Re: [Texascavers] speaking of Mars ...
Logan, exactly how do you know what a Martian hand looks like? --Don > On Jan 3, 2018, at 11:19 PM, Logan McNatt via Texascavers > wrote: > > Wow! Natural or made by Martians? Looks like an obvious handprint on the > right end! > >> On 1/3/2018 11:02 PM, Mixon Bill via Texascavers wrote: >> >> >> --Mixon >> >> A chicken is the egg's way of creating another egg. >> >> You may "reply" to the address this message >> (unless it's a TexasCavers list post) >> came from, but for long-term use, save: >> Personal: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu >> AMCS: a...@mexicancaves.org or edi...@mexicancaves.org >> >> >> >> ___ >> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
[Texascavers] 2018 Deep & Punkin Trip Leaders
It’s now a new year and I am compelled to remind D&P Trip Leaders MUST be current TCMA members as required by the management plan. If you are planning to lead an upcoming trip or planning for a future trip it would be good to check your membership status. Thanks!! --Don --Don ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] November related
There’s an event, this weekend, at Robber Baron and Deep & Punkin Caves Nature Preserve has every weekend booked until 2018. --Don --Don > On Nov 10, 2017, at 5:43 PM, David via Texascavers > wrote: > > From David Locklear > ( please hit delete button now ) > > I am just wondering or curious what other cavers in Texas are doing this > weekend. > > > On a different note, it has been 10 years since the owner of Honeycreek Cave, > Johnny Gass, passed away. > > And 6 years since caver, Rod Goke, passed. > > And 10 years since Donna Mosesmann passed away. > > And it will soon be 46 years since the 2 young students from Rice University > drowned in Las Grutas de Carrizal. > > Are any cavers getting together in memory of Doug Allen ? > > As of Friday evening, I am frolicking in the town of Brehnam. > > On a different note, > > My Thanksgiving itenerary: > > There is a 1% chance I will be in Monterrey, Mexico celebrating Thanksgiving > with my sister-in-law. > ( Colonia Las Fuentes, below the west face of Cerro de la Silla ) > > I have an urgent psychological need to get out of Harris County. I have gone > stir-crazy from all the Tropical Storm Harvey bullsh*t. I am shoulder-deep > in it.That is partly why I am in Brenham this evening. > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] [TCR 2017 Success!]
Yummy and fantastic! And FREE!! --Don --Don > On Oct 15, 2017, at 8:11 PM, Bill Steele via Texascavers > wrote: > > How’d the Shiner beer work out? ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
[Texascavers] [TCR 2017 Success!]
Hey everyone, another successful Texas cavers reunion is behind us now, well done! Good job everybody! It was awesome! IT WAS! Not much to report in the Lost & Found Department this year, for once, yay! The owner is happy, the park is clean. Next years deposit is paid, no date set yet. THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HELP!!! I didn’t want to harsh your mellow, on Saturday night, but 2017 was my last TCR as Director. I did six TCRs. I’m sorry folks, it was fun, rewarding and an adventure! My resignation is on a high point, I feel, with TCR is in good shape with a head start on 2018, with a year to solve my absence. The music was very very good! The food was very very good! Great job!! We had INTERNATIONAL Cavers visit from Mexico! We had David Locklear! The NSS represented! The Texas Contingent represented! The Aggies had a challenging Speleolympics course! There was a REBELAY course! We had a hot tub, sauna AND spring water! There was a SLIDESHOW! There were POWERWAGONS in service! There was a HUGE board game. There were barbarian Viking HOARDS!! We had MUD GLADIATORS!! There was schmoozing, I SAW IT! People smiled! What more can you ask for? I’m happy! Thank you —Don ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
[Texascavers] [Free Carbide @ TCR]
Bring a carbide light get two free fills of carbide! --Don (No giant lamps please, I’m not giving you a gallon of carbide because you’re a smartass) --Don ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
[Texascavers] Fwd: [TCR]
We're having a wine tasting on Friday. It will be fancy. Be like Bennett and hold-yer-pinky-out while drinking yer wine. We will start just before dark 30. Normally by the river in the center of camp. Look for the large group of people and even more wine... --Josef of Wetpants___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
[Texascavers] [TCR]
Eight days away! Temperatures are forecast to be really nice, current estimates are are a high of 73° Friday! Please bring cash. I’ll open the gate Thursday around 1 pm, then close it just after dark, then open it again Friday morning. If you plan on arriving after dark Thursday, better let me know BEFORE Thursday. No glass near the river. Pets and children are welcome if they are well behaved, you will be expected to pick up after them, fights will result in ejection. Please, no percussion instruments at the hot tub, once again the rental house at the dam is occupied by a deputy, we want to keep him happy. If you see non Cavers in the park please let me know, it is our private reunion. EVERYONE WILL SIGN A PARK LIABILITY WAIVER. Some ice will be available, but don’t expect us to keep your cooler filled with it, the cooks have priority. The cooks have been working hard to provide us with a meal Saturday evening and there will be breakfast fundraising too! As usual Paradise Canyon has cabins and one RV for rent, please make arraignments through them. There are now a few RV spaces with electricity and water too, also make arrangements through Paradise Canyon. Anyone needing directions contact me I’d be happy to share. As usual I am excited and look forward to seeing you there! --Ragnar d...@oztotl.com ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
[Texascavers] [TCR•Cash]
TCR is twenty three days away! Please bring cash for TCR & vendors & memberships. The valley is a cellular dead zone prohibiting electronic funds transfer. Pass it along, please? Thanks! --Odin Oztotl ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] [Texas Cavers Reunion]
Ha! Not sure how that happened! But the FIFTEENTH is the actual end, but there's no reason one can't just keep celebrating... --Don > On Sep 11, 2017, at 6:23 PM, Allan Cobb via Texascavers > wrote: > > So, TCR is now a week long event? > >> On 9/11/2017 1:02 PM, Don Arburn via Texascavers wrote: >> Paradise Canyons gates open after noon this October 12 to the 19th > > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
[Texascavers] [Texas Cavers Reunion]
"Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you can be crunchy and taste good with ketchup." Paradise Canyons gates open after noon this October 12 to the 19th, for the 40th annual Texas Cavers Reunion! Vikings & Barbarians! Word has been out for some time now, and the time is almost here! Cavers have been caving and are ready to tell their tales! Let's get together with our caver family in an awesome setting and enjoy each other's company. Many new cavers need to be introduced to the old timers & traditions of Texas Caving! Contests, T-Shirts, Swimming, Prizes, the great outdoors and a Parade! $30 for individuals $15 for old timers (Odin gets in for free) $15 for kids $80 for families Come support and celebrate your Caver family! The 40th annual Texas Cavers Reunion will be at Paradise Canyon park below Medina Lake on the beautiful Medina River. There will be the usual revelry! Rope contests, surveying contests, mud wrestling contests, speleolympic contests, costume contest, kegs of Shiner & Lobo beer, story telling, swimming, parade, hot tubbing, door prizes, kayaking, river tubing, slides, sashaying, mooching, lying, goofing off, horse play, dumbassery, giddiness, hugging, handshaking, camping, mocking, and general capering about. Come early, on Thursday for the primo campsites. There are four cabins and an RV, plus RV spots for rent through Paradise Canyon, please contact them for price and arrangements. If you are a Saxon, Viking, Barbarian, caver, spelunker, troglodyte, cave manager, cave guide, cave owner, cave archeologist, cave lover, cave explorer, cave diver, cave biologist, cave geologist, cave hydrologist, cave climber, cave squeezer, cave aficionado, cave critter, or caver supporter, caver financier, cave surveyor, cave mapper, naked caver, cave gear vendor, long suffering cave spouse, cave divorcee, cave widow please consider attending. If you aren't, you will be vetted, someone better vouch for you or we may use you as a bad example and let the Viking hoards have you. If you have children or pets, please keep them leashed, clean up after them (bring your own poo bags). They are welcome but we expect them to be quiet and well mannered. Poorly mannered children and pets will be handed over to Grendel for disposal. Please bring your own utensils for the Big Feed on Saturday night. Please: NO GLASS CONTAINERS in the park. None. If you are a cook, you are not included in this mandate, unless you go near the river. Also, no driving the vehicles to the lower level camping areas, the owner has installed rock walls and planters that now prevent this, sorry. Please help us keep the park owner happy with us by being conscientious with trash, the park is open to the public during the rest of the year and bottle caps, twist ties and other minutea of debris gets left behind. With so many environmentalists present at once during our event if everyone picked up a few things the park would SPARKLE, so will the owner's smile! Create a prize winning, memorable Barbarian or Viking costume! Get on it!! BEYOND HERE BE DRAGONS don at oztotl dot com --Don___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
[Texascavers] [FYI] [@texascaversreunion] [Facebook]
FYI For those who may not know TCR has a Facebook page. One may search for it using: @texascaversreunion Keep up with the latest notices, notifications & information. TCR needs a registration volunteer, Kris Peña cannot make it this year. Chat with Rob Bisset! ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] [TCR Kegs]&[Freetail Brewing]
Thank you Bill, you are awesome. More awesome than the rest, whom no one has stepped up to retrieve them yet. --Don --Don > On Aug 8, 2017, at 6:48 AM, Bill Steele via Texascavers > wrote: > > Yes, I'll line up a Shiner beer donation for TCR again once I'm back in Texas > in mid-Sept. I need to know who is picking up and returning the kegs before I > ask for the donation. > > Bill Steele > speleoste...@aol.com > >> On Aug 8, 2017, at 2:03 PM, Don Arburn via Texascavers >> wrote: >> >> Anyone volunteering to get Kegs from Shiner, if the Man of Steele, works his >> magic again? >> >> Also >> >> Anyone have a contact over at Freetail Brewing? >> >> --Don >> >> >> >> --Don >> ___ >> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
[Texascavers] [TCR Kegs]&[Freetail Brewing]
Anyone volunteering to get Kegs from Shiner, if the Man of Steele, works his magic again? Also Anyone have a contact over at Freetail Brewing? --Don --Don ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
[Texascavers] [D&P Trip This Weekend]
An impromptu trip is happening to Deep this weekend. If interested shoot me a note there's four at this point. I'm installing data loggers. --Don --Don ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Don Arburn
And why have you not spoken to her? It's not like she is a recluse, introvert or in hiding. Amy, please talk to Old Man Wisdom. --Don > On Jul 14, 2017, at 8:32 PM, Charles Loving wrote: > > Well good but I have had zero contact with this person who is head cook. Like > I said I had a lot of things that I was lining up. But with zero contact with > this AMY I have decided to retreat. > >> On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 8:24 PM, Don Arburn wrote: >> I replied to your FB post. I have not disappeared, I am not hiding, I am >> easy to find. Amy Morton is head cook. She has created a FB TCR cooks page >> for just these discussions. As I said before, you need to speak with her. We >> welcome your help, experience and insight. >> >> We must take possession of the cooks trailer and she and I must inventory it >> FIRST. >> >> We need meat. >> >> My last name is spelt aRburn >> >> >> --Don >> >> >> >> >> --Don >> > On Jul 14, 2017, at 8:18 PM, Charles Loving via Texascavers >> > wrote: >> > >> > This chap seems to have disappeared. I volunteered to help cook but got >> > zero response. I had a few of the old caver cooks in line but since there >> > seems to be zero interest. Don i had a few things lined up but it seems >> > that no one cares that there is anything organized. So black beans, a hog, >> > fajitas, corn on the cob and salad and desert are up to you now since no >> > one seems to give a damn that we could produce this. Sorry Mr Don. Lost >> > and gone forever dreadful sorry Clemintine. >> > >> > -- >> > Charlie Loving >> > ___ >> > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >> > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >> > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >> > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > > > > -- > Charlie Loving ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Don Arburn
I replied to your FB post. I have not disappeared, I am not hiding, I am easy to find. Amy Morton is head cook. She has created a FB TCR cooks page for just these discussions. As I said before, you need to speak with her. We welcome your help, experience and insight. We must take possession of the cooks trailer and she and I must inventory it FIRST. We need meat. My last name is spelt aRburn --Don --Don > On Jul 14, 2017, at 8:18 PM, Charles Loving via Texascavers > wrote: > > This chap seems to have disappeared. I volunteered to help cook but got zero > response. I had a few of the old caver cooks in line but since there seems to > be zero interest. Don i had a few things lined up but it seems that no one > cares that there is anything organized. So black beans, a hog, fajitas, corn > on the cob and salad and desert are up to you now since no one seems to give > a damn that we could produce this. Sorry Mr Don. Lost and gone forever > dreadful sorry Clemintine. > > -- > Charlie Loving > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Home Sweet Home ?
Good advice. --Don > On Jun 22, 2017, at 10:56 PM, Barb > > Perhaps purchase your plane ticket for Montana now and by the time > convention rolls around you will have it paid for and no worries. > > Barb Coons ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] meat for TCR
And I have freezer space. --Don > On Feb 21, 2017, at 1:35 PM, Jim Kennedy via Texascavers > wrote: > > Axis, aoudad, and pig is all good. If the new cooks don't want it, I'll take > it. Vico and I can butcher and freeze it, and enjoy it cooked in many > delicious dishes. > > Crash > > Mobile email from my iPhone > >> On Feb 21, 2017, at 7:19 AM, Charles Loving via Texascavers >> wrote: >> >> OK get in touch with Vico. We can work on this. We will have to shoot the >> small ones. Mac and I will set up traps next week and bait them. We were >> getting one a day for about three months awhile back. what about Aoudads? >> They are pretty rank but the small ones are sort of like cabrito. They are a >> pest too, destroy crops and such. And of course we could get an Axisi deer. >> The vegans will rebel I am sure and the PETA people will freak out but these >> three types of critters are bad news. > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Tcr cooks
I have freezer space. --Don --Don > On Feb 20, 2017, at 6:24 PM, Charles Loving via Texascavers > wrote: > > If Vico wants a hog I have a dozen or so to shoot. > >> On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 1:39 PM, Eric Flint via Texascavers >> wrote: >> Well guess I'll toss it out. Unless some one else steps up I'm cook boss >> this year. We are have hamburgers and hotdogs. Thank you Charlie Loving for >> making me feel a lot better about making this menu desision. I haven't >> decided if you people deserve katchup yet. >> ___ >> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > > > > -- > Charlie Loving > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] TCR food
I've donated meat. Two steers. I don't see anything wrong with a hog turning on a spit. Surely we know hunters. --Don > On Feb 18, 2017, at 6:25 PM, David via Texascavers > wrote: > > If you are not going to have a hog rotating over a wood fire and fire-roasted > vegetables then why even have a dinner ?Or at least some food cooked over > wood, or at least charcoal. > > I am just curious when was the last time that the hog's head was the > centerpiece of the table ? > > I hope to arrive at TCR on Saturday at 5 pm. and hopefully find some leftover > scraps. > > I can only pray that I will be single by then. > > David Locklear > > > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] [TCR Food]
About $2K. I cannot speak to the number of volunteers as I'm not involved with cooking. --Don > On Feb 10, 2017, at 2:46 PM, Crystal Datri via Texascavers > wrote: > > What's a typical food budget? How many cooking volunteers are there in a > typical year? > > Thank you, > Crystal Datri ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
[Texascavers] [TCR Food]
Currently TCR doesn't have a head cook, or menu. There have been complaints, rumors and talk about this subject. It seems there are three options: (a) fend for yourselves, (b) caterer, (c) volunteers come forward to cook. Each has its benefit and drawbacks. I need to get a feel for options. Discuss: --Tex Caver --Don___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] 39th Annual Texas Cavers Reunion
In that case I apologize. I should respect my elders, even if they think I suck. --Don --Don > On Feb 8, 2017, at 6:33 PM, Charles Loving via Texascavers > wrote: > > Don; > That was a nasty response. I am 75 and can't walk that well. I did my duty > and I do not like your and I will say this shitty attitude. I have been to > OTR and so what if it has a different name now. I call it OTR because I am > old and senile and will die soon. So you can keep doing what you do and I > will enjoy the comrades and forego the food. ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] 39th Annual Texas Cavers Reunion
I’ve found that TCR's biggest critics are NEVER step up and help. NEVER. You got attitude because of your nasty criticisms. Touché. > On Feb 8, 2017, at 6:33 PM, Charles Loving via Texascavers > wrote: > > Don; > That was a nasty response. I am 75 and can't walk that well. I did my duty > and I do not like your and I will say this shitty attitude. I have been to > OTR and so what if it has a different name now. I call it OTR because I am > old and senile and will die soon. So you can keep doing what you do and I > will enjoy the comrades and forego the food. > > On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 6:31 PM, Don Arburn via Texascavers > mailto:texascavers@texascavers.com>> wrote: >> On Feb 8, 2017, at 6:02 PM, Charles Loving via Texascavers >> mailto:texascavers@texascavers.com>> wrote: > >> >> Why are we stuck at Paradise Canyon? > > Charles, get over it. Paradise Canyon agreed to a good price if we kept TCR > there for the next 5 years. If no one hasn't noticed things are getting more > expensive these days. If you can find a better price than what we are > currently paying with as many amenities, showers, river, electricity, > bathrooms, ice, picnic tables, porto-potties, nice green manicured camping, > Lodges with baths and A/C. What are you griping about, we haven’t seen you > there in some time anyway. Besides weren’t you happy there was LODGING with > A/C there? I distinctly remember you asking about it. > >> The OTR used to be fun when it moved around. > > Well, this isn’t OTR. > >> Now it is in a rut. Paradise Canyon is OK but to me it is incredibly boring >> after the tenth time. I recall the first one where I and a few other cooked >> at Luckenbach. Then a lot of places all over Central Texas. Now it is stuck, >> dead in the water. > > Dead? Are you volunteering to honcho it up? I’d be happy to turn it over to > you. Just say the word and it’s all yours. > >> OK I was chief cook for 20 years and has a myriad of volunteer people who >> were involved in cooking. We had a rule for our volunteer cooks and there >> were about 35 or 40 of them. The rule was cook what you want but cook, but >> enough. Enough was a nebulous figure. We had tons of corn on the cob from >> the valley. Fish from Galveston, A roast pig, brisket, beef clod, chicken, >> turkey, hot links from Fredericksburg, bean salad, fruit salad, salad salad, >> black beans, refried beans, tortillas, pie, cake, cookies, a million >> brownies, chicken, Hatch chilis, gazpacho. all manner of stuff, we once had >> quail, and the people gobbled it up. > > Great! Since we lost our cook last year, it sounds like you would be the > perfect head cook. Are you volunteering? That menu sounds awesome, go ahead > and purchase the stuff and get me a reciept and I’ll put you down as head > cook. HEY EVERBODY! IGOR IS OUR NEW HEAD COOK! WOOO!! > >> All prepared by THE CAVER COOKS for the fun of cooking it. That tradition >> has died it would seem. Maybe caver don't cook anymore? Not sure why but the >> old cooks never got any new cooks to volunteer to take the reins. > > Well, seeing you haven't come to a -TCR- (Texas Cavers Reunion, been named > that for only the last THIRTY EIGHT YEARS) you have totally missed out on > some fine cooking by the experts we have that ACTUALLY STEPPED UP and > VOLUNTEERED. Stefan and Vico and the rest of the COOKS have done an awesome > and thankless job for everybody. But of course your stepping up will easily > surpass their cooking, no? We look forward to it! > >> Maybe there was a great loss in cooking ability. I hate to say this but I >> haven't eaten the meal at OTR is four years. I am not sure why because I pay >> for it, but the last one just didn't meet my expectations. I apologize to >> those who worked so hard and long but what is, is and I am a dyed in the >> wool food Nazi. We didn't need a food trailer to cook in we just built fires >> and got after it. > > Well that's just awesome, good for you. Sorry you’ll be disappointed for the > next five years. Maybe you should just keep staying home. > >> On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 3:42 PM, Don Arburn via Texascavers >> mailto:texascavers@texascavers.com>> wrote: >> Paradise Canyon >> October 12-15, 2017 > > > > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com <http://texascavers.com/> > Texascavers@texascavers.com <mailto:Texascavers@texascavers.com> | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > <http://www.
Re: [Texascavers] 39th Annual Texas Cavers Reunion
> On Feb 8, 2017, at 6:02 PM, Charles Loving via Texascavers > mailto:texascavers@texascavers.com>> wrote: > > Why are we stuck at Paradise Canyon? Charles, get over it. Paradise Canyon agreed to a good price if we kept TCR there for the next 5 years. If no one hasn't noticed things are getting more expensive these days. If you can find a better price than what we are currently paying with as many amenities, showers, river, electricity, bathrooms, ice, picnic tables, porto-potties, nice green manicured camping, Lodges with baths and A/C. What are you griping about, we haven’t seen you there in some time anyway. Besides weren’t you happy there was LODGING with A/C there? I distinctly remember you asking about it. > The OTR used to be fun when it moved around. Well, this isn’t OTR. > Now it is in a rut. Paradise Canyon is OK but to me it is incredibly boring > after the tenth time. I recall the first one where I and a few other cooked > at Luckenbach. Then a lot of places all over Central Texas. Now it is stuck, > dead in the water. Dead? Are you volunteering to honcho it up? I’d be happy to turn it over to you. Just say the word and it’s all yours. > OK I was chief cook for 20 years and has a myriad of volunteer people who > were involved in cooking. We had a rule for our volunteer cooks and there > were about 35 or 40 of them. The rule was cook what you want but cook, but > enough. Enough was a nebulous figure. We had tons of corn on the cob from the > valley. Fish from Galveston, A roast pig, brisket, beef clod, chicken, > turkey, hot links from Fredericksburg, bean salad, fruit salad, salad salad, > black beans, refried beans, tortillas, pie, cake, cookies, a million > brownies, chicken, Hatch chilis, gazpacho. all manner of stuff, we once had > quail, and the people gobbled it up. Great! Since we lost our cook last year, it sounds like you would be the perfect head cook. Are you volunteering? That menu sounds awesome, go ahead and purchase the stuff and get me a reciept and I’ll put you down as head cook. HEY EVERBODY! IGOR IS OUR NEW HEAD COOK! WOOO!! > All prepared by THE CAVER COOKS for the fun of cooking it. That tradition has > died it would seem. Maybe caver don't cook anymore? Not sure why but the old > cooks never got any new cooks to volunteer to take the reins. Well, seeing you haven't come to a -TCR- (Texas Cavers Reunion, been named that for only the last THIRTY EIGHT YEARS) you have totally missed out on some fine cooking by the experts we have that ACTUALLY STEPPED UP and VOLUNTEERED. Stefan and Vico and the rest of the COOKS have done an awesome and thankless job for everybody. But of course your stepping up will easily surpass their cooking, no? We look forward to it! > Maybe there was a great loss in cooking ability. I hate to say this but I > haven't eaten the meal at OTR is four years. I am not sure why because I pay > for it, but the last one just didn't meet my expectations. I apologize to > those who worked so hard and long but what is, is and I am a dyed in the wool > food Nazi. We didn't need a food trailer to cook in we just built fires and > got after it. Well that's just awesome, good for you. Sorry you’ll be disappointed for the next five years. Maybe you should just keep staying home. > On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 3:42 PM, Don Arburn via Texascavers > mailto:texascavers@texascavers.com>> wrote: > Paradise Canyon > October 12-15, 2017 ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] 39th Annual Texas Cavers Reunion
Not you. --Don > On Feb 7, 2017, at 3:49 PM, Stefan Creaser via Texascavers > wrote: > > Who is going to cook? > > Stefan Creaser ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
[Texascavers] 39th Annual Texas Cavers Reunion
Paradise Canyon October 12-15, 2017 --Texas Caver ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] [BexarGrotto] Bexar Grotto Christmas Party - December 17th at 6 pm Casa de Schindel
I miss the furry bra. --Don > On Dec 8, 2016, at 2:07 PM, Geary Schindel > wrote: > > Folks, > The Bexar Grotto Holiday Party will be held on Saturday, December 17th from 6 > pm until whenever at Geary and Sue Schindel’s house located at 11310 Whisper > Dawn in San Antonio. Phone is 210.479.2151. This is the same location as last > year. The grotto will be providing a ham and other fixings and attendees are > asked to bring an appropriate dish or dishes. There is a grill available in > the backyard but we also encourage folks to bring dishes that have already > been prepared as much of the kitchen space is taken up by blenders and glass > containers and there is little room to prepare a dish. There is a microwave, > oven, and stove top for heating up dishes as necessary. > The grotto will not be providing adult beverages but please feel free to > bring your own beverage of choice. Please make sure that you drink > responsibly. > There will also be a White Elephant gift exchange with certain restrictions. > Gifts in the $5 to $20 range are appropriate and creative homemade gifts are > always appreciated – especially if they are funny or related to caving (maybe > another “Cat O 9” will make an appearance). The house rules are that If you > receive a gift, you must take it home. If no one takes your gift, you have > to take that home also. The only exception is beer, wine, or liquor – you can > leave that. We would also encourage you to take home your dishes you bring > and check out the selection as you may have one left over from last year. > Please no pets as gifts – they tend to be left behind and usually end up in > my neighbor’s yard for some reason. > We’re all for a separate exchange for kids if a parent wants to organize > that. My kids are great so no, you can’t change your kids for my kids no > matter how much my kids beg. > Couple of ground rules: > · Event attire is Christmas Casual. That means you’re welcome to > dress up or not but please, make sure you change out of caving cloths and > leave muddy boots in the car. If you need a shower before the party, we have > a hose in the backyard. > · If you’ve had too much to drink, we will find someone to drive you > home or find a place for you at or under the house. > · Kids are welcome but they need to be well behaved. No running in > and out of the house or playing around the fire in the backyard. Our house is > not kid proof and we don’t want anyone hurt. > · > · Please be careful where you park and don’t block any of the > neighbor’s drive ways. However, street parking is fair game so don’t let > anyone tell you otherwise. No open containers in the street and please don’t > throw any bottles in people’s front or backyards. > · The hot tub is hot and open for business. If you want to get in, > plan accordingly. Please no diving or jumping and no snorkels and masks and > there is no lifeguard on duty. Tub at your own risk. > · Please leave your guns at home. > · No keg stands, that resulted in some pretty messy accidents at the > last party and we don’t need that in the house. > · If you get a Cat O Nine Tails in the gift exchange, we would > recommend you put it away as they can leave some nasty long term marks for > the inexperienced. > > · No pets, including service animals. We now have three pets that > don’t tolerate other animals very well – no matter how well trained they are. > · Stay off the roof and out of the trees – no good can come of it > (geezzz. I hate having to keep posting this every year). > Hopefully, the ground rules aren’t too restrictive. > Geary and Sue Schindel > 11310 Whisper Dawn > San Antonio, Texas 78230 > 210.479.2151 phone > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Bexar Grotto" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to bexargrotto+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] TSA - CBSP December Project Weekend
Joe Noshoulders Cascavel Danger Noperope Bitey McFangface --Don --Don > On Dec 6, 2016, at 9:10 PM, Leslie Bell via Texascavers > wrote: > > For those of you who speak Latin, it's called Crotalus atrox > as colloquially there are too many variations to list. 'nuff said. > > From: Andy Gluesenkamp via Texascavers > To: texascavers@texascavers.com > Cc: cbsp-...@googlegroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2016 5:42 PM > Subject: Re: [Texascavers] TSA - CBSP December Project Weekend > > The animal is a chain-link buzzworm. Carry on. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Dec 6, 2016, at 5:09 PM, Will Quast via Texascavers >> wrote: >> >> Remember that this weekend, Dec 10th, is the 3rd TSA-CBSP Project Weekend of >> the 2016-2017 season. The weather should be nice and chilly with very low >> chances of rain. We will be camping at Caver Camp. >> If you are thinking about attending, YOU MUST EMAIL me and reserve your >> space BEFORE NOON FRIDAY. I am obligated to provide the list of volunteers >> to the Park by this time. >> Please read the the information and understand the rules posted at >> http://www.cavetexas.org/projects/cbsp.html . >> >> Here is a photo of a long skinny animal seen in the park, can you identify >> him? https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/35637124/DSC02365.JPG >> >> William Quast >> cbsp@gmail.com >> ___ >> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > > > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Place
Also, it's not like I didn't mention those cabins every single year I've had TCR at PC, or the multiple times I've mentioned the cabins -each year- on Texascavers or the TCR Facebook page or each Texas Grotto's FB page. Or that Paradise Canyon's very own website mentions them too, or that word of mouth from the cavers that have stayed in the cabins each year like Bill Russell & Katy or Fritz... I've even posted in the NSS news with my contact info for just such questions --Don --Don > On Oct 30, 2016, at 6:07 PM, Charles Loving via Texascavers > wrote: > > Never knew that. The ones at Flat Creek were free? > >> On Sun, Oct 30, 2016 at 6:04 PM, Linda Palit via Texascavers >> wrote: >> There are cabins right across the road from Paradise canyon, part of the >> same property. >>> On Sun, Oct 30, 2016 at 5:55 PM Charles Loving via Texascavers >>> wrote: >>> Why can't we go back to Flat Creek? They have ten cabins and a hotel on >>> site where the foogies can stay. I like the canyon but I have to always >>> leave before dark because I can't drive at night. If they had a bedroom >>> maybe I would hang arou d longer and get drunk or something like that. >>> >>> -- >>> Charlie Loving >>> ___ >>> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >>> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >>> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers >> >> ___ >> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > > > > -- > Charlie Loving > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Place
There are 4 fully furnished cabins and an RV at PC. Not to mention Castroville and those hotels & motels being 15 minutes away, or that San Antonio and those hotels less than 20 minutes away. Best get on board, I've arranged it to be at PC for the next five years. --Don --Don > On Oct 30, 2016, at 5:55 PM, Charles Loving via Texascavers > wrote: > > Why can't we go back to Flat Creek? They have ten cabins and a hotel on site > where the foogies can stay. I like the canyon but I have to always leave > before dark because I can't drive at night. If they had a bedroom maybe I > would hang arou d longer and get drunk or something like that. > > -- > Charlie Loving > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] The Texas Caver
As a trained and educated artist, recent volunteer Texas Cavers Reunion cat herder, and past Texas Caver Editor (a particularly thankless job) I have always found plenty of folks to endlessly criticize or complain, it's an integral part of the job and one learns to recognize the difference between "criticism" & "opinion". However, novices (volunteers who stepped up to do a job when no one else would) aren't usually trained or skilled or ready to deal with criticism. It can be counterproductive. At TCR typically I ask critics to step up and help solve whatever they think isn't happening to their expectation. One of two things happens; they step up and do something -or- they shut up and do nothing. In my experience the vast majority of complainers choose the latter. At TCR, lots of people voice ideas about how it -should- be done, and I get tons of criticism of how "it got done wrong", or how "it should be done in the future" or how "it was done better in the past". Plenty of suggestions, oodles of constructive ideas. But when it come time for those same volunteers to step up and stand behind their suggestions and help - very very few ever follow through. Ever. They usually disappear with the words "how about helping out then?" The ones that actually see the job done are the ones who want it done and do it. Criticism can be constructive, such as when someone expects it or asks for it. Or the critic is willing to step in and help firsthand, which is usually welcomed. Especially useful are wisdom and experience. Otherwise it's just opinion. When someone is struggling on the side of a busy highway trying to change a flat tire, it's real easy to drive past and shout out the window "lift with your knees!" --Don --Don > On Oct 26, 2016, at 11:05 AM, Carl Kunath via Texascavers > wrote: > > The Texas Caver > > So here we go again with the Texas Caver. Every few years we are seeking a > new editor or at least discussing options that might disburse the rowdy > crowds that are assembling at the gates with torches and pitchforks. > > What is gong on here? Why is it that every few years there is a Texas Caver > crisis and a less than graceful transition to a new editor? > > There is lots of talk about the Texas Caver. From the outset, there seems to > have been some confusion regarding the difference between good journalism and > nice graphic arts. Unfortunately, neither has been regularly in evidence. > Maybe I've missed it, but I can't recall anyone praising the Caver for high > quality journalism or the reliability of production. The editor has a few > passionate defenders who are willing to do battle with any and all > detractors, but the current editorial has now acknowledged what has been > evident for several years. > > The coming transition is an opportunity to learn from previous mistakes. > Texas cavers appreciate good grammar, proper spelling, and nice graphics but, > failing that, are willing to forgive a lot if the Caver shows signs of having > been carefully crafted with attention to detail: nice photographs properly > captioned and credited; articles well laid out with all elements present; no > space used as a personal blog; and perhaps most importantly, timely > production. > > I was handed a copy of the most recent Texas Caver at the TSA meeting Sunday > morning, October 16. When I looked at the cover, my first thought was "huh?" > I rotated the page through 360 degrees as I searched in vain for a person > or anything for scale. Despairing, I then looked inside for the caption > information. I didn't find much. The picture credits Peter Bosted and > apparently depicts a scene from the Big Island, Hawaii. I infer that it > pictures something within a cave and is not merely a hand sample from a flea > market or mineral show. As usual, there is no proper caption information. A > closer look at the cover reveals "haul" to be misspelled and a Government > Canyon report proffered as being from "2105." Those errors are egregious > and, sadly, are but a preview of others to come. > > In the present issue (the word "current" can't properly be applied since it > is about six months late), pages 4 and 5 are mostly filled with > pictures—none with caption information—and the top photo on page 4 suffers > from a lack of pixel information by at least one order of magnitude. Where > is the graphic arts expertise we are often reminded of? If a photo is > essential and a small file is the best available, then please reduce the > printed size. At the top of page 5 there is a full half page devoted to two > guys stirring a large pot of food. What about the "hero" shot at the top of > page 6? Neither photo is captioned or credited. It's a poor use of space > that TSA's hard copy subscribers are paying for. In fact, there is a lot of > "white space" in every issue. I am reminded of some prior issues with long > per
Re: [Texascavers] potential future TCR attendees
No such thing as a free lunch. David, go ahead and start putting a hundred dollar bill in the TCR bank each month and by the time 12 months rolls around we can implement this scheme. Double that amount and we can pay for a caterer, triple that hundred dollar deposit and we can add a live band too. --Don --Don > On Oct 18, 2016, at 11:54 AM, David via Texascavers > wrote: > > The purpose of this post is not to make anybody mad or hurt their feelings > for missing TCR 2016. The purpose is to create an aid to help the guru who > is in charge of getting the word out about TCR 2017. > > I am starting a list of potential attendees ( off the top of my head ) that > MUST > receive early "personal" invitations to attend TCR with a possible incentive > to encourage > them to come such as "free admission," or a free door-prize, etc. > > I think this list needs to be in a Wiki-page, so that everybody can edit it > and > add and remove names or improve on it somehow.I have no idea yet > how to make Wiki pages, but hope to learn next year. > > Here is a short list of just 43 cavers ( in alphabetical order ): > [ sidenote: the text in parenthesis is just my mental way of cataloging them > in > my repressed-memory-banks, and is inaccurate ] > > > > Pete Baron ( A.S.S. President 1994 ) > > Rick Corbell ( Bexar Grotto 80's to present ) > > Charles "Chuck" Cluck ( DFW 1990's, on Linkedin ) > > Michael & Amber Currie ( A.S.S. 1993, live in Loveland, Colorado ) > > George & Kay Crosby ( active Louisiana cavers in 1980's ) > > Sid Formanek ( GHG, 50+ years of active caving ) > Don Formanek ( GHG, 50+ years of active caving ) > > Alan Glennon ( A.S.S. President 1993 ) > Ashley Glennon ( A.S.S. President 1985 ) > Bob Glennon ( DFW 1960's ) > > Will Harris ( A.S.S. late 80's, I think ) > > Dr. Tom Iliffe ( life-long professional caver in Galveston ? ) > > James and Mimi Jasek ( lifetime Waco cavers ) > > Tommy Joe ( GHG late 1990's ) > > David Jones ( GHG 1990, has a welding shop in Terlingua ?? ) > > Tim Jones ( A.S.S. President 1987, lives in Austin ) > > Travis Kitchen ( A.S.S. late 80's, I think ) > > Cesar Koppel ( A.S.S. 1985, from Nuevo Laredo, but once moved to Austin ) > > Carl Phillip Fromen ( GHG, bad-ass rope-climber, 1990's ) > > James Loftin ( Bexar Grotto, very active caver in 1980's ) > > David Mainz ( A.S.S. member 1987, lives in San Antonio ) > > > Mary Kay Manning ( A.S.S. member 85-86 ) > James Manning ( active caver in 1950's and lives in Dickinson, Texas ) > > Mr. Seco Mayfield ( owns a cave somewhere ) > > Carol McGee ( GHG President - 1980's ) > > Kenny McGee ( GHG Artist - 1980's ) > > Emily McGowan ( GHG officer ~1996 - 2007 ) > > Kevin McGowan ( GHG President ~ 1996 - 2007 ) > > > > Mark McIntyre ( A.S.S. 1985, maybe lives in Colorado ) > > AnnMarie Mikelski ( Del Rio caver - 1990's era ) > > R.D. Milholin ( current Fort Worth caver/cave-diver ) > > Roger Moore ( GHG President 1995 ) > > Jim Mueller ( A.S.S. President 1984 ) > > Pam Ozkowsky ( GHG member 1989 moved to Bexar Grotto ) > > Lee Perry ( A.S.S. 1987, lives in Albuequerque > > Mike Pearson ( Loftin's sidekick ?? ) > > Freddie Platt ( A.S.S. 1984, missing for 32 years ) > > John Ragsdale ( A.S.S. 1984, works at A&M in College Station ) > > George Sanders ( GHG 1990's era ) > > > > Travis Scott ( A.S.S. most active caver ) > Amanda Scott ( A.S.S.) > > Troy Shelton ( DFW caver late 1980's ) > > Susan Shupak ( Cronak ? ) ( A.S.S. 1985 ) > > Tom Summers ( owns a cave somewhere ) > > Jackie Thomas ( west texas caver - 2000 era ) > > Steve Tonnessen ( A.S.S. 1984, maybe lives in Austin ) > > Lyndon Tiu ( GHG 2000 era, email: lyndon.tiu at gmail.com ) > > Spencer Wood ( Bexar Grotto - 1980's ) > > Eddie Yonemoto ( GHG 1990's era ) > > I have zero info on old Corpus Christi cavers or Lubbock cavers, > or west Texas cavers, etc.There are a 100 NSS members scattered > across east Texas, listed in the member's manual. > > Also, I think the TSA should at least make an offer to pay the gas & food > to a NCKRI representative and an NSS representative to set up a booth. > > > I have emails and Facebook addresses for some of the people listed > above, and have already contacted them. > > David Locklear > NSS # 27639 > > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
[Texascavers] [Looking for canon video]
Hoping there is video of the canon firing and/or smoke ring. Contact me. --Don ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] [TCR T-Shirts Request For Transport to Paradise Canyon]
I don't think he can. He requested them to be picked up at his place. --Don --Don > On Oct 11, 2016, at 11:29 PM, Stefan Creaser via Texascavers > wrote: > > I can, probably, since I'm bringing a trailer. Can he get them to me? > > Stefan Creaser > Staff Design Engineer; Physical Design Group; ARM > 5707 Southwest Parkway, Bldg 1, Suite 100, Austin, TX 78735, USA. > Direct: +1-512-314-1012, Internal: 11012. > Email: stefan.crea...@arm.com. Skype: stefan_creaser > > > -Original Message- > From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of > Don Arburn via Texascavers > Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 11:27 PM > To: TSA Cavers List > Subject: [Texascavers] [TCR T-Shirts Request For Transport to Paradise Canyon] > > Chris has prior obligations and cannot bring the TCR shirts to Paradise > Canyon. Is there anyone in the Austin area, or passing through, able to pick > up the two boxes of shirts and see them to this years reunion? Wednesday is > his best day to do this. Please? > > --Don > > > > --Don > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are > confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended > recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the > contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the > information in any medium. Thank you. > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
[Texascavers] [TCR T-Shirts Request For Transport to Paradise Canyon]
Chris has prior obligations and cannot bring the TCR shirts to Paradise Canyon. Is there anyone in the Austin area, or passing through, able to pick up the two boxes of shirts and see them to this years reunion? Wednesday is his best day to do this. Please? --Don --Don ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
[Texascavers] [TCR & Registration]
I almost forgot to mention TCR is only taking cash and checks as the canyon has no cell service for mobile card readers! --Don --Don ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
[Texascavers] [Texas Cavers Reunion!]
Paradise Canyons gates open after noon this Thursday, October 13 to the 19th, for the 39th annual Texas Cavers Reunion! Magical Forest Creatures. Word has been out for some time now, and the time is almost here! Cavers have been caving and are ready to tell their tales! Let's get together with our caver family in an awesome setting and enjoy each other's company. Many new cavers need to be introduced to the old timers & traditions of Texas Caving! Contests, T-Shirts, Swimming, door prizes, the great outdoors and a Parade! $30 for individuals $15 for old timers $15 for kids $80 for families Come support and celebrate your caving family! The 39th annual Texas Cavers Reunion will be at Paradise Canyon park below Medina Lake on the currently raging Medina River. There will be the usual revelry! Rope climbing contests, surveying contests, mud wrestling contests, speleolympic contests, costume contest, kegs of Shiner beer, story telling, swimming, parade, hot tubbing, door prizes, kayaking, river tubing, slides, sashaying, mooching, lying, goofing off, horse play, dumbassery, giddiness, hugging, handshaking, camping, mocking, and general capering about. Come early, on Thursday for the primo campsites. There are four cabins and an RV for rent through Paradise Canyon, please contact them for price and arrangements. If you are a caver, spelunker, troglodyte, cave manager, cave guide, cave owner, cave archeologist, cave lover, cave explorer, cave diver, cave biologist, cave geologist, cave hydrologist, cave climber, cave squeezer, cave aficionado, cave critter, or caver supporter, caver financier, cave surveyor, cave mapper, naked caver, cave gear vendor, long suffering cave spouse, cave divorcee, cave widow please consider attending. If you aren't, you will be vetted, someone better vouch for you or we may use you as a bad example and let the fairies have you. If you have children or pets, please keep them leashed, clean up after them (bring your own poo bags). We expect them to be quiet and well mannered. Poorly mannered children and pets will be handed over to the cooks or Ogres for disposal. Please bring your own utensils for the Big Feed on Saturday night. Please: NO GLASS CONTAINERS in the park. None. If you are a cook, you are not included in this mandate, unless you go near the river. Also, no longer driving the vehicles to the lower level camping areas, the owner has installed lots of new plumbing for lawns and has suffered breaks from vehicular traffic. Please help us keep the park owner happy with us by being conscientious with trash, the park is open to the public during the rest of the year and bottle caps, twist ties and other minutea of debris gets left behind. With so many environmentalists present at once during our event, if everyone picked up a few things the park would SPARKLE, so would the owners smile! Create a prize winning, memorable Magical Forest Creature costume! Get on it!! don at oztotl dot com --Don --Don ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Help unloading TCR firewood
Niki, Gary, Amy, Tom(?), and me. --Don ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] River Walk invitation
I am at Deep & Punkin Caves Nature Preserve working on the Bath House. Soon to be at Paradise Canyon, north of Castroville, doing TCR business. For Cavers. --Don > On Sep 29, 2016, at 9:38 PM, David via Texascavers > wrote: > > I am frolicking tonight on the River Walk at "Cafe Ole" restaurant, Thursday, > the 29th > > 281-995-8487 ( text o.k. ) > > David Locklear > dlocklea...@gmail.com > > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Devils Sinkhole 1970 - Vertical Caving Technique
Yes. Yes it did. --Don > On Sep 27, 2016, at 5:04 PM, Michael Harris > > That milled aluminum rack looked scary! > ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] [TCR]
Will Rupley is on it. Thanks! --Don > On Sep 13, 2016, at 8:26 AM, Dessie Pierce via Texascavers > wrote: > > I think I can bring the Shiner! I just have to make sure I can borrow my > brother's truck. > > --- > Dessie Pierce, MA > Licensed Professional Counselor > Licensed Chemical Dependency Counselor > Certified Clinical Trauma Professional > 11999 Katy Freeway > Suite 509 > Houston, TX 77079 > phone: 832-735-0065 > cell: 832-341-8880 > des...@dessiep.com > dessiep.com > It is important to be aware that e-mail communication can be relatively > easily accessed by unauthorized people and therefore can compromise the > privacy and confidentiality of such communication. Please notify me (Dessie > Pierce) if you decide to avoid or limit in anyway the use of email. Please > do not use email for emergencies. Any advice given without a contract for > professional services does not constitute counseling in any manner and should > not be relied upon. Information contained within and accompanying this > message is confidential, intended only for the use of the individual or > entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended > recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or > copy of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this > message in error, please immediately notify me by telephone at 832-735-0065 > or return the email and purge all copies of this message from your system. > > >> On 2016-09-13 05:02, Don Arburn via Texascavers wrote: >> >> Ok, dishes and I'll put you down as Survey. I think David Ochle historically >> did it, but I have not heard from him. >> >> >> --Don >> >>> On Sep 12, 2016, at 10:31 PM, Marvin and Lisa via Texascavers >>> wrote: >>> >>> Don, >>> >>> I can help wash dishes or help organize the survey comp. >>> >>> Marvin >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of >>> Don Arburn via Texascavers >>> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 5:41 PM >>> To: TSA Cavers List >>> Subject: [Texascavers] [TCR] >>> >>> One Month Left!! >>> >>> TCR needs confirmations for the following volunteers: >>> >>> •Dish washers: Sheryl, Dale (2 more please!) >>> >>> •Firewood gathering, work to be done at the park soon!!! Contact me. >>> >>> •Shiner Retrievers, WHO DOESN'T WANT FREE BEER!? Are we going to do this >>> again this year? How do y'all feel about BYOB? >>> >>> •Ropes Organizers >>> >>> •Survey Squad organizers >>> >>> •SpeleOlympic organizers >>> >>> •Sleeping Bag Clothes Change Contest Crew (contest resurgence) organizers >>> >>> •Hot Tub Team, folks who can help put the tub and sauna together. >>> >>> •Mud wrestler pit builders. Galen, Cruz (a couple more helpers & a referee) >>> >>> •Minion(s) enthusiast to help me >>> >>> --Chief Cat Herder >>> ___ >>> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >>> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >>> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >>> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >>> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers >> ___ >> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] [TCR]
Ok, dishes and I'll put you down as Survey. I think David Ochle historically did it, but I have not heard from him. --Don > On Sep 12, 2016, at 10:31 PM, Marvin and Lisa via Texascavers > wrote: > > Don, > > I can help wash dishes or help organize the survey comp. > > Marvin > > -Original Message- > From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of > Don Arburn via Texascavers > Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 5:41 PM > To: TSA Cavers List > Subject: [Texascavers] [TCR] > > One Month Left!! > > TCR needs confirmations for the following volunteers: > > •Dish washers: Sheryl, Dale (2 more please!) > > •Firewood gathering, work to be done at the park soon!!! Contact me. > > •Shiner Retrievers, WHO DOESN'T WANT FREE BEER!? Are we going to do this > again this year? How do y'all feel about BYOB? > > •Ropes Organizers > > •Survey Squad organizers > > •SpeleOlympic organizers > > •Sleeping Bag Clothes Change Contest Crew (contest resurgence) organizers > > •Hot Tub Team, folks who can help put the tub and sauna together. > > •Mud wrestler pit builders. Galen, Cruz (a couple more helpers & a referee) > > •Minion(s) enthusiast to help me > > --Chief Cat Herder > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com > | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > > > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] [TCR]
Ok! Thanks! --Don > On Sep 12, 2016, at 9:40 PM, Aubri Jenson via Texascavers > wrote: > > I'd like to referee the mud wrestling!! Of course I can wash dishes or > something, too... > Aubri > >> On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 5:41 PM, Don Arburn via Texascavers >> wrote: >> One Month Left!! >> >> TCR needs confirmations for the following volunteers: >> >> •Dish washers: Sheryl, Dale (2 more please!) >> >> •Firewood gathering, work to be done at the park soon!!! Contact me. >> >> •Shiner Retrievers, WHO DOESN'T WANT FREE BEER!? Are we going to do this >> again this year? How do y'all feel about BYOB? >> >> •Ropes Organizers >> >> •Survey Squad organizers >> >> •SpeleOlympic organizers >> >> •Sleeping Bag Clothes Change Contest Crew (contest resurgence) organizers >> >> •Hot Tub Team, folks who can help put the tub and sauna together. >> >> •Mud wrestler pit builders. Galen, Cruz (a couple more helpers & a referee) >> >> •Minion(s) enthusiast to help me >> >> --Chief Cat Herder >> ___ >> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] [TCR]
I'll put you down to help wash dishes Saturday night. --Don > On Sep 12, 2016, at 7:52 PM, Missy Singleton via Texascavers > wrote: > > Hey Don, > We are planning to get there mid morning on Friday. Once we are set up we > will help with whatever needs to be done. We will have our son with us so > you may just have the help of one adult while the other is looking after the > toddler. > Missy > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Sep 12, 2016, at 5:41 PM, Don Arburn via Texascavers >> wrote: >> >> One Month Left!! >> >> TCR needs confirmations for the following volunteers: >> >> •Dish washers: Sheryl, Dale (2 more please!) >> >> •Firewood gathering, work to be done at the park soon!!! Contact me. >> >> •Shiner Retrievers, WHO DOESN'T WANT FREE BEER!? Are we going to do this >> again this year? How do y'all feel about BYOB? >> >> •Ropes Organizers >> >> •Survey Squad organizers >> >> •SpeleOlympic organizers >> >> •Sleeping Bag Clothes Change Contest Crew (contest resurgence) organizers >> >> •Hot Tub Team, folks who can help put the tub and sauna together. >> >> •Mud wrestler pit builders. Galen, Cruz (a couple more helpers & a referee) >> >> •Minion(s) enthusiast to help me >> >> --Chief Cat Herder >> ___ >> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
[Texascavers] [TCR]
One Month Left!! TCR needs confirmations for the following volunteers: •Dish washers: Sheryl, Dale (2 more please!) •Firewood gathering, work to be done at the park soon!!! Contact me. •Shiner Retrievers, WHO DOESN'T WANT FREE BEER!? Are we going to do this again this year? How do y'all feel about BYOB? •Ropes Organizers •Survey Squad organizers •SpeleOlympic organizers •Sleeping Bag Clothes Change Contest Crew (contest resurgence) organizers •Hot Tub Team, folks who can help put the tub and sauna together. •Mud wrestler pit builders. Galen, Cruz (a couple more helpers & a referee) •Minion(s) enthusiast to help me --Chief Cat Herder ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Authors of scientific articles
Hey! You two get a room! --Don > On Aug 31, 2016, at 3:15 PM, Bill Steele via Texascavers > wrote: > > You're so cute. > >> On Aug 31, 2016, at 3:13 PM, Diana Tomchick via Texascavers >> wrote: >> >> Oddly enough, this afternoon I received a form that I need to fill out in >> order to have a paper reviewed in eLife, an Open Access journal. >> >> The form is entitled, "eLife’s transparent reporting form.” >> >> It consists of detailed questions about how the data was collected, analyzed >> and any statistical analysis performed on the data. >> >> This is information that is required from the authors, not from the people >> cited in the acknowledgements. >> >> I refer interested parties to the following web site: >> >> https://elifesciences.org/elife-news/elife-method-and-methodology-data-collection >> >> I love y’all as cavers, but please, if you’re going to pass judgement on >> scientific publishing, try to think about how scientific publishing is done >> nowadays, and realize that for different fields, there are different methods >> of data collection. Not to mention the rapidly changing field of open versus >> closed access publication—this stuff is changing almost under our feet. >> >> Diana >> >> ** >> Diana R. Tomchick >> Professor >> Departments of Biophysics and Biochemistry >> University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center >> 5323 Harry Hines Blvd. >> Rm. ND10.214A >> Dallas, TX 75390-8816 >> diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu >> (214) 645-6383 (phone) >> (214) 645-6353 (fax) >> >>> On Aug 31, 2016, at 2:57 PM, texascavers@texascavers.com wrote: >>> >>> As a scientist, I generally agree with the need for multiple "authors", >>> including people who had nothing to do with actually writing an article. >>> However it does seem to have gotten a bit out of control and now people >>> are listed as authors who should more correctly be listed in the >>> Acknowledgments. >>> As cavers, we do not follow this trend. Caving articles, even about >>> whole expeditions, are usually authored by no more than three people, >>> and usually just one or two. Typically every member of the expedition >>> was important, and they should be mentioned by name in the text, but I >>> don't think they should be listed as authors. >>> >>> Geary, >>> Long lists of authors have been a hallmark of physics papers for >>> decades. I have a paper from 1989 (Physical Review Letters) with 188 >>> authors. The list took up the entire first page of the article. And that >>> was long before the CERN Large Hadron Collider came into being. As huge >>> collaborations in physics and astronomy become more common, long author >>> lists are, sadly, likely to become ever more common. >>> >>> Mark Minton >>> mmin...@caver.net >>> On Wed, August 31, 2016 1:46 pm, via Texascavers wrote: That said, it is often the case that the relative value of an article is inversely proportional to the number of authors cited. Given the current frenzy to publish and be recognized for Pd work, it would not be surprising if the number of authors exceeded the length of the article. Jerry Atkinson. > On Wed, August 31, 2016 1:27 pm, Geary Schindel via Texascavers wrote: > Diana, > > Very well said, I was thinking of replying also but you hit the nail on > the head. Most research these days are a collaboration between many > scientists and laboratories. I think the best example I've seen is some > of the Super Collider work that might have 150 authors for a paper. > > Geary Schindel > gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org > > -Original Message- > From: Texascavers On Behalf Of Diana Tomchick via Texascavers > Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 12:16 PM > To: Cave Tex > Subject: Re: [Texascavers] White-Nose Syndrome in PNW scientific article > > Let me clarify what constitutes authorship on a scientific article. > > It does not necessarily mean that a person wrote one of the paragraphs. > In fact, in the future we may have artificial intelligence to thank for > writing much of the routine text in our articles and technical manuals. > > It DOES mean that an author is a person that is responsible for one or > more of the following: > > Coming up with the original idea (i.e., the hypothesis) for the > experiment Collecting data Analyzing data Presenting data (in graphical, > written or other forms such as videos, etc.) Supervising the people that > collect, analyze and present the data Drawing important conclusions from > the data and testing new hypotheses that result from this all-important > step Writing the text of the final document > > You want and NEED all of these people to be listed as authors-as they > are the ones that are legitimately responsible for the final published > work. If there are any que
Re: [Texascavers] Ernie?
Isn't he burning on the Playa? --Don > On Aug 28, 2016, at 6:43 AM, Andy Gluesenkamp via Texascavers > wrote: > > Paging Ernie Garza. > > Sent from my iPhone > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Research finds porcupines are prominent in many south-central Texas caves :
Saw a dead badger in front of my house in Bee County once, roadkill, had no idea they were here. --Don > On Aug 26, 2016, at 1:08 AM, Logan McNatt via Texascavers > wrote: > > Very interesting study, thanks Jerry. > > Cavers spend a lot of time in the wild and encounter lots of wildlife--both > fauna and flora. For the interested, I highly recommend the book Texas > Natural History: A Century of Change, by David J. Schmidly, Texas Tech > University Press, 2002. The first half of the book is an introduction to and > reprint of the long out-of-print Biological Survey of Texas, 1889-1905, by > Vernon Bailey--an amazing quest. In the second half, Schmidly documents the > changes that have occurred to the landscapes/flora and mammalian fauna during > the 20th Century, with photos and distribution maps comparing then and now. > > In the 1889-1905 Biological Survey, porcupines were recorded only in the NW > panhandle (Tascosa County) and the Trans-Pecos Davis Mtns area. The current > range (as of ca. 2000) is all but the eastern 1/3 of the state, and deep > south Texas. > > There are even photos of a jaguar killed in 1903 near Goldthwaite (Mills > County)--that's 100 miles NW of Austin!--and another one killed near San > Benito (Cameron County) in 1946. Also in Cameron County...an ocelot killed > 1924, and a jaguarundi road kill in 1986. > > A porcupine showed up in my next-door neighbor's yard in early Sept 2012, one > block south of a busy highway (Ben White Blvd) in south central Austin. I > called a licensed wildlife trapper named Rio Tenango who easily netted it and > released it on a distant ranch that accepts such urban rescues. Small world-- > Rio recognized my house because he had been here for a UT Grotto vertical > training in my back yard years before. > > Logan McNatt > lmcn...@austin.rr.com > >> On 8/25/2016 8:15 PM, Marvin and Lisa via Texascavers wrote: >> And I can say they have been common in Government Canyon caves for years. >> However, just in the last couple of years have I seen increased amounts of >> road-killed porcupines around Spring Branch. >> >> Marvin Miller >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of >> Jerryatkin via Texascavers >> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 8:01 PM >> To: texascavers@texascavers.com >> Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com >> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Research finds porcupines are prominent in many >> south-central Texas caves : >> >> They're quite common (hence the Porcupine Grotto) in the western Edwards >> Plateau caves. >> >> Jerry Atkinson. >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>>> On Aug 25, 2016, at 6:54 PM, Don Arburn via Texascavers >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> A couple live in Deep. >>>> >>>> >>>> --Don >>>> >>>> On Aug 25, 2016, at 7:51 PM, Jerryatkin via Texascavers >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> http://www.theeagle.com/landandlivestockpost/agrilifetoday/research-f >>>> inds-porcupines-are-prominent-in-many-south-central-texas/article_7cf >>>> be577-b3dd-581d-9d44-e2b136b331aa.html >>>> >>>> Jerry Atkinson. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPad >>>> ___ >>>> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >>>> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >>>> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers >>> ___ >>> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >>> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >>> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers >> ___ >> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers >> >> >> ___ >> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Research finds porcupines are prominent in many south-central Texas caves :
A couple live in Deep. --Don > On Aug 25, 2016, at 7:51 PM, Jerryatkin via Texascavers > wrote: > > http://www.theeagle.com/landandlivestockpost/agrilifetoday/research-finds-porcupines-are-prominent-in-many-south-central-texas/article_7cfbe577-b3dd-581d-9d44-e2b136b331aa.html > > Jerry Atkinson. > > Sent from my iPad > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Registration nation for tcr
Both you and Liz are on! Kris Peña is your contact kapkanga...@gmail.com Thanks! --Don > On Aug 23, 2016, at 6:35 PM, jules rincon via Texascavers > wrote: > > Hi Don! I'd love to volunteer for registration. I'll be driving in on > Friday night with Lizette. > > Thanks! I'm looking forward to my first tcr this year! > > J > > Please excuse the spelling mistakes. Big thumbs typing on tiny keyboard. > > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] [Texas Cavers Reunion Help]
At the rate folks are volunteering, we may have to institute that old British tradition of naval Press Gangs, Stef, we can walk through the campgrounds and any loafers we can simply whack on the head, cuff and put into service. --TCR > On Aug 23, 2016, at 5:08 PM, Stefan Creaser via Texascavers > wrote: > > I am hoping the Aggies will do their usual and help with serving the Saturday > dinner?! > > However, can they let me know a bit (more) in advance if they are intending > to do this? We need to "train" you on the dishes and serving them a few hours > before the meal, thanks!! > > Stefan Creaser ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] [Texas Cavers Reunion Help]
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[Texascavers] [Texas Cavers Reunion Help]
51 Days Left!! Bring this up at your grotto meetings!! TCR needs confirmations for the following volunteers: •Dish washers: Sheryl, Dale (2 more!) •Firewood gathering, work to be done at the park soon!!! Contact me. •Door Prize Vixens to give out prizes! •TP Patrol, an easy job of keeping tabs on the bathrooms and toilet paper. •Registration Nation: Kris, Lizette, Jake (need a couple more) •Shiner Retrievers, WHO DOESN'T WANT FREE BEER!? •Ropes Popes, rope climbing organizers and belayers •Survey Squad, organizers •SpeleOlympic Wranglers, organizers •Sleeping Bag Clothes Change Contest Crew (contest resurgence) organizers •Recyclers are Stefan & Dale! (These guys are badass!) •Hot Tub Team, folks who can help put the tub and sauna together. •Mud wrestler pit builders Galen (a couple more helpers & a referee) •Someone to make some awards! •Minion(s) enthusiast to help me PLEASE? Bring this up at your grotto meetings!! These are short term fairly easy things, they aren't going to take up much time and EVERYONE will be grateful. ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] [Call for TCR Volunteers]
John, The owner of the park would like us to clear some brush in order to keep costs down, a work day, at that time we can gather the wood from his place. --Don > On Aug 11, 2016, at 12:35 PM, John Schneider via Texascavers > wrote: > > I can probably bring another load of firewood like last year . > > John Schneider ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] [Call for TCR Volunteers]
Feel like being a Dish Washer Honcho? Wrangle the volunteers? --Don > On Aug 10, 2016, at 12:48 PM, Sheryl Rieck via Texascavers > wrote: > > I can take on the dish washing again for the Saturday night feed. > > Sheryl Rieck > sheryl.ri...@gmail.com > > "You can't always get what you want but if you try sometime, you just might > find you get what you need" Rolling Stones > >> On Aug 10, 2016, at 12:37 PM, Don Arburn via Texascavers >> wrote: >> >> Volunteers are what makes TCR happen. And this is a call for them. TCR needs >> confirmations for the following: >> •Dish washers >> •Firewood gatherers (to be done at PC) >> •Door Prize Vixens >> •TP Patrol >> •Registration Nation >> •Shiner Retrievers >> •Recyclers >> •Ropes Popes (climbing) >> •Survey Squad >> •SpeleOlympic Wranglers >> •Sleeping Bag Clothes Change Contest Crew (contest resurgence) >> •Minion(s) >> >> >> --TCR >> ___ >> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] [Call for TCR Volunteers]
Done! Thanks! --Don > On Aug 10, 2016, at 12:48 PM, Sheryl Rieck via Texascavers > wrote: > > I can take on the dish washing again for the Saturday night feed. > > Sheryl Rieck > sheryl.ri...@gmail.com > > "You can't always get what you want but if you try sometime, you just might > find you get what you need" Rolling Stones > >> On Aug 10, 2016, at 12:37 PM, Don Arburn via Texascavers >> wrote: >> >> Volunteers are what makes TCR happen. And this is a call for them. TCR needs >> confirmations for the following: >> •Dish washers >> •Firewood gatherers (to be done at PC) >> •Door Prize Vixens >> •TP Patrol >> •Registration Nation >> •Shiner Retrievers >> •Recyclers >> •Ropes Popes (climbing) >> •Survey Squad >> •SpeleOlympic Wranglers >> •Sleeping Bag Clothes Change Contest Crew (contest resurgence) >> •Minion(s) >> >> >> --TCR >> ___ >> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
[Texascavers] [Call for TCR Volunteers]
Volunteers are what makes TCR happen. And this is a call for them. TCR needs confirmations for the following: •Dish washers •Firewood gatherers (to be done at PC) •Door Prize Vixens •TP Patrol •Registration Nation •Shiner Retrievers •Recyclers •Ropes Popes (climbing) •Survey Squad •SpeleOlympic Wranglers •Sleeping Bag Clothes Change Contest Crew (contest resurgence) •Minion(s) --TCR ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] : cool NSS convention
It's slightly funny because it was included in the email Carol sent that you replied too. Y'all have fun, wish I was there! --Don > On Jul 13, 2016, at 12:00 PM, Amy Morton via Texascavers > wrote: > > Thanks Don :) we didn't download the flyer. We read the section about travel > and the map of Ely. Etc. Etc. > > Amy > > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone > > > ---- Original message > From: Don Arburn via Texascavers > Date: 07/13/2016 10:58 AM (GMT-07:00) > To: texascavers@texascavers.com > Subject: Re: [Texascavers] : cool NSS convention > > Right there in the flyer: > Camping & social events: > White Pine County Golf Course 151 Golf Course Rd, Ely, NV 89301 > @39.263,-114.859 > > > > --Don > > On Jul 13, 2016, at 11:53 AM, Amy Morton via Texascavers > wrote: > >> Carol, >> >> We also can't find the name/location of the camp ground. Do you have a link >> to that information specifically? Tom Rogers and I (Amy Morton) looked on >> the site but to no avail. Thanks for helping! >> >> Amy >> >> >> >> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone >> >> >> Original message >> From: C Tiderman via Texascavers >> Date: 07/12/2016 6:29 PM (GMT-07:00) >> To: texascavers@texascavers.com >> Subject: [Texascavers] : cool NSS convention >> >> Mark, >> >> You can get a lot of what you are looking for at the web site. >> Unfortunately, there is not a who's coming list. >> >> Registration - NSS 75th Anniversary Convention >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Registration - NSS 75th Anniversary Convention >> Registration page for the 2016 convention! >> View on nss2016.caves... >> Preview by Yahoo >> >> >> >> Carol >> >> >> From: mark gee via Texascavers >> To: "texascavers@texascavers.com" >> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 8:20 PM >> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] cool NSS convention >> >> Have not heard where or how to get to the camp ground. When does >> registration start and where is the school or what ever it might be. Am I >> missing something. Have not seen a list of those confirmed at the >> convention. Want to make sure they got my check 5 months ago. Can someone >> help. markageetxca...@yahoo.com >> >> >> On Sunday, July 10, 2016 5:59 PM, Mixon Bill via Texascavers >> wrote: >> >> >> A reminder to Texas cavers attending the NSS convention in Ely, Nevada, who >> haven't read all the poop about the convention: The average nightly low >> temperature this time of year is 48°. Be prepared. >> -- Mixon >> >> Always forgive your enemies after they are hanged. >> >> You may "reply" to the address this message >> (unless it's a TexasCavers list post) >> came from, but for long-term use, save: >> Personal: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu >> AMCS: a...@mexicancaves.org or sa...@mexicancaves.org >> >> ___ >> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers >> >> >> >> ___ >> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers >> ___ >> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] : cool NSS convention
Right there in the flyer: Camping & social events: White Pine County Golf Course 151 Golf Course Rd, Ely, NV 89301 @39.263,-114.859 --Don > On Jul 13, 2016, at 11:53 AM, Amy Morton via Texascavers > wrote: > > Carol, > > We also can't find the name/location of the camp ground. Do you have a link > to that information specifically? Tom Rogers and I (Amy Morton) looked on > the site but to no avail. Thanks for helping! > > Amy > > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone > > > Original message > From: C Tiderman via Texascavers > Date: 07/12/2016 6:29 PM (GMT-07:00) > To: texascavers@texascavers.com > Subject: [Texascavers] : cool NSS convention > > Mark, > > You can get a lot of what you are looking for at the web site. Unfortunately, > there is not a who's coming list. > > Registration - NSS 75th Anniversary Convention > > > > > > > > > Registration - NSS 75th Anniversary Convention > Registration page for the 2016 convention! > View on nss2016.caves... > Preview by Yahoo > > > > Carol > > > From: mark gee via Texascavers > To: "texascavers@texascavers.com" > Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 8:20 PM > Subject: Re: [Texascavers] cool NSS convention > > Have not heard where or how to get to the camp ground. When does registration > start and where is the school or what ever it might be. Am I missing > something. Have not seen a list of those confirmed at the convention. Want to > make sure they got my check 5 months ago. Can someone help. > markageetxca...@yahoo.com > > > On Sunday, July 10, 2016 5:59 PM, Mixon Bill via Texascavers > wrote: > > > A reminder to Texas cavers attending the NSS convention in Ely, Nevada, who > haven't read all the poop about the convention: The average nightly low > temperature this time of year is 48°. Be prepared. > -- Mixon > > Always forgive your enemies after they are hanged. > > You may "reply" to the address this message > (unless it's a TexasCavers list post) > came from, but for long-term use, save: > Personal: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu > AMCS: a...@mexicancaves.org or sa...@mexicancaves.org > > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > > > > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > > > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Can Locklear please restrain himself !!
Exactly! --Don > On Jul 8, 2016, at 3:38 PM, Stefan Creaser via Texascavers > wrote: > > You know it’s Friday when… > > The number of posts complaining about the number of posts David makes… > exceeds the number of posts David makes. > > Cheers, > Stefan Creaser > Staff Design Engineer; Physical Design Group; ARM > 5707 Southwest Parkway, Bldg 1, Suite 100, Austin, TX 78735, USA. > Direct: +1-512-314-1012, Internal: 11012. > Email: stefan.crea...@arm.com. Skype: stefan_creaser > > From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of > Charles Goldsmith via Texascavers > Sent: Friday, July 08, 2016 3:35 PM > To: Cavetex > Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Can Locklear please restrain himself !! > > Oh come on Bill, you know you wanna :) > > On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 3:32 PM, Bill Bentley - ca...@caver.net via > Texascavers wrote: > Yes take it over... LOL... been there done that... Thank you but no... I just > delete. > Bill Bentley > ca...@caver.net > > > > Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone > > > Original message > From: Charles Goldsmith via Texascavers > Date: 7/8/16 3:29 PM (GMT-06:00) > To: Cavetex > Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Can Locklear please restrain himself !! > > We have 4 rules: http://texascavers.com/rules.html > > David hasn't broken any rules and no, he's older than me Bob. > > I maintain the rules as list owner, that's it. I've always stated that this > list is self moderated. If you don't like a post that someone has sent out, > send them a private message if possible. > > If you don't like the list and how it's run, anyone is free to step up and > take over, including hosting and paying. Or, it's just easier to delete a > message and go about enjoying your day. Personally, that's what I do. > > Charles > list owner > wo...@justfamily.org > > > On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 3:17 PM, Julia Germany via Texascavers > wrote: > Hi Frank! > > We don't want to lose a valuable, iconic Texas caver from this list. Or any > other cavers. Some folks forget these posts are read by cavers who are not > in/from Texas. And, who don't know David. > > I have no doubt someone will point out that David's posts say "off-topic," > "delete now if you don't want to read it." > > However, I concur that this listserv has a clear intention of being used for > the purpose of cave-related posts. > > I know David L posts comments on the various Texas cave-related Face Book > pages. > > Perhaps the moderator of this listserv could politely suggest that David post > any non-cave related information on these other sites. And, perhaps, even > politely let David know that he might be unsubscribed if he continues to > improperly use this listserv. > > julia > > > > - from julia's cell > > Julia G Germany > c: 281.979.9208 > e: germa...@aol.com > > > On Jul 8, 2016, at 13:30, Frank Binney via Texascavers > > wrote: > > > > Many, if not most of us, subscribe to CaveTex to keep up with caving and > > caver-related news. A number of cavers I know have, unfortunately, > > unsubscribed from the list because of the volume of off-topic spam from > > David Locklear. > > I’m about to join them, as David’s recent return to the list has flooded my > > inbox with list-inappropriate posts. > > Can those of you who like David please counsel him on list etiquette and > > suggest more appropriate venues for his off-topic posts? > > Thanks, > > Frank Binney > > NSS 10816 Fellow > > i...@frankbinney.com > > > > ___ > > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > > > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > > > IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are > confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended > recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the > contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the > information in any medium. Thank you. > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers m
Re: [Texascavers] a biology post
I don't frequent those places, for good reason, I wouldn't know. --Don > On Jun 29, 2016, at 12:18 PM, David via Texascavers > > Walmart or > McDonalds or > The Golden Corral Buffet ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Powell's Cave Gate Project update :
Because Powells is on private property? --Don > On Jun 23, 2016, at 6:39 PM, Diana Tomchick via Texascavers > wrote: > > Why do we have these organizations in Texas if they can’t be used to leverage > donations to protect these important resources? > > Diana ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] [TCR '16]
Yes! --Don > On Jun 3, 2016, at 10:56 PM, David via Texascavers > wrote: > > Are old timers invited ?? > > Are arm-chair cavers welcomed ?? What about retired cavers and qausi-cavers > ? > > And cave gaterers ? > > And sotano-base jumpers ? > > and cave diggers ? > > And Seacave kayakers ?And Lava Tube Lovers ? > > And Alpine Karst Specialist ? > > Artificial Cave Constructors ? > > Speleo-chemist ?? > > Hodags ? > > David Locklear > dlocklea...@gmail.com > > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
[Texascavers] [TCR '16]
132 days from the time of this post will be the 39th annual Texas Cavers Reunion at Paradise Canyon park below Medina Lake on the currently raging Medina River. There will be the usual revelry! Rope climbing contests, surveying contests, mud wrestling contests, speleolympic contests, costume contest, food eating conte… err, not so much a contest…, dishwashing contes…, crap… YES - a DISHWASHING contest, kegs of beer, story telling, swimming, parade, hot tubbing, door prizes, kayaking, river tubing, slides, sashaying, mooching, lying, goofing off, horse play, dumbassery, giddiness, hugging, handshaking, camping, mocking, and general capering about. Come early, on Thursday for the primo campsites. There are four cabins and an RV for rent through Paradise Canyon, please contact them for price and arrangements. Registration costs to be announced later. If you are a caver, spelunker, troglodyte, cave manager, cave guide, cave owner, cave archeologist, cave lover, cave explorer, cave diver, cave biologist, cave geologist, cave hydrologist, cave climber, cave squeezer, cave aficionado, cave critter, or caver supporter, caver financier, cave surveyor, cave mapper, naked caver, cave gear vendor, long suffering cave spouse, cave divorcee, cave widow please consider attending. If you aren't, you will be vetted, someone better vouch for you or we may use you as a bad example and let the fairies have you. If you have children or pets, please keep them leashed, clean up after them (bring your own poo bags). We expect them to be quiet and well mannered. Poorly mannered children and pets will be handed over to the cooks or Ogres for disposal. NO GLASS CONTAINERS in the park. None. If you are a cook, you are not included in this mandate, unless you go near the river. Please bring your own utensils for the Big Feed on Saturday night. Please help us keep the park owner happy with us by being conscientious with trash, the park is open to the public during the rest of the year and bottle caps, twist ties and other minutea of debris gets left behind. With so many environmentalists present at once during our event, if everyone picked up a few things the park would SPARKLE, so would the owners smile! Mine too! Sometime after the Fourth of July the park owner has requested some work from us to help keep costs down, he has some brush clearing he'd appreciate. Plus it's an excellent opportunity to gather firewood for the hot tub and fires. More to come later on this. If you think you may like to help, shoot me an email at don at oztotl dot com. You have 132 days to create a prize winning, memorable Magical Forest Creature costume! Get on it!! --Don ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
[Texascavers] [D&P Showers]
Time to start thinking about finishing the showers. The TCMA Preserves chair has made promises so a deadline of the end of August has been set. That means bases for the tanks, walls and roof and stalls, electricity and plumbing. If Gill, Tom, Crash & Gary could discuss potential dates. Once we have a date, I can get materials out there. Available Saturday dates: June 11 June 18 July 2 July 9 July 30 Aug 6 Aug 20 Aug 27 --Don Deep & Punkin Caves Nature Preserve Manager --Don ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
[Texascavers] [Texas Cavers Reunion 2016]
It's official, Texas Cavers Reunion has its venue. The water is once again flowing over the lower retention dam into Paradise Canyon park, and hopefully will continue to do so through October 13 to October 16, 2016. The corn is tall there outside of Castroville on the flowing Medina River, actually the water is currently OVER the retaining walls in Paradise Canyon park. There is now a playground and a beautiful new restroom and shower facility. There is a theme for our doo-dah parade too. Several good ideas were put forth and in the end I required a secret vote from my consultants which ended in a three way tie requiring me to bring in my heavy hitter tie breaker: Magical Forest Creatures! The rains have made the woods and countryside very very happy and green and the magic is strong now. The gnomes, fairies, trolls and Hodags are proliferating and putting on their summer coats of algae and mosses and lichens. The unicorns, Pegasus and griffons were out grazing along the green riverfront under the sycamores and cypress today. I think I even saw a wampus cat frolicking with a zoat. Certainly Bigfoot lurks, and I swear I smelled a skunk-ape. More information to come, stay tuned --Don ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Zika
I got your "mic drop", how about something CAVING. Boom. --Don > Also, for Texas cavers it sounds like signing emails is a bigger issue then > zika. Just saying. > -gp ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Zika
Not on every mail reader. Not on my iPhone, until I attempt reply. --Don > On May 24, 2016, at 9:03 PM, Scott Boyd via Texascavers > wrote: > > A thread of 17 messages so far and I see every sender's name, such as "Crash > Kennedy via Texascavers" at the top of the email. (Yes, my signature follows.) > > Scott D. Boyd > GPS Technician - TX, LA, AR > Professional Transportation, Inc. > >> On May 24, 2016 8:16 PM, "Crash Kennedy via Texascavers" >> wrote: >> But CaveTex strips out the senders name, so it just shows up as being from >> texascavers.com. Therefore, if you (and everyone else) fails to put your >> name at the end of your posting, none of us know the author. It's a common >> courtesy. >> >> Jim Kennedy >> >> >>> My full name is in my email. I haven't used a .sig since the '90s. >> >> ___ >> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Zika
The remailer for texascavers doesn't show it unless replied to. --Don > My full name is in my email. I haven't used a .sig since the '90s. ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Zika
What about my suit? --Don > On May 24, 2016, at 4:43 PM, Stefan Creaser via Texascavers > wrote: > > (Dons fireproof suit) ;-) ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Zika
Amen brother. It's not like this is a new issue or that it's never been mentioned before... --Don Arburn > On May 24, 2016, at 4:04 PM, Jim Kennedy via Texascavers > wrote: > > Damn, I wish people would remember to sign their emails. I would like to know > who posted all this good information. > > Jim Kennedy ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] TSA Spring Convention news
You mean whatever it's been called for almost forty years now? Drones that use GPS for stability have a tough time underground. And when they cost as much as they do folks aren't very willing to risk their toy in a huge hole. --Don > On Apr 4, 2016, at 10:30 AM, Charles Loving via Texascavers > wrote: > > At the OTR or what ever it is these days someone flew an annoying drone > around the place. I thought about batting it out of the air but maybe it > could be flown into Devil's Sink Hole? Might be nifty to see. And I wonder if > instead of cave diving people could use submarine drones. Hah. > >> On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 11:01 PM, Fritz Holt via Texascavers >> wrote: >> It would be interesting to have an update on the Goodenough Spring cave >> diving project if new dives have been made since Chuck Noe's presentation >> two years ago. >> Fritz Holt >> fritz...@gmail.com >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Apr 2, 2016, at 10:55 AM, Crash Kennedy via Texascavers >>> wrote: >>> >>> The Auction for spots on the Devils Sinkhole trip is really heating up. >>> Bid now for a change on one of only 15 spaces! >>> http://www.cavetexas.org/events/TSASC/tsasc2016/devils_sinkhole_auction.php >>> >>> We still have a couple of slots left in our presentation schedule. If you >>> have a talk on the Edwards Plateau that you would like to present, please >>> contact me offlist. >>> >>> We also have spaces available for vendors and exhibitors. So far we have >>> the TSS, TSA, TCMA, AMCS, TPWD, Devils Sinkhole Society, Caverns of Sonora, >>> and 2016 NSS Convention signed up. If anyone else would like to set up, >>> please let me know. >>> >>> And we are still looking for a volunteer to stop by Shiner and pick up the >>> two donated kegs and assorted Shiner swag for the auction. Anyone? It's >>> free beer, people! >>> >>> Don't forget to register online before the early registration closes. You >>> will save big bucks! >>> >>> -- Jim >>> ___ >>> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >>> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >>> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers >> >> ___ >> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > > > > -- > Charlie Loving > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] HOT Deals: Honey Creek Cave Salamander Tshirt for Sale!
The reply address sez Ellie. --Don > On Apr 2, 2016, at 9:28 AM, Sheryl Rieck via Texascavers > wrote: > > Who are you? I hate to send money to people I don't know. 😉 > > Sheryl Rieck > sheryl.ri...@gmail.com > > "You can't always get what you want but if you try sometime, you just might > find you get what you need" Rolling Stones > >> On Apr 2, 2016, at 9:17 AM, Ellie Falgout via Texascavers >> wrote: >> >> I am willing to place another order of Honey Creek Cave T shirts if anyone >> is interested. I will accept payment through the end of the month and place >> the order on May 1, 2016. >> >> Pricing: >> $21.23 (plus tax) per shirt if we order 12 shirts >> $13.08 (plus tax) per shirt if we order 24 shirts >> Personalization is easy! $5.00 per Name and $3.00 per Number >> Please let me know if you would like a shirt, size and quantity. I will keep >> your info and follow up with you on final price and payment details on May >> 1, 2016. >> >> I will need payment through paypal before I make the order on May 1, 2016. >> If you want me to ship your shirt to you, I will also need $ for shipping. I >> will give you a total quote before I place the order and you can accept and >> pay me or decline. >> >> T shirt type: Gildan Heavy Cotton Basic T-Shirt | Color - Purple >> Print Type: Screenprinting >> Photo of shirt at https://goo.gl/photos/Z46r9oM6BPSCXvTL7 >> ___ >> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
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Friday March 25 through Sunday 27 just opened up at D&P. Contact me if interested. --Don ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Free Shiner Beer
No no, it's ALL Bill and you, Frank, I just retrieve it. --Don > On Mar 10, 2016, at 3:12 PM, Frank Binney via Texascavers > wrote: > > Every wonder why the Spoetzl Brewery donates free Shiner Beer to TCR and > other Texas caver events? > The short answer is that Bill Steele and Don Auburn ask them for it. The long > answer is that in the early 1970s, Bill Russell funded my UT student film > about the history of Shiner Beer. > Shown to Texas legislators, the low-budget documentary built support for > special legislation that made it possible for Spoetzl Brewery and later craft > brewers to successfully compete with the mass market brands. The Shiner folks > have been grateful ever since. > For those cavers interested in viewing “Last of the Little Breweries”, it is > now available as a private upload on Vimeo via the following link and > password: > > https://vimeo.com/145422561 > > Password (all lower case): shinerbeer > > I recommend watching with a cold Shiner in hand. > Prost! > > Frank Binney > Frank Binney & Associates > Interpretive Planning and Media Development > P.O. Box 258 > Woodacre, CA 94973 > 415.488.1200 Voice > 415.488.1500 Fax > 415.999.0556 Mobile > fr...@frankbinney.com > > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] It is done- a Honey Creek update.
Awesome work by awesome people! --Don > On Mar 8, 2016, at 11:21 AM, A. Wertheim via Texascavers > wrote: > > > > Original message > From: "A. Wertheim" > Date: 03/07/2016 10:40 PM (GMT-06:00) > To: Victoria Sommers > Subject: It is done- a Honey Creek update. > > Well friends, the Honey Creek road repair project is finished. The road to > the shaft entrance has never been better and will probably never be as good > again. Team “Go Big Or Go Home” brought their best game in a road-working > tour-de-force and not only repaired Joyce’s damaged road but made it useable > for many years to come. All the stops were pulled out to make this project a > success. > > > > > > Here’s the rundown: > > > > Volunteers: > > Tim Ramon-Project Leader > > 8!, count-em, 8! of Tim’s employees volunteered to help on a Saturday. > > Kim Freund-Food and > drinks for a lot of hungry, dusty men > > Kurt Menking-Equipment > operator, planning, organization, landowner relations > > Arron Wertheim- That’s me. I got to > run some equipment and swing a chainsaw. > > Victoria Sommers-Photo documentation, > lunch > > Robert Bissett- Equipment > operator, fundraising, organization > > Gregg “Breaks Thumbs” Williams Fundraising > > > > Equipment: > > (Courtesy of Ramon & Sons Demolition, Inc.) > > Case Backhoe > > Case Compact Track Loader > > Takeuchi Compact Track Loader > > 68000lb Kenilworth roll-off truck with a 20 YARD dump box > > 500 gallon Water Buffalo > > Trucks, Trailers > > Replacement drain pipes > > Replacement gate posts donated for future installation > > > > (Courtesy of BCI & Bracken Bat Cave) > > 8000lb Tandem Dump Trailer > > > > Funding: > > Bexar Grotto > > TCMA > > TSA > > Mr. Jerry Atkinson > > Mr. Joe Ranzou > > Mr. Greg Passmore > > Greater Houston Grotto > > TCR > > > > Project Timeline: > > Saturday and Sunday, March 5 & 6 2016 with good weather. > > > > Project Plan and Action: > > > > The original plan was to rent a couple skidsteers and borrow the dump trailer > from Bracken to patch the road. When Tim volunteered to help out and review > the project, it quickly became apparent that almost a mile of damaged road > would take a lot more time and effort than a couple Bobcats would be able to > handle. The heavy fall rains had made the road damage more pronounced. > Beers would be spilled trying to drive it. Unacceptable. Several different > repair options were discussed and a final few were selected based on the > value of this work and on reasonable fundraising expectations. It’s a ranch > road, not paved access; and while it was damaged during a rainy caving trip, > it also had not been properly maintained since it was originally built. > Ultimately a backhoe, skidsteer, and bumper-pull dump trailer were decided on > with expected costs of up to $1400/1500. > > > > When Kurt and I showed up Saturday morning there was A LOT more equipment > than expected, men in orange vests, traffic cones, a low-boy trailer, and > tons of things going on. Tim had taken a second look at the project scope > and confirmed his initial thoughts that to get the work done in one weekend > we needed to go big or go home. He asked one of his crew to help out on a > Saturday and that quickly grew to 8 hard-working men in steel-toe workboots, > hardhats, and safety vests doing what they do best. > > > > Tim’s guys worked till 5:00 on Saturday and moved enough material to re-pack > the whole road. A 20-yard dump truck can load a ridiculous amount of > material. The box is 23ftx8ftx4.5ft. Caliche weighs 2430.57 lbs/cubic yard. > That is 48611 pounds of material per load (as an engineer I just had to > know.) A Bobcat has a ½ yard bucket. The dump trailer can load 4 yards. > Anyways, watching the driver gently back that loaded roll-on behemoth between > oak trees without so much as a nick to the bark or a snapped twig was > amazing. Joyce had been adamant about protecting her oak trees. Well, > without the 20-yard dump truck and experienced equipment operators this would > probably have been a 2 or 3 weekend project with additional rental and > transport costs. > > > > Kurt and Rob ran the Bracken dump trailer loaded to the max until its > hydraulics whined in tired complaint. When the dumper decided to take a dump > from being overloaded, we grabbed shovels and unloaded it by hand. Short > loads only after that! When it had to be lifted by the track loader to dump > we knew it was finished. > > > > Tim ran his track loader at redline all day long to keep up with the dump >
[Texascavers] D&P Shower Slab Pour Work Weekend II
Gill Ediger and Lee Jay Graves and I (and Jenni) are out at D&P presently preparing for next weekends work weekend/concrete pour ((--Take notice!-- A year-old Facebook post was somehow resurrected and misleadingly gives the date for the work weekend as the 27-28 - which was the date LAST YEAR we had the trench digging work weekend)). I need everyone involved to please respond and confirm you are indeed helping, and if you (texascavers e-list) are interested in helping please contact me at d...@oztotl.com (I may have been told you wanted to help but got sloppy and neglected to put you down). We need a headcount! I've heard from a handful tonight already, THANKS!! Several have backed out as was expected. We have cooks already, what we need are strong backs. "Strong like bull smart like tractor" types. We had an awesome bunch do good prep work last weekend and we are ready to pour concrete. Next weekend we will be running cement mixers and wheel barrows constantly until we've completed it. I have 42 bags of concrete presently and we have two mixers and two wheel barrows and I expect I'll be retrieving more concrete tomorrow from Del Rio. Bring 5 gallons of water or more (for your own personal use) and clothes that can get filthed. We plan to take shifts at the task. --Don Arburn Preserve Manager Deep & Punkin Caves Nature Preserve Texas Cave Management Association___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
[Texascavers] [Free Weekend at D&P This Weekend]
I'm rescinding cabin fees -this weekend only- in exchange for some chainsawing, I'll even feed you Saturday, breakfast lunch & dinner. I need a chainsawer and a cut-branch puller. I'll even pay for chainsaw fuel & oil. --Don ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] new member discount at NSS
Do they validate parking? --Don > On Feb 29, 2016, at 1:39 PM, Mixon Bill > > For some reason the convention publicity does not mention the licensed > brothel as a local attraction in Ely :-). -- Mixon ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Honey Creek Cave Road Repair Project
Texas Cavers Reunion will commit a hundred. It'll cost Texas Cavers a bit extra at TCR, just a tad. --Don > On Feb 24, 2016, at 7:29 PM, Robert B via Texascavers > wrote: > > To Texas Cavers > > The following is a request for financial donations for a project to repair > the well shaft road at Honey Creek Cave. This is not a request for volunteers. > > The road to the Honey Creek well shaft is in need of repairs after many years > of use, neglect and damage from last years rain during a major caver event. > > As Texas Cavers directly benefit from access to the cave, and any efforts at > maintaining good landowner relations may enhance our continued access, we > feel repairing the road is in our best interest. > > As such, on the weekend of March 5&6 repairs will begin. Equipment and labor > is being donated to this effort but there will be significant out of pocket > expenses. Two (2) bobcat type skidsteers, a backhoe and a large capacity dump > trailer are being donated. Equipment operators are volunteering their time. > However, this group feels their out of pocket costs such as diesel and > equipment hauling costs should be compensated by Texas Cavers. The necessary > heavy duty trucks and trailers to haul the skidsteers and backhoe are not > being donated. > Initial estimates of out of pocket costs = $1500. > > Mr. Arron Wertheim has agreed to be the Project Manager. He has contacted the > landowner to work out road repair details and permission. He has also agreed > to incur the up front costs himself, with the understanding that Texas Cavers > will make reasonable 'not to exceed' commitments (donations) from which he > will be compensated. > > We are requesting funds from TSA, TCMA, all Texas Grottoes and individual > Texas Cavers. > Funding shall be made in the form of a 'not to exceed' financial commitment. > Upon project completion those donating shall be informed of their exact > amount to be paid based upon actual expenses. Actual funds will be paid > directly to Arron Wertheim after project completion. > > Should you feel this is a worthy cause please email me directly (off > Texascavers Listserve) with your committed donation. Robert Bisset > (chair...@cavetexas.org). > > Note: The Bexar Grotto has agreed to fund $500 with another $500 should > fundraising efforts fall short. > > Thanks > Robert Bisset - TSA Chairman > chair...@cavetexas.org > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
[Texascavers] D&P Trip Leader Needed in March
Texas A&M Corpus Christi Rec group is scheduled for March 27 and their usual trip leader will be out of the country. Can I get a volunteer, please? DON ARBURN donarb...@me.com Preserve Manager Deep & Punkin Caves Nature Preserve Texas Cave Management Association ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
[Texascavers] [TCR][Lost & Found]
Be sure to see my Facebook page for pictures of lost and found items. --Don ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] [TCR] [Hot Tub Firewood]
Jan, you have to unsubscribe. We can't do it for you. --Don > On Oct 9, 2015, at 2:06 PM, Jan Campbell, STS via Texascavers > wrote: > > PLEASE UNSUBSCRIBE ME. > >> On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 1:13 PM, Stefan Creaser via Texascavers >> wrote: >> Anyone in Austin not on cooks duty? >> >> John will be driving thru Austin and can surely pick you up from somewhere >> convenient... >> >> -Stefan >> (on cooks duty, unfortunately). >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of >> Don Arburn via Texascavers >> Sent: Friday, October 09, 2015 12:58 PM >> To: TSA Cavers List >> Subject: [Texascavers] [TCR] [Hot Tub Firewood] >> >> If you are attending TCR next weekend please bear in mind that good folks >> are volunteering for many things so you may enjoy the camaraderie. For >> instance, John Schneider is providing a trailer of firewood for the hot tub >> and sauna. However John is just one guy, who's doctor has directed him to do >> no heavy lifting. He has a loaded trailer, he has asked for help to unload >> at Paradise Canyon this Sunday and no one has stepped up to help. If I end >> up cancelling my plans with my brother Sunday, I will, and I'll go help >> John, then I'll rightfully claim that amount of time in the hot tub for >> myself whenever I want. Perhaps Saturday night after the festivities I'll go >> claim my hour or two for myself and everyone can stand around and wait for >> me to get my hot tub fix... >> >> >> --Don >> >> >> -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are >> confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended >> recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the >> contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the >> information in any medium. Thank you. >> >> ARM Limited, Registered office 110 Fulbourn Road, Cambridge CB1 9NJ, >> Registered in England & Wales, Company No: 2557590 >> ARM Holdings plc, Registered office 110 Fulbourn Road, Cambridge CB1 9NJ, >> Registered in England & Wales, Company No: 2548782 >> ___ >> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > > > > -- > Pr. Jan Campbell Unger, S.T.S. > North American Lutheran Church > Texas Master Naturalist > 501 Cross Mtn Dr. > Fredericksburg, TX 78624 > > > > > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
[Texascavers] [TCR] [Hot Tub Firewood]
If you are attending TCR next weekend please bear in mind that good folks are volunteering for many things so you may enjoy the camaraderie. For instance, John Schneider is providing a trailer of firewood for the hot tub and sauna. However John is just one guy, who's doctor has directed him to do no heavy lifting. He has a loaded trailer, he has asked for help to unload at Paradise Canyon this Sunday and no one has stepped up to help. If I end up cancelling my plans with my brother Sunday, I will, and I'll go help John, then I'll rightfully claim that amount of time in the hot tub for myself whenever I want. Perhaps Saturday night after the festivities I'll go claim my hour or two for myself and everyone can stand around and wait for me to get my hot tub fix... --Don ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
[Texascavers] [TCR][Registration & Vendors]
Be sure to bring trade goods, cash talks. Paradise Canyon is sheltered from cellular service by the canyon walls so don't expect credit card service at registration & vendors etc. Bring T-Shirts & trade goods for the Caver T's Tradin' Post. There will be a carousel projector available at the slide show area too. Bring your own grog cups and vittles kit. There will be books for sale, caving organization meetings, mud wrestling and vendors needing cash. --Ringmaster ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
[Texascavers] [TCR][1 Month Away (o.k., 33 Days)]
Texas Cavers Reunion is a smidge over a month away, and I am EXCITED! Hopefully El Niño and Oztol will grant us cool weather without a deluge of rainfall, but we all are used to such things and will make the best of it. Events are being organized as I type this, SpeleOlympics will be insidious, Survey will be tricky, Rope Climbing will be exhausting and CaveSim will require care and precision and the hot tub will be, well, hot. The river is running nicely and the park is better than ever with a new playscape and new waterfront walls and a new water feature. Stefan is working on another delicious menu and Bill is arranging kegs of beer to wash it all down (thanks guys!). There is a crew dedicated to a slide show area and another crew that'll make sure the Loo's all have TP. Yet more hard working and dedicated volunteers making sure you can eat breakfast and get coffee Saturday morning and another group hosting a Wine Tasting Friday evening. There will be live music featured by the band Carnys and rumor has it there will be a Bouncy House too. Vendors are gearing up for your caving related purchases including the TSA Store. There will be a Caving T-Shirt Trading Post trading for cash, goods, small children, livestock or booze. There will be gatherings, groupings, assemblages, couplings, meetings, get togethers, encounters, confluences, convergences and possibly nudity and near nakedness. There will be a parade, costumes, prizes, awards and giggling & pointing. I want everyone to be friendly and gregarious and in a good mood. If you, your children or dogs are mean spirited, loud annoying barkers or prone to pooping on the ground, fighting or stealing - don't come or bring the poopers, fighters, barkers or stealers. Fighting, barking & pooping on the ground or stealing won't be tolerated, we will make fun, take & post pictures and then ostracize. Remember, please, this is a privately owned park whose owner is caver friendly - lets help keep it that way. No glass containers and help make the place better than we found it by cleaning up before we leave, so we can come back in the future. Those of you who rented cabins, please pay Paradise Canyon directly as TCR isn't involved. Take nothing but pictures, leave nothing but footprints kill nothing but time & bring cash, faster horses and more whiskey. --Don ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Punkin Cave Photo
Arburn doesn't know cause he hasn't seen the photo cause he hasn't received the September issue. --Don > On Sep 7, 2015, at 7:31 PM, Carl Kunath via Texascavers > wrote: > > Arburn doesn't know. > I sent a note to Bunnell seeking that information. > It is a great photo! > > ===Carl Kunath > > -Original Message- From: Mixon Bill via Texascavers > Sent: Monday, September 07, 2015 7:09 PM > To: Cavers Texas > Subject: [Texascavers] Punkin Cave Photo > > Anybody know who took that very nice but uncredited photo of Punkin Cave that > is in the September NSS News? -- Mixon > > True bravery is shown by performing without witnesses what one might be > capable of doing before all the world. > > You may "reply" to the address this message > (unless it's a TexasCavers list post) > came from, but for long-term use, save: > Personal: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu > AMCS: a...@mexicancaves.org or sa...@mexicancaves.org > > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
[Texascavers] [TCR][Don's T-Shirt Trading Post]
This year I will be hosting "Don's T-Shirt Trading Post". I'll have some caving shirts up for trade & barter, so remember to bring your own gently used caving T's (or trade items) for trade to TCR. --Don ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] [SuperSpeleOlympics]
We expect it. --Don > On Sep 1, 2015, at 6:39 PM, Charles Loving via Texascavers > wrote: > > Can old geezers play? > >> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 10:36 AM, Aimee Beveridge via Texascavers >> wrote: >> We used to set up a rebelay course. We gave carabiners to everyone who >> completed it. It could be done this year. >> >> The limitations: a site that has decent trees, volunteers to set it up and >> run it, and securing prizes. Anybody interested? >> >> -Aimee >> >> >> >> > On Aug 31, 2015, at 4:04 PM, Mixon Bill via Texascavers >> > wrote: >> > >> > Cons-- >> > >> > The advantage of the traditional obstacle-course SpeleOlympics is that it >> > is a good spectator event at a specific location and at a particular time. >> > (It would be an even better one if the schedule was well announced and >> > adhered to.) Some of the components of proposed SuperSpeleOlympics not >> > good spectator events,especially CaveSim, and they'd be scattered around >> > the site. >> > >> > Any components that aren't already occurring separately would require >> > additional workers and might take help away from the existing contests. >> > >> > People would likely treat a rebelay course that is part of a contest as a >> > race for time, and that is not safe when complicated vertical work is >> > involved, if only because it might encourage bad habits in the real thing. >> > >> > With vertical and surveying components, it would tend to exclude new young >> > cavers, whose enthusiasm is what makes the traditional obstacle-course >> > race work. >> > >> > How would overall winners be determined? >> > >> > I imagine a lot of potential contestants would just think the whole thing >> > was more trouble and time-consuming than it was worth. It's supposed to be >> > a party, after all. How many people participate in more than two of the >> > traditional contests? >> > -- >> > Seems like most of the components happen anyway, and people can just pick >> > and choose what they're interested in. Why try to make it overly organized? >> > >> > A rebelay course (or at least knot-passing and change-over, which require >> > simpler rigging) for training might be nice, but judging by the times the >> > climbing contest has tended to get its act together, I wonder whether the >> > talent to run an additional vertical thing is available. >> > >> > --Mixon >> > >> > True bravery is shown by performing without witnesses what one might be >> > capable of doing before all the world. >> > >> > You may "reply" to the address this message >> > (unless it's a TexasCavers list post) >> > came from, but for long-term use, save: >> > Personal: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu >> > AMCS: a...@mexicancaves.org or sa...@mexicancaves.org >> > >> > ___ >> > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >> > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >> > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >> > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers >> ___ >> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > > > > -- > Charlie Loving > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] [SuperSpeleOlympics]
I agree. Your monkeys, your circus. --Ringmaster > On Aug 31, 2015, at 1:19 PM, Jon via Texascavers > wrote: > > Dear Ringleader, > aaa.., that is Ringmaster, > One option could be each participant gets points for each event: > the traditional speleolympics, points for CaveSim, points for re-balay > course. > They can do any or all. If they do all they go into the Super event group. > > > > > On Monday, August 31, 2015 12:28 PM, Don Arburn via Texascavers > wrote: > > > "Advanced SpeleOlympics"? > > An intriguing idea has surfaced for this years TCR. This idea may incorporate > elements of a re-belay course, CaveSim, squeezebox, water feature and > possibly short adverse survey. > "SuperSpeleOlympics"? > > The concern is twofold: it may not happen again (CaveSim availability and > cost), and concern for those who would normally do Speleolympics but who > don't have adequate vertical skills. > > Can we get regular Speleolympics Officials from the past involved in this > topic? > > Discuss: > > > --Ringmaster > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > > > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
[Texascavers] [SuperSpeleOlympics]
"Advanced SpeleOlympics"? An intriguing idea has surfaced for this years TCR. This idea may incorporate elements of a re-belay course, CaveSim, squeezebox, water feature and possibly short adverse survey. "SuperSpeleOlympics"? The concern is twofold: it may not happen again (CaveSim availability and cost), and concern for those who would normally do Speleolympics but who don't have adequate vertical skills. Can we get regular Speleolympics Officials from the past involved in this topic? Discuss: --Ringmaster ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] [TCR][2015]
> On Aug 25, 2015, at 10:11 PM, Karen via Texascavers > wrote: > > Ha.. in other words, on demand! > > In all seriousness though, the titles are very cute, but perhaps it would be > helpful to describe a little of what they do? Do Charmin Bearers just bring > the tp? Yes, they just bring TP, and distribute to the portojohns as needed. No one should run out of TP. Simple, once a day, go check them, leave TP as needed. Dishwashing is self explanatory. As is the Slideshow Nerd & the Speleolympics Officials. Help or don't. I'm just lining up volunteers early. > And I'm sure some are wondering what the very high profile and respected Loo > Crew really does... The Paradise Canyon Loo Crew keeps the Paradise Canyon Loos clean. > I couldn't make last year's TCR, but fully expect to attend this year and > assist with the activities I've always volunteered for, but maybe I could > help with one of these too? > > Cheers, > Karen Maybe you could. > >> On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 9:57 PM, Stefan Creaser via Texascavers >> wrote: >> Your shift will be from Friday afternoon to Sunday lunchtime ;-) >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of >> Holly Weinstock via Texascavers >> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 9:48 PM >> To: texascavers@texascavers.com >> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] [TCR][2015] >> >> I guess basically - What will I be doing? And when will my shift be? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> > On Aug 25, 2015, at 7:03 PM, Arburn Don via Texascavers >> > wrote: >> > >> > Done! Thanks! Questions? >> > >> >> On Aug 25, 2015, at 4:51 PM, Holly Weinstock via Texascavers wrote: >> >> >> >> I can be a Recycle Gatherer. >> >> Holly Weinstock >> >> >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> >>> On Aug 25, 2015, at 3:39 PM, Arburn Don via Texascavers >> >>> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> O.K. troglodytes & troglodyte lovers, TCR is approaching and it needs >> >>> help in order to happen. Many have already stepped up and currently >> >>> slaving away and are working towards your enjoyment and trouble free fun. >> >>> However, TCR needs some volunteers. >> >>> >> >>> Charmin Bearers >> >>> Paradise Canyon Loo Crew >> >>> Scrubby Dish Washer Crews >> >>> Recycle Gatherers >> >>> Slideshow Nerds >> >>> Speleolympics Officials >> >>> Signmaker >> >>> >> >>> Please give me a shout if you think you can help! >> >>> Thanks! >> >>> >> >>> ~The Ringmaster >> >>> ___ >> >>> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >> >>> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >> >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >> >>> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers >> >> ___ >> >> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >> >> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >> >> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >> >> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers >> > >> > ___ >> > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >> > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >> > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >> > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers >> ___ >> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers >> >> -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are >> confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended >> recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the >> contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the >> information in any medium. Thank you. >> >> ARM Limited, Registered office 110 Fulbourn Road, Cambridge CB1 9NJ, >> Registered in England & Wales, Company No: 2557590 >> ARM Holdings plc, Registered office 110 Fulbourn Road, Cambridge CB1 9NJ, >> Registered in England & Wales, Company No: 2548782 >> ___ >> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] [TCR][2015]
I'd say seeing that there is some attempt at recycling at TCR. The cooks have a can-crusher and some recycling bins, I think. Speak with Stefan. Enlist help, delegate authority. We'll speak again closer to the date. Thank you! --Don > On Aug 25, 2015, at 9:47 PM, Holly Weinstock via Texascavers > wrote: > > I guess basically - What will I be doing? And when will my shift be? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 25, 2015, at 7:03 PM, Arburn Don via Texascavers >> wrote: >> >> Done! Thanks! Questions? >> >>> On Aug 25, 2015, at 4:51 PM, Holly Weinstock via Texascavers wrote: >>> >>> I can be a Recycle Gatherer. >>> Holly Weinstock >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> On Aug 25, 2015, at 3:39 PM, Arburn Don via Texascavers wrote: O.K. troglodytes & troglodyte lovers, TCR is approaching and it needs help in order to happen. Many have already stepped up and currently slaving away and are working towards your enjoyment and trouble free fun. However, TCR needs some volunteers. Charmin Bearers Paradise Canyon Loo Crew Scrubby Dish Washer Crews Recycle Gatherers Slideshow Nerds Speleolympics Officials Signmaker Please give me a shout if you think you can help! Thanks! ~The Ringmaster ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers >>> ___ >>> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >>> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >>> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers >> >> ___ >> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
[Texascavers] [Texas Cavers Reunion 2015]
Only 85 days left until the 2015 Texas Cavers Reunion at Paradise Canyon below Medina Lake! The event begins when I open the park around noon on Thursday, October 15. Currently there is good water flow at Paradise Canyon and Red has made many improvements to it and it looks really nice. There should be more portapotties and ice to sell. Along with the usual activities of swimming, relaxing and socializing there will be vendors, CaveSim, rope climbing, mud wrestling, surveying, Speleolympics, door prizes, live music, parading, clowns, flirting, camping, wine tasting, giggling, slide shows, food, hot tubbing, hammocking, tubing, fishing, costumes, late nights, early meetings, memberships, fellowships, napping, cooking, smiling, beverages, clowns, books, stories, nudity, lies, Aggies, sashaying, laughing, stumbling, beer, hugs, handshakes, guffaws, breakfast tacos, kissing, well behaved dogs, stupid grins (ok, that's just me), pointing, registering, planning, discussing, reminiscing, sauna-ing, friends, photographing, Cavers, dishwashing and hopefully showering. Like usual, well behaved pets & children are welcome, PLEASE be sure to pick up after them. Fighting dogs or people and thieves will be dealt with harshly, for our amusement, then banished. Traditionally the south end of the campground is the quiet end and the dam nude end is a tad louder. Sadly, the rule still stands about percussion musical instruments at the hot tub end. The "Doo-Dah" parade has a Circus theme this year, and naturally there will be prizes for the favorite costume! Bring your favorite camp chairs, hammocks, inner tubes, kayaks, bicycles, bedding, tents, refreshments, snacks, cold beverages, climbing gear and survey instruments. Don't forget, bring a good attitude and a smile! See you there! --Ringmaster Don ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] New Wave Cave
What the hell? --Don > On Jul 12, 2015, at 7:11 PM, Julia Germany via Texascavers > wrote: > > When did Devil's Sinkhole become New Wave Cave, and why? > > > Julia G Germany > germa...@aol.com > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
[Texascavers] [GOAL MET for CaveSim at TCR!]
We reached the goal for getting CaveSim to this years Texas Cavers Reunion! Awesome, y'all won't be disappointed. Great Job & Thank You! For those of you who promised monies now is the time to make good on your promise, as a few already have! I'll need to get the funds to Dave Jackson & CaveSim soon. Please make checks out to: Don Arburn 3046 Laura Lee Way SA TX 78223 Or PayPal me. --Don ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] [CaveSim at TCR!]
Like either of them would venture into it... --Don > On Jun 11, 2015, at 9:08 AM, Diana Tomchick via Texascavers > wrote: > > Has no one actually seen the large trailer that is CaveSim? It’s not tiny. > > Check out the rates here: > > http://www.cavesim.com/pages/schools-and-parties > > Diana > > ** > Diana R. Tomchick > Professor > Departments of Biophysics and Biochemistry > University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center > 5323 Harry Hines Blvd. > Rm. ND10.214A > Dallas, TX 75390-8816 > diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu > (214) 645-6383 (phone) > (214) 645-6353 (fax) > >> On Jun 11, 2015, at 8:51 AM, Fritz Holt via Texascavers >> wrote: >> >> My thoughts also. Must take a semi as in moving a house. >> Fritz >> fritz...@gmail.com >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jun 10, 2015, at 12:35 PM, Mixon Bill via Texascavers >>> wrote: >>> >>> I have no objection to CaveSim at TCR, at least as long as $$ don't add to >>> the registration. But I am moved to point out that $1500 is a lot more than >>> "fuel money," so Dave is not exactly donating the use of it. -- Mixon >>> >>> If something is not worth doing, it is not worth doing well. >>> >>> You may "reply" to the address this message >>> (unless it's a TexasCavers list post) >>> came from, but for long-term use, save: >>> Personal: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu >>> AMCS: a...@mexicancaves.org or sa...@mexicancaves.org >>> >>> ___ >>> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >>> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >>> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers >> ___ >> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > > > > > UT Southwestern > > > Medical Center > > > > The future of medicine, today. > > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
[Texascavers] [CaveSim at TCR!]
Cavers, I am pleased to announce that Dave Jackson and his cave simulator, CaveSim, is available to come to TCR at Paradise Canyon this October. Available. He needs fuel money to get here. Two individuals and two grottos have already committed to donating to the cause - to the tune of $700! Thanks Sheryl, Jerry, Bexar and PBSS grottos! We are halfway there! We need a total of $1,500 for a day visit. An additional day would be an additional $300. The CaveSim is an awesome facsimile and caver skills tester. I personally took part in Alabama, during the NSS convention, in running it, it was VERY popular. The CaveSim was at Paradise Canyon a couple years back and there are local Cavers defending time & score titles! I challenge you. In addition to the REAL caves in the park, let's get the CaveSim here too! TCR is forking over $50 to help, bringing the grand total to $750, what can your group do? --Don ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
