RE: [Texascavers] weather

2012-04-03 Thread Butch Fralia
This should be public, this is a photo from my patio and I said it was quiet
here.

https://www.facebook.com/#!/photo.php?fbid=2550724187222&set=a.2380473251055
.86723.1827398679&type=1&theater¬if_t=photo_comment

Butch


-Original Message-
From: Logan McNatt [mailto:lmcn...@austin.rr.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 4:23 PM
To: Diana Tomchick
Cc: Cave Tex
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] weather

Photos, Videos?



On 4/3/2012 4:04 PM, Diana Tomchick wrote:
> Picture a whole campus of Ph.D. scientists and M.D.s, clustered around the
outer windows of 13-story buildings watching the weather roll in from the SW
(Arlington area) and passing over Love Field to then on to the NE. It was a
rare chance to spend 45 minutes watching nature and gossiping about all
sorts of subjects.
>
> We don't need no stinking storm shelter!
>
> Diana
>
> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> Diana R. Tomchick
> Professor
> University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center
> Department of Biochemistry
> 5323 Harry Hines Blvd.
> Rm. ND10.214B
> Dallas, TX 75390-8816, U.S.A.
> Email: diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu
> 214-645-6383 (phone)
> 214-645-6353 (fax)
>
>
>
>
> On Apr 3, 2012, at 3:52 PM, Charles Goldsmith wrote:
>
>> So far all of the damage is Arlington and Forney with a small bit in
>> north Addison from what we are told.  My work evacuated us to storm
>> shelters for about an hour today.
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Karen Perry  wrote:
>>> Hope all in DFW area are OK. Sounds like its bad
>>> Karen
>> -
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RE: [Texascavers] weather

2012-04-03 Thread Butch Fralia
This should be public, this is a photo from my patio and I said it was quiet
here.

https://www.facebook.com/#!/photo.php?fbid=2550724187222&set=a.2380473251055
.86723.1827398679&type=1&theater¬if_t=photo_comment

Butch


-Original Message-
From: Logan McNatt [mailto:lmcn...@austin.rr.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 4:23 PM
To: Diana Tomchick
Cc: Cave Tex
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] weather

Photos, Videos?



On 4/3/2012 4:04 PM, Diana Tomchick wrote:
> Picture a whole campus of Ph.D. scientists and M.D.s, clustered around the
outer windows of 13-story buildings watching the weather roll in from the SW
(Arlington area) and passing over Love Field to then on to the NE. It was a
rare chance to spend 45 minutes watching nature and gossiping about all
sorts of subjects.
>
> We don't need no stinking storm shelter!
>
> Diana
>
> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> Diana R. Tomchick
> Professor
> University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center
> Department of Biochemistry
> 5323 Harry Hines Blvd.
> Rm. ND10.214B
> Dallas, TX 75390-8816, U.S.A.
> Email: diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu
> 214-645-6383 (phone)
> 214-645-6353 (fax)
>
>
>
>
> On Apr 3, 2012, at 3:52 PM, Charles Goldsmith wrote:
>
>> So far all of the damage is Arlington and Forney with a small bit in
>> north Addison from what we are told.  My work evacuated us to storm
>> shelters for about an hour today.
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Karen Perry  wrote:
>>> Hope all in DFW area are OK. Sounds like its bad
>>> Karen
>> -
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RE: [Texascavers] weather

2012-04-03 Thread Butch Fralia
This should be public, this is a photo from my patio and I said it was quiet
here.

https://www.facebook.com/#!/photo.php?fbid=2550724187222&set=a.2380473251055
.86723.1827398679&type=1&theater¬if_t=photo_comment

Butch


-Original Message-
From: Logan McNatt [mailto:lmcn...@austin.rr.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 4:23 PM
To: Diana Tomchick
Cc: Cave Tex
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] weather

Photos, Videos?



On 4/3/2012 4:04 PM, Diana Tomchick wrote:
> Picture a whole campus of Ph.D. scientists and M.D.s, clustered around the
outer windows of 13-story buildings watching the weather roll in from the SW
(Arlington area) and passing over Love Field to then on to the NE. It was a
rare chance to spend 45 minutes watching nature and gossiping about all
sorts of subjects.
>
> We don't need no stinking storm shelter!
>
> Diana
>
> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> Diana R. Tomchick
> Professor
> University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center
> Department of Biochemistry
> 5323 Harry Hines Blvd.
> Rm. ND10.214B
> Dallas, TX 75390-8816, U.S.A.
> Email: diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu
> 214-645-6383 (phone)
> 214-645-6353 (fax)
>
>
>
>
> On Apr 3, 2012, at 3:52 PM, Charles Goldsmith wrote:
>
>> So far all of the damage is Arlington and Forney with a small bit in
>> north Addison from what we are told.  My work evacuated us to storm
>> shelters for about an hour today.
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Karen Perry  wrote:
>>> Hope all in DFW area are OK. Sounds like its bad
>>> Karen
>> -
>> Visit our website: http://texascavers.com
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RE: [Texascavers] weather

2012-04-03 Thread Butch Fralia
Don't forget that nice tornado throwing trailers around at the truck yard in
Lanchester.

All good in SW FTW.

Butch


-Original Message-
From: Charles Goldsmith [mailto:wo...@justfamily.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 3:52 PM
To: Karen Perry
Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] weather

So far all of the damage is Arlington and Forney with a small bit in
north Addison from what we are told.  My work evacuated us to storm
shelters for about an hour today.

On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Karen Perry  wrote:
> Hope all in DFW area are OK. Sounds like its bad
> Karen

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RE: [Texascavers] weather

2012-04-03 Thread Butch Fralia
Don't forget that nice tornado throwing trailers around at the truck yard in
Lanchester.

All good in SW FTW.

Butch


-Original Message-
From: Charles Goldsmith [mailto:wo...@justfamily.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 3:52 PM
To: Karen Perry
Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] weather

So far all of the damage is Arlington and Forney with a small bit in
north Addison from what we are told.  My work evacuated us to storm
shelters for about an hour today.

On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Karen Perry  wrote:
> Hope all in DFW area are OK. Sounds like its bad
> Karen

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RE: [Texascavers] weather

2012-04-03 Thread Butch Fralia
Don't forget that nice tornado throwing trailers around at the truck yard in
Lanchester.

All good in SW FTW.

Butch


-Original Message-
From: Charles Goldsmith [mailto:wo...@justfamily.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 3:52 PM
To: Karen Perry
Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] weather

So far all of the damage is Arlington and Forney with a small bit in
north Addison from what we are told.  My work evacuated us to storm
shelters for about an hour today.

On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Karen Perry  wrote:
> Hope all in DFW area are OK. Sounds like its bad
> Karen

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Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo

2012-04-03 Thread Bill Bentley
Pretty much the same only younger, and with more hair!...
  - Original Message - 
  From: jen . 
  To: s...@caver.net 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 1:50 PM
  Subject: Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo



  I forwarded on to Frank.  I thought it looked like Sam Bono, but he didn't 
respond to my email yet.  


  I agree that it looks like the 90's in that photo. But then I don't really 
know what 80's cavers looked like.

  Jen



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  From: mbi...@blm.gov
  To: lstarr...@gmail.com; s...@caver.net
  Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 09:52:55 -0600
  Subject: Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo

  Trying to enlarge that on a Blackberry blurs it out too fast. So, in a 
brilliant combination of new and old technology (I bought a magnifying glass), 
yep - a wheatlamp and what appear to be Bomber Gear kneepads - possibly from 
the BLM cache. The big guy in the back looks like Frank Everitt but still 
couldn't zero in enough. I don't have Frank's email on this device so if anyone 
has the current, please forward to him and ask him to confirm yea or nay to 
Linda.
   

  From: Linda Starr [mailto:lstarr...@gmail.com] 
  Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 12:09 AM
  To: Southwestern Region  
  Subject: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo 
   

  Hi All,
   This photo is being used in the Lincoln Caverns Discovery story written 
by Lee Skinner for the 50th Anniversary Memoir booklet. Does anyone out there 
recognize this photo and know who the people are and what year this was taken?
   Let me know if you know anything about it.

  Linda Starr


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Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo

2012-04-03 Thread Bill Bentley
Pretty much the same only younger, and with more hair!...
  - Original Message - 
  From: jen . 
  To: s...@caver.net 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 1:50 PM
  Subject: Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo



  I forwarded on to Frank.  I thought it looked like Sam Bono, but he didn't 
respond to my email yet.  


  I agree that it looks like the 90's in that photo. But then I don't really 
know what 80's cavers looked like.

  Jen



--
  From: mbi...@blm.gov
  To: lstarr...@gmail.com; s...@caver.net
  Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 09:52:55 -0600
  Subject: Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo

  Trying to enlarge that on a Blackberry blurs it out too fast. So, in a 
brilliant combination of new and old technology (I bought a magnifying glass), 
yep - a wheatlamp and what appear to be Bomber Gear kneepads - possibly from 
the BLM cache. The big guy in the back looks like Frank Everitt but still 
couldn't zero in enough. I don't have Frank's email on this device so if anyone 
has the current, please forward to him and ask him to confirm yea or nay to 
Linda.
   

  From: Linda Starr [mailto:lstarr...@gmail.com] 
  Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 12:09 AM
  To: Southwestern Region  
  Subject: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo 
   

  Hi All,
   This photo is being used in the Lincoln Caverns Discovery story written 
by Lee Skinner for the 50th Anniversary Memoir booklet. Does anyone out there 
recognize this photo and know who the people are and what year this was taken?
   Let me know if you know anything about it.

  Linda Starr


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Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo

2012-04-03 Thread Bill Bentley
Pretty much the same only younger, and with more hair!...
  - Original Message - 
  From: jen . 
  To: s...@caver.net 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 1:50 PM
  Subject: Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo



  I forwarded on to Frank.  I thought it looked like Sam Bono, but he didn't 
respond to my email yet.  


  I agree that it looks like the 90's in that photo. But then I don't really 
know what 80's cavers looked like.

  Jen



--
  From: mbi...@blm.gov
  To: lstarr...@gmail.com; s...@caver.net
  Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 09:52:55 -0600
  Subject: Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo

  Trying to enlarge that on a Blackberry blurs it out too fast. So, in a 
brilliant combination of new and old technology (I bought a magnifying glass), 
yep - a wheatlamp and what appear to be Bomber Gear kneepads - possibly from 
the BLM cache. The big guy in the back looks like Frank Everitt but still 
couldn't zero in enough. I don't have Frank's email on this device so if anyone 
has the current, please forward to him and ask him to confirm yea or nay to 
Linda.
   

  From: Linda Starr [mailto:lstarr...@gmail.com] 
  Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 12:09 AM
  To: Southwestern Region  
  Subject: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo 
   

  Hi All,
   This photo is being used in the Lincoln Caverns Discovery story written 
by Lee Skinner for the 50th Anniversary Memoir booklet. Does anyone out there 
recognize this photo and know who the people are and what year this was taken?
   Let me know if you know anything about it.

  Linda Starr


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[Texascavers] FW: Ashland Resource Area Assistant Job -

2012-04-03 Thread Louise Power

Hi All, 
 
If you know of anybody who would like to work in SW Oregon (we do have 
mountains, rivers, amazing wildlife, caves and other kinds outdoor activities), 
check out this job announcement. You don't have to be a federal employee to 
win. Please feel free to pass this on to anyone who might be interested. For a 
federal agency, this one is pretty good to work for.
 
Louise
 



From: cpo...@blm.gov
To: power_lou...@hotmail.com
List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 14:32:28 -0600
Subject: FW: Ashland Resource Area Assistant Job - 






 
 


From: Gerritsma, John E 
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 1:05 PM
To: BLM_OR_MD_ALL
Subject: FW: Ashland Resource Area Assistant Job - 
 
I would appreciate helping spread the word on this vacancy.  This links to the 
DEU announcement.  It will also be flown as Merit.
 
 
John Gerritsma
Ashland Field Manager
Medford District
541-618-2438 (work)
541-944-7901 (cell)
 
 
 


From: Langhoff, James P 
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 11:27 AM
To: BLM_OR_MD_ASH
Subject: Ashland Resource Area Assistant Job - 
 
http://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/313315800
 
 
James Langhoff
541-618-2461
  

[Texascavers] FW: Ashland Resource Area Assistant Job -

2012-04-03 Thread Louise Power

Hi All, 
 
If you know of anybody who would like to work in SW Oregon (we do have 
mountains, rivers, amazing wildlife, caves and other kinds outdoor activities), 
check out this job announcement. You don't have to be a federal employee to 
win. Please feel free to pass this on to anyone who might be interested. For a 
federal agency, this one is pretty good to work for.
 
Louise
 



From: cpo...@blm.gov
To: power_lou...@hotmail.com
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 14:32:28 -0600
Subject: FW: Ashland Resource Area Assistant Job - 






 
 


From: Gerritsma, John E 
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 1:05 PM
To: BLM_OR_MD_ALL
Subject: FW: Ashland Resource Area Assistant Job - 
 
I would appreciate helping spread the word on this vacancy.  This links to the 
DEU announcement.  It will also be flown as Merit.
 
 
John Gerritsma
Ashland Field Manager
Medford District
541-618-2438 (work)
541-944-7901 (cell)
 
 
 


From: Langhoff, James P 
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 11:27 AM
To: BLM_OR_MD_ASH
Subject: Ashland Resource Area Assistant Job - 
 
http://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/313315800
 
 
James Langhoff
541-618-2461
  

[Texascavers] FW: Ashland Resource Area Assistant Job -

2012-04-03 Thread Louise Power

Hi All, 
 
If you know of anybody who would like to work in SW Oregon (we do have 
mountains, rivers, amazing wildlife, caves and other kinds outdoor activities), 
check out this job announcement. You don't have to be a federal employee to 
win. Please feel free to pass this on to anyone who might be interested. For a 
federal agency, this one is pretty good to work for.
 
Louise
 



From: cpo...@blm.gov
To: power_lou...@hotmail.com
List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 14:32:28 -0600
Subject: FW: Ashland Resource Area Assistant Job - 






 
 


From: Gerritsma, John E 
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 1:05 PM
To: BLM_OR_MD_ALL
Subject: FW: Ashland Resource Area Assistant Job - 
 
I would appreciate helping spread the word on this vacancy.  This links to the 
DEU announcement.  It will also be flown as Merit.
 
 
John Gerritsma
Ashland Field Manager
Medford District
541-618-2438 (work)
541-944-7901 (cell)
 
 
 


From: Langhoff, James P 
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 11:27 AM
To: BLM_OR_MD_ASH
Subject: Ashland Resource Area Assistant Job - 
 
http://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/313315800
 
 
James Langhoff
541-618-2461
  

Re: [Texascavers] weather

2012-04-03 Thread Diana Tomchick
Some of the best can be found on the Washington Post web site:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capital-weather-gang/post/tornado-emergency-in-dallas-ft-worth-area-two-confirmed-tornadoes/2012/04/03/gIQAMsnRtS_blog.html

If you must read the Dallas Morning News, here's a link:

http://thescoopblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2012/04/weather.html

Diana

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Diana R. Tomchick
Professor
University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center
Department of Biochemistry
5323 Harry Hines Blvd.
Rm. ND10.214B   
Dallas, TX 75390-8816, U.S.A. 
Email: diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu
214-645-6383 (phone)
214-645-6353 (fax)




On Apr 3, 2012, at 4:22 PM, Logan McNatt wrote:

> Photos, Videos?
> 
> 
> 
> On 4/3/2012 4:04 PM, Diana Tomchick wrote:
>> Picture a whole campus of Ph.D. scientists and M.D.s, clustered around the 
>> outer windows of 13-story buildings watching the weather roll in from the SW 
>> (Arlington area) and passing over Love Field to then on to the NE. It was a 
>> rare chance to spend 45 minutes watching nature and gossiping about all 
>> sorts of subjects.
>> 
>> We don't need no stinking storm shelter!
>> 
>> Diana
>> 
>> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
>> Diana R. Tomchick
>> Professor
>> University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center
>> Department of Biochemistry
>> 5323 Harry Hines Blvd.
>> Rm. ND10.214B
>> Dallas, TX 75390-8816, U.S.A.
>> Email: diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu
>> 214-645-6383 (phone)
>> 214-645-6353 (fax)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 3, 2012, at 3:52 PM, Charles Goldsmith wrote:
>> 
>>> So far all of the damage is Arlington and Forney with a small bit in
>>> north Addison from what we are told.  My work evacuated us to storm
>>> shelters for about an hour today.
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Karen Perry  wrote:
 Hope all in DFW area are OK. Sounds like its bad
 Karen
>>> -
>>> Visit our website: http://texascavers.com
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>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>> The future of medicine, today.
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Re: [Texascavers] weather

2012-04-03 Thread Diana Tomchick
Some of the best can be found on the Washington Post web site:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capital-weather-gang/post/tornado-emergency-in-dallas-ft-worth-area-two-confirmed-tornadoes/2012/04/03/gIQAMsnRtS_blog.html

If you must read the Dallas Morning News, here's a link:

http://thescoopblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2012/04/weather.html

Diana

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Diana R. Tomchick
Professor
University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center
Department of Biochemistry
5323 Harry Hines Blvd.
Rm. ND10.214B   
Dallas, TX 75390-8816, U.S.A. 
Email: diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu
214-645-6383 (phone)
214-645-6353 (fax)




On Apr 3, 2012, at 4:22 PM, Logan McNatt wrote:

> Photos, Videos?
> 
> 
> 
> On 4/3/2012 4:04 PM, Diana Tomchick wrote:
>> Picture a whole campus of Ph.D. scientists and M.D.s, clustered around the 
>> outer windows of 13-story buildings watching the weather roll in from the SW 
>> (Arlington area) and passing over Love Field to then on to the NE. It was a 
>> rare chance to spend 45 minutes watching nature and gossiping about all 
>> sorts of subjects.
>> 
>> We don't need no stinking storm shelter!
>> 
>> Diana
>> 
>> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
>> Diana R. Tomchick
>> Professor
>> University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center
>> Department of Biochemistry
>> 5323 Harry Hines Blvd.
>> Rm. ND10.214B
>> Dallas, TX 75390-8816, U.S.A.
>> Email: diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu
>> 214-645-6383 (phone)
>> 214-645-6353 (fax)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 3, 2012, at 3:52 PM, Charles Goldsmith wrote:
>> 
>>> So far all of the damage is Arlington and Forney with a small bit in
>>> north Addison from what we are told.  My work evacuated us to storm
>>> shelters for about an hour today.
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Karen Perry  wrote:
 Hope all in DFW area are OK. Sounds like its bad
 Karen
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Re: [Texascavers] weather

2012-04-03 Thread Diana Tomchick
Some of the best can be found on the Washington Post web site:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capital-weather-gang/post/tornado-emergency-in-dallas-ft-worth-area-two-confirmed-tornadoes/2012/04/03/gIQAMsnRtS_blog.html

If you must read the Dallas Morning News, here's a link:

http://thescoopblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2012/04/weather.html

Diana

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Diana R. Tomchick
Professor
University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center
Department of Biochemistry
5323 Harry Hines Blvd.
Rm. ND10.214B   
Dallas, TX 75390-8816, U.S.A. 
Email: diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu
214-645-6383 (phone)
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On Apr 3, 2012, at 4:22 PM, Logan McNatt wrote:

> Photos, Videos?
> 
> 
> 
> On 4/3/2012 4:04 PM, Diana Tomchick wrote:
>> Picture a whole campus of Ph.D. scientists and M.D.s, clustered around the 
>> outer windows of 13-story buildings watching the weather roll in from the SW 
>> (Arlington area) and passing over Love Field to then on to the NE. It was a 
>> rare chance to spend 45 minutes watching nature and gossiping about all 
>> sorts of subjects.
>> 
>> We don't need no stinking storm shelter!
>> 
>> Diana
>> 
>> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
>> Diana R. Tomchick
>> Professor
>> University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center
>> Department of Biochemistry
>> 5323 Harry Hines Blvd.
>> Rm. ND10.214B
>> Dallas, TX 75390-8816, U.S.A.
>> Email: diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu
>> 214-645-6383 (phone)
>> 214-645-6353 (fax)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 3, 2012, at 3:52 PM, Charles Goldsmith wrote:
>> 
>>> So far all of the damage is Arlington and Forney with a small bit in
>>> north Addison from what we are told.  My work evacuated us to storm
>>> shelters for about an hour today.
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Karen Perry  wrote:
 Hope all in DFW area are OK. Sounds like its bad
 Karen
>>> -
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RE: [Texascavers] weather

2012-04-03 Thread Fritz Holt
Fortunately the windows didn't blow out or there might be a few less Ph.D. 
scientists and M.D.'s clustered and we do need those stinking folks.

Fritz

-Original Message-
From: Diana Tomchick [mailto:diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 4:04 PM
To: Cave Tex
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] weather

Picture a whole campus of Ph.D. scientists and M.D.s, clustered around the 
outer windows of 13-story buildings watching the weather roll in from the SW 
(Arlington area) and passing over Love Field to then on to the NE. It was a 
rare chance to spend 45 minutes watching nature and gossiping about all sorts 
of subjects.

We don't need no stinking storm shelter!

Diana

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Diana R. Tomchick
Professor
University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center
Department of Biochemistry
5323 Harry Hines Blvd.
Rm. ND10.214B
Dallas, TX 75390-8816, U.S.A.
Email: diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu
214-645-6383 (phone)
214-645-6353 (fax)




On Apr 3, 2012, at 3:52 PM, Charles Goldsmith wrote:

> So far all of the damage is Arlington and Forney with a small bit in
> north Addison from what we are told.  My work evacuated us to storm
> shelters for about an hour today.
>
> On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Karen Perry  wrote:
>> Hope all in DFW area are OK. Sounds like its bad
>> Karen
>
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RE: [Texascavers] weather

2012-04-03 Thread Fritz Holt
Fortunately the windows didn't blow out or there might be a few less Ph.D. 
scientists and M.D.'s clustered and we do need those stinking folks.

Fritz

-Original Message-
From: Diana Tomchick [mailto:diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 4:04 PM
To: Cave Tex
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] weather

Picture a whole campus of Ph.D. scientists and M.D.s, clustered around the 
outer windows of 13-story buildings watching the weather roll in from the SW 
(Arlington area) and passing over Love Field to then on to the NE. It was a 
rare chance to spend 45 minutes watching nature and gossiping about all sorts 
of subjects.

We don't need no stinking storm shelter!

Diana

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Diana R. Tomchick
Professor
University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center
Department of Biochemistry
5323 Harry Hines Blvd.
Rm. ND10.214B
Dallas, TX 75390-8816, U.S.A.
Email: diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu
214-645-6383 (phone)
214-645-6353 (fax)




On Apr 3, 2012, at 3:52 PM, Charles Goldsmith wrote:

> So far all of the damage is Arlington and Forney with a small bit in
> north Addison from what we are told.  My work evacuated us to storm
> shelters for about an hour today.
>
> On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Karen Perry  wrote:
>> Hope all in DFW area are OK. Sounds like its bad
>> Karen
>
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RE: [Texascavers] weather

2012-04-03 Thread Fritz Holt
Fortunately the windows didn't blow out or there might be a few less Ph.D. 
scientists and M.D.'s clustered and we do need those stinking folks.

Fritz

-Original Message-
From: Diana Tomchick [mailto:diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 4:04 PM
To: Cave Tex
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] weather

Picture a whole campus of Ph.D. scientists and M.D.s, clustered around the 
outer windows of 13-story buildings watching the weather roll in from the SW 
(Arlington area) and passing over Love Field to then on to the NE. It was a 
rare chance to spend 45 minutes watching nature and gossiping about all sorts 
of subjects.

We don't need no stinking storm shelter!

Diana

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Diana R. Tomchick
Professor
University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center
Department of Biochemistry
5323 Harry Hines Blvd.
Rm. ND10.214B
Dallas, TX 75390-8816, U.S.A.
Email: diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu
214-645-6383 (phone)
214-645-6353 (fax)




On Apr 3, 2012, at 3:52 PM, Charles Goldsmith wrote:

> So far all of the damage is Arlington and Forney with a small bit in
> north Addison from what we are told.  My work evacuated us to storm
> shelters for about an hour today.
>
> On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Karen Perry  wrote:
>> Hope all in DFW area are OK. Sounds like its bad
>> Karen
>
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Re: [Texascavers] weather

2012-04-03 Thread Logan McNatt

Photos, Videos?



On 4/3/2012 4:04 PM, Diana Tomchick wrote:

Picture a whole campus of Ph.D. scientists and M.D.s, clustered around the 
outer windows of 13-story buildings watching the weather roll in from the SW 
(Arlington area) and passing over Love Field to then on to the NE. It was a 
rare chance to spend 45 minutes watching nature and gossiping about all sorts 
of subjects.

We don't need no stinking storm shelter!

Diana

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Diana R. Tomchick
Professor
University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center
Department of Biochemistry
5323 Harry Hines Blvd.
Rm. ND10.214B
Dallas, TX 75390-8816, U.S.A.
Email: diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu
214-645-6383 (phone)
214-645-6353 (fax)




On Apr 3, 2012, at 3:52 PM, Charles Goldsmith wrote:


So far all of the damage is Arlington and Forney with a small bit in
north Addison from what we are told.  My work evacuated us to storm
shelters for about an hour today.

On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Karen Perry  wrote:

Hope all in DFW area are OK. Sounds like its bad
Karen

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Re: [Texascavers] weather

2012-04-03 Thread Logan McNatt

Photos, Videos?



On 4/3/2012 4:04 PM, Diana Tomchick wrote:

Picture a whole campus of Ph.D. scientists and M.D.s, clustered around the 
outer windows of 13-story buildings watching the weather roll in from the SW 
(Arlington area) and passing over Love Field to then on to the NE. It was a 
rare chance to spend 45 minutes watching nature and gossiping about all sorts 
of subjects.

We don't need no stinking storm shelter!

Diana

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Diana R. Tomchick
Professor
University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center
Department of Biochemistry
5323 Harry Hines Blvd.
Rm. ND10.214B
Dallas, TX 75390-8816, U.S.A.
Email: diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu
214-645-6383 (phone)
214-645-6353 (fax)




On Apr 3, 2012, at 3:52 PM, Charles Goldsmith wrote:


So far all of the damage is Arlington and Forney with a small bit in
north Addison from what we are told.  My work evacuated us to storm
shelters for about an hour today.

On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Karen Perry  wrote:

Hope all in DFW area are OK. Sounds like its bad
Karen

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Re: [Texascavers] weather

2012-04-03 Thread Logan McNatt

Photos, Videos?



On 4/3/2012 4:04 PM, Diana Tomchick wrote:

Picture a whole campus of Ph.D. scientists and M.D.s, clustered around the 
outer windows of 13-story buildings watching the weather roll in from the SW 
(Arlington area) and passing over Love Field to then on to the NE. It was a 
rare chance to spend 45 minutes watching nature and gossiping about all sorts 
of subjects.

We don't need no stinking storm shelter!

Diana

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Diana R. Tomchick
Professor
University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center
Department of Biochemistry
5323 Harry Hines Blvd.
Rm. ND10.214B
Dallas, TX 75390-8816, U.S.A.
Email: diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu
214-645-6383 (phone)
214-645-6353 (fax)




On Apr 3, 2012, at 3:52 PM, Charles Goldsmith wrote:


So far all of the damage is Arlington and Forney with a small bit in
north Addison from what we are told.  My work evacuated us to storm
shelters for about an hour today.

On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Karen Perry  wrote:

Hope all in DFW area are OK. Sounds like its bad
Karen

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Re: [Texascavers] weather

2012-04-03 Thread Diana Tomchick
Picture a whole campus of Ph.D. scientists and M.D.s, clustered around the 
outer windows of 13-story buildings watching the weather roll in from the SW 
(Arlington area) and passing over Love Field to then on to the NE. It was a 
rare chance to spend 45 minutes watching nature and gossiping about all sorts 
of subjects.

We don't need no stinking storm shelter!

Diana

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Diana R. Tomchick
Professor
University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center
Department of Biochemistry
5323 Harry Hines Blvd.
Rm. ND10.214B
Dallas, TX 75390-8816, U.S.A.
Email: diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu
214-645-6383 (phone)
214-645-6353 (fax)




On Apr 3, 2012, at 3:52 PM, Charles Goldsmith wrote:

> So far all of the damage is Arlington and Forney with a small bit in
> north Addison from what we are told.  My work evacuated us to storm
> shelters for about an hour today.
>
> On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Karen Perry  wrote:
>> Hope all in DFW area are OK. Sounds like its bad
>> Karen
>
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Re: [Texascavers] weather

2012-04-03 Thread Diana Tomchick
Picture a whole campus of Ph.D. scientists and M.D.s, clustered around the 
outer windows of 13-story buildings watching the weather roll in from the SW 
(Arlington area) and passing over Love Field to then on to the NE. It was a 
rare chance to spend 45 minutes watching nature and gossiping about all sorts 
of subjects.

We don't need no stinking storm shelter!

Diana

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Diana R. Tomchick
Professor
University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center
Department of Biochemistry
5323 Harry Hines Blvd.
Rm. ND10.214B
Dallas, TX 75390-8816, U.S.A.
Email: diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu
214-645-6383 (phone)
214-645-6353 (fax)




On Apr 3, 2012, at 3:52 PM, Charles Goldsmith wrote:

> So far all of the damage is Arlington and Forney with a small bit in
> north Addison from what we are told.  My work evacuated us to storm
> shelters for about an hour today.
>
> On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Karen Perry  wrote:
>> Hope all in DFW area are OK. Sounds like its bad
>> Karen
>
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Re: [Texascavers] weather

2012-04-03 Thread Diana Tomchick
Picture a whole campus of Ph.D. scientists and M.D.s, clustered around the 
outer windows of 13-story buildings watching the weather roll in from the SW 
(Arlington area) and passing over Love Field to then on to the NE. It was a 
rare chance to spend 45 minutes watching nature and gossiping about all sorts 
of subjects.

We don't need no stinking storm shelter!

Diana

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Diana R. Tomchick
Professor
University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center
Department of Biochemistry
5323 Harry Hines Blvd.
Rm. ND10.214B
Dallas, TX 75390-8816, U.S.A.
Email: diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu
214-645-6383 (phone)
214-645-6353 (fax)




On Apr 3, 2012, at 3:52 PM, Charles Goldsmith wrote:

> So far all of the damage is Arlington and Forney with a small bit in
> north Addison from what we are told.  My work evacuated us to storm
> shelters for about an hour today.
>
> On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Karen Perry  wrote:
>> Hope all in DFW area are OK. Sounds like its bad
>> Karen
>
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Re: [Texascavers] weather

2012-04-03 Thread Scott Boyd
Despite the funnel clouds south of us, we had no damage here in Crowley.
Just heavy rain and marble-size hail.

Scott

On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Karen Perry  wrote:

> Hope all in DFW area are OK. Sounds like its bad
> Karen
>


Re: [Texascavers] weather

2012-04-03 Thread Scott Boyd
Despite the funnel clouds south of us, we had no damage here in Crowley.
Just heavy rain and marble-size hail.

Scott

On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Karen Perry  wrote:

> Hope all in DFW area are OK. Sounds like its bad
> Karen
>


Re: [Texascavers] weather

2012-04-03 Thread Scott Boyd
Despite the funnel clouds south of us, we had no damage here in Crowley.
Just heavy rain and marble-size hail.

Scott

On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Karen Perry  wrote:

> Hope all in DFW area are OK. Sounds like its bad
> Karen
>


Re: [Texascavers] weather

2012-04-03 Thread Charles Goldsmith
So far all of the damage is Arlington and Forney with a small bit in
north Addison from what we are told.  My work evacuated us to storm
shelters for about an hour today.

On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Karen Perry  wrote:
> Hope all in DFW area are OK. Sounds like its bad
> Karen


Re: [Texascavers] weather

2012-04-03 Thread Charles Goldsmith
So far all of the damage is Arlington and Forney with a small bit in
north Addison from what we are told.  My work evacuated us to storm
shelters for about an hour today.

On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Karen Perry  wrote:
> Hope all in DFW area are OK. Sounds like its bad
> Karen


Re: [Texascavers] weather

2012-04-03 Thread Charles Goldsmith
So far all of the damage is Arlington and Forney with a small bit in
north Addison from what we are told.  My work evacuated us to storm
shelters for about an hour today.

On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Karen Perry  wrote:
> Hope all in DFW area are OK. Sounds like its bad
> Karen


[Texascavers] weather

2012-04-03 Thread Karen Perry
Hope all in DFW area are OK. Sounds like its bad

Karen


[Texascavers] weather

2012-04-03 Thread Karen Perry
Hope all in DFW area are OK. Sounds like its bad

Karen


[Texascavers] weather

2012-04-03 Thread Karen Perry
Hope all in DFW area are OK. Sounds like its bad

Karen


Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo

2012-04-03 Thread John Corcoran
Thanks Mike,

 

I don’t know the history very well, but think white LEDs started appearing in 
2002 and by 2005, high intensity white LEDs were available.

 

Although wheatlamps are still available from places like eBay, I think they 
were also replaced by LED versions by the same dates.

 

Regards,

 

John

 

 

 

From: Bilbo, Michael J [mailto:mbi...@blm.gov] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 10:10 AM
To: 'john_j_corcoran_...@msn.com'; 'lstarr...@gmail.com'; 's...@caver.net'
Subject: Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo

 

John - a thought on the recent history of headlamps - if it is 2004 (or late 
'90s), that be the basic end-period for wheatlamps, correct? And the shift to 
LEDs? When did cavers go full bore into LEDs?

On the photo date and kneepads, I bought for the Roswell BLM cache in mid '90s 
about 20 pair of Bomber Gear kneepads (and we also still had 15 functioning 
wheatlamps then). I also forwarded the photo to Stephen Carter as the central 
figure bears some resemblance.
 

From: John Corcoran [mailto:john_j_corcoran_...@msn.com] 
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 09:29 PM
To: Bilbo, Michael J; lstarr...@gmail.com ; s...@caver.net 
 
Subject: RE: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo 
 

Mike,

 

I think the photo is from Peter Jones and could be as far back as 2004.  I 
don’t have Peter’s email address, but asked someone else to check.

 

Regards,

 

John

 

From: swr-boun...@caver.net [mailto:swr-boun...@caver.net] On Behalf Of Bilbo, 
Michael J
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 11:17 AM
To: 'lstarr...@gmail.com'; 's...@caver.net'
Subject: Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo

 

I-ve seen that photo before and think it was mineralogy or DNA HIB trip from 
2008-2010 but can't I'd anyone via the Blackberry screen. On Wednesday or 
Thursday I'll be able to look at permits to find the last Lincoln trips.

John Corcoran - can you do a search through FSCSP reports to see when the last 
Lincoln trips were? Diana Northup -could you do same? My recollection of late 
period pre-moratorium was a DNA HIB trip.
 

From: Linda Starr [mailto:lstarr...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 12:09 AM
To: Southwestern Region  
Subject: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo 
 

Hi All,
 This photo is being used in the Lincoln Caverns Discovery story written by 
Lee Skinner for the 50th Anniversary Memoir booklet. Does anyone out there 
recognize this photo and know who the people are and what year this was taken?
 Let me know if you know anything about it.

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Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo

2012-04-03 Thread John Corcoran
Thanks Mike,

 

I don’t know the history very well, but think white LEDs started appearing in 
2002 and by 2005, high intensity white LEDs were available.

 

Although wheatlamps are still available from places like eBay, I think they 
were also replaced by LED versions by the same dates.

 

Regards,

 

John

 

 

 

From: Bilbo, Michael J [mailto:mbi...@blm.gov] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 10:10 AM
To: 'john_j_corcoran_...@msn.com'; 'lstarr...@gmail.com'; 's...@caver.net'
Subject: Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo

 

John - a thought on the recent history of headlamps - if it is 2004 (or late 
'90s), that be the basic end-period for wheatlamps, correct? And the shift to 
LEDs? When did cavers go full bore into LEDs?

On the photo date and kneepads, I bought for the Roswell BLM cache in mid '90s 
about 20 pair of Bomber Gear kneepads (and we also still had 15 functioning 
wheatlamps then). I also forwarded the photo to Stephen Carter as the central 
figure bears some resemblance.
 

From: John Corcoran [mailto:john_j_corcoran_...@msn.com] 
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 09:29 PM
To: Bilbo, Michael J; lstarr...@gmail.com ; s...@caver.net 
 
Subject: RE: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo 
 

Mike,

 

I think the photo is from Peter Jones and could be as far back as 2004.  I 
don’t have Peter’s email address, but asked someone else to check.

 

Regards,

 

John

 

From: swr-boun...@caver.net [mailto:swr-boun...@caver.net] On Behalf Of Bilbo, 
Michael J
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 11:17 AM
To: 'lstarr...@gmail.com'; 's...@caver.net'
Subject: Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo

 

I-ve seen that photo before and think it was mineralogy or DNA HIB trip from 
2008-2010 but can't I'd anyone via the Blackberry screen. On Wednesday or 
Thursday I'll be able to look at permits to find the last Lincoln trips.

John Corcoran - can you do a search through FSCSP reports to see when the last 
Lincoln trips were? Diana Northup -could you do same? My recollection of late 
period pre-moratorium was a DNA HIB trip.
 

From: Linda Starr [mailto:lstarr...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 12:09 AM
To: Southwestern Region  
Subject: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo 
 

Hi All,
 This photo is being used in the Lincoln Caverns Discovery story written by 
Lee Skinner for the 50th Anniversary Memoir booklet. Does anyone out there 
recognize this photo and know who the people are and what year this was taken?
 Let me know if you know anything about it.

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Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo

2012-04-03 Thread John Corcoran
Thanks Mike,

 

I don’t know the history very well, but think white LEDs started appearing in 
2002 and by 2005, high intensity white LEDs were available.

 

Although wheatlamps are still available from places like eBay, I think they 
were also replaced by LED versions by the same dates.

 

Regards,

 

John

 

 

 

From: Bilbo, Michael J [mailto:mbi...@blm.gov] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 10:10 AM
To: 'john_j_corcoran_...@msn.com'; 'lstarr...@gmail.com'; 's...@caver.net'
Subject: Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo

 

John - a thought on the recent history of headlamps - if it is 2004 (or late 
'90s), that be the basic end-period for wheatlamps, correct? And the shift to 
LEDs? When did cavers go full bore into LEDs?

On the photo date and kneepads, I bought for the Roswell BLM cache in mid '90s 
about 20 pair of Bomber Gear kneepads (and we also still had 15 functioning 
wheatlamps then). I also forwarded the photo to Stephen Carter as the central 
figure bears some resemblance.
 

From: John Corcoran [mailto:john_j_corcoran_...@msn.com] 
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 09:29 PM
To: Bilbo, Michael J; lstarr...@gmail.com ; s...@caver.net 
 
Subject: RE: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo 
 

Mike,

 

I think the photo is from Peter Jones and could be as far back as 2004.  I 
don’t have Peter’s email address, but asked someone else to check.

 

Regards,

 

John

 

From: swr-boun...@caver.net [mailto:swr-boun...@caver.net] On Behalf Of Bilbo, 
Michael J
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 11:17 AM
To: 'lstarr...@gmail.com'; 's...@caver.net'
Subject: Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo

 

I-ve seen that photo before and think it was mineralogy or DNA HIB trip from 
2008-2010 but can't I'd anyone via the Blackberry screen. On Wednesday or 
Thursday I'll be able to look at permits to find the last Lincoln trips.

John Corcoran - can you do a search through FSCSP reports to see when the last 
Lincoln trips were? Diana Northup -could you do same? My recollection of late 
period pre-moratorium was a DNA HIB trip.
 

From: Linda Starr [mailto:lstarr...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 12:09 AM
To: Southwestern Region  
Subject: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo 
 

Hi All,
 This photo is being used in the Lincoln Caverns Discovery story written by 
Lee Skinner for the 50th Anniversary Memoir booklet. Does anyone out there 
recognize this photo and know who the people are and what year this was taken?
 Let me know if you know anything about it.

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Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo

2012-04-03 Thread jen .


I forwarded on to Frank.  I thought it looked like Sam Bono, but he didn't 
respond to my email yet.  
I agree that it looks like the 90's in that photo. But then I don't really know 
what 80's cavers looked like.




Jen

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To: lstarr...@gmail.com; s...@caver.net
List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 09:52:55 -0600
Subject: Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo


Trying to enlarge that on a Blackberry blurs it out too fast. So, in a 
brilliant combination of new and old technology (I bought a magnifying glass), 
yep - a wheatlamp and what appear to be Bomber Gear kneepads - possibly from 
the BLM cache.  The big guy in the back looks like Frank Everitt but still 
couldn't zero in enough.  I don't have Frank's email on this device so if 
anyone has the current, please forward to him and ask him to confirm yea or nay 
to Linda.
 



From: Linda Starr [mailto:lstarr...@gmail.com]

Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 12:09 AM
To: Southwestern Region 

Subject: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo

 

Hi All,
 This photo is being used in the Lincoln Caverns Discovery story written by 
Lee Skinner for the 50th Anniversary Memoir booklet. Does anyone out there 
recognize this photo and know who the people are and what year this was taken?

 Let me know if you know anything about it.

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Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo

2012-04-03 Thread jen .


I forwarded on to Frank.  I thought it looked like Sam Bono, but he didn't 
respond to my email yet.  
I agree that it looks like the 90's in that photo. But then I don't really know 
what 80's cavers looked like.




Jen

From: mbi...@blm.gov
To: lstarr...@gmail.com; s...@caver.net
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 09:52:55 -0600
Subject: Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo


Trying to enlarge that on a Blackberry blurs it out too fast. So, in a 
brilliant combination of new and old technology (I bought a magnifying glass), 
yep - a wheatlamp and what appear to be Bomber Gear kneepads - possibly from 
the BLM cache.  The big guy in the back looks like Frank Everitt but still 
couldn't zero in enough.  I don't have Frank's email on this device so if 
anyone has the current, please forward to him and ask him to confirm yea or nay 
to Linda.
 



From: Linda Starr [mailto:lstarr...@gmail.com]

Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 12:09 AM
To: Southwestern Region 

Subject: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo

 

Hi All,
 This photo is being used in the Lincoln Caverns Discovery story written by 
Lee Skinner for the 50th Anniversary Memoir booklet. Does anyone out there 
recognize this photo and know who the people are and what year this was taken?

 Let me know if you know anything about it.

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Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo

2012-04-03 Thread jen .


I forwarded on to Frank.  I thought it looked like Sam Bono, but he didn't 
respond to my email yet.  
I agree that it looks like the 90's in that photo. But then I don't really know 
what 80's cavers looked like.




Jen

From: mbi...@blm.gov
To: lstarr...@gmail.com; s...@caver.net
List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 09:52:55 -0600
Subject: Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo


Trying to enlarge that on a Blackberry blurs it out too fast. So, in a 
brilliant combination of new and old technology (I bought a magnifying glass), 
yep - a wheatlamp and what appear to be Bomber Gear kneepads - possibly from 
the BLM cache.  The big guy in the back looks like Frank Everitt but still 
couldn't zero in enough.  I don't have Frank's email on this device so if 
anyone has the current, please forward to him and ask him to confirm yea or nay 
to Linda.
 



From: Linda Starr [mailto:lstarr...@gmail.com]

Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 12:09 AM
To: Southwestern Region 

Subject: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo

 

Hi All,
 This photo is being used in the Lincoln Caverns Discovery story written by 
Lee Skinner for the 50th Anniversary Memoir booklet. Does anyone out there 
recognize this photo and know who the people are and what year this was taken?

 Let me know if you know anything about it.

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[SWR] Lincoln Caverns photos

2012-04-03 Thread John Lyles
I have not been able to see the photos in question, links don't do anything 
here, so was wondering if you could just move this topic off the SWR mailer 
into email? 
Come to think of it, maybe I took the photos in question. Can't tell unless I 
can see them though. 
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[SWR] Lincoln Caverns photos

2012-04-03 Thread John Lyles
I have not been able to see the photos in question, links don't do anything 
here, so was wondering if you could just move this topic off the SWR mailer 
into email? 
Come to think of it, maybe I took the photos in question. Can't tell unless I 
can see them though. 
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[SWR] Lincoln Caverns photos

2012-04-03 Thread John Lyles
I have not been able to see the photos in question, links don't do anything 
here, so was wondering if you could just move this topic off the SWR mailer 
into email? 
Come to think of it, maybe I took the photos in question. Can't tell unless I 
can see them though. 
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Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo

2012-04-03 Thread Lee H. Skinner
Here is another photo in Lincoln by the same photographer if this 
helps.  I just don't remember who sent it to me.  Jim Cox, maybe?   - Lee
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Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo

2012-04-03 Thread Lee H. Skinner
Here is another photo in Lincoln by the same photographer if this 
helps.  I just don't remember who sent it to me.  Jim Cox, maybe?   - Lee
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Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo

2012-04-03 Thread Lee H. Skinner
Here is another photo in Lincoln by the same photographer if this 
helps.  I just don't remember who sent it to me.  Jim Cox, maybe?   - Lee
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[SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo

2012-04-03 Thread Carl Pagano




> 
> I enlarged it….maybe the battery pack of an easter seal lamp on the guy in 
> the middle? Also the helmet on the woman in the front has a ridge on the top. 
> Looks old. Maybe Bob and Bob or other cave vendors can i.d. the helmet, and 
> give a better idea of how old the pic is….Carl…..
> On Apr 3, 2012, at 9:52 AM, Bilbo, Michael J wrote:
> 
>> Trying to enlarge that on a Blackberry blurs it out too fast. So, in a 
>> brilliant combination of new and old technology (I bought a magnifying 
>> glass), yep - a wheatlamp and what appear to be Bomber Gear kneepads - 
>> possibly from the BLM cache. The big guy in the back looks like Frank 
>> Everitt but still couldn't zero in enough. I don't have Frank's email on 
>> this device so if anyone has the current, please forward to him and ask him 
>> to confirm yea or nay to Linda.
>>  
>> From: Linda Starr [mailto:lstarr...@gmail.com] 
>> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 12:09 AM
>> To: Southwestern Region  
>> Subject: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo 
>>  
>> Hi All,
>>  This photo is being used in the Lincoln Caverns Discovery story written 
>> by Lee Skinner for the 50th Anniversary Memoir booklet. Does anyone out 
>> there recognize this photo and know who the people are and what year this 
>> was taken?
>>  Let me know if you know anything about it.
>> 
>> Linda Starr
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[SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo

2012-04-03 Thread Carl Pagano




> 
> I enlarged it….maybe the battery pack of an easter seal lamp on the guy in 
> the middle? Also the helmet on the woman in the front has a ridge on the top. 
> Looks old. Maybe Bob and Bob or other cave vendors can i.d. the helmet, and 
> give a better idea of how old the pic is….Carl…..
> On Apr 3, 2012, at 9:52 AM, Bilbo, Michael J wrote:
> 
>> Trying to enlarge that on a Blackberry blurs it out too fast. So, in a 
>> brilliant combination of new and old technology (I bought a magnifying 
>> glass), yep - a wheatlamp and what appear to be Bomber Gear kneepads - 
>> possibly from the BLM cache. The big guy in the back looks like Frank 
>> Everitt but still couldn't zero in enough. I don't have Frank's email on 
>> this device so if anyone has the current, please forward to him and ask him 
>> to confirm yea or nay to Linda.
>>  
>> From: Linda Starr [mailto:lstarr...@gmail.com] 
>> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 12:09 AM
>> To: Southwestern Region  
>> Subject: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo 
>>  
>> Hi All,
>>  This photo is being used in the Lincoln Caverns Discovery story written 
>> by Lee Skinner for the 50th Anniversary Memoir booklet. Does anyone out 
>> there recognize this photo and know who the people are and what year this 
>> was taken?
>>  Let me know if you know anything about it.
>> 
>> Linda Starr
>> 
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[SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo

2012-04-03 Thread Carl Pagano




> 
> I enlarged it….maybe the battery pack of an easter seal lamp on the guy in 
> the middle? Also the helmet on the woman in the front has a ridge on the top. 
> Looks old. Maybe Bob and Bob or other cave vendors can i.d. the helmet, and 
> give a better idea of how old the pic is….Carl…..
> On Apr 3, 2012, at 9:52 AM, Bilbo, Michael J wrote:
> 
>> Trying to enlarge that on a Blackberry blurs it out too fast. So, in a 
>> brilliant combination of new and old technology (I bought a magnifying 
>> glass), yep - a wheatlamp and what appear to be Bomber Gear kneepads - 
>> possibly from the BLM cache. The big guy in the back looks like Frank 
>> Everitt but still couldn't zero in enough. I don't have Frank's email on 
>> this device so if anyone has the current, please forward to him and ask him 
>> to confirm yea or nay to Linda.
>>  
>> From: Linda Starr [mailto:lstarr...@gmail.com] 
>> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 12:09 AM
>> To: Southwestern Region  
>> Subject: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo 
>>  
>> Hi All,
>>  This photo is being used in the Lincoln Caverns Discovery story written 
>> by Lee Skinner for the 50th Anniversary Memoir booklet. Does anyone out 
>> there recognize this photo and know who the people are and what year this 
>> was taken?
>>  Let me know if you know anything about it.
>> 
>> Linda Starr
>> 
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RE: [Texascavers] leafcutter bees

2012-04-03 Thread Louise Power

The closeup of their little buttocks certainly make it look like they're 
stingerless. I guess we could ask Jim.
 
Louise
 

> Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 19:14:58 -0500
> From: gi...@att.net
> To: bmixon...@austin.rr.com
> CC: texascavers@texascavers.com
> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] leafcutter bees
> 
> So, are these bees stingerless?
> --Ediger
> 
> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 2:32 PM, Mixon Bill  wrote:
> > Many of us have enjoyed watching parades of leafcutter ants, such as can be
> > seen in Bustamante Canyon in northern Mexico. Don't think they get very far
> > into Texas. Here's a curious things from Jim Conrad's Naturalist Newsletter
> > about leafcutter bees, which I'd never heard of before.
> >
> > You can sign up to get his e-mail weekly newsletter at
> > www.backyardnature.net/news/natnat.php
> >
> > Very rarely anything about caves, but lots of interesting nature stuff,
> > especially about plants and birds. -- Mixon
> >
> > JIM CONRAD’S NATURALIST NEWSLETTER
> > Issued from the woods not far from Natchez, in
> > southwestern Mississippi, USA
> >
> > April 1, 2012
> >
> > *
> >
> > LEAFCUTTER BEES
> > On my last day in the Yucatán I untied the rope that
> > for so long had been suspending my backpack from the
> > hut's ceiling, hopefully out of mind for nest-seeking
> > rats and mice, and took my old backpack in hand. Ashes
> > from daily campfires had settled all over it so I
> > stepped outside and gave it a good whack. The
> > resulting cloud was half ash and half green tatters of
> > dried, coiled-up leaf-parts stuck together into tube-
> > like affairs. The leaf tatters surprised me.
> >
> > But, I knew what they were, for back in 2006 during my
> > stay at Genesis Retreat in Ek Balam, Yucatán, the Maya
> > staff there had showed me the same thing. You can read
> > about that encounter and see the leafy, tube-like item
> > at http://www.backyardnature.net/yucatan/jo_olon.htm
> >
> > A young Maya woman had told me that the green leaf-
> > tube was a collection of nests stuck end-to-end, and
> > that the tube construction itself was known by a
> > special Maya name, which was pa'ak. The creature
> > inside the cocoon was Jo'olon. I was told that a bee
> > made the nest, but I hardly believed it.
> >
> > But, now I believe her, for once I had disturbed all
> > those nests in my roof-suspended backpack, hoards of
> > bees came complaining, thumping against me and
> > entangling themselves in my hair but never stinging.
> > And they were surely the most unusual bees I've ever
> > seen, for instead of carrying clumps of pollen on
> > their back-leg "baskets," they transported it on hairs
> > covering the entire bottoms of their abdomens. With
> > their golden-yellow abdomen bottoms they look like
> > dimly lit fireflies. You can the pollen-dusted lower
> > abdomen on a bee entering its pa'ak cocoon, one
> > stuffed into one of my backpack's looped belt-tips, in
> > the hut's dim light, so it's a grainy picture, at
> > http://www.backyardnature.net/n/12/120401be.jpg
> >
> > A rear view of the same bee showing golden pollen
> > stuffed inside a green pa'ak tube is shown at
> > http://www.backyardnature.net/n/12/120401bf.jpg
> >
> > So, this was my last Yucatán identification challenge
> > for volunteer IDer Bea in Ontario. Here's what she
> > came up with: It's a Leafcutter Bee. Many times we've
> > spoken of leafcutter ants, but this was something new.
> >
> > Leafcutter Bees, I find, are members of the genus
> > MEGACHILE, and despite my ignorance of its existence
> > that genus is one of the largest among bees, home to
> > well over 500 species and over 50 subgenera. A list of
> > insects of Río Lagartos, Yucatán includes eight
> > species of Megachile leafcutter bees, but I can't say
> > which species is shown here.
> >
> > Of leafcutter bees I read that, exactly as we see with
> > our pa'ak tubes, Megachile nests typically are
> > composed of single long columns of cells constructed
> > from cut-out leaf sections. Females place pollen or a
> > pollen/nectar mix in each cell as food for the egg
> > laid there, then the cell is capped so that a wall
> > separates that cell from the next one. The larva
> > hatching from the egg eats the food supply and after a
> > few molts and maybe a period of hibernation spins a
> > cocoon and pupates, emerging from the nest as an adult
> > bee. Males are typically smaller than females and
> > emerge before them. Males die shortly after mating but
> > females survive for several weeks, building new nests.
> >
> > What a fine last discovery to end my Yucatán days!
> > 
> > The winner of the rat race is still a rat.
> > 
> > You may "reply" to the address this message
> > came from, but for long-term use, save:
> > Personal: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu
> > AMCS: edi...@amcs-pubs.org or sa...@amcs-pubs.org
> >
> >
> > -
> 

RE: [Texascavers] leafcutter bees

2012-04-03 Thread Louise Power

The closeup of their little buttocks certainly make it look like they're 
stingerless. I guess we could ask Jim.
 
Louise
 

> Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 19:14:58 -0500
> From: gi...@att.net
> To: bmixon...@austin.rr.com
> CC: texascavers@texascavers.com
> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] leafcutter bees
> 
> So, are these bees stingerless?
> --Ediger
> 
> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 2:32 PM, Mixon Bill  wrote:
> > Many of us have enjoyed watching parades of leafcutter ants, such as can be
> > seen in Bustamante Canyon in northern Mexico. Don't think they get very far
> > into Texas. Here's a curious things from Jim Conrad's Naturalist Newsletter
> > about leafcutter bees, which I'd never heard of before.
> >
> > You can sign up to get his e-mail weekly newsletter at
> > www.backyardnature.net/news/natnat.php
> >
> > Very rarely anything about caves, but lots of interesting nature stuff,
> > especially about plants and birds. -- Mixon
> >
> > JIM CONRAD’S NATURALIST NEWSLETTER
> > Issued from the woods not far from Natchez, in
> > southwestern Mississippi, USA
> >
> > April 1, 2012
> >
> > *
> >
> > LEAFCUTTER BEES
> > On my last day in the Yucatán I untied the rope that
> > for so long had been suspending my backpack from the
> > hut's ceiling, hopefully out of mind for nest-seeking
> > rats and mice, and took my old backpack in hand. Ashes
> > from daily campfires had settled all over it so I
> > stepped outside and gave it a good whack. The
> > resulting cloud was half ash and half green tatters of
> > dried, coiled-up leaf-parts stuck together into tube-
> > like affairs. The leaf tatters surprised me.
> >
> > But, I knew what they were, for back in 2006 during my
> > stay at Genesis Retreat in Ek Balam, Yucatán, the Maya
> > staff there had showed me the same thing. You can read
> > about that encounter and see the leafy, tube-like item
> > at http://www.backyardnature.net/yucatan/jo_olon.htm
> >
> > A young Maya woman had told me that the green leaf-
> > tube was a collection of nests stuck end-to-end, and
> > that the tube construction itself was known by a
> > special Maya name, which was pa'ak. The creature
> > inside the cocoon was Jo'olon. I was told that a bee
> > made the nest, but I hardly believed it.
> >
> > But, now I believe her, for once I had disturbed all
> > those nests in my roof-suspended backpack, hoards of
> > bees came complaining, thumping against me and
> > entangling themselves in my hair but never stinging.
> > And they were surely the most unusual bees I've ever
> > seen, for instead of carrying clumps of pollen on
> > their back-leg "baskets," they transported it on hairs
> > covering the entire bottoms of their abdomens. With
> > their golden-yellow abdomen bottoms they look like
> > dimly lit fireflies. You can the pollen-dusted lower
> > abdomen on a bee entering its pa'ak cocoon, one
> > stuffed into one of my backpack's looped belt-tips, in
> > the hut's dim light, so it's a grainy picture, at
> > http://www.backyardnature.net/n/12/120401be.jpg
> >
> > A rear view of the same bee showing golden pollen
> > stuffed inside a green pa'ak tube is shown at
> > http://www.backyardnature.net/n/12/120401bf.jpg
> >
> > So, this was my last Yucatán identification challenge
> > for volunteer IDer Bea in Ontario. Here's what she
> > came up with: It's a Leafcutter Bee. Many times we've
> > spoken of leafcutter ants, but this was something new.
> >
> > Leafcutter Bees, I find, are members of the genus
> > MEGACHILE, and despite my ignorance of its existence
> > that genus is one of the largest among bees, home to
> > well over 500 species and over 50 subgenera. A list of
> > insects of Río Lagartos, Yucatán includes eight
> > species of Megachile leafcutter bees, but I can't say
> > which species is shown here.
> >
> > Of leafcutter bees I read that, exactly as we see with
> > our pa'ak tubes, Megachile nests typically are
> > composed of single long columns of cells constructed
> > from cut-out leaf sections. Females place pollen or a
> > pollen/nectar mix in each cell as food for the egg
> > laid there, then the cell is capped so that a wall
> > separates that cell from the next one. The larva
> > hatching from the egg eats the food supply and after a
> > few molts and maybe a period of hibernation spins a
> > cocoon and pupates, emerging from the nest as an adult
> > bee. Males are typically smaller than females and
> > emerge before them. Males die shortly after mating but
> > females survive for several weeks, building new nests.
> >
> > What a fine last discovery to end my Yucatán days!
> > 
> > The winner of the rat race is still a rat.
> > 
> > You may "reply" to the address this message
> > came from, but for long-term use, save:
> > Personal: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu
> > AMCS: edi...@amcs-pubs.org or sa...@amcs-pubs.org
> >
> >
> > -
> 

RE: [Texascavers] leafcutter bees

2012-04-03 Thread Louise Power

The closeup of their little buttocks certainly make it look like they're 
stingerless. I guess we could ask Jim.
 
Louise
 

> Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 19:14:58 -0500
> From: gi...@att.net
> To: bmixon...@austin.rr.com
> CC: texascavers@texascavers.com
> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] leafcutter bees
> 
> So, are these bees stingerless?
> --Ediger
> 
> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 2:32 PM, Mixon Bill  wrote:
> > Many of us have enjoyed watching parades of leafcutter ants, such as can be
> > seen in Bustamante Canyon in northern Mexico. Don't think they get very far
> > into Texas. Here's a curious things from Jim Conrad's Naturalist Newsletter
> > about leafcutter bees, which I'd never heard of before.
> >
> > You can sign up to get his e-mail weekly newsletter at
> > www.backyardnature.net/news/natnat.php
> >
> > Very rarely anything about caves, but lots of interesting nature stuff,
> > especially about plants and birds. -- Mixon
> >
> > JIM CONRAD’S NATURALIST NEWSLETTER
> > Issued from the woods not far from Natchez, in
> > southwestern Mississippi, USA
> >
> > April 1, 2012
> >
> > *
> >
> > LEAFCUTTER BEES
> > On my last day in the Yucatán I untied the rope that
> > for so long had been suspending my backpack from the
> > hut's ceiling, hopefully out of mind for nest-seeking
> > rats and mice, and took my old backpack in hand. Ashes
> > from daily campfires had settled all over it so I
> > stepped outside and gave it a good whack. The
> > resulting cloud was half ash and half green tatters of
> > dried, coiled-up leaf-parts stuck together into tube-
> > like affairs. The leaf tatters surprised me.
> >
> > But, I knew what they were, for back in 2006 during my
> > stay at Genesis Retreat in Ek Balam, Yucatán, the Maya
> > staff there had showed me the same thing. You can read
> > about that encounter and see the leafy, tube-like item
> > at http://www.backyardnature.net/yucatan/jo_olon.htm
> >
> > A young Maya woman had told me that the green leaf-
> > tube was a collection of nests stuck end-to-end, and
> > that the tube construction itself was known by a
> > special Maya name, which was pa'ak. The creature
> > inside the cocoon was Jo'olon. I was told that a bee
> > made the nest, but I hardly believed it.
> >
> > But, now I believe her, for once I had disturbed all
> > those nests in my roof-suspended backpack, hoards of
> > bees came complaining, thumping against me and
> > entangling themselves in my hair but never stinging.
> > And they were surely the most unusual bees I've ever
> > seen, for instead of carrying clumps of pollen on
> > their back-leg "baskets," they transported it on hairs
> > covering the entire bottoms of their abdomens. With
> > their golden-yellow abdomen bottoms they look like
> > dimly lit fireflies. You can the pollen-dusted lower
> > abdomen on a bee entering its pa'ak cocoon, one
> > stuffed into one of my backpack's looped belt-tips, in
> > the hut's dim light, so it's a grainy picture, at
> > http://www.backyardnature.net/n/12/120401be.jpg
> >
> > A rear view of the same bee showing golden pollen
> > stuffed inside a green pa'ak tube is shown at
> > http://www.backyardnature.net/n/12/120401bf.jpg
> >
> > So, this was my last Yucatán identification challenge
> > for volunteer IDer Bea in Ontario. Here's what she
> > came up with: It's a Leafcutter Bee. Many times we've
> > spoken of leafcutter ants, but this was something new.
> >
> > Leafcutter Bees, I find, are members of the genus
> > MEGACHILE, and despite my ignorance of its existence
> > that genus is one of the largest among bees, home to
> > well over 500 species and over 50 subgenera. A list of
> > insects of Río Lagartos, Yucatán includes eight
> > species of Megachile leafcutter bees, but I can't say
> > which species is shown here.
> >
> > Of leafcutter bees I read that, exactly as we see with
> > our pa'ak tubes, Megachile nests typically are
> > composed of single long columns of cells constructed
> > from cut-out leaf sections. Females place pollen or a
> > pollen/nectar mix in each cell as food for the egg
> > laid there, then the cell is capped so that a wall
> > separates that cell from the next one. The larva
> > hatching from the egg eats the food supply and after a
> > few molts and maybe a period of hibernation spins a
> > cocoon and pupates, emerging from the nest as an adult
> > bee. Males are typically smaller than females and
> > emerge before them. Males die shortly after mating but
> > females survive for several weeks, building new nests.
> >
> > What a fine last discovery to end my Yucatán days!
> > 
> > The winner of the rat race is still a rat.
> > 
> > You may "reply" to the address this message
> > came from, but for long-term use, save:
> > Personal: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu
> > AMCS: edi...@amcs-pubs.org or sa...@amcs-pubs.org
> >
> >
> > -
> 

Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo

2012-04-03 Thread Peter Jones
Come to think of it, I'd be happy to take credit for that nice photo if anyone 
wants to give it to me…..  LOL


Peter



On Apr 3, 2012, at 10:57 AM, Peter Jones wrote:

> No, that is definitely not my photo.  I went into Lincoln Caverns in 2006, if 
> I recall, but those aren't the people I took with me.  I would recognize that 
> photo if it were mine.
> 
> The reason I said that the photo is fairly recent is based more on the 
> clothing and style of hardhat the people are wearing.  People started 
> switching over to tights for caving in the 90's, but I think the hardhat 
> design on the Petzl helmut is a more recent version as in the 2000's.  Just 
> hypothesizing here…
> 
> Peter
> 
> pjca...@gwi.net
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Apr 2, 2012, at 10:29 PM, John Corcoran wrote:
> 
>> Mike,
>>  
>> I think the photo is from Peter Jones and could be as far back as 2004.  I 
>> don’t have Peter’s email address, but asked someone else to check.
>>  
>> Regards,
>>  
>> John
>>  
>> From: swr-boun...@caver.net [mailto:swr-boun...@caver.net] On Behalf Of 
>> Bilbo, Michael J
>> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 11:17 AM
>> To: 'lstarr...@gmail.com'; 's...@caver.net'
>> Subject: Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo
>>  
>> I-ve seen that photo before and think it was mineralogy or DNA HIB trip from 
>> 2008-2010 but can't I'd anyone via the Blackberry screen. On Wednesday or 
>> Thursday I'll be able to look at permits to find the last Lincoln trips.
>> 
>> John Corcoran - can you do a search through FSCSP reports to see when the 
>> last Lincoln trips were? Diana Northup -could you do same? My recollection 
>> of late period pre-moratorium was a DNA HIB trip.
>>  
>> From: Linda Starr [mailto:lstarr...@gmail.com] 
>> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 12:09 AM
>> To: Southwestern Region  
>> Subject: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo 
>>  
>> Hi All,
>>  This photo is being used in the Lincoln Caverns Discovery story written 
>> by Lee Skinner for the 50th Anniversary Memoir booklet. Does anyone out 
>> there recognize this photo and know who the people are and what year this 
>> was taken?
>>  Let me know if you know anything about it.
>> 
>> Linda Starr
>> 
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Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo

2012-04-03 Thread Peter Jones
Come to think of it, I'd be happy to take credit for that nice photo if anyone 
wants to give it to me…..  LOL


Peter



On Apr 3, 2012, at 10:57 AM, Peter Jones wrote:

> No, that is definitely not my photo.  I went into Lincoln Caverns in 2006, if 
> I recall, but those aren't the people I took with me.  I would recognize that 
> photo if it were mine.
> 
> The reason I said that the photo is fairly recent is based more on the 
> clothing and style of hardhat the people are wearing.  People started 
> switching over to tights for caving in the 90's, but I think the hardhat 
> design on the Petzl helmut is a more recent version as in the 2000's.  Just 
> hypothesizing here…
> 
> Peter
> 
> pjca...@gwi.net
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Apr 2, 2012, at 10:29 PM, John Corcoran wrote:
> 
>> Mike,
>>  
>> I think the photo is from Peter Jones and could be as far back as 2004.  I 
>> don’t have Peter’s email address, but asked someone else to check.
>>  
>> Regards,
>>  
>> John
>>  
>> From: swr-boun...@caver.net [mailto:swr-boun...@caver.net] On Behalf Of 
>> Bilbo, Michael J
>> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 11:17 AM
>> To: 'lstarr...@gmail.com'; 's...@caver.net'
>> Subject: Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo
>>  
>> I-ve seen that photo before and think it was mineralogy or DNA HIB trip from 
>> 2008-2010 but can't I'd anyone via the Blackberry screen. On Wednesday or 
>> Thursday I'll be able to look at permits to find the last Lincoln trips.
>> 
>> John Corcoran - can you do a search through FSCSP reports to see when the 
>> last Lincoln trips were? Diana Northup -could you do same? My recollection 
>> of late period pre-moratorium was a DNA HIB trip.
>>  
>> From: Linda Starr [mailto:lstarr...@gmail.com] 
>> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 12:09 AM
>> To: Southwestern Region  
>> Subject: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo 
>>  
>> Hi All,
>>  This photo is being used in the Lincoln Caverns Discovery story written 
>> by Lee Skinner for the 50th Anniversary Memoir booklet. Does anyone out 
>> there recognize this photo and know who the people are and what year this 
>> was taken?
>>  Let me know if you know anything about it.
>> 
>> Linda Starr
>> 
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Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo

2012-04-03 Thread Peter Jones
Come to think of it, I'd be happy to take credit for that nice photo if anyone 
wants to give it to me…..  LOL


Peter



On Apr 3, 2012, at 10:57 AM, Peter Jones wrote:

> No, that is definitely not my photo.  I went into Lincoln Caverns in 2006, if 
> I recall, but those aren't the people I took with me.  I would recognize that 
> photo if it were mine.
> 
> The reason I said that the photo is fairly recent is based more on the 
> clothing and style of hardhat the people are wearing.  People started 
> switching over to tights for caving in the 90's, but I think the hardhat 
> design on the Petzl helmut is a more recent version as in the 2000's.  Just 
> hypothesizing here…
> 
> Peter
> 
> pjca...@gwi.net
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Apr 2, 2012, at 10:29 PM, John Corcoran wrote:
> 
>> Mike,
>>  
>> I think the photo is from Peter Jones and could be as far back as 2004.  I 
>> don’t have Peter’s email address, but asked someone else to check.
>>  
>> Regards,
>>  
>> John
>>  
>> From: swr-boun...@caver.net [mailto:swr-boun...@caver.net] On Behalf Of 
>> Bilbo, Michael J
>> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 11:17 AM
>> To: 'lstarr...@gmail.com'; 's...@caver.net'
>> Subject: Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo
>>  
>> I-ve seen that photo before and think it was mineralogy or DNA HIB trip from 
>> 2008-2010 but can't I'd anyone via the Blackberry screen. On Wednesday or 
>> Thursday I'll be able to look at permits to find the last Lincoln trips.
>> 
>> John Corcoran - can you do a search through FSCSP reports to see when the 
>> last Lincoln trips were? Diana Northup -could you do same? My recollection 
>> of late period pre-moratorium was a DNA HIB trip.
>>  
>> From: Linda Starr [mailto:lstarr...@gmail.com] 
>> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 12:09 AM
>> To: Southwestern Region  
>> Subject: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo 
>>  
>> Hi All,
>>  This photo is being used in the Lincoln Caverns Discovery story written 
>> by Lee Skinner for the 50th Anniversary Memoir booklet. Does anyone out 
>> there recognize this photo and know who the people are and what year this 
>> was taken?
>>  Let me know if you know anything about it.
>> 
>> Linda Starr
>> 
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Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo

2012-04-03 Thread Peter Jones
No, that is definitely not my photo.  I went into Lincoln Caverns in 2006, if I 
recall, but those aren't the people I took with me.  I would recognize that 
photo if it were mine.

The reason I said that the photo is fairly recent is based more on the clothing 
and style of hardhat the people are wearing.  People started switching over to 
tights for caving in the 90's, but I think the hardhat design on the Petzl 
helmut is a more recent version as in the 2000's.  Just hypothesizing here…

Peter

pjca...@gwi.net





On Apr 2, 2012, at 10:29 PM, John Corcoran wrote:

> Mike,
>  
> I think the photo is from Peter Jones and could be as far back as 2004.  I 
> don’t have Peter’s email address, but asked someone else to check.
>  
> Regards,
>  
> John
>  
> From: swr-boun...@caver.net [mailto:swr-boun...@caver.net] On Behalf Of 
> Bilbo, Michael J
> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 11:17 AM
> To: 'lstarr...@gmail.com'; 's...@caver.net'
> Subject: Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo
>  
> I-ve seen that photo before and think it was mineralogy or DNA HIB trip from 
> 2008-2010 but can't I'd anyone via the Blackberry screen. On Wednesday or 
> Thursday I'll be able to look at permits to find the last Lincoln trips.
> 
> John Corcoran - can you do a search through FSCSP reports to see when the 
> last Lincoln trips were? Diana Northup -could you do same? My recollection of 
> late period pre-moratorium was a DNA HIB trip.
>  
> From: Linda Starr [mailto:lstarr...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 12:09 AM
> To: Southwestern Region  
> Subject: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo 
>  
> Hi All,
>  This photo is being used in the Lincoln Caverns Discovery story written 
> by Lee Skinner for the 50th Anniversary Memoir booklet. Does anyone out there 
> recognize this photo and know who the people are and what year this was taken?
>  Let me know if you know anything about it.
> 
> Linda Starr
> 
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Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo

2012-04-03 Thread Peter Jones
No, that is definitely not my photo.  I went into Lincoln Caverns in 2006, if I 
recall, but those aren't the people I took with me.  I would recognize that 
photo if it were mine.

The reason I said that the photo is fairly recent is based more on the clothing 
and style of hardhat the people are wearing.  People started switching over to 
tights for caving in the 90's, but I think the hardhat design on the Petzl 
helmut is a more recent version as in the 2000's.  Just hypothesizing here…

Peter

pjca...@gwi.net





On Apr 2, 2012, at 10:29 PM, John Corcoran wrote:

> Mike,
>  
> I think the photo is from Peter Jones and could be as far back as 2004.  I 
> don’t have Peter’s email address, but asked someone else to check.
>  
> Regards,
>  
> John
>  
> From: swr-boun...@caver.net [mailto:swr-boun...@caver.net] On Behalf Of 
> Bilbo, Michael J
> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 11:17 AM
> To: 'lstarr...@gmail.com'; 's...@caver.net'
> Subject: Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo
>  
> I-ve seen that photo before and think it was mineralogy or DNA HIB trip from 
> 2008-2010 but can't I'd anyone via the Blackberry screen. On Wednesday or 
> Thursday I'll be able to look at permits to find the last Lincoln trips.
> 
> John Corcoran - can you do a search through FSCSP reports to see when the 
> last Lincoln trips were? Diana Northup -could you do same? My recollection of 
> late period pre-moratorium was a DNA HIB trip.
>  
> From: Linda Starr [mailto:lstarr...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 12:09 AM
> To: Southwestern Region  
> Subject: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo 
>  
> Hi All,
>  This photo is being used in the Lincoln Caverns Discovery story written 
> by Lee Skinner for the 50th Anniversary Memoir booklet. Does anyone out there 
> recognize this photo and know who the people are and what year this was taken?
>  Let me know if you know anything about it.
> 
> Linda Starr
> 
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Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo

2012-04-03 Thread Peter Jones
No, that is definitely not my photo.  I went into Lincoln Caverns in 2006, if I 
recall, but those aren't the people I took with me.  I would recognize that 
photo if it were mine.

The reason I said that the photo is fairly recent is based more on the clothing 
and style of hardhat the people are wearing.  People started switching over to 
tights for caving in the 90's, but I think the hardhat design on the Petzl 
helmut is a more recent version as in the 2000's.  Just hypothesizing here…

Peter

pjca...@gwi.net





On Apr 2, 2012, at 10:29 PM, John Corcoran wrote:

> Mike,
>  
> I think the photo is from Peter Jones and could be as far back as 2004.  I 
> don’t have Peter’s email address, but asked someone else to check.
>  
> Regards,
>  
> John
>  
> From: swr-boun...@caver.net [mailto:swr-boun...@caver.net] On Behalf Of 
> Bilbo, Michael J
> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 11:17 AM
> To: 'lstarr...@gmail.com'; 's...@caver.net'
> Subject: Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo
>  
> I-ve seen that photo before and think it was mineralogy or DNA HIB trip from 
> 2008-2010 but can't I'd anyone via the Blackberry screen. On Wednesday or 
> Thursday I'll be able to look at permits to find the last Lincoln trips.
> 
> John Corcoran - can you do a search through FSCSP reports to see when the 
> last Lincoln trips were? Diana Northup -could you do same? My recollection of 
> late period pre-moratorium was a DNA HIB trip.
>  
> From: Linda Starr [mailto:lstarr...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 12:09 AM
> To: Southwestern Region  
> Subject: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo 
>  
> Hi All,
>  This photo is being used in the Lincoln Caverns Discovery story written 
> by Lee Skinner for the 50th Anniversary Memoir booklet. Does anyone out there 
> recognize this photo and know who the people are and what year this was taken?
>  Let me know if you know anything about it.
> 
> Linda Starr
> 
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Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo

2012-04-03 Thread Bilbo, Michael J
Trying to enlarge that on a Blackberry blurs it out too fast. So, in a 
brilliant combination of new and old technology (I bought a magnifying glass), 
yep - a wheatlamp and what appear to be Bomber Gear kneepads - possibly from 
the BLM cache. The big guy in the back looks like Frank Everitt but still 
couldn't zero in enough. I don't have Frank's email on this device so if anyone 
has the current, please forward to him and ask him to confirm yea or nay to 
Linda.

From: Linda Starr [mailto:lstarr...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 12:09 AM
To: Southwestern Region 
Subject: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo

Hi All,
 This photo is being used in the Lincoln Caverns Discovery story written by 
Lee Skinner for the 50th Anniversary Memoir booklet. Does anyone out there 
recognize this photo and know who the people are and what year this was taken?
 Let me know if you know anything about it.

Linda Starr

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Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo

2012-04-03 Thread Bilbo, Michael J
Trying to enlarge that on a Blackberry blurs it out too fast. So, in a 
brilliant combination of new and old technology (I bought a magnifying glass), 
yep - a wheatlamp and what appear to be Bomber Gear kneepads - possibly from 
the BLM cache. The big guy in the back looks like Frank Everitt but still 
couldn't zero in enough. I don't have Frank's email on this device so if anyone 
has the current, please forward to him and ask him to confirm yea or nay to 
Linda.

From: Linda Starr [mailto:lstarr...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 12:09 AM
To: Southwestern Region 
Subject: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo

Hi All,
 This photo is being used in the Lincoln Caverns Discovery story written by 
Lee Skinner for the 50th Anniversary Memoir booklet. Does anyone out there 
recognize this photo and know who the people are and what year this was taken?
 Let me know if you know anything about it.

Linda Starr

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Re: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo

2012-04-03 Thread Bilbo, Michael J
Trying to enlarge that on a Blackberry blurs it out too fast. So, in a 
brilliant combination of new and old technology (I bought a magnifying glass), 
yep - a wheatlamp and what appear to be Bomber Gear kneepads - possibly from 
the BLM cache. The big guy in the back looks like Frank Everitt but still 
couldn't zero in enough. I don't have Frank's email on this device so if anyone 
has the current, please forward to him and ask him to confirm yea or nay to 
Linda.

From: Linda Starr [mailto:lstarr...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 12:09 AM
To: Southwestern Region 
Subject: [SWR] Fwd: Lincoln Cavern photo

Hi All,
 This photo is being used in the Lincoln Caverns Discovery story written by 
Lee Skinner for the 50th Anniversary Memoir booklet. Does anyone out there 
recognize this photo and know who the people are and what year this was taken?
 Let me know if you know anything about it.

Linda Starr

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[Texascavers] Longhorn Cavern Project - April Work Trip-REMINDER

2012-04-03 Thread Mark . Alman
 

Howdy, y’all, and happy spring!

 

 

We will be conducting a work weekend at Longhorn Caverns State Park on 
Saturday, April 7th, even though it’s Easter weekend. (We’ll try not to bury or 
otherwise harm the Easter Bunny!).

 

We have plenty of projects and a need for cavers, so come on out!

 

We will have one crew working on building the stairs that go down behind the 
Indian Council room where they stash the wine for events.

 

(Sorry, there’s none there now!).

 

We also will have a crew working on the surface, carefully, over the Natural 
Bridge area, as it has been mentioned some limb and debris clearing in that 
area would be beneficial.

 

Bring hand tools, buckets, shovels, gloves, loppers, etc., if interested.

 

Finally, if we have enough help, a crew can use the fill from the Wine Area 
stairs and that pile of dirt in the Grand Ballroom could continue to be used to 
fill in the washed out trail areas in the Grand Ballroom, near the 
end/beginning of the Lover Lane trail.

 

 

We’ll be meeting at the Parking Lot up from the Visitors Center at 9 AM 
Saturday.

 

Look for my big white F250 with the SPAM/Shiner Bock/John Wayne/Luckenbach/Bat 
stickers on the back window.

 

 

We will conclude with a thru trip later on in the afternoon and an evening 
dinner at the Bluebonnet Café in Marble Falls.

 

Camping is available at the park Friday and Saturday nights

 

Please let me know if you’ll be attending and I can send you the combination to 
the gate and other tidbits.

 

Hope to see you there!

 

 

 

Thanks!

 

Mark

 

 

 



[Texascavers] Longhorn Cavern Project - April Work Trip-REMINDER

2012-04-03 Thread Mark . Alman
 

Howdy, y’all, and happy spring!

 

 

We will be conducting a work weekend at Longhorn Caverns State Park on 
Saturday, April 7th, even though it’s Easter weekend. (We’ll try not to bury or 
otherwise harm the Easter Bunny!).

 

We have plenty of projects and a need for cavers, so come on out!

 

We will have one crew working on building the stairs that go down behind the 
Indian Council room where they stash the wine for events.

 

(Sorry, there’s none there now!).

 

We also will have a crew working on the surface, carefully, over the Natural 
Bridge area, as it has been mentioned some limb and debris clearing in that 
area would be beneficial.

 

Bring hand tools, buckets, shovels, gloves, loppers, etc., if interested.

 

Finally, if we have enough help, a crew can use the fill from the Wine Area 
stairs and that pile of dirt in the Grand Ballroom could continue to be used to 
fill in the washed out trail areas in the Grand Ballroom, near the 
end/beginning of the Lover Lane trail.

 

 

We’ll be meeting at the Parking Lot up from the Visitors Center at 9 AM 
Saturday.

 

Look for my big white F250 with the SPAM/Shiner Bock/John Wayne/Luckenbach/Bat 
stickers on the back window.

 

 

We will conclude with a thru trip later on in the afternoon and an evening 
dinner at the Bluebonnet Café in Marble Falls.

 

Camping is available at the park Friday and Saturday nights

 

Please let me know if you’ll be attending and I can send you the combination to 
the gate and other tidbits.

 

Hope to see you there!

 

 

 

Thanks!

 

Mark

 

 

 



[Texascavers] Longhorn Cavern Project - April Work Trip-REMINDER

2012-04-03 Thread Mark . Alman
 

Howdy, y’all, and happy spring!

 

 

We will be conducting a work weekend at Longhorn Caverns State Park on 
Saturday, April 7th, even though it’s Easter weekend. (We’ll try not to bury or 
otherwise harm the Easter Bunny!).

 

We have plenty of projects and a need for cavers, so come on out!

 

We will have one crew working on building the stairs that go down behind the 
Indian Council room where they stash the wine for events.

 

(Sorry, there’s none there now!).

 

We also will have a crew working on the surface, carefully, over the Natural 
Bridge area, as it has been mentioned some limb and debris clearing in that 
area would be beneficial.

 

Bring hand tools, buckets, shovels, gloves, loppers, etc., if interested.

 

Finally, if we have enough help, a crew can use the fill from the Wine Area 
stairs and that pile of dirt in the Grand Ballroom could continue to be used to 
fill in the washed out trail areas in the Grand Ballroom, near the 
end/beginning of the Lover Lane trail.

 

 

We’ll be meeting at the Parking Lot up from the Visitors Center at 9 AM 
Saturday.

 

Look for my big white F250 with the SPAM/Shiner Bock/John Wayne/Luckenbach/Bat 
stickers on the back window.

 

 

We will conclude with a thru trip later on in the afternoon and an evening 
dinner at the Bluebonnet Café in Marble Falls.

 

Camping is available at the park Friday and Saturday nights

 

Please let me know if you’ll be attending and I can send you the combination to 
the gate and other tidbits.

 

Hope to see you there!

 

 

 

Thanks!

 

Mark