[Texascavers] for rent!!

[Oscar Berrones]

South Austin Duplex for rent to the caving world

who in the world wouldn't want to have  Don  Cooper  or   Vico as a  
neighbor.

Call Bombon or Lucille for details.


$600  / 1br - Duplex in Great Location (3103 Burleson Rd)

No shared walls, loaded with shelving and cabinets, CACH, ceiling  
fans, hardwood floors, separate utility room with desk space, covered  
parking, walk to UT shuttle, restaurants, bike to downtown. Ready to  
lease in March.

Call or email: 512-443-3139.

[Texascavers] apes in underwater caves

[Mixon Bill]

Hey, people, as was pointed out, that was just (alleged) poetry.  
Modern poetry is not _supposed_ to make sense, especially any coming  
out of colleges. It's not supposed to rhyme or scan, either. Any  
contemporary poetry you're likely to come across makes "There once was  
a man from Nantucket/..." seem like a classic of English literature.-- 
Mixon

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[ot_caving] Ladybugs

[Don Cooper]

I hope there are enough "cavers" who read this section, that it might
encompass someone who knows these things
But I am wondering what "media" or "environment" it is that suits
Ladybugs.   My new domain (rented duplex next door to Cammy and Vico Jones)
has a minor infestation of ladybugs - at least in the bathroom.   I cannot
tell where they are coming from - I think from around the edges of the
bathroom window (ie. from somewhere in the innards of the structure) - this
morning while taking a nice long hot bath I counted seven of them - all
around the window, apparently trying to escape.
I understand they are beneficial insects.  (I try not to harm any of them or
the little jumping spiders that hang around.)
They are somewhat interesting.  I had not realized before that their spots
are not uniformly issued - some have none.  (I'm assuming they are all from
the same "family" and not multiple species or varieties.)
-WaV

Re: [Texascavers] Barack Obama a caver?

[Don Cooper]

Now we're really getting off the subject of caving, but...
I imagine that a chimp could learn to swim.  Its hard for me to tell if I
"learned" to swim, but it does not seem like a built-in set of reflexes came
into play.  Apes are so closely approximate to our own bodies - I cant see
anything that would keep them from swimming - aside from freaking out by
being in such an inappropriate environment.
-WaV

On Feb 19, 2008 6:49 PM, Corky  wrote:

> Apes cannot swim, monkeys can though. Perhaps the confusion was on
> Barack's part, not yours.
> Corky
>
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[Texascavers] Camp Eagle Ridge Walk Opportunity

[O'Bryan, Lisa Renee]

I am posting an email from the director of camp eagle. To respond please email 
him at the address he provides at the end of the email. 
~Lisa


For Immediate Release!

Texas Cavers,

Camp Eagle is hosting a ridge-walking event this April 18-20.  Through some 
interesting circumstances, our cave potential, and the advice of many cave 
minded people, we have been prompted to host a ridge-walking event.  Camp Eagle 
is a summer camp, retreat center and premier adventure destination located on 
1400 acres in the Texas Hill Country right at the headwaters of the Nueces 
River.  We are located a few miles or less from many local caves, such as: 
Poppy Cave, Red Arrow Cave, Devils Sinkhole, Blue Hole a large spring, and 
other un-registered and un-mapped small caves.  However, none of these caves 
are on our property and we are going to look for one.  
 
A few grottos have been contacted in Texas and they have expressed significant 
interest in coming out.  We as Camp Eagle are interested in learning more and 
having many groups of cavers come together for a fun time, networking, 
ridge-walking, and to help us out.  We are making available: hostel-style 
lodging for up to 100 people, camping sites with a bathhouse, our trails, 
waterfront, our beautiful property, cliffs, coffee shop, small kitchen, etc for 
this event.  We are looking for this to be a very laid back sort of thing with 
lots of room for adventure.  The cost is free, with the exception of short 
order meals for those interested.  

One interesting thing that prompted the start of all this were two reports of a 
found cave on our property from two unrelated group of hikers and adventure 
racers.  The last group said they closed off the entrance due to the unstable 
look of the ceiling.  Further investigation has shown some good signs of a cave 
but nothing for sure.  

Basically, we as the staff of Camp Eagle no very little about caves and looking 
for one but are very interested in learning more and possibly finding one on 
our property.  

If you are interested and would like more information please contact me and 
check us out on the web.  Thanks.



Matt Reed
Camp Eagle
Retreats Director
830.683.2330
m...@campeagle.org
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Re: [Texascavers] Barack Obama a caver?

[Corky]

Apes cannot swim, monkeys can though. Perhaps the confusion was on 
Barack's part, not yours.

Corky

David wrote:

I am confused.

How do the apes eat figs and howl in an "underwater grotto?"

David Locklear

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Re: [Texascavers] Barack Obama a caver?

[Katherine Arens]

Even worse -- all these questions are answered in H. P. Lovecraft, 
who has caves with apes eating anc being eaten by odd things . . ..

-katie

I suspect he's no caver.  certainly he's no poet.

Jin Evatt

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From: David
To: Texas Cavers
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 10:41 AM
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Barack Obama a caver?

I am confused.

How do the apes eat figs and howl in an "underwater grotto?"

David Locklear

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Re: [ot_caving] Vinyl is good but...

[Don Cooper]

I totally have to disagree with the idea of buying an external device to
accomplish this feat.

I mean, I did it with only a very good turntable, a decent preamplifier and
a computer containing a fairly good sound card.   The results were
indistinguishable from the original.  Most new sound cards are capable of
converting audio into digital at a rate of 50Khz with 24bit resolution -
settings I made the recordings with.  (42Khz at 16 bit is quite enough to do
it)

The "bad guys" who want to control everything you do, digitally, with any
copywrited material
would like ALL Analog to Digital converter devices - essentially -
"outlawed" or hobbled to the extent that you could not exercise your
technological abilities to do such...

-WaV

On Feb 19, 2008 9:24 AM, David  wrote:

> About 6 years ago, I reported on Cavetex that I had copied
> some of my vinyl LP's onto my computer's hard-drive using
>
> a free program I had found on the internet.
>
>http://www.audiograbber.com-us.net/
>
> Unfortunately, I never used it much after that.
>
> There are many ways now to get your music off of an old LP
> and into your IPOD or other gadget.   Supposedly, the
> trick in getting a good sound transfer is to not use a
> computer, but to either purchase a $ 500 TEAC CD-LP
> recorder, or purchase an "external" sound card and a really
> good turntable.
>
> The cheapest route seems to be the download above,
> plus a cheap turntable, and a pre-amp going into your
> computers sound card.
>
> I still think it could be a lot easier, such as straight from
> the LP to your portable gadget.  I believe the old Sony
> Walkman Mini-disc recorder had that capability, but I
> never confirmed it.
>
> I imagine by now, nearly every song that has ever been
> recorded is now available for purchase on-line, but that
> wasn't the case 5 years ago.I would also think that
> in a few years, the prices on some of those songs will
> be more reasonable. Who wants to pay 99 cents for
> "Disco Duck" or the Jim Nabors smash hit?
>
> David Locklear
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Re: [Texascavers] Barack Obama a caver?

[Jim Evatt]

I suspect he's no caver.  certainly he's no poet.

Jin Evatt
  - Original Message - 
  From: David 
  To: Texas Cavers 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 10:41 AM
  Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Barack Obama a caver?


  I am confused.

  How do the apes eat figs and howl in an "underwater grotto?"

  David Locklear

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[Texascavers] call for AMCS magazine material

[Mixon Bill]

The deadline for material for AMCS Activities Newsletter 31, to be  
published in June, will be April 15, 2008. Articles are sought on all  
significant exploration or research activities in Mexican caves. Short  
notes for the "Mexico News" section are also welcome. Articles should  
be accompanied by all available maps and may include photos. News  
notes may also include a map or photo.


Submission may be made by e-mail to edi...@amcs-pubs.org. Material may  
also be sent on paper to Bill Mixon, 14045 North Green Hills Loop,  
Austin, Texas 78737.





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[Texascavers] BBC cave movie

[David]

iTunes will soon have BBC movies available
for download.  Maybe the cave chapter of the Planet Series
will be one of those.

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RE: [Texascavers] Barack Obama a caver?

[RD Milhollin]

Come on, it's poetry... how do the figs eat the apes?

-Original Message-
From: David [mailto:dlocklea...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 11:42 AM
To: Texas Cavers
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Barack Obama a caver?


I am confused.

How do the apes eat figs and howl in an "underwater grotto?"

David Locklear

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Re: [Texascavers] Barack Obama a caver?

[David]

I am confused.

How do the apes eat figs and howl in an "underwater grotto?"

David Locklear

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RE: [Texascavers] Barack Obama a caver?

[Louise Power]

Well apparently not a caver in Texas.> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:05:00 -0600> 
From: txwo...@texas.net> To: texascavers@texascavers.com> Subject: 
[Texascavers] Barack Obama a caver?> > The June 29th, 2007 issue of "The New 
Yorker" magazine contains an > article about the presidential candidate, Barack 
Obama. In 1981 the > literary magazine "Feast," produced at Occidental College, 
published two > of his poems. One is cave related:> > UNDERGROUND> > Underwater 
grottos, caverns> Filled with apes> That eat figs.> Stepping on the figs> That 
the apes> Eat, they crunch.> The apes howl, bare> Their fangs, dance,> Tumble 
in the> Rushing water,> Musty wet pelts glistening in the blue.> > > -Ernie 
Garza> > -> 
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[Texascavers] Barack Obama a caver?

[Ernest Garza]

The June 29th, 2007 issue of "The New Yorker" magazine contains an 
article about the presidential candidate, Barack Obama. In 1981 the 
literary magazine "Feast," produced at Occidental College, published two 
of his poems. One is cave related:


UNDERGROUND

Underwater grottos, caverns
Filled with apes
That eat figs.
Stepping on the figs
That the apes
Eat, they crunch.
The apes howl, bare
Their fangs, dance,
Tumble in the
Rushing water,
Musty wet pelts glistening in the blue.


-Ernie Garza

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[ot_caving] high definition video disc

[David]

Toshiba announced today the end of their version of
"High-Definition DVD."

If I were them, I would sell the technology to a small niche
company, that could market HD-DVD into portable
movie devices, like the Portable Playstation.

For example, something similar to the VideoNow product , or a
slim-portable DVD player with a small screen, similar to the Casio DVD
player. And to possibly
use 3" disc.

One of the problems with that idea however, is that high definition
really only looks better on the bigger screens.They could always
make a TV-out connection on the gadget.

Anyways, it is likely that Blu-ray is going to sell a lot better now.Don't
you wish you had some stock in that?

David Locklear

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Re: [ot_caving] Vinyl is good but...

[David]

About 6 years ago, I reported on Cavetex that I had copied
some of my vinyl LP's onto my computer's hard-drive using

a free program I had found on the internet.

http://www.audiograbber.com-us.net/

Unfortunately, I never used it much after that.

There are many ways now to get your music off of an old LP
and into your IPOD or other gadget.   Supposedly, the
trick in getting a good sound transfer is to not use a
computer, but to either purchase a $ 500 TEAC CD-LP
recorder, or purchase an "external" sound card and a really
good turntable.

The cheapest route seems to be the download above,
plus a cheap turntable, and a pre-amp going into your
computers sound card.

I still think it could be a lot easier, such as straight from
the LP to your portable gadget.  I believe the old Sony
Walkman Mini-disc recorder had that capability, but I
never confirmed it.

I imagine by now, nearly every song that has ever been
recorded is now available for purchase on-line, but that
wasn't the case 5 years ago.I would also think that
in a few years, the prices on some of those songs will
be more reasonable. Who wants to pay 99 cents for
"Disco Duck" or the Jim Nabors smash hit?

David Locklear

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[Texascavers] OT mini retreat: yoga, meditation, journaling for women

[Nancy Weaver]

Upon hearing that I just completed a yoga teacher training course, 
Jocie Hooper asked me to consider leading a half day women's yoga, 
meditation and vision quest journaling retreat at my home in 
Driftwood.  She was so enthusiastic that I have decided to schedule 
one for either a saturday or sunday in March or early April.  Jocie 
has a conflict on the weekend of March 29th and  April19 (Sat).  So I 
am considering either the weekend of March 15, 16 or April 5,6 or 
12,13.  It can be either saturday or sunday, depending on what works 
best for the most people interested.


I am thinking of 4 hours, say 10 - 2,  with a light potluck lunch. 
We could have several hours of yoga practice interspersed with breath 
work, guided meditation, lunch and some journaling practices.  I 
think a reasonable cost would be $30.


If you are interested in being on a one time email notification list, 
with no commitment to come,  please contact me.  Feel free to pass 
this on to any women you know that you think would enjoy it.
We'll work out a day best suited for those interested.  I feel 
comfortable with a group of up to 10 women.


namaste (from my heart to yours)
Nancy

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[Texascavers] Anthony Bourdain Goes Caving on the Travel Channel

[mark . alman]

 
Anyone catch the irreverent travel host and world renowned foodie on the
Travel Channel last night?
 
He went caving in Jamaica and, from all appearances, had a miserable
time.
 
Part of the problem may be that his intrepid guides had him wearing
tennis shoes into a muddy cave, no gloves or knee pads, trekking thru
jungle with 200% humidity, 
and he seemed particularly concerned about "anal invading parasites".
 
Can't blame him on the latter point!
 
He will eat the most gosh awful food (watch the Namibia episode to watch
him partake of a certain delicacy from the back end of a warthog to see
what I mean),
but I wouldn't count on him making any Grotto meetings.
 
If you missed it, they're running it again on Feb. 23rd at 1 PM.
 
Set them DVR's!
 
 
Later,
 
Mark
 
 
 

Re: [Texascavers] Last Saturday Night Party Notice

[Don Cooper]

Anyone else interested?
I have to work until midnight - but I'm always up for a party!
-w@VY

On Feb 18, 2008 1:42 PM,  wrote:

> The second TCC Winter Conference will start this Friday. The
> conference will run February 22-24, 2008 at Cedar Park, Texas.  Caving and
> camping will be available for those coming in early.  When you arrive. stop
> by the TCC Headquarters for information on parking and camping.  We now have
> 25 wood mulch tent pads but they may be hard to locate in the dark.  Each of
> them has a red flag in the middle of the tent pad. We even have lights and a
> shower in the campground. Please park on the far side of the big rocks at
> the end of Park Street.  The camping area starts at the end of Park Street
> with tent pads along the path to the main camp area.
>
> Saturday Night Party-TCC Headquarters  Meal & Party
>
> We often say that new cavers are important to us. This is our chance to
> prove it. The TCC Winter Conference is set up for new cavers to go on tours,
> workshops and caves.  Bring your new cavers or just show up and help them
> learn what caving is about.
>
>
> FRIDAY -   Caving – Camping
> SATURDAY-   Breakfast-Tours-Workshops-Tours-Caving- Saturday Night
> Meal –Party
> SUNDAY-   Breakfast-Caving
>
> Ronnie Fiesler will be the guest speaker.  Tall Tales of Texas or Caves of
> our Lives!
>
> Join us at:
>
> TCC Headquarters
> 1800 West Park
> Cedar Park, Texas
>
> 512-249-2283
>
> For additional information e-mail:  tcc-ca...@austin.rr.com and we will
> send you the mail out by e-mail.
>
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