[tw] Re: [tw5] Text-Slicer Plugin
On Saturday, August 1, 2015 at 8:31:06 AM UTC-4, Jeremy Ruston wrote: I'd welcome any feedback on the tool. I would also love some help in finding a better sample text, something public domain that we can re-distribute. I love it! I have been chopping up CFRs from the eCFR http://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/ECFR?page=browse to build up searchable regulation tiddlywikis in much the same way to help me with my job. I have been doing them manually so far and I can see this speeding things up quite a bit. Feedback: 1) I think slicing down to the paragraph level might be too far. It adds a lot of autogenerated cruft in the TOCs. There may be some need to go down to this level but I would make the delimiter for levels beyond just headings configurable/regexp-able. In the eCFR example above. It would be useful to go down to the paragraph denoted with a lowercase letter in braces and the subparagraph denoted by a number ... end even sub-subparagraph denoted by lower case roman numerals ... but I don't know what a good title for the paragraphs would be other than their typical legal reference (i.e. §###.## (a)(1)(i)). I have not tackled splitting thing up to that level manually mainly due to the work it would entail and the difficulty in piecing together a tiddler name that won't be error-prone. 2) In the eCFR example, there are a lot of annoying back to top links that I have to manually remove. It would be nice if some configurable/regexp text could be excluded from the slicing import. I'll have to exercise this more (particularly slicing updated regs that supersede previous ones and linked graphics) since it looks like a great tool for me. Thanks! /Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/7b4cc0c6-6600-4ba7-ab00-258e97012133%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [tw5] Text-Slicer Plugin
Hi Jeremy, Interesting approach. Is there a white paper, that allows us to see the concept, that you implemented, without the need of reverse engineering? There is an *issue*. If I import the sliced tiddlers, they don't show up in the recent tab. So after closing the import tiddler, it is impossible to open the sliced tiddlers. There are some questions, for me that come up immediately. 1) What happens I change the title of a sliced tiddler. Does the structure fall apart? 2) Are the auto created tiddlers still usable for tools like TiddlyMap, in a sane way? 3) What if I need to translate the content of individual tiddlers. Do I need to recreate the structure, or can I use the existing one? Especially the heading tiddlers. I have a vague idea, how it works, so it would be useful to see the tiddlers in the recent tab. I think, the document abstraction doesn't go far enough for translation atm but I'm not sure about this. 4) Is there a way to undo the slicing? 5) How can I export one eg heading with all its content, without forgetting some content tiddlers? --- Just a remark. I'd label this plugin as highly experimental, since it completely changes the structure of a tiddlywiki and there is no undo atm. ... I did read the highly enthusiastic comments, which is great. So testing and feedback is good but I'd not recommend to use it with production TWs yet. Because it removes the possibility for Jeremy to make breaking changes to the plugin, without causing a lot of pain. I personally would like to get the best possible functionality and not a plugin the halve backed and can't be changed anymore, because it needs to be backwards compatible to a beta version. have fun! mario -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/1166a3c2-24fc-467b-bd40-52a7741e657a%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Iframe Webpage
i'm showing webpages in tiddly classic 2.8.1 ie but want to be able to set where it starts the display ie but it ALWAYS starts top left html iframe src =http://weather.perthnow.com.au; marginheight=0 marginwidth=0 height=600px width=680px align=left frameborder=1 /iframe /html I've read and tried various margins, align, and others (but not sure if was a synatx or implementation issue) I think I've heard it refered to as webpage splicing but what I want is to be able to set the start viewing location is it even possable? regards -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/41f53390-2b9f-4df4-b4c3-86bb0f015b92%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [tw] Re: [tw5] Text-Slicer Plugin
@JayFresh makes a good point It's an example of allowing free-text to be the basic unit of entry, with the structure coming later and broadly though automated means. Sadly this is an insight most, if not all, productivity tools have failed to grasp - instead they make the unit the task which is a crazy constraint and assumption about how people think. I think this is a great feature. A use case arose for me: I created a missing tiddler, i copied and pasted the title of the tiddler into the search box. The search returns a tiddler -- a copy of an email: it is long and linear, structured in paragraphs. One of the paragraphs was relevant to my missing tiddler. Manually I'll create a new tiddler containing an edited version of the useful paragraph with links to the parent and the missing. Alex On 2 August 2015 at 11:27, Jeremy Ruston jeremy.rus...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the feedback everyone. Hi, even if the idea is good (please think of adding a select all/none option in the import process) there are hundreds of opened issues (some since 2013!) that needs your attention way more than this don't you think? The reason I'm working on this now is because I need it for my day job -- bear in mind that nobody pays me to work on TiddlyWiki :) It might be worth exploring your thoughts about the state of the TW5 issues list in a new thread. For me, I certainly don't see it as my todo list. It was surprising to see how the tiddler in edit mode also appears in the assembled document - I'm not sure this is intentional... but it is actually really good! I would prefer editing it at that local place before having it appear separately at some other place. But with the option to edit it separately (Ctrl+click?) But editing it in-doc would of course require some way to access that tiddlers toolbar via the assembled doc, at that point. Could there perhaps be a toolbar appearing on-hover, in doc, for the relevant tiddler? Maybe with some kind of marking to show which exact section of the assembled doc it concerns, such as a differently colored background when hovering or a frame? I have some further thoughts if this at all sounds interesting. The idea is indeed to have in-place editing of content. There are several steps: * Support for edit mode, which makes the tiddler toolbars appear * Support for inserting new tiddlers under existing ones * Drag and drop to reorder items The current state of affairs is, as you've discovered, that switching a tiddler into edit mode will display the draft within the document. Is there a white paper, that allows us to see the concept, that you implemented, without the need of reverse engineering? It's pretty basic, if you understand the existing table of contents mechanism. It's based on child entries being tagged by their parent title. There is an issue. If I import the sliced tiddlers, they don't show up in the recent tab. So after closing the import tiddler, it is impossible to open the sliced tiddlers. I'll fix that. 1) What happens I change the title of a sliced tiddler. Does the structure fall apart? My next plan is to support renaming tiddlers properly by changing tag and list references to the tiddler (as per Danielo's plugin). 2) Are the auto created tiddlers still usable for tools like TiddlyMap, in a sane way? Hopefully. The idea is that by reusing the TOC structure it should fit well with existing tools. 3) What if I need to translate the content of individual tiddlers. Do I need to recreate the structure, or can I use the existing one? Especially the heading tiddlers. The plan is for each tiddler to have a language cascade, so that for example it will display de-AT content, falling back to de-DE and then en-GB 4) Is there a way to undo the slicing? The slicing is non-destructive, in that the tiddler you slice up is unchanged. Currently it will overwrite existing tiddlers if the titles of the extracted tiddler clash. 5) How can I export one eg heading with all its content, without forgetting some content tiddlers? When we support dragging multiple tiddlers in one go we should be able to support a drag handle that says drag this tiddler and all dependents. Alternatively, you can export the rendered version of the tiddler, which will include the transclusions. I'd label this plugin as highly experimental, since it completely changes the structure of a tiddlywiki and there is no undo atm. ... I'll clarify the labelling to indicate that it is experimental and subject to change, but I'm unsure what you mean by changing the structure of a TW. As I said above, the slicing operation is non-destructive. 1) I think slicing down to the paragraph level might be too far. It adds a lot of autogenerated cruft in the TOCs. There may be some need to go down to this level but I would make the delimiter for levels beyond just headings configurable/regexp-able. In the eCFR example above.
[tw] Plugin installs but doesn't work or install shadow tiddlers
I'm trying to install the Railroad plugin. However when I install it and try to use it, it says undefined widget railroad It says its installed but none of the shadow tiddlers it requires get installed so I'm guessing this is why its not working? What do I need to do? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/916150c9-1007-47af-8e10-fc72d2b9aa8f%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [tw] Re: [tw5] Text-Slicer Plugin
This idea, @Mario's point, about reverse engineering and Steve's off-the-cuff description of a potential conference theme (see Missing Tiddler below) sparked a thought. Many of the tasks I use TW for is to convert chunks of text into hypertext. I am at a curious stage with a text, there are various activities I find myself performing: 1) I am reverse engineering text a produced as a hypertext which I then removed all hypertext links to get the text into Harvard referencing format. 2) I find some text composed in an email and cut and pasted into my TW. It contains some references which don't exist in my TW The world of the Day Job consists of writing email, word docs and reading pdfs -- this is pretty much a given for many people. TW is an adaptable hypertext tool and as such brings all the benefits the hypertext pioneers write about. Converting texts (with combersome references, footnotes, endnotes etc) to hypertext is part of a wider ambition to make reading complex interconnected texts less of a burden on the mind. The conventions associated with referencing texts produces a cognitive overhead for the reader. Hypertext removes the need for pointing, establishing context and referencing, TW is a tool which helps the thinker manage these for him / her self --- Missing Tiddler - Draft conference theme Tiddlywiki can be envisioned and described within the broad vison of hypertext imagined by pioneers Vannevar Bush, Ted Nelson and Doug Englebart.* This conference will bring together users and developers within the Tiddlywiki ecosystem to consider, demonstrate and document the relationship between the Bush/Nelson/Englebart vision, and the Tiddlywiki (TW5) community's implementation, practices and techniques. [1] https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/e_zXAle8yRw/iV7Q7tlmAwAJ - On 2 August 2015 at 13:02, Alex Hough r.a.ho...@gmail.com wrote: @JayFresh makes a good point It's an example of allowing free-text to be the basic unit of entry, with the structure coming later and broadly though automated means. Sadly this is an insight most, if not all, productivity tools have failed to grasp - instead they make the unit the task which is a crazy constraint and assumption about how people think. I think this is a great feature. A use case arose for me: I created a missing tiddler, i copied and pasted the title of the tiddler into the search box. The search returns a tiddler -- a copy of an email: it is long and linear, structured in paragraphs. One of the paragraphs was relevant to my missing tiddler. Manually I'll create a new tiddler containing an edited version of the useful paragraph with links to the parent and the missing. Alex On 2 August 2015 at 11:27, Jeremy Ruston jeremy.rus...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the feedback everyone. Hi, even if the idea is good (please think of adding a select all/none option in the import process) there are hundreds of opened issues (some since 2013!) that needs your attention way more than this don't you think? The reason I'm working on this now is because I need it for my day job -- bear in mind that nobody pays me to work on TiddlyWiki :) It might be worth exploring your thoughts about the state of the TW5 issues list in a new thread. For me, I certainly don't see it as my todo list. It was surprising to see how the tiddler in edit mode also appears in the assembled document - I'm not sure this is intentional... but it is actually really good! I would prefer editing it at that local place before having it appear separately at some other place. But with the option to edit it separately (Ctrl+click?) But editing it in-doc would of course require some way to access that tiddlers toolbar via the assembled doc, at that point. Could there perhaps be a toolbar appearing on-hover, in doc, for the relevant tiddler? Maybe with some kind of marking to show which exact section of the assembled doc it concerns, such as a differently colored background when hovering or a frame? I have some further thoughts if this at all sounds interesting. The idea is indeed to have in-place editing of content. There are several steps: * Support for edit mode, which makes the tiddler toolbars appear * Support for inserting new tiddlers under existing ones * Drag and drop to reorder items The current state of affairs is, as you've discovered, that switching a tiddler into edit mode will display the draft within the document. Is there a white paper, that allows us to see the concept, that you implemented, without the need of reverse engineering? It's pretty basic, if you understand the existing table of contents mechanism. It's based on child entries being tagged by their parent title. There is an issue. If I import the sliced tiddlers, they don't show up in the recent tab. So after closing the import tiddler, it is impossible to open the sliced tiddlers. I'll fix that. 1) What happens I change
Re: [tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyChrome
Bloat doesn't always mean size, sometimes it means unwarranted complexity and distraction. I'm sure you think that embedded adverts in many apps are a distraction; some people pay to get rid of them even though the plus version of the app offers no great other enhancement. The situation I’m facing is having the file in the cloud, In one sense size = bandwidth = startup response. But the real kicker is the number of different browsers that might be used. Well, Ok a couple are for testing to make sure things always look acceptable. But having to replicate the likes of this for half a dozen or more browsers ... things get complicated. It gets complicated for support as well if some ancillary file needs to be on the portable device, or -shock/horror - at a particular location on the portable device. Not all strikesalesmen/strike end users are technically sophisticated enough to manage that. On Thursday, July 23, 2015 at 3:31:53 AM UTC-4, Danielo Rodríguez wrote: El miércoles, 22 de julio de 2015, 0:47:01 (UTC+2), Anton Aylward escribió: ... Is this the way we are going now? Have to bloat the html files with browser specific code for each and every possible browser that could be used in a multi-platform environment. This is actually the way TW works. TW comes with the needed module/code to interact with tiddlyfox, is just that you did not noticed it. I will not say that adding a small file of less than 100 lines is bloating your file. You need plugins in tw for many things, specially in TW classic. Try to find, for example, an android applicaton with the same functionality and you will see that they are over several MB in size. Regards -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/18926713-89a1-49fc-85ce-4fd75b99d795%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: Plugin installs but doesn't work or install shadow tiddlers
Thanks I reloaded and now the shadow tiddlers look installed but I now get another error. Everywhere where railroad is supposed to render a diagram it gives: TypeError: Parser is not a function On Sunday, 2 August 2015 18:51:54 UTC+1, Jed Carty wrote: It sounds like you didn't save and reload after installing the plugin. The shadow tiddlers won't look like they are installed until you do that. If you have saved and reloaded than check in the control panel under plugins to make sure you have enabled the plugin. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/a6be6b18-1a28-4c90-b426-c1764534a506%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyChrome
On Sunday, August 2, 2015 at 5:57:30 AM UTC-7, Anton Aylward wrote: Bloat doesn't always mean size, sometimes it means unwarranted complexity and distraction. Your use of the word unwarranted is... ummm... unwarranted. This word generally means not justified. However, in the case of TiddlyWiki file I/O, the complexity and distraction is virtually unavoidable because TiddlyWiki can only invoke functionality that is provided by the browser in which it is running. Modern browsers go to great lengths to ensure that they do not permit web pages to invoke *direct* file I/O operations, which would be a major security hole. Of course, all browsers do have the ability to do their own file I/O (i.e., download and save a file, read/write local cache, update config files, etc.). However, the only way a web page can access these internal file functions is by writing a browser-specific privileged add-on along with some custom scripting in the web page to invoke the add-on's functionality. This is what TiddlyFox and TiddlyChrome do. TiddlyWiki does the best it can within a restrictive browser environment. By default, without any add-on/plugin additions, it uses the browser's download and save handling to save a file. This works across nearly all browsers. In an ideal world, there would be one universal local file I/O solution that works for all browsers... but this is simply not the case. Note that HTML5 *does* have a FileWriter API, but it only writes to a sandbox area that the browser manages and the files in the sandbox are NOT really local files at all, they are merely data blobs managed by the browser. Further, the sandboxed files are tied to that specific browser. In this sense, they are more like giant cookies than actual files. But the real kicker is the number of different browsers that might be used. Well, Ok a couple are for testing to make sure things always look acceptable. But having to replicate the likes of this for half a dozen or more browsers ... things get complicated. It gets complicated for support as well if some ancillary file needs to be on the portable device, or -shock/horror - at a particular location on the portable device. Not all strikesalesmen/strike end users are technically sophisticated enough to manage that. The complication is somewhat intentional on the part of the browser makers. If working around their restrictions on file I/O was easy, it would defeat the purpose of restricting file I/O in the first place. Requiring installation of browser-specifc add-on code ensures that each user (or IT support person) makes a conscious choice to bypass these security measures. -e -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/a284dcb3-9db2-47ee-bf72-f96d9a922fdf%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyChrome
On Sunday, August 2, 2015 at 2:57:30 PM UTC+2, Anton Aylward wrote: Bloat doesn't always mean size, sometimes it means unwarranted complexity and distraction. I'm sure you think that embedded adverts in many apps are a distraction; some people pay to get rid of them even though the plus version of the app offers no great other enhancement. As I see it, the chromeSaver module is less then 70 lines of code. So I'm pretty sure, when the extension works in a stable way, that this possibility can be included into the core. TiddlyWiki already has some similar decisions to make, if TiddlyFox is installed. Having the core deal with it, also will reduce the complexity for the user. ... See, this is the first announcement of a great improvement for the TW community. .. So test it and kick the tires but not the author. The situation I’m facing is having the file in the cloud, In one sense size = bandwidth = startup response. But the real kicker is the number of different browsers that might be used. Well, Ok a couple are for testing to make sure things always look acceptable. You are right. That's the stuff developers have to deal with. Browser vendors made great steps into unifying the plattform but there are still quite some quirks, we have to deal with every day. But having to replicate the likes of this for half a dozen or more browsers ... things get complicated. It gets complicated for support as well if some ancillary file needs to be on the portable device, or -shock/horror - at a particular location on the portable device. Not all strikesalesmen/strike end users are technically sophisticated enough to manage that. The funny thing is, that portable devices are easier to handle, since they don't have to deal with IE6/7/8/x compatibility problems. Most mobile browsers are based on webkit, which is the engine Chrome, Safari, Opera and many more browsers use. The problem with mobile devices on the other hand is. Saving TW in a unified way, is an unsolved problem. have fun! mario -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/0cafb6f0-d7e7-4b10-9c17-61126422f500%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: Plugin installs but doesn't work or install shadow tiddlers
It sounds like you didn't save and reload after installing the plugin. The shadow tiddlers won't look like they are installed until you do that. If you have saved and reloaded than check in the control panel under plugins to make sure you have enabled the plugin. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/87814da2-faab-4906-8678-36f7f4caed96%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [tw5] Text-Slicer Plugin
Thanks for your info! On Sunday, August 2, 2015 at 12:28:05 PM UTC+2, Jeremy Ruston wrote: I'd label this plugin as highly experimental, since it completely changes the structure of a tiddlywiki and there is no undo atm. ... I'll clarify the labelling to indicate that it is experimental and subject to change, but I'm unsure what you mean by changing the structure of a TW. As I said above, the slicing operation is non-destructive. Hmmm, So slicing basically means, that some content is duplicated and the user is responsible for the destructive delete action. That's ok. Your content is yours and you are responsible for your own actions :) But still, if I as a user, delete the source tiddler, I'm bound to the new structure and converting it back may be a lot of work, depending on the original tiddler size. That's why I think it is important, that the user understands the new structure, that is created by the plugin. ... So in the case, that I need to reunite the pieces, this should be also easy. All in all, I'm very pleased, with the: The Tiddler is the Thing approach and the new possibilities that I can see with this extension. have fun! mario -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/67df8627-acbe-4e46-8f35-b96c592470bf%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: Iframe Webpage
Hi Maybe my article Iframing a section of a webpage http://twaddle.tiddlyspot.com/#Iframing%20a%20section%20of%20a%20webpage can be of help? :-) *TWaddling http://twaddle.tiddlyspot.com since 1915* On Sunday, August 2, 2015 at 11:10:02 AM UTC+2, Wolf Bite wrote: i'm showing webpages in tiddly classic 2.8.1 ie but want to be able to set where it starts the display ie but it ALWAYS starts top left html iframe src =http://weather.perthnow.com.au; marginheight=0 marginwidth=0 height=600px width=680px align=left frameborder=1 /iframe /html I've read and tried various margins, align, and others (but not sure if was a synatx or implementation issue) I think I've heard it refered to as webpage splicing but what I want is to be able to set the start viewing location is it even possable? regards -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/4d89d446-85a6-4c6a-a1dc-6b97ea16eeaa%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: TW5 - Suggestions for truly long term use?
Rick, My largest TW is 14.5 kb and was started in 2008 based on a theme by Morris Gray's who modified No Brainer notes. I think the greatest problem is not size but technical obsolescence my version is TW classic and I haven't been successfully been able to update past 2.7.1 because all the next version wrecked all the formatting and macros and I had no idea how to fix them and they didn't seem to be there in the post classic version TW 5. Iain -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/cb5401c8-8936-4419-99a9-a685fffdea81%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: [tw5] Text-Slicer Plugin
Minor thing -- hovering over the pair of scissors the tip text says Clone this tiddler. What do you not like in the current sample text? Is it the Latin? Mark On Saturday, August 1, 2015 at 5:31:06 AM UTC-7, Jeremy Ruston wrote: I've just pushed a new prerelease that includes an early cut of a tool to slice longer texts into individual tiddlers based on headings and lists. It's based on ideas that have come up in previous discussions about dealing with long, structured tiddlers. You can try it out at: http://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/editions/text-slicer/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/a094fbd0-0dcf-4221-836e-633f1e0cee48%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [tw] Re: [tw5] Text-Slicer Plugin
This is slightly off topic I wanted to take a list of references from a paper (in Pdf format) Then I cut and paste the text into a tiddler, the paragraph formating is lost. Can anyone suggest a quick way of adding back the spaces between the lines to that I can then split the tiddler using the new tool. I think this could be a great tool for the education tiddlywiki project. With a few adaptions, you could cut and paste a list of references and get a set of tiddlers pre-populated with date, author and paper title fields. they could then be displayed on a timeline. It wouild be useful for a literature review Alex On 2 August 2015 at 21:08, 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com wrote: Minor thing -- hovering over the pair of scissors the tip text says Clone this tiddler. What do you not like in the current sample text? Is it the Latin? Mark On Saturday, August 1, 2015 at 5:31:06 AM UTC-7, Jeremy Ruston wrote: I've just pushed a new prerelease that includes an early cut of a tool to slice longer texts into individual tiddlers based on headings and lists. It's based on ideas that have come up in previous discussions about dealing with long, structured tiddlers. You can try it out at: http://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/editions/text-slicer/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/a094fbd0-0dcf-4221-836e-633f1e0cee48%40googlegroups.com https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/a094fbd0-0dcf-4221-836e-633f1e0cee48%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=emailutm_source=footer . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/CALc1hYdo1Aw-_tmq-BGVUpG3sUdU7Ayhc-_PC%2Bg0rGeJ0Hyvhw%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] filter operator days
I wrote a new filter operator days to replace (or maybe in addition to) the recent operator that was merged into pre-release some time ago. Could you test it and let me know if the logic makes sense. Thank you. (Sharing it from my Copy account, the link may go dead at any time.) https://copy.com/pO624sG8Y6TRVAjP -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/6c02b364-ba04-4bb3-b9a5-39b3e7ac8917%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [tw] Re: [tw5] Text-Slicer Plugin
Everyone should have a favorite editor for just such emergencies. You need an editor that can see and replace a single line return with a double line return. I usually use Emacs for this kind of thing. In the past, I've also used Notetab for Windows. I believe Word will let you search for special codes. Stuff coming off of PDF files often doesn't have quite the same arrangement as what you see on screen. It may help to try different PDF readers (older versions of Adobe had more copy options). There are also converters to turn PDF into text. Calibre is the only one I know of that's free. You will probably always be stuck doing a little fix-it by hand. -- Mark On Sunday, August 2, 2015 at 1:36:55 PM UTC-7, AlexHough wrote: This is slightly off topic I wanted to take a list of references from a paper (in Pdf format) Then I cut and paste the text into a tiddler, the paragraph formating is lost. Can anyone suggest a quick way of adding back the spaces between the lines to that I can then split the tiddler using the new tool. I think this could be a great tool for the education tiddlywiki project. With a few adaptions, you could cut and paste a list of references and get a set of tiddlers pre-populated with date, author and paper title fields. they could then be displayed on a timeline. It wouild be useful for a literature review Alex On 2 August 2015 at 21:08, 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki tiddl...@googlegroups.com javascript: wrote: Minor thing -- hovering over the pair of scissors the tip text says Clone this tiddler. What do you not like in the current sample text? Is it the Latin? Mark On Saturday, August 1, 2015 at 5:31:06 AM UTC-7, Jeremy Ruston wrote: I've just pushed a new prerelease that includes an early cut of a tool to slice longer texts into individual tiddlers based on headings and lists. It's based on ideas that have come up in previous discussions about dealing with long, structured tiddlers. You can try it out at: http://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/editions/text-slicer/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to tiddl...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/a094fbd0-0dcf-4221-836e-633f1e0cee48%40googlegroups.com https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/a094fbd0-0dcf-4221-836e-633f1e0cee48%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=emailutm_source=footer . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/2709c092-2681-47aa-8eb5-d138771a6683%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
