondly, we should decide which components should additionally go into the package. All additional macro files offered in WIMA are short and can be incorporated into the macro package without problem. There are already some special macros in the musixtex collection which are rarely used. On the other hand, there are some separate macro packages which are called in most calls to musixtex, e.g. musixmad, which could preferentially be incorporated into musixtex.tex. More of a problem are the executables. I suggest that one offers binaries for windows and linux-i*86; for all other systems one has to add the program sources for compiling, if possible, as C programs. After we agree about the new package, it would be possible to replace the complicated and then obsolete installation instructions and clean up the now rather complex software catalogue. Your opinion, please. Christof -- Prof. Dr. Christof K. Biebricher Max-Planck-Institute for Biophysical Chemistry D-37070 Göttingen Tel: +49 (551) 201 1442 FAX: +49 (551) 201 1578 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]___ TeX-music mailing list TeX-music@icking-music-archive.org http://icking-music-archive.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
RE: [TeX-music] triplets in pmx
On Tue, 4 Apr 2006, Don Simons wrote: Sonja-- If you are using PMX, then at all costs, you should avoid doing anything that requires you to edit the TeX file directly. The reason is that every time you want to change or edit ANYTHING in the PMX, you'll then have to re-edit the TeX file. That's why I went to the trouble of enabling four different ways of entering inline TeX into a PMX file. Please try to figure out a way to do what you want from within the PMX file. Sometimes it is not possible. I admit that I have used post-editing TeX files quite often. While I agree that it is important not to use it while creating the raw music, I rename the pmx file after it has done its duty to avoid an accidental overwriting of the TeX-file and edit then the tex file. Goudimel's psalter in WIMA has been typeset in this way. Christof ___ TeX-music mailing list TeX-music@icking-music-archive.org http://icking-music-archive.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Hide a staff
On Fri, 24 Feb 2006, Andre Van Ryckeghem wrote:
- use the pmx commands for the page hight en width:
'w280m h205m'
\voffset=-08mm\hoffset=-5mm\
- change interstaff
\\\interstaff{14}\
- change the margins
\\\def\atnextline{\stafftopmarg4\Interligne}\
It may be further necessary to remove all page formatting
commands intruduced by
pmx. I have an editor macro that edits them routinely out of
the tex files beforing TeXing. In my experience, pmx resists
rather subbornly to formatting wishes.
Christof
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Re: [TeX-music] MusiXTeX HOWTO for unix
Dear Christian: The HOWTO is correct, thank you. The installation of type1 fonts has changed somewhat, but I do not know whether we need a correction: in the README of the type1 fonts is recommended to put the map files to the directory $TEXMFMAIN/dvips/config/. In my present distribution, SuSE 10.0, the map files are located in $TEXMFMAIN/fonts/map/. I hesitate to recommend a correction unless I know that this change occurred on recommendation of CTAN. I know that the location of the configuration files are different in the different distributions. SuSE has them in /etc/texmf/. Furthermore, your installation expects that the user has the priviledge to write to /usr/local/. Best regards, Christof -- Prof. Dr. Christof K. Biebricher Max-Planck-Institute for Biophysical Chemistry D-37070 Göttingen Tel: +49 (551) 201 1442 FAX: +49 (551) 201 1578 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]___ TeX-music mailing list TeX-music@icking-music-archive.org http://icking-music-archive.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] MusiXTeX HOWTO for unix
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006, Robin Fairbairns wrote: no: we don't make recommendations like that. the change came from the tds group, who're as near to a standards body as tex systems get. TeX is indeed quite standardized. At home, my computer has windows and linux partitions. Nevertheless, I have the TeX- fonts, macros, maps only once on the hard disk. My linux system takes them all from the mikTeX installation of the Windows partition and needs only separate executables for linux. The different TeX databases for both systems reside in the same directories and do not harm one another. Christof ___ TeX-music mailing list TeX-music@icking-music-archive.org http://icking-music-archive.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Page numbers
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005, Anna Choma wrote: I've tried to switch off the numbers and remove pageno from theese definitions (I've put them to the score of course). Without success. Sorry for disturbing you with such problems, but I write usually the title, composer with the musixsty.tex. Should I remove \number or For writing title, composer, tempo etc. you do not need latex. If you do not write an article wich contains some notes in a a lot of text, avoid using latex, as recommended in the manuals and use plain tex instead. \nopagenumbers will then work. Christof ___ TeX-music mailing list TeX-music@icking-music-archive.org http://icking-music-archive.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Strange Pmx errors - Werner-Icking Kunst der Fuge
On Sun, 9 Oct 2005, A.H.Gilbert wrote: I took the file into a hex editor and removed all 0ds. It then processed OK. The reqired kfsqpmx.tex file is in the zip pack kfur.zip which is a compendium of Bach fugues, transcribed by Werner, in the archive. There are many 0ds are in the zip file. Should unzip have removed them? Yes. I packed the files, but I am a linux user. Use unzip -a to convert it for the proper operating system. Christof ___ TeX-music mailing list TeX-music@icking-music-archive.org http://icking-music-archive.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Hanging slur
On Wed, 25 May 2005, Dirk Laurie wrote:
Neil Killeen skryf:
On compiling this source (MTx 0.53F, PMX 2.4) I get a warning
about a hanging slur. It's to do with the tie across the second and third
bars in the upper voice.
Despite this, the notes seem to typeset ok. However, the lyric gets
confused. There should be one 'Ah' per slur (bar).
But instead the second 'Ah' goes on forever...
In the meantime M-Tx 0.60 has appeared. I'm happy to report that there
is no warning, and there does start another slur in bar 4. Not in bar 3,
though, and I respectfully submit that M-Tx does the logical thing here:
there is a tie still going on. Maybe you want the previous slur to end
after the tie.
Furthermore, you should convert your ties to { }; then there is no mixing up.
Christof
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Re: Letters for pitches (was RE: [TeX-music] Three voices in one note line with PMX - I can't get it ;-)
On Thu, 19 May 2005, Don Simons wrote: thought you were taking into account the way TeX was going to change the octave. As you can see, PMX is still confused about the default directions of the stems; that's because it still thinks it's putting the notes much lower. The moral of this story is: Don't use letters for pitches in in-line TeX. I know that you can't then easily transpose the resulting score. All I can say about that is that I'm sorry, if you want that much flexibility, then go spend $500 for Finale. Dear Don: many of us were attracted to PMX less by determent from Sibelius and Finale by the stiff fees than by the quality of the PMX-musixtex sets. But I would also make a comment: in the past I had to use quite often editing of the resulting tex-file because certain features were not yet available in pmx. Musixtex gives you an enormous flexibility and allows almost anything; still, the time saving by creating the crude tex file by using PMX is tremendous. Of course once one has started to modify the tex file, it does not make sense to improve the setting by processing via PMX, but one has to debug the tex file directly. It is thus a good idea to debug throroughly before starting editing the tex file. By the way, transposition is still possible on the musixtex level. In the last year, I can not remember to have had to use post-editing; the reason is that all my wishes in regard of features were incorporated into PMX, and they were quite numerous. Thank you for improving PMX in the last years to do almost anything. Christof ___ TeX-music mailing list TeX-music@icking-music-archive.org http://icking-music-archive.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] installation problem
On Thu, 12 May 2005, Quinten wrote:
When I use WinEdt to 'run'
\input musixtex
\parindent10mm
\setname1{Piano} \setstaffs12 \generalmeter{\meterfrac44}
\nobarnumbers \startextract \Notes\ibu0f0\qb0{cge}\tbu0\qb0g|\hl
j\en \Notes\ibu0f0\qb0{cge}\tbu0\qb0g|\ql l\sk\ql n\en \bar
\Notes\ibu0f0\qb0{dgf}|\qlp i\en
\notes\tbu0\qb0g|\ibbl1j3\qb1j\tbl1\qb1k\en
\Notes\ibu0f0\qb0{cge}\tbu0\qb0g|\hl j\en
\endextract
\end
I get the error:
This is e-TeX, Version 3.141592-2.2 (MiKTeX 2.4) (preloaded
format=latex 2005.3.28) 11 MAY 2005 11:21
entering extended mode
**test.tex
(test.tex
LaTeX2e 2003/12/01
Here is the problem. Apparently WinEdt uses latex format for processing
the file. Musixtex, however, wants plain TeX. You have to change the macro
for Tex-processing in WinEdt. Since I am not using it myself I can not help.
Christof
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Re: [TeX-music] Clef change
tenor clef. Likewise, one needs a change sign also within the peace ^ Sorry, I meant of course piece! ___ TeX-music mailing list TeX-music@icking-music-archive.org http://icking-music-archive.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] PMX Beta 2.505: New option for default rest positions in 2-voice staves
On Sat, 13 Nov 2004, Don Simons wrote: I've just uploaded a new beta to http://icking-music-archive.org/software/pmx/pmx2505.zip Thank you, Don. There is still a big wish on my list, which I mentioned already some years ago. Polyphonic organ music very frequently demands that a key is not re-touched if it is the same like the previous one in another voice. In the old music, it is usually left to the judgement of the player whether to re-touch or not, but since 1800 it is noted by ties. With musixtex, this is not a problem: A tie begun in one voice may end in another. In pmx, however, this is not possible, but results in a unfinished tie. I have no idea how difficult it would be to make it possible that sX say in soprano may end with sX in the alto voice, but it certainly would save me a lot of post-editing the tex file. One always has wishes... On the other hand, I am very satisfied with pmx, it saves an incredible amount of time. 99% of what I type will not land in the archive because it is for the daily needs of a practitioner... Regards, Christof ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://icking-music-archive.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
RE: [TeX-music] pmx chords in xtuplet with F, dotted xtuplex
On Sat, 30 Oct 2004, Don Simons wrote: I put in the F option at Werner's request, because Bach used it somewhere and Werner wanted to reproduce Bach's rhythmic notation. I've never come across it in any other context. I respect Bach a great deal, but in fact the F notation is ambiguous and unnecessary. What rhythm is really intended, for example by a44x3F a ? Is the shorter note to be 1/2 or 1/3 the length of the longer one? PMX has unambiguous notations for both of those: a44x3D a and a84.a . I suppose the shorter note might be intended to be 1/5 the duration of the longer one, and PMX doesn't have a special notation for that, but that's pretty far-fetched. Werner and I wanted that feature for the Urtext edition of the Kunst der Fuge. As Don states, the notation is obsolete and ambiguous and is not recommended for use. The reason we wanted it is its very ambiguity. Since Urtext means as close as possible to the original, we did not want to `interprete' the text by converting it to modern notation. Unfortunately, one cannot evade some interpretation. In Bach's original notation the punctuated note is clearly aligned with the third note of the triolet, while pmx normally aligns it after the third note. That was the reason why Werner wanted it. He did not live to have it introduced into the Kunst der Fuge; I introduced it posthumously as Don made the feature available. By no means, this feature is recommended for use in modern notation. Christof ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://icking-music-archive.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] M-Tx/PMX: Tweaking distance between grace note and main note
On Tue, 26 Oct 2004, Christian Mondrup wrote: main note not only the main note is offset but also the preceding grace note. Can I do what I want with 'plain PMX' ? Part of the problem comes from the opposite direction of the stems. Gsxle looks acceptable to me. Christof ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://icking-music-archive.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [TeX-music] Ped. k
On Tue, 27 Jul 2004, Stefan Svensson wrote: Not being an organ player, what does + Ped. k and - Ped. k mean? It is not standard, but often means in German `Pedalkoppel an/ ab'. If nothing else is written, `Tirasse' is meant, i.e. coupling of great and pedal. Christof ___ TeX-music mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://icking-music-archive.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-music
Re: [Tex-music] strange result with MTX, now with attachments
On Tue, 17 Feb 2004, Francois Planiol-Auger wrote:
Here it is now
The only mistake I found was the invocation of a macro that did
not exist. If you write
Title: {\names FPA}
all works fine.
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