[tw] Re: PublishMacro - problem exporting unicode font to HTML

2009-04-03 Thread Daniel Baird

I'm curious about what PublishMacro does to junk unicode, but am
slightly too lazy to actually find the source for PublishMacro -- can
someone link it for me?

;Danbiel

On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 8:21 AM, Måns  wrote:
>
> Hi Sumangalo
>
> I gave up on PublishMacro for the same reason.
> I'm using SnapshotPlugin (http://www.tiddlytools.com/#SnapshotPlugin)
> for printing instead.
>
> I can't use the html-snapshots alone - it doesn't support special
> characters either.
> Here's what I wrote about the htmlsnapshotfunction:
> http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki/browse_thread/thread/f89966537459852f/757ef637ea288892?q=#757ef637ea288892
>
> When you choose print with snapshot plugin the output is directed to a
> new browser tab/window instead of saving it to a file. In addition,
> the print dialog for that tab/window is automatically invoked. If you
> choose not to print - you can choose to save the static html as a file
> with the correct characters... (be carefull not to overwrite the
> original TW - as it has the same title!!)
> This was my workaround - hope you find a better solution to your
> problem.
>
> Regards Måns Mårtensson
>
> On 29 Mar., 23:24, Sumangalo  wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I'm using the PublishMacro, and I am trying to publish tiddlers where
>> I have used common unicode characters (ā, ī, ñ etc.).  The resulting
>> HTML pages display a little box in place of the unicode characters
>> used in tiddlywiki.
>>
>> I experimented in MS Word, and it looks like the box is not covering
>> up characters that a font change could fix; it looks like PublishMacro
>> is actually replacing unicode characters with a box.
>>
>> Would anyone know how to export tiddlers with unicode characters to
>> HTML using PublishMacro?
>>
>> Thanks very much,
>> Sumangalo
> >
>



-- 
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I've tried going to the XHTML  a few times, but it's always closed.

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[tw] Re: Auto append tiddlers

2009-04-03 Thread Anthony Muscio
Why do you want them to be physically contained in one tiddler ?

It looks to me like you want this feature, as a solution to another problem
or solution you have developed, that you have not told us about.

What is it you are going to do with this single tiddler once it is combined,
that you can't do if you have used the embedded tiddler script Or a
ForEachTiddler that displays the content of every tiddler with it's title as
their tag.

One way, you could do what you want with a procedural difference is to have
a new tiddler command that uses the previous tiddler as it's source content.

There are a number of ways you could archive the equivalent to your request
but without knowing why I would only be guessing.


TonyM

If you have not found an easy way to do it with TiddlyWiki, you have missed
something.
www.tiddlywiki.com



On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 10:15, omgitsakitty  wrote:

>
> > First, install this plugin:
> >  http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#InlineJavascriptPlugin
> > and this inline script:
> >  http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#EmbedTiddlers
> >
> > Then, in the tiddler named [[04/03/2009]], you can write:
> >< though.  I need the information of the different tiddlers tagged
> "04/03/2009" in one, single tiddler, not just links to them.  I need
> the information physically there.
>
>  If you cannot think of something that can do that, what you have
> provided will do.
>
> Thank you for your help!
> >
>

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[tw] Refresh every hour (containing a transcluded tiddler)

2009-04-03 Thread Mike

I have a  (PageTemplate) containing a <>
I use the div to show (3) days of upcoming reminders - any way to
refresh the div / tiddler hourly?

Thanks,

Mike
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[tw] Re: Error in doSync: false

2009-04-03 Thread rouilj

On Mar 23, 5:39 pm, FND  wrote:
> > FND, would you like a copy of it to debug?
>
> Can you create a minimal test case with steps for reproducing the
> problem? (Also see my previous post.)

FND I created a minimal test case a couple of weeks ago and sent you
an link
to it using the reply to author mechanism in google groups. Did you
get the
link or the followup emails?

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[tw] Re: FR: YourSearchPlugin search button - add style please

2009-04-03 Thread RA

Same applies to searchField.

On Apr 3, 4:31 pm, RA  wrote:
> Default search macro adds searchButton style to the button, but the
> plugin doesn't. Please add. Thanks.
>
> --R
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[tw] FR: YourSearchPlugin search button - add style please

2009-04-03 Thread RA

Default search macro adds searchButton style to the button, but the
plugin doesn't. Please add. Thanks.

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[tw] Re: Auto append tiddlers

2009-04-03 Thread omgitsakitty

> First, install this plugin:
>  http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#InlineJavascriptPlugin
> and this inline script:
>  http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#EmbedTiddlers
>
> Then, in the tiddler named [[04/03/2009]], you can write:
>    

[tw] LoadTiddlersPlugin and special characters??? (Maybe a request?? - if it's feasible at all??)

2009-04-03 Thread Måns

I really would like to use LoadTiddlersPlugin - but it changes/
translates my Danish characters in tiddler titles and text into crappy
reminicenses of the originals...
Ex:
Lærerinitialer is interpreted as:LærerInitialer

There are problems with all instances of the characters: æ ø and å

It's the same problem with SnapShotPlugin - It's a marvelous tool - in
English - but I can't use the snapshot to file function because of a
similar behaviour...

If it's just me having these problems (...come on - there must be a
german or swede in the forum, who experiences similar malbehavior )-
I'm sure Mr Shulman can find better things to concentrate on...

Must I use ImportTiddlers plugin not to ruin the text in tiddlers?
If that's a fact - is there some way I can make a macrobutton which
invokes ImportTiddlersPlugin functions in a similar fashion??? - I
need to be able to specify an Url and tiddlers filtered by tags and
automatic "look-for-changes- and ask-before-overwrite"-behaviour...

YS Måns Mårtensson


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[tw] Re: Auto append tiddlers

2009-04-03 Thread Eric Shulman

> I have my wiki set to auto-tag with the date the tiddler is created.
> So I have this tiddler.  It is called TestTiddle.  It is tagged with
> 04/03/2009 - today's date.  What I have been trying to find is a plug-
> in or a macro that will take any tiddler tagged "04/03/2009" and parse
> it together under one tiddler with the tag as the tiddler title.  So
> when I click on [[04/03/2009]] it will bring up TestTiddle followed by
> anything else tagged with 04/03/2009.
>
> Any suggestions on what would do this?

First, install this plugin:
  http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#InlineJavascriptPlugin
and this inline script:
  http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#EmbedTiddlers

Then, in the tiddler named [[04/03/2009]], you can write:
   <>

enjoy,
-e
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[tw] Auto append tiddlers

2009-04-03 Thread omgitsakitty

So I've been scratching my head trying to figure out how to get a
tagged tiddler to append itself to a tiddler with the tag name.  For
example:

I have my wiki set to auto-tag with the date the tiddler is created.
So I have this tiddler.  It is called TestTiddle.  It is tagged with
04/03/2009 - today's date.  What I have been trying to find is a plug-
in or a macro that will take any tiddler tagged "04/03/2009" and parse
it together under one tiddler with the tag as the tiddler title.  So
when I click on [[04/03/2009]] it will bring up TestTiddle followed by
anything else tagged with 04/03/2009.

Any suggestions on what would do this?

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[tw] Re: Generic floating tiddler? (E.g a menu, to save real estate)

2009-04-03 Thread Mike

Hover Menu (Lewcid) and Movable Panels (TiddlyTools) come to
mind . . .
I have seen some customized TW's with both of the above & combining
with sliders you might be able to create what you are looking for.

Mike

On Apr 3, 12:34 pm, Eric Shulman  wrote:
> > In e.g Windows and Mac, you have the bars typically at the bottom that
> > (depending on settings) can appear when touching the edge of the
> > window, but otherwise sink back and "disappear". A floating tiddler
> > with e.g an otherwise bulky mindmap-type menu could appear when e.g
> > the top or right edge of the browser window is touched.
>
> Although it's not exactly the same what you are seeking, and only
> works for the top edge, perhaps placing a slider directly in your
> [[PageTemplate]] would be sufficient for your needs.  Try putting this
> line at the top of the template:
>
> 
>
> Then, create a tiddler called [[TopStuff]] with whatever content you
> want.  Clicking the slider label at the top of the page opens the
> slider, displaying the content from TopStuff.
>
> enjoy,
> -e
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[tw] Re: Making the MainMenu left justified with some entries indented

2009-04-03 Thread Tom

Eric, that really helps.

OK, this is now in the MainMenu:
{{leftjustify{[[Test1]]}}}
{{indent{[[Test2]]}}}
{{indent{[[Test3]]}}}
{{indent{[[Test4]]}}}
{{leftjustify{[[Test5]]}}}

And I used the display:block; option in the CSS code as you suggested
below.

The result looks like this:
Test1

   Test2

   Test3

   Test4

Test5

... double spaced...

So, I coded the MainMenu as follows:

{{leftjustify{[[Test1]]}}}{{indent{[[Test2]]}}}{{indent{[[Test3]]}}}
{{indent{[[Test4]]}}}
{{leftjustify{[[Test5]]}}}

...which gave me:

Test1
   Test2
   Test3
   Test4

Test5

Which is what I was looking for...

Thank you again for being so extraordinarily responsive!

Tom


On Apr 3, 1:24 pm, Eric Shulman  wrote:
> > {{leftjustify{[[Test1]]}}}
> > {{indent{[[Test2]]}}}
> > What I get in the mainmenuis right justified Test1 and a second
> > line, Test2, also right justified.
>
> {{classname{this is a SPAN}}}
>
> {{classname{
> this is a DIV}}}
>
> The extents (dimensions) of a SPAN (inline element) are only as big as
> the content inside it.  However, the extents of a DIV (block element)
> will go all the way across the whole container (e.g., the MainMenu).
> Thus, text-alignment CSS (left/center/right/justify) will only work
> properly if applied to a DIV (or a SPAN with style='display:block')
>
> Try adding "display:block;" to your CSS rules:
>
> .leftjustify{ text-align:left; display:block; }
> .indent{ text-align:left; margin-left:1em; display:block; }
>
> Alternatively, you could leave the CSS as-is and just write:
>
> {{leftjustify{
> [[Test1]]}}}
> {{indent{
> [[Test2]]}}}
>
> enjoy,
> -e
> Eric Shulman
> TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios
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[tw] Re: Compilation/comparison for menu / tree / mindmap TW apps

2009-04-03 Thread MobileLibrary



On Apr 3, 3:54 pm, Amzg  wrote:
> Please help completing the following for a compiled comparison over
> apps that generates an overview or representation for all or several
> related tiddlers (any established term for this?)
> A typical application for these could be as, or instead of, a menu.

Project Cecily (Jeremy Ruston)
http://www.osmosoft.com/cecily
A zooming user interface for TW. Alas, it runs still only on WebKit
3.1 (and above) and Firefox 3.1 (and above).

GeoTiddlywiki (Jon Robson)
http://www.jonrobson.me.uk/verticals/geotw/index.html
Display geotagged content on a google-style map.


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[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki plugin: Call WebService

2009-04-03 Thread Eric Shulman

> Here's an inline script that will do the job...

Revised:
* simplified the code
* use jQuery instead of regular expressions to extract XML values
-


loadRemoteFile(
'http://www.swanandmokashi.com/HomePage/WebServices/
QuoteOfTheDay.asmx/GetQuote',
function(status,place,txt,url,x){
var quote=jQuery(txt).find('QuoteOfTheDay').text();
var author=jQuery(txt).find('Author').text();
wikify('%0\n%1'.format([quote,author]),place);
},
place
);



enjoy,
-e
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TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios
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[tw] Re: Generic floating tiddler? (E.g a menu, to save real estate)

2009-04-03 Thread Eric Shulman

> In e.g Windows and Mac, you have the bars typically at the bottom that
> (depending on settings) can appear when touching the edge of the
> window, but otherwise sink back and "disappear". A floating tiddler
> with e.g an otherwise bulky mindmap-type menu could appear when e.g
> the top or right edge of the browser window is touched.

Although it's not exactly the same what you are seeking, and only
works for the top edge, perhaps placing a slider directly in your
[[PageTemplate]] would be sufficient for your needs.  Try putting this
line at the top of the template:



Then, create a tiddler called [[TopStuff]] with whatever content you
want.  Clicking the slider label at the top of the page opens the
slider, displaying the content from TopStuff.

enjoy,
-e

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[tw] Re: Making the MainMenu left justified with some entries indented

2009-04-03 Thread Eric Shulman

> {{leftjustify{[[Test1]]}}}
> {{indent{[[Test2]]}}}

> What I get in the main menu is right justified Test1 and a second
> line, Test2, also right justified.

{{classname{this is a SPAN}}}

{{classname{
this is a DIV}}}

The extents (dimensions) of a SPAN (inline element) are only as big as
the content inside it.  However, the extents of a DIV (block element)
will go all the way across the whole container (e.g., the MainMenu).
Thus, text-alignment CSS (left/center/right/justify) will only work
properly if applied to a DIV (or a SPAN with style='display:block')

Try adding "display:block;" to your CSS rules:

.leftjustify{ text-align:left; display:block; }
.indent{ text-align:left; margin-left:1em; display:block; }

Alternatively, you could leave the CSS as-is and just write:

{{leftjustify{
[[Test1]]}}}
{{indent{
[[Test2]]}}}

enjoy,
-e
Eric Shulman
TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios
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[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki plugin: Call WebService

2009-04-03 Thread Eric Shulman

> What we need is the services of someone like Eric Shulman to make it
> anything like useful - by that I mean, the call really needs to be
> sited directly in the tiddler and the returned results need to
> presented (i.e. mashed up) in some kind of sensible TW kinda way.

Here's an inline script that will do the job...



// server location
var url='http://www.swanandmokashi.com/HomePage/WebServices/
QuoteOfTheDay.asmx/GetQuote';

// handle response from server
var callback=function(status,place,txt,url,x){
var match=/(.*)<\/QuoteOfTheDay>/g.exec(txt);
if (match) var quote=match[1]; // extract quote from XML
var match=/(.*)<\/Author>/g.exec(txt);
if (match) var author=match[1]; // extract author from XML
var fmt='%0\n%1';
wikify(fmt.format([quote,author]),place);
};

// do it!
loadRemoteFile(url,callback,place);



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-e
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[tw] Re: Does FF3 save cookies or not?

2009-04-03 Thread Mike

Yeah, we are only using (2) TW - Project Notes & Phone Directory - so
Your situation is significantly more more complicated. :(
This site may be helpful. . .
http://mozilla.gunnars.net/firefox_help_firefox_cookie_tutorial.html

Good Luck,
Mike


On Apr 3, 9:20 am, roger  wrote:
> Mike,
> You're correct, sadly that's not the answer I'm looking.
>
> I am using SetUserNamePlugin and have it set up to automatically
> prompt the user for their name when the TW opens if the name is set to
> YourName.  I had to set it up that way because I am also using the
> TiddlyLock plugin.  With TiddlyLock, if you start to edit a TW with
> the user name set to YourName, then the TW becomes locked by
> YourName.
>
> So if I force SetUserNamePlugin to check the value of the user name
> when the TW is loaded, that avoids problems if the user needs to edit
> the TW as SetUserName and TiddlyLock don't bump into each other when
> the TW is put into edit mode.
>
> Unfortunately, if I can't resolve the cookie saving issue, then every
> user will be getting prompted for their user name on every TW every
> time it's pulled up.  We use hundreds of TW files in our office, so
> it's not an insignificant annoyance if the UserName prompt has to be
> dealt with every time.
>
> I still don't understand how to set the cookies exception for
> localhost, which I'm hopeful might be a solution, but I'm not overly
> optimistic that it will.
>
> ~Roger
>
> On Apr 2, 11:50 am, Mike  wrote:
>
> > May not be the answer you are looking for,  but I had a similar
> > problem on a multi user TW and I 
> > installedhttp://www.tiddlytools.com/#SetUserNamePlugin
> > Prompting for User name a the start of the document
>
> > Mike
>
> > On Apr 2, 8:05 am, Ken Girard  wrote:
>
> > > In my home environment I am having no problem with cookies in a 2.5.0
> > > TW on Firefox 3.1b3.
> > > It saves my userName and various configs, right down to having the
> > > options panel open.
> > > But, I just realized that this cookie might be also what is causing my
> > > cookies to persist for 2.4.1 TW files.
> > > Interesting as I'd never tried to think of it that way before.
>
> > > Ken Girard
>
> > > On Apr 1, 6:37 pm, roger  wrote:
>
> > > > FND,
> > > > Yes, I've been to that link a few times just trying to make sure I
> > > > correctly understood what was being communicated.
>
> > > > Hmmm, well I guess it doesn't matter so much why FF3 is playing nice
> > > > with our 2.2.5 files, it's the fact that I can't save the txtUserName
> > > > cookie for the ver. 2.4.1 files that I need to fix.
>
> > > > Will the localhost URL work for the situation I described?  According
> > > > to the wiki:
> > > > "using a localhost URL (e.g. file://localhost/home/user/TiddlyWiki.html
> > > > instead of file:///home/user/TiddlyWiki.html) - that way a cookie
> > > > exception can be added for localhost"
>
> > > > But, how do I add a cookie exception for localhost?
>
> > > > ~ Roger
>
> > > > On Apr 1, 12:27 pm, FND  wrote:
>
> > > > > > Why does the txtUserName cookie work fine in FF3 with ver 2.2.5 of
> > > > > > TW, but not 2.4.1?
>
> > > > > TiddlyWiki's cookie handling should not have changed between those
> > > > > versions*, so this is most likely a browser issue.
>
> > > > > Firefox 3 is not supposed to store cookies for local files:
> > > > >      http://tiddlywiki.org/wiki/Firefox#Cookies
> > > > > However, I /believe/ I'd also noticed some inconsistencies in the 
> > > > > past.
> > > > > However, I haven't been able to make out a reliable/reproducible
> > > > > pattern, so it's hard to analyze this...
>
> > > > > -- F.
>
> > > > > * that's just a guess, so I might be wrong
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[tw] Re: Generic floating tiddler? (E.g a menu, to save real estate)

2009-04-03 Thread MobileLibrary


hi mat,
nice to read there's more people interested in the combination of info
visualization and TW.
I'm still hoping for something like you describe above, but the other
way around:
have the tagmindmap (or any other visualization of content) as
screenfill/background and the tiddlers pop up next to the node that's
clicked on.
My try in implementing tagmindmap and moveablePanel is at
http://www.mobilelibrary.nl

I'd love to have more info visualization plugins for TW,
my ultimate dream would be something that looks like what i did now,
but with a small menu which lets the user/reader choose between,
for instance, the hyperbolic tree of tagmindmap, a tagcloud, or a
geographical map with markers that represent the tiddlers.

And my oh my do i hope that Jeremy continues his work on Cecily!

In my opinion, the great strength of TW is the way in which it lets me
connect little bits of information that gradually build op a hive, or
network, or pattern of fields of interest. Info visualization greatly
helps in discovering connectedness between little bits and pieces. To
be able to use this not only for my own benefit, offline, but also the
fact that nothing is easier to build your own website then simply
uploading one html-file is in my view the great 'selling point' of TW!

ciao,
ML



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[tw] Making the MainMenu left justified with some entries indented

2009-04-03 Thread Tom

I have this in the MainMenu Tiddler:

{{leftjustify{[[Test1]]}}}
{{indent{[[Test2]]}}}

And these in the StyleSheet:

.leftjustify{
text-align: left;
}

.indent{
text-align:left;margin-left:1em;
}


What I get in the main menu is right justified Test1 and a second
line, Test2, also right justified.

Would !important help? And if so, how do I code that into what I have
above?

What I would like to appear would be the following, left justified in
the main menu:

Test1
   Test2

Thanks...

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[tw] Re: Trying to access tiddler.title in foreachtiddler in a template

2009-04-03 Thread shavinder

Thank you. It worked.

On Apr 3, 4:25 pm, Eric Shulman  wrote:
> >  > '{{tiddler.title}}+"-Qualification" + count' none '""' >>"  label:"Add
> > Qualification" tag:{{tiddler.title}} tag:"QualificationForm"
> > template:"QualificationFormEditTemplate" '>
>
> Macros don't generate text output... they create DOM elements in the
> browser.  Thus, you can't put a macro inside another macro and have
> the output of one inserted as text into the parameter list of the
> other.
>
> instead of attempting
>    title:"<>"
>
> you should use a "computed parameter" (a bit of javascript, enclosed
> in doubled curly-braces), like this:
>
>    title:{{ ... calculate title here ... }}
>
> You can get the array of tiddlers with a given tag, use this function:
>    store.getTaggedTiddlers('tagValue')
>
> Thus, for your purposes:
>
>    title:{{ tiddler.title+'-Qualification'+store.getTaggedTiddlers
> (tiddler.title).length+1 }}
>
> enjoy,
> -e
> Eric Shulman
> TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios
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[tw] Re: TW Infomercial: But if you act now....

2009-04-03 Thread Ken Girard

> (cut to insomiac in his hotel room: he's (or she) got his (or hers)
> laptop out and is becoming evermore happy and refreshed.

Definintly a 'she'... comfy bed clothes ... sprawled across the bed
typing on the laptop... your classic sexy librian, right down to
having her take her glasses off, and let her hair down as she sits
up  and cut to the next scene.

Hidden message: Women who use TW are sexy.

Ken Girard


On Apr 3, 4:49 am, Alex Hough  wrote:
> It would be great to to it in this style - perhaps with hint at TV
> evangelism channel.  Are there any performers in the TW community.
>
> 2009/4/3 Paul Downey (psd) :
>
> > I'm suddenly transported to a US motel room, jet-lagged and watching
> > early morning TV ..
>
> targeting the insominc is a good idea
>
> "Can't Sleep?? Capture all your thoughts in the new Taggly Tagging
> then get back to bed.
> (here we need to sell TW as a dream catcher )
>
> >> But wait there is more!
>
> (cut to insomiac in his hotel room: he's (or she) got his (or hers)
> laptop out and is becoming evermore happy and refreshed.
>
> > .. here comes the science bit?
>
> It has been proven that ordering your thoughts increase mental health
> and wellbeing
>
> "Forget beauty sleep!! TiddlyWiki helps me sleep better and reduces
> stress, alowing my skin to Breathe
>
> >> For some reason I want to see this on YouTube.
>
> I'd like to see some Tomorrows World presenter presenting it.
> We would need a 'TW theme' - music i mean:> now that I'd watch :-)
>
> Me to.
>
> > Paul (psd)
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[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki plugin: Call WebService

2009-04-03 Thread gea...@gmail.com

Hi Russ,

Thanks again for your help. However in my case, I just have access to
a public WSDL such as 
http://www.swanandmokashi.com/HomePage/WebServices/QuoteOfTheDay.asmx?WSDL

When I tried to invoke directly the operation; i.e.
http://www.swanandmokashi.com/HomePage/WebServices/QuoteOfTheDay.asmx/GetQuote
I got a SOAP XML response.

How can I parse the XML response in TiddlyWiki?

Thanks

George

On Apr 3, 4:53 pm, Russ Thomas  wrote:
> Hi George,
>
> Embedding the service in an iframe is certainly not ideal - but your
> request intrigued me so I gave it a go in an iframe - and Iike I said,
> it works fine.
>
> My tiddler simply had this in it:
>
> 
>    src="http://127.0.0.1/Erik/webservices/Lookup_WS.asmx?op=GetLookupByClassId";
> width="80%" height="100%" />
> 
>
> Which, obviously, is a service running on my local machine.
>
> What I have here is a whole bunch of webservices I'm developing for an
> application, sadly nothing I can share with the outside world since
> they're not for public/web consumption but for internal/intranet
> purposes.  Further, I have no experience using/consuming any exposed
> services out there on the web (at a coding level, anyway).
>
> What we need is the services of someone like Eric Shulman to make it
> anything like useful - by that I mean, the call really needs to be
> sited directly in the tiddler and the returned results need to
> presented (i.e. mashed up) in some kind of sensible TW kinda way.
>
> Eric?  Any thoughts?
>
> Russ
>
> 2009/4/3 gea...@gmail.com :
>
>
>
> > Hi Russ,
>
> > Hmmm that looks nice ... Could you give me a complete simple example
> > please; i.e how can I pass parameters and how can I treat the result?
>
> > Thanks a lot
>
> > George
>
> > On Apr 3, 10:42 am, Russ Thomas  wrote:
> >> I don't know if there's a plugin, but calling a webservice from an
> >> IFRAME in a tiddler works here
>
> >> 
> >>   
> >> 
>
> >> Russ
>
> >> 2009/4/2 gea...@gmail.com :
>
> >> > Hi people,
>
> >> > I was wondering whether there is a plugin for TiddlyWiki which can be
> >> > used to invoke a webservice which is already available on the
> >> > internet; e.g. Quote of The Day from xmethods.
>
> >> > I know that with internet explorer this can be easily done using
> >> > javascript and webservice.htc. But how can I do the same thing with
> >> > TiddlyWiki.
>
> >> > Thanks in advance for your help
>
> >> > George :)
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[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki plugin: Call WebService

2009-04-03 Thread Russ Thomas

Hi George,

Embedding the service in an iframe is certainly not ideal - but your
request intrigued me so I gave it a go in an iframe - and Iike I said,
it works fine.

My tiddler simply had this in it:


  http://127.0.0.1/Erik/webservices/Lookup_WS.asmx?op=GetLookupByClassId";
width="80%" height="100%" />


Which, obviously, is a service running on my local machine.

What I have here is a whole bunch of webservices I'm developing for an
application, sadly nothing I can share with the outside world since
they're not for public/web consumption but for internal/intranet
purposes.  Further, I have no experience using/consuming any exposed
services out there on the web (at a coding level, anyway).

What we need is the services of someone like Eric Shulman to make it
anything like useful - by that I mean, the call really needs to be
sited directly in the tiddler and the returned results need to
presented (i.e. mashed up) in some kind of sensible TW kinda way.

Eric?  Any thoughts?

Russ

2009/4/3 gea...@gmail.com :
>
> Hi Russ,
>
> Hmmm that looks nice ... Could you give me a complete simple example
> please; i.e how can I pass parameters and how can I treat the result?
>
> Thanks a lot
>
> George
>
> On Apr 3, 10:42 am, Russ Thomas  wrote:
>> I don't know if there's a plugin, but calling a webservice from an
>> IFRAME in a tiddler works here
>>
>> 
>>   
>> 
>>
>> Russ
>>
>> 2009/4/2 gea...@gmail.com :
>>
>>
>>
>> > Hi people,
>>
>> > I was wondering whether there is a plugin for TiddlyWiki which can be
>> > used to invoke a webservice which is already available on the
>> > internet; e.g. Quote of The Day from xmethods.
>>
>> > I know that with internet explorer this can be easily done using
>> > javascript and webservice.htc. But how can I do the same thing with
>> > TiddlyWiki.
>>
>> > Thanks in advance for your help
>>
>> > George :)
> >
>

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[tw] Re: Does FF3 save cookies or not?

2009-04-03 Thread roger

Mike,
You're correct, sadly that's not the answer I'm looking.

I am using SetUserNamePlugin and have it set up to automatically
prompt the user for their name when the TW opens if the name is set to
YourName.  I had to set it up that way because I am also using the
TiddlyLock plugin.  With TiddlyLock, if you start to edit a TW with
the user name set to YourName, then the TW becomes locked by
YourName.

So if I force SetUserNamePlugin to check the value of the user name
when the TW is loaded, that avoids problems if the user needs to edit
the TW as SetUserName and TiddlyLock don't bump into each other when
the TW is put into edit mode.

Unfortunately, if I can't resolve the cookie saving issue, then every
user will be getting prompted for their user name on every TW every
time it's pulled up.  We use hundreds of TW files in our office, so
it's not an insignificant annoyance if the UserName prompt has to be
dealt with every time.

I still don't understand how to set the cookies exception for
localhost, which I'm hopeful might be a solution, but I'm not overly
optimistic that it will.

~Roger

On Apr 2, 11:50 am, Mike  wrote:
> May not be the answer you are looking for,  but I had a similar
> problem on a multi user TW and I 
> installedhttp://www.tiddlytools.com/#SetUserNamePlugin
> Prompting for User name a the start of the document
>
> Mike
>
> On Apr 2, 8:05 am, Ken Girard  wrote:
>
> > In my home environment I am having no problem with cookies in a 2.5.0
> > TW on Firefox 3.1b3.
> > It saves my userName and various configs, right down to having the
> > options panel open.
> > But, I just realized that this cookie might be also what is causing my
> > cookies to persist for 2.4.1 TW files.
> > Interesting as I'd never tried to think of it that way before.
>
> > Ken Girard
>
> > On Apr 1, 6:37 pm, roger  wrote:
>
> > > FND,
> > > Yes, I've been to that link a few times just trying to make sure I
> > > correctly understood what was being communicated.
>
> > > Hmmm, well I guess it doesn't matter so much why FF3 is playing nice
> > > with our 2.2.5 files, it's the fact that I can't save the txtUserName
> > > cookie for the ver. 2.4.1 files that I need to fix.
>
> > > Will the localhost URL work for the situation I described?  According
> > > to the wiki:
> > > "using a localhost URL (e.g. file://localhost/home/user/TiddlyWiki.html
> > > instead of file:///home/user/TiddlyWiki.html) - that way a cookie
> > > exception can be added for localhost"
>
> > > But, how do I add a cookie exception for localhost?
>
> > > ~ Roger
>
> > > On Apr 1, 12:27 pm, FND  wrote:
>
> > > > > Why does the txtUserName cookie work fine in FF3 with ver 2.2.5 of
> > > > > TW, but not 2.4.1?
>
> > > > TiddlyWiki's cookie handling should not have changed between those
> > > > versions*, so this is most likely a browser issue.
>
> > > > Firefox 3 is not supposed to store cookies for local files:
> > > >      http://tiddlywiki.org/wiki/Firefox#Cookies
> > > > However, I /believe/ I'd also noticed some inconsistencies in the past.
> > > > However, I haven't been able to make out a reliable/reproducible
> > > > pattern, so it's hard to analyze this...
>
> > > > -- F.
>
> > > > * that's just a guess, so I might be wrong
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[tw] Compilation/comparison for menu / tree / mindmap TW apps

2009-04-03 Thread Amzg

Please help completing the following for a compiled comparison over
apps that generates an overview or representation for all or several
related tiddlers (any established term for this?)
A typical application for these could be as, or instead of, a menu.


HyperTiddlyWiki / Hypergraph (Dawn Ahukanna)
http://project.dahukanna.net/tiddlywiki/twextensions.htm#HypergraphPackage
 or http://project.dahukanna.net/tiddlywiki/hypertiddlywiki/index.htm
Gives compact mindmap type representation with all(!) tiddlers
potentially visible.
Based on the external java and xml software Hypergraph and thus
requires external files and folders. Maybe this can now be fully
integrated as a regular plugin with the latest jquery core feature?
As it is, does HTW work for latest TW core / is HTW maintained?
I particularly like the oval display shape in combo with font size
'proportional to' where the focus is, and the possibility to drag/
shift focus. Extremely compact and yet maximum information at the same
time.

TiddlyTagMindMap / TagMindMap (Jon Robson)
http://tiddlytagmindmap.tiddlyspot.com/
Similar in appearece to HyperTiddlyWiki, i.e mindmap type, but it is a
regular TW plugin (correct? Or does it require separate files etc?).
On the negative side, it is less compact than HTW and not possible to
get an overview over all tiddlers. (This creates a myoptic feeling
IMO  or maybe I'm missing some setting?)
Status described as experimental. Seems to be worked on currently.

TagCloudPlugin (Shulman, Checketts)
http://www.tiddlytools.com/#TagCloudPlugin
Core 2.1. Maintained.
Cloud for tags or specifically declared tiddlernames. Font size
proportional to numbers of related tiddlers. The tags to be shown can
be set to fulfill certain criteria.
For those who like tag clouds I guess this is perfect. (Personally I
just think they're messy.)

RelatedTiddlersPlugin (Shulman)
http://www.tiddlytools.com/#RelatedTiddlersPlugin
Starting from a selected tiddler, display a list and/or tree of linked
or transcluded tiddlers.
Regularly maintained
(Functionality wise, interpret ShowAllByTags as an "all inlcusive"
instance of RTP, i.e simply a listing with everything sorted under tag
headings.)
For TRP to be practical as some type of menu tool, I think it would
benefit from a slider/expand feature such as Collins TagsTreePlugin
(see next)

TagsTreePlugin (Pascal Collin)
http://visualtw.ouvaton.org/VisualTW.html#TagsTreePlugin
"Menu type" (tree) representation. Core 2.1.0, Last update Jan. 2008 -
maintained?
You define which tags you want represented in the tree and in action,
the tree then auto-shows the tiddlers under their respective tag
heading. (Do I describe this correctly? If a tiddler is tagged with
two tags, will it then show in two places in the tree?)
I like that the branches are collapse/expandable.

TagglyTaggingPlugin (Simon Baird)
http://mptw.tiddlyspot.com/#TagglyTaggingPlugin
Starting from a selected tiddler or tag name, it gives a list or tree
such as by tag or sitemap or just plain lists. Preferred shape is set
in a small menu over the actual lists, i.e not in the code. (Good!) A
tool I personally use all the time.
A thing I would love to see; The extremely usable sitemap view easily
gets too long - sliders to collapse/expand the branches would be
ideal. It could easily be used as a full side bar menu then.

TagGridPlugin (Shulman)
http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#TagGridPlugin
A cross-referenced grid of tiddlers, based on tag values.



Please provide additional relevant information and your spontaneous
thoughts.


Thanks


/Mat
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[tw] Generic floating tiddler? (E.g a menu, to save real estate)

2009-04-03 Thread Amzg

Several menus or e.g mind maps are both usable and beautiful but take
up a lot of valuable real estate. On the one hand you need access to
the menus all the time, but on the other hand they are in the way for
everything else all the time.

Is there any plugin or generic solution to make specified tiddlers
floating and collapsable and *dockable* (is that a word?) to the
browser frame. A concrete example;

In e.g Windows and Mac, you have the bars typically at the bottom that
(depending on settings) can appear when touching the edge of the
window, but otherwise sink back and "disappear". A floating tiddler
with e.g an otherwise bulky mindmap-type menu could appear when e.g
the top or right edge of the browser window is touched.

E.g something as beautiful - but big - as HyperTiddlyWiki [1] could be
laid there. A related idea, would be a menu or tree or mind-map etc
that only shows a part, such as closely related tiddlers, but when
'touched' in some certain way, it expands into the full display.

/Mat


[1] Dawn Ahukanna 
http://project.dahukanna.net/tiddlywiki/hypertiddlywiki/index.htm
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[tw] Re: Trying to access tiddler.title in foreachtiddler in a template

2009-04-03 Thread Eric Shulman

>  '{{tiddler.title}}+"-Qualification" + count' none '""' >>"  label:"Add
> Qualification" tag:{{tiddler.title}} tag:"QualificationForm"
> template:"QualificationFormEditTemplate" '>

Macros don't generate text output... they create DOM elements in the
browser.  Thus, you can't put a macro inside another macro and have
the output of one inserted as text into the parameter list of the
other.

instead of attempting
   title:"<>"

you should use a "computed parameter" (a bit of javascript, enclosed
in doubled curly-braces), like this:

   title:{{ ... calculate title here ... }}

You can get the array of tiddlers with a given tag, use this function:
   store.getTaggedTiddlers('tagValue')

Thus, for your purposes:

   title:{{ tiddler.title+'-Qualification'+store.getTaggedTiddlers
(tiddler.title).length+1 }}

enjoy,
-e
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TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios

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[tw] Trying to access tiddler.title in foreachtiddler in a template

2009-04-03 Thread shavinder

I have a tiddler containing student record, it is connected with its
own StudentFormViewTemplate and StudentFormEditTemplate. In the view
template i have a newTiddler macro which is supposed to create a
Qualifications tiddler. This new qualification tiddler should be
tagged with the title of the Student tiddler when it is created. But
since multiple qualification tiddlers can be created from one parent
student tiddler i need to count any alreadt existing qualifications
tiddlers and attach a suffix to the title of the new qualifications
tiddler. so for example lets say we have a student tiddler with title
as 'rollno10', when i create the first qualification it should be
titled as 'rollno10-qualification1' and tagged as rollno10. in order
to do this i am doing this in StudentFormViewTemplate:

>"  label:"Add
Qualification" tag:{{tiddler.title}} tag:"QualificationForm"
template:"QualificationFormEditTemplate" '>

But cannot make it work.
Thanks in advance.
please try the AddNewStudent link in main menu here
http://shavinz-trial-tw.tiddlyspot.com/

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[tw] Re: TW Infomercial: But if you act now....

2009-04-03 Thread Alex Hough

It would be great to to it in this style - perhaps with hint at TV
evangelism channel.  Are there any performers in the TW community.


2009/4/3 Paul Downey (psd) :
>
> I'm suddenly transported to a US motel room, jet-lagged and watching
> early morning TV ..
targeting the insominc is a good idea

"Can't Sleep?? Capture all your thoughts in the new Taggly Tagging
then get back to bed.
(here we need to sell TW as a dream catcher )

>> But wait there is more!
(cut to insomiac in his hotel room: he's (or she) got his (or hers)
laptop out and is becoming evermore happy and refreshed.

> .. here comes the science bit?
It has been proven that ordering your thoughts increase mental health
and wellbeing

"Forget beauty sleep!! TiddlyWiki helps me sleep better and reduces
stress, alowing my skin to Breathe

>> For some reason I want to see this on YouTube.
I'd like to see some Tomorrows World presenter presenting it.
We would need a 'TW theme' - music i mean:
> now that I'd watch :-)
Me to.

> Paul (psd)
> --
> http://blog.whatfettle.com
> >
>



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[tw] Re: TW Infomercial: But if you act now....

2009-04-03 Thread Paul Downey (psd)

I'm suddenly transported to a US motel room, jet-lagged and watching
early morning TV ..

> But wait there is more!

.. here comes the science bit?

> For some reason I want to see this on YouTube.

now that I'd watch :-)

Paul (psd)
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[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki plugin: Call WebService

2009-04-03 Thread gea...@gmail.com

Hi Russ,

Hmmm that looks nice ... Could you give me a complete simple example
please; i.e how can I pass parameters and how can I treat the result?

Thanks a lot

George

On Apr 3, 10:42 am, Russ Thomas  wrote:
> I don't know if there's a plugin, but calling a webservice from an
> IFRAME in a tiddler works here
>
> 
>   
> 
>
> Russ
>
> 2009/4/2 gea...@gmail.com :
>
>
>
> > Hi people,
>
> > I was wondering whether there is a plugin for TiddlyWiki which can be
> > used to invoke a webservice which is already available on the
> > internet; e.g. Quote of The Day from xmethods.
>
> > I know that with internet explorer this can be easily done using
> > javascript and webservice.htc. But how can I do the same thing with
> > TiddlyWiki.
>
> > Thanks in advance for your help
>
> > George :)
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[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki plugin: Call WebService

2009-04-03 Thread Russ Thomas

I don't know if there's a plugin, but calling a webservice from an
IFRAME in a tiddler works here


  


Russ

2009/4/2 gea...@gmail.com :
>
> Hi people,
>
> I was wondering whether there is a plugin for TiddlyWiki which can be
> used to invoke a webservice which is already available on the
> internet; e.g. Quote of The Day from xmethods.
>
> I know that with internet explorer this can be easily done using
> javascript and webservice.htc. But how can I do the same thing with
> TiddlyWiki.
>
>
> Thanks in advance for your help
>
>
> George :)
>
>
> >
>

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[tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyFlash!

2009-04-03 Thread the kettle sings

LOL dude!

On Apr 1, 9:01 am, "Paul Downey (psd)" 
wrote:
> Hi There!
>
> I'm a big fan of TiddlyWiki, and have enjoyed using it for a couple of
> years now, even being motivated enough to develop the odd patch and
> plugin! All well and good, but I have noticed a few fundamental
> weaknesses with TiddlyWiki which I think I've managed to address in a
> new product which I've been quietly working on in the background. It's
> something I'm really quite proud of, and which I'd like to share with
> you all today!
>
> So I hereby announce TiddlyFlash - a clean-room implementation of
> TiddlyWiki written in Adobe ActionScript and targeted at Flash Player
> 10.
>
> TiddlyFlash has a number of advantages over the current HTML/CSS/
> JavaScript version of TiddlyWiki, notably:
>
> * Flash is universal where as capable browsers are becoming harder to
> find. Using Flash gives developers a write once, run anywhere
> experience, freeing them from worrying about cross-browser issues.
> Everybody loves Flash and has it installed and enabled on their
> desktops, laptops and phones.
>
> * TiddlyFlash users benefit from a number of advanced features such as
> animations, sound, videos, control of web cameras and 3D bump-mapped
> texture and shading. These are essential for most wiki use-cases and
> heralding a new era of animation, slick-shading and other "Because I
> Can" developments not possible with current browsers. This
> particularly important for those of us who use the current browser of
> choice, Internet Explorer.
>
> * SEO is a solved problem for Flash now Google indexes the text inside
> many Flash files.
>
> * Accessibility is a solved problem for Flash: it's simple to add key-
> shortcuts and you can always keep a separate copy of the text for use
> in screen readers.
>
> * it is possible, indeed trivial, to hide the TiddlyFlash content
> inside a binary Flash file, allowing TiddlyFlash to hide text from Web
> and desktop searching technologies. This is particularly useful when
> running a guerilla TiddlyFlash on a machine with Google search or
> Apple Spotlight installed and you don't want people to find your
> content.
>
> * furthermore, it seems feasible to implement Digital Rights
> Management (DRM) for TiddlyFlash text, essential for building business
> critical documents.
>
> * offline mode, something which we know has been tricky for some
> browsers, is now a simple matter of downloading the Adobe AIR platform
> and running a version compiled, packaged and made available for this
> ubiquitous environment.
>
> * browser cookies are easily cleared and are often blocked by some
> people overly cautious about privacy. Such people aren't as aware of
> Shared Local Objects (LSO)* and it's unusual for them to be cleared,
> greatly assisting the more sticky storage of TiddlyFlash options.
>
> * whilst it's true that there are few viable ways of building Flash
> applications with free software, the excellent Adobe Flash CS4 is a
> very reasonable $699, so it's actually better than free to write and
> distribute Flash programs. It is true that there are some minor
> licensing things to worry about, but in many cases it doesn't cost
> anything to distribute Flash programs.
>
> * view-source of TiddlyWiki has introduced a number of security issues
> and has been an obstacle to anyone wanting to develop commercial
> TiddlyWiki plugins. TiddlyFlash brings the advantage of a closed-
> source ecosystem, protecting my and plugin developers revenue streams.
>
> * the unconventional Open Source nature of TiddlyWiki can be an issue
> for certain users, notably those within enterprises, therefore
> TiddlyFlash will be delivered as a trusted-source binary. Of course
> there will be a conventional EULA to OK to protect your supplier from
> errors, inadvertent or otherwise. I may consider providing paid-for
> support contracts given that shouldn't be too onerous to meet the
> expected standards for a typical commercial software product, and can
> probably be outsourced.
>
> * trusted-source code means we can have a TiddlyFlashStore, where you
> will be able to buy quality controlled TiddlyFlash software and where
> developers may upload their plugins and verticals on a reasonably and
> non-discriminatory fair revenue share. Registration will of course be
> subject to my approval and at a nominal fee of, say $99 USD per
> application.
>
> * ActionScript is a much nicer version of JavaScript, and coming from
> a single vendor, means it is more coherently designed, stable, better
> documented and with an understandable roadmap than the supposedly
> standard ECMA JavaScript. Anyone who decides to join the TiddlyFlash
> Developers' Programme will find writing plugins and extensions far
> easier and more satisfying. (Note, I may keep some of the more
> advanced developer features hidden, depending if I decide to write my
> own plugins. I may also run premium developer courses for those
> wanting to upskill from JavaScript to Tiddl