Re: [Texascavers] Avery Ranch Cave brochure
Mike Walsh would be the person I'd ask first. Ryan Monjaras "Semper Exploro" (832)754-5778 Maverick Grotto Cowtown Grotto DFW Grotto UT Grotto Bexar Grotto Greater Houston Grotto Texas Speleological Association Texas Cave Management Association Whole Earth Provision Co Shepherd- Gear Dept Head Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S6 edge+. Original message From: Galen Falgout via Texascavers Date: 6/26/17 2:52 PM (GMT-06:00) To: texascavers@texascavers.com Cc: Galen Falgout Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Avery Ranch Cave brochure I have not heard of this. If there is one out there I would like a copy as well being the preserve manager. On Jun 26, 2017 2:46 PM, "Mixon Bill via Texascavers" mailto:texascavers@texascavers.com>> wrote: NSS member Gary Soule of Wisconsin collects show-cave memorabilia and thinks he had heard about a printed brochure on Avery Ranch Cave. Anybody know about such a thing? -- Mixon Nature is a hanging judge. You may "reply" to the address this message (unless it's a TexasCavers list post) came from, but for long-term use, save: Personal: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu<mailto:bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu> AMCS: a...@mexicancaves.org<mailto:a...@mexicancaves.org> or sa...@mexicancaves.org<mailto:sa...@mexicancaves.org> ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com<mailto:Texascavers@texascavers.com> | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] TCR food
2011 at Flat Creek Ranch. I like the idea of a hog on a spit as it ties in with the viking theme, and I would be happy to help. Ryan Monjaras "Semper Exploro" Maverick Grotto Cowtown Grotto DFW Grotto UT Grotto Bexar Grotto Greater Houston Grotto Texas Speleological Association Texas Cave Management Association Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S6 edge+. Original message From: David via Texascavers Date: 2/18/17 6:25 PM (GMT-06:00) To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] TCR food If you are not going to have a hog rotating over a wood fire and fire-roasted vegetables then why even have a dinner ?Or at least some food cooked over wood, or at least charcoal. I am just curious when was the last time that the hog's head was the centerpiece of the table ? I hope to arrive at TCR on Saturday at 5 pm. and hopefully find some leftover scraps. I can only pray that I will be single by then. David Locklear ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] an idea for fund raising
I can't agree with you David. Firstly, most grottos dues already are $10 for the year, not just 3 months. Do you propose we uncrease our yearly dues for the rest of the members? Secondly, we are not the kind of people who alienate and deny others of the joys of caving simply because they can't pay dues. And last of all, I've only seen the hat passed around a handful of time and new members have not been asked or expected to donate for someone or something they don't know. Ryan Monjaras "Semper Exploro" Maverick Grotto Cowtown Grotto DFW Grotto UT Grotto Bexar Grotto Greater Houston Grotto Texas Speilogical Association Texas Cave Management Association Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 14:56:12 -0500 To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] an idea for fund raising From: texascavers@texascavers.com I have seen dozens of people very interested in caving come to one caving meeting and either never come back or only go on one caving trip. I would like to formally propose that caving organizations offer all new visitors and the general public an Introductory 3 Month Membership for $ 5 for students and $ 10 for others. And if they turn that down, then you can get more aggressive about not including them in the group when they do not renew. It scares people off when the first thing they hear from a group is put money in the "collection plate." David Locklear NSS Life-Member # 27639 ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] HOT Deals: Honey Creek Cave Salamander Tshirt for Sale!
Ellie Falgot? She's a Nigerian princess, totally ligit. Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S6 edge+. Original message From: Sheryl Rieck via Texascavers Date: 4/2/2016 9:29 AM (GMT-06:00) To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] HOT Deals: Honey Creek Cave Salamander Tshirt for Sale! Who are you? I hate to send money to people I don't know. 😉 Sheryl Rieck sheryl.ri...@gmail.com "You can't always get what you want but if you try sometime, you just might find you get what you need" Rolling Stones > On Apr 2, 2016, at 9:17 AM, Ellie Falgout via Texascavers > wrote: > > I am willing to place another order of Honey Creek Cave T shirts if anyone is > interested. I will accept payment through the end of the month and place the > order on May 1, 2016. > > Pricing: > $21.23 (plus tax) per shirt if we order 12 shirts > $13.08 (plus tax) per shirt if we order 24 shirts > Personalization is easy! $5.00 per Name and $3.00 per Number > Please let me know if you would like a shirt, size and quantity. I will keep > your info and follow up with you on final price and payment details on May 1, > 2016. > > I will need payment through paypal before I make the order on May 1, 2016. If > you want me to ship your shirt to you, I will also need $ for shipping. I > will give you a total quote before I place the order and you can accept and > pay me or decline. > > T shirt type: Gildan Heavy Cotton Basic T-Shirt | Color - Purple > Print Type: Screenprinting > Photo of shirt at https://goo.gl/photos/Z46r9oM6BPSCXvTL7 > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] Bustamante Cave
I would be interested in upcoming trips. What are the dates? Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S6 edge+. Original message From: "Asociación Coahuilense de Espeleología AC. via Texascavers" Date: 3/1/2016 11:03 AM (GMT-06:00) To: TSA Cavers Subject: [Texascavers] Bustamante Cave Hi Everyone. I just to obtain a permission from the new authorities of the goverment on Nuevo León, to start the survey project on Bustamante Cave. this permission is for two years Do you want come to participe with me to finish the survey? Please let me know if you are interest? write me at this email and I can answer all your questions. If you really wants to help me on Bustamante Cave survey, please contact me. Regards Mónica Ponce Note: And let me tell you, in past time about some people of this clube anounced information about the birthday passage. I'm so sorry about it. but now, they are not more members this association, so you don't have problems with them. -- LCC. MÓNICA GRISSEL PONCE GONZÁLEZ Coordinadora de la Comisión Internacional de Técnicas y Materiales de la UIS Instructor Nacional Certificado de Espeleología por la FMAS Directora de MP- Mex Caving Asociación Coahuilense de Espeleología, A.C. (Fundadora) Asociación Italiana Geográfica La Venta (Socia) Centro de Estudios Kársticos La Venta (Socia) Grupo Espeleológico Vaxakmen, A.C. (Socia) Grupo Espeleológico EspeleoZots en Chetumal (Asesora) Grupo Pionero de Espeleología en Sonora (Asesora) Association for Mexican Cave Studies (Colaboradora) Texas Speleological Association (Socia) Unión Mexicana de Agrupaciones Espeleológicas (Socia) ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
[Texascavers] Bomb In Hays County Cave
Here's the best source I've found so far. http://www.khou.com/news/texas-news?fId=240379931&fPath=/news/local/&fDomain=10232 "Semper Exploro" Ryan MonjarasMaverick GrottoCowtown GrottoDFW GrottoUT GrottoBexar GrottoGreater Houston GrottoTSATCMALost Oasis Preserve Manager (832)754-5778
[Texascavers] Off-trail exploration of Wonder Cave
So I went off trail at Wonder Cave today as I work there and can get permission from the manager. I went to a small hole that I knew lead to a larger room from a previous off-trail trip and had to turn back due to time constraints and I got a little lost. This time I went farther than before and can easily say the cave is more than double than what is on the map and had to head out early because I did not feel comfortable in that much cave by myself and I got lost again. Now don't laugh, but I need help to finish exploring this off-trail section. I got permission from the general manager to take cavers down this Wednesday to explore more, either e-mail me or text my cell which is below my signature. "Semper Exploro" Ryan MonjarasMaverick GrottoCowtown GrottoDFW GrottoUT Grotto Bexar GrottoGreater Houston GrottoTSATCMALost Oasis Preserve Manager (832)754-5778
[Texascavers] Lost Oasis Preserve Clean-up this Sunday
This Sunday, Nov. 17th, will be the work day for Lost Oasis Preserve in Austin. I will need people to bring chainsaws, lopers, weedeaters and you should also wear gardening gloves. I will be there at 10 AM to get started and we will go for 3 or 4 hours, afterwards access to the cave will be allowed and drinks and sandwiches provided. Our main objectives will be the eradication of invasive species, establishing fire breaks and aesthetics of the preserve. The address is 4116 Lost Oasis Hollow Austin, TX 78739. "Semper Exploro" Ryan MonjarasMaverick GrottoCowtown GrottoDFW GrottoUT Grotto Bexar GrottoGreater Houston GrottoTSATCMALost Oasis Preserve Manager (832)754-5778
[Texascavers] Lost Oasis Cave Cleanup
I'd like to announce a spring clean up for Lost Oasis Cave on Saturday April 20th. I plan to remove the invasive species and overgrown stuff from the property starting with the fenced in portion and moving out from there. I'd need volunteers to bring chainsaws, loppers, bow rakes and gloves. I'll provide refreshments and lunch. Afterwards, anyone who wants to go into the cave, can. Message me for for more information. "Semper Exploro" Ryan MonjarasMaverick GrottoCowtown GrottoDFW GrottoUT Grotto Bexar GrottoGreater Houston GrottoTSATCMALost Oasis Preserve Manager (832)754-5778
[Texascavers] Lost Oasis Cave Cleanup
I'd like to announce a spring clean up for Lost Oasis Cave on Saturday April 20th. I plan to remove the invasive species and overgrown stuff from the property starting with the fenced in portion and moving out from there. I'd need volunteers to bring chainsaws, loppers, bow rakes and gloves. I'll provide refreshments and lunch. Afterwards, anyone who wants to go into the cave, can. Message me for for more information. "Semper Exploro" Ryan MonjarasMaverick GrottoCowtown GrottoDFW GrottoUT Grotto Bexar GrottoGreater Houston GrottoTSATCMALost Oasis Preserve Manager (832)754-5778
[Texascavers] Lost Oasis Cave Cleanup
I'd like to announce a spring clean up for Lost Oasis Cave on Saturday April 20th. I plan to remove the invasive species and overgrown stuff from the property starting with the fenced in portion and moving out from there. I'd need volunteers to bring chainsaws, loppers, bow rakes and gloves. I'll provide refreshments and lunch. Afterwards, anyone who wants to go into the cave, can. Message me for for more information. "Semper Exploro" Ryan MonjarasMaverick GrottoCowtown GrottoDFW GrottoUT Grotto Bexar GrottoGreater Houston GrottoTSATCMALost Oasis Preserve Manager (832)754-5778
RE: [Texascavers] Forwarded to Texas Cavers
He came to Wonder-world Park (where I work now) today for a cave tour and I talked to him a bit about getting involved in the caving scene down here. "Semper Exploro" Ryan MonjarasMaverick GrottoCowtown GrottoDFW GrottoUT GrottoBexar GrottoGreater Houston GrottoTSATCMALost Oasis Preserve Manager (832)754-5778 From: gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org To: texascavers@texascavers.com List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2013 21:28:22 -0600 Subject: [Texascavers] Forwarded to Texas Cavers This is an email I received from Riley Cahoon whom I have also talked with. I recommended he attend the UT grotto meeting on Wednesday and introduce himself. I would also encourage folks to contact Riley and invite him on a caving trip or ridge walking. Geary From: Riley Cahoon [mailto:cahoons...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 6:13 PM To: Geary Schindel Subject: Caving Hello, I am a Local Californian here in Texas on a temporary duty assignment with the military for a few months. Though I don't have my degree yet; I love biology and ecology and I am an avid explorer back home. I stumbled upon the caving community after researching the local salamander population that is endangered here. I have been calling several people trying to get an opportunity to appreciate Texas and it's cave biology. I would be more then grateful to be a part of your explorations and efforts. please give me a call or email me with any information on opportunities. Let me know If I can do anything to help. Thank you, -Riley CahoonCell: 805-450-8004email:cahoons...@gmail.com
RE: [Texascavers] Forwarded to Texas Cavers
He came to Wonder-world Park (where I work now) today for a cave tour and I talked to him a bit about getting involved in the caving scene down here. "Semper Exploro" Ryan MonjarasMaverick GrottoCowtown GrottoDFW GrottoUT GrottoBexar GrottoGreater Houston GrottoTSATCMALost Oasis Preserve Manager (832)754-5778 From: gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org To: texascavers@texascavers.com List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2013 21:28:22 -0600 Subject: [Texascavers] Forwarded to Texas Cavers This is an email I received from Riley Cahoon whom I have also talked with. I recommended he attend the UT grotto meeting on Wednesday and introduce himself. I would also encourage folks to contact Riley and invite him on a caving trip or ridge walking. Geary From: Riley Cahoon [mailto:cahoons...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 6:13 PM To: Geary Schindel Subject: Caving Hello, I am a Local Californian here in Texas on a temporary duty assignment with the military for a few months. Though I don't have my degree yet; I love biology and ecology and I am an avid explorer back home. I stumbled upon the caving community after researching the local salamander population that is endangered here. I have been calling several people trying to get an opportunity to appreciate Texas and it's cave biology. I would be more then grateful to be a part of your explorations and efforts. please give me a call or email me with any information on opportunities. Let me know If I can do anything to help. Thank you, -Riley CahoonCell: 805-450-8004email:cahoons...@gmail.com
RE: [Texascavers] Forwarded to Texas Cavers
He came to Wonder-world Park (where I work now) today for a cave tour and I talked to him a bit about getting involved in the caving scene down here. "Semper Exploro" Ryan MonjarasMaverick GrottoCowtown GrottoDFW GrottoUT GrottoBexar GrottoGreater Houston GrottoTSATCMALost Oasis Preserve Manager (832)754-5778 From: gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org To: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2013 21:28:22 -0600 Subject: [Texascavers] Forwarded to Texas Cavers This is an email I received from Riley Cahoon whom I have also talked with. I recommended he attend the UT grotto meeting on Wednesday and introduce himself. I would also encourage folks to contact Riley and invite him on a caving trip or ridge walking. Geary From: Riley Cahoon [mailto:cahoons...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 6:13 PM To: Geary Schindel Subject: Caving Hello, I am a Local Californian here in Texas on a temporary duty assignment with the military for a few months. Though I don't have my degree yet; I love biology and ecology and I am an avid explorer back home. I stumbled upon the caving community after researching the local salamander population that is endangered here. I have been calling several people trying to get an opportunity to appreciate Texas and it's cave biology. I would be more then grateful to be a part of your explorations and efforts. please give me a call or email me with any information on opportunities. Let me know If I can do anything to help. Thank you, -Riley CahoonCell: 805-450-8004email:cahoons...@gmail.com
RE: [Texascavers] Grotto setups?
According to legend the U.T. Grotto does have a constitution Once upon a time (the mid 70's), the N.S.S. sent out word throughout the land requesting constitutions from all the kingdoms (N.S.S. affiliated grottos) and a copy was magically produced as if out of thin air. Grotto lore says that the N.S.S copy is the only one in existence as the others have been lost to time, but some believe that the grand wizard (Gil Edigar) has a copy stashed away somewhere. "Semper Exploro" Ryan MonjarasMaverick GrottoCowtown GrottoDFW GrottoUT Grotto SecretaryBexar GrottoGreater Houston GrottoTSATCMALost Oasis Preserve Manager (832)754-5778 > Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 15:37:53 -0700 > From: l...@alumni.sfu.ca > To: texascavers@texascavers.com > Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Grotto setups? > > I think the UT Grotto in Austin has no contitution at all can > someone in the UT Grotto confirm this is the case? > > On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Mallory Mayeux wrote: > > Greetings, Texas cavers! > > > > The Houston grotto is in the process of updating it's constitution (which > > hasn't been touched since 1972) and I wanted to get some insight from other > > parts of the Texas caving community. > > > > How many officers does your grotto have? What are their titles/roles? Do you > > have separate "trip chairs" or does the chairman typically announce what's > > going on each month? Who decides how to spend your money...does the club as > > a whole vote on expenditures, or do the officers decide alone? > > > > Also, in a perfect world, what would you change about the structure of your > > club? (Especially changes that will facilitate more involvement and actual > > caving.) > > > > I know every grotto has a different situation, depending on how much actual > > caving you have going on in an average week/month, and how much money you > > have in your grotto bank account. Likely some things that work well in say, > > Austin wouldn't work well at all in Houston, and vice versa. And that's OK. > > :) My hope is that this email stirs up some interesting discussion and > > gives us some ideas for our update! > > > > Thanks! > > > > Mallory Mayeux > > GHG Secretary > > > > -- > Lyndon Tiu > > - > Visit our website: http://texascavers.com > To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com > For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com >
RE: [Texascavers] Grotto setups?
According to legend the U.T. Grotto does have a constitution Once upon a time (the mid 70's), the N.S.S. sent out word throughout the land requesting constitutions from all the kingdoms (N.S.S. affiliated grottos) and a copy was magically produced as if out of thin air. Grotto lore says that the N.S.S copy is the only one in existence as the others have been lost to time, but some believe that the grand wizard (Gil Edigar) has a copy stashed away somewhere. "Semper Exploro" Ryan MonjarasMaverick GrottoCowtown GrottoDFW GrottoUT Grotto SecretaryBexar GrottoGreater Houston GrottoTSATCMALost Oasis Preserve Manager (832)754-5778 > Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 15:37:53 -0700 > From: l...@alumni.sfu.ca > To: texascavers@texascavers.com > Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Grotto setups? > > I think the UT Grotto in Austin has no contitution at all can > someone in the UT Grotto confirm this is the case? > > On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Mallory Mayeux wrote: > > Greetings, Texas cavers! > > > > The Houston grotto is in the process of updating it's constitution (which > > hasn't been touched since 1972) and I wanted to get some insight from other > > parts of the Texas caving community. > > > > How many officers does your grotto have? What are their titles/roles? Do you > > have separate "trip chairs" or does the chairman typically announce what's > > going on each month? Who decides how to spend your money...does the club as > > a whole vote on expenditures, or do the officers decide alone? > > > > Also, in a perfect world, what would you change about the structure of your > > club? (Especially changes that will facilitate more involvement and actual > > caving.) > > > > I know every grotto has a different situation, depending on how much actual > > caving you have going on in an average week/month, and how much money you > > have in your grotto bank account. Likely some things that work well in say, > > Austin wouldn't work well at all in Houston, and vice versa. And that's OK. > > :) My hope is that this email stirs up some interesting discussion and > > gives us some ideas for our update! > > > > Thanks! > > > > Mallory Mayeux > > GHG Secretary > > > > -- > Lyndon Tiu > > - > Visit our website: http://texascavers.com > To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com > For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com >
RE: [Texascavers] Grotto setups?
According to legend the U.T. Grotto does have a constitution Once upon a time (the mid 70's), the N.S.S. sent out word throughout the land requesting constitutions from all the kingdoms (N.S.S. affiliated grottos) and a copy was magically produced as if out of thin air. Grotto lore says that the N.S.S copy is the only one in existence as the others have been lost to time, but some believe that the grand wizard (Gil Edigar) has a copy stashed away somewhere. "Semper Exploro" Ryan MonjarasMaverick GrottoCowtown GrottoDFW GrottoUT Grotto SecretaryBexar GrottoGreater Houston GrottoTSATCMALost Oasis Preserve Manager (832)754-5778 > Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 15:37:53 -0700 > From: l...@alumni.sfu.ca > To: texascavers@texascavers.com > Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Grotto setups? > > I think the UT Grotto in Austin has no contitution at all can > someone in the UT Grotto confirm this is the case? > > On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Mallory Mayeux wrote: > > Greetings, Texas cavers! > > > > The Houston grotto is in the process of updating it's constitution (which > > hasn't been touched since 1972) and I wanted to get some insight from other > > parts of the Texas caving community. > > > > How many officers does your grotto have? What are their titles/roles? Do you > > have separate "trip chairs" or does the chairman typically announce what's > > going on each month? Who decides how to spend your money...does the club as > > a whole vote on expenditures, or do the officers decide alone? > > > > Also, in a perfect world, what would you change about the structure of your > > club? (Especially changes that will facilitate more involvement and actual > > caving.) > > > > I know every grotto has a different situation, depending on how much actual > > caving you have going on in an average week/month, and how much money you > > have in your grotto bank account. Likely some things that work well in say, > > Austin wouldn't work well at all in Houston, and vice versa. And that's OK. > > :) My hope is that this email stirs up some interesting discussion and > > gives us some ideas for our update! > > > > Thanks! > > > > Mallory Mayeux > > GHG Secretary > > > > -- > Lyndon Tiu > > - > Visit our website: http://texascavers.com > To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com > For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com >
RE: [Texascavers] Beck Ranch Cave Update
How about a cube shaped gate. It would go vertical two feet then the top part would be bat friendly. Any debris would be trapped at the base and not block the top entrance part. There could also be a bottomless box type guard thing around the lock to prevent anyone from cutting the lock from the side. "Semper Exploro" Ryan MonjarasMaverick GrottoCowtown GrottoDFW GrottoUT Grotto SecretaryBexar GrottoGreater Houston GrottoTSATCMALost Oasis Preserve Manager (832)754-5778 List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 20:19:47 -0500 From: george.nincehel...@gmail.com To: andrew_gluesenk...@yahoo.com CC: mudmal...@hotmail.com; texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Beck Ranch Cave Update The trails are heavily used by the residents. Flood damage means more money spent fixing the trails. Most of the debris I'm talking about is organic. It washes down the wet branch of the cave to the aquifer. Nature runs her course. However, if a grate were placed over the opening, the debris would tend to pile up and block the opening. That's the problem. George On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 8:05 PM, Andy Gluesenkamp wrote: I've visited the cave (legally) but not during a flood event. Most of the trash I saw in the cave was hand-delivered. Can you describe the situation? I don't see how damage to park trails have anything to do with whether the cave is gated or not but, hey, you're the engineer. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 27, 2012, at 7:59 PM, "George D. Nincehelser" wrote: Washing out of park trails for a start. I'm not talking about damage to a gate. Any gate I've seen would just plug up with debris, restricting water flow and bat access. Are you actually familiar with the situation? Have you been there when it is raining heavily and flooding? Have you been on any of the clean-up trips? If someone has a solution, I'd be happy to hear it. As a local resident, member of the MUD, and member of the TCC I'd be happy to champion one. If there is one. I know just putting up the typical bat-friendly gate over the opening isn't going to work. George On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 7:40 PM, Andy Gluesenkamp wrote: What damage? Isn't there a perimeter fence? What is going past the fence that would damage a gate? Are you saying that debris/trash ( now going in the ungated entrance) would be a greater problem if it didn't? Sent from my iPhone On Sep 27, 2012, at 7:34 PM, "George D. Nincehelser" wrote: Unfortuntely that's not a practical solution. Not unless the MUD is willing to clean out the entrance and repair the flood damage after every big storm. As a resident, I can tell you that's just not going to happen. As an engineer I can tell you there is no easy fix. George On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 7:29 PM, Andy Gluesenkamp wrote: Any gate must be maintained. Any cave in a dense residential area is an attractive nuisance.Gate the cave and keep the trash (literal and figurative) out. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 27, 2012, at 7:24 PM, "George D. Nincehelser" wrote: My house is less than a block away from the entrance, and I've thought about this problem for years. Lots of water and debris flow through the entrance, and it is sometimes completely submerged during heavy rains. It's a major drain for the area. What kind of bat-friendly grate would you recommend that wouldn't keep plugging up with debris and cause flooding as well as blocking bat access? George On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 3:23 PM, wesley s wrote: Wow Mike, Sure sounds like a decent bat friendly gate install would have saved you a great deal of public and caver goodwill and protected the cave a hell of a lot better. I hope other cave managers are taking note of the difficulties you are having and learning from them. Wes~ From: mikewaus...@austin.rr.com To: Texascavers@texascavers.com List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 12:24:59 -0500 Subject: [Texascavers] Beck Ranch Cave Update Beck Ranch Cave Update In 1999, the Texas Cave Conservancy entered into a cave management agreement with the Brushy Creek Municipal Utility District. This is one of the few caves under TCC management that does not have a cave gate. The cave entrance was not gated in order for the bats to be able to enter and exit the cave. A high quality nine- foot tall iron fence was build to attempt to control access. Local teenagers were using it for a party cave. The fence allowed us to greatly reduce the party traffic so we could protect the cave. Today, locals continue to trespass and go into the cave. Texas cavers are going in without permission as well. Both the locals and the cavers have been confronted by law enforcement and issued citations for trespassing. In addition, the TCC has not been able to prevent the authorized caver groups from creating problems such a
RE: [Texascavers] Beck Ranch Cave Update
How about a cube shaped gate. It would go vertical two feet then the top part would be bat friendly. Any debris would be trapped at the base and not block the top entrance part. There could also be a bottomless box type guard thing around the lock to prevent anyone from cutting the lock from the side. "Semper Exploro" Ryan MonjarasMaverick GrottoCowtown GrottoDFW GrottoUT Grotto SecretaryBexar GrottoGreater Houston GrottoTSATCMALost Oasis Preserve Manager (832)754-5778 Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 20:19:47 -0500 From: george.nincehel...@gmail.com To: andrew_gluesenk...@yahoo.com CC: mudmal...@hotmail.com; texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Beck Ranch Cave Update The trails are heavily used by the residents. Flood damage means more money spent fixing the trails. Most of the debris I'm talking about is organic. It washes down the wet branch of the cave to the aquifer. Nature runs her course. However, if a grate were placed over the opening, the debris would tend to pile up and block the opening. That's the problem. George On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 8:05 PM, Andy Gluesenkamp wrote: I've visited the cave (legally) but not during a flood event. Most of the trash I saw in the cave was hand-delivered. Can you describe the situation? I don't see how damage to park trails have anything to do with whether the cave is gated or not but, hey, you're the engineer. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 27, 2012, at 7:59 PM, "George D. Nincehelser" wrote: Washing out of park trails for a start. I'm not talking about damage to a gate. Any gate I've seen would just plug up with debris, restricting water flow and bat access. Are you actually familiar with the situation? Have you been there when it is raining heavily and flooding? Have you been on any of the clean-up trips? If someone has a solution, I'd be happy to hear it. As a local resident, member of the MUD, and member of the TCC I'd be happy to champion one. If there is one. I know just putting up the typical bat-friendly gate over the opening isn't going to work. George On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 7:40 PM, Andy Gluesenkamp wrote: What damage? Isn't there a perimeter fence? What is going past the fence that would damage a gate? Are you saying that debris/trash ( now going in the ungated entrance) would be a greater problem if it didn't? Sent from my iPhone On Sep 27, 2012, at 7:34 PM, "George D. Nincehelser" wrote: Unfortuntely that's not a practical solution. Not unless the MUD is willing to clean out the entrance and repair the flood damage after every big storm. As a resident, I can tell you that's just not going to happen. As an engineer I can tell you there is no easy fix. George On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 7:29 PM, Andy Gluesenkamp wrote: Any gate must be maintained. Any cave in a dense residential area is an attractive nuisance.Gate the cave and keep the trash (literal and figurative) out. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 27, 2012, at 7:24 PM, "George D. Nincehelser" wrote: My house is less than a block away from the entrance, and I've thought about this problem for years. Lots of water and debris flow through the entrance, and it is sometimes completely submerged during heavy rains. It's a major drain for the area. What kind of bat-friendly grate would you recommend that wouldn't keep plugging up with debris and cause flooding as well as blocking bat access? George On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 3:23 PM, wesley s wrote: Wow Mike, Sure sounds like a decent bat friendly gate install would have saved you a great deal of public and caver goodwill and protected the cave a hell of a lot better. I hope other cave managers are taking note of the difficulties you are having and learning from them. Wes~ From: mikewaus...@austin.rr.com To: Texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 12:24:59 -0500 Subject: [Texascavers] Beck Ranch Cave Update Beck Ranch Cave Update In 1999, the Texas Cave Conservancy entered into a cave management agreement with the Brushy Creek Municipal Utility District. This is one of the few caves under TCC management that does not have a cave gate. The cave entrance was not gated in order for the bats to be able to enter and exit the cave. A high quality nine- foot tall iron fence was build to attempt to control access. Local teenagers were using it for a party cave. The fence allowed us to greatly reduce the party traffic so we could protect the cave. Today, locals continue to trespass and go into the cave. Texas cavers are going in without permission as well. Both the locals and the cavers have been confronted by law enforcement and issued citations for trespassing. In addition, the TCC has not been able to prevent the authorized caver groups from creating problems such as changing cloths in the parking lot of a public park. Cavers in their under
RE: [Texascavers] Beck Ranch Cave Update
How about a cube shaped gate. It would go vertical two feet then the top part would be bat friendly. Any debris would be trapped at the base and not block the top entrance part. There could also be a bottomless box type guard thing around the lock to prevent anyone from cutting the lock from the side. "Semper Exploro" Ryan MonjarasMaverick GrottoCowtown GrottoDFW GrottoUT Grotto SecretaryBexar GrottoGreater Houston GrottoTSATCMALost Oasis Preserve Manager (832)754-5778 List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 20:19:47 -0500 From: george.nincehel...@gmail.com To: andrew_gluesenk...@yahoo.com CC: mudmal...@hotmail.com; texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Beck Ranch Cave Update The trails are heavily used by the residents. Flood damage means more money spent fixing the trails. Most of the debris I'm talking about is organic. It washes down the wet branch of the cave to the aquifer. Nature runs her course. However, if a grate were placed over the opening, the debris would tend to pile up and block the opening. That's the problem. George On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 8:05 PM, Andy Gluesenkamp wrote: I've visited the cave (legally) but not during a flood event. Most of the trash I saw in the cave was hand-delivered. Can you describe the situation? I don't see how damage to park trails have anything to do with whether the cave is gated or not but, hey, you're the engineer. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 27, 2012, at 7:59 PM, "George D. Nincehelser" wrote: Washing out of park trails for a start. I'm not talking about damage to a gate. Any gate I've seen would just plug up with debris, restricting water flow and bat access. Are you actually familiar with the situation? Have you been there when it is raining heavily and flooding? Have you been on any of the clean-up trips? If someone has a solution, I'd be happy to hear it. As a local resident, member of the MUD, and member of the TCC I'd be happy to champion one. If there is one. I know just putting up the typical bat-friendly gate over the opening isn't going to work. George On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 7:40 PM, Andy Gluesenkamp wrote: What damage? Isn't there a perimeter fence? What is going past the fence that would damage a gate? Are you saying that debris/trash ( now going in the ungated entrance) would be a greater problem if it didn't? Sent from my iPhone On Sep 27, 2012, at 7:34 PM, "George D. Nincehelser" wrote: Unfortuntely that's not a practical solution. Not unless the MUD is willing to clean out the entrance and repair the flood damage after every big storm. As a resident, I can tell you that's just not going to happen. As an engineer I can tell you there is no easy fix. George On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 7:29 PM, Andy Gluesenkamp wrote: Any gate must be maintained. Any cave in a dense residential area is an attractive nuisance.Gate the cave and keep the trash (literal and figurative) out. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 27, 2012, at 7:24 PM, "George D. Nincehelser" wrote: My house is less than a block away from the entrance, and I've thought about this problem for years. Lots of water and debris flow through the entrance, and it is sometimes completely submerged during heavy rains. It's a major drain for the area. What kind of bat-friendly grate would you recommend that wouldn't keep plugging up with debris and cause flooding as well as blocking bat access? George On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 3:23 PM, wesley s wrote: Wow Mike, Sure sounds like a decent bat friendly gate install would have saved you a great deal of public and caver goodwill and protected the cave a hell of a lot better. I hope other cave managers are taking note of the difficulties you are having and learning from them. Wes~ From: mikewaus...@austin.rr.com To: Texascavers@texascavers.com List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 12:24:59 -0500 Subject: [Texascavers] Beck Ranch Cave Update Beck Ranch Cave Update In 1999, the Texas Cave Conservancy entered into a cave management agreement with the Brushy Creek Municipal Utility District. This is one of the few caves under TCC management that does not have a cave gate. The cave entrance was not gated in order for the bats to be able to enter and exit the cave. A high quality nine- foot tall iron fence was build to attempt to control access. Local teenagers were using it for a party cave. The fence allowed us to greatly reduce the party traffic so we could protect the cave. Today, locals continue to trespass and go into the cave. Texas cavers are going in without permission as well. Both the locals and the cavers have been confronted by law enforcement and issued citations for trespassing. In addition, the TCC has not been able to prevent the authorized caver groups from creating problems such a
[Texascavers] Lost Oasis Preserve Clean-up
There is a scheduled clean-up of Lost Oasis Cave Preserve for Sunday Sept. 16 at 10 A.M. Please bring chain saws, loppers and other brush clearing equipment. Lunch and refreshments will be provided and so will entry into the cave. If it is raining the clean-up will be canceled and rescheduled for a later date. Any questions please e-mail me back and if you are going contact me so I can get an estimate on how much food to buy. "Semper Exploro" Ryan MonjarasMaverick GrottoCowtown GrottoDFW GrottoUT Grotto SecretaryBexar GrottoGreater Houston GrottoTSATCMALost Oasis Preserve Manager (832)754-5778
[Texascavers] Lost Oasis Preserve Clean-up
There is a scheduled clean-up of Lost Oasis Cave Preserve for Sunday Sept. 16 at 10 A.M. Please bring chain saws, loppers and other brush clearing equipment. Lunch and refreshments will be provided and so will entry into the cave. If it is raining the clean-up will be canceled and rescheduled for a later date. Any questions please e-mail me back and if you are going contact me so I can get an estimate on how much food to buy. "Semper Exploro" Ryan MonjarasMaverick GrottoCowtown GrottoDFW GrottoUT Grotto SecretaryBexar GrottoGreater Houston GrottoTSATCMALost Oasis Preserve Manager (832)754-5778
[Texascavers] Lost Oasis Preserve Clean-up
There is a scheduled clean-up of Lost Oasis Cave Preserve for Sunday Sept. 16 at 10 A.M. Please bring chain saws, loppers and other brush clearing equipment. Lunch and refreshments will be provided and so will entry into the cave. If it is raining the clean-up will be canceled and rescheduled for a later date. Any questions please e-mail me back and if you are going contact me so I can get an estimate on how much food to buy. "Semper Exploro" Ryan MonjarasMaverick GrottoCowtown GrottoDFW GrottoUT Grotto SecretaryBexar GrottoGreater Houston GrottoTSATCMALost Oasis Preserve Manager (832)754-5778
RE: [Texascavers] Dirty old men
I'm getting sick of this with all the single sentence back and fort responses
and I'm sure others are as well. Lets please kill this thread and the other
related ones as well before anymore people unsubscribe from cavetex. If you you
want to reminisce of the glory days, do so in private e-mails with the other
old timers.
"Semper Exploro" Ryan MonjarasMaverick GrottoCowtown GrottoDFW GrottoUT Grotto
SecretaryBexar GrottoTSATCMA(832)754-5778
From: fh...@townandcountryins.com
To: ar...@austin.utexas.edu; texascavers@texascavers.com
List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 12:22:52 -0500
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Dirty old men
Most men who tell stories of personal
conquests specialize in fiction because if you can do it, you don’t need
to brag about it.
However, it can be entertaining to read of
other men’s fantasies.
F
From: Katherine Arens
[mailto:ar...@austin.utexas.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012
12:24 PM
To: Cave Tex
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Dirty
old men
Suggestion for the Caver -- a new column "Tales (Tails?) from the
Caver Campfire."
write your war stories down for publication. We will all know
they're fiction . . .
katie
Katherine Arens Office
Phones: (512) 232-6363
ar...@austin.utexas.edu Dept.
Phone: (512) 471-4123
Dept. of Germanic
StudiesFAX
(512) 471-4025
2505 University Ave, C3300 Bldg.Location:
Burdine 336
University of Texas at AustinOffice:
Burdine 320
Austin,
TX 78712-1088
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RE: [Texascavers] Dirty old men
I'm getting sick of this with all the single sentence back and fort responses
and I'm sure others are as well. Lets please kill this thread and the other
related ones as well before anymore people unsubscribe from cavetex. If you you
want to reminisce of the glory days, do so in private e-mails with the other
old timers.
"Semper Exploro" Ryan MonjarasMaverick GrottoCowtown GrottoDFW GrottoUT Grotto
SecretaryBexar GrottoTSATCMA(832)754-5778
From: fh...@townandcountryins.com
To: ar...@austin.utexas.edu; texascavers@texascavers.com
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 12:22:52 -0500
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Dirty old men
Most men who tell stories of personal
conquests specialize in fiction because if you can do it, you don’t need
to brag about it.
However, it can be entertaining to read of
other men’s fantasies.
F
From: Katherine Arens
[mailto:ar...@austin.utexas.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012
12:24 PM
To: Cave Tex
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Dirty
old men
Suggestion for the Caver -- a new column "Tales (Tails?) from the
Caver Campfire."
write your war stories down for publication. We will all know
they're fiction . . .
katie
Katherine Arens Office
Phones: (512) 232-6363
ar...@austin.utexas.edu Dept.
Phone: (512) 471-4123
Dept. of Germanic
StudiesFAX
(512) 471-4025
2505 University Ave, C3300 Bldg.Location:
Burdine 336
University of Texas at AustinOffice:
Burdine 320
Austin,
TX 78712-1088
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RE: [Texascavers] Dirty old men
I'm getting sick of this with all the single sentence back and fort responses
and I'm sure others are as well. Lets please kill this thread and the other
related ones as well before anymore people unsubscribe from cavetex. If you you
want to reminisce of the glory days, do so in private e-mails with the other
old timers.
"Semper Exploro" Ryan MonjarasMaverick GrottoCowtown GrottoDFW GrottoUT Grotto
SecretaryBexar GrottoTSATCMA(832)754-5778
From: fh...@townandcountryins.com
To: ar...@austin.utexas.edu; texascavers@texascavers.com
List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 12:22:52 -0500
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Dirty old men
Most men who tell stories of personal
conquests specialize in fiction because if you can do it, you don’t need
to brag about it.
However, it can be entertaining to read of
other men’s fantasies.
F
From: Katherine Arens
[mailto:ar...@austin.utexas.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012
12:24 PM
To: Cave Tex
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Dirty
old men
Suggestion for the Caver -- a new column "Tales (Tails?) from the
Caver Campfire."
write your war stories down for publication. We will all know
they're fiction . . .
katie
Katherine Arens Office
Phones: (512) 232-6363
ar...@austin.utexas.edu Dept.
Phone: (512) 471-4123
Dept. of Germanic
StudiesFAX
(512) 471-4025
2505 University Ave, C3300 Bldg.Location:
Burdine 336
University of Texas at AustinOffice:
Burdine 320
Austin,
TX 78712-1088
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.-
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[Texascavers] Need a new harness, any suggestions.
Looking to get a new caving harness to replace my rock climbing one. What is best, a GGG seat harness, CMI Cave Master, PMI Viper Harness, Singing Rock Harness, Petzl Super Avanti or Petzl Fractio. "Semper Exploro" Ryan MonjarasMaverick GrottoCowtown GrottoDFW GrottoUT GrottoBexar Grotto(832)754-5778
[Texascavers] Need a new harness, any suggestions.
Looking to get a new caving harness to replace my rock climbing one. What is best, a GGG seat harness, CMI Cave Master, PMI Viper Harness, Singing Rock Harness, Petzl Super Avanti or Petzl Fractio. "Semper Exploro" Ryan MonjarasMaverick GrottoCowtown GrottoDFW GrottoUT GrottoBexar Grotto(832)754-5778
[Texascavers] Need a new harness, any suggestions.
Looking to get a new caving harness to replace my rock climbing one. What is best, a GGG seat harness, CMI Cave Master, PMI Viper Harness, Singing Rock Harness, Petzl Super Avanti or Petzl Fractio. "Semper Exploro" Ryan MonjarasMaverick GrottoCowtown GrottoDFW GrottoUT GrottoBexar Grotto(832)754-5778
RE: [Texascavers] 2012 TSA Spring Convention *Save The Date*
Let's have a summer convention, preferably with a river or lake to cool down in. "Semper Exploro" Ryan MonjarasMaverick GrottoCowtown GrottoDFW GrottoUT GrottoBexar Grotto(832)754-5778 From: mark.al...@l-3com.com List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 12:12:19 -0600 To: germa...@aol.com; jerryat...@aol.com; ellie.tho...@gmail.com; tr...@sprynet.com CC: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: RE: [Texascavers] 2012 TSA Spring Convention *Save The Date* From by the by-laws, a.k.a, TSA Constitution: Article V: MEETINGS. At least three TSA meetings shall be held each calendar year. The time and place of all TSA meetings shall be announced through a regular publication of the TSA, or by electronic mail to all members of record. TSA meetings shall be called by the officers or by written petition of 20% of all TSA members. Since we’ve already had our three meetings for 2011, deciding when to schedule another one for 2012 can be done at the Spring Convention Business Meeting (or an hour before, as Stefan proposes. I always liked the way you think, Stefan!). As you can see, no specific dates or venues are specified. Mark From: Julia Germany [mailto:germa...@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 12:05 PM To: jerryat...@aol.com; ellie.tho...@gmail.com; tr...@sprynet.com Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 2012 TSA Spring Convention *Save The Date* Since the "winter" meeting was cancelled, and the by-laws were not changed to reflect having only two meetings a year, there needs to be a third meeting for 2011 before there is a first meeting for 2012 to be right with the by-laws. I haven't looked at the by-laws in while - do they state when the meetings must take place? As a reminder, when seeking grant funds, funders almost always ask for a copy of the by-laws, and may ask for copies of the official meeting minutes to make sure you are following the rules of your by-laws. julia -Original Message- From: JerryAtkin To: ellie.thoene ; trhli Cc: texascavers Sent: Wed, Nov 30, 2011 12:57 am Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 2012 TSA Spring Convention *Save The Date*That's all well and good, but the TSA Bylaws stipulate at least 3 membership meetings per year. Given that there will be a TSA meeting at the Spring Convention and in the Fall, when do the officers propose to hold another meeting to comply with the Bylaws ? Jerry. In a message dated 11/29/2011 5:29:20 P.M. Central Standard Time, ellie.tho...@gmail.com writes:Please see in the 2011 Fall Meeting Minutes Archive Page http://www.cavetexas.org/TSA/meetingminutes.html that "Alman asked if people think a Winter Business Meeting is really necessary since it is so close to the fall and spring meetings. A motion was made to cancel the Winter Business Meeting. Seconded and motion carried".
RE: [Texascavers] 2012 TSA Spring Convention *Save The Date*
Let's have a summer convention, preferably with a river or lake to cool down in. "Semper Exploro" Ryan MonjarasMaverick GrottoCowtown GrottoDFW GrottoUT GrottoBexar Grotto(832)754-5778 From: mark.al...@l-3com.com Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 12:12:19 -0600 To: germa...@aol.com; jerryat...@aol.com; ellie.tho...@gmail.com; tr...@sprynet.com CC: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: RE: [Texascavers] 2012 TSA Spring Convention *Save The Date* From by the by-laws, a.k.a, TSA Constitution: Article V: MEETINGS. At least three TSA meetings shall be held each calendar year. The time and place of all TSA meetings shall be announced through a regular publication of the TSA, or by electronic mail to all members of record. TSA meetings shall be called by the officers or by written petition of 20% of all TSA members. Since we’ve already had our three meetings for 2011, deciding when to schedule another one for 2012 can be done at the Spring Convention Business Meeting (or an hour before, as Stefan proposes. I always liked the way you think, Stefan!). As you can see, no specific dates or venues are specified. Mark From: Julia Germany [mailto:germa...@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 12:05 PM To: jerryat...@aol.com; ellie.tho...@gmail.com; tr...@sprynet.com Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 2012 TSA Spring Convention *Save The Date* Since the "winter" meeting was cancelled, and the by-laws were not changed to reflect having only two meetings a year, there needs to be a third meeting for 2011 before there is a first meeting for 2012 to be right with the by-laws. I haven't looked at the by-laws in while - do they state when the meetings must take place? As a reminder, when seeking grant funds, funders almost always ask for a copy of the by-laws, and may ask for copies of the official meeting minutes to make sure you are following the rules of your by-laws. julia -Original Message- From: JerryAtkin To: ellie.thoene ; trhli Cc: texascavers Sent: Wed, Nov 30, 2011 12:57 am Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 2012 TSA Spring Convention *Save The Date*That's all well and good, but the TSA Bylaws stipulate at least 3 membership meetings per year. Given that there will be a TSA meeting at the Spring Convention and in the Fall, when do the officers propose to hold another meeting to comply with the Bylaws ? Jerry. In a message dated 11/29/2011 5:29:20 P.M. Central Standard Time, ellie.tho...@gmail.com writes:Please see in the 2011 Fall Meeting Minutes Archive Page http://www.cavetexas.org/TSA/meetingminutes.html that "Alman asked if people think a Winter Business Meeting is really necessary since it is so close to the fall and spring meetings. A motion was made to cancel the Winter Business Meeting. Seconded and motion carried".
RE: [Texascavers] 2012 TSA Spring Convention *Save The Date*
Let's have a summer convention, preferably with a river or lake to cool down in. "Semper Exploro" Ryan MonjarasMaverick GrottoCowtown GrottoDFW GrottoUT GrottoBexar Grotto(832)754-5778 From: mark.al...@l-3com.com List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 12:12:19 -0600 To: germa...@aol.com; jerryat...@aol.com; ellie.tho...@gmail.com; tr...@sprynet.com CC: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: RE: [Texascavers] 2012 TSA Spring Convention *Save The Date* From by the by-laws, a.k.a, TSA Constitution: Article V: MEETINGS. At least three TSA meetings shall be held each calendar year. The time and place of all TSA meetings shall be announced through a regular publication of the TSA, or by electronic mail to all members of record. TSA meetings shall be called by the officers or by written petition of 20% of all TSA members. Since we’ve already had our three meetings for 2011, deciding when to schedule another one for 2012 can be done at the Spring Convention Business Meeting (or an hour before, as Stefan proposes. I always liked the way you think, Stefan!). As you can see, no specific dates or venues are specified. Mark From: Julia Germany [mailto:germa...@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 12:05 PM To: jerryat...@aol.com; ellie.tho...@gmail.com; tr...@sprynet.com Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 2012 TSA Spring Convention *Save The Date* Since the "winter" meeting was cancelled, and the by-laws were not changed to reflect having only two meetings a year, there needs to be a third meeting for 2011 before there is a first meeting for 2012 to be right with the by-laws. I haven't looked at the by-laws in while - do they state when the meetings must take place? As a reminder, when seeking grant funds, funders almost always ask for a copy of the by-laws, and may ask for copies of the official meeting minutes to make sure you are following the rules of your by-laws. julia -Original Message- From: JerryAtkin To: ellie.thoene ; trhli Cc: texascavers Sent: Wed, Nov 30, 2011 12:57 am Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 2012 TSA Spring Convention *Save The Date*That's all well and good, but the TSA Bylaws stipulate at least 3 membership meetings per year. Given that there will be a TSA meeting at the Spring Convention and in the Fall, when do the officers propose to hold another meeting to comply with the Bylaws ? Jerry. In a message dated 11/29/2011 5:29:20 P.M. Central Standard Time, ellie.tho...@gmail.com writes:Please see in the 2011 Fall Meeting Minutes Archive Page http://www.cavetexas.org/TSA/meetingminutes.html that "Alman asked if people think a Winter Business Meeting is really necessary since it is so close to the fall and spring meetings. A motion was made to cancel the Winter Business Meeting. Seconded and motion carried".
RE: [Texascavers] Certified Spelunkers in the news
A certified spelunker is still a spelunker, can't polish a turd. "Semper Exploro" Ryan MonjarasMaverick GrottoCowtown GrottoDFW GrottoUT GrottoBexar Grotto(832)754-5778 > To: texascavers@texascavers.com > From: dlocklea...@gmail.com > Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 20:59:26 + > Subject: [Texascavers] Certified Spelunkers in the news > > Certified Spelunkers are now searching for Kevin Eve who has been missing 6 > full days now. > > It will be an interesting story if they rescue him alive from a cave. > > David Locklear > Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®
RE: [Texascavers] Certified Spelunkers in the news
A certified spelunker is still a spelunker, can't polish a turd. "Semper Exploro" Ryan MonjarasMaverick GrottoCowtown GrottoDFW GrottoUT GrottoBexar Grotto(832)754-5778 > To: texascavers@texascavers.com > From: dlocklea...@gmail.com > Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 20:59:26 + > Subject: [Texascavers] Certified Spelunkers in the news > > Certified Spelunkers are now searching for Kevin Eve who has been missing 6 > full days now. > > It will be an interesting story if they rescue him alive from a cave. > > David Locklear > Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®
RE: [Texascavers] Certified Spelunkers in the news
A certified spelunker is still a spelunker, can't polish a turd. "Semper Exploro" Ryan MonjarasMaverick GrottoCowtown GrottoDFW GrottoUT GrottoBexar Grotto(832)754-5778 > To: texascavers@texascavers.com > From: dlocklea...@gmail.com > Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 20:59:26 + > Subject: [Texascavers] Certified Spelunkers in the news > > Certified Spelunkers are now searching for Kevin Eve who has been missing 6 > full days now. > > It will be an interesting story if they rescue him alive from a cave. > > David Locklear > Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®
RE: [Texascavers] Fwd: Cave Vandalism on the SyFy Channel
I saw that show and in an episode where he was searching for the talking cross, he claimed that a piece of draperie was an ancient cutting tool. It was at that point that I realized that this guy has no idea what he's doing. "Semper Exploro" Ryan MonjarasMaverick GrottoCowtown GrottoDFW GrottoUT GrottoBexar Grotto(832)754-5778 To: Texascavers@texascavers.com; floridacav...@yahoogroups.com; tag-...@hiddenworld.net; moca...@caver.net; moca...@lists.umsl.edu; greater_houston_gro...@yahoogroups.com; nmca...@caver.net Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 19:10:03 -0400 From: cavera...@aol.com Subject: [Texascavers] Fwd: Cave Vandalism on the SyFy Channel Pardon the cross-posting, but I just had this disturbing note from a friend in Florida. It looks likes this treasure-seeking (sic) show is as disrespectful and potentially destructive to cultrual heritage and archeology as it is to caves, so those should be additional points of condemnation. Roger Moore Greater Houston Grotto Houston, Texas -Original Message- From: caverarch To: Sent: Thu, Jul 21, 2011 6:01 pm Subject: Re: Cave Vandalism on the SyFy Channel You bet, Dale! Roger -Original Message- From: Dale To: cavera...@aol.com Sent: Wed, Jul 20, 2011 9:36 pm Subject: Cave Vandalism on the SyFy Channel Roger, S, I'm watching the new show Legend Quest on the SyFy Channel (absolutely awful show so far, by the way) and the host just crawled into a cave, knocking down stalagtites as he went. Maybe you or some of your caving friends should consider contacting SyFy about this? If nothing else to have them come down on the show's producers, who I am sure are independent. Dale
RE: [Texascavers] Fwd: Cave Vandalism on the SyFy Channel
I saw that show and in an episode where he was searching for the talking cross, he claimed that a piece of draperie was an ancient cutting tool. It was at that point that I realized that this guy has no idea what he's doing. "Semper Exploro" Ryan MonjarasMaverick GrottoCowtown GrottoDFW GrottoUT GrottoBexar Grotto(832)754-5778 To: Texascavers@texascavers.com; floridacav...@yahoogroups.com; tag-...@hiddenworld.net; moca...@caver.net; moca...@lists.umsl.edu; greater_houston_gro...@yahoogroups.com; nmca...@caver.net List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 19:10:03 -0400 From: cavera...@aol.com Subject: [Texascavers] Fwd: Cave Vandalism on the SyFy Channel Pardon the cross-posting, but I just had this disturbing note from a friend in Florida. It looks likes this treasure-seeking (sic) show is as disrespectful and potentially destructive to cultrual heritage and archeology as it is to caves, so those should be additional points of condemnation. Roger Moore Greater Houston Grotto Houston, Texas -Original Message- From: caverarch To: Sent: Thu, Jul 21, 2011 6:01 pm Subject: Re: Cave Vandalism on the SyFy Channel You bet, Dale! Roger -Original Message- From: Dale To: cavera...@aol.com Sent: Wed, Jul 20, 2011 9:36 pm Subject: Cave Vandalism on the SyFy Channel Roger, S, I'm watching the new show Legend Quest on the SyFy Channel (absolutely awful show so far, by the way) and the host just crawled into a cave, knocking down stalagtites as he went. Maybe you or some of your caving friends should consider contacting SyFy about this? If nothing else to have them come down on the show's producers, who I am sure are independent. Dale
RE: [Texascavers] Fwd: Cave Vandalism on the SyFy Channel
I saw that show and in an episode where he was searching for the talking cross, he claimed that a piece of draperie was an ancient cutting tool. It was at that point that I realized that this guy has no idea what he's doing. "Semper Exploro" Ryan MonjarasMaverick GrottoCowtown GrottoDFW GrottoUT GrottoBexar Grotto(832)754-5778 To: Texascavers@texascavers.com; floridacav...@yahoogroups.com; tag-...@hiddenworld.net; moca...@caver.net; moca...@lists.umsl.edu; greater_houston_gro...@yahoogroups.com; nmca...@caver.net List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 19:10:03 -0400 From: cavera...@aol.com Subject: [Texascavers] Fwd: Cave Vandalism on the SyFy Channel Pardon the cross-posting, but I just had this disturbing note from a friend in Florida. It looks likes this treasure-seeking (sic) show is as disrespectful and potentially destructive to cultrual heritage and archeology as it is to caves, so those should be additional points of condemnation. Roger Moore Greater Houston Grotto Houston, Texas -Original Message- From: caverarch To: Sent: Thu, Jul 21, 2011 6:01 pm Subject: Re: Cave Vandalism on the SyFy Channel You bet, Dale! Roger -Original Message- From: Dale To: cavera...@aol.com Sent: Wed, Jul 20, 2011 9:36 pm Subject: Cave Vandalism on the SyFy Channel Roger, S, I'm watching the new show Legend Quest on the SyFy Channel (absolutely awful show so far, by the way) and the host just crawled into a cave, knocking down stalagtites as he went. Maybe you or some of your caving friends should consider contacting SyFy about this? If nothing else to have them come down on the show's producers, who I am sure are independent. Dale
RE: [Texascavers] fuel cell chargers are here!
I don't think there selling them yet, there website says they're looking for distributors and that they're going to be affordable. "Semper Exploro" Ryan MonjarasMaverick GrottoCowtown GrottoDFW GrottoUT GrottoBexar Grotto(832)754-5778 From: mlmil...@gvtc.com To: texascavers@texascavers.com List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 23:05:49 -0600 Subject: [Texascavers] fuel cell chargers are here! I’ve been hearing about this kind of application for fuel cell technology for several years. Are there any cavers using these things yet? http://www.myfuelcell.se/products/powertrekk/ -Marvin
RE: [Texascavers] Two fatalities in Ellisons Cave
apparently they got tangled on rope http://www.wrcbtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=14019138 "Semper Exploro" Ryan MonjarasMaverick GrottoCowtown GrottoDFW GrottoUT GrottoBexar Grotto(832)754-5778 From: lkpa...@sbcglobal.net To: gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org; texascavers@texascavers.com List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 10:35:37 -0600 Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Two fatalities in Ellisons Cave http://www.jocosarblog.org/jocosarblog/2011/02/ga-bodies-of-two-students-found-in-ellisons-cave.html a little more information maybe From: Geary Schindel [mailto:gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org] Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 9:40 AM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] Two fatalities in Ellisons Cave A TAGNET post noted that there were two fatalities in Ellison’s Cave. Here is the link to an article in the Chattanooga Times Free Press. http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2011/feb/12/2-found-dead-walker-cave/ Geary
RE: [Texascavers] Gearing up for Sanctum?
the cheapest place in Austin for 3D is Regal Metropolitan 14 at $10 with showtimes at 7:05and 8 pm, which one would y'all rather go to P.s. the IMAX theater in Austin is not showing sanctum "Semper Exploro" Ryan MonjarasMaverick GrottoCowtown GrottoDFW GrottoUT GrottoBexar Grotto(832)754-5778 List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 03:32:11 -0800 From: lh_...@yahoo.com To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] Gearing up for Sanctum? If anyone wants to see Sanctum (all decked out in cave gear) tomorrow or if there is another day/time we can get a big group together, let me know. We've been talking about it on facebook or just reply on here. http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=182754305090666&index=1 peace2u.-LydiaUTgrotto
RE: [Texascavers] Sanctum in SA
if everyone sent a trip report, you'd be publishing a book "Semper Exploro" Ryan MonjarasMaverick GrottoCowtown GrottoDFW GrottoUT GrottoBexar Grotto(832)754-5778 > From: mark.al...@l-3com.com > Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 06:37:11 -0600 > To: kars...@gmail.com; texascavers@texascavers.com > Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Sanctum in SA > > > For those that are going to Honeycreek: > > > SEND A TRIP REPORT! > > > Otherwise, it's going to be a thin next issue! > > > > Thanks, > > Mark > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: Josh Rubinstein [mailto:kars...@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 12:34 AM > To: Cavers Texas > Subject: [Texascavers] Sanctum in SA > > For those who will not be in Honeycreek, > > > > - > Visit our website: http://texascavers.com > To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com > For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com >
[Texascavers] honey creek carpool
anyone going from San Marcos or austinites traveling through San Marcos that would like to carpool to honey creek please contact me off list "Semper Exploro" Ryan MonjarasMaverick GrottoCowtown GrottoDFW GrottoUT GrottoBexar Grotto(832)754-5778
RE: [Texascavers] Will new film "Sanctum" be the "Vertical Limit" of Caving?
we could even go caving before hand and show up covered in dirt "Semper Exploro" Ryan MonjarasMaverick GrottoCowtown GrottoDFW GrottoUT GrottoBexar Grotto(832)754-5778 List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 07:18:35 -0800 From: bellem...@yahoo.com To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Will new film "Sanctum" be the "Vertical Limit" of Caving? I think we should get a group of cavers together and go see it dressed up in gear, for fun. Kind of like the Harry Potter fanatics whenever a new Potter movie comes out. Leslie Bell --- On Sun, 1/23/11, Nico Escamilla wrote: From: Nico Escamilla Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Will new film "Sanctum" be the "Vertical Limit" of Caving? To: "Allan Cobb" Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Sunday, January 23, 2011, 10:02 AM Where's the "like" button here? Nico On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Allan Cobb wrote: Linda and I will go see the movie when it comes out. I am going to see a MOVIE not a DOCUMENTARY. I go to movies for entertainment and am happy to temporarily suspend reality for a little entertainment. Allan
[Texascavers] miners trapped in mine in Chile
More news on the 33 miners trapped in a mine since Aug. 5th, http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39558833/ns/world_news-americas "Semper Exploro" Ryan MonjarasMaverick GrottoCowtown GrottoDFW GrottoUT GrottoBexar Grotto(832)754-5778
RE: [Texascavers] cave related DVD
I saw in redbox, then decided it wasn't worth the dollar. "Semper Exploro" Ryan MonjarasMaverick GrottoCowtown GrottoDFW Grotto(832)754-5778 > From: stefan.crea...@arm.com > To: dlocklea...@gmail.com; texascavers@texascavers.com > Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 16:25:48 -0700 > Subject: RE: [Texascavers] cave related DVD > > *Only* $19.99!I wouldn't exactly call myself a cheap-skate but I'll wait > for it to be $9.99 in the 2nd hand stores. > > I heard it was rubbish. > > > - Stefan > > -Original Message- > From: dlocklea...@gmail.com [mailto:dlocklea...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 6:23 PM > To: texascavers@texascavers.com > Subject: [Texascavers] cave related DVD > > This probably old news. > > Fry's has the movie "Descent 2," in stock. > > It only cost $ 19.99 plus tax. > > I never saw it. > > > -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are > confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended > recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the > contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the > information in any medium. Thank you. > > - > Visit our website: http://texascavers.com > To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com > For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com >
[Texascavers] TAG
Anyone going to TAG this year? "Semper Exploro" Ryan MonjarasMaverick GrottoCowtown GrottoDFW Grotto(832)754-5778
[Texascavers] OT- I know cavers love looking at the stars
Threes going to be a planetary alignment and meteor shower on Thursday night, http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2010/05aug_perseids/ "Semper Exploro" Ryan MonjarasMaverick GrottoCowtown GrottoDFW Grotto(832)754-5778
[Texascavers] 2011 NSS convention
They got a promo video and now you can register. http://nss2011.com/info.htm Can't wait, looks awsome. "Semper Exploro" Ryan MonjarasMaverick GrottoCowtown GrottoDFW Grotto(832)754-5778
RE: [Texascavers] TCR sites
who you callin riff-raff, street rat... : ) "Semper Exploro" Ryan MonjarasMaverick GrottoCowtown GrottoDFW Grotto(832)754-5778 From: fh...@townandcountryins.com To: a...@gluesenkamp.com; ca...@caver.net; texascavers@texascavers.com List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2010 12:10:01 -0500 Subject: RE: [Texascavers] TCR sites Yeah, it tends to keep us riff raff away, Andy. Fritz From: Andy Gluesenkamp [mailto:andrew_gluesenk...@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 8:14 PM To: 'Bill Bentley'; Texascavers Mailing List; Fritz Holt Subject: RE: [Texascavers] TCR sites I think of it as more of a filter, Fritz. Andrew G. Gluesenkamp, Ph.D. 700 Billie Brooks Drive Driftwood, Texas 78619 (512) 799-1095 a...@gluesenkamp.com --- On Mon, 8/2/10, Fritz Holt wrote: From: Fritz Holt Subject: RE: [Texascavers] TCR sites To: "'Bill Bentley'" , "Texascavers Mailing List" Date: Monday, August 2, 2010, 5:38 PM Nothing against the western reaches except the time and expense to get there for us unfortunates in Houston, Dallas and points east. Fritz From: Bill Bentley [mailto:ca...@caver.net] Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 6:36 PM To: Texascavers Mailing List Subject: Re: [Texascavers] TCR sites What have you all got against the West? What is this not too far West requirement? Texas is a big state from El Paso to Texarkana ... :) Bill - Original Message - From: Stefan Creaser To: a...@gluesenkamp.com ; texascavers@texascavers.com ; Sheryl Rieck Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 2:39 PM Subject: RE: [Texascavers] TCR sites That’s as maybe, but it seems to violate the “not too far west” requirement…
RE: [Texascavers] personal - heading east
stay safe and good luck "Semper Exploro" Ryan MonjarasMaverick GrottoCowtown GrottoDFW Grotto(832)754-5778 > From: dlocklea...@gmail.com > Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 05:05:12 -0500 > To: texascavers@texascavers.com > Subject: [Texascavers] personal - heading east > > I decided to not take anybody's advice. > > I will be driving my mini-van in the direction towards Vermont. > > > I hope to leave the Houston area by 9 a.m. this morning ( Friday, July 30 ). > > I can stop along the way to pick up 1 convention bound caver in New > Orleans-LA, Meridian-MS, Gadsen-AL, Chattanooga-TN, > Roanoke-VA, Hattiesburg-MD, Scranton-PA, Albany-NY. > > I can pick up 3 cavers in upstate NY, if my car makes it that far. > That is my #1 concern, is that my old car won't > make that kind of drive. > > I have 2 cells on the road: Boost-mobile-: 281-960-0687 & Sprint: 281-995-8487 > > My Boost-mobile does walkie-talkie at: 143*575*346 > > I am travelling with at least 2 strangers I am picking up that I met > on Craigslist and dropping one off near Allentown, PA., > and in the other in Woodstock. We are going to be a travelling zoo > until I drop them off ( 2 cats, 1 dog and a couple of finches > in 2 bird cages ). > > Please forward this note to any caving list serves in TAG, Virginia, > our along the route above, or any cavers you know > looking for a ride along that route. > > It may not be a realistic goal to get to Essex Junction, but that is > the direction I am going to be driving in. > > David Locklear > caver in Fort Bend County > NSS # 27639 > > - > Visit our website: http://texascavers.com > To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com > For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com >
RE: [Texascavers] first cave trip
take her to cave day, http://texascaves.org/cave_day.html "Semper Exploro" Ryan MonjarasMaverick GrottoCowtown GrottoDFW Grotto(832)754-5778 From: fh...@townandcountryins.com To: david.mccl...@sbcglobal.net; texascavers@texascavers.com List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 12:37:19 -0500 Subject: RE: [Texascavers] first cave trip Dave, I only know of four Austin area caves and two are not suitable for a one year old. Just to say she has been in one, take her to Avery Ranch Cave or Dyes? Ranch Treasure Cave. Both are in Cedar Park and only about 100 feet long with no hiking as they are both in the middle of residential neighborhoods Avery is the better and easier of the two. Fritz From: David McClung [mailto:david.mccl...@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 12:32 PM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] first cave trip i got a 5 month old mini caver that will need to go caving for the first time and wondered if anybody has a suggestion on a good cave to go to. I will wait till shes maybe a year old or so. or maybe not. chow, dave mc _ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2
RE: [Texascavers] image of pond workers
nice one david, i was thinking it looks like mother earth's mother board "Semper Exploro" Ryan MonjarasMaverick GrottoCowtown GrottoDFW Grotto(832)754-5778 > From: dlocklea...@gmail.com > Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 11:38:41 -0500 > To: texascavers@texascavers.com > Subject: [Texascavers] image of pond workers > > http://www.divbyzero.com/eclipse/contests/2/tron_user.jpg > > - > Visit our website: http://texascavers.com > To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com > For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com > _ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3
RE: [Texascavers] Lighting up Cascade Caverns - Help a caver out ;)
Ill be there July 2nd to the 5th, hows that for advanced notice. By the way does San Antonio do any thing special for forth of July, namely the riverwalk "Semper Exploro" Ryan MonjarasMaverick GrottoCowtown GrottoDFW Grotto(832)754-5778 From: wo...@justfamily.org List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 14:31:04 -0500 To: mark.al...@l-3com.com CC: lh_...@yahoo.com; texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Lighting up Cascade Caverns - Help a caver out ;) Oh I understand, but I HAD to jibe you a bit. We've had enough volunteers that have experience in there, if someone wants to show up and help out, and need some direction on what to do, we'll arrange to get someone in there to help. I'm pretty sure the schedule is wide open to whenever you can go in and spend some time to help. It's a perfect Texas summer project, since the cave is cool enough comfortably work in. Charles On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 2:26 PM, wrote: True that, Charles. But, the other folks here would still like to know in advance so they can plan accordingly. Mark From: Charles Goldsmith [mailto:wo...@justfamily.org] Sent: Fri 6/25/2010 2:16 PM To: Lydia Hernandez Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Lighting up Cascade Caverns - Help a caver out ;) Lydia, I'll be onsite Saturday and Sunday as well, continuing the work I started in the Imagination room, I think most of the work is done in Storm Canyon and the Cathedral room.I think my next step was to put lights up in the ceiling in the Imagination room, along the fault line. Feel free to take a crack at that if you like, or where you feel comfortable. I won't arrive until Saturday afternoon, I'll be driving in from Dallas. I've also got 2 people showing up Sunday morning to help as well. And as Lydia stated in another email, we have lots of work left to do. Lights, resto, mud haulout (this will be a big job) and I think some surveying will be done as well. Mark, if you would show up to more than 1 grotto meeting a year, you'd know about trips :) Charles On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 1:49 PM, Lydia Hernandez wrote: At Cascade Caverns this weekend there will be 3 of us cavers, so far, helping install new lighting fixtures. If you have the time and want to show up, anytime, all help is welcome. There are spacious campgrounds and awesome showers. The caverns are really something to see, quite impressive and worth the drive out. Only 2 hours from Austin. Maybe we'll see you there ^_^ peace2u. -Lydia - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com _ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1
RE: [Texascavers] 52 Ways to Die in a Cave
60. touching a live wire for lights (thankfully it was low voltage and i only got shocked) "Semper Exploro" Ryan MonjarasMaverick GrottoCowtown GrottoDFW Grotto(832)754-5778 From: pitboun...@gmail.com List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 14:31:40 -0500 To: brewskyj...@rgv.rr.com CC: diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu; a...@oztotl.com; texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 52 Ways to Die in a Cave 59. heart attack from carrying too many rocks in your cave pack On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 2:00 PM, Bruce Anderson wrote: #58 Getting flat rocked by someone in the group. - Original Message - From: "Diana Tomchick" To: "Allan B. Cobb" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 1:59 PM Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 52 Ways to Die in a Cave How about 57. Getting "Puppied" at the shaft entrance of Honey Creek. Diana On May 25, 2010, at 11:45 AM, Allan B. Cobb wrote: The "52 Ways" list is here: http://www.scribd.com/doc/31358060/52-Ways-to-Die-in-a-Cave I can think of many more ways. Caving here in Belize I can add: 53. Getting eaten by a jaguar 54. Being ripped apart by a gibnut (or tepescuintle) in a crawlway 55. Interupting looters while they are looting Maya artifacts (I've been close to these.) There are other ways too. 56. Being blugeoned to death by your fellow cavers with rappel racks. (I've contemplated that a few times.) No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.437 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2895 - Release Date: 05/25/10 06:26:00 - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Diana R. Tomchick Associate Professor University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center Department of Biochemistry 5323 Harry Hines Blvd. Rm. ND10.214B Dallas, TX 75390-8816, U.S.A. Email: diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu 214-645-6383 (phone) 214-645-6353 (fax) - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com _ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2
RE: [Texascavers] Re: Google Earth at Honeycreek shaft campout
hey i can see my tent from up here : ) "Semper Exploro" Ryan MonjarasMaverick GrottoCowtown GrottoDFW Grotto(832)754-5778 > From: dlocklea...@gmail.com > Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 12:43:31 -0500 > To: texascavers@texascavers.com > Subject: [Texascavers] Re: Google Earth at Honeycreek shaft campout > > The satellite photo that shows the cavers camping at the shaft is > interesting. It makes you wonder whether they have video of the > campout also, along with recorded phone conversions. > > One of the vehicles is a white crew cab pickup.There appears to be > a white pop-up trailer camper near the shaft.And a small aluminum > travel trailer with some kind of structure behind it like a small > mobile home ?? There is a large red vehicle like a Powerwagon > schoolbus.And a grey supercab truck. > > There is a large white truck with a camper shell on the back?I > think I know who own's that one. > > There is a flat-bed trailer. > > There is a grey SUV with a sunroof, and a few small sedans. > > The tractor is parked near the shaft.There are 5 or 6 cavers > huddled around an area > about 40 feet from the shaft, maybe relaxing or eating dinner, as the > sun cast a long shadow > on them and the shaft towards the campfire. > > > > Maybe we need to start putting symbols on the roofs of our car, or > camouflaging our cars when camping. > > - > Visit our website: http://texascavers.com > To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com > For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com > _ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4
RE: [Texascavers] another caver almost dies
you would think caving was dangerous or something "Semper Exploro" Ryan MonjarasMaverick GrottoCowtown GrottoDFW Grotto(832)754-5778 > From: dlocklea...@gmail.com > Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 21:25:03 -0500 > To: texascavers@texascavers.com > Subject: [Texascavers] another caver almost dies > > http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/may/04/rescue-team-saves-caver-close-call/ > > - > Visit our website: http://texascavers.com > To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com > For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com > _ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3
RE: [Texascavers] re: CBSP
yes, the second weekend of every month From: back2scool...@hotmail.com To: jkenn...@batcon.org; bfra...@maverickgrotto.org; trog...@cavechat.org; mark.al...@l-3com.com CC: texascavers@texascavers.com List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 01:47:14 -0600 Subject: RE: [Texascavers] re: CBSP Is Colorado bend next weekend? From: Jim Kennedy [mailto:jkenn...@batcon.org] Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 9:17 AM To: Butch Fralia; Heather Tucek; mark.al...@l-3com.com Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: RE: [Texascavers] re: CBSP We moved the fire ring less than 100 feet, not 100 yards. The old map and directions are perfectly good. Jim, CBSP Project Coordinator From: Butch Fralia [mailto:bfra...@maverickgrotto.org] Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 9:11 AM To: 'Heather Tucek'; mark.al...@l-3com.com Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: RE: [Texascavers] re: CBSP If the camp is 100 yards further in, the map at: http://cavetexas.org/maps/cbsp.html should be satisfactory for the moment. I’ll someone will get me a GPS location for the approximate center of the camping area, I’ll update the online map with the correct coordinates and move the “pointer” to be correct. From: Heather Tucek [mailto:trog...@cavechat.org] Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 7:36 AM To: mark.al...@l-3com.com Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] re: CBSP It's maybe 100 yard further in from where it was before. You can see it from the old camping area. Not sure if a new map is really necessary... _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469227/direct/01/
RE: [Texascavers] Maverick Grotto - R.I.P.?
ill be there. same bat time, same bat place From: mark.al...@l-3com.com List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 14:24:14 -0600 To: bfra...@maverickgrotto.org; Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] Maverick Grotto - R.I.P.? Hey, all you Tarrant county cavers and points west of DFW! Butch and the Maverick Grotto, or what remains of it, could use your help. Butch has a good excuse, as he's had health issues the last year or so. Time for y'all to step up or else... Hopefully, not the latter. Thanks, Mark - Forwarded Message From: Keith D. Wheeland Sent: Tue, March 2, 2010 10:37:18 AM Subject: NSS IO INFO March 2 -- 3) List of IOs who haven't submitted their IO Report -- One day after the deadline for submitting the IO Annual Report, there were 46 delinquent IOs out of a total 254. One full month after the IO Annual Report was due, there are only four grottos that have not submitted an annual report. One of them has already told me that they are inactive. I'm assuming the others are also. If I don't hear from them shortly, I'll notify them officially that they too are inactive. Maverick Grotto (TX) (Notified me that they are inactive.) Again: This is not an official notice of inactivation. I will do that later if these grottos can not be revived. _ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469230/direct/01/
RE: [Texascavers] Re: filling plastic bags with oxygen and acetylene
thats how this chain got started right From: power_lou...@hotmail.com To: texascavers@texascavers.com List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 18:20:48 -0800 Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Re: filling plastic bags with oxygen and acetylene This guy looks like good potential for a Darwin Award. > Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 17:16:06 + > From: lmcn...@austin.rr.com > To: texascavers@texascavers.com; gi...@att.net > Subject: [Texascavers] Re: filling plastic bags with oxygen and acetylene > > > What a crazy idea to carry these bombs in his car! You need to do it > somewhere safe, like perhaps at a caver party on a Texas beach so when it > explodes prematurely it takes out only 5 eardrums! (Gill can explain.) > > > Gill Edigar wrote: > > short but relevant story> > A few years there was a news story of a guy in Denver (I think) who was > going to a party across town. Wanting to do something exciting for the party > > guests he decided that carbide bombs would be good entertainment. He had a > > cutting torch rig (Oxygen and Acetylene) at his shop so filled up > > a-half-dozen or so plastic bags with the "perfect mixture" and stuffed them > > into the back seat of his small car. He headed across town. Somewhere along > > the way one (if not all) of the bags ignited, blowing all the windows and > > doors out of the car and puffing the roof up and the sides out (I saw > > pictures of it). Aside from ear-drums and some superficial burns I think he > > was basically unhurt, but the kicker is that he was charged with > > manufacturing and transporting explosive--both felonies under federal law. > > And I think he missed the party, too. > > > > --Ediger > > > - > Visit our website: http://texascavers.com > To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com > For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com > _ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469230/direct/01/
RE: [Texascavers] FS - Bat houses - 2 fer
the website is actually www.cedercide.com heres the link- http://www.cedarcidestore.com/GROUNDSPESTCONTROL.html > From: wa5...@peoplepc.com > To: Texascavers@texascavers.com > Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 19:11:08 -0600 > CC: b.r...@cedarcide.com > Subject: [Texascavers] FS - Bat houses - 2 fer > > Hi boys and girls! > > While doing a fill-er-up I saw a sign at this establishment that read > > "Bat Houses - buy one get one free" > > I drove across the street to the company and chatted with a very pretty > lady and she showed me the very nice very well built bat houses. She > also had the data from BCI. Contact Bretney at www.cedarside.com > They are located in Old Town Sping ... she said they would ship. > > ~F~ > > - > Visit our website: http://texascavers.com > To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com > For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com > _ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469228/direct/01/
RE: [Texascavers] caving and insurance
thats only if its a student organization like the geology club, but if an individual student wants to go to CBSP then that persons regular insurance would cover it if that person got injured > Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 23:40:21 -0600 > From: dlocklea...@gmail.com > To: texascavers@texascavers.com > Subject: [Texascavers] caving and insurance > > When I was in college ( mid 80's ), if we wanted to go on a caving > trip, our biggest issue > was where to find someone with a car. > > It seems now, all college kids have cars, but their big issue seems to > be dealing with red tape. > > According to the web-site below, students who participate in > "dangerous activities like camping" are required to purchase "special > event medical insurance." > > http://ss.utpb.edu/student-life/student-travel/ > > I doubt we ever tried to get the university to loan us a van. That > idea either never crossed our minds, or we could not have imagined > them loaning it to us. Years later, I saw the A.S.S. > with a university van parked near the entrance of Palmito up above the > town of Bustamante. > > David Locklear > > - > Visit our website: http://texascavers.com > To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com > For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com > _ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390710/direct/01/
RE: [Texascavers] cave like house.....
at the end of the hobbit bilbo was rich List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 14:56:26 -0600 From: tbsam...@verizon.net To: muviduder...@hotmail.com CC: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: RE: [Texascavers] cave like house. Es para los ricos.. no es para los pobres. Jan 22, 2010 06:17:11 PM, muviduder...@hotmail.com wrote: it reminds me of the bag end from "the hobbit" List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 12:33:50 -0800 From: jpbrook...@sbcglobal.net To: Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] cave like house. http://www.designboom.com/weblog/cat/9/view/8827/search-and-cma-villa-vals.html Here is an interesting cave like house Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. Get it now. - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com _ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390710/direct/01/
RE: [Texascavers] cave like house.....
it reminds me of the bag end from "the hobbit" List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 12:33:50 -0800 From: jpbrook...@sbcglobal.net To: Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] cave like house. http://www.designboom.com/weblog/cat/9/view/8827/search-and-cma-villa-vals.html Here is an interesting cave like house _ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390708/direct/01/
[Texascavers] not cave related but i know theres plenty of veterans in here
this was sent to me through my squadron and im trying to get it to as many vets as i can. oorah! During Veteran’s Day week many businesses offer discounts to military members, retirees, and other veterans. Below are a few that have made it to my desk. Please forward me any other opportunities you hear about. Proof of service is often required such as a military or retiree ID card, DD Form 214, or VA card, so be prepared if you are asked. Also I recommend you call ahead, because some locations may not participate. FYI for you veterans, if you would like to have a VA card, simply register at your local VA Medical Center (with your DD-Form 214), and you can receive a photo ID card. Stein Marts in the DFW area will be giving a 10% additional discount to all service members on November 10th and 11th. Go to www.steinmart.com to find a store near you. Cabela's nationwide is offering employee pricing on November 11th and 12th to all veterans, active duty, reservists, law enforcement, and fire/ems services. You will need to present your ID to receive a "hometown heroes" coupon at the door. Some restrictions apply to this discount. Applebees is offering a free select entree at participating stores on Wednesday, November 11, 2009 with active/reserve/retired ID card. http://www.applebees.com/vetsday/ Golden Corral's Military Appreciation dinner is scheduled for Monday, November 16, 2009, from 5 to 9 pm in all Golden Corral restaurants nationwide. http://www.goldencorral.com/military/ McCormick & Schmick’s Seafood Restaurants across the country are offering a complimentary entree from a special menu to the Veterans who have served in war and peace. This offer is only for Sunday, November 8th. Go to http://www.mccormickandschmicks.com/featured-promotion/Veterans-Appreciation Day.aspx to find a location near you. Pizza UNO's is offering a free entrée or pizza (with the purchase of an equal value item) to all veterans and current servicemembers. This is only on Veteran's Day, November 11th. You just need to be in uniform or present a picture or ID of you in uniform. The Home Depot is offering all active duty personnel, reservists, retired military, veterans and their immediate family members a 10% discount off their purchases in honor of Veteran’s Day. The offer is valid on purchases of up to $2,000. Some exclusions apply. The promotion usually lasts for one week prior to Veterans Day, so call ahead to verify the days. Starting Summer 2009, Lowe’s now offers a year-round 10 percent discount for all active, reserve, honorably discharged, retired military personnel, and their immediate family members. The offer is valid on purchases of up to $5,000. Some exclusions apply. _ Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurants&form=MFESRP&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_MFESRP_Local_MapsMenu_Resturants_1x1
RE: [Texascavers] a bat related video clip
i believe it makes fun of the lengthy parliamentary process where every little thing has to be voted on, in that aspect i found it very funny, the bat was just something random, it could have been a flying squirrel and the script wouldn't have changed much From: dlocklea...@gmail.com List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 23:27:51 -0500 To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] a bat related video clip I think the makers of the video clip below have an audience of peoplewho enjoy watching the "Dumb & Dumber" type movies. ( recommend that you not watch it, but read below ) http://www.theonion.com/content/video/breaking_news_bat_loose_in Synopsis: A parody of 3 councilmen arguing about something irrelevant, when a bat flies into the session. I can't understand where they found actors/directors/animators with enough spare time to film this clip ? Why did LG pay for advertising on this clip? Does that make you want to buy LG ? David Locklear _ Windows 7: It works the way you want. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen2:102009
RE: [Texascavers] Rethinking the delete button
hear, hear!!! List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 19:45:19 -0500 From: jswhite1...@gmail.com To: stefan.crea...@arm.com CC: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Rethinking the delete button I’ve read this thread with interest, consternation, and amusement all bundled up together. Back when this mailing list was “CaveTex,” I spent a year (and then some) as its administrator and moderator. I inherited the job from my dad, who just got plain tired of trying to keep up with Luddites and flamers and headaches from the list’s various hosting services. Here’s what I think, for what it’s worth. The “me-toos” and one-liners are indeed a nice campfire, sociable kind of response. You guys exist in a rare community. I’ve seen the old-timers take care of each other in ways that just don’t happen in conventional communities and families, and I feel blessed—albeit in a very non-religious, non-denominational way. You rely on each other for amusement, and you work together and learn together. I work closely with another Caver-offspring in a 40-hour/week bureaucratic environment. We marvel regularly at what a great thing it was to be raised by our crazy parents and their friends. In most cases, you know you can count on each other to care about important things in the same ways—family, friends, the land, the caves, the knowledge…your own lives. Use the Delete key as you see fit and keep your impatience to yourselves. If you really want to be business-minded, be cautious with your subject-lines. Use important first words: Trip Report, Work Weekend, Action Required, whatever. But don’t disparage each other for brevity or lack of brilliance. Gil Edigar can write an essay that would make any of us weep. Ted Samsel can make me laugh so hard I fear I will pee myself from a single line. But every non-stellar rejoinder or mundane reply meant something to the person on the other end who hit “send.” Respect that and appreciate it. On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Stefan Creaser wrote: Have you considered printing double sided? I’ve left the history so you can check if this works… Cheers, Stefan From: Simon Newton [mailto:csnew...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 10:29 AM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] delete button I have my secretary print all my emails to paper, so I'd prefer 1 page text minimum (Times New Roman, 10 pt font). Also, if you could remove the history chain at the bottom this would save a lot of paper. Thanks in advance for your compliance on this matter, Simon -- Forwarded message -- From: Fofo To: texascavers List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 08:31:40 -0700 Subject: Re: [Texascavers] delete button Hi! I use Mozilla's Thunderbird both in the office and my laptop. I know, it's a throwback, now that everything is online, but you can set it up to pretty much do whatever you want: leave messages on server, delete messages from server, delete only the ones that you delete, have messages delivered directly to specific folders, group messages by thread, etc. It has a pretty decent junk mail filter, and setting it up is easy. Even in slow connections, usually I don't even notice when messages are downloaded (unless it's the first time of the day and there are several big files to download, and for really bad connections you can put a limit on the size of files to download). I always have the preview panel on, and it literally often takes less than one second to read a message (especially short replies), delete them and move on to the next one. OK, 162 words. Clear to go! -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you. _ Get back to school stuff for them and cashback for you. http://www.bing.com/cashback?form=MSHYCB&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_MSHYCB_BackToSchool_Cashback_BTSCashback_1x1
RE: [Texascavers] Re: delete button
you know were all going to forget this in less than a week and well be back to incomplete paragraphs, ive already got the ball rolling >: ) From: imoca...@comcast.net To: texascavers@texascavers.com List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 13:09:13 -0400 Subject: [Texascavers] Re: delete button >If you don't have at least a couple of complete sentences of new and >interesting material to add, how about not replying... Aw, c'mon, Bill! Some of those one-liners are fun(ny)! (I liked Heather's!) Maybe a better solution for you is a daily digest. Then you scan scoot right past the short posts, and delete the entire day's drivel with a single click! Alex -- Alex Sproul NSS 8086RL/FE NSS Webmaster - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com _ Windows Live: Make it easier for your friends to see what you’re up to on Facebook. http://windowslive.com/Campaign/SocialNetworking?ocid=PID23285::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:SI_SB_facebook:082009
