Re: [PBSS] CREE lights

[Ormsby, Matthew A]

Those black and red lights Alex and I have are CREE. They get pretty hot and 
only last about 2 hours (the type we have) but they work well. I think the one 
I have is on it's last leg after many years of caving. I got it wet in Abyss 
climbing out the waterfall last time we went there.

3000 lumens sounds awesome, is that a handheld or head mount? Also, that 
spotlight I have has 3 CREE bulbs. I've smashed it up pretty good now but it's 
also been pretty solid on many trips. It's suppose to be 10 hours on high.  

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Subject: [PBSS] CREE lights

Greetings,
  Anyone have any experiences with CREE headlights? Good? Bad? other wise...
It says 3000 Lumens, It cause pain when I try to look in the beam... And leaves 
a streak like you have looked at a welding light ... temporary though...
It is bright and I have tested it on two  2800 mAh 3.7 v batteries for
48 hours and there is still usable light although not as bright as it was...
Bill

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Re: [SWR] More on Radon

[Ormsby, Matthew A]

I don't think the picture went through earlier, it does plays a role in it but 
there are definitely other reasons because surrounding states like Missouri, 
Illinois, Michigan and Nebraska, all much lower levels. It has to do with how 
much radon is able to escape from the ground. I am not a geologist and have 
zero education in rock but published papers say that during the last ice age, 
rock (which clearly had radium in it) from Minnesota, Wisconsin and Ontario 
were ground up and pushed to Iowa from a glacier, where they were deposited. 
What people should do in that part of the country, and really anywhere if your 
home has a basement or even high ground level readings, is install a fan and 
pipe to the roof. The EPA has a simple picture on their page. Get the air 
moving in the basement and allow it to escape up the pipe and out of the house. 
You can make a basement as safe as anywhere else with a little effort. 

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Is the reason "the most dangerous place to live in the US is Iowa" due to the 
fact that most houses in the Upper Midwest have full basements that get used 
extensively as living spaces?

Diana

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Subject: [SWR] More on Radon

Because people seem to be interested in this topic I've included a few pictures 
followed by a copy and paste from the EPA's page on lung cancer incidence and 
Radon exposure in homes, but cancer is indiscriminate so if your exposure comes 
from the office, your basement, your cigarettes (which contain radon as a 
byproduct of phosphate fertilizers used in tobacco crops) or your favorite cave 
it doesn't matter. Exposure is exposure. The thing with smoking is you are 
breathing radon in every time you smoke so there is a chronic exposure. In the 
world of radiation safety there is an acronym, "ALARA". Which means As Low As 
Reasonably Achievable and works of the basis that any exposure to ionizing 
radiation CAN cause harm, though it often doesn't, but it could. In case the 
pictures don't go through the most dangerous place to live in the US is Iowa 
but the 3rd picture shows that most uranium deposits are in Arizona, Utah, 
Nevada, Wyoming, etc... So uranium doesn't equate to radon, the porosity of the 
bedrock and soil have everything to do with radon escape. Medically, and 
historically, doctors used to use needles that had radium to treat cancer. The 
radium was encased with a double wall of stainless steel and that's plenty to 
prevent any radon from leaking. The radium decay also emits gamma radiation, 
which is energy, and some passes through the steel and interacts with tissue 
when placed in a person. The problem arises when you have a radioactive needle 
that has a half like of 1622 years that could be stolen and used for bad 
things. You'll also see that on a World scale the US is pretty safe. The worlds 
highest levels are found in the Czech Republic at 3.8 pCi/L or 140 Bq/ m3. 
Second is South Korea (though I imagine there isn't data for North Korea) at 
3.4 pCi/L or 124.9 Br/m3. Us averages at 1.3 pCi/ L or 48 Bq/ m3. Typical air 
has about .4 pCi/L so if your a hippy and live outside, you're a bit safer from 
Radon but more prone to snakebites (give and take right). To the point Louise 
made, the risk radon poses is exposure of the lungs to alpha particles, which 
cannot penetrate tissue (like the skin). So if you have a history of lung 
disease or cancer your risk increases as the exposure to radon increases 
because the radon is introduced from respiration. If your history is cervical 
or prostate or brain cancer, radon provides no additional risk. You've all 
probably seen a movie where a person has been in a radiation area and they are 
being scrubbed down by people with long handled brushes with water and soap, 
that is to remove the sticky byproducts of radon decay from the clothing before 
they undress. The masks prevent the alpha particles from being inhaled.

So how much radon is in the area is important, the permeability of the rock 
determines if the radon can escape from the rock, air flow determines if the 
radon collects or is spread out. To what was said earlier,

"It's said caves breathe, mines don't. If that's true there is air excha

[SWR] More on Radon

[Ormsby, Matthew A]

Because people seem to be interested in this topic I've included a few pictures 
followed by a copy and paste from the EPA's page on lung cancer incidence and 
Radon exposure in homes, but cancer is indiscriminate so if your exposure comes 
from the office, your basement, your cigarettes (which contain radon as a 
byproduct of phosphate fertilizers used in tobacco crops) or your favorite cave 
it doesn't matter. Exposure is exposure. The thing with smoking is you are 
breathing radon in every time you smoke so there is a chronic exposure. In the 
world of radiation safety there is an acronym, "ALARA". Which means As Low As 
Reasonably Achievable and works of the basis that any exposure to ionizing 
radiation CAN cause harm, though it often doesn't, but it could. In case the 
pictures don't go through the most dangerous place to live in the US is Iowa 
but the 3rd picture shows that most uranium deposits are in Arizona, Utah, 
Nevada, Wyoming, etc... So uranium doesn't equate to radon, the porosity of the 
bedrock and soil have everything to do with radon escape. Medically, and 
historically, doctors used to use needles that had radium to treat cancer. The 
radium was encased with a double wall of stainless steel and that's plenty to 
prevent any radon from leaking. The radium decay also emits gamma radiation, 
which is energy, and some passes through the steel and interacts with tissue 
when placed in a person. The problem arises when you have a radioactive needle 
that has a half like of 1622 years that could be stolen and used for bad 
things. You'll also see that on a World scale the US is pretty safe. The worlds 
highest levels are found in the Czech Republic at 3.8 pCi/L or 140 Bq/ m3. 
Second is South Korea (though I imagine there isn't data for North Korea) at 
3.4 pCi/L or 124.9 Br/m3. Us averages at 1.3 pCi/ L or 48 Bq/ m3. Typical air 
has about .4 pCi/L so if your a hippy and live outside, you're a bit safer from 
Radon but more prone to snakebites (give and take right). To the point Louise 
made, the risk radon poses is exposure of the lungs to alpha particles, which 
cannot penetrate tissue (like the skin). So if you have a history of lung 
disease or cancer your risk increases as the exposure to radon increases 
because the radon is introduced from respiration. If your history is cervical 
or prostate or brain cancer, radon provides no additional risk. You've all 
probably seen a movie where a person has been in a radiation area and they are 
being scrubbed down by people with long handled brushes with water and soap, 
that is to remove the sticky byproducts of radon decay from the clothing before 
they undress. The masks prevent the alpha particles from being inhaled.

So how much radon is in the area is important, the permeability of the rock 
determines if the radon can escape from the rock, air flow determines if the 
radon collects or is spread out. To what was said earlier,

"It's said caves breathe, mines don't. If that's true there is air exchange and 
subsequently radon removal in caves..." I'm not saying if this statement is 
true then..., I'm saying if a cave breathes there is air exchange and if a mine 
breathes there is air exchange and if there isn't air exchange radon can build 
up to unsafe levels. The level of exchange determines the level of radon not 
removed as a result of air flow regardless of the reason of that flow (natural 
or manmade). And just like a whitewater river has rapids and pools and eddies, 
so do caves. Some areas have good air movement, others have pockets of stale 
air, all within the same cave.



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Your chances of getting lung cancer from radon depend mostly on:

  *   How much radon is in your home
  *   The amount of time you spend in your home
  *   Whether you are a smoker or have ever smoked

Radon Risk If You Smoke

Radon Level If 1,000 people who smoked were exposed to this level over a 
lifetime*...   The risk of cancer from radon exposure compares to**... WHAT 
TO DO:
Stop smoking and...
20 pCi/LAbout 260 people could get lung cancer  250 times the risk of 
drowning  Fix your home
10 pCi/LAbout 150 people could get lung cancer  200 times the risk of 
dying in a home fire  Fix your home
8 pCi/L About 120 people could get lung cancer  30 times the risk of dying in a 
fallFix your home
4 pCi/L About 62 people could get lung cancer   5 times the risk of dying in a 
car crashFix your home
2 pCi/L About 32 people could get lung cancer   6 times the risk of dying from 
poison   Consider fixing between 2 and 4 pCi/L
1.3 pCi/L   A

Re: [SWR] BLM reopens Wyoming's Natural Trap Cave

[Ormsby, Matthew A]

So I've been debating on if I should reply to this or not because what seems 
like a simple question has a very complicated answer. First, I don't know 
anything about the cavers mentioned but I do know about radiation and legal 
exposure limits. Geiger Counters are all different and have different levels of 
sensitivity but the Geiger counter here at work "maxes" out at 2000 mR/hr. In 
radiation and radiation safety there are several different ways to measure 
things, for example "R" is exposure in air, REM is in an occupational worker, 
Gy or Sv is in a person who is deliberately being treated with radiation, 
gamma, beta, Ci, Bq... All different levels of radioactivity. To overly 
simplify, I will try and interchange them roughly. So, maxes out at 2000mR/ hr. 
An accepted dose for a non radiation worker, which is all of you, is 100 mR/ 
year (which indicates a single exposure like in a cave) or 500 mR from multiple 
brief exposures. So, if a Geiger counter were being maxed out, you could not 
legally be allowed in that cave, nor would you want to be in that cave.

So that's a dose for a person, for an area a person can step into, an 
uncontrolled area can emit 5000 mR/ year or 10 mR/ week. Again, 2000 mR/ hr 
versus 10mR/ week. Big difference.

As is mentioned below the danger from radiation in caves comes from Radon 
exposure, which is a gas that decays alpha particles (big damaging particles) 
as does its daughter decay elements, as well as electrons and photons until it 
eventually becomes stable, as lead, some 20 something years later. Uranium to 
Radium to Radon to Lead with a whole bunch of other elements in between. Radium 
takes 1600 years to decay, but in a non ventilated area that decay (radon), can 
build up in a gas form (which is why basements in some areas are ventilated), 
so it's always there as a constant byproduct of the amount and type of rock in 
the area. As a gas Radon is breathed into the lungs and since it's half life is 
only about 4 days it could decay as or just after you breathe it in. It's 
daughter products are "sticky" and can adhere to dust in the air or tissue in 
your lungs. Alpha particles have a relative biological effectiveness 20 times 
higher than x-ray, like the type you could be exposed to getting a CT scan. So 
an element that emits a 300kv photon carries an RBE of 300, an element emitting 
a 300kv alpha particle carries an RBE of 6000. Radon exposure doesn't lead to 
death ( at least it's not well documented unless you piss off the Russian 
government) but it does cause lung cancer, 21,000 deaths a year and is the 
second leading cause of lung cancer behind smoking and the number one cause in 
non smokers.

Hope that help. I doubt anyone was flying rock out and if they were it wasn't 
because of radiation levels. They might have limited access because of higher 
(but still legally safe) radon levels.

It should also be noted that 200,000 mR causes acute radiation sickness, as was 
the case among atomic bomb survivors, so 200,000 divided by 2000mR/ hr would be 
100 hours in a cave, after which you have a 5% chance of dying. BUT radon= 
alpha= RBE of 20= 5 hours. At that level, after 20 hours the odds of dying go 
up to 80-100 percent after suffering for weeks and weeks as your cells 
basically explode one by one. Again, this is all a gross simplification.

Carl, your question just posted, there are completely different guidelines for 
mining uranium as well. It's said caves breathe, mines don't. If that's true 
there is air exchange and subsequently radon removal in caves (which leads to 
consistent levels of radon- not increasing or decreasing left alone at 5 pm 
during the summer when its 95 degrees outside from year to year) but not in 
mines. Temperature, atmospheric pressure, wind, all effect pockets of radon. 
That is why mines are required to have, among other reasons, awesome 
ventilation systems. "Some types of rocks have higher than average uranium 
contents. These include light-colored volcanic rocks, granites, dark shales, 
sedimentary rocks that contain phosphate, and metamorphic rocks derived from 
these rocks. These rocks and their soils may contain as much as 100 ppm 
uranium. Layers of these rocks underlie various parts of the United States." US 
Geological Survey. A "working level" of a uranium mine is allowed to be 7000 
Bq/ m3 in air. It is of interest that some non ventilated mines have reached 
levels of 1,000,000 Bq/ m3 (might want to make a call to OSHA on that one). 

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Carl Pagano  wrote:

>Don't know. I heard rumors that the reason that Holy Sheep was open 
>only = to one trip a year was because the geiger counter had registered 
>either = max, or close to it. Paha Sapa Grotto in Wyoming would have a 
>better = idea, but I was ho

[PBSS] May PBSS Meeting

[Ormsby, Matthew A]

All,
The next meeting of the Permian Basin Speleological Society is Thursday May 
15th, 2014 at 7:00 p.m. We are still at Murray's Delicatessen in Midland, 
Texas. Murray's is located at 3211 West Wadley in Midland. We meet in the back 
room. Come early & have dinner--we have the room starting at 6:00.

We will discuss this months upcoming trips to Ess Cave and Abyss Cave. Those 
wanting to go on the trip are encouraged to attend or contact me before the 
30th. We'll also highlight the upcoming scheduled summer conventions of the NSS 
and SWR.

Any and all are welcome! For further information about the Permian Basin 
Speleological Society contact: Matthew Ormsby ma_orm...@msn.com, Jacqui Thomas 
jlrtho...@verizon.net , Bill Bentley 
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[PBSS] February Meeting of the PBSS

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All,
The next meeting of the Permian Basin Speleological Society is Thursday 
February 20, 2014 at 7:00 p.m. We are still at Murray's Delicatessen in 
Midland, Texas. Murray's is located at 3211 West Wadley in Midland. We meet in 
the back room. Come early & have dinner--we have the room starting at 6:00.

There are a few caving opportunities coming up in March that will be 
highlighted, one vertical and one horizontal.

Any and all are welcome! For further information about the Permian Basin 
Speleological Society contact: Matthew Ormsby ma_orm...@msn.com, Jacqui Thomas 
jlrtho...@verizon.net , Bill Bentley ca...@caver.net

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[PBSS] December Meeting of the PBSS

[Ormsby, Matthew A]

All,
The next meeting of the Permian Basin Speleological Society is Thursday 
December 20th, 2013 at 7:00 p.m. We are still at Murray's Delicatessen in 
Midland, Texas. Murray's is located at 3211 West Wadley in Midland. We meet in 
the back room. Come early & have dinner--we have the room starting at 6:00.

We'll highlight the 22nd-23rd trip to the TCMA Preserve. Hopefully we'll also 
plan some trips for 2014.

Any and all are welcome! For further information about the Permian Basin 
Speleological Society contact: Matthew Ormsby ma_orm...@msn.com, Jacqui Thomas 
jlrtho...@verizon.net , Bill Bentley ca...@caver.net, or Patrick Ray 
patrickray...@yahoo.com

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[PBSS] PBSS Monthly Meeting Schedule Change

[Ormsby, Matthew A]

Cavers,

The monthly meeting of the PBSS has been changed from the second Tuesday of 
every month to the third Thursday of every month in an attempt to accommodate 
current cavers schedules. It will still be at Murray's in Midland Texas and has 
been Ok'ed with them.

Matthew Ormsby
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[SWR] PBSS Monthly Meeting Cancelled

[Ormsby, Matthew A]

The July Meeting of the PBSS has been cancelled. I am tied up at work and have 
not had the opportunity to make arrangements with any of the other officers. 
Please contact me by e-mail with any questions or concerns and get the word out 
to those who might have attended this evening.

Matthew Ormsby
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[SWR] PBSS Monthly Meeting Cancelled

[Ormsby, Matthew A]

The July Meeting of the PBSS has been cancelled. I am tied up at work and have 
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Please contact me by e-mail with any questions or concerns and get the word out 
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[SWR] PBSS Monthly Meeting Cancelled

[Ormsby, Matthew A]

The July Meeting of the PBSS has been cancelled. I am tied up at work and have 
not had the opportunity to make arrangements with any of the other officers. 
Please contact me by e-mail with any questions or concerns and get the word out 
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[SWR] June Meeting of the PBSS

[Ormsby, Matthew A]

All,
The next meeting of the Permian Basin Speleological Society is Tuesday June 
11th, 2013 at 7:00 p.m. We are still at Murray's Delicatessen in Midland, 
Texas. Murray's is located at 3211 West Wadley in Midland. We meet in the back 
room. Come early & have dinner--we have the room starting at 6:00

I anticipate a short meeting highlighting trips to Ess and Abyss Cave from our 
June 1st trip. We also hope to schedule trips for July and August based on 
interest and availability.

Any and all are welcome! For further information about the Permian Basin 
Speleological Society contact: Matthew Ormsby 
ma_orm...@msn.commailto:ma_orm...@msn.com> Jacqui Thomas 
jlrtho...@verizon.netmailto:jlrtho...@verizon.net> , Bill Bentley 
ca...@caver.net, or Patrick Ray patrickray...@yahoo.com

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[SWR] June Meeting of the PBSS

[Ormsby, Matthew A]

All,
The next meeting of the Permian Basin Speleological Society is Tuesday June 
11th, 2013 at 7:00 p.m. We are still at Murray's Delicatessen in Midland, 
Texas. Murray's is located at 3211 West Wadley in Midland. We meet in the back 
room. Come early & have dinner--we have the room starting at 6:00

I anticipate a short meeting highlighting trips to Ess and Abyss Cave from our 
June 1st trip. We also hope to schedule trips for July and August based on 
interest and availability.

Any and all are welcome! For further information about the Permian Basin 
Speleological Society contact: Matthew Ormsby 
ma_orm...@msn.commailto:ma_orm...@msn.com> Jacqui Thomas 
jlrtho...@verizon.netmailto:jlrtho...@verizon.net> , Bill Bentley 
ca...@caver.net, or Patrick Ray patrickray...@yahoo.com

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[SWR] June Meeting of the PBSS

[Ormsby, Matthew A]

All,
The next meeting of the Permian Basin Speleological Society is Tuesday June 
11th, 2013 at 7:00 p.m. We are still at Murray's Delicatessen in Midland, 
Texas. Murray's is located at 3211 West Wadley in Midland. We meet in the back 
room. Come early & have dinner--we have the room starting at 6:00

I anticipate a short meeting highlighting trips to Ess and Abyss Cave from our 
June 1st trip. We also hope to schedule trips for July and August based on 
interest and availability.

Any and all are welcome! For further information about the Permian Basin 
Speleological Society contact: Matthew Ormsby 
ma_orm...@msn.commailto:ma_orm...@msn.com> Jacqui Thomas 
jlrtho...@verizon.netmailto:jlrtho...@verizon.net> , Bill Bentley 
ca...@caver.net, or Patrick Ray patrickray...@yahoo.com

PBSS web page:
http://www.caver.net/pbss/pbss.htmlhttp://www.caver.net/pbss/pbss.html>
The Permian Basin Speleological Society was founded in October 1983 and was 
chartered as the 300th grotto of the National Speleological Society on January 
18, 1984. The Permian Basin Speleological Society is an affiliated grotto or 
Caving club with the Texas Speleological Association and the Southwestern 
Region of the National Speleological Society and supports the cave conservation 
ethics of the National Speleological Society.

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[SWR] May Meeting of the PBSS

[Ormsby, Matthew A]

All,
The next meeting of the Permian Basin Speleological Society is Tuesday
May 14th, 2013 at 7:00 p.m. We are still at Murray's Delicatessen in
Midland, Texas. Murray's is located at 3211 West Wadley in Midland. We
meet in the back room. Come early & have dinner--we have the room
starting at 6:00


Plans for a June 1st trip to Ess Cave and Abyss Cave will be finalized.
Video and Photo's from a recent trip to Virgin Cave will be presented.
Info regarding a CCNP restoration activity will also be addressed. 
 
Any and all are welcome! For further information about the Permian Basin
Speleological Society contact: Matthew Ormsby ma_orm...@msn.com
mailto:ma_orm...@msn.com>  Jacqui Thomas jlrtho...@verizon.net
mailto:jlrtho...@verizon.net>  , Bill Bentley ca...@caver.net,
or Patrick Ray patrickray...@yahoo.com

PBSS web page:
http://www.caver.net/pbss/pbss.html
http://www.caver.net/pbss/pbss.html> 
The Permian Basin Speleological Society was founded in October 1983 and
was chartered as the 300th grotto of the National Speleological Society
on January 18, 1984. The Permian Basin Speleological Society is an
affiliated grotto or Caving club with the Texas Speleological
Association and the Southwestern Region of the National Speleological
Society and supports the cave conservation ethics of the National
Speleological Society.
 
PBSS mailing list
p...@caver.net
http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/pbss_caver.net

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[SWR] May Meeting of the PBSS

[Ormsby, Matthew A]

All,
The next meeting of the Permian Basin Speleological Society is Tuesday
May 14th, 2013 at 7:00 p.m. We are still at Murray's Delicatessen in
Midland, Texas. Murray's is located at 3211 West Wadley in Midland. We
meet in the back room. Come early & have dinner--we have the room
starting at 6:00


Plans for a June 1st trip to Ess Cave and Abyss Cave will be finalized.
Video and Photo's from a recent trip to Virgin Cave will be presented.
Info regarding a CCNP restoration activity will also be addressed. 
 
Any and all are welcome! For further information about the Permian Basin
Speleological Society contact: Matthew Ormsby ma_orm...@msn.com
mailto:ma_orm...@msn.com>  Jacqui Thomas jlrtho...@verizon.net
mailto:jlrtho...@verizon.net>  , Bill Bentley ca...@caver.net,
or Patrick Ray patrickray...@yahoo.com

PBSS web page:
http://www.caver.net/pbss/pbss.html
http://www.caver.net/pbss/pbss.html> 
The Permian Basin Speleological Society was founded in October 1983 and
was chartered as the 300th grotto of the National Speleological Society
on January 18, 1984. The Permian Basin Speleological Society is an
affiliated grotto or Caving club with the Texas Speleological
Association and the Southwestern Region of the National Speleological
Society and supports the cave conservation ethics of the National
Speleological Society.
 
PBSS mailing list
p...@caver.net
http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/pbss_caver.net

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[SWR] May Meeting of the PBSS

[Ormsby, Matthew A]

All,
The next meeting of the Permian Basin Speleological Society is Tuesday
May 14th, 2013 at 7:00 p.m. We are still at Murray's Delicatessen in
Midland, Texas. Murray's is located at 3211 West Wadley in Midland. We
meet in the back room. Come early & have dinner--we have the room
starting at 6:00


Plans for a June 1st trip to Ess Cave and Abyss Cave will be finalized.
Video and Photo's from a recent trip to Virgin Cave will be presented.
Info regarding a CCNP restoration activity will also be addressed. 
 
Any and all are welcome! For further information about the Permian Basin
Speleological Society contact: Matthew Ormsby ma_orm...@msn.com
mailto:ma_orm...@msn.com>  Jacqui Thomas jlrtho...@verizon.net
mailto:jlrtho...@verizon.net>  , Bill Bentley ca...@caver.net,
or Patrick Ray patrickray...@yahoo.com

PBSS web page:
http://www.caver.net/pbss/pbss.html
http://www.caver.net/pbss/pbss.html> 
The Permian Basin Speleological Society was founded in October 1983 and
was chartered as the 300th grotto of the National Speleological Society
on January 18, 1984. The Permian Basin Speleological Society is an
affiliated grotto or Caving club with the Texas Speleological
Association and the Southwestern Region of the National Speleological
Society and supports the cave conservation ethics of the National
Speleological Society.
 
PBSS mailing list
p...@caver.net
http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/pbss_caver.net

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[SWR] April PBSS Meeting

[Ormsby, Matthew A]

All,
The next meeting of the Permian Basin Speleological Society is Tuesday
April 9th, 2013 at 7:00 p.m. We are still at Murray's Delicatessen in
Midland, Texas. Murray's is located at 3211 West Wadley in Midland. We
meet in the back room. Come early & have dinner--we have the room
starting at 6:00


The TSA Spring Convention is approaching and there is some information
concerning it. There isn't too much other information to discuss. Spring
trips will be on the agenda. 
 
Any and all are welcome! For further information about the Permian Basin
Speleological Society contact: Matthew Ormsby ma_orm...@msn.com
mailto:ma_orm...@msn.com>  Jacqui Thomas jlrtho...@verizon.net
mailto:jlrtho...@verizon.net>  , Bill Bentley ca...@caver.net,
or Patrick Ray patrickray...@yahoo.com

PBSS web page:
http://www.caver.net/pbss/pbss.html
http://www.caver.net/pbss/pbss.html> 
The Permian Basin Speleological Society was founded in October 1983 and
was chartered as the 300th grotto of the National Speleological Society
on January 18, 1984. The Permian Basin Speleological Society is an
affiliated grotto or Caving club with the Texas Speleological
Association and the Southwestern Region of the National Speleological
Society and supports the cave conservation ethics of the National
Speleological Society.
 
PBSS mailing list
p...@caver.net
http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/pbss_caver.net

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[SWR] April PBSS Meeting

[Ormsby, Matthew A]

All,
The next meeting of the Permian Basin Speleological Society is Tuesday
April 9th, 2013 at 7:00 p.m. We are still at Murray's Delicatessen in
Midland, Texas. Murray's is located at 3211 West Wadley in Midland. We
meet in the back room. Come early & have dinner--we have the room
starting at 6:00


The TSA Spring Convention is approaching and there is some information
concerning it. There isn't too much other information to discuss. Spring
trips will be on the agenda. 
 
Any and all are welcome! For further information about the Permian Basin
Speleological Society contact: Matthew Ormsby ma_orm...@msn.com
mailto:ma_orm...@msn.com>  Jacqui Thomas jlrtho...@verizon.net
mailto:jlrtho...@verizon.net>  , Bill Bentley ca...@caver.net,
or Patrick Ray patrickray...@yahoo.com

PBSS web page:
http://www.caver.net/pbss/pbss.html
http://www.caver.net/pbss/pbss.html> 
The Permian Basin Speleological Society was founded in October 1983 and
was chartered as the 300th grotto of the National Speleological Society
on January 18, 1984. The Permian Basin Speleological Society is an
affiliated grotto or Caving club with the Texas Speleological
Association and the Southwestern Region of the National Speleological
Society and supports the cave conservation ethics of the National
Speleological Society.
 
PBSS mailing list
p...@caver.net
http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/pbss_caver.net

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[SWR] April PBSS Meeting

[Ormsby, Matthew A]

All,
The next meeting of the Permian Basin Speleological Society is Tuesday
April 9th, 2013 at 7:00 p.m. We are still at Murray's Delicatessen in
Midland, Texas. Murray's is located at 3211 West Wadley in Midland. We
meet in the back room. Come early & have dinner--we have the room
starting at 6:00


The TSA Spring Convention is approaching and there is some information
concerning it. There isn't too much other information to discuss. Spring
trips will be on the agenda. 
 
Any and all are welcome! For further information about the Permian Basin
Speleological Society contact: Matthew Ormsby ma_orm...@msn.com
mailto:ma_orm...@msn.com>  Jacqui Thomas jlrtho...@verizon.net
mailto:jlrtho...@verizon.net>  , Bill Bentley ca...@caver.net,
or Patrick Ray patrickray...@yahoo.com

PBSS web page:
http://www.caver.net/pbss/pbss.html
http://www.caver.net/pbss/pbss.html> 
The Permian Basin Speleological Society was founded in October 1983 and
was chartered as the 300th grotto of the National Speleological Society
on January 18, 1984. The Permian Basin Speleological Society is an
affiliated grotto or Caving club with the Texas Speleological
Association and the Southwestern Region of the National Speleological
Society and supports the cave conservation ethics of the National
Speleological Society.
 
PBSS mailing list
p...@caver.net
http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/pbss_caver.net

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[SWR] Monthly PBSS Meeting

[Ormsby, Matthew A]

All,
The next meeting of the Permian Basin Speleological Society is Tuesday
March 12th, 2013 at 7:00 p.m. We are still at Murray's Delicatessen in
Midland, Texas. Murray's is located at 3211 West Wadley in Midland. We
meet in the back room. Come early & have dinner--we have the room
starting at 6:00

A trip report on Chimney Cave will be given. A report on the PBSS lead
trip for the PBOC to Amazing Maze this past weekend will also be
discussed.
The TCMA Spring Convention is approaching and there is some information
concerning it. 
 
Any and all are welcome! For further information about the Permian Basin
Speleological Society contact: Matthew Ormsby ma_orm...@msn.com
mailto:ma_orm...@msn.com>  Jacqui Thomas jlrtho...@verizon.net
mailto:jlrtho...@verizon.net>  , Bill Bentley ca...@caver.net,
or Patrick Ray patrickray...@yahoo.com

PBSS web page:
http://www.caver.net/pbss/pbss.html
http://www.caver.net/pbss/pbss.html> 
The Permian Basin Speleological Society was founded in October 1983 and
was chartered as the 300th grotto of the National Speleological Society
on January 18, 1984. The Permian Basin Speleological Society is an
affiliated grotto or Caving club with the Texas Speleological
Association and the Southwestern Region of the National Speleological
Society and supports the cave conservation ethics of the National
Speleological Society.
 
PBSS mailing list
p...@caver.net
http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/pbss_caver.net

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[SWR] Monthly PBSS Meeting

[Ormsby, Matthew A]

All,
The next meeting of the Permian Basin Speleological Society is Tuesday
March 12th, 2013 at 7:00 p.m. We are still at Murray's Delicatessen in
Midland, Texas. Murray's is located at 3211 West Wadley in Midland. We
meet in the back room. Come early & have dinner--we have the room
starting at 6:00

A trip report on Chimney Cave will be given. A report on the PBSS lead
trip for the PBOC to Amazing Maze this past weekend will also be
discussed.
The TCMA Spring Convention is approaching and there is some information
concerning it. 
 
Any and all are welcome! For further information about the Permian Basin
Speleological Society contact: Matthew Ormsby ma_orm...@msn.com
mailto:ma_orm...@msn.com>  Jacqui Thomas jlrtho...@verizon.net
mailto:jlrtho...@verizon.net>  , Bill Bentley ca...@caver.net,
or Patrick Ray patrickray...@yahoo.com

PBSS web page:
http://www.caver.net/pbss/pbss.html
http://www.caver.net/pbss/pbss.html> 
The Permian Basin Speleological Society was founded in October 1983 and
was chartered as the 300th grotto of the National Speleological Society
on January 18, 1984. The Permian Basin Speleological Society is an
affiliated grotto or Caving club with the Texas Speleological
Association and the Southwestern Region of the National Speleological
Society and supports the cave conservation ethics of the National
Speleological Society.
 
PBSS mailing list
p...@caver.net
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[SWR] Monthly PBSS Meeting

[Ormsby, Matthew A]

All,
The next meeting of the Permian Basin Speleological Society is Tuesday
March 12th, 2013 at 7:00 p.m. We are still at Murray's Delicatessen in
Midland, Texas. Murray's is located at 3211 West Wadley in Midland. We
meet in the back room. Come early & have dinner--we have the room
starting at 6:00

A trip report on Chimney Cave will be given. A report on the PBSS lead
trip for the PBOC to Amazing Maze this past weekend will also be
discussed.
The TCMA Spring Convention is approaching and there is some information
concerning it. 
 
Any and all are welcome! For further information about the Permian Basin
Speleological Society contact: Matthew Ormsby ma_orm...@msn.com
mailto:ma_orm...@msn.com>  Jacqui Thomas jlrtho...@verizon.net
mailto:jlrtho...@verizon.net>  , Bill Bentley ca...@caver.net,
or Patrick Ray patrickray...@yahoo.com

PBSS web page:
http://www.caver.net/pbss/pbss.html
http://www.caver.net/pbss/pbss.html> 
The Permian Basin Speleological Society was founded in October 1983 and
was chartered as the 300th grotto of the National Speleological Society
on January 18, 1984. The Permian Basin Speleological Society is an
affiliated grotto or Caving club with the Texas Speleological
Association and the Southwestern Region of the National Speleological
Society and supports the cave conservation ethics of the National
Speleological Society.
 
PBSS mailing list
p...@caver.net
http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/pbss_caver.net

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[SWR] Feb Meeting of PBSS

[Ormsby, Matthew A]

All,
The next meeting of the Permian Basin Speleological Society is Tuesday
Feb 12th, 2013 at 7:00 p.m. That's tonight for anyone that's really
paying attention. We are still at Murray's Delicatessen in Midland,
Texas. Murray's is located at 3211 West Wadley in Midland. We meet in
the back room. Come early & have dinner--we have the room starting at
6:00

We are looking at firming up details for the end of the month caving
trip. I'll also show some highlights of 2012 for anyone interested in
viewing them. 
 
Any and all are welcome! For further information about the Permian Basin
Speleological Society contact: Matthew Ormsby ma_orm...@msn.com
mailto:ma_orm...@msn.com>  Jacqui Thomas
jlrtho...@verizon.net mailto:jlrtho...@verizon.net>
, Bill Bentley ca...@caver.net, or Patrick Ray patrickray...@yahoo.com

PBSS web page:
http://www.caver.net/pbss/pbss.html
http://www.caver.net/pbss/pbss.html> 
The Permian Basin Speleological Society was founded in October 1983 and
was chartered as the 300th grotto of the National Speleological Society
on January 18, 1984. The Permian Basin Speleological Society is an
affiliated grotto or Caving club with the Texas Speleological
Association and the Southwestern Region of the National Speleological
Society and supports the cave conservation ethics of the National
Speleological Society.
 
PBSS mailing list
p...@caver.net
http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/pbss_caver.net

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[SWR] Feb Meeting of PBSS

[Ormsby, Matthew A]

All,
The next meeting of the Permian Basin Speleological Society is Tuesday
Feb 12th, 2013 at 7:00 p.m. That's tonight for anyone that's really
paying attention. We are still at Murray's Delicatessen in Midland,
Texas. Murray's is located at 3211 West Wadley in Midland. We meet in
the back room. Come early & have dinner--we have the room starting at
6:00

We are looking at firming up details for the end of the month caving
trip. I'll also show some highlights of 2012 for anyone interested in
viewing them. 
 
Any and all are welcome! For further information about the Permian Basin
Speleological Society contact: Matthew Ormsby ma_orm...@msn.com
mailto:ma_orm...@msn.com>  Jacqui Thomas
jlrtho...@verizon.net mailto:jlrtho...@verizon.net>
, Bill Bentley ca...@caver.net, or Patrick Ray patrickray...@yahoo.com

PBSS web page:
http://www.caver.net/pbss/pbss.html
http://www.caver.net/pbss/pbss.html> 
The Permian Basin Speleological Society was founded in October 1983 and
was chartered as the 300th grotto of the National Speleological Society
on January 18, 1984. The Permian Basin Speleological Society is an
affiliated grotto or Caving club with the Texas Speleological
Association and the Southwestern Region of the National Speleological
Society and supports the cave conservation ethics of the National
Speleological Society.
 
PBSS mailing list
p...@caver.net
http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/pbss_caver.net

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[SWR] Feb Meeting of PBSS

[Ormsby, Matthew A]

All,
The next meeting of the Permian Basin Speleological Society is Tuesday
Feb 12th, 2013 at 7:00 p.m. That's tonight for anyone that's really
paying attention. We are still at Murray's Delicatessen in Midland,
Texas. Murray's is located at 3211 West Wadley in Midland. We meet in
the back room. Come early & have dinner--we have the room starting at
6:00

We are looking at firming up details for the end of the month caving
trip. I'll also show some highlights of 2012 for anyone interested in
viewing them. 
 
Any and all are welcome! For further information about the Permian Basin
Speleological Society contact: Matthew Ormsby ma_orm...@msn.com
mailto:ma_orm...@msn.com>  Jacqui Thomas
jlrtho...@verizon.net mailto:jlrtho...@verizon.net>
, Bill Bentley ca...@caver.net, or Patrick Ray patrickray...@yahoo.com

PBSS web page:
http://www.caver.net/pbss/pbss.html
http://www.caver.net/pbss/pbss.html> 
The Permian Basin Speleological Society was founded in October 1983 and
was chartered as the 300th grotto of the National Speleological Society
on January 18, 1984. The Permian Basin Speleological Society is an
affiliated grotto or Caving club with the Texas Speleological
Association and the Southwestern Region of the National Speleological
Society and supports the cave conservation ethics of the National
Speleological Society.
 
PBSS mailing list
p...@caver.net
http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/pbss_caver.net

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[SWR] January Meeting

[Ormsby, Matthew A]

All,
The next meeting of the Permian Basin Speleological Society is Tuesday
January 8th, 2013 at 7:00 p.m. We are still at Murray's Delicatessen in
Midland, Texas. Murray's is located at 3211 West Wadley in Midland. We
meet in the back room. Come early & have dinner--we have the room
starting at 6:00

Patrick will be leading the meeting.
 
Any and all are welcome! For further information about the Permian Basin
Speleological Society contact: Matthew Ormsby ma_orm...@msn.com
mailto:ma_orm...@msn.com>  Jacqui Thomas jlrtho...@verizon.net
mailto:jlrtho...@verizon.net>  , Bill Bentley ca...@caver.net,
or Patrick Ray patrickray...@yahoo.com

PBSS web page:
http://www.caver.net/pbss/pbss.html
http://www.caver.net/pbss/pbss.html> 
The Permian Basin Speleological Society was founded in October 1983 and
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[SWR] January Meeting

[Ormsby, Matthew A]

All,
The next meeting of the Permian Basin Speleological Society is Tuesday
January 8th, 2013 at 7:00 p.m. We are still at Murray's Delicatessen in
Midland, Texas. Murray's is located at 3211 West Wadley in Midland. We
meet in the back room. Come early & have dinner--we have the room
starting at 6:00

Patrick will be leading the meeting.
 
Any and all are welcome! For further information about the Permian Basin
Speleological Society contact: Matthew Ormsby ma_orm...@msn.com
mailto:ma_orm...@msn.com>  Jacqui Thomas jlrtho...@verizon.net
mailto:jlrtho...@verizon.net>  , Bill Bentley ca...@caver.net,
or Patrick Ray patrickray...@yahoo.com

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was chartered as the 300th grotto of the National Speleological Society
on January 18, 1984. The Permian Basin Speleological Society is an
affiliated grotto or Caving club with the Texas Speleological
Association and the Southwestern Region of the National Speleological
Society and supports the cave conservation ethics of the National
Speleological Society.
 
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[SWR] January Meeting

[Ormsby, Matthew A]

All,
The next meeting of the Permian Basin Speleological Society is Tuesday
January 8th, 2013 at 7:00 p.m. We are still at Murray's Delicatessen in
Midland, Texas. Murray's is located at 3211 West Wadley in Midland. We
meet in the back room. Come early & have dinner--we have the room
starting at 6:00

Patrick will be leading the meeting.
 
Any and all are welcome! For further information about the Permian Basin
Speleological Society contact: Matthew Ormsby ma_orm...@msn.com
mailto:ma_orm...@msn.com>  Jacqui Thomas jlrtho...@verizon.net
mailto:jlrtho...@verizon.net>  , Bill Bentley ca...@caver.net,
or Patrick Ray patrickray...@yahoo.com

PBSS web page:
http://www.caver.net/pbss/pbss.html
http://www.caver.net/pbss/pbss.html> 
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was chartered as the 300th grotto of the National Speleological Society
on January 18, 1984. The Permian Basin Speleological Society is an
affiliated grotto or Caving club with the Texas Speleological
Association and the Southwestern Region of the National Speleological
Society and supports the cave conservation ethics of the National
Speleological Society.
 
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[SWR] December Meeting

[Ormsby, Matthew A]

Cavers, 
 
There will not be a December Meeting of the PBSS. We are still trying to
work out a Christmas Party but there were conflicts for many for this
Saturday. We are looking at scheduling a party during the week next week
sometime. I have not heard from many members so if you are interested in
having a Christmas party next week, early in the week, please respond to
this e-mail.
 
Again, there will not be a meeting of the PBSS tomorrow. 
 
Have a great week.
 
Matthew Ormsby
PBSS President
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[SWR] December Meeting

[Ormsby, Matthew A]

Cavers, 
 
There will not be a December Meeting of the PBSS. We are still trying to
work out a Christmas Party but there were conflicts for many for this
Saturday. We are looking at scheduling a party during the week next week
sometime. I have not heard from many members so if you are interested in
having a Christmas party next week, early in the week, please respond to
this e-mail.
 
Again, there will not be a meeting of the PBSS tomorrow. 
 
Have a great week.
 
Matthew Ormsby
PBSS President
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[SWR] December Meeting

[Ormsby, Matthew A]

Cavers, 
 
There will not be a December Meeting of the PBSS. We are still trying to
work out a Christmas Party but there were conflicts for many for this
Saturday. We are looking at scheduling a party during the week next week
sometime. I have not heard from many members so if you are interested in
having a Christmas party next week, early in the week, please respond to
this e-mail.
 
Again, there will not be a meeting of the PBSS tomorrow. 
 
Have a great week.
 
Matthew Ormsby
PBSS President
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[PBSS] December Meeting

[Ormsby, Matthew A]

Cavers, 
 
I do not have any significant meeting items to discuss in December. I am
willing to compile a presentation of PBSS caving activities from 2012 if
anyone is interested in having a Christmas party. I would be willing to
host the party at my house in Odessa on the 15th of December if there
are enough interested participants. If not we'll have our traditional
monthly meeting on Tuesday at Murray's, in which I could still show the
presentation, but I don't have any business to discuss. Please let me
know your interest and availability over the weekend and I'll send out a
final determination by Monday. 
 
Matthew
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[PBSS] December Meeting

[Ormsby, Matthew A]

Cavers, 
 
I do not have any significant meeting items to discuss in December. I am
willing to compile a presentation of PBSS caving activities from 2012 if
anyone is interested in having a Christmas party. I would be willing to
host the party at my house in Odessa on the 15th of December if there
are enough interested participants. If not we'll have our traditional
monthly meeting on Tuesday at Murray's, in which I could still show the
presentation, but I don't have any business to discuss. Please let me
know your interest and availability over the weekend and I'll send out a
final determination by Monday. 
 
Matthew
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[PBSS] December Meeting

[Ormsby, Matthew A]

Cavers, 
 
I do not have any significant meeting items to discuss in December. I am
willing to compile a presentation of PBSS caving activities from 2012 if
anyone is interested in having a Christmas party. I would be willing to
host the party at my house in Odessa on the 15th of December if there
are enough interested participants. If not we'll have our traditional
monthly meeting on Tuesday at Murray's, in which I could still show the
presentation, but I don't have any business to discuss. Please let me
know your interest and availability over the weekend and I'll send out a
final determination by Monday. 
 
Matthew
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[PBSS] November Meeting

[Ormsby, Matthew A]

The November meeting of the PBSS was held on Tuesday the 13th. The
meeting began at 7:00 pm and was attended by:
 
Matthew Ormsby, Tristan Ormsby, Ben Fowler, Bill Bentley, Walter
Feaster, Rule Metcalf, Patrick Ray, Laura Liem and Luke and Kat (whose
last names I obviously don't know). 
 
A financial report was given by Walter. New memberships and bat stickers
brought the clubs total to 871.79. 
 
Bill gave a brief report on the TCR. Approximately 360 individuals
participated. 
 
Some time was spent speaking about the upcoming trip to the Deep and
Punkin Nature Preserve. Interested parties were given directions. This
trip is scheduled for Friday the 23rd and Saturday the 24th 5 miles from
Carta Valley Texas near Del Rio. Anyone interested in going that reads
this remailer should contact me by Wednesday the 21st. Information on
both caves can be found on the TCMA website. 
 
Interest was also gauged in participating in a December trip. The
interest seems to exist but a consensus on a good weekend varies. 
 
A few minutes were also spent discussing the Christmas party but a date
and location were not yet decided. 
 
This very short meeting was officially ended at 7:20 pm; however we
spent another hour looking at maps and discussing gear preferences. 
 
Sincerely, 
Matthew Ormsby
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[PBSS] November Meeting

[Ormsby, Matthew A]

The November meeting of the PBSS was held on Tuesday the 13th. The
meeting began at 7:00 pm and was attended by:
 
Matthew Ormsby, Tristan Ormsby, Ben Fowler, Bill Bentley, Walter
Feaster, Rule Metcalf, Patrick Ray, Laura Liem and Luke and Kat (whose
last names I obviously don't know). 
 
A financial report was given by Walter. New memberships and bat stickers
brought the clubs total to 871.79. 
 
Bill gave a brief report on the TCR. Approximately 360 individuals
participated. 
 
Some time was spent speaking about the upcoming trip to the Deep and
Punkin Nature Preserve. Interested parties were given directions. This
trip is scheduled for Friday the 23rd and Saturday the 24th 5 miles from
Carta Valley Texas near Del Rio. Anyone interested in going that reads
this remailer should contact me by Wednesday the 21st. Information on
both caves can be found on the TCMA website. 
 
Interest was also gauged in participating in a December trip. The
interest seems to exist but a consensus on a good weekend varies. 
 
A few minutes were also spent discussing the Christmas party but a date
and location were not yet decided. 
 
This very short meeting was officially ended at 7:20 pm; however we
spent another hour looking at maps and discussing gear preferences. 
 
Sincerely, 
Matthew Ormsby
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[PBSS] November Meeting

[Ormsby, Matthew A]

The November meeting of the PBSS was held on Tuesday the 13th. The
meeting began at 7:00 pm and was attended by:
 
Matthew Ormsby, Tristan Ormsby, Ben Fowler, Bill Bentley, Walter
Feaster, Rule Metcalf, Patrick Ray, Laura Liem and Luke and Kat (whose
last names I obviously don't know). 
 
A financial report was given by Walter. New memberships and bat stickers
brought the clubs total to 871.79. 
 
Bill gave a brief report on the TCR. Approximately 360 individuals
participated. 
 
Some time was spent speaking about the upcoming trip to the Deep and
Punkin Nature Preserve. Interested parties were given directions. This
trip is scheduled for Friday the 23rd and Saturday the 24th 5 miles from
Carta Valley Texas near Del Rio. Anyone interested in going that reads
this remailer should contact me by Wednesday the 21st. Information on
both caves can be found on the TCMA website. 
 
Interest was also gauged in participating in a December trip. The
interest seems to exist but a consensus on a good weekend varies. 
 
A few minutes were also spent discussing the Christmas party but a date
and location were not yet decided. 
 
This very short meeting was officially ended at 7:20 pm; however we
spent another hour looking at maps and discussing gear preferences. 
 
Sincerely, 
Matthew Ormsby
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[PBSS] November Meeting

[Ormsby, Matthew A]

 
All,
The next meeting of the Permian Basin Speleological Society is Tuesday
November 13th, 2012 at 7:00 p.m. We are still at Murray's Delicatessen
in Midland, Texas. Murray's is located at 3211 West Wadley in Midland.
We meet in the back room. Come early & have dinner--we have the room
starting at 6:00

We hope to hear a report about the Texas Cave Reunion. We will discuss
the November 23rd and 24th trip to two TCMA caves in November and the
requirements to participate in the activity. Any and all are welcome!
For further information about the Permian Basin Speleological Society
contact: Matthew Ormsby ma_orm...@msn.com
mailto:ma_orm...@msn.com>  Jacqui Thomas jlrtho...@verizon.net
mailto:jlrtho...@verizon.net>  , Bill Bentley ca...@caver.net,
or Patrick Ray patrickray...@yahoo.com

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was chartered as the 300th grotto of the National Speleological Society
on January 18, 1984. The Permian Basin Speleological Society is an
affiliated grotto or Caving club with the Texas Speleological
Association and the Southwestern Region of the National Speleological
Society and supports the cave conservation ethics of the National
Speleological Society.
 
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[PBSS] November Meeting

[Ormsby, Matthew A]

 
All,
The next meeting of the Permian Basin Speleological Society is Tuesday
November 13th, 2012 at 7:00 p.m. We are still at Murray's Delicatessen
in Midland, Texas. Murray's is located at 3211 West Wadley in Midland.
We meet in the back room. Come early & have dinner--we have the room
starting at 6:00

We hope to hear a report about the Texas Cave Reunion. We will discuss
the November 23rd and 24th trip to two TCMA caves in November and the
requirements to participate in the activity. Any and all are welcome!
For further information about the Permian Basin Speleological Society
contact: Matthew Ormsby ma_orm...@msn.com
mailto:ma_orm...@msn.com>  Jacqui Thomas jlrtho...@verizon.net
mailto:jlrtho...@verizon.net>  , Bill Bentley ca...@caver.net,
or Patrick Ray patrickray...@yahoo.com

PBSS web page:
http://www.caver.net/pbss/pbss.html
http://www.caver.net/pbss/pbss.html> 
The Permian Basin Speleological Society was founded in October 1983 and
was chartered as the 300th grotto of the National Speleological Society
on January 18, 1984. The Permian Basin Speleological Society is an
affiliated grotto or Caving club with the Texas Speleological
Association and the Southwestern Region of the National Speleological
Society and supports the cave conservation ethics of the National
Speleological Society.
 
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[PBSS] November Meeting

[Ormsby, Matthew A]

 
All,
The next meeting of the Permian Basin Speleological Society is Tuesday
November 13th, 2012 at 7:00 p.m. We are still at Murray's Delicatessen
in Midland, Texas. Murray's is located at 3211 West Wadley in Midland.
We meet in the back room. Come early & have dinner--we have the room
starting at 6:00

We hope to hear a report about the Texas Cave Reunion. We will discuss
the November 23rd and 24th trip to two TCMA caves in November and the
requirements to participate in the activity. Any and all are welcome!
For further information about the Permian Basin Speleological Society
contact: Matthew Ormsby ma_orm...@msn.com
mailto:ma_orm...@msn.com>  Jacqui Thomas jlrtho...@verizon.net
mailto:jlrtho...@verizon.net>  , Bill Bentley ca...@caver.net,
or Patrick Ray patrickray...@yahoo.com

PBSS web page:
http://www.caver.net/pbss/pbss.html
http://www.caver.net/pbss/pbss.html> 
The Permian Basin Speleological Society was founded in October 1983 and
was chartered as the 300th grotto of the National Speleological Society
on January 18, 1984. The Permian Basin Speleological Society is an
affiliated grotto or Caving club with the Texas Speleological
Association and the Southwestern Region of the National Speleological
Society and supports the cave conservation ethics of the National
Speleological Society.
 
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[PBSS] October Meeting

[Ormsby, Matthew A]

Greetings All, 
 
The October 9th, 2012 meeting of the PBSS was held last evening. The
meeting began at 7:05pm and had a robust attendance. 
 
Matthew Ormsby, Walter Feaster, Bill Bentley, Tony Abernathy and Patrick
Ray were all in attendance as well as some new to me but old faces,
welcome back Ken Cameron and Steve Franks. Also in attendance were some
newbie's and semi newbie's: Aaron Corral, Erik Ulrestad and Luke and Kat
of already forgotten last names. As an aside I've made zero effort to
spell anyone's name correctly so if it's incorrectly please feel free to
let me know.  
 
A financial report of 837.37 was given by Walter which changed during
the evening by at least 4 new members and a sticker being sold. 
 
Bill gave a report of the grotto led trip to Amazing Maze for the PBOC.
A reported 21 people attended and apparently everyone had a good time.
It was said that at first it was like trying to "herd cats" but
eventually a few groups were formed, leaders assigned and at least 6
total hours were spent underground crawling around. Bill tested his new
gopro camera and after some difficulties says he recorded some pretty
good video. Perhaps he'll add it to our youtube page (if you want to let
me know and I'll get you the account and pw). 
 
I mentioned that I hadn't heard anything back about volunteers to repair
the gate at Ess Cave and Bill hadn't either so to our knowledge the cave
is still unsecured. Some strides were made with the google maps and
though a point specifying the location of Ess Cave still appears the GPS
coordinates have been removed. The point gets you in the ballpark but it
would take a lot of searching to find the cave from that start location
so everyone seems somewhat happier now. If anyone on the mailer has the
ability to repair the gate please let me know and we will set up a trip
to provide whatever assistance is necessary. 
 
I gave a report on a UT Grotto trip I went on with Alex to the Deep and
Punkin Nature Preserve in order to prepare for our PBSS trip this
upcoming November to the same place. I also read the letter from Don
about the upcoming TCR later this month and a letter from Ellie Watson
about the Chuck Steum Award. 
 
Finally the meeting was opened up for election nominations and all of
the same people currently serving in their positions were re-nominated
to again serve in those same positions. No new nominations were
suggested so each "incumbent" will be running unopposed. 
 
Patrick asked if it was too early to discuss the Christmas party and so
we talked about it for a few moments. I volunteered Patrick's place but
after learning he lived in a perhaps "less than safe neighborhood" I
retracted my willingness to have him host. It was said that everyone
enjoyed having it in someone's home like last year so if anyone would
like to host the Christmas party please send me an e-mail. It was also
suggested that we could check the availability of the Sibley Nature
Center.
 
The meeting was ended at 7:30 pm and following the meeting I showed some
of the new members the basic vertical gear required as well as offered
some other practical advise on where to get it. 
 
Have a great month, 
 
Matthew Ormsby
PBSS President
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[PBSS] October Meeting

[Ormsby, Matthew A]

Greetings All, 
 
The October 9th, 2012 meeting of the PBSS was held last evening. The
meeting began at 7:05pm and had a robust attendance. 
 
Matthew Ormsby, Walter Feaster, Bill Bentley, Tony Abernathy and Patrick
Ray were all in attendance as well as some new to me but old faces,
welcome back Ken Cameron and Steve Franks. Also in attendance were some
newbie's and semi newbie's: Aaron Corral, Erik Ulrestad and Luke and Kat
of already forgotten last names. As an aside I've made zero effort to
spell anyone's name correctly so if it's incorrectly please feel free to
let me know.  
 
A financial report of 837.37 was given by Walter which changed during
the evening by at least 4 new members and a sticker being sold. 
 
Bill gave a report of the grotto led trip to Amazing Maze for the PBOC.
A reported 21 people attended and apparently everyone had a good time.
It was said that at first it was like trying to "herd cats" but
eventually a few groups were formed, leaders assigned and at least 6
total hours were spent underground crawling around. Bill tested his new
gopro camera and after some difficulties says he recorded some pretty
good video. Perhaps he'll add it to our youtube page (if you want to let
me know and I'll get you the account and pw). 
 
I mentioned that I hadn't heard anything back about volunteers to repair
the gate at Ess Cave and Bill hadn't either so to our knowledge the cave
is still unsecured. Some strides were made with the google maps and
though a point specifying the location of Ess Cave still appears the GPS
coordinates have been removed. The point gets you in the ballpark but it
would take a lot of searching to find the cave from that start location
so everyone seems somewhat happier now. If anyone on the mailer has the
ability to repair the gate please let me know and we will set up a trip
to provide whatever assistance is necessary. 
 
I gave a report on a UT Grotto trip I went on with Alex to the Deep and
Punkin Nature Preserve in order to prepare for our PBSS trip this
upcoming November to the same place. I also read the letter from Don
about the upcoming TCR later this month and a letter from Ellie Watson
about the Chuck Steum Award. 
 
Finally the meeting was opened up for election nominations and all of
the same people currently serving in their positions were re-nominated
to again serve in those same positions. No new nominations were
suggested so each "incumbent" will be running unopposed. 
 
Patrick asked if it was too early to discuss the Christmas party and so
we talked about it for a few moments. I volunteered Patrick's place but
after learning he lived in a perhaps "less than safe neighborhood" I
retracted my willingness to have him host. It was said that everyone
enjoyed having it in someone's home like last year so if anyone would
like to host the Christmas party please send me an e-mail. It was also
suggested that we could check the availability of the Sibley Nature
Center.
 
The meeting was ended at 7:30 pm and following the meeting I showed some
of the new members the basic vertical gear required as well as offered
some other practical advise on where to get it. 
 
Have a great month, 
 
Matthew Ormsby
PBSS President
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[PBSS] October Meeting

[Ormsby, Matthew A]

Greetings All, 
 
The October 9th, 2012 meeting of the PBSS was held last evening. The
meeting began at 7:05pm and had a robust attendance. 
 
Matthew Ormsby, Walter Feaster, Bill Bentley, Tony Abernathy and Patrick
Ray were all in attendance as well as some new to me but old faces,
welcome back Ken Cameron and Steve Franks. Also in attendance were some
newbie's and semi newbie's: Aaron Corral, Erik Ulrestad and Luke and Kat
of already forgotten last names. As an aside I've made zero effort to
spell anyone's name correctly so if it's incorrectly please feel free to
let me know.  
 
A financial report of 837.37 was given by Walter which changed during
the evening by at least 4 new members and a sticker being sold. 
 
Bill gave a report of the grotto led trip to Amazing Maze for the PBOC.
A reported 21 people attended and apparently everyone had a good time.
It was said that at first it was like trying to "herd cats" but
eventually a few groups were formed, leaders assigned and at least 6
total hours were spent underground crawling around. Bill tested his new
gopro camera and after some difficulties says he recorded some pretty
good video. Perhaps he'll add it to our youtube page (if you want to let
me know and I'll get you the account and pw). 
 
I mentioned that I hadn't heard anything back about volunteers to repair
the gate at Ess Cave and Bill hadn't either so to our knowledge the cave
is still unsecured. Some strides were made with the google maps and
though a point specifying the location of Ess Cave still appears the GPS
coordinates have been removed. The point gets you in the ballpark but it
would take a lot of searching to find the cave from that start location
so everyone seems somewhat happier now. If anyone on the mailer has the
ability to repair the gate please let me know and we will set up a trip
to provide whatever assistance is necessary. 
 
I gave a report on a UT Grotto trip I went on with Alex to the Deep and
Punkin Nature Preserve in order to prepare for our PBSS trip this
upcoming November to the same place. I also read the letter from Don
about the upcoming TCR later this month and a letter from Ellie Watson
about the Chuck Steum Award. 
 
Finally the meeting was opened up for election nominations and all of
the same people currently serving in their positions were re-nominated
to again serve in those same positions. No new nominations were
suggested so each "incumbent" will be running unopposed. 
 
Patrick asked if it was too early to discuss the Christmas party and so
we talked about it for a few moments. I volunteered Patrick's place but
after learning he lived in a perhaps "less than safe neighborhood" I
retracted my willingness to have him host. It was said that everyone
enjoyed having it in someone's home like last year so if anyone would
like to host the Christmas party please send me an e-mail. It was also
suggested that we could check the availability of the Sibley Nature
Center.
 
The meeting was ended at 7:30 pm and following the meeting I showed some
of the new members the basic vertical gear required as well as offered
some other practical advise on where to get it. 
 
Have a great month, 
 
Matthew Ormsby
PBSS President
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[PBSS] October Meeting

[Ormsby, Matthew A]

All,
The next meeting of the Permian Basin Speleological Society is Tuesday
October 9th, 2012 at 7:00 p.m. We are still at Murray's Delicatessen in
Midland, Texas. Murray's is located at 3211 West Wadley in Midland. We
meet in the back room. Come early & have dinner--we have the room
starting at 6:00

We hope to hear a report about the grotto hosted trip to Amazing Maze
for the PBOC. The Texas Cave Reunion is later this month and the letter
sent from Don Auburn will be read. In conjunction with the TCR a letter
from Ellie Watson regarding the Chuck Stuehm Award will also be
presented. Officers will need to come to an agreement on it. We will
discuss an upcoming trip to two TCMA caves in November and the
requirements to participate in the activity. If memory serves me right
it is also time for officer elections to begin. Anyone that's been
around longer than me please chime in if this statement is incorrect or
if additional information needs to be added to it. 
Any and all are welcome! For further information about the Permian Basin
Speleological Society contact: Matthew Ormsby ma_orm...@msn.com
mailto:ma_orm...@msn.com>  Jacqui Thomas jlrtho...@verizon.net
mailto:jlrtho...@verizon.net>  , Bill Bentley ca...@caver.net,
or Patrick Ray patrickray...@yahoo.com

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http://www.caver.net/pbss/pbss.html> 
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was chartered as the 300th grotto of the National Speleological Society
on January 18, 1984. The Permian Basin Speleological Society is an
affiliated grotto or Caving club with the Texas Speleological
Association and the Southwestern Region of the National Speleological
Society and supports the cave conservation ethics of the National
Speleological Society.
 
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[PBSS] October Meeting

[Ormsby, Matthew A]

All,
The next meeting of the Permian Basin Speleological Society is Tuesday
October 9th, 2012 at 7:00 p.m. We are still at Murray's Delicatessen in
Midland, Texas. Murray's is located at 3211 West Wadley in Midland. We
meet in the back room. Come early & have dinner--we have the room
starting at 6:00

We hope to hear a report about the grotto hosted trip to Amazing Maze
for the PBOC. The Texas Cave Reunion is later this month and the letter
sent from Don Auburn will be read. In conjunction with the TCR a letter
from Ellie Watson regarding the Chuck Stuehm Award will also be
presented. Officers will need to come to an agreement on it. We will
discuss an upcoming trip to two TCMA caves in November and the
requirements to participate in the activity. If memory serves me right
it is also time for officer elections to begin. Anyone that's been
around longer than me please chime in if this statement is incorrect or
if additional information needs to be added to it. 
Any and all are welcome! For further information about the Permian Basin
Speleological Society contact: Matthew Ormsby ma_orm...@msn.com
mailto:ma_orm...@msn.com>  Jacqui Thomas jlrtho...@verizon.net
mailto:jlrtho...@verizon.net>  , Bill Bentley ca...@caver.net,
or Patrick Ray patrickray...@yahoo.com

PBSS web page:
http://www.caver.net/pbss/pbss.html
http://www.caver.net/pbss/pbss.html> 
The Permian Basin Speleological Society was founded in October 1983 and
was chartered as the 300th grotto of the National Speleological Society
on January 18, 1984. The Permian Basin Speleological Society is an
affiliated grotto or Caving club with the Texas Speleological
Association and the Southwestern Region of the National Speleological
Society and supports the cave conservation ethics of the National
Speleological Society.
 
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[PBSS] October Meeting

[Ormsby, Matthew A]

All,
The next meeting of the Permian Basin Speleological Society is Tuesday
October 9th, 2012 at 7:00 p.m. We are still at Murray's Delicatessen in
Midland, Texas. Murray's is located at 3211 West Wadley in Midland. We
meet in the back room. Come early & have dinner--we have the room
starting at 6:00

We hope to hear a report about the grotto hosted trip to Amazing Maze
for the PBOC. The Texas Cave Reunion is later this month and the letter
sent from Don Auburn will be read. In conjunction with the TCR a letter
from Ellie Watson regarding the Chuck Stuehm Award will also be
presented. Officers will need to come to an agreement on it. We will
discuss an upcoming trip to two TCMA caves in November and the
requirements to participate in the activity. If memory serves me right
it is also time for officer elections to begin. Anyone that's been
around longer than me please chime in if this statement is incorrect or
if additional information needs to be added to it. 
Any and all are welcome! For further information about the Permian Basin
Speleological Society contact: Matthew Ormsby ma_orm...@msn.com
mailto:ma_orm...@msn.com>  Jacqui Thomas jlrtho...@verizon.net
mailto:jlrtho...@verizon.net>  , Bill Bentley ca...@caver.net,
or Patrick Ray patrickray...@yahoo.com

PBSS web page:
http://www.caver.net/pbss/pbss.html
http://www.caver.net/pbss/pbss.html> 
The Permian Basin Speleological Society was founded in October 1983 and
was chartered as the 300th grotto of the National Speleological Society
on January 18, 1984. The Permian Basin Speleological Society is an
affiliated grotto or Caving club with the Texas Speleological
Association and the Southwestern Region of the National Speleological
Society and supports the cave conservation ethics of the National
Speleological Society.
 
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[PBSS] September Meeting Notes

[Ormsby, Matthew A]

The September Meeting of the PBSS began at 7:00pm with Bill Bentley,
Tony Abernathy and Matthew Ormsby in attendance. We were later joined by
Kerry Lowery, Patrick Ray and two of his friends Erik Ulrestad and Laura
Liem. 
 
A financial Report was not given because Walter was not in attendance
but last months report was 800.79 and there have been no expenses since
then.
 
Bill gave a report about the upcoming Amazing Maze trip for the Permian
Basin Outdoor Club led by the PBSS. Emphasis was added regarding TCMA
membership requirements. The PBOC meets next Tuesday and the trip will
be on September 22. Any interested PBSS member are invited and
encouraged to attend, please make sure your TCMA membership is up to
date. If you need directions please e-mail me.
 
I gave a brief report about a trip to Ess Cave this past Saturday. Bill
recommended I mention in this remailer that the gate has been
compromised and needs to be repaired. Barry and Mike have been
recommended for the job. Currently, the cave can be accessed by anyone
who knows its location. Thanks to Google anyone that searches Ess Cave
can find it. Bill is going to send Google a request that the location be
removed from its map but doubts anything will come of it. 
 
The TCMA reunion will be on October 20-21 at Paradise Canyon. I am
tentatively looking at getting permits to park caves on October 27th. I
also hope to get permits to the TCMA preserve in November after
Thanksgiving.
 
The meeting was officially closed at 7:25 because of a commitment I had
in Odessa at 8:00 but most everyone else stayed and ate and probably
talked about caves.
 
Matthew
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[PBSS] September Meeting Notes

[Ormsby, Matthew A]

The September Meeting of the PBSS began at 7:00pm with Bill Bentley,
Tony Abernathy and Matthew Ormsby in attendance. We were later joined by
Kerry Lowery, Patrick Ray and two of his friends Erik Ulrestad and Laura
Liem. 
 
A financial Report was not given because Walter was not in attendance
but last months report was 800.79 and there have been no expenses since
then.
 
Bill gave a report about the upcoming Amazing Maze trip for the Permian
Basin Outdoor Club led by the PBSS. Emphasis was added regarding TCMA
membership requirements. The PBOC meets next Tuesday and the trip will
be on September 22. Any interested PBSS member are invited and
encouraged to attend, please make sure your TCMA membership is up to
date. If you need directions please e-mail me.
 
I gave a brief report about a trip to Ess Cave this past Saturday. Bill
recommended I mention in this remailer that the gate has been
compromised and needs to be repaired. Barry and Mike have been
recommended for the job. Currently, the cave can be accessed by anyone
who knows its location. Thanks to Google anyone that searches Ess Cave
can find it. Bill is going to send Google a request that the location be
removed from its map but doubts anything will come of it. 
 
The TCMA reunion will be on October 20-21 at Paradise Canyon. I am
tentatively looking at getting permits to park caves on October 27th. I
also hope to get permits to the TCMA preserve in November after
Thanksgiving.
 
The meeting was officially closed at 7:25 because of a commitment I had
in Odessa at 8:00 but most everyone else stayed and ate and probably
talked about caves.
 
Matthew
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[PBSS] September Meeting Notes

[Ormsby, Matthew A]

The September Meeting of the PBSS began at 7:00pm with Bill Bentley,
Tony Abernathy and Matthew Ormsby in attendance. We were later joined by
Kerry Lowery, Patrick Ray and two of his friends Erik Ulrestad and Laura
Liem. 
 
A financial Report was not given because Walter was not in attendance
but last months report was 800.79 and there have been no expenses since
then.
 
Bill gave a report about the upcoming Amazing Maze trip for the Permian
Basin Outdoor Club led by the PBSS. Emphasis was added regarding TCMA
membership requirements. The PBOC meets next Tuesday and the trip will
be on September 22. Any interested PBSS member are invited and
encouraged to attend, please make sure your TCMA membership is up to
date. If you need directions please e-mail me.
 
I gave a brief report about a trip to Ess Cave this past Saturday. Bill
recommended I mention in this remailer that the gate has been
compromised and needs to be repaired. Barry and Mike have been
recommended for the job. Currently, the cave can be accessed by anyone
who knows its location. Thanks to Google anyone that searches Ess Cave
can find it. Bill is going to send Google a request that the location be
removed from its map but doubts anything will come of it. 
 
The TCMA reunion will be on October 20-21 at Paradise Canyon. I am
tentatively looking at getting permits to park caves on October 27th. I
also hope to get permits to the TCMA preserve in November after
Thanksgiving.
 
The meeting was officially closed at 7:25 because of a commitment I had
in Odessa at 8:00 but most everyone else stayed and ate and probably
talked about caves.
 
Matthew
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Re: [SWR] [PBSS] September Meeting

[Ormsby, Matthew A]

Correction, the meeting is today, Tuesday September 11th at 7:00pm.
There was a meeting in August as well. It went as well as meetings go. 



From: pbss-boun...@caver.net [mailto:pbss-boun...@caver.net] On Behalf
Of Ormsby, Matthew A
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 9:07 AM
To: p...@caver.net; s...@caver.net
Subject: [PBSS] September Meeting


All,
The next meeting of the Permian Basin Speleological Society is Tuesday
August 14th, 2012 at 7:00 p.m. We are still at Murray's Delicatessen in
Midland, Texas. Murray's is is located at 3211 West Wadley in Midland.
We meet in the back room. Come early & have dinner--we have the room
starting at 6:00

We will discuss an upcoming trip to Amazing Maze Cave organized for the
PBOC. I will speak about a trip made to Ess Cave this past Saturday as
well as measures we need to take as a society to re-secure the entrance.
I hope to also set a date for a trip in October to Park Caves and
November to TCMA Caves. 
 
Any and all are welcome! For further information about the Permian Basin
Speleological Society contact: Matthew Ormsby ma_orm...@msn.com
mailto:ma_orm...@msn.com>  Jacqui Thomas jlrtho...@verizon.net
mailto:jlrtho...@verizon.net>  , Bill Bentley ca...@caver.net,
or Patrick Ray patrickray...@yahoo.com

PBSS web page:
http://www.caver.net/pbss/pbss.html
http://www.caver.net/pbss/pbss.html> 
The Permian Basin Speleological Society was founded in October 1983 and
was chartered as the 300th grotto of the National Speleological Society
on January 18, 1984. The Permian Basin Speleological Society is an
affiliated grotto or Caving club with the Texas Speleological
Association and the Southwestern Region of the National Speleological
Society and supports the cave conservation ethics of the National
Speleological Society.
 
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Re: [SWR] [PBSS] September Meeting

[Ormsby, Matthew A]

Correction, the meeting is today, Tuesday September 11th at 7:00pm.
There was a meeting in August as well. It went as well as meetings go. 



From: pbss-boun...@caver.net [mailto:pbss-boun...@caver.net] On Behalf
Of Ormsby, Matthew A
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 9:07 AM
To: p...@caver.net; s...@caver.net
Subject: [PBSS] September Meeting


All,
The next meeting of the Permian Basin Speleological Society is Tuesday
August 14th, 2012 at 7:00 p.m. We are still at Murray's Delicatessen in
Midland, Texas. Murray's is is located at 3211 West Wadley in Midland.
We meet in the back room. Come early & have dinner--we have the room
starting at 6:00

We will discuss an upcoming trip to Amazing Maze Cave organized for the
PBOC. I will speak about a trip made to Ess Cave this past Saturday as
well as measures we need to take as a society to re-secure the entrance.
I hope to also set a date for a trip in October to Park Caves and
November to TCMA Caves. 
 
Any and all are welcome! For further information about the Permian Basin
Speleological Society contact: Matthew Ormsby ma_orm...@msn.com
mailto:ma_orm...@msn.com>  Jacqui Thomas jlrtho...@verizon.net
mailto:jlrtho...@verizon.net>  , Bill Bentley ca...@caver.net,
or Patrick Ray patrickray...@yahoo.com

PBSS web page:
http://www.caver.net/pbss/pbss.html
http://www.caver.net/pbss/pbss.html> 
The Permian Basin Speleological Society was founded in October 1983 and
was chartered as the 300th grotto of the National Speleological Society
on January 18, 1984. The Permian Basin Speleological Society is an
affiliated grotto or Caving club with the Texas Speleological
Association and the Southwestern Region of the National Speleological
Society and supports the cave conservation ethics of the National
Speleological Society.
 
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Re: [SWR] [PBSS] September Meeting

[Ormsby, Matthew A]

Correction, the meeting is today, Tuesday September 11th at 7:00pm.
There was a meeting in August as well. It went as well as meetings go. 



From: pbss-boun...@caver.net [mailto:pbss-boun...@caver.net] On Behalf
Of Ormsby, Matthew A
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 9:07 AM
To: p...@caver.net; s...@caver.net
Subject: [PBSS] September Meeting


All,
The next meeting of the Permian Basin Speleological Society is Tuesday
August 14th, 2012 at 7:00 p.m. We are still at Murray's Delicatessen in
Midland, Texas. Murray's is is located at 3211 West Wadley in Midland.
We meet in the back room. Come early & have dinner--we have the room
starting at 6:00

We will discuss an upcoming trip to Amazing Maze Cave organized for the
PBOC. I will speak about a trip made to Ess Cave this past Saturday as
well as measures we need to take as a society to re-secure the entrance.
I hope to also set a date for a trip in October to Park Caves and
November to TCMA Caves. 
 
Any and all are welcome! For further information about the Permian Basin
Speleological Society contact: Matthew Ormsby ma_orm...@msn.com
mailto:ma_orm...@msn.com>  Jacqui Thomas jlrtho...@verizon.net
mailto:jlrtho...@verizon.net>  , Bill Bentley ca...@caver.net,
or Patrick Ray patrickray...@yahoo.com

PBSS web page:
http://www.caver.net/pbss/pbss.html
http://www.caver.net/pbss/pbss.html> 
The Permian Basin Speleological Society was founded in October 1983 and
was chartered as the 300th grotto of the National Speleological Society
on January 18, 1984. The Permian Basin Speleological Society is an
affiliated grotto or Caving club with the Texas Speleological
Association and the Southwestern Region of the National Speleological
Society and supports the cave conservation ethics of the National
Speleological Society.
 
PBSS mailing list
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http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/pbss_caver.net


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[PBSS] September Meeting

[Ormsby, Matthew A]

All,
The next meeting of the Permian Basin Speleological Society is Tuesday
August 14th, 2012 at 7:00 p.m. We are still at Murray's Delicatessen in
Midland, Texas. Murray's is is located at 3211 West Wadley in Midland.
We meet in the back room. Come early & have dinner--we have the room
starting at 6:00

We will discuss an upcoming trip to Amazing Maze Cave organized for the
PBOC. I will speak about a trip made to Ess Cave this past Saturday as
well as measures we need to take as a society to re-secure the entrance.
I hope to also set a date for a trip in October to Park Caves and
November to TCMA Caves. 
 
Any and all are welcome! For further information about the Permian Basin
Speleological Society contact: Matthew Ormsby ma_orm...@msn.com
mailto:ma_orm...@msn.com>  Jacqui Thomas jlrtho...@verizon.net
mailto:jlrtho...@verizon.net>  , Bill Bentley ca...@caver.net,
or Patrick Ray patrickray...@yahoo.com

PBSS web page:
http://www.caver.net/pbss/pbss.html
http://www.caver.net/pbss/pbss.html> 
The Permian Basin Speleological Society was founded in October 1983 and
was chartered as the 300th grotto of the National Speleological Society
on January 18, 1984. The Permian Basin Speleological Society is an
affiliated grotto or Caving club with the Texas Speleological
Association and the Southwestern Region of the National Speleological
Society and supports the cave conservation ethics of the National
Speleological Society.
 
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[PBSS] September Meeting

[Ormsby, Matthew A]

All,
The next meeting of the Permian Basin Speleological Society is Tuesday
August 14th, 2012 at 7:00 p.m. We are still at Murray's Delicatessen in
Midland, Texas. Murray's is is located at 3211 West Wadley in Midland.
We meet in the back room. Come early & have dinner--we have the room
starting at 6:00

We will discuss an upcoming trip to Amazing Maze Cave organized for the
PBOC. I will speak about a trip made to Ess Cave this past Saturday as
well as measures we need to take as a society to re-secure the entrance.
I hope to also set a date for a trip in October to Park Caves and
November to TCMA Caves. 
 
Any and all are welcome! For further information about the Permian Basin
Speleological Society contact: Matthew Ormsby ma_orm...@msn.com
mailto:ma_orm...@msn.com>  Jacqui Thomas jlrtho...@verizon.net
mailto:jlrtho...@verizon.net>  , Bill Bentley ca...@caver.net,
or Patrick Ray patrickray...@yahoo.com

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was chartered as the 300th grotto of the National Speleological Society
on January 18, 1984. The Permian Basin Speleological Society is an
affiliated grotto or Caving club with the Texas Speleological
Association and the Southwestern Region of the National Speleological
Society and supports the cave conservation ethics of the National
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[PBSS] September Meeting

[Ormsby, Matthew A]

All,
The next meeting of the Permian Basin Speleological Society is Tuesday
August 14th, 2012 at 7:00 p.m. We are still at Murray's Delicatessen in
Midland, Texas. Murray's is is located at 3211 West Wadley in Midland.
We meet in the back room. Come early & have dinner--we have the room
starting at 6:00

We will discuss an upcoming trip to Amazing Maze Cave organized for the
PBOC. I will speak about a trip made to Ess Cave this past Saturday as
well as measures we need to take as a society to re-secure the entrance.
I hope to also set a date for a trip in October to Park Caves and
November to TCMA Caves. 
 
Any and all are welcome! For further information about the Permian Basin
Speleological Society contact: Matthew Ormsby ma_orm...@msn.com
mailto:ma_orm...@msn.com>  Jacqui Thomas jlrtho...@verizon.net
mailto:jlrtho...@verizon.net>  , Bill Bentley ca...@caver.net,
or Patrick Ray patrickray...@yahoo.com

PBSS web page:
http://www.caver.net/pbss/pbss.html
http://www.caver.net/pbss/pbss.html> 
The Permian Basin Speleological Society was founded in October 1983 and
was chartered as the 300th grotto of the National Speleological Society
on January 18, 1984. The Permian Basin Speleological Society is an
affiliated grotto or Caving club with the Texas Speleological
Association and the Southwestern Region of the National Speleological
Society and supports the cave conservation ethics of the National
Speleological Society.
 
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[SWR] August Meeting Notes

[Ormsby, Matthew A]

Meeting Notes August 14th, 2012
 
The August Meeting of the PBSS open at 7:02pm, 10 minutes after a
opinionated and probably near sighted individual commented to Tony and I
about the size of the table we were occupying. He obviously missed the
sign that indicated the table was reserved for the club and probably
didn't know the meeting was not yet at hand. I guess sometimes people
speak and don't think, or speak after thinking... only their thoughts
are a little on the short side of intelligent. Anyway. The table did in
fact fill up with Walter, Bill, Tony, Patrick and Matthew all in
attendance. 
 
Walter gave a financial report. Currently $800.79 resides in the clubs
account.
 
Bill addressed an upcoming PBOC trip to Amazing Maze. The trip will be
on September 22nd and Bill and Jacqui and anyone else I presume that
wants to will lead a group of people from the outdoor club to and
through parts of Amazing Maze. 
 
Matthew gave a report on the recent trip to Wen Cave and Christmas Tree
Cave in CCNP. Bill gave some history on the caves and recent pictures
from the trip were shown on a laptop. Trips to Chimney and Helen's Cave
were discussed and will be planned in the not to distant future. Patrick
commented a recent job change should allow him to make more caving
trips.
 
Bill gave a report on the National Convention. He gave more of a report
on the storm than the actual convention but lamented that those earning
awards were not appropriately recognized because the distraction that
the storm presented.
 
A large portion of the meeting was spent discussing access to a large
cave in West Texas. Prior to the meeting much time had been spent trying
to figure out if the PBSS might establish a relationship with the West
Texas land owner. At meeting time we were hopeful to get into the cave.
Since meeting time we have learned that relationships with the landowner
are very dynamic and access will be tricky. 
 
The meeting closed at 7:41.
 
Matthew Ormsby
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[SWR] August Meeting Notes

[Ormsby, Matthew A]

Meeting Notes August 14th, 2012
 
The August Meeting of the PBSS open at 7:02pm, 10 minutes after a
opinionated and probably near sighted individual commented to Tony and I
about the size of the table we were occupying. He obviously missed the
sign that indicated the table was reserved for the club and probably
didn't know the meeting was not yet at hand. I guess sometimes people
speak and don't think, or speak after thinking... only their thoughts
are a little on the short side of intelligent. Anyway. The table did in
fact fill up with Walter, Bill, Tony, Patrick and Matthew all in
attendance. 
 
Walter gave a financial report. Currently $800.79 resides in the clubs
account.
 
Bill addressed an upcoming PBOC trip to Amazing Maze. The trip will be
on September 22nd and Bill and Jacqui and anyone else I presume that
wants to will lead a group of people from the outdoor club to and
through parts of Amazing Maze. 
 
Matthew gave a report on the recent trip to Wen Cave and Christmas Tree
Cave in CCNP. Bill gave some history on the caves and recent pictures
from the trip were shown on a laptop. Trips to Chimney and Helen's Cave
were discussed and will be planned in the not to distant future. Patrick
commented a recent job change should allow him to make more caving
trips.
 
Bill gave a report on the National Convention. He gave more of a report
on the storm than the actual convention but lamented that those earning
awards were not appropriately recognized because the distraction that
the storm presented.
 
A large portion of the meeting was spent discussing access to a large
cave in West Texas. Prior to the meeting much time had been spent trying
to figure out if the PBSS might establish a relationship with the West
Texas land owner. At meeting time we were hopeful to get into the cave.
Since meeting time we have learned that relationships with the landowner
are very dynamic and access will be tricky. 
 
The meeting closed at 7:41.
 
Matthew Ormsby
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[SWR] August Meeting Notes

[Ormsby, Matthew A]

Meeting Notes August 14th, 2012
 
The August Meeting of the PBSS open at 7:02pm, 10 minutes after a
opinionated and probably near sighted individual commented to Tony and I
about the size of the table we were occupying. He obviously missed the
sign that indicated the table was reserved for the club and probably
didn't know the meeting was not yet at hand. I guess sometimes people
speak and don't think, or speak after thinking... only their thoughts
are a little on the short side of intelligent. Anyway. The table did in
fact fill up with Walter, Bill, Tony, Patrick and Matthew all in
attendance. 
 
Walter gave a financial report. Currently $800.79 resides in the clubs
account.
 
Bill addressed an upcoming PBOC trip to Amazing Maze. The trip will be
on September 22nd and Bill and Jacqui and anyone else I presume that
wants to will lead a group of people from the outdoor club to and
through parts of Amazing Maze. 
 
Matthew gave a report on the recent trip to Wen Cave and Christmas Tree
Cave in CCNP. Bill gave some history on the caves and recent pictures
from the trip were shown on a laptop. Trips to Chimney and Helen's Cave
were discussed and will be planned in the not to distant future. Patrick
commented a recent job change should allow him to make more caving
trips.
 
Bill gave a report on the National Convention. He gave more of a report
on the storm than the actual convention but lamented that those earning
awards were not appropriately recognized because the distraction that
the storm presented.
 
A large portion of the meeting was spent discussing access to a large
cave in West Texas. Prior to the meeting much time had been spent trying
to figure out if the PBSS might establish a relationship with the West
Texas land owner. At meeting time we were hopeful to get into the cave.
Since meeting time we have learned that relationships with the landowner
are very dynamic and access will be tricky. 
 
The meeting closed at 7:41.
 
Matthew Ormsby
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[SWR] August Meeting

[Ormsby, Matthew A]

All,
The next meeting of the Permian Basin Speleological Society is Tuesday
August 14th, 2012 at 7:00 p.m. We are still at Murray's Delicatessen in
Midland, Texas. Murray's is is located at 3211 West Wadley in Midland.
We meet in the back room. Come early & have dinner--we have the room
starting at 6:00

We will discuss the recent trip to Wen Cave and Christmas Tree Cave in
Carlsbad Caverns National Park. We would also like to get some more
trips on the schedule so if you like caving, come to the meeting so the
trip will be scheduled when you're available. 
 
Any and all are welcome! For further information about the Permian Basin
Speleological Society contact: Matthew Ormsby ma_orm...@msn.com
mailto:ma_orm...@msn.com>  Jacqui Thomas jlrtho...@verizon.net
mailto:jlrtho...@verizon.net>  , Bill Bentley ca...@caver.net,
or Patrick Ray patrickray...@yahoo.com

PBSS web page:
http://www.caver.net/pbss/pbss.html
http://www.caver.net/pbss/pbss.html> 
The Permian Basin Speleological Society was founded in October 1983 and
was chartered as the 300th grotto of the National Speleological Society
on January 18, 1984. The Permian Basin Speleological Society is an
affiliated grotto or Caving club with the Texas Speleological
Association and the Southwestern Region of the National Speleological
Society and supports the cave conservation ethics of the National
Speleological Society.
 
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[SWR] August Meeting

[Ormsby, Matthew A]

All,
The next meeting of the Permian Basin Speleological Society is Tuesday
August 14th, 2012 at 7:00 p.m. We are still at Murray's Delicatessen in
Midland, Texas. Murray's is is located at 3211 West Wadley in Midland.
We meet in the back room. Come early & have dinner--we have the room
starting at 6:00

We will discuss the recent trip to Wen Cave and Christmas Tree Cave in
Carlsbad Caverns National Park. We would also like to get some more
trips on the schedule so if you like caving, come to the meeting so the
trip will be scheduled when you're available. 
 
Any and all are welcome! For further information about the Permian Basin
Speleological Society contact: Matthew Ormsby ma_orm...@msn.com
mailto:ma_orm...@msn.com>  Jacqui Thomas jlrtho...@verizon.net
mailto:jlrtho...@verizon.net>  , Bill Bentley ca...@caver.net,
or Patrick Ray patrickray...@yahoo.com

PBSS web page:
http://www.caver.net/pbss/pbss.html
http://www.caver.net/pbss/pbss.html> 
The Permian Basin Speleological Society was founded in October 1983 and
was chartered as the 300th grotto of the National Speleological Society
on January 18, 1984. The Permian Basin Speleological Society is an
affiliated grotto or Caving club with the Texas Speleological
Association and the Southwestern Region of the National Speleological
Society and supports the cave conservation ethics of the National
Speleological Society.
 
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[SWR] August Meeting

[Ormsby, Matthew A]

All,
The next meeting of the Permian Basin Speleological Society is Tuesday
August 14th, 2012 at 7:00 p.m. We are still at Murray's Delicatessen in
Midland, Texas. Murray's is is located at 3211 West Wadley in Midland.
We meet in the back room. Come early & have dinner--we have the room
starting at 6:00

We will discuss the recent trip to Wen Cave and Christmas Tree Cave in
Carlsbad Caverns National Park. We would also like to get some more
trips on the schedule so if you like caving, come to the meeting so the
trip will be scheduled when you're available. 
 
Any and all are welcome! For further information about the Permian Basin
Speleological Society contact: Matthew Ormsby ma_orm...@msn.com
mailto:ma_orm...@msn.com>  Jacqui Thomas jlrtho...@verizon.net
mailto:jlrtho...@verizon.net>  , Bill Bentley ca...@caver.net,
or Patrick Ray patrickray...@yahoo.com

PBSS web page:
http://www.caver.net/pbss/pbss.html
http://www.caver.net/pbss/pbss.html> 
The Permian Basin Speleological Society was founded in October 1983 and
was chartered as the 300th grotto of the National Speleological Society
on January 18, 1984. The Permian Basin Speleological Society is an
affiliated grotto or Caving club with the Texas Speleological
Association and the Southwestern Region of the National Speleological
Society and supports the cave conservation ethics of the National
Speleological Society.
 
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[PBSS] PBSS July Meeting

[Ormsby, Matthew A]

All,
The next meeting of the Permian Basin Speleological Society is Tuesday
July10th, 2012 at 7:00 p.m. We are still at Murray's Delicatessen in
Midland, Texas. Murray's is is located at 3211 West Wadley in Midland.
We meet in the back room. Come early & have dinner--we have the room
starting at 6:00


We'll hear some reports from the National Convention and maybe see a few
photos as well. Upcoming trips to CCNP caves will be discussed. We also
hope to plan trips in August and September.
 
Any and all are welcome! For further information about the Permian Basin
Speleological Society contact: Matthew Ormsby ma_orm...@msn.com Jacqui
Thomas jlrtho...@verizon.net , Bill Bentley ca...@caver.net, or Patrick
Ray patrickray...@yahoo.com

PBSS web page:
http://www.caver.net/pbss/pbss.html
The Permian Basin Speleological Society was founded in October 1983 and
was chartered as the 300th grotto of the National Speleological Society
on January 18, 1984. The Permian Basin Speleological Society is an
affiliated grotto or Caving club with the Texas Speleological
Association and the Southwestern Region of the National Speleological
Society and supports the cave conservation ethics of the National
Speleological Society.
 
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[PBSS] PBSS July Meeting

[Ormsby, Matthew A]

All,
The next meeting of the Permian Basin Speleological Society is Tuesday
July10th, 2012 at 7:00 p.m. We are still at Murray's Delicatessen in
Midland, Texas. Murray's is is located at 3211 West Wadley in Midland.
We meet in the back room. Come early & have dinner--we have the room
starting at 6:00


We'll hear some reports from the National Convention and maybe see a few
photos as well. Upcoming trips to CCNP caves will be discussed. We also
hope to plan trips in August and September.
 
Any and all are welcome! For further information about the Permian Basin
Speleological Society contact: Matthew Ormsby ma_orm...@msn.com Jacqui
Thomas jlrtho...@verizon.net , Bill Bentley ca...@caver.net, or Patrick
Ray patrickray...@yahoo.com

PBSS web page:
http://www.caver.net/pbss/pbss.html
The Permian Basin Speleological Society was founded in October 1983 and
was chartered as the 300th grotto of the National Speleological Society
on January 18, 1984. The Permian Basin Speleological Society is an
affiliated grotto or Caving club with the Texas Speleological
Association and the Southwestern Region of the National Speleological
Society and supports the cave conservation ethics of the National
Speleological Society.
 
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[PBSS] PBSS July Meeting

[Ormsby, Matthew A]

All,
The next meeting of the Permian Basin Speleological Society is Tuesday
July10th, 2012 at 7:00 p.m. We are still at Murray's Delicatessen in
Midland, Texas. Murray's is is located at 3211 West Wadley in Midland.
We meet in the back room. Come early & have dinner--we have the room
starting at 6:00


We'll hear some reports from the National Convention and maybe see a few
photos as well. Upcoming trips to CCNP caves will be discussed. We also
hope to plan trips in August and September.
 
Any and all are welcome! For further information about the Permian Basin
Speleological Society contact: Matthew Ormsby ma_orm...@msn.com Jacqui
Thomas jlrtho...@verizon.net , Bill Bentley ca...@caver.net, or Patrick
Ray patrickray...@yahoo.com

PBSS web page:
http://www.caver.net/pbss/pbss.html
The Permian Basin Speleological Society was founded in October 1983 and
was chartered as the 300th grotto of the National Speleological Society
on January 18, 1984. The Permian Basin Speleological Society is an
affiliated grotto or Caving club with the Texas Speleological
Association and the Southwestern Region of the National Speleological
Society and supports the cave conservation ethics of the National
Speleological Society.
 
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[PBSS] May Meeting

[Ormsby, Matthew A]

All,
The next meeting of the Permian Basin Speleological Society is Tuesday
May 8th, 2012 at 7:00 p.m. We are still at Murray's Delicatessen in
Midland, Texas. Murray's is is located at 3211 West Wadley in Midland.
We meet in the back room. Come early & have dinner--we have the room
starting at 6:00

We're hoping to hear some potential dates for an Abyss trip. Information
will be provided regarding the upcoming 50th SWR anniversary and other
Texas caving opportunities.
 
Sorry for the late notice, Patrick will be running the show tonight. 
 
Any and all are welcome! For further information about the Permian Basin
Speleological Society contact: Matthew Ormsby ma_orm...@msn.com Jacqui
Thomas jlrtho...@verizon.net , Bill Bentley ca...@caver.net, or Patrick
Ray patrickray...@yahoo.com

PBSS web page:
http://www.caver.net/pbss/pbss.html
The Permian Basin Speleological Society was founded in October 1983 and
was chartered as the 300th grotto of the National Speleological Society
on January 18, 1984. The Permian Basin Speleological Society is an
affiliated grotto or Caving club with the Texas Speleological
Association and the Southwestern Region of the National Speleological
Society and supports the cave conservation ethics of the National
Speleological Society.
 
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[PBSS] May Meeting

[Ormsby, Matthew A]

All,
The next meeting of the Permian Basin Speleological Society is Tuesday
May 8th, 2012 at 7:00 p.m. We are still at Murray's Delicatessen in
Midland, Texas. Murray's is is located at 3211 West Wadley in Midland.
We meet in the back room. Come early & have dinner--we have the room
starting at 6:00

We're hoping to hear some potential dates for an Abyss trip. Information
will be provided regarding the upcoming 50th SWR anniversary and other
Texas caving opportunities.
 
Sorry for the late notice, Patrick will be running the show tonight. 
 
Any and all are welcome! For further information about the Permian Basin
Speleological Society contact: Matthew Ormsby ma_orm...@msn.com Jacqui
Thomas jlrtho...@verizon.net , Bill Bentley ca...@caver.net, or Patrick
Ray patrickray...@yahoo.com

PBSS web page:
http://www.caver.net/pbss/pbss.html
The Permian Basin Speleological Society was founded in October 1983 and
was chartered as the 300th grotto of the National Speleological Society
on January 18, 1984. The Permian Basin Speleological Society is an
affiliated grotto or Caving club with the Texas Speleological
Association and the Southwestern Region of the National Speleological
Society and supports the cave conservation ethics of the National
Speleological Society.
 
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[PBSS] May Meeting

[Ormsby, Matthew A]

All,
The next meeting of the Permian Basin Speleological Society is Tuesday
May 8th, 2012 at 7:00 p.m. We are still at Murray's Delicatessen in
Midland, Texas. Murray's is is located at 3211 West Wadley in Midland.
We meet in the back room. Come early & have dinner--we have the room
starting at 6:00

We're hoping to hear some potential dates for an Abyss trip. Information
will be provided regarding the upcoming 50th SWR anniversary and other
Texas caving opportunities.
 
Sorry for the late notice, Patrick will be running the show tonight. 
 
Any and all are welcome! For further information about the Permian Basin
Speleological Society contact: Matthew Ormsby ma_orm...@msn.com Jacqui
Thomas jlrtho...@verizon.net , Bill Bentley ca...@caver.net, or Patrick
Ray patrickray...@yahoo.com

PBSS web page:
http://www.caver.net/pbss/pbss.html
The Permian Basin Speleological Society was founded in October 1983 and
was chartered as the 300th grotto of the National Speleological Society
on January 18, 1984. The Permian Basin Speleological Society is an
affiliated grotto or Caving club with the Texas Speleological
Association and the Southwestern Region of the National Speleological
Society and supports the cave conservation ethics of the National
Speleological Society.
 
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[PBSS] April Meeting

[Ormsby, Matthew A]

April 10th, 2012 Meeting of the PBSS
 
Attendees:  Tony Abernathy, Walter Feaster, Matthew Ormsby, Alex Ormsby
and Patrick Ray
 
Financial Report: 781.79
 
Welcome back Walter. We continued the conversation about the need to add
Walter to the PBSS bank account so that he could do his treasurering
accurately. Given the banks hours Walter would only be able to meet
someone to be added to the account during his lunch hour, from 11:30 to
12:30. We discussed him possibly meeting Bill around 12:00 sometimes
before the end of April. Bill will be out of town the remainder of the
week so the soonest date this could be done would be April 16th. I said
I'd call Bill and let him know what we were shooting for to see if we
could make it happen this time. 
 
Walter gave an account of his current illness. He spent two weeks in the
hospital in San Antonio but is back in Midland now. His condition is
thrombotic thrombocytopenic purpura. We broke down the words to try and
understand the condition but I was unfamiliar with the word purpura
(I've since learned it means purple). 
Essentially, Walter is having unusual clotting in his small blood
vessels which leads to a deficiency of platelets (your clotting cells)
in the blood stream. As a result bleeding can occur under the skin,
which looks like bruising, which is purple. Mystery solved.
Unfortunately his kidney is not functioning normally. His quote was,
"Two weeks in the hospital, kidney quit, back on dialysis, it sucks."
 
We discussed the possibility of a return trip to Blue Quail on either
May 5th or 12th. Walter said he was probably free both weekends but
Patrick, Alex and myself all have prior commitments. Tony said his wife
will be having surgery soon so he also would probably not be able to
make the trip. 
 
We also began to talk about the SWR but it doesn't look like anyone is
going of the attendees so we undiscussed it. I mentioned that we were
still waiting to hear back on a date for Abyss but we were shooting for
the 1st or 2nd week in June.
 
The meeting was closed with no undue objections at 7:23pm. 
 
Matthew Ormsby
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[PBSS] April Meeting

[Ormsby, Matthew A]

April 10th, 2012 Meeting of the PBSS
 
Attendees:  Tony Abernathy, Walter Feaster, Matthew Ormsby, Alex Ormsby
and Patrick Ray
 
Financial Report: 781.79
 
Welcome back Walter. We continued the conversation about the need to add
Walter to the PBSS bank account so that he could do his treasurering
accurately. Given the banks hours Walter would only be able to meet
someone to be added to the account during his lunch hour, from 11:30 to
12:30. We discussed him possibly meeting Bill around 12:00 sometimes
before the end of April. Bill will be out of town the remainder of the
week so the soonest date this could be done would be April 16th. I said
I'd call Bill and let him know what we were shooting for to see if we
could make it happen this time. 
 
Walter gave an account of his current illness. He spent two weeks in the
hospital in San Antonio but is back in Midland now. His condition is
thrombotic thrombocytopenic purpura. We broke down the words to try and
understand the condition but I was unfamiliar with the word purpura
(I've since learned it means purple). 
Essentially, Walter is having unusual clotting in his small blood
vessels which leads to a deficiency of platelets (your clotting cells)
in the blood stream. As a result bleeding can occur under the skin,
which looks like bruising, which is purple. Mystery solved.
Unfortunately his kidney is not functioning normally. His quote was,
"Two weeks in the hospital, kidney quit, back on dialysis, it sucks."
 
We discussed the possibility of a return trip to Blue Quail on either
May 5th or 12th. Walter said he was probably free both weekends but
Patrick, Alex and myself all have prior commitments. Tony said his wife
will be having surgery soon so he also would probably not be able to
make the trip. 
 
We also began to talk about the SWR but it doesn't look like anyone is
going of the attendees so we undiscussed it. I mentioned that we were
still waiting to hear back on a date for Abyss but we were shooting for
the 1st or 2nd week in June.
 
The meeting was closed with no undue objections at 7:23pm. 
 
Matthew Ormsby
PBSS President
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[PBSS] April Meeting

[Ormsby, Matthew A]

April 10th, 2012 Meeting of the PBSS
 
Attendees:  Tony Abernathy, Walter Feaster, Matthew Ormsby, Alex Ormsby
and Patrick Ray
 
Financial Report: 781.79
 
Welcome back Walter. We continued the conversation about the need to add
Walter to the PBSS bank account so that he could do his treasurering
accurately. Given the banks hours Walter would only be able to meet
someone to be added to the account during his lunch hour, from 11:30 to
12:30. We discussed him possibly meeting Bill around 12:00 sometimes
before the end of April. Bill will be out of town the remainder of the
week so the soonest date this could be done would be April 16th. I said
I'd call Bill and let him know what we were shooting for to see if we
could make it happen this time. 
 
Walter gave an account of his current illness. He spent two weeks in the
hospital in San Antonio but is back in Midland now. His condition is
thrombotic thrombocytopenic purpura. We broke down the words to try and
understand the condition but I was unfamiliar with the word purpura
(I've since learned it means purple). 
Essentially, Walter is having unusual clotting in his small blood
vessels which leads to a deficiency of platelets (your clotting cells)
in the blood stream. As a result bleeding can occur under the skin,
which looks like bruising, which is purple. Mystery solved.
Unfortunately his kidney is not functioning normally. His quote was,
"Two weeks in the hospital, kidney quit, back on dialysis, it sucks."
 
We discussed the possibility of a return trip to Blue Quail on either
May 5th or 12th. Walter said he was probably free both weekends but
Patrick, Alex and myself all have prior commitments. Tony said his wife
will be having surgery soon so he also would probably not be able to
make the trip. 
 
We also began to talk about the SWR but it doesn't look like anyone is
going of the attendees so we undiscussed it. I mentioned that we were
still waiting to hear back on a date for Abyss but we were shooting for
the 1st or 2nd week in June.
 
The meeting was closed with no undue objections at 7:23pm. 
 
Matthew Ormsby
PBSS President
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[PBSS] March PBSS meeting notes

[Ormsby, Matthew A]

Meeting notes March 13th 2012

 The March meeting of the PBSS opened at 1903 with Matthew, Alex,
Tristan, Bill, Tony, Patrick, Andrew and Herman Miller in attendance.

 We have money, probably. No report was given as Walter was in the
hospital and not able to make the meeting. On that note the need to
transfer treasurer responsibilities at the bank from Bill Bentley to
Walter Feaster was readressed. Bill again noted he thought the president
should also be included in the process and be able to write checks. In
Walters absence and due to his unavailability it was decided to transfer
the account from Bill Bentley's name to Matthew Ormsby's name during the
week following spring break. When Walter becomes available Matthew will
then add his name to the account. 

A trip report on our recent visit to Deep Cave in CCNP was given.

Upcoming events to the Spring SWR, National Convention, TSA and TCMA
events were discussed. 
 
Herman discussed the Board of Directors and things associated with the
upcoming elections as well as a possible spring break trip with RD. We
also discussed possible trips in the Big Bend region, Abyss, 400 foot
and the current LNF and CCNP caves open for rec. permits.
 
The meeting was closed at 1933
 
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[PBSS] March PBSS meeting notes

[Ormsby, Matthew A]

Meeting notes March 13th 2012

 The March meeting of the PBSS opened at 1903 with Matthew, Alex,
Tristan, Bill, Tony, Patrick, Andrew and Herman Miller in attendance.

 We have money, probably. No report was given as Walter was in the
hospital and not able to make the meeting. On that note the need to
transfer treasurer responsibilities at the bank from Bill Bentley to
Walter Feaster was readressed. Bill again noted he thought the president
should also be included in the process and be able to write checks. In
Walters absence and due to his unavailability it was decided to transfer
the account from Bill Bentley's name to Matthew Ormsby's name during the
week following spring break. When Walter becomes available Matthew will
then add his name to the account. 

A trip report on our recent visit to Deep Cave in CCNP was given.

Upcoming events to the Spring SWR, National Convention, TSA and TCMA
events were discussed. 
 
Herman discussed the Board of Directors and things associated with the
upcoming elections as well as a possible spring break trip with RD. We
also discussed possible trips in the Big Bend region, Abyss, 400 foot
and the current LNF and CCNP caves open for rec. permits.
 
The meeting was closed at 1933
 
Matthew Ormsby, President
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[PBSS] March PBSS meeting notes

[Ormsby, Matthew A]

Meeting notes March 13th 2012

 The March meeting of the PBSS opened at 1903 with Matthew, Alex,
Tristan, Bill, Tony, Patrick, Andrew and Herman Miller in attendance.

 We have money, probably. No report was given as Walter was in the
hospital and not able to make the meeting. On that note the need to
transfer treasurer responsibilities at the bank from Bill Bentley to
Walter Feaster was readressed. Bill again noted he thought the president
should also be included in the process and be able to write checks. In
Walters absence and due to his unavailability it was decided to transfer
the account from Bill Bentley's name to Matthew Ormsby's name during the
week following spring break. When Walter becomes available Matthew will
then add his name to the account. 

A trip report on our recent visit to Deep Cave in CCNP was given.

Upcoming events to the Spring SWR, National Convention, TSA and TCMA
events were discussed. 
 
Herman discussed the Board of Directors and things associated with the
upcoming elections as well as a possible spring break trip with RD. We
also discussed possible trips in the Big Bend region, Abyss, 400 foot
and the current LNF and CCNP caves open for rec. permits.
 
The meeting was closed at 1933
 
Matthew Ormsby, President
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[PBSS] monthly meeting

[Ormsby, Matthew A]

All,
The next meeting of the Permian Basin Speleological Society is Tuesday
March 13th, 2012 at 7:00 p.m. We are still at Murray's Delicatessen in
Midland, Texas. Murray's is is located at 3211 West Wadley in Midland.
We meet in the back room. Come early & have dinner--we have the room
starting at 6:00

We will discuss the recent trip to Deep Cave in Carlsbad Caverns
National Park and upcoming events like the spring regional at Fort
Stanton. Were also looking to plan a few more trips for this spring so
if you'd like to go caving and you often have conflicts with your
schedule, this is the place to get them resolved.
 
Any and all are welcome! For further information about the Permian Basin
Speleological Society contact: Matthew Ormsby ma_orm...@msn.com
mailto:ma_orm...@msn.com>  Jacqui Thomas jlrtho...@verizon.net
mailto:jlrtho...@verizon.net>  , Bill Bentley ca...@caver.net,
or Patrick Ray patrickray...@yahoo.com

PBSS web page:
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http://www.caver.net/pbss/pbss.html> 
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was chartered as the 300th grotto of the National Speleological Society
on January 18, 1984. The Permian Basin Speleological Society is an
affiliated grotto or Caving club with the Texas Speleological
Association and the Southwestern Region of the National Speleological
Society and supports the cave conservation ethics of the National
Speleological Society.
 
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[PBSS] monthly meeting

[Ormsby, Matthew A]

All,
The next meeting of the Permian Basin Speleological Society is Tuesday
March 13th, 2012 at 7:00 p.m. We are still at Murray's Delicatessen in
Midland, Texas. Murray's is is located at 3211 West Wadley in Midland.
We meet in the back room. Come early & have dinner--we have the room
starting at 6:00

We will discuss the recent trip to Deep Cave in Carlsbad Caverns
National Park and upcoming events like the spring regional at Fort
Stanton. Were also looking to plan a few more trips for this spring so
if you'd like to go caving and you often have conflicts with your
schedule, this is the place to get them resolved.
 
Any and all are welcome! For further information about the Permian Basin
Speleological Society contact: Matthew Ormsby ma_orm...@msn.com
mailto:ma_orm...@msn.com>  Jacqui Thomas jlrtho...@verizon.net
mailto:jlrtho...@verizon.net>  , Bill Bentley ca...@caver.net,
or Patrick Ray patrickray...@yahoo.com

PBSS web page:
http://www.caver.net/pbss/pbss.html
http://www.caver.net/pbss/pbss.html> 
The Permian Basin Speleological Society was founded in October 1983 and
was chartered as the 300th grotto of the National Speleological Society
on January 18, 1984. The Permian Basin Speleological Society is an
affiliated grotto or Caving club with the Texas Speleological
Association and the Southwestern Region of the National Speleological
Society and supports the cave conservation ethics of the National
Speleological Society.
 
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[PBSS] monthly meeting

[Ormsby, Matthew A]

All,
The next meeting of the Permian Basin Speleological Society is Tuesday
March 13th, 2012 at 7:00 p.m. We are still at Murray's Delicatessen in
Midland, Texas. Murray's is is located at 3211 West Wadley in Midland.
We meet in the back room. Come early & have dinner--we have the room
starting at 6:00

We will discuss the recent trip to Deep Cave in Carlsbad Caverns
National Park and upcoming events like the spring regional at Fort
Stanton. Were also looking to plan a few more trips for this spring so
if you'd like to go caving and you often have conflicts with your
schedule, this is the place to get them resolved.
 
Any and all are welcome! For further information about the Permian Basin
Speleological Society contact: Matthew Ormsby ma_orm...@msn.com
mailto:ma_orm...@msn.com>  Jacqui Thomas jlrtho...@verizon.net
mailto:jlrtho...@verizon.net>  , Bill Bentley ca...@caver.net,
or Patrick Ray patrickray...@yahoo.com

PBSS web page:
http://www.caver.net/pbss/pbss.html
http://www.caver.net/pbss/pbss.html> 
The Permian Basin Speleological Society was founded in October 1983 and
was chartered as the 300th grotto of the National Speleological Society
on January 18, 1984. The Permian Basin Speleological Society is an
affiliated grotto or Caving club with the Texas Speleological
Association and the Southwestern Region of the National Speleological
Society and supports the cave conservation ethics of the National
Speleological Society.
 
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[PBSS] PBSS Monthly Meeting

[Ormsby, Matthew A]

All,
The next meeting of the Permian Basin Speleological Society is Tuesday
February 14th, 2012 at 7:00 p.m. We are still at Murray's Delicatessen
in Midland, Texas. Murray's is is located at 3211 West Wadley in
Midland. We meet in the back room. Come early & have dinner--we have the
room starting at 6:00

A report will be given regarding the dig at Blue Quail Cave in January.
We will discuss the upcoming trip to Pink Panther and other caves in LNF
February 25-26th and conflicts associated with the newly announced SWR
project as well as the TCC Winter Conference. A possible O-9 Well trip
will also be discussed. Basically, there's gonna be a lot of discussion
in as little time as possible because it's Valentine's Day and everyone
that attends the meeting is gonna be in the dog house with their
significant other; were going to try and minimize that. 
 
Any and all are welcome! For further information about the Permian Basin
Speleological Society contact: Matthew Ormsby ma_orm...@msn.com Jacqui
Thomas jlrtho...@verizon.net , Bill Bentley ca...@caver.net, or Patrick
Ray patrickray...@yahoo.com

PBSS web page:
http://www.caver.net/pbss/pbss.html
http://www.caver.net/pbss/pbss.html> 
The Permian Basin Speleological Society was founded in October 1983 and
was chartered as the 300th grotto of the National Speleological Society
on January 18, 1984. The Permian Basin Speleological Society is an
affiliated grotto or Caving club with the Texas Speleological
Association and the Southwestern Region of the National Speleological
Society and supports the cave conservation ethics of the National
Speleological Society.
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[PBSS] PBSS Monthly Meeting

[Ormsby, Matthew A]

All,
The next meeting of the Permian Basin Speleological Society is Tuesday
February 14th, 2012 at 7:00 p.m. We are still at Murray's Delicatessen
in Midland, Texas. Murray's is is located at 3211 West Wadley in
Midland. We meet in the back room. Come early & have dinner--we have the
room starting at 6:00

A report will be given regarding the dig at Blue Quail Cave in January.
We will discuss the upcoming trip to Pink Panther and other caves in LNF
February 25-26th and conflicts associated with the newly announced SWR
project as well as the TCC Winter Conference. A possible O-9 Well trip
will also be discussed. Basically, there's gonna be a lot of discussion
in as little time as possible because it's Valentine's Day and everyone
that attends the meeting is gonna be in the dog house with their
significant other; were going to try and minimize that. 
 
Any and all are welcome! For further information about the Permian Basin
Speleological Society contact: Matthew Ormsby ma_orm...@msn.com Jacqui
Thomas jlrtho...@verizon.net , Bill Bentley ca...@caver.net, or Patrick
Ray patrickray...@yahoo.com

PBSS web page:
http://www.caver.net/pbss/pbss.html
http://www.caver.net/pbss/pbss.html> 
The Permian Basin Speleological Society was founded in October 1983 and
was chartered as the 300th grotto of the National Speleological Society
on January 18, 1984. The Permian Basin Speleological Society is an
affiliated grotto or Caving club with the Texas Speleological
Association and the Southwestern Region of the National Speleological
Society and supports the cave conservation ethics of the National
Speleological Society.
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[PBSS] PBSS Monthly Meeting

[Ormsby, Matthew A]

All,
The next meeting of the Permian Basin Speleological Society is Tuesday
February 14th, 2012 at 7:00 p.m. We are still at Murray's Delicatessen
in Midland, Texas. Murray's is is located at 3211 West Wadley in
Midland. We meet in the back room. Come early & have dinner--we have the
room starting at 6:00

A report will be given regarding the dig at Blue Quail Cave in January.
We will discuss the upcoming trip to Pink Panther and other caves in LNF
February 25-26th and conflicts associated with the newly announced SWR
project as well as the TCC Winter Conference. A possible O-9 Well trip
will also be discussed. Basically, there's gonna be a lot of discussion
in as little time as possible because it's Valentine's Day and everyone
that attends the meeting is gonna be in the dog house with their
significant other; were going to try and minimize that. 
 
Any and all are welcome! For further information about the Permian Basin
Speleological Society contact: Matthew Ormsby ma_orm...@msn.com Jacqui
Thomas jlrtho...@verizon.net , Bill Bentley ca...@caver.net, or Patrick
Ray patrickray...@yahoo.com

PBSS web page:
http://www.caver.net/pbss/pbss.html
http://www.caver.net/pbss/pbss.html> 
The Permian Basin Speleological Society was founded in October 1983 and
was chartered as the 300th grotto of the National Speleological Society
on January 18, 1984. The Permian Basin Speleological Society is an
affiliated grotto or Caving club with the Texas Speleological
Association and the Southwestern Region of the National Speleological
Society and supports the cave conservation ethics of the National
Speleological Society.
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Re: [PBSS] Amazing Maze date

[Ormsby, Matthew A]

Jacqui, 

I spoke with Don Arburn about organizing a trip to Punkin and Deep Cave
near Carta Valley between Del Rio and Rocksprings and this was his
reply. 

 Matt, just set a date, we'll work out the rest. Basically you will need
a designated trip leader to accompany your group, I have a list I can
call upon for volunteers. This person will know the cabin procedures and
the paths through the caves. Currently, due to bats, Punkin is closed
except for the main big room and it's two rope drops. Deep cave surveys
begin soon, therefore opening more cave for your pleasure.


There is a $5 per person property usage donation and a few hours of
service work. I have directions, liability releases and volunteer hour
worksheets. Currently there is a burn ban (no fires), and a requirement
that each individual brings 5 or more gallons of potable water to use
and then add to the cisterns there.


There are many good campsites and the field station has 9 bunks plus
couches. There is a shower, kitchen table and fully outfitted kitchen.
We even have a presentation screen should anyone bring a projector.


Today I'm heading out there to do recon on the upcoming Deep surveys.


There is cell service there.


My phone number is 361-362-3677, give me a shout with any questions.


Is there any interest from grotto members in making a trip to these
caves? I believe I will certainly organize something in the future so
Alex, Tyler, Tristan and I can go as well as anyone else that would be
interested. 

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Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 8:36 AM
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Subject: [PBSS] Amazing Maze date

PBSS Amazing Maze trip will be the weekend of August 20th. I will make
the arrangements and will pass along more details closer to the date.

Jacqui 


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Re: [PBSS] Amazing Maze date

[Ormsby, Matthew A]

Jacqui, 

I spoke with Don Arburn about organizing a trip to Punkin and Deep Cave
near Carta Valley between Del Rio and Rocksprings and this was his
reply. 

 Matt, just set a date, we'll work out the rest. Basically you will need
a designated trip leader to accompany your group, I have a list I can
call upon for volunteers. This person will know the cabin procedures and
the paths through the caves. Currently, due to bats, Punkin is closed
except for the main big room and it's two rope drops. Deep cave surveys
begin soon, therefore opening more cave for your pleasure.


There is a $5 per person property usage donation and a few hours of
service work. I have directions, liability releases and volunteer hour
worksheets. Currently there is a burn ban (no fires), and a requirement
that each individual brings 5 or more gallons of potable water to use
and then add to the cisterns there.


There are many good campsites and the field station has 9 bunks plus
couches. There is a shower, kitchen table and fully outfitted kitchen.
We even have a presentation screen should anyone bring a projector.


Today I'm heading out there to do recon on the upcoming Deep surveys.


There is cell service there.


My phone number is 361-362-3677, give me a shout with any questions.


Is there any interest from grotto members in making a trip to these
caves? I believe I will certainly organize something in the future so
Alex, Tyler, Tristan and I can go as well as anyone else that would be
interested. 

-Original Message-
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Of J. LaRue Thomas
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 8:36 AM
To: p...@caver.net
Cc: whoop !
Subject: [PBSS] Amazing Maze date

PBSS Amazing Maze trip will be the weekend of August 20th. I will make
the arrangements and will pass along more details closer to the date.

Jacqui 


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Re: [PBSS] Amazing Maze date

[Ormsby, Matthew A]

Jacqui, 

I spoke with Don Arburn about organizing a trip to Punkin and Deep Cave
near Carta Valley between Del Rio and Rocksprings and this was his
reply. 

 Matt, just set a date, we'll work out the rest. Basically you will need
a designated trip leader to accompany your group, I have a list I can
call upon for volunteers. This person will know the cabin procedures and
the paths through the caves. Currently, due to bats, Punkin is closed
except for the main big room and it's two rope drops. Deep cave surveys
begin soon, therefore opening more cave for your pleasure.


There is a $5 per person property usage donation and a few hours of
service work. I have directions, liability releases and volunteer hour
worksheets. Currently there is a burn ban (no fires), and a requirement
that each individual brings 5 or more gallons of potable water to use
and then add to the cisterns there.


There are many good campsites and the field station has 9 bunks plus
couches. There is a shower, kitchen table and fully outfitted kitchen.
We even have a presentation screen should anyone bring a projector.


Today I'm heading out there to do recon on the upcoming Deep surveys.


There is cell service there.


My phone number is 361-362-3677, give me a shout with any questions.


Is there any interest from grotto members in making a trip to these
caves? I believe I will certainly organize something in the future so
Alex, Tyler, Tristan and I can go as well as anyone else that would be
interested. 

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Subject: [PBSS] Amazing Maze date

PBSS Amazing Maze trip will be the weekend of August 20th. I will make
the arrangements and will pass along more details closer to the date.

Jacqui 


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