[tw] TW5 home button doesn't work as expected in zoomin mode

[UBi]

Hi,

   1. open http://www.tiddlywiki.com
   2. activate the home button
   3. switch to zoomin mode
   4. close all tiddlers
   5. click on the home button

While the default tiddlers appear in the "Open" sidebar, the story river 
remains empty.
I suppose this is not the way it ought to be?

UBi

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[tw] Re: TW5 Can't save when path contains greek letters

[Danielo Rodríguez]

Would you consider not using those letters?
I find using characters from non-standard charsets a bad practice. Please 
note that with non-standard I mean the more basic charset a computer will 
work with. I'm Spanish and I never use characters like ñ or € or spaces. 
I'm pretty sure Jeremy will try to fix your problem, but you will not have 
so much lucky with other programs/computer systems.

El domingo, 5 de octubre de 2014 20:40:59 UTC+2, ara...@gmail.com escribió:
>
> I can't save the wiki when the destination path contains a folder with 
> greek letters in windows 7.
>
> I end up with js error
>
> [Exception... "Component returned failure code: 0x80520015 
> (NS_ERROR_FILE_ACCESS_DENIED) [nsIFileOutputStream.init]"  nsresult: 
> "0x80520015 (NS_ERROR_FILE_ACCESS_DENIED)"  location: "JS frame :: 
> chrome://tiddlyfox/content/overlay.js :: TiddlyFox.saveFile :: line 98"  
> data: no]
>
> any solution to this?
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] codemirror TW5 mode support?

[Danielo Rodríguez]

El domingo, 5 de octubre de 2014 01:06:09 UTC+2, PMario escribió:
>
>
> There is a edit type mapping already: 
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/blob/master/plugins/tiddlywiki/codemirror/EditorTypeMappings.multids
>
> I know about the mapping. I'm who proposed it and I followed it very 
close. But the tiddler you are mention is just an "info" tiddler. There is 
no way to edit that values from there in an easy way. I would like to see 
some drop down menus to do this. 

>
>>- Define which theme do we want
>>
>> No theme. The cm default settings are fine. Other themes are plugins. 
> Same with additional language modes.
>
> Maybe fine for you. I'm talking about the possibility to SWITCH themes. I 
don't want to uninstall or disable a plugin just to select a new theme. I 
would like to do from a drop-down in an easy,fast and logical way.

 

Default cm keyboard handling is fine for most users. Every other key 
> bindings are plugins. 
>
> Again, I'm talking about a single control panel to manage EVERYTHING 
related to Codemirror. Of course default keyboard is fine, but as I said, I 
would like to have the ability to change them easily.

 

>
>>- We need a way the control panel can detect installed plugins 
>>
>> imo the $:/ControlPanel already detects plugins. TW defines a structure, 
> how plugins are packaged. They can have there own readme + docs
> Active plugins can add there own tabs to the ControlPanel. So the user can 
> adjust settings. All mechanisms are part of the core.
>
> The same misunderstood again. I want to manage all the codemirror 
configurations in a single place. So maybe the codemirror control panel 
should load configuration tabs based on tags like the system control panel 
does. 

>
>>- How should be a plugin structure be? Same naming as the original 
>>codemirro?
>>
>> If it's an addon or keymap or mode in cm, it is a plugin for TW. 
> I think we should name the plugins exactly in the same way as cm does. So 
> there should be less confusion. 
>
> -mario
>

I agree with the fact that the naming should be as similar to the 
codemirror plugin as possible.  But we can not name it as /core/ because it 
is not a core plugin.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] codemirror TW5 mode support?

[Danielo Rodríguez]

El domingo, 5 de octubre de 2014 21:41:56 UTC+2, TheDiveO escribió:
>
> While I agree on a modular codemirror distribution based on TW5's 
> incredibly useful plugin mechanism, there is one thing missing at the 
> moment: the dreaded config tiddler. I would like to suggest that we modify 
> the existing codemirror wrapper to iterate over all module library tiddlers 
> that are also tagged as, say $:/tags/Codemirrorlib. This would allow end 
> users to simply add codemirror plugins to their TW5s without having to wire 
> up all the pieces through the codemirror config tiddler.
>
> What do you think?
>
>
 I agree with you (and I said this several times) that the current way to 
configure codemirror is everything but intuitive. But, I don't think we 
need the plugin to iterate over all library tiddlers. The only thing we 
need is an easy way to modify the config tiddler. That's the control panel 
I was talking about.


 

> As for your naming suggestion ... I would like to see codemirror or at 
> least cm in the name ... otherwise we may see name clashes with other 
> tiddlywiki plugins?
>
>>
>>
As I said to Mario, I agree they should be very similar, but we can not 
include /core in the name 

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[tw] Re: My custom TW5 theme

[Danielo Rodríguez]

I really like your theme.

It is very similar to what I have been doing for my personal tiddlywiki. I 
also have a fixed top-bar with a search field. But mine is thicker. It only 
has the wide the content needs, something very similar to the tag drop 
down. But your top-bar seems to work very well with mobile devices. That is 
one of my main concerns with tiddlywiki. Seems that nobody cares about 
mobile devices, and I think that something for reference and fast notes has 
a lot to do with mobile.

Thank you very much for sharing it. Would you consider to pack it as a 
plugin? Examining the code I find that it uses the mousetrap plugin for the 
focus shortcut (/ or alt+q) but only on browser. Does this will work in 
tiddlydesktop?

El lunes, 6 de octubre de 2014 02:06:30 UTC+2, James Anderson escribió:
>
> This might be of interest to some people working with tiddlywiki:
>
> I have been spending some of my free time customizing TW5, including a 
> theme for my webpage called "phasersonkill"
>
> You can see the current result here http://welford.github.io/
>
> It was originally based on seamless, and keeps a search bar at the top 
> which can be used to bring down a scrollable area of the results. This 
> works well on mobile where there can be limited horizontal screen space. (/ 
> or alt+q can be used to jump to the search input)
>
> I also made the results transclude any links to my twexe plugin buttons so 
> that specific commands can be run straight from the search results. This 
> last feature is on windows hta version only, but my idea was to have one 
> TW5 for making notes at home use hta and add a twexe command to export a 
> subset of the tw5 as my homepage in html.
>
> Any feedback welcome.
>
> Regards,
> James
>
>
>
>
>

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[tw] Re: How to use JS functionality after importing JS file in TW

[Danielo Rodríguez]

It takes some time to understand how the widgets system works, but I think 
it is the correct way.
Allowing to execute random JS code is returning back to TWC.

El lunes, 6 de octubre de 2014 05:34:17 UTC+2, Shash escribió:
>
> Hi All,
>
> I want to understand how to use the javascript files in TW. I have 
> imported JS file and named the content as Javascript Code 
> (application\javascript) but I dont know how to use the functionality the 
> JS file gives. Any links to learn and understand this would be of great 
> help.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Regards
> Shash 
>

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[tw] Re: How to use JS functionality after importing JS file in TW

[BJ]

Hi Shash,
In order for people to help you, it would be best if you described what you 
already know (about web technologies) 
- do you know how to program in javascript, or some other programming 
language  (have you written programs in the past)
- do you know what the dom is and how it is created from html?

Also If you say specifically what functionality you are trying to add to 
tiddlywiki, and how (are you going to add an existing library?)

Cheers

BJ

On Monday, October 6, 2014 5:34:17 AM UTC+2, Shash wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> I want to understand how to use the javascript files in TW. I have 
> imported JS file and named the content as Javascript Code 
> (application\javascript) but I dont know how to use the functionality the 
> JS file gives. Any links to learn and understand this would be of great 
> help.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Regards
> Shash 
>

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW 5.0.16]Footnote Popup Not Working

[Jon]

Hi, 

when I copied the macro out of $:/core/ui/PageMacros as per Jeremy's 
suggestion, the footnotes no longer work. Do I need to do anything else as 
well?
Thanks, Jon.

On Monday, 15 September 2014 13:14:09 UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Hi BirtheC
>
> > Did you ad it to $:/core/ui/PageMacros? It might have been overwritten.
>
> Since the introduction of global macros it is not recommended to modify 
> the core shadow tiddler "$:/core/ui/PageMacros". Instead, place your 
> macros in a new tiddler that is tagged $:/tags/Macros.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Birthe C  > wrote:
>
>> Hi Ken Gray
>> Did you ad it to $:/core/ui/PageMacros? It might have been overwritten.
>>
>> Also you have to change the code:
>>
>> define ref(label)
>> <$button popup="$:/state/$label$" class="tc-btn-invisible tc-slider">> style="color:green">$label$
>> \end
>>
>> \define definition(label,text)
>> <$reveal type="popup" state="$:/state/$label$" animate="yes">
>> 
>> 
>> $label$
>> $text$
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> \end
>>
>> \define footnote(label,text)
>> <>
>> <>
>> \end
>>
>> \define footnotes(label,text)
>> <>
>> $label$ :  $text$
>> \end
>>
>>
>>
>> PopupStyle as Danielo wrote.
>>
>> It seems to be working in my TW 5.0.17 now.
>>
>>
>>
>> Birthe
>>
>>
>> Den mandag den 15. september 2014 11.48.12 UTC+2 skrev Danielo Rodríguez:
>>
>>> Probably is because the line:
>>>
>>> tw-drop-down
>>>
>>>
>>> try changing it to tc-drop-down. 
>>>
>>> So the full code should look like:
>>>
>>> define ref(label)
>>> <$button popup="$:/state/$label$" class="btn-invisible tw-slider">>> style="color:green">$label$
>>> \end
>>>
>>> \define definition(label,text)
>>> <$reveal type="popup" state="$:/state/$label$" animate="yes">
>>> 
>>> 
>>> $label$
>>> $text$
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> \end
>>>
>>> \define footnote(label,text)
>>> <>
>>> <>
>>> \end
>>>
>>> \define footnotes(label,text)
>>> <>
>>> $label$ :  $text$
>>> \end
>>>
>>>
>>> You should change the CSS also.It is contained on the popupStyle tiddler 
>>> to look like:
>>>
>>> .tc-drop-down dd { max-width:300px; word-break: break; 
>>> white-space:normal; padding :0;}
>>>
>>> tc-drop-down a {display:inline;padding:0}
>>>
>>>
>>> Let me know about the experience.
>>>
>>> El jueves, 11 de septiembre de 2014 19:49:54 UTC+2, Ken Gray escribió:

 so I've been working with Danielo's PopupFootnotes and have them 
 working except that the popup window doesn't work; it just puts the text 
 right over whatever is there.  
 anyone else figure this out with B16?
 Thanks.

 http://braintest.tiddlyspot.com/#PopupFootnotes:[[Welcome%
 20to%20my%20testing%20Brain!]]%20Index%20PopupFootnotes 

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[tw] Re: Is there a way to use datetime module to add tomorrows date in a tag?

[Shash]

Really incredible Stephan. Thanks a lot for your support on this.

I will be looking forward for your enhancements. Thanks!

Shash

On Monday, October 6, 2014 11:54:44 AM UTC+5:30, Stephan Hradek wrote:
>
> P.S. planned enhancements "Last Christmas" :D and "Easter calculation".
>

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW 5.0.16]Footnote Popup Not Working

[Danielo Rodríguez]

Did you tagged it accordingly? 

El lunes, 6 de octubre de 2014 11:22:02 UTC+2, Jon escribió:
>
> Hi, 
>
> when I copied the macro out of $:/core/ui/PageMacros as per Jeremy's 
> suggestion, the footnotes no longer work. Do I need to do anything else as 
> well?
> Thanks, Jon.
>
> On Monday, 15 September 2014 13:14:09 UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>
>> Hi BirtheC
>>
>> > Did you ad it to $:/core/ui/PageMacros? It might have been overwritten.
>>
>> Since the introduction of global macros it is not recommended to modify 
>> the core shadow tiddler "$:/core/ui/PageMacros". Instead, place your 
>> macros in a new tiddler that is tagged $:/tags/Macros.
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Birthe C  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Ken Gray
>>> Did you ad it to $:/core/ui/PageMacros? It might have been overwritten.
>>>
>>> Also you have to change the code:
>>>
>>> define ref(label)
>>> <$button popup="$:/state/$label$" class="tc-btn-invisible tc-slider">>> style="color:green">$label$
>>> \end
>>>
>>> \define definition(label,text)
>>> <$reveal type="popup" state="$:/state/$label$" animate="yes">
>>> 
>>> 
>>> $label$
>>> $text$
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> \end
>>>
>>> \define footnote(label,text)
>>> <>
>>> <>
>>> \end
>>>
>>> \define footnotes(label,text)
>>> <>
>>> $label$ :  $text$
>>> \end
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> PopupStyle as Danielo wrote.
>>>
>>> It seems to be working in my TW 5.0.17 now.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Birthe
>>>
>>>
>>> Den mandag den 15. september 2014 11.48.12 UTC+2 skrev Danielo Rodríguez:
>>>
 Probably is because the line:

 tw-drop-down


 try changing it to tc-drop-down. 

 So the full code should look like:

 define ref(label)
 <$button popup="$:/state/$label$" class="btn-invisible tw-slider" style="color:green">$label$
 \end

 \define definition(label,text)
 <$reveal type="popup" state="$:/state/$label$" animate="yes">
 
 
 $label$
 $text$
 
 
 
 \end

 \define footnote(label,text)
 <>
 <>
 \end

 \define footnotes(label,text)
 <>
 $label$ :  $text$
 \end


 You should change the CSS also.It is contained on the popupStyle 
 tiddler to look like:

 .tc-drop-down dd { max-width:300px; word-break: break; 
 white-space:normal; padding :0;}

 tc-drop-down a {display:inline;padding:0}


 Let me know about the experience.

 El jueves, 11 de septiembre de 2014 19:49:54 UTC+2, Ken Gray escribió:
>
> so I've been working with Danielo's PopupFootnotes and have them 
> working except that the popup window doesn't work; it just puts the text 
> right over whatever is there.  
> anyone else figure this out with B16?
> Thanks.
>
> http://braintest.tiddlyspot.com/#PopupFootnotes:[[Welcome%
> 20to%20my%20testing%20Brain!]]%20Index%20PopupFootnotes 
>
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[tw] Re: How to use JS functionality after importing JS file in TW

[Shash]

Hi BJ and Danielo,

Yes looking at what I currently know i can easily understand that I need a 
lot of understanding of web technologies. I am however familiar with C 
programming with little to no knowledge of JS. Need to start of soon to get 
a solid hold of this. 

>From your expert advice where is the best place I can start with?

Shash

On Monday, October 6, 2014 2:36:47 PM UTC+5:30, BJ wrote:
>
> Hi Shash,
> In order for people to help you, it would be best if you described what 
> you already know (about web technologies) 
> - do you know how to program in javascript, or some other programming 
> language  (have you written programs in the past)
> - do you know what the dom is and how it is created from html?
>
> Also If you say specifically what functionality you are trying to add to 
> tiddlywiki, and how (are you going to add an existing library?)
>
> Cheers
>
> BJ
>
> On Monday, October 6, 2014 5:34:17 AM UTC+2, Shash wrote:
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I want to understand how to use the javascript files in TW. I have 
>> imported JS file and named the content as Javascript Code 
>> (application\javascript) but I dont know how to use the functionality the 
>> JS file gives. Any links to learn and understand this would be of great 
>> help.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Regards
>> Shash 
>>
>

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[tw] TW5, download set of tiddlers.Some help needed

[Danielo Rodríguez]

Hello everyone, from http://welford.github.io/ I got one of the easiest 
solutions to download sets of tiddlers. I don't think it is a better 
explanation, it just reached my mind at the precise moment.

Here is the tiddler used as template:

\define saveTiddlerFilter()
[[$:/core]] [[$:/isEncrypted]] [[$:/plugins/tiddlywiki/fullscreen]] 
[[$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla]] [[$:/themes/welford/phasersonkill]] 
[[$:/themes/welford/readonly]] [[$:/theme]] 
[[$:/plugins/tiddlywiki/codemirror]] [[$:/plugins/tiddlywiki/highlight]] 
[[$:/plugins/welford/twexe]] [[$:/plugins/welford/htalink]] [tag[blog]] 
-[[$:/boot/boot.css]] -[type[application/javascript]library[yes]] 
-[[$:/boot/boot.js]] -[[$:/boot/bootprefix.js]] +[sort[title]]
\end
\define savingEmpty()
yes
\end
{{$:/core/templates/tiddlywiki5.html}}

I understand how the filter works. It applies OR to all the titles and the 
tag filter. The question is that I don't know which tiddlers are mandatory 
to include. Of course at least one theme, but what about the rest? 
core,$:/theme,boot, and so on? Can I took that filter as a default and just 
 modify it?

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[tw] Re: [TW5] codemirror TW5 mode support?

[TheDiveO]

On Monday, October 6, 2014 10:17:05 AM UTC+2, Danielo Rodríguez wrote:
>
>
> El domingo, 5 de octubre de 2014 21:41:56 UTC+2, TheDiveO escribió:
>>
>> While I agree on a modular codemirror distribution based on TW5's 
>> incredibly useful plugin mechanism, there is one thing missing at the 
>> moment: the dreaded config tiddler. I would like to suggest that we modify 
>> the existing codemirror wrapper to iterate over all module library tiddlers 
>> that are also tagged as, say $:/tags/Codemirrorlib. This would allow end 
>> users to simply add codemirror plugins to their TW5s without having to wire 
>> up all the pieces through the codemirror config tiddler.
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
>>
>  I agree with you (and I said this several times) that the current way to 
> configure codemirror is everything but intuitive. But, I don't think we 
> need the plugin to iterate over all library tiddlers. The only thing we 
> need is an easy way to modify the config tiddler. That's the control panel 
> I was talking about.
>

I agree on the control panel -- and for this to work we need some 
infrastructure to properly detect codemirror-specific extensions. One way 
to detect the individual library tiddlers would be using well-known title 
path prefixes. The downside here is that when later moving the plugin to a 
different namespace, things will get ugly. Also, this make packaging 
individual add-on plugins from the same single namespace unnecessarily 
complex and fragile.

My idea would be to have

   - $:/plugins/TheDiveO/codemirror -- the base plugin with support for 
   generic highlighting, javascript, css, and (later) TW5 simple markup.
   - $:/plugins/TheDiveO/emacs-binding -- additional keybinding
   - $:/plugins/TheDiveO/eclipse-theme -- ...
   
 

>
>
>  
>
>> As for your naming suggestion ... I would like to see codemirror or at 
>> least cm in the name ... otherwise we may see name clashes with other 
>> tiddlywiki plugins?
>>
>>>
>>>
> As I said to Mario, I agree they should be very similar, but we can not 
> include /core in the name 
>
Then I will probably do my own playground trial as 
$:/plugins/TheDiveO/CodeMirror until we see clearer as to which way the 
tiddlywiki/codemirror plugin may head in the future.

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW 5.0.16]Footnote Popup Not Working

[Jon]

Hi Danielo,

Yes I followed the instructions and tagged it with $:/tags/Macros but no 
joy.

Jon

On Monday, 6 October 2014 11:01:00 UTC+1, Danielo Rodríguez wrote:
>
> Did you tagged it accordingly? 
>
> El lunes, 6 de octubre de 2014 11:22:02 UTC+2, Jon escribió:
>>
>> Hi, 
>>
>> when I copied the macro out of $:/core/ui/PageMacros as per Jeremy's 
>> suggestion, the footnotes no longer work. Do I need to do anything else as 
>> well?
>> Thanks, Jon.
>>
>> On Monday, 15 September 2014 13:14:09 UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi BirtheC
>>>
>>> > Did you ad it to $:/core/ui/PageMacros? It might have been 
>>> overwritten.
>>>
>>> Since the introduction of global macros it is not recommended to modify 
>>> the core shadow tiddler "$:/core/ui/PageMacros". Instead, place your 
>>> macros in a new tiddler that is tagged $:/tags/Macros.
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>>
>>> Jeremy
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Birthe C  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi Ken Gray
 Did you ad it to $:/core/ui/PageMacros? It might have been overwritten.

 Also you have to change the code:

 define ref(label)
 <$button popup="$:/state/$label$" class="tc-btn-invisible tc-slider" style="color:green">$label$
 \end

 \define definition(label,text)
 <$reveal type="popup" state="$:/state/$label$" animate="yes">
 
 
 $label$
 $text$
 
 
 
 \end

 \define footnote(label,text)
 <>
 <>
 \end

 \define footnotes(label,text)
 <>
 $label$ :  $text$
 \end



 PopupStyle as Danielo wrote.

 It seems to be working in my TW 5.0.17 now.



 Birthe


 Den mandag den 15. september 2014 11.48.12 UTC+2 skrev Danielo 
 Rodríguez:

> Probably is because the line:
>
> tw-drop-down
>
>
> try changing it to tc-drop-down. 
>
> So the full code should look like:
>
> define ref(label)
> <$button popup="$:/state/$label$" class="btn-invisible tw-slider"> style="color:green">$label$
> \end
>
> \define definition(label,text)
> <$reveal type="popup" state="$:/state/$label$" animate="yes">
> 
> 
> $label$
> $text$
> 
> 
> 
> \end
>
> \define footnote(label,text)
> <>
> <>
> \end
>
> \define footnotes(label,text)
> <>
> $label$ :  $text$
> \end
>
>
> You should change the CSS also.It is contained on the popupStyle 
> tiddler to look like:
>
> .tc-drop-down dd { max-width:300px; word-break: break; 
> white-space:normal; padding :0;}
>
> tc-drop-down a {display:inline;padding:0}
>
>
> Let me know about the experience.
>
> El jueves, 11 de septiembre de 2014 19:49:54 UTC+2, Ken Gray escribió:
>>
>> so I've been working with Danielo's PopupFootnotes and have them 
>> working except that the popup window doesn't work; it just puts the text 
>> right over whatever is there.  
>> anyone else figure this out with B16?
>> Thanks.
>>
>> http://braintest.tiddlyspot.com/#PopupFootnotes:[[Welcome%
>> 20to%20my%20testing%20Brain!]]%20Index%20PopupFootnotes 
>>
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[tw] Re: Zoomin Hidden Menu Problem?

[Mal]

Odder,

Yes, I agree with your suggestion to store this type of snippit in my own 
css tiddler.  However, in this case, I was trying to find a solution that 
could be patched into the Tiddlywiki source as a permanent fix.

In any case, as Jeremy has pointed out, my proposed fix has an undesirable 
side effect on the width of tiddlers in classic view, so I am doing some 
more homework.

There is some further discussion on this in the Github issues list 
.

Regards,

Mal



On Monday, 6 October 2014 03:38:03 UTC+10, Odder wrote:
>
> Hallo Mal,
>
> yes that's a solution that works. But better you write this css-snippet in 
> your own CSS-Tiddler and not in a system or shadow tiddler, because of 
> updates:-)
>
> Odder
>
>
> Am Sonntag, 6. Juli 2014 22:27:09 UTC+2 schrieb Stephen Kimmel:
>>
>> This is not a major issue but I can't help the thought that it wasn't 
>> what was intended. Perhaps this comment is best thought of as a suggestion 
>> for doing things slightly differently.
>>
>> Working with 5.13, with the story view set to Zoomin, I find that the 
>> hide the right menu button (the right pointing chevron in the upper right 
>> hand corner) doesn't work as I expected. Instead of simply making the menu 
>> vanish, it causes the visible tiddler to expand until part of the tiddler 
>> is off the screen to the right. The edge of the text falls almost exactly 
>> at the right edge of the screen. At the same time, the left margin is 
>> preserved as it was before the menu was hidden. What I expected was the 
>> tiddler to either fill the screen with no left margin or to have the same 
>> margin on both the right and the left.
>>
>> It looks to me as though the program has tried to calculate the required 
>> size to make the width of the tiddler exactly match the width of the 
>> screen. When sent to the screen with the fixed left margin, the resulting 
>> tiddler ran over the display by the width of the left margin.
>>
>> Perhaps the width of the tiddler in Zoomin story view with the menu 
>> hidden shouldn't be calculated without accounting for the margin but as 
>> equaling the width of the screen less twice the standard left margin.
>>
>> Just a suggestion
>>
>> Stephen
>>
>

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[tw] Re: My custom TW5 theme

[James Anderson]

Thanks Danielo.

It's mostly packed as a theme, but i have just noticed that it no longer 
works if you drag and drop it into a new TW and set it as the theme. I will 
look into why that is.

I have no idea if it will work with tw desktop, I don't think I have ever 
used it.

James

On Monday, 6 October 2014 09:46:59 UTC+1, Danielo Rodríguez wrote:
>
> I really like your theme.
>
> It is very similar to what I have been doing for my personal tiddlywiki. I 
> also have a fixed top-bar with a search field. But mine is thicker. It only 
> has the wide the content needs, something very similar to the tag drop 
> down. But your top-bar seems to work very well with mobile devices. That is 
> one of my main concerns with tiddlywiki. Seems that nobody cares about 
> mobile devices, and I think that something for reference and fast notes has 
> a lot to do with mobile.
>
> Thank you very much for sharing it. Would you consider to pack it as a 
> plugin? Examining the code I find that it uses the mousetrap plugin for the 
> focus shortcut (/ or alt+q) but only on browser. Does this will work in 
> tiddlydesktop?
>
> El lunes, 6 de octubre de 2014 02:06:30 UTC+2, James Anderson escribió:
>>
>> This might be of interest to some people working with tiddlywiki:
>>
>> I have been spending some of my free time customizing TW5, including a 
>> theme for my webpage called "phasersonkill"
>>
>> You can see the current result here http://welford.github.io/
>>
>> It was originally based on seamless, and keeps a search bar at the top 
>> which can be used to bring down a scrollable area of the results. This 
>> works well on mobile where there can be limited horizontal screen space. (/ 
>> or alt+q can be used to jump to the search input)
>>
>> I also made the results transclude any links to my twexe plugin buttons 
>> so that specific commands can be run straight from the search results. This 
>> last feature is on windows hta version only, but my idea was to have one 
>> TW5 for making notes at home use hta and add a twexe command to export a 
>> subset of the tw5 as my homepage in html.
>>
>> Any feedback welcome.
>>
>> Regards,
>> James
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

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[tw] Re: How to use JS functionality after importing JS file in TW

[TheDiveO]

For getting a better and solid understanding of the JavaScript language 
itself, I would like to recommend this online book: Eloquent JavaScript 
. In contrast to many other books about 
JavaScript, you get live(!) examples while reading the book, you can even 
edit the examples and see what then happens, all this from your web 
browser. Also, Eloquent JavaScript might be more difficult at the beginning 
but it teaches a solid foundation -- unlike so many other JavaScript 
tutorials.

That is probably because JavaScript is an incredibly versatile thing, but 
if you are not careful then you easily end up in a huge mess. From my 
experience, many tutorials are perfect examples in teaching how to write 
JavaScript mess. ;)

Next: how do you integrate existing JavaScript into TW5? For this, I would 
suggest reading the developer TW5 documentation (it is linked from the main 
TW5 site). This gives you a better understanding of the individual pieces 
you get. However, typically you will be simply overhelmed and the docu 
isn't written from the perspective you would need.

Personally, I started my learning process by trying to understand how to 
write a new TW5 macro and a new filter operator. This is still a steep 
learning curve, but there's the TW5 core source code for macros and filters 
which will serve you well as possible starting points.

With more experience it should become more easy to look at how existing 
JavaScript libraries are integrated. Codemirror is a good, albeit slightly 
involved topic. It show all the integration work that usually needs to be 
done.

Just my .02.

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[tw] Re: TW5, download set of tiddlers.Some help needed

[Evolena]

You can check the filter for the "download empty" button on tiddlywiki.com, 
it may be a minimal set for TW5 to work:  
http://tiddlywiki.com/#%24%3A%2Feditions%2Ftw5.com%2Fdownload-empty

Here is the filter:
[[$:/core]] [[$:/isEncrypted]] [[$:/themes/tiddlywiki/snowwhite]] 
[[$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla]] -[[$:/boot/boot.css]] 
-[type[application/javascript]library[yes]] -[[$:/boot/boot.js]] 
-[[$:/boot/bootprefix.js]] +[sort[title]]

Le lundi 6 octobre 2014 12:06:28 UTC+2, Danielo Rodríguez a écrit :
>
> Hello everyone, from http://welford.github.io/ I got one of the easiest 
> solutions to download sets of tiddlers. I don't think it is a better 
> explanation, it just reached my mind at the precise moment.
>
> Here is the tiddler used as template:
>
> \define saveTiddlerFilter()
> [[$:/core]] [[$:/isEncrypted]] [[$:/plugins/tiddlywiki/fullscreen]] 
> [[$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla]] [[$:/themes/welford/phasersonkill]] 
> [[$:/themes/welford/readonly]] [[$:/theme]] 
> [[$:/plugins/tiddlywiki/codemirror]] [[$:/plugins/tiddlywiki/highlight]] 
> [[$:/plugins/welford/twexe]] [[$:/plugins/welford/htalink]] [tag[blog]] 
> -[[$:/boot/boot.css]] -[type[application/javascript]library[yes]] 
> -[[$:/boot/boot.js]] -[[$:/boot/bootprefix.js]] +[sort[title]]
> \end
> \define savingEmpty()
> yes
> \end
> {{$:/core/templates/tiddlywiki5.html}}
>
> I understand how the filter works. It applies OR to all the titles and the 
> tag filter. The question is that I don't know which tiddlers are mandatory 
> to include. Of course at least one theme, but what about the rest? 
> core,$:/theme,boot, and so on? Can I took that filter as a default and just 
>  modify it?
>

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[tw] Re: Zoomin Hidden Menu Problem?

['Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki]

Mal, et al

I tried your solution and I found that it works as expected. I didn't 
observe an issue with classic view but then I largely live in Zoomin. I 
have settled in on a variation of your idea that seems to work well for me. 
I worried that the 84 px offset might upset other screen sizes so I settled 
on making the revised version read

<>

The net effect is about the same and, perhaps, it doesn't bother the 
classic view.

Thanks for your efforts.

Stephen

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Re: [tw] Re: Zoomin Hidden Menu Problem?

[Jeremy Ruston]

I've pushed a fix for 5.1.3:

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/commit/5dd6ebff05a3380db2901294b2cfc89c1a0e71bf

Best wishes

Jeremy

On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 1:24 PM, 'Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki <
tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Mal, et al
>
> I tried your solution and I found that it works as expected. I didn't
> observe an issue with classic view but then I largely live in Zoomin. I
> have settled in on a variation of your idea that seems to work well for me.
> I worried that the 84 px offset might upset other screen sizes so I settled
> on making the revised version read
>
> <
> .tc-tiddler-frame {
> width: 95%;
> }
>
> ">>
>
> The net effect is about the same and, perhaps, it doesn't bother the
> classic view.
>
> Thanks for your efforts.
>
> Stephen
>
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[tw] Re: [TW5] REQUEST. Could we please get a TWC theme?

[Evolena]

Did you tried the seamless theme?
 

> Tiddler bar is a plugin, as are all the other things you mention (I've 
>> used some of them in TWC, they are useful but by the time someone re-do 
>> them, I'm getting used to vanilla TW5).
>>
>> So you don't want a TWC theme, you want your TWC+theme+plugin edition. 
>> Maybe do you use MPTW instead of a classic TWC?
>>
>
> I've got my well modified TWC, but there are dozens of reasons to migrate 
> to TW5, and I'd be willing to tweak it and use it myself, as long as I 
> could have an edition which was visually comfortable for me
>

I realize that I've not been clear in my sentences, I didn't intend to say 
"stay in TWC".
You don't want a TWC theme, you want your TWC+theme+plugins edition in TW5. 
Maybe do you currently use MPTW (it is an edition with a more compact 
display and already packaged with TagglyTagging and a title bar, among 
others things) instead of a classic TWC ?
What I mean by saying this is that you are using a personalized version of 
TWC, so a TWC-theme for TW5 which fits your needs will not be the TWC-theme 
for TW5 which will fits other users' needs.
 

>
>> I think Eric Shulman has asked several times these last weeks for user's 
>> prefered plugins to begin with for him to adapt in TW5. I don't know if he 
>> is the author of some of the plugins you mention.
>>
>
> He is.
>

So you could retrieve where he was asking for plugins priorities and vote 
for those you need?

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[tw] Re: [TW5] codemirror TW5 mode support?

['Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki]

For me, we would like to keep a CodeMirror plugin useful to the maximum 
number of people with very simple additions to allow the specialists to 
enhance it to meet their needs. There are or should be a lot more 
Tiddlywiki users than Tiddlywiki programmers. What I need is an enhanced 
text editor and enough accessible documentation that I can understand how 
to make the thing work. My wishlist includes:

1. bracket matching that includes the Tiddlywiki formatting codes. I've 
spent more time than I can count trying to find the mismatched ` that is 
matched by a '.
2. search and replace.
3. the basic keysnippets functionality of adding a Tiddlywiki format code 
to the beginning and end of a selected passage.

Many of the CodeMirror functions, hiding a block, moving a block, 
transposing letters, are nice to haves. While I can see why folks would 
like themes and autospelling and such, I wouldn't want to try to remove 
them manually. 

I like the idea of a control panel, perhaps like the old TWC one where you 
could simply check off the options you want. If it is going to result in 
even more code bloat than Tiddlywiki already has, then I don't think we 
need to have everything pre-installed. 

The config tiddler was a hassle. I would have liked to have had one 
prebuilt as part of the plugin. I don't know if it would work but could we 
include the necessary lines for the available modules and comment them out? 

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] codemirror TW5 mode support?

[Ed Dixon]

Hi Stephen,

I agree and am all about removing everything that reduces resources in
everything that I do. (You probably can't tell that from the lengths of my
posts above LOL but I am). A minimalist to the extreme here which is
probably why I find TiddlyWiki so fascinating. I do think though as the
code mirror plugin is an optional plugin to begin with that there should
not be anything restricting another plugin from providing the full set of
Code Mirror features with a configuration control panel for it if that is
possible, and if there is a need for it. That said I am with you, if I did
not have a specific need for it, I would not even be using the current one
as the basic editor seemed fine for that purpose.

I know I must be missing something here but to me seeing how the CM package
is complete as a standalone javascript plugin, is replacing the main editor
the only way to add CM capabilities to the TW5 file?  I feel once I fully
understand why spawning another editor instance or wrapping the
functionality and hooking it to TW5 capabilities is not possible, I will
have a much clearer picture of what is possible here but my gut is telling
me this could be done and might open worlds of possibilities for much
easier integration of other useful scripts as well.

Thanks,

On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 6:45 AM, 'Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki <
tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> For me, we would like to keep a CodeMirror plugin useful to the maximum
> number of people with very simple additions to allow the specialists to
> enhance it to meet their needs. There are or should be a lot more
> Tiddlywiki users than Tiddlywiki programmers. What I need is an enhanced
> text editor and enough accessible documentation that I can understand how
> to make the thing work. My wishlist includes:
>
> 1. bracket matching that includes the Tiddlywiki formatting codes. I've
> spent more time than I can count trying to find the mismatched ` that is
> matched by a '.
> 2. search and replace.
> 3. the basic keysnippets functionality of adding a Tiddlywiki format code
> to the beginning and end of a selected passage.
>
> Many of the CodeMirror functions, hiding a block, moving a block,
> transposing letters, are nice to haves. While I can see why folks would
> like themes and autospelling and such, I wouldn't want to try to remove
> them manually.
>
> I like the idea of a control panel, perhaps like the old TWC one where you
> could simply check off the options you want. If it is going to result in
> even more code bloat than Tiddlywiki already has, then I don't think we
> need to have everything pre-installed.
>
> The config tiddler was a hassle. I would have liked to have had one
> prebuilt as part of the plugin. I don't know if it would work but could we
> include the necessary lines for the available modules and comment them out?
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[tw] Re: [TW5] REQUEST. Could we please get a TWC theme?

[BJ]

Hi Leo,
I am currently moving to tw5 from tw2 and use the tiddlersbar plug, so will 
work on getting the equivalent functionally in tw5 some time in the next 
couple of weeks.

re the right sidebar size: this can be set as a percentage - story right 
80% story width 80% tiddler width 100%

cheers

BJ

On Sunday, October 5, 2014 8:30:46 AM UTC+2, Leo Staley wrote:
>
> Please don't take my response here as rude. I appreciate your helpfulness, 
> and most of your suggestions here are about a lesser issue to me, the 
> plugins, and I'm not trying to complain about the current state of TW5 
> plugins; merely discussing the specific replacement options you've 
> suggested. 
>
> On Thursday, October 2, 2014 8:53:08 AM UTC-7, Eucaly J wrote:
>>
>> Hi Leo:
>>
>> Yes, stick to TWC should be OK. 
>>
>>  
>
>> While, below are some counterparts for you to compare 
>>
>> TWC=> TW5
>> text buttons=> $:/ControlPanel > Settings > Toolbar Buttons, or direct 
>> link 
>> 
>>  
>>
>
> THANK YOU! I didn't know this! I remember Jeremy had mentioned it at one 
> point, but I didn't know it got implemented. SWEET!
>  
>
>> "tiddler's bar 
>> "
>> 
>> => QuickJump  or 
>> http://tw5breadcrumbs.tiddlyspot.com/
>>
>  I didn't know about Quickjump, so thanks very much for that, but it's 
> still a far cry. I'm interested to see how this functionality progresses. 
> the breadcrumbs are currently buggy and quite less than satisfactory right 
> now. (though I really appreciate Ton's work!)
>
>
>> TagglyTagging  (demonstrated 
>> here quite well ). => PopupTagger 
>> 
>>
> *Totally unrelated to each other*. The functionality of TagglyTagging I'm 
> talking about is the display of a tiddler's tags while viewing the tiddler, 
> in that organized set of columns, with options to switch your view of how 
> they are organized and sorted, on the fly, (including the number of columns 
> used to display it). You're talking about the TW5 version of the <> 
> macro, or the monkey tagger pluggin, or the Tagsearch plugin, whereas 
> TagglyTagging was really a vast replacement for the <> macro. 
>
>>
>> NestedSlidersPlugin ,   
>> => Classic Slider Demo 
>> 
>>   
>> ??? 
>>
> Yeah, nothing really to replace this one yet, but this one isn't nearly as 
> high on my wishlist, as TagSearch, TiddlersBar, and TagglyTagging display 
> of tags. 
>
>> TagSearch  => 
>> TagsSearch-Plugin 
>>
>  
> Also Totally unrelated. Inverse mistake as above. TagSearch is basically a 
> greatly enhanced monkeytagger plugin. The similarity in name with the 
> totally unrelated TagsSearch-Plugin is an unfortunate coincidence.  I blame 
> this on the fact that TagSearch was a terribly misleading name for 
> something that should have been named something like, "Popup tagger" So, it 
> seems Popup Tagger would actually be the current TWC replacement for 
> TagSearchPlugin. Unfortunately, I can't figure out how to use it yet, but 
> hopefully it will eventually be able to suit my needs.
>
>
>> SimpleTreePlugin 
>> 
>> 
>> => TableOfContentsMacro 
>>
>
> Not what I use it for, but thanks for the suggestion!
>  
>
>> QuickEditToolbar => ???
>>
>> In addition, you might want to check how I *switch from TWC to TW5*
>>
>
> Please know, My hopes for ports of the great TWC plugins are much 
> subordinate to my hopes and request for a TWC theme. Mostly involving:
>
> 1) Smaller sidebars, (2 of them) which scroll with the story river, not 
> separately,
> 2) More vertically compact display of lines and tiddlers, and more 
> horizontally compact display of sidebars. On the Community Tiddler on 
> Tiddlywiki.com, there used to be a link to a theme which worked toward that 
> quite a bit, but it was really buggy, and I can't find it now anyway. 
>

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[tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyWiki version 5.1.2

[Jean-Pierre Rivière]

The upgrade wizard ask me for a wiki file to upgrade. what should I do if I 
only have a directory of teddlers working with node.js ? I have to do a 
backup, remove tiddlywiki (how exactly ?) and reinsall this newest version 
a I did for 1.5.10 ?

thanks.

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[tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyWiki version 5.1.2

[Jeremy Ruston]

The upgrade wizard is for upgrading standalone TW files. Here are the 
instructions for upgrading a Node.js installation:


http://tiddlywiki.com/#Upgrading%20TiddlyWiki%20on%20Node.js




Best wishes




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On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 2:59 PM, Jean-Pierre Rivière
 wrote:

> The upgrade wizard ask me for a wiki file to upgrade. what should I do if I 
> only have a directory of teddlers working with node.js ? I have to do a 
> backup, remove tiddlywiki (how exactly ?) and reinsall this newest version 
> a I did for 1.5.10 ?
> thanks.

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[tw] Re: How to show the current filename in a tiddler?

[Uwe]

I use many tiddlers that are looking very similar at the first sight. Tiddly 
Desktop doesn't show the title, once the tiddler is loaded. Also some 
Android Browsers don't show the url by default. The name is also necessary 
to easy check if my pupils have loaded the correct tiddlywiki.
Generally, I would like to provide a lot of my teaching material in TW5, 
not only because of the intended 25 years of support ;-) Currently I miss 
some things I had since years in TWC (many thanks to Eric Shulmans great 
solutions on tiddlytools.com again!), but I know TW5 is at an other point 
of software live cycle and I believe it's getting so cl than TWC.

Greetings,

Uwe

Am Sonntag, 5. Oktober 2014 22:30:36 UTC+2 schrieb PMario:
>
> On Sunday, October 5, 2014 7:10:07 PM UTC+2, Uwe wrote:
>>
>> to get back the filename "index.html" (without the quotation marks) would 
>> be all I need.
>>
>
> Sorry, but I don't understand why you need the name as a macro in a 
> tiddler. It's part of the URL bar of the browser. 
> So it's always visible, or are you using TiddlyDesktop?
> -m
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] codemirror TW5 mode support?

['Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki]

>
> I know I must be missing something here but to me seeing how the CM 
> package is complete as a standalone javascript plugin, is replacing the 
> main editor the only way to add CM capabilities to the TW5 file?  I feel 
> once I fully understand why spawning another editor instance or wrapping 
> the functionality and hooking it to TW5 capabilities is not possible, I 
> will have a much clearer picture of what is possible here but my gut is 
> telling me this could be done and might open worlds of possibilities for 
> much easier integration of other useful scripts as well.
>

Eric's QuickEdit package for TWC demonstrates that the editor can be 
modified to achieve the functionality we would like. Someday, there will be 
a package like that for TW5. Danielo's Keysnippets also expands on the 
existing editor and adds a lot of functionality as well. So clearly a lot 
of this can be done. It just hasn't been done yet. CM is probably overkill 
but... if I could get CM and Keysnippets working together I would be much 
closer to where I want to be. Ultimately something like the QuickEdit 
package is probably the right answer. 

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[tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyWiki 5.1.1

[Steffen]

Dear Jeremy,

I have tried the KaTeX plugin and noticed that common amsmath symbols such 
as \propto or \partial do not work. Is there a possibility to implement 
this functionality?

Regards,
Steffen


Am Montag, 22. September 2014 13:16:02 UTC+2 schrieb Jeremy Ruston:
>
> I'm pleased to announce the release of TiddlyWiki 5.1.1:
>
> http://tiddlywiki.com/
>
> Remember to keep careful backups before upgrading existing wikis at:
>
> http://tiddlywiki.com/upgrade.html
>
> The headline addition is a new plugin to render LaTeX-compatible 
> mathematics using the new KaTeX library from Khan Academy. See:
>
> http://tiddlywiki.com/plugins/tiddlywiki/katex/
>
> The other big change is the removal of some features that were deprecated 
> in 5.0.17-beta:
>
> * Removed deprecated title attribute on the ButtonWidget
> * Removed support for deprecated $:/tags/stylesheet system tag
>
> There are also further improvements to the documentation.
>
> Thanks to pmario and TheDiveO for their contributions to this release.
>
> As usual, feedback is gratefully received!
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
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[tw] [TW5] Advice on Node.js Deployment and Wiki Performance

[Rick Williams]

Hi All,

We have tw5.1.2 installed for Node.js and with NGINX. We're using a daemon 
to run the wiki out of it's own directory (/home/ncemonwiki/emonwiki) and 
using SSL to access the nginx server running one the same server.

At initial connect from Chrome browser, it takes about 60 seconds to server 
the wiki. 

How and what do I need to setup to serve the wiki at speeds comparable to 
what I see at tiddlywiki.com ?

Eventually, we'd also like to be able to navigate directly to individual 
tiddlers (with permanent url) with less than 3 second response.

Can anyone make suggestions for deployment?

Thanks for any suggestions.

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Re: [tw] [TW5] http://tiddlywiki.com/ shows a blank screen in IE9 with TW 5.0.6-beta?

[PMario]

On Monday, October 6, 2014 4:24:50 AM UTC+2, Sai Thota wrote:
>
> Thanks for helping me. I tried using classic.tiddlywiki and it worked 
> well . Please I also need one more help. I wanted to know that, for example 
> if i use the html file and save it on my machine and want to forward it to 
> my colleagues with readonly access and also I do not want any one to 
> download, though they download the file they should not edit it.
>

If you show a TiddlyWiki in a browser, you already did download it. So 
there is no way for you to prevent saving. If someone does a right click: 
"view page source", they see the whole TW file. If you copy paste the stuff 
to a text.html file it's saved. That's the general behaviour of a 
TiddlyWiki. ... It's a self contained wiki. ... You basically get all or 
nothing :)

You can create a theme, that hides elements to edit and save tiddlers. .. 
But you can't prevent a user from changing the html source code. 
 

> Is this possible to do in a simpler way? I was thinking to put a password? 
> I am not sure how to do this, please could you suggest me. I really need 
> your help.
>

Password for what? HTML is a text file. You can edit it with any text 
editor. 
You could encrypt your content but then you can't share it anymore. If 
someone knows your password to see the content, they get everything in 
plain text. 

The only possibility I see is, that you convert your text into a PDF file. 
It makes it a little bit harder to mess around with your content. See: "a 
little bit harder" 

have fun!
mario

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[tw] Re: Change IP server address

[PMario]

Have a look at 
https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/blob/master/bin/serve.sh  or 
serve.cmd (for windows)
You can add the edition path to start every wiki you want. 

-mario

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Automatic password lock after timeout

[PMario]

Hi Matthias,

On Monday, October 6, 2014 7:33:26 AM UTC+2, Matthias Gruenewald wrote:
>
> I'm using TW classic for years now. It is the best productivity tool! Now 
> I would like to switch to TW5. I really like the new option to encrypt all 
> tiddlers. But sometimes I leave the wiki open when going away from my PC at 
> work. It would be great if there would be an option to automatically lock 
> the wiki after a period of no-activity.
>

The TiddlyWiki is unlocked when you load the TW file into the browser 
memory. So you have plain text in memory. You'd need to close the tab, to 
remove your TW from the browsers view. May be the browser removes your TW 
code and cleans up the memory. 
 

> I tried to implement a plugin by using the javascript from this page: 
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/667555/detecting-idle-time-in-javascript-elegantly
>  
> .
>  
> But it seems that some document references are not accessible from a 
> tiddler's javascript code (e.g., $document). Any idea how to solve this?
>

This code expects jQuery to be part of the html file. TW doesn't use 
jQuery. 

-mario

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[tw] Re: How to show the current filename in a tiddler?

[PMario]

On Monday, October 6, 2014 5:22:03 PM UTC+2, Uwe wrote:
>
> I use many tiddlers that are looking very similar at the first sight. Tiddly 
> Desktop doesn't show the title, once the tiddler is loaded. Also some 
> Android Browsers don't show the url by default. The name is also necessary 
> to easy check if my pupils have loaded the correct tiddlywiki.
>

After a bit of thinking about your teaching context and Stephan's response 
I got convinced, that some generic info about the active document could be 
of good user for "specialiced content" display. ... I personally was 
thinking about different download links for the de-AT and de-DE empty 
version, within the same source.

I did create a plugin, that creates several info tiddlers. One of them is 
$://filename  ... The problem here is, that it depends on the initial 
content of the browser URL bar.
So I need to test it with TiddlyDesktop. ... It's intended to be a 
plugins/tiddlywiki/ plugin. So I'm creating the readme and examples info 
atm. 
 

> Generally, I would like to provide a lot of my teaching material in TW5, 
> not only because of the intended 25 years of support ;-)
>

That's a great argument to use TW :)

I hope, I can provide a download link today.

have fun!
mario

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW 5.0.16]Footnote Popup Not Working

[Uwe]

Hi,

I think the joy comes, when you tag it with $:/tags/Macro

instead of $:/tags/Macros

Coincidentally I had the same problem a few minutes ago... ;-)

HTH

Greetings,

Uwe


Am Montag, 6. Oktober 2014 12:53:21 UTC+2 schrieb Jon:
>
> Hi Danielo,
>
> Yes I followed the instructions and tagged it with $:/tags/Macros but no 
> joy.
>
> Jon
>
> On Monday, 6 October 2014 11:01:00 UTC+1, Danielo Rodríguez wrote:
>>
>> Did you tagged it accordingly? 
>>
>> El lunes, 6 de octubre de 2014 11:22:02 UTC+2, Jon escribió:
>>>
>>> Hi, 
>>>
>>> when I copied the macro out of $:/core/ui/PageMacros as per Jeremy's 
>>> suggestion, the footnotes no longer work. Do I need to do anything else as 
>>> well?
>>> Thanks, Jon.
>>>
>>> On Monday, 15 September 2014 13:14:09 UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote:

 Hi BirtheC

 > Did you ad it to $:/core/ui/PageMacros? It might have been 
 overwritten.

 Since the introduction of global macros it is not recommended to modify 
 the core shadow tiddler "$:/core/ui/PageMacros". Instead, place your 
 macros in a new tiddler that is tagged $:/tags/Macros.

 Best wishes

 Jeremy


 On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Birthe C  
 wrote:

> Hi Ken Gray
> Did you ad it to $:/core/ui/PageMacros? It might have been 
> overwritten.
>
> Also you have to change the code:
>
> define ref(label)
> <$button popup="$:/state/$label$" class="tc-btn-invisible tc-slider"> style="color:green">$label$
> \end
>
> \define definition(label,text)
> <$reveal type="popup" state="$:/state/$label$" animate="yes">
> 
> 
> $label$
> $text$
> 
> 
> 
> \end
>
> \define footnote(label,text)
> <>
> <>
> \end
>
> \define footnotes(label,text)
> <>
> $label$ :  $text$
> \end
>
>
>
> PopupStyle as Danielo wrote.
>
> It seems to be working in my TW 5.0.17 now.
>
>
>
> Birthe
>
>
> Den mandag den 15. september 2014 11.48.12 UTC+2 skrev Danielo 
> Rodríguez:
>
>> Probably is because the line:
>>
>> tw-drop-down
>>
>>
>> try changing it to tc-drop-down. 
>>
>> So the full code should look like:
>>
>> define ref(label)
>> <$button popup="$:/state/$label$" class="btn-invisible tw-slider">> style="color:green">$label$
>> \end
>>
>> \define definition(label,text)
>> <$reveal type="popup" state="$:/state/$label$" animate="yes">
>> 
>> 
>> $label$
>> $text$
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> \end
>>
>> \define footnote(label,text)
>> <>
>> <>
>> \end
>>
>> \define footnotes(label,text)
>> <>
>> $label$ :  $text$
>> \end
>>
>>
>> You should change the CSS also.It is contained on the popupStyle 
>> tiddler to look like:
>>
>> .tc-drop-down dd { max-width:300px; word-break: break; 
>> white-space:normal; padding :0;}
>>
>> tc-drop-down a {display:inline;padding:0}
>>
>>
>> Let me know about the experience.
>>
>> El jueves, 11 de septiembre de 2014 19:49:54 UTC+2, Ken Gray escribió:
>>>
>>> so I've been working with Danielo's PopupFootnotes and have them 
>>> working except that the popup window doesn't work; it just puts the 
>>> text 
>>> right over whatever is there.  
>>> anyone else figure this out with B16?
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> http://braintest.tiddlyspot.com/#PopupFootnotes:[[Welcome%
>>> 20to%20my%20testing%20Brain!]]%20Index%20PopupFootnotes 
>>>
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Re: [tw] Re: [TW 5.0.16]Footnote Popup Not Working

[Jon]

Ah ha!

Yes, I am overjoyed!

Thanks, Jon.

On Monday, 6 October 2014 18:52:31 UTC+1, Uwe wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I think the joy comes, when you tag it with $:/tags/Macro
>
> instead of $:/tags/Macros
>
> Coincidentally I had the same problem a few minutes ago... ;-)
>
> HTH
>
> Greetings,
>
> Uwe
>
>
> Am Montag, 6. Oktober 2014 12:53:21 UTC+2 schrieb Jon:
>>
>> Hi Danielo,
>>
>> Yes I followed the instructions and tagged it with $:/tags/Macros but no 
>> joy.
>>
>> Jon
>>
>> On Monday, 6 October 2014 11:01:00 UTC+1, Danielo Rodríguez wrote:
>>>
>>> Did you tagged it accordingly? 
>>>
>>> El lunes, 6 de octubre de 2014 11:22:02 UTC+2, Jon escribió:

 Hi, 

 when I copied the macro out of $:/core/ui/PageMacros as per Jeremy's 
 suggestion, the footnotes no longer work. Do I need to do anything else as 
 well?
 Thanks, Jon.

 On Monday, 15 September 2014 13:14:09 UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Hi BirtheC
>
> > Did you ad it to $:/core/ui/PageMacros? It might have been 
> overwritten.
>
> Since the introduction of global macros it is not recommended to 
> modify the core shadow tiddler "$:/core/ui/PageMacros". Instead, 
> place your macros in a new tiddler that is tagged $:/tags/Macros.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Birthe C  
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Ken Gray
>> Did you ad it to $:/core/ui/PageMacros? It might have been 
>> overwritten.
>>
>> Also you have to change the code:
>>
>> define ref(label)
>> <$button popup="$:/state/$label$" class="tc-btn-invisible 
>> tc-slider">$label$
>> \end
>>
>> \define definition(label,text)
>> <$reveal type="popup" state="$:/state/$label$" animate="yes">
>> 
>> 
>> $label$
>> $text$
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> \end
>>
>> \define footnote(label,text)
>> <>
>> <>
>> \end
>>
>> \define footnotes(label,text)
>> <>
>> $label$ :  $text$
>> \end
>>
>>
>>
>> PopupStyle as Danielo wrote.
>>
>> It seems to be working in my TW 5.0.17 now.
>>
>>
>>
>> Birthe
>>
>>
>> Den mandag den 15. september 2014 11.48.12 UTC+2 skrev Danielo 
>> Rodríguez:
>>
>>> Probably is because the line:
>>>
>>> tw-drop-down
>>>
>>>
>>> try changing it to tc-drop-down. 
>>>
>>> So the full code should look like:
>>>
>>> define ref(label)
>>> <$button popup="$:/state/$label$" class="btn-invisible tw-slider">>> style="color:green">$label$
>>> \end
>>>
>>> \define definition(label,text)
>>> <$reveal type="popup" state="$:/state/$label$" animate="yes">
>>> 
>>> 
>>> $label$
>>> $text$
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> \end
>>>
>>> \define footnote(label,text)
>>> <>
>>> <>
>>> \end
>>>
>>> \define footnotes(label,text)
>>> <>
>>> $label$ :  $text$
>>> \end
>>>
>>>
>>> You should change the CSS also.It is contained on the popupStyle 
>>> tiddler to look like:
>>>
>>> .tc-drop-down dd { max-width:300px; word-break: break; 
>>> white-space:normal; padding :0;}
>>>
>>> tc-drop-down a {display:inline;padding:0}
>>>
>>>
>>> Let me know about the experience.
>>>
>>> El jueves, 11 de septiembre de 2014 19:49:54 UTC+2, Ken Gray 
>>> escribió:

 so I've been working with Danielo's PopupFootnotes and have them 
 working except that the popup window doesn't work; it just puts the 
 text 
 right over whatever is there.  
 anyone else figure this out with B16?
 Thanks.

 http://braintest.tiddlyspot.com/#PopupFootnotes:[[Welcome%
 20to%20my%20testing%20Brain!]]%20Index%20PopupFootnotes 

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[tw] Re: [TW5] REQUEST. Could we please get a TWC theme?

[Mik McAllister]

On Monday, October 6, 2014 6:56:20 AM UTC-7, BJ wrote:
>
> re the right sidebar size: this can be set as a percentage - story right 
> 80% story width 80% tiddler width 100%
>
>
>
Thank you for this, I was wondering about that. Just one of several 
questions I came in here to look for answers. 

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Theme adjustment request

[Mik McAllister]

No offense, but where are the instructions to install these? I just had to 
copy and paste the two shadow tiddlers by hand, and compare them to 
TiddlyWiki to get this to work.

On Wednesday, July 30, 2014 4:20:05 AM UTC-7, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Hi Jim
>
> On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 12:07 AM, jim > 
> wrote:
>
>> Is it possible to have the same sticky-effect in the edit mode?
>>
>
> I've updated 5.0.14 so that sticky titles work in edit mode:
>
>
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/commit/73d7e85e11c7732080ca8bc4321ebb12afbac09c
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
>  
>
>>
>> Am Freitag, 25. April 2014 07:31:24 UTC+2 schrieb Leo Staley:
>>
>>> For the "Open" tab on the right, would it be possible to change the 
>>> default main theme so that it will highlight which tiddler is the one 
>>> you're currently viewing? This would be useful for the same reason that 
>>> your current browser tab looks different from all the other browser tabs. 
>>>
>>> Personally, I much prefer the Browser tabs look achieved by the TWC 
>>> Tiddler's bar, but I also understand why some might like it always visible 
>>> on the side. So if it's going to be the prefered way of doing it with TW5, 
>>> it would go a long way towards helping users, beginners and advanced alike, 
>>> to realize what they are looking at and use it more effectively. 
>>>
>>> I certainly know that If as I scrolled down the main page to a new 
>>> tiddler, and the highlighted item on the right shifted with me as I 
>>> scrolled down, It would feel far less lost on the page than I do now. 
>>>
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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Ideas for use

[Pit.W.]

Hello Dave,

a noob here.

Thanks for all the heavy stuff you contributed to the community, the Tw 
solutions, patient advice and also substantial insight on other things.


You have some time ago published TW5 braintags under 5.0.10-beta. This 
is similar to a swiss pocket knife for knowledge management, even more 
versatile than notestorm. The kind of thing I carry on my Android phone, 
my USBs, my tablet, my laptops, on my PCs... The workflow and the use of 
newhere buttons  is especialy useful for situations where info has to be 
structured into knowledge in an environment of uncertainties. And the 
GUI is very userfriendly.


Do you intend to update it to 5.1.+ ? And maybe make it compatible to 
tiddly clip? The better the cook cooks the the hungrier the mob becomes.


 Pit

Am 27.07.2014 16:16, schrieb David Gifford:




Anyway, this is my system, to pillage as needed. It is a TW5 
equivalent of my old braintags for TWC. It won't appeal to everyone. I 
just mention it as an example of how someone who has played with a 
thousand ways to do notes, and have found this to be the best. It is 
not adequate as a one-TW-for-all-my-notes-on-everything, because 
eventually it would start slowing down, but one TW per topic it works 
fine.



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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Ideas for use

[David Gifford]

Hi Pit.W,

Could you include a link? I have experimented with so many things, I can't 
keep track of them all.

I recommend my latest outing http://notestorm.giffmex.org/ over anything 
previous that I did.

But give me the link and I will have a look.

Dave

On Monday, October 6, 2014 4:21:21 PM UTC-5, Pit.W. wrote:
>
> Hello Dave, 
>
> a noob here. 
>
> Thanks for all the heavy stuff you contributed to the community, the Tw 
> solutions, patient advice and also substantial insight on other things. 
>
> You have some time ago published TW5 braintags under 5.0.10-beta. This 
> is similar to a swiss pocket knife for knowledge management, even more 
> versatile than notestorm. The kind of thing I carry on my Android phone, 
> my USBs, my tablet, my laptops, on my PCs... The workflow and the use of 
> newhere buttons  is especialy useful for situations where info has to be 
> structured into knowledge in an environment of uncertainties. And the 
> GUI is very userfriendly. 
>
> Do you intend to update it to 5.1.+ ? And maybe make it compatible to 
> tiddly clip? The better the cook cooks the the hungrier the mob becomes. 
>
>   Pit 
>
> Am 27.07.2014 16:16, schrieb David Gifford: 
> >  
>
> > Anyway, this is my system, to pillage as needed. It is a TW5 
> > equivalent of my old braintags for TWC. It won't appeal to everyone. I 
> > just mention it as an example of how someone who has played with a 
> > thousand ways to do notes, and have found this to be the best. It is 
> > not adequate as a one-TW-for-all-my-notes-on-everything, because 
> > eventually it would start slowing down, but one TW per topic it works 
> > fine. 
> > 
> ... 
>
>
>

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Ideas for use

[Pit.W.]

Hi Dave,

this is where I found it: http://giffmex.org/experiments/braintags.html

Pit

Am 06.10.2014 23:41, schrieb David Gifford:

Hi Pit.W,

Could you include a link? I have experimented with so many things, I 
can't keep track of them all.


I//recommend my latest outing http://notestorm.giffmex.org/ over 
anything previous that I did.


But give me the link and I will have a look.

Dave

On Monday, October 6, 2014 4:21:21 PM UTC-5, Pit.W. wrote:

Hello Dave,

a noob here.

Thanks for all the heavy stuff you contributed to the community,
the Tw
solutions, patient advice and also substantial insight on other
things.

You have some time ago published TW5 braintags under 5.0.10-beta.
This
is similar to a swiss pocket knife for knowledge management, even
more
versatile than notestorm. The kind of thing I carry on my Android
phone,
my USBs, my tablet, my laptops, on my PCs... The workflow and the
use of
newhere buttons  is especialy useful for situations where info has
to be
structured into knowledge in an environment of uncertainties. And the
GUI is very userfriendly.

Do you intend to update it to 5.1.+ ? And maybe make it compatible to
tiddly clip? The better the cook cooks the the hungrier the mob
becomes.

  Pit

Am 27.07.2014 16:16, schrieb David Gifford:
> 

> Anyway, this is my system, to pillage as needed. It is a TW5
> equivalent of my old braintags for TWC. It won't appeal to
everyone. I
> just mention it as an example of how someone who has played with a
> thousand ways to do notes, and have found this to be the best.
It is
> not adequate as a one-TW-for-all-my-notes-on-everything, because
> eventually it would start slowing down, but one TW per topic it
works
> fine.
>
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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Ideas for use

[David Gifford]

Oh, that. I had a feeling it was that one.

I seem to remember there being a big ddrawback with that one. But I will
look at it for you.

Dave

On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 4:44 PM, Pit.W.  wrote:

>  Hi Dave,
>
> this is where I found it: http://giffmex.org/experiments/braintags.html
>
> Pit
>
> Am 06.10.2014 23:41, schrieb David Gifford:
>
> Hi Pit.W,
>
> Could you include a link? I have experimented with so many things, I can't
> keep track of them all.
>
> I recommend my latest outing http://notestorm.giffmex.org/ over anything
> previous that I did.
>
> But give me the link and I will have a look.
>
> Dave
>
> On Monday, October 6, 2014 4:21:21 PM UTC-5, Pit.W. wrote:
>>
>> Hello Dave,
>>
>> a noob here.
>>
>> Thanks for all the heavy stuff you contributed to the community, the Tw
>> solutions, patient advice and also substantial insight on other things.
>>
>> You have some time ago published TW5 braintags under 5.0.10-beta. This
>> is similar to a swiss pocket knife for knowledge management, even more
>> versatile than notestorm. The kind of thing I carry on my Android phone,
>> my USBs, my tablet, my laptops, on my PCs... The workflow and the use of
>> newhere buttons  is especialy useful for situations where info has to be
>> structured into knowledge in an environment of uncertainties. And the
>> GUI is very userfriendly.
>>
>> Do you intend to update it to 5.1.+ ? And maybe make it compatible to
>> tiddly clip? The better the cook cooks the the hungrier the mob becomes.
>>
>>   Pit
>>
>> Am 27.07.2014 16:16, schrieb David Gifford:
>> > 
>>
>> > Anyway, this is my system, to pillage as needed. It is a TW5
>> > equivalent of my old braintags for TWC. It won't appeal to everyone. I
>> > just mention it as an example of how someone who has played with a
>> > thousand ways to do notes, and have found this to be the best. It is
>> > not adequate as a one-TW-for-all-my-notes-on-everything, because
>> > eventually it would start slowing down, but one TW per topic it works
>> > fine.
>> >
>> ...
>>
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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Theme adjustment request

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Mik

No offense, but where are the instructions to install these? I just had to
> copy and paste the two shadow tiddlers by hand, and compare them to
> TiddlyWiki to get this to work.
>

The link I posted was to the commit record for the changes to the
TiddlyWiki repository on GitHub, which causes the changes to be included in
the next release, in this case that was 5.0.14 (we're currently on version
5.1.2). You don't need to install the changes manually, you just upgrade
your TiddlyWiki to the latest version in the way that is documented on
tiddlywiki.com.

Best wishes

Jeremy




>
>
> On Wednesday, July 30, 2014 4:20:05 AM UTC-7, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>
>> Hi Jim
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 12:07 AM, jim  wrote:
>>
>>> Is it possible to have the same sticky-effect in the edit mode?
>>>
>>
>> I've updated 5.0.14 so that sticky titles work in edit mode:
>>
>> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/commit/
>> 73d7e85e11c7732080ca8bc4321ebb12afbac09c
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Am Freitag, 25. April 2014 07:31:24 UTC+2 schrieb Leo Staley:
>>>
 For the "Open" tab on the right, would it be possible to change the
 default main theme so that it will highlight which tiddler is the one
 you're currently viewing? This would be useful for the same reason that
 your current browser tab looks different from all the other browser tabs.

 Personally, I much prefer the Browser tabs look achieved by the TWC
 Tiddler's bar, but I also understand why some might like it always visible
 on the side. So if it's going to be the prefered way of doing it with TW5,
 it would go a long way towards helping users, beginners and advanced alike,
 to realize what they are looking at and use it more effectively.

 I certainly know that If as I scrolled down the main page to a new
 tiddler, and the highlighted item on the right shifted with me as I
 scrolled down, It would feel far less lost on the page than I do now.

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Ideas for use

[David Gifford]

Hi Pit.W,

A while back I made myself a promise that after the new notestorm I would 
not tinker with TW5 for the rest of 2014, because of my many other 
commitments. While it is tempting to play with Braintags to update it, I 
really need to keep that promise to myself. Hopefully in 2015 I will be 
able to breathe a little easier and help you out. Sorry!

Blessings,

On Monday, October 6, 2014 4:44:59 PM UTC-5, Pit.W. wrote:
>
>  Hi Dave,
>
> this is where I found it: http://giffmex.org/experiments/braintags.html
>
> Pit
>
> Am 06.10.2014 23:41, schrieb David Gifford:
>  
> Hi Pit.W,
>
> Could you include a link? I have experimented with so many things, I can't 
> keep track of them all.
>
> I recommend my latest outing http://notestorm.giffmex.org/ over anything 
> previous that I did.
>
> But give me the link and I will have a look.
>
> Dave
>
> On Monday, October 6, 2014 4:21:21 PM UTC-5, Pit.W. wrote: 
>>
>> Hello Dave, 
>>
>> a noob here. 
>>
>> Thanks for all the heavy stuff you contributed to the community, the Tw 
>> solutions, patient advice and also substantial insight on other things. 
>>
>> You have some time ago published TW5 braintags under 5.0.10-beta. This 
>> is similar to a swiss pocket knife for knowledge management, even more 
>> versatile than notestorm. The kind of thing I carry on my Android phone, 
>> my USBs, my tablet, my laptops, on my PCs... The workflow and the use of 
>> newhere buttons  is especialy useful for situations where info has to be 
>> structured into knowledge in an environment of uncertainties. And the 
>> GUI is very userfriendly. 
>>
>> Do you intend to update it to 5.1.+ ? And maybe make it compatible to 
>> tiddly clip? The better the cook cooks the the hungrier the mob becomes. 
>>
>>   Pit 
>>
>> Am 27.07.2014 16:16, schrieb David Gifford: 
>> >  
>>
>> > Anyway, this is my system, to pillage as needed. It is a TW5 
>> > equivalent of my old braintags for TWC. It won't appeal to everyone. I 
>> > just mention it as an example of how someone who has played with a 
>> > thousand ways to do notes, and have found this to be the best. It is 
>> > not adequate as a one-TW-for-all-my-notes-on-everything, because 
>> > eventually it would start slowing down, but one TW per topic it works 
>> > fine. 
>> > 
>> ... 
>>
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[tw] [TW5] widget to Goto Ranomized Tiddler

[Philip Coltharp]

I envision a widget defined like so..  a list in side a button like so.  ( 
Imagine this was put in a tiddler on http://tiddlywiki.com/)

<$button to="<$list filter="[tag[Widgets]] pick-at-random="1">">Go To 
Random Widget Tiddler

 *OR*

<$button to="">">Go To 
Random Widget Tiddler

The ideal is to get a button to send a user to a tiddler picked at random 
from a list.

I could do this in Classic Tiddlywiki but I want to learn Tiddlywiki5.  How 
might one do this in TW5 differently than in TWC?


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[tw] Re: [TW5] widget to Goto Ranomized Tiddler

[Eucaly J]

maybe ... to implement a random filter

<$list filter="[tag[Widgets]*random[]*limit[1]]" variable="randomTiddler">
<$button to=<> >Go To Random Widget Tiddler




Philip Coltharp於 2014年10月7日星期二UTC+8上午7時37分00秒寫道：
>
> I envision a widget defined like so..  a list in side a button like so.  ( 
> Imagine this was put in a tiddler on http://tiddlywiki.com/)
>
> <$button to="<$list filter="[tag[Widgets]] pick-at-random="1">">Go To 
> Random Widget Tiddler
>
>  *OR*
>
> <$button to="">">Go 
> To Random Widget Tiddler
>
> The ideal is to get a button to send a user to a tiddler picked at random 
> from a list.
>
> I could do this in Classic Tiddlywiki but I want to learn Tiddlywiki5. 
>  How might one do this in TW5 differently than in TWC?
>
>
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] widget to Goto Ranomized Tiddler

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That's something I wouldn't have thought of.  Thanks

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[tw] Re: [TW5] widget to Goto Ranomized Tiddler

[Eucaly J]

Here comes the random filter (to limit to n results), as attached.

usage : [tag[Widgets]*random[1]*]


Philip Coltharp：
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> That's something I wouldn't have thought of.  Thanks

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