[tw] Re: [TW5] newbie question: enable macro or download plugin

2013-11-13 Thread Jens Georg Frøjk


Den onsdag den 13. november 2013 20.18.54 UTC+1 skrev PMario:
>
> On Wednesday, November 13, 2013 6:17:37 PM UTC+1, Jens Georg Frøjk wrote:
>>
>>
>> this will be pre
>>>
>>> ```
>>> your code goes here
>>> it keeps the fromatting
>>> ```
>>>
>>> The one tic for CODE is working, but the 3 tic for PRE is not working. 
>> TW5 Alpha 14.
>>
>
> If you copy paste the above code into TW5 and close the tiddler, it 
> deffinitely works. The backticks have to be in a single line with no 
> whitespace at the end. 
>

 
>
Ahhh, on a line by them self. Great it is working. Dont need the CODE any 
more. Thx a lot. 

Is NoWiki a part of TW5?
Do you recommend me to use it.

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Re: [tw] Re: Modifying TW5 Alpha Add New Tiddler Button?

2013-11-13 Thread Josh



Sorry should have said I was looking for more of a detailed explanation as 
to how to put it in the left menu, as I am new. alongside the other three 
buttons with a picture of a T for task. 

But thank you. the button inside a tiddler worked to create a new tiddler, 
but did not tag the new tiddler with the tag "Task" however?


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[tw] TW5: List all tags with no corresponding tiddler?

2013-11-13 Thread David Gifford
Hi all

Is there a way to do a list filter that can display a list of empty links 
for each tag that does not have a tiddler with that name? Kind of the 
opposite of untagged tiddlers - untiddlered tags.

Dave

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Re: [tw] Re: Modifying TW5 Alpha Add New Tiddler Button?

2013-11-13 Thread David Gifford
Easy:

1. Create a new tiddler. Call it, say, TaskTemplate. This is the "skeleton"
tiddler or the template from which your new tiddlers tagged as task will be
based on.
2. Tag this tiddler with the tag 'task' and save it.
3. As Jeremy said, you can paste a button wherever you want to put it

<$button message="tw-new-tiddler" param="TaskTemplate">Create Task

That's it. Then you click on the 'Create a task' button, and a new tiddler
tagged 'task' will be created, and it will be tagged 'task'. It will be
called TaskTemplate 1, but you change the name to 'Buy milk at the store'
or whatever your new task is.

Dave


On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 9:23 PM, Josh  wrote:

> David,
>
> Would you mind giving me a Run Down of how to do exactly that (create
> buttons based on template)? I am looking to create a new button which has
> the new tiddler functionality from TW5 (but a different picture, and also
> tags the tiddler with "task")
>
> I see how to create the button by searching for this:
> *$:/core/ui/PageTemplate* here: 
> *https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2638511/TW5_Test.htm
> *
>
> But I don't know how to create what the button does, I.e. the
> functionality, giving it a title and a tag.
>
> So If you could help I want to see for example:
>
>1. What the default tiddler looks like
>2. Where it is, so I can duplicate it and modify it to change the
>title from tiddler 1 to Task 1, and give it a tag Task.?
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Re: [tw] Re: Can no longer save with Chrome (TWC)

2013-11-13 Thread PVHL
@Glenn Out of interest, did you try the test 
pageI posted in the discussion Jeremy 
linked to, to see if your Java/Browser 
settings allow access to an applet? I've received some feedback from others 
that suggests if you get that one working then the current unsigned 
TiddlySaver with proper policy file statements will work too.

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Re: [tw] Re: Modifying TW5 Alpha Add New Tiddler Button?

2013-11-13 Thread Josh
David, 

Would you mind giving me a Run Down of how to do exactly that (create 
buttons based on template)? I am looking to create a new button which has 
the new tiddler functionality from TW5 (but a different picture, and also 
tags the tiddler with "task")

I see how to create the button by searching for this: 
*$:/core/ui/PageTemplate* here: 
*https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2638511/TW5_Test.htm*

But I don't know how to create what the button does, I.e. the 
functionality, giving it a title and a tag. 

So If you could help I want to see for example: 

   1. What the default tiddler looks like 
   2. Where it is, so I can duplicate it and modify it to change the title 
   from tiddler 1 to Task 1, and give it a tag Task.?

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Re: [tw] Re: Modifying TW5 Alpha Add New Tiddler Button?

2013-11-13 Thread David Gifford
Don't know why I said a new button would be a cool feature when I have
myself created new-based-on-template buttons this past weekend. Must have
had my head in the clouds...


On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 5:11 PM, Jeremy Ruston wrote:

> Hi Josh
>
> Yup, I always post through gmail, which has reasonable quoting support. I
> hadn't realised that the google groups web interface is so limited. No
> doubt both gmail and groups will be subsumed into google+ in due course
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
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>
>
> On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 11:07 PM, Josh  wrote:
>
>> Jeremy,
>>
>> The quoted text view that keeps showing in purple when you post, is that
>> because you are responding from Gmail instead of the Google Groups forums? I
>>
>> haven't used google groups in a while and I am wondering how to do the
>> "Show Quoted Text" view that you always do when you post?
>>
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[tw] Re: Receiving data from a php file

2013-11-13 Thread Eric Shulman

On Wednesday, November 13, 2013 4:38:21 PM UTC-8, skye riquelme wrote:
>
> Hi Ericthanks...I am sure we are really close...but I cant get it to 
> work. seems the onclick is not firing the code I am testing is -
>
>  style="width:100%;height:200px;">
> check this out!
> <> 
>

> ..for now I am just putting the txt into a localStorage so I can quickly 
> see if it worked...
> the php code is returning the text...but clicking the link does do 
> anything
>

make sure that the  is *immediately* following the closing 
... with *no whitespace* and, if you are using 
HTMLFormattingPlugin, use  in the  block so newlines in the 
onclick handler code will be ignored.

-e

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[tw] inline math

2013-11-13 Thread Bob Robison
So, here is what I think I know:

a macro is used for simple text substitution, ala C pre-processor, and is 
created with the \define syntax.

a widget is 'a ball of magic functionality' written in JS, and 
called/accessed via <$name arg1 arg2> syntax.

Double curly braces are used to transclude a single tiddler, or to access a 
piece of data from a Data TIddler, like this: {{TiddlerName##DataItem}}

Triple curly braces are used to transclude a filter that selects multiple 
tiddlers, like: {{{tag[mechanism]}}}

But, is there a way (or a planned way) to support a syntax that allows 
simple mathematical formulas -- (or to access inline javascript to do so?) 
to maybe combine elements that have been accessed from DataTiddlers?  i.e. 
for some CSS tiddlers in themes, we access the individual data elements 
like {{MetricsTiddler##Param1}} -- but occasionally it would be useful to 
do some simple math (add, subtract, multiply) on a couple of parameters (if 
interpreted numerically).  Is this likely possible?

bob

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[tw] Re: Receiving data from a php file

2013-11-13 Thread skye riquelme
Hi Ericthanks...I am sure we are really close...but I cant get it to 
work. seems the onclick is not firing the code I am testing is -


check this out!
<>

..for now I am just putting the txt into a localStorage so I can quickly 
see if it worked...

the php code is returning the text...but clicking the link does do 
anything

note that the TW where this code is embedded is on the same domain as the 
php scripthence the reletaive link!

Why does this code work?

Thanks
Skye

Em quarta-feira, 13 de novembro de 2013 15h47min55s UTC-3, Eric Shulman 
escreveu:
>
> On Wednesday, November 13, 2013 10:09:11 AM UTC-8, skye riquelme wrote:
>
>> Thanks..as I said, the link returns the dataand I can format the 
>> output into JS code or whatever..but the result of the link is that the 
>> data is returned to window/tab where the TW is open...  losing the 
>> TW.my question is how receive the data from the php link...into a 
>> tiddler...and not into a new window?
>>
>
> You were correct to direct the PHP output to a target IFRAME.  The trick 
> is to gain access to the contents of that IFRAME once it is loaded with 
> results.  One problem is that there's no *automatic* way to know when the 
> results are ready.  A work-around is to use a link, immediately following 
> the IFRAME, that can be clicked once the user observes that results are 
> visible in the IFRAME.  The link then accesses its "previous sibling" (the 
> IFRAME), and reaches into the "contentDocument.body" to fetch the 
> "innerHTML" of the results (in your use-case, just plain text).
>
> One other problem: browser restrictions on "same protocol" and/or "same 
> domain" access to IFRAMES.  Depending upon your particular use case, you 
> might be able to work around this by putting your TW and the PHP script on 
> the same server.
>
> Here's some HTML that demonstrates the basic syntax for access the 
> IFRAME's text content
> ---
>  href="javascript:;" onclick="
> var frame=this.previousSibling;
> var txt=frame.contentDocument.body.innerHTML;
> // now that you have the 'txt' in a variable, you can parse/modify that 
> text
> // and then call on store.saveTiddler(...,txt,...) to copy the text to a 
> tiddler
> ">save data to tiddler
> ---
>
> enjoy,
> -e
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Re: [tw] Re: Can no longer save with Chrome (TWC)

2013-11-13 Thread Glenn Huther
Thanks Jeremy. I've given that a shot and had no luck, unfortunately. I'll 
keep an eye on it :)

For now I'm stuck using IE. Yeuck :)

G

On Friday, 1 November 2013 03:03:33 UTC+11, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Hi Tobias, Glenn,
>
> Paul Levey has recently kindly taken up the maintenance challenge for 
> TiddlySaver. Here's his post from earlier today:
>
> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/tiddlywiki/kzPTzjJQA4I/discussion
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 4:00 PM, Tobias Beer 
> > wrote:
>
>> Any Java guru outthere shedding some light in the TiddlySaver tunnel? Or 
>> is *TiddlySaver.jar* henceforth doomed to fail again thanks to increased 
>> browser restrictions? Last time I checked Java was running smoothly in my 
>> Windows environment, so any code / compatibility updates on the java front 
>> would sure be welcome. Not sure I would manage but is there some basic 
>> walkthrough somewhere on...
>>
>>- Where to find the latest source code?
>>- What is needed to test and compile the jar?
>>
>> Tobias.
>>
>>
>> On Monday, 28 October 2013 14:26:11 UTC+1, Glenn Huther wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Everyone
>>>
>>> Today I started receiving this error:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *JavaScript AlertIt's not possible to save changes. Possible reasons 
>>> include:- your browser doesn't support saving (Firefox,Internet Explorer, 
>>> Safari and Opera all work if properly configured) - the pathname to your 
>>> TiddlyWiki file contains illegal characters- the TiddlyWiki file has been 
>>> moved of renamed*
>>>
>>> I've tried downloading version 2.8.1 and the latest version of the 
>>> TiddlySaver.jar, but all that did was try to DOWNLOAD the file Empty.htm
>>>
>>> The only thing I can think of that has changed is that I installed a 
>>> Java update several days ago...
>>>
>>> How can I get Chrome to save properly again?
>>>
>>> Thanks all, Glenn
>>>
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Re: [tw] Re: Modifying TW5 Alpha Add New Tiddler Button?

2013-11-13 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Josh




Yup, I always post through gmail, which has reasonable quoting support. I 
hadn't realised that the google groups web interface is so limited. No doubt 
both gmail and groups will be subsumed into google+ in due course




Best wishes




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On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 11:07 PM, Josh  wrote:

> Jeremy,
> The quoted text view that keeps showing in purple when you post, is that 
> because you are responding from Gmail instead of the Google Groups forums? I
> haven't used google groups in a while and I am wondering how to do the 
> "Show Quoted Text" view that you always do when you post?

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Re: [tw] Re: Modifying TW5 Alpha Add New Tiddler Button?

2013-11-13 Thread Josh
Jeremy,

The quoted text view that keeps showing in purple when you post, is that 
because you are responding from Gmail instead of the Google Groups forums? I

haven't used google groups in a while and I am wondering how to do the 
"Show Quoted Text" view that you always do when you post?

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Re: [tw] Re: Modifying TW5 Alpha Add New Tiddler Button?

2013-11-13 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Stephan,

Yes, we'll add the ability to set the title of the newly cloned tiddler
soon. One solution would be to add another attribute to the button widget,
and allow for the tw-new-tiddler event to have the additional parameter,
but I'm exploring ways to extend the mechanism to solve some other, related
problems too.

Best wishes

Jeremy



On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 10:07 PM, Stephan Hradek
wrote:

>
>
> Am Mittwoch, 13. November 2013 21:59:13 UTC+1 schrieb Jeremy Ruston:
>
>>
>> No, a skeleton tiddler can be any tiddler; clicking the associated "new"
>> button makes a clone of the skeleton tiddler with a new title.
>>
>
> Is there a way to set the title? I just created [[AnswerTemplate]] with
> some default text. Then another tiddler containing
>
> <$button message="tw-new-tiddler" param="AnswerTemplate">Answer
>
> When I click that button I get an [[AnswerTemplate 1]] tiddler.
>
> My current idea is to use TW5 for some auditing, where the ser would
> sometimes also need to add some answers to some questions. Maybe these
> answers will have a common layout or some common tags. However, I'd like to
> be able to somehow make the title of the answer-tiddler be defined by the
> question tiddler:
>
> [[Question What's the answer]]
> What's the answer to the question for the meaning of life, the universe
> and the rest
> <$button message="tw-new-tiddler" param="AnswerTemplate" title="Answer to
> the meaning of Life">Answer
>
> So this should not create  [[AnswerTemplate 1]] but [[Answer to the
> meaning of Life]] or, if we already have 41 answers ;) [[Answer to the
> meaning of Life 42]] ;)
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Re: [tw] Re: Modifying TW5 Alpha Add New Tiddler Button?

2013-11-13 Thread Josh
Thanks Jeremy I will play around with that version and the internal version.

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Re: [tw] Re: Modifying TW5 Alpha Add New Tiddler Button?

2013-11-13 Thread Stephan Hradek


Am Mittwoch, 13. November 2013 21:59:13 UTC+1 schrieb Jeremy Ruston:
>
>
> No, a skeleton tiddler can be any tiddler; clicking the associated "new" 
> button makes a clone of the skeleton tiddler with a new title.
>

Is there a way to set the title? I just created [[AnswerTemplate]] with 
some default text. Then another tiddler containing

<$button message="tw-new-tiddler" param="AnswerTemplate">Answer

When I click that button I get an [[AnswerTemplate 1]] tiddler.

My current idea is to use TW5 for some auditing, where the ser would 
sometimes also need to add some answers to some questions. Maybe these 
answers will have a common layout or some common tags. However, I'd like to 
be able to somehow make the title of the answer-tiddler be defined by the 
question tiddler:

[[Question What's the answer]]
What's the answer to the question for the meaning of life, the universe and 
the rest
<$button message="tw-new-tiddler" param="AnswerTemplate" title="Answer to 
the meaning of Life">Answer

So this should not create  [[AnswerTemplate 1]] but [[Answer to the meaning 
of Life]] or, if we already have 41 answers ;) [[Answer to the meaning of 
Life 42]] ;)

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Re: [tw] Re: Finding and using the latest version of tiddlywiki 5?

2013-11-13 Thread Josh
Thanks Jeremy, 

I will eagerly await the next release of TW5. Keep up the great work.

On Thursday, 14 November 2013 06:26:06 UTC+11, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Hi Josh
>
> Yes, the version of TiddlyWiki5 you've found was a pre-alpha experiment 
> from back in 2009/10. It did prototype wysiwyg editing, but it wasn't 
> operational. The prototype lives here:
>
> http://tiddlywiki.com/tiddlywiki5.old/
>
> And the code is here:
>
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5.2010.alpha
>
> I decided to abandon the approach early in 2010, in favour of the 
> TiddlyWiki5 that you see today http://five.tiddlywiki.com/
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 7:15 PM, PMario  >wrote:
>
>> btw - latest version atm is a five.tiddlywiki.com
>> -m
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Re: [tw] Re: Modifying TW5 Alpha Add New Tiddler Button?

2013-11-13 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Josh

Thank you, however I am still having some issues... Is a skeleton tiddler
> simply a new tiddler with no title no content and no tags?
>

No, a skeleton tiddler can be any tiddler; clicking the associated "new"
button makes a clone of the skeleton tiddler with a new title.

I created a new tiddler, removed the default title and content and then
> tagged it with "Task" however the button just creates a new tiddler, and it
> doesn't have the task tag.
>
> Sorry I am very new to creating buttons and being so new I know I am doing
> something wrong but don't know what?
>
> Also is it possible to have this New Task Button sit next to the New
> Tiddler button with the green + Plus Sign? Rather than having the button
> within a tiddler where I have to keep open the Task Tiddler or open it
> every time I wanted to create a task.
>

At the moment you could only do that by hacking the page template. Have a
look at Ton Gerner's example here, where he puts various buttons in the top
bar:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2638511/TW5_Test.htm

Best wishes

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Re: [tw] Re: Modifying TW5 Alpha Add New Tiddler Button?

2013-11-13 Thread Josh
Jeremy, 

Thank you, however I am still having some issues... Is a skeleton tiddler 
simply a new tiddler with no title no content and no tags?

I created a new tiddler, removed the default title and content and then 
tagged it with "Task" however the button just creates a new tiddler, and it 
doesn't have the task tag. 

Sorry I am very new to creating buttons and being so new I know I am doing 
something wrong but don't know what?

Also is it possible to have this New Task Button sit next to the New 
Tiddler button with the green + Plus Sign? Rather than having the button 
within a tiddler where I have to keep open the Task Tiddler or open it 
every time I wanted to create a task.

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Re: [tw] Where did the Close All and New Journal buttons go to in TW5?

2013-11-13 Thread Josh
Thanks Jeremy that clears things up, I had forgotten about an internal 
version which makes perfect sense.

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Re: [tw] Re: Finding and using the latest version of tiddlywiki 5?

2013-11-13 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Josh

Yes, the version of TiddlyWiki5 you've found was a pre-alpha experiment
from back in 2009/10. It did prototype wysiwyg editing, but it wasn't
operational. The prototype lives here:

http://tiddlywiki.com/tiddlywiki5.old/

And the code is here:

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5.2010.alpha

I decided to abandon the approach early in 2010, in favour of the
TiddlyWiki5 that you see today http://five.tiddlywiki.com/

Best wishes

Jeremy



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> btw - latest version atm is a five.tiddlywiki.com
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Re: [tw] Where did the Close All and New Journal buttons go to in TW5?

2013-11-13 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Josh

The "close all" button is at the bottom of the "open" tab in the sidebar;
the button is right at the bottom, and is quite pale until you mouse over
it.

"Close others" is available internally but not included in the default
templates yet. See here for an example of a TW5 that uses it:

http://tw5gray.tiddlyspot.com

There will be a new journal facility soon.

Best wishes

Jeremy



On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 7:14 AM, Josh  wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> In Classic TW there is a Close All Button and Close Other But Not This
> Button, where did they go?
>
> Also in Classic was a New Journal Tiddler Button, I presume a customised
> version of New Blank Tiddler? Where did this go?
>
> How can I get these buttons back?
>
> I have never created javascript or a TW macro before but if that is what
> it takes I am willing to try?
>
> Help much appreciated.
>
> Many Thanks,
>
> Josh.
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Re: [tw] Re: Modifying TW5 Alpha Add New Tiddler Button?

2013-11-13 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Josh

You can have a "new task" button today. Simply create a skeleton tiddler
that has the task tag, and then include something like this where you want
the button to appear:

<$button message="tw-new-tiddler" param="MyTaskSkeletonTiddler">Create
Task

In due course there will be a new here function, too.

Best wishes

Jeremy



On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 1:25 PM, David Gifford  wrote:

> I agree. The ability to create a new button with options: new with tag,
> new here (that is, new and tagged with the title of the originating
> tiddler), new clone from template, etc will be a LIFE-SAVING feature for
> TiddlyWiki 5.
>
> Dave
>
>
> On Wednesday, November 13, 2013 12:58:26 AM UTC-6, Josh wrote:
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Loving TW5 just found it last week. Some great new functionality.
>> Previously used and loved TW Classic.
>>
>> I need some help modifying how a standard installation of TW5 works.
>>
>> I use the task management function heavily, where you can tag a tiddler
>> as DONE and TASK and TW5 automatically creates a task list for you?
>>
>> I would like to modify the Green + which creates a new tiddler. I want to
>> duplicate it and whenever it creates a new tiddler I want the button to
>> automatically tag the tiddler with Task. I also want to change the button
>> picture for my custom New Task Tiddler to a "T" for task.
>>
>> Please advise on how to do this? And or point me to where I should read
>> about modifying tiddlywiki in this way?
>>
>> Many Thanks,
>>
>> Josh.
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Re: [tw] [TW5]: Possible to change button color etc when TiddlyWiki has been modified since last save?

2013-11-13 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Steve

There's currently no mechanism to change the colour of the save button
according to the time since the last save.

There will soon be an autosave mechanism, though, that will automatically
save changes when necessary (it will only work with saver modules like
TiddlyFox that can save changes without user interaction, and not with the
default "download" saver).

Best wishes

Jeremy



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> Hi,
>
> Is there an event mechanism that can be used to detect that the TiddlyWiki
> is modified so that I can alert myself by changing the color of the "Save"
> button (for example)?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve
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[tw] Re: [TW5] newbie question: enable macro or download plugin

2013-11-13 Thread PMario
On Wednesday, November 13, 2013 6:17:37 PM UTC+1, Jens Georg Frøjk wrote:
>
>
> this will be pre
>>
>> ```
>> your code goes here
>> it keeps the fromatting
>> ```
>>
>> The one tic for CODE is working, but the 3 tic for PRE is not working. 
> TW5 Alpha 14.
>

If you copy paste the above code into TW5 and close the tiddler, it 
deffinitely works. The backticks have to be in a single line with no 
whitespace at the end. 


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[tw] [TW5]: Possible to change button color etc when TiddlyWiki has been modified since last save?

2013-11-13 Thread sjensen1688
Hi,

Is there an event mechanism that can be used to detect that the TiddlyWiki 
is modified so that I can alert myself by changing the color of the "Save" 
button (for example)?

Thanks,

Steve

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[tw] Re: Finding and using the latest version of tiddlywiki 5?

2013-11-13 Thread PMario
btw - latest version atm is a five.tiddlywiki.com
-m

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[tw] Re: Finding and using the latest version of tiddlywiki 5?

2013-11-13 Thread PMario
Hi Josh,
I can't speak for Jeremy, so the following is my impression. 

As you said, the video is Feb. 2010. IMO this was a pre-pre-pre alpha 
version. As far as I know, Jeremy started over from scratch again after 
recording this video. One reason may be the rise of  HTML5 support in 
browsers. So actual TW5 code has nothing to do with the video. There is no 
HTML editor built in to TW5. 

-m

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[tw] Re: Receiving data from a php file

2013-11-13 Thread Eric Shulman
On Wednesday, November 13, 2013 10:09:11 AM UTC-8, skye riquelme wrote:

> Thanks..as I said, the link returns the dataand I can format the 
> output into JS code or whatever..but the result of the link is that the 
> data is returned to window/tab where the TW is open...  losing the 
> TW.my question is how receive the data from the php link...into a 
> tiddler...and not into a new window?
>

You were correct to direct the PHP output to a target IFRAME.  The trick is 
to gain access to the contents of that IFRAME once it is loaded with 
results.  One problem is that there's no *automatic* way to know when the 
results are ready.  A work-around is to use a link, immediately following 
the IFRAME, that can be clicked once the user observes that results are 
visible in the IFRAME.  The link then accesses its "previous sibling" (the 
IFRAME), and reaches into the "contentDocument.body" to fetch the 
"innerHTML" of the results (in your use-case, just plain text).

One other problem: browser restrictions on "same protocol" and/or "same 
domain" access to IFRAMES.  Depending upon your particular use case, you 
might be able to work around this by putting your TW and the PHP script on 
the same server.

Here's some HTML that demonstrates the basic syntax for access the IFRAME's 
text content
---
save data to tiddler
---

enjoy,
-e
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[tw] Re: Receiving data from a php file

2013-11-13 Thread skye riquelme
Thanks..as I said, the link returns the dataand I can format the 
output into JS code or whatever..but the result of the link is that the 
data is returned to window/tab where the TW is open...  losing the 
TW.my question is how receive the data from the php link...into a 
tiddler...and not into a new window?

Tha ks
Skye


Em quarta-feira, 13 de novembro de 2013 08h45min12s UTC-2, whatever 
escreveu:
>
> Hey!
>
> Whatever data (I presume they're URLs) you get from PHP, you need to parse 
> it in TW with JS/jQuery. There, you can add HTML code (or TW markdown) and 
> make the links clickable. Linking to PHP will open the PHP file.
>
> w
>
> On Wednesday, November 13, 2013 3:35:56 AM UTC+1, skye riquelme wrote:
>>
>> Hi All
>> Playing again with databases and getting information in and out of TW.
>>
>> So far I have a simple php file that opens a mysql database and reads 
>> some data...
>>
>> I can see that output in a tiddler using a simple html form and have 
>> specifying a target that is an iframe.so I can SEE the data..(its 
>> simple text in the iframe)
>>
>> BUT I want to be able to interact with the data click on urls.or 
>> even have the php file output simple javascript text that the receiving 
>> tiddler can evaluate...
>>
>> I tried -> >refs but this opens the data overriding the whole TW 
>> itself!.. how can I receive the dta into a tiddler?
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>> Skye 
>>
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] newbie question: enable macro or download plugin

2013-11-13 Thread Jens Georg Frøjk


Den onsdag den 13. november 2013 15.43.33 UTC+1 skrev PMario:
>
> On Wednesday, November 13, 2013 9:55:58 AM UTC+1, Jens Georg Frøjk wrote:
>>
>> ...So I tried to use the wikitext-example macro. And it did not function. 
>> So I was wondering...
>> Later I read up on the HTML tags, and I understand you need both PRE and 
>> CODE tags to
>>
>
> Can you post the code that you used and that did not work?
> Having a "minimal testcase" speeds up responses a lot. ... otherwise it is 
> just guessing.
>
> It's all going in the right direction... Just me finding a way, before 
doing some gawk and convert me txt file to TW5. ;-)
Maybe I should use NOWIKI.
The problem is if you have code samples, using backtics and square brackets.

/G

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[tw] Re: [TW5] newbie question: enable macro or download plugin

2013-11-13 Thread Jens Georg Frøjk


Den onsdag den 13. november 2013 15.31.34 UTC+1 skrev PMario:
>
> This creates a code tag: `code tag`
>
> this will be pre
>
> ```
> your code goes here
> it keeps the fromatting
> ```
>
> The one tic for CODE is working, but the 3 tic for PRE is not working. TW5 
Alpha 14.

/G 

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[tw] TagAdderMacro wont respect excludelists tags

2013-11-13 Thread Robert Gibson
I have been messing around with my Address Book data base, which I haven't 
done in a while.
I started using the TagAdderMacro which is quite awesome. I noticed that 
there seems to be no way exclude certain tags. While I can live with that 
what really bugs me is that the macro will also use the "excludelists" tag. 
Here is what I mean:


You'd think that the macro would respect a tag like excludeLists. Does 
anybody know how I could get the macro to not display that tag?

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[tw] Re: how to trigger an image according to a tag

2013-11-13 Thread roma
Many thanks Tobias !

The plugin is quite complex / powerful (I've been stuck on the 'when' 
parameter). 

As I don't need such versatility, I tried also hidewhen plugin and also the 
elegant Eric's solution based on css :

{{tag1{[img[photos/ix/cc0.png]]}}}{{tag1{[img[photos/ix/cc1.png]]}}}{{tag2{[img[photos/ix/cc2.png]]}}}
in tiddler

with

.tag1 { display:none; }
   div[tags~="tag1"].tiddler .tag1 { display:inline;}
etc.
in StyleSheet

although transclusion for use with pasteup plugin. doesn't work of course.

Anyway, I turned around and managed with something acceptable.

I keep your suggestion in mind for the future !

Best Regards -

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[tw] Re: Finding and using the latest version of tiddlywiki 5?

2013-11-13 Thread Joshua
TW5 does not have that functionality at the moment. Jeremy demonstrated 
something that looked similar in the last hangout 
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqjPSqQySc0), but it wasn't a WYSIWYG 
editor and I don't believe there are any plans for such a thing.

Joshua

On Wednesday, November 13, 2013 1:08:27 AM UTC-6, Josh wrote:
>
> Hi All, 
>
> I watched this video from youtube to try and learn about TW5  
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ht-ZnidvGY
>
> On there Jeremy seems to be using a version of TW5 which has a Microsoft 
> Word Like editor for formatting type options,(20 sec mark). Therefore I 
> am wondering which version of TW was he using then? 
>
> I have downloaded the Alpha from 
>
> *http://five.tiddlywiki.com/static/How%2520to%2520use%2520TiddlyWiki5%2520as%2520a%2520standalone%2520HTML%2520file%2520with%2520TiddlyFox.html
>  
> *I
>  
> also tried downloading the same version via GITHUB but I have never used 
> Git Hub before and could not find just a HTML file (like I get from the web 
> download) when I downloaded this zip.
> *https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/releases/tag/v5.0.0-alpha.14 
> *
>
> I would like to be using the latest version of TW5 (even one which is not 
> a release yet is fine) which has the Microsoft Office like editing 
> functionality, as I would prefer not to remember the markup, I am not that 
> good at typing. Could someone point me to how to get that version, or since 
> this video was created in 2010 has that functionality been removed?
>
> Also on a side note: Has anyone anywhere developed some plugin that allows 
> you to nest tags which are in tiddlywiki, like for example how it works in 
> evernote? I would love this feature.  
>
> Many Thanks, 
>
> Josh
>
>
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] newbie question: enable macro or download plugin

2013-11-13 Thread PMario
On Wednesday, November 13, 2013 9:55:58 AM UTC+1, Jens Georg Frøjk wrote:
>
> ...So I tried to use the wikitext-example macro. And it did not function. 
> So I was wondering...
> Later I read up on the HTML tags, and I understand you need both PRE and 
> CODE tags to
>

Can you post the code that you used and that did not work?
Having a "minimal testcase" speeds up responses a lot. ... otherwise it is 
just guessing.

-m

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Re: [tw] Re: Think I messed something up

2013-11-13 Thread David Gifford
Thanks Jeremy, that did the trick! Sorry for flooding you with so many
questions...I have greatly appreciated your help, and I admire your
thorough efforts to help so many people while also trying to make progress
on TiddlyWiki 5. Must be a headache!

Dave


On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 7:45 AM, Jeremy Ruston wrote:

> Sorry Dave, I missed this one.
>
> You don't need the `format` attribute on the transclude widget. The
> `field` attribute also defaults to `text`, so you can omit that too.
>
> Otherwise, I don't see a problem. Is it just that the lack of a newline
> after the transclude widget is forcing it to parse the transcluded tiddler
> in inline mode, meaning that block syntax like headings won't be displayed
> correctly? If so, try this:
>
> <$list filter="[is[current]tagging[]sort[title]]">
> <$link to={{!!title}}><$view field="title"/>
>
> <$transclude/>
>
> 
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 1:28 PM, David Gifford  wrote:
>
>> 20 views but no answers. Anyone want to help me out?
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>> On Monday, November 11, 2013 7:21:56 PM UTC-6, David Gifford wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all
>>>
>>> I thought I had this right, switching this from view to transclude:
>>>
>>> <$list filter="[is[current]tagging[]sort[title]]">
>>> <$link to={{!!title}}><$view field="title"/>
>>> <$transclude field="text" format="wikified"/>
>>>
>>> But now the transclude field doesn't wikify it.
>>>
>>> Can someone give me a code that will wikify the text field of the
>>> tiddlers in the list? Preferably one that will last throughout the rest of
>>> the alpha phase? =)
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
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[tw] Re: [TW5] newbie question: enable macro or download plugin

2013-11-13 Thread PMario
This creates a code tag: `code tag`

this will be pre

```
your code goes here
it keeps the fromatting
```

Do _not_ modify the html directly. It will cause super strange behaviour, 
that will be very hard to track down.
-m

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Inline Editing of fields

2013-11-13 Thread Dylan Kinnett
I'm on Chrome for windows and mac when it works for me. 

> On Nov 13, 2013, at 3:39 AM, Stephan Hradek  wrote:
> 
> Which Browser? Neither my (old) Safari nor my (old) FireFox could handle
> 
> <$edit-text field="pub_date" type="date" tag="input">
> 
> Which I simply pasted into a new tiddler on five.tiddlywiki.com. Typing just 
> one character un-focusses the field.
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Re: [tw] Re: Think I messed something up

2013-11-13 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Sorry Dave, I missed this one.

You don't need the `format` attribute on the transclude widget. The `field`
attribute also defaults to `text`, so you can omit that too.

Otherwise, I don't see a problem. Is it just that the lack of a newline
after the transclude widget is forcing it to parse the transcluded tiddler
in inline mode, meaning that block syntax like headings won't be displayed
correctly? If so, try this:

<$list filter="[is[current]tagging[]sort[title]]">
<$link to={{!!title}}><$view field="title"/>

<$transclude/>



Best wishes

Jeremy



On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 1:28 PM, David Gifford  wrote:

> 20 views but no answers. Anyone want to help me out?
>
> Dave
>
>
> On Monday, November 11, 2013 7:21:56 PM UTC-6, David Gifford wrote:
>>
>> Hi all
>>
>> I thought I had this right, switching this from view to transclude:
>>
>> <$list filter="[is[current]tagging[]sort[title]]">
>> <$link to={{!!title}}><$view field="title"/>
>> <$transclude field="text" format="wikified"/>
>>
>> But now the transclude field doesn't wikify it.
>>
>> Can someone give me a code that will wikify the text field of the
>> tiddlers in the list? Preferably one that will last throughout the rest of
>> the alpha phase? =)
>>
>> Dave
>>
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[tw] Re: Think I messed something up

2013-11-13 Thread David Gifford
20 views but no answers. Anyone want to help me out?

Dave

On Monday, November 11, 2013 7:21:56 PM UTC-6, David Gifford wrote:
>
> Hi all
>
> I thought I had this right, switching this from view to transclude:
>
> <$list filter="[is[current]tagging[]sort[title]]">
> <$link to={{!!title}}><$view field="title"/>
> <$transclude field="text" format="wikified"/>
>
> But now the transclude field doesn't wikify it. 
>
> Can someone give me a code that will wikify the text field of the tiddlers 
> in the list? Preferably one that will last throughout the rest of the alpha 
> phase? =)
>
> Dave
>

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[tw] Re: Modifying TW5 Alpha Add New Tiddler Button?

2013-11-13 Thread David Gifford
I agree. The ability to create a new button with options: new with tag, new 
here (that is, new and tagged with the title of the originating tiddler), 
new clone from template, etc will be a LIFE-SAVING feature for TiddlyWiki 5.

Dave

On Wednesday, November 13, 2013 12:58:26 AM UTC-6, Josh wrote:
>
> Hi All, 
>
> Loving TW5 just found it last week. Some great new functionality. 
> Previously used and loved TW Classic. 
>
> I need some help modifying how a standard installation of TW5 works. 
>
> I use the task management function heavily, where you can tag a tiddler as 
> DONE and TASK and TW5 automatically creates a task list for you?
>
> I would like to modify the Green + which creates a new tiddler. I want to 
> duplicate it and whenever it creates a new tiddler I want the button to 
> automatically tag the tiddler with Task. I also want to change the button 
> picture for my custom New Task Tiddler to a "T" for task. 
>
> Please advise on how to do this? And or point me to where I should read 
> about modifying tiddlywiki in this way?
>
> Many Thanks, 
>
> Josh.
>

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[tw] Re: Receiving data from a php file

2013-11-13 Thread whatever
Hey!

Whatever data (I presume they're URLs) you get from PHP, you need to parse 
it in TW with JS/jQuery. There, you can add HTML code (or TW markdown) and 
make the links clickable. Linking to PHP will open the PHP file.

w

On Wednesday, November 13, 2013 3:35:56 AM UTC+1, skye riquelme wrote:
>
> Hi All
> Playing again with databases and getting information in and out of TW.
>
> So far I have a simple php file that opens a mysql database and reads some 
> data...
>
> I can see that output in a tiddler using a simple html form and have 
> specifying a target that is an iframe.so I can SEE the data..(its 
> simple text in the iframe)
>
> BUT I want to be able to interact with the data click on urls.or 
> even have the php file output simple javascript text that the receiving 
> tiddler can evaluate...
>
> I tried - >refs but this opens the data overriding the whole TW 
> itself!.. how can I receive the dta into a tiddler?
>
> Thanks in advance
> Skye 
>

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[tw] Where did the Close All and New Journal buttons go to in TW5?

2013-11-13 Thread Josh
Hi All, 

In Classic TW there is a Close All Button and Close Other But Not This 
Button, where did they go?

Also in Classic was a New Journal Tiddler Button, I presume a customised 
version of New Blank Tiddler? Where did this go?

How can I get these buttons back?

I have never created javascript or a TW macro before but if that is what it 
takes I am willing to try?

Help much appreciated.

Many Thanks, 

Josh.

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[tw] Modifying TW5 Alpha Add New Tiddler Button?

2013-11-13 Thread Josh
Hi All, 

Loving TW5 just found it last week. Some great new functionality. 
Previously used and loved TW Classic. 

I need some help modifying how a standard installation of TW5 works. 

I use the task management function heavily, where you can tag a tiddler as 
DONE and TASK and TW5 automatically creates a task list for you?

I would like to modify the Green + which creates a new tiddler. I want to 
duplicate it and whenever it creates a new tiddler I want the button to 
automatically tag the tiddler with Task. I also want to change the button 
picture for my custom New Task Tiddler to a "T" for task. 

Please advise on how to do this? And or point me to where I should read 
about modifying tiddlywiki in this way?

Many Thanks, 

Josh.

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[tw] Finding and using the latest version of tiddlywiki 5?

2013-11-13 Thread Josh
Hi All, 

I watched this video from youtube to try and learn about TW5  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ht-ZnidvGY

On there Jeremy seems to be using a version of TW5 which has a Microsoft 
Word Like editor for formatting type options,(20 sec mark). Therefore I am 
wondering which version of TW was he using then? 

I have downloaded the Alpha from 

*http://five.tiddlywiki.com/static/How%2520to%2520use%2520TiddlyWiki5%2520as%2520a%2520standalone%2520HTML%2520file%2520with%2520TiddlyFox.html*I
 
also tried downloading the same version via GITHUB but I have never used 
Git Hub before and could not find just a HTML file (like I get from the web 
download) when I downloaded this zip.
*https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/releases/tag/v5.0.0-alpha.14*

I would like to be using the latest version of TW5 (even one which is not a 
release yet is fine) which has the Microsoft Office like editing 
functionality, as I would prefer not to remember the markup, I am not that 
good at typing. Could someone point me to how to get that version, or since 
this video was created in 2010 has that functionality been removed?

Also on a side note: Has anyone anywhere developed some plugin that allows 
you to nest tags which are in tiddlywiki, like for example how it works in 
evernote? I would love this feature.  

Many Thanks, 

Josh


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[tw] Re: [TW5] Inline Editing of fields

2013-11-13 Thread Stephan Hradek
Just to confirm: Also FF25 on WinDOS has the described issue.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] newbie question: enable macro or download plugin

2013-11-13 Thread Jens Georg Frøjk


Den tirsdag den 12. november 2013 20.24.04 UTC+1 skrev PMario:
>
> The wikitext info is here: http://five.tiddlywiki.com/static/WikiText
>
> imo no <> macro atm. 
> There is no systemConfig anymore. The plugin mechanism changed quite a bit.
>
Ahhee, maybe it's a little confusing for a newbie,  when I mix the TW2 and 
TW5 info from the net.
 

>
> Can you discribe your usecase a bit?
>
> I want to use TW5 as my note paper in my work. So there will be a lot of 
small script going in there. And I do not want to lose the formatting of it.
So I played around with the backticks, but it was not enough. So I tried to 
use the wikitext-example macro. And it did not function. So I was 
wondering...
Later I read up on the HTML tags, and I understand you need both PRE and 
CODE tags to keep the formatting.
Any WikiText to get the PRE tag?
/Georg

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Inline Editing of fields

2013-11-13 Thread Stephan Hradek
Which Browser? Neither my (old) Safari nor my (old) FireFox could handle

<$edit-text field="pub_date" type="date" tag="input">

Which I simply pasted into a new tiddler on five.tiddlywiki.com. Typing 
just one character un-focusses the field.

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