date:20171027

Ciao PMario

Small tech comment on the minor sound issue that TonyM wrote about. 
Auto-on-off gates are more trouble than they are worth. In my experience 
the single biggest issue is the quality of the microphone and its 
type--some are much better for this type of thing. If you are going to do a 
lot of this type of recording its perhaps worth buying one. A mid level 
effective way is to record sound using a dedicated recording device 
separate from computer and sync the sound later. But that's likely more 
hassle and cost than you need. I would look at mike types though. If you 
need info on options you can send me a private message.

J.

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[tw] Re: Can I use Alain Dutech's comptext editor within the Edit-Text Widget?

Ciao Jan

I'm just hopping in here as I seen you sent this message twice. I can't 
answer the question since I don't know that plugin or how it works. But I 
was interested by how your screenwriter is shaping-up. Its looking good. 

Am I right in thinking that from within the script you want links to each 
character? Meaning: every dialogue "CHARACTER" is linked to a Tiddler for 
that character?

In my own playing I'm looking at automating links to tiddlers for all 
characters and main scene headings (INT / EXT etc.) using regular 
expressions without having to manually do anything. I'm slow, but hope to 
get something workable fairly soon that may be relevant? 

Best wishes
Josiah

On Thursday, 26 October 2017 15:48:10 UTC+2, Jan wrote:
>
> Hej!
> I am still working on my screen-editor http://storywriting.tiddlyspot.com/
> I am building a sort of modal-window in which I would like to edit longer 
> texts (dialogues) and therefor would like to use Alain Dutech's comptext 
> editor http://snowgoon88.github.io/TW5-extendedit which automatically 
> fills in the rolenames.
> <$edit-text tiddler="$:/state/sortboard/edit" field="text" 
> type="comptext"/> is not working
>
>
> Yours Jan 
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[tw] Re: Can I use Alain Dutech's comptext editor within the Edit-Text Widget?

2017-10-27 Thread Birthe C

Hi, Jan.
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/0b0UDzyjGp0/zMH0Kh2hAgAJ
I know the link is to an old thread and that the plugin was opdated later 
on to work with the editor toolbar. You cannot use Edit-text widget. Tobias 
Beer adviced using Edit widget.


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[tw] Re: TW5 Is there a way to filter for tiddlers with fields that contain a string of text?

2017-10-27 Thread Stefan Spycher

I'm interested in the same. @Aaron, can you post your solution?

Thanks

Stefan

Am Montag, 5. Juni 2017 22:14:15 UTC+2 schrieb Aaron Haslem:
>
>
>
> Took me a few tries to figure out the structure, but that works great.  
> Exactly what I was looking for.  Thanks Mat.
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Re: [tw] Re: Testers needed for TiddlyServer

2017-10-27 Thread Arlen Beiler

The backup feature could probably be better described as a complete version
history. I can disable e-tags if someone is using backups and they won't
lose anything.

The other option is to add a setting that would allow you to set a time
window within which an e-tag is valid. So if most of your e-tags are off by
one second, you can set a window of five seconds and a request with an Etag
that is within 5 seconds of the modified time will get saved.

On Oct 26, 2017 2:25 PM, "@TiddlyTweeter" wrote:

The whole question of backup in TW is something that has interested me from
when I started.

I have formed an OPINION on it.

(1) its nice when it can be made to work seamlessly from within TW. A
plus--but not a necessity. I'd rather programmers didn't struggle over it
though. I'd rather they paid central attention to keeping TW up and
running--something only they can do.

(2) backup is very appropriately handled by Backup Programs. The good ones
give multiple options that far exceed anything TW can do because they are
dedicated to that one task.

Best wishes
Josiah

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Re: [tw] Re: Testers needed for TiddlyServer

Ciao Arlen

Arlen Beiler wrote:
>
> The backup feature could probably be better described as a complete 
> version history.
>

Right. I think that is more accurate and alerts users its advisable to do 
"redundant backup" too. Its just basic when you invest effort into projects 
to do that. The what-is-ness of conventional backup to a different 
location/disk has merit that IMO constantly needs emphasizing as primary. 

It's great you want to support versioning. I benefit from it. But I never 
think that somehow its an obligation. Its great you get the TW working for 
free already.

Best wishes
Josiah

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Re: [tw] Re: INTRO: A script and todo manager workflow / UI experiment + video howto's

2017-10-27 Thread Eneko Gotzon

For non English native speakers like me it would be beneficial to use
YouTube's automatic captioning
 feature (and to
try to pronounce as well as clear as possible :).

Thank you very much, code sorcerers!

On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 1:57 PM, PMario  wrote:

> Hi foks,
>
> Just uploaded the 4th video: Script Todo - layout and styles - 04
> 
>
> It contains a description, how the "script-list" view was created, about
> the CSS used and a layout overview.
>
> According to the feedback form Tony, I have tweaked the audio settings a
> bit. So please tell me, if it is better for you now!
>
> The next 2 videos will discuss the ToDo-list layout and the "new todo"
> layout in more detail.
>
> As always: Feedback very welcome! ... Also *subscribe to the channel and
> Hit the Like-Button ;)*
>
> have fun!
> mario
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Re: [tw] Re: Testers needed for TiddlyServer

2017-10-27 Thread coda coder

On Friday, October 27, 2017 at 7:38:48 AM UTC-5, Arlen Beiler wrote:
>
> The backup feature could probably be better described as a complete 
> version history. I can disable e-tags if someone is using backups and they 
> won't lose anything. 
>

I don't know the detail, unfortunately, but if disabling e-tags is in 
essence what I was asking you for, that's the option I (personally) would 
prefer.

>
> The other option is to add a setting that would allow you to set a time 
> window within which an e-tag is valid. So if most of your e-tags are off by 
> one second, you can set a window of five seconds and a request with an Etag 
> that is within 5 seconds of the modified time will get saved.
>

There's a difference between backing up a TW when it is first opened from 
disk and backing up on a save-by-save basis.  I'm assuming we're talking 
about the former, not the latter.  The former is what I assume you mean by 
"version history".

I already have that in place and don't see any need to change it, though I 
maybe would if I felt the need -- can't imagine what that need might be 
though.

As regards the time window... any code that takes a "best guess" at the 
appropriate period of time is likely to suffer from distrust.  Also, I have 
some wikis that are open for weeks and many others that are transient 
throughout a single day.  Some are modified a lot, others rarely.  I just 
don't know what time period I'd pick.  And then I'd always wonder if my 
next save was going to suffer a 412 because I'd chosen a poor "best guess" 
period.  Hence, distrust.

Really, honestly, I'd prefer no time checking at all.  Then, as I said 
above, TS would become usable (and, trustworthy).

>
> On Oct 26, 2017 2:25 PM, "@TiddlyTweeter"  > wrote:
>
> The whole question of backup in TW is something that has interested me 
> from when I started.
>
> I have formed an OPINION on it. 
>
> (1) its nice when it can be made to work seamlessly from within TW. A 
> plus--but not a necessity. I'd rather programmers didn't struggle over it 
> though. I'd rather they paid central attention to keeping TW up and 
> running--something only they can do.
>
> (2) backup is very appropriately handled by Backup Programs. The good ones 
> give multiple options that far exceed anything TW can do because they are 
> dedicated to that one task.
>
> Best wishes
> Josiah
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Re: [tw] Re: Testers needed for TiddlyServer

2017-10-27 Thread coda coder

Let me say this another way...

A PUT request is an undeniable request made by the client,  Honor it.  
Honor it and let the issuer own the consequences.


On Friday, October 27, 2017 at 9:35:43 AM UTC-5, coda coder wrote:
>
>
>
> On Friday, October 27, 2017 at 7:38:48 AM UTC-5, Arlen Beiler wrote:
>>
>> The backup feature could probably be better described as a complete 
>> version history. I can disable e-tags if someone is using backups and they 
>> won't lose anything. 
>>
>
> I don't know the detail, unfortunately, but if disabling e-tags is in 
> essence what I was asking you for, that's the option I (personally) would 
> prefer.
>  
>
>>
>> The other option is to add a setting that would allow you to set a time 
>> window within which an e-tag is valid. So if most of your e-tags are off by 
>> one second, you can set a window of five seconds and a request with an Etag 
>> that is within 5 seconds of the modified time will get saved.
>>
>
> There's a difference between backing up a TW when it is first opened from 
> disk and backing up on a save-by-save basis.  I'm assuming we're talking 
> about the former, not the latter.  The former is what I assume you mean by 
> "version history".
>
> I already have that in place and don't see any need to change it, though I 
> maybe would if I felt the need -- can't imagine what that need might be 
> though.
>
> As regards the time window... any code that takes a "best guess" at the 
> appropriate period of time is likely to suffer from distrust.  Also, I have 
> some wikis that are open for weeks and many others that are transient 
> throughout a single day.  Some are modified a lot, others rarely.  I just 
> don't know what time period I'd pick.  And then I'd always wonder if my 
> next save was going to suffer a 412 because I'd chosen a poor "best guess" 
> period.  Hence, distrust.
>
> Really, honestly, I'd prefer no time checking at all.  Then, as I said 
> above, TS would become usable (and, trustworthy).
>  
>
>>
>> On Oct 26, 2017 2:25 PM, "@TiddlyTweeter"  wrote:
>>
>> The whole question of backup in TW is something that has interested me 
>> from when I started.
>>
>> I have formed an OPINION on it. 
>>
>> (1) its nice when it can be made to work seamlessly from within TW. A 
>> plus--but not a necessity. I'd rather programmers didn't struggle over it 
>> though. I'd rather they paid central attention to keeping TW up and 
>> running--something only they can do.
>>
>> (2) backup is very appropriately handled by Backup Programs. The good 
>> ones give multiple options that far exceed anything TW can do because they 
>> are dedicated to that one task.
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Josiah
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[tw] ordering custom sidebar tabs

2017-10-27 Thread Captain Packers

I'm wondering if there is a way to order custom sidebar tabs relative to 
one another. I know how to use the list-before and list-after options, but 
it seems these must be relative to a  $:/core/ui/SideBar/"TabName" to work 
properly. Is there a way to order two custom tabs relative to one another? 
For example, I tried editing "TabA" and using list-after 
$:/tags/SideBar/TabB, but to no avail. I want them all to be before "Open", 
but I want to control the order.

Thanks in advance.

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[tw] Re: INTRO: A script and todo manager workflow / UI experiment + video howto's

Ciao PMario,

I see Part 3 online. I can't see it mentioned on Google Groups??? But is it 
just me missing it here?

Best wishes
Josiah

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[tw] Re: ordering custom sidebar tabs

2017-10-27 Thread Ton Gerner

Hi,

Assume:
Tiddler TabA tagged with $:/tags/SideBar and a list-before field containing 
$:/core/ui/SideBar/Open so TabA will be the first tab.
If you want Tiddler TabB tagged with $:/tags/SideBar before TabA, you can 
use a list-before field in TabB containing TabA.
That should work.

Other option: you can edit the list field of $:/tags/SideBar by hand.

Cheers,

Ton

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Re: [tw] Re: INTRO: A script and todo manager workflow / UI experiment + video howto's

Ciao PMario

Tech sidenote: Auto-captioning on YT is rarely as good as its claimed. I 
think its usually too much work to get into. BUT the tech behind it IS 
getting better and maybe it works better now?

In the past you had to speak like a robot if you wanted it automatic. 
YouTube is a PRIMITIVE instrument. Professional software like Premiere and 
Avid do it quite well. 

I think your spoken English is good. 

IF you want on screen words then I think you'll have to write them & 
display them unless YT has got factors better than it was.

Best wishes
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Re: [tw] Re: Can I use Alain Dutech's comptext editor within the Edit-Text Widget?


Hi Josiah,


Am I right in thinking that from within the script you want links to 
each character? Meaning: every dialogue "CHARACTER" is linked to a 
Tiddler for that character?


Yes, that is the way you do it...The rolenames are inserte by 
transcluding them from a tiddler with this name. This makes it possible 
to change the rolename or to lin a role to an actor.
The Tiddler is tagged role and just contains the <> macro as 
text.  You can use the sidebar menu to create it.



cheers Jan

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Re: [tw] Re: Can I use Alain Dutech's comptext editor within the Edit-Text Widget?

Hi Birthe!
Strike, it seems to work!
I will try to finish it with this trick.

Thanks a lot.
Jan

Am 27.10.2017 um 13:54 schrieb Birthe C:

Hi, Jan.
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/0b0UDzyjGp0/zMH0Kh2hAgAJ
I know the link is to an old thread and that the plugin was opdated
later on to work with the editor toolbar. You cannot use Edit-text
widget. Tobias Beer adviced using Edit widget.

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Re: [tw] Re: Can I use Alain Dutech's comptext editor within the Edit-Text Widget?

Hej Birthe.
A small Update: It shows the Popup with possible completitions if I type
the pattern in the editfield created...but then it does not
insert/change the text as it should if I type return.

So the Problem is only half solved.

Yours Jan

Am 27.10.2017 um 21:06 schrieb Jan:

Hi Birthe!
Strike, it seems to work!
I will try to finish it with this trick.

Thanks a lot.
Jan

Am 27.10.2017 um 13:54 schrieb Birthe C:

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Re: [tw] Re: Can I use Alain Dutech's comptext editor within the Edit-Text Widget?

Update update update
Sorry for bothering the rest of you. Sometimes insert works... but not
as stable as normally.

Sometimes it works...sometimes it throws the embarrassing red screen.
I will keep working and testing this.

Cheers
Jan

Am 27.10.2017 um 21:14 schrieb Jan:

Hej Birthe.
A small Update: It shows the Popup with possible completitions if I
type the pattern in the editfield created...but then it does not
insert/change the text as it should if I type return.

So the Problem is only half solved.

Yours Jan

Am 27.10.2017 um 21:06 schrieb Jan:

Hi Birthe!
Strike, it seems to work!
I will try to finish it with this trick.

Thanks a lot.
Jan

Am 27.10.2017 um 13:54 schrieb Birthe C:

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Re: [tw] Re: ordering custom sidebar tabs

2017-10-27 Thread Don Lund

The second option worked. The first did not.

Thanks

Regards,
Don Lund
Milan, MI

Love so amazing, so divine,
Demands my soul, my life, my all.
*Isaac Watts, pub.1707*

On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 11:45 AM, Ton Gerner  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Assume:
> Tiddler TabA tagged with $:/tags/SideBar and a list-before field
> containing $:/core/ui/SideBar/Open so TabA will be the first tab.
> If you want Tiddler TabB tagged with $:/tags/SideBar before TabA, you can
> use a list-before field in TabB containing TabA.
> That should work.
>
> Other option: you can edit the list field of $:/tags/SideBar by hand.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ton
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[tw] [Plugin] Dropboard 1.0.0 — Kanban like organization in the style of Trello using boards, lists, and cards.

2017-10-27 Thread Reid Gould

Dropboard 1.0.0

Dropboard version 1 has arrived! It is now safe, stable, and ready for use
as a permanent installation in your wikis.

See the source on GitHub:
https://github.com/reidgould/tiddlywiki-dropboard

Learn from the examples and documentation in the User Guide:
http://reidgould.github.io/tiddlywiki-dropboard

Here's a quick overview of the major features.

Kanban like organization in the style of Trello using boards, lists, and
cards... But better!
Dropboard has:

- Full integration with TiddlyWiki. Drag any tiddler into a board.
- Collapsible lists that you can still drag cards into.
- Lots of features to improve workflow and setup the view of your board
to be just right for the task at hand.

View and edit a huge amount of data at once using window mode and scaling
down your font size.

A full Trello style palette for TiddlyWiki called TWello!

Dropboard has been made completely by myself on my own time, and it's taken
quite a lot of it! The reason I spent the time to complete this project is
to be a key part of my design portfolio as I transition my career into
Software Engineering.

I have a list of features that I would love to add to create a Dropboard
version 2.0.0, but unfortunately this is all the time I can spend on this
project for free. If you're interested in supporting the next version of
this plugin you can support me on Patreon.

https://www.patreon.com/reidgould

Special thanks to all the community members
who
offered some great suggestions and helped hunt down bugs!
Only the best for you and your wikis,
[image: Reid Gould]
www.ReidGould.com
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[tw] Re: Presenting: BLC Plugin! For kanban like organization in the style of Trello using boards, lists, and cards.

2017-10-27 Thread Reid Gould



Dropboard  version 1.0.0 
has arrived!

See the new post here 
 for an 
overview of major features. There are some new examples and much more 
information in the User Guide now, so take a look around.

If you want to upgrade a wiki from an older version, there's just one extra 
step you should follow:

   - Uninstall Dropboard 0.X.X
   - For each tiddler you have used as a board:
  - Search for "Tiddler Name" and remove any tiddlers that have names 
  like these (if you haven't been using the controls on the banner, there 
may 
  be none.):
 - Tiddler Name-BoardHeight_Stage
 - Tiddler Name-ListWidt_Stage
 - Tiddler Name-SearchListFilter_Live
 - Tiddler Name-SearchListFilter_Stage
 - Tiddler Name-UserFilter_Live
 - Tiddler Name-UserFilter_Stage
 - Click the edit button and in the "fields" area at the bottom, 
  delete any fields with these names (if you haven't been using the 
controls 
  on the banner, there may be none.):
 - 
 - listwidth-em
 - listwidth-num
 - boardheight
 - displayimages
 - displaytext
 - widthismax
 - collapse_in
  - Install Dropboard 1.0.0 and shortid Plugin (both found on the User 
   Guide)

Thanks for all your help getting Dropboard this far!

Regards,
[image: Reid Gould]
www.ReidGould.com  
(210) 617-0712 
/in/reidgould  
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On Friday, October 6, 2017 at 3:38:04 PM UTC-5, Reid Gould wrote:
>
> To all,
>
> Dropboard is almost here!
>
> All features and interface changes for version 1 are now done. STILL WAIT 
> to use it in a permanent installation, very soon it will be renamed to 
> "Dropboard" and any last bugs found ironed out.
>
> Over in the dev group (post here 
> ), I'm 
> asking for code review of "Release Candidate 1" from any developers who 
> would be so generous with their time. I need help making sure this plugin 
> is as stable and safe to use as possible!
>
> Some notable changes are:
>
>- Restyle of the Control Banner for a much slimmer look.
>- Button to view the board in the SideBar.
>- Button to open the board in a new window, maximized and with 
>sensible display options.
>- "shorttext" now displays WikiText formatting reliably for inline 
>styles, including making images and icons fit on a line of text.
>- "shorttext" now warns the user if a newline is typed in the edit 
>template.
>- Many fixes of other display issues, especially so the board looks 
>good at small and large text sizes.
>- Large improvements in internal handling of board state and code 
>quality.
>
> When Dropboard is released, the "User Guide" wiki will have many more 
> examples of use and much more documentation about how it works, so 
> hopefully everyone will be able to find any good bits I forgot to mention 
> in the change lists for these previews.
>
> Happy tagging,
>
> - Reid
>
>
> On Saturday, September 16, 2017 at 4:05:10 PM UTC-5, Reid Gould wrote:
>>
>> To all,
>>
>> The third and final "feature preview" release is available! Version 0.1.3 
>> contains all the features I'm planning on including in the version 1 
>> release. This version should contain no bugs or unexpected behaviors. STILL 
>> WAIT to use it in a permanent installation, I'm tidying up internal naming 
>> and how I'm saving some of the temporary state associated with boards and I 
>> won't be providing an upgrade path from version 0 to version 1.
>>
>> New features and significant changes include:
>>
>>- The "Search Filter" list. when a filter is typed into this control, 
>>a special list appears on the side which contains results from tiddlers 
>> in 
>>the wiki that are outside the board. This is very handy way to import 
>>tiddlers onto the board, or maybe even to pop up a temporary board just 
>> to 
>>quickly sort a bunch of tiddlers into tags, then delete the board if you 
>>don't need it.
>>- "New Card" now generates titles using the shortid plugin, which 
>>makes a string of letters and numbers that is URL friendly and 
>>cryptographically guaranteed to be unique. The old way just used a 
>>timestamp, which is not good for sharing with others and redundant with 
>> the 
>>"created" field.
>>- Improved "boardHeight" and "listWidth" controls, including the 
>>ability to snap to a number of lists visible that will change with the 
>> size 
>>of your window, and the ability to set the height to 100% to fit 
>> perfectly 
>>when using "Open in a New Window". 
>>- Board title shows up in the separated windows.
>>- More powerful user filter for cards on the board. The user filter

[tw] Re: [Plugin] Dropboard 1.0.0 — Kanban like organization in the style of Trello using boards, lists, and cards.

2017-10-27 Thread David Szego

Unbelievably cool and useful. Thank you for bringing this to the community! 

- David Szego

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[tw] [TW5] Formatting or styling needed to display text in a box

2017-10-27 Thread AndrewMc

Hi All

I am wanting to emphasise certain lines of text by surrounding them with a 
box.
Can anyone describe how this could be done, or point me to information that 
might help?

I am quite new to TW5 and am wondering whether if there is a widget for 
this kind of thing, or if I can or should try to create and then apply 
custom style.

Cheers
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[tw] [TW5] ViewTemplate strange behaviour

2017-10-27 Thread mauloop

I was playing with $:/core/ui/ViewTemplate in search of ways to change the
tiddlers' look while I encountered something strange. It can be easily
reproduced online on tiddlywiki.com site.

1. Go to http://tiddlywiki.com/
2. Edit the shadow tiddler $:/core/ui/ViewTemplate
3. Find the opening tag, immediately following the <$tiddler>
widget declaration
...<$tiddler tiddler=<...

4. Place the cursor between the <$tiddler> and the and insert a
newline
...<$tiddler tiddler=<>>
>>...

5. Save and close, overwriting the shadow tiddler

Now click on any link in the page (both in the story or in the sidebar): it
seems that tiddlers are opened, but the page doesn't scroll to the clicked
tiddler. Il looks very strange to me that simply adding a newline could
change the wiki behaviour.

I first found something similar on a wiki I was working on, with a little
different result. In that case I had a *working* custom ViewTemplate with
more changes and I inserted some newline to make the code more readable.
When I saved the "beautified" ViewTemplate it happened that clicking on any
link raised a Javascript error.

TypeError: this.getLastFrame(...).getBoundingClientRect is not a function

I rolled back my newline one by one, until I came to this and the error was
fixed. So I decided to test it on the Tiddlywiki site to see if it was just
because of my changes. As I said on the site the behaviour is also
unexpected, even if a little bit different.

I was wandering why the ViewTemplate code has been written on a single
line. Now I realize that maybe it was for a reason like this.

Also I don't understand the meaning of:

<$tiddler tiddler=<>>

since the TiddlerWidget reference tells: *The TiddlerWidget
is used to set a value for the
current tiddler variable.* I
fell in a loop. Please, help me.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] ViewTemplate strange behaviour

2017-10-27 Thread mauloop

I run one more test on tiddlywiki.com

Changed all the stuff in the ViewTemplate from:

\define frame-classes()
tc-tiddler-frame tc-tiddler-view-frame $(missingTiddlerClass)$ 
$(shadowTiddlerClass)$ $(systemTiddlerClass)$ $(tiddlerTagClasses)$
\end
\define folded-state()
$:/state/folded/$(currentTiddler)$
\end
<$set name="storyTiddler" value=<>><$set 
name="tiddlerInfoState" value=<>><$tiddler tiddler=<<$list 
filter="[all[shadows+tiddlers]tag[$:/tags/ViewTemplate]!has[draft.of]]" 
variable="listItem"><$transclude tiddler=<>/>



to (just added some newline):

\define frame-classes()
tc-tiddler-frame tc-tiddler-view-frame $(missingTiddlerClass)$ 
$(shadowTiddlerClass)$ $(systemTiddlerClass)$ $(tiddlerTagClasses)$
\end

\define folded-state()
$:/state/folded/$(currentTiddler)$
\end

<$set name="storyTiddler" value=<>><$set 
name="tiddlerInfoState" value=<>><$tiddler tiddler=<
<$list 
filter="[all[shadows+tiddlers]tag[$:/tags/ViewTemplate]!has[draft.of]]" 
variable="listItem">
<$transclude tiddler=<>/>







It is no possible to separate with any kind  of blank (I tried newline and 
space) the two SetWidget, the TiddlerWidget and the Div. It is still 
possible, as usual, to insert newlines between the opening and closing tag 
brackets (<>).

I can survive with this. I just would like to understand why.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Formatting or styling needed to display text in a box

2017-10-27 Thread Birthe C

Hi Andrew,

This is the way I used :

@@display:block;width:50%;border:1px solid black;padding:5px;The text you 
want to emphasise. Chance the style as you want, and perhaps use the button 
in the editor toolbar to create a snippet to use over and over again.@@


Hope you enjoy Tiddlywiki - it is very addictive.
Birthe



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[tw] Sharing/Keeping Tiddlers in sync for different users

2017-10-27 Thread Diego Mesa

Hey all,

I have a "math" section of my tiddlywiki, as does my friend. This has led 
us to wonder how we can work together on editing this "branch" of our 
wikis. 

   1. Can you see the "version history" of changes on a tiddler?
   2. Is there some existing method to share all tiddlers belonging to tag?
   3. Is there some way to not just share, but keep them "in sync" between 
   multiple places? I suppose this would be difficult, as we both use one-file 
   installations of tiddlywiki.

If none of the above exist, is there some other way the community suggests?

Thanks!
Diego

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Re: [tw] Re: Testers needed for TiddlyServer

2017-10-27 Thread Arlen Beiler

The time window would work something like this.

Let's say you have the wiki open in one tab and you do some editing and the
changes get saved. Can you open it in another tab or window or on another
computer, and make some changes there. Then you come back to the first
computer or tab and without thinking you make some changes and they
automatically get saved. If neither the backup feature nor Etag is enabled,
your changes are irretrievable lost, unless your backup system already
grabbed them as soon as they were written.

The backup feature of TiddlyServer lets you retrieve that old version, and
the e-tag prevents it from being overwritten in the first place.

Now if I would put a time window in place of, say, 10 seconds, it would be
able to save only if the file on disk is nor more than 10 seconds newer
than the version loaded in the browser. If it was modified more than 10
seconds later than the version in the browser it would not be able to save.
This would be a setting in settings.json so the user could adjust it
according to the need.

Interesting thought, I will consider it.

Arlen

On Oct 27, 2017 10:41, "coda coder"  wrote:

> Let me say this another way...
>
> A PUT request is an undeniable request made by the client,  Honor it.
> Honor it and let the issuer own the consequences.
>
>
> On Friday, October 27, 2017 at 9:35:43 AM UTC-5, coda coder wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, October 27, 2017 at 7:38:48 AM UTC-5, Arlen Beiler wrote:
>>>
>>> The backup feature could probably be better described as a complete
>>> version history. I can disable e-tags if someone is using backups and they
>>> won't lose anything.
>>>
>>
>> I don't know the detail, unfortunately, but if disabling e-tags is in
>> essence what I was asking you for, that's the option I (personally) would
>> prefer.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> The other option is to add a setting that would allow you to set a time
>>> window within which an e-tag is valid. So if most of your e-tags are off by
>>> one second, you can set a window of five seconds and a request with an Etag
>>> that is within 5 seconds of the modified time will get saved.
>>>
>>
>> There's a difference between backing up a TW when it is first opened from
>> disk and backing up on a save-by-save basis.  I'm assuming we're talking
>> about the former, not the latter.  The former is what I assume you mean by
>> "version history".
>>
>> I already have that in place and don't see any need to change it, though
>> I maybe would if I felt the need -- can't imagine what that need might be
>> though.
>>
>> As regards the time window... any code that takes a "best guess" at the
>> appropriate period of time is likely to suffer from distrust.  Also, I have
>> some wikis that are open for weeks and many others that are transient
>> throughout a single day.  Some are modified a lot, others rarely.  I just
>> don't know what time period I'd pick.  And then I'd always wonder if my
>> next save was going to suffer a 412 because I'd chosen a poor "best guess"
>> period.  Hence, distrust.
>>
>> Really, honestly, I'd prefer no time checking at all.  Then, as I said
>> above, TS would become usable (and, trustworthy).
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 26, 2017 2:25 PM, "@TiddlyTweeter"  wrote:
>>>
>>> The whole question of backup in TW is something that has interested me
>>> from when I started.
>>>
>>> I have formed an OPINION on it.
>>>
>>> (1) its nice when it can be made to work seamlessly from within TW. A
>>> plus--but not a necessity. I'd rather programmers didn't struggle over it
>>> though. I'd rather they paid central attention to keeping TW up and
>>> running--something only they can do.
>>>
>>> (2) backup is very appropriately handled by Backup Programs. The good
>>> ones give multiple options that far exceed anything TW can do because they
>>> are dedicated to that one task.
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>> Josiah
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[tw] Re: TW5 Is there a way to filter for tiddlers with fields that contain a string of text?

Stefan,

There are many different ways to do this with special macros and techniques 
to extract text available.

But their is a core search operator (used in filters), 
http://tiddlywiki.com/#search%20Operator and examples

Tony

On Friday, October 27, 2017 at 10:57:26 PM UTC+11, Stefan Spycher wrote:
>
> I'm interested in the same. @Aaron, can you post your solution?
>
> Thanks
>
> Stefan
>
> Am Montag, 5. Juni 2017 22:14:15 UTC+2 schrieb Aaron Haslem:
>>
>>
>>
>> Took me a few tries to figure out the structure, but that works great.  
>> Exactly what I was looking for.  Thanks Mat.
>>
>

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[tw] Re: ordering custom sidebar tabs

Captian,

Extending Tons Ide place this in any tiddler 

Name any tiddler that has a listfiled and you can drag and drop the order.

<>


Regards
Tony

On Saturday, October 28, 2017 at 1:50:49 AM UTC+11, Captain Packers wrote:
>
> I'm wondering if there is a way to order custom sidebar tabs relative to 
> one another. I know how to use the list-before and list-after options, but 
> it seems these must be relative to a  $:/core/ui/SideBar/"TabName" to work 
> properly. Is there a way to order two custom tabs relative to one another? 
> For example, I tried editing "TabA" and using list-after 
> $:/tags/SideBar/TabB, but to no avail. I want them all to be before "Open", 
> but I want to control the order.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Formatting or styling needed to display text in a box [solved]

2017-10-27 Thread AndrewMc

Thank you Birthe. That is very helpful.

On Saturday, October 28, 2017 at 1:43:10 PM UTC+13, Birthe C wrote:
>
> Hi Andrew,
>
> This is the way I used :
>
> @@display:block;width:50%;border:1px solid black;padding:5px;The text you 
> want to emphasise. Chance the style as you want, and perhaps use the 
> button in the editor toolbar to create a snippet to use over and over 
> again.@@
>
>
> Hope you enjoy Tiddlywiki - it is very addictive.
> Birthe
>
>
>
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Formatting or styling needed to display text in a box

AndrewMC,

Just using the backticks can be a quick poor mans tool for this
See this Quick Tip I wrote 
http://tiddlywiki.psat.com.au/#Quick%20Tip%20-%20A%20Surprise%20use%20of%20backticks

```
A Heading box
```

@@display:block;width:50%;border:1px solid black;padding:5px;The text you 
want to emphasise. Chance the style as you want, and perhaps use the button 
in the editor toolbar to create a snippet to use over and over again.@@

Or generalise Birthe's solution like this in a tiddler  tagged 
$:/tags/Stylesheet

```
.textboarder {block;width:50%;border:1px solid black;padding:5px;}

```

Then Tridder the CSS in the Tiddler with most first character markdow, in 
the below cases Semi-colon and Colon followed by ".textboarder" note 
leading period.

See Image

;Then Tridder the CSS in the Tiddler with most first character markdow, in 
the below cases Semi-colon and Colon followed by ".textboarder" note 
leading period.

;.textboarder The text you want to emphasise. Chance the style as you want, 
and perhaps use the button in the editor toolbar to create a snippet to use 
over and over again

!!Or

:.textboarder The text you want to emphasise. Chance the style as you want, 
and perhaps use the button in the editor toolbar to create a snippet to use 
over and over again

On Saturday, October 28, 2017 at 8:43:32 AM UTC+11, AndrewMc wrote:
>
> Hi All
>
> I am wanting to emphasise certain lines of text by surrounding them with a 
> box.
> Can anyone describe how this could be done, or point me to information 
> that might help?
>
> I am quite new to TW5 and am wondering whether if there is a widget for 
> this kind of thing, or if I can or should try to create and then apply 
> custom style.
>
> Cheers
> Andrew Mc
>

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[tw] Re: Sharing/Keeping Tiddlers in sync for different users

Diego,

I am building a process to do something like this, using the bundler plugin 
however you can export a set of tiddlers found in the Advanced search as a 
json file. If you do not step on top of each other you could export a set 
of tiddlers you own to a JSON the other can import. The Rule would be at 
the start of work load the other persons json, at the end of work export 
your own json the other will import.

Regards
Tony

On Saturday, October 28, 2017 at 12:17:56 PM UTC+11, Diego Mesa wrote:
>
> Hey all,
>
> I have a "math" section of my tiddlywiki, as does my friend. This has led 
> us to wonder how we can work together on editing this "branch" of our 
> wikis. 
>
>1. Can you see the "version history" of changes on a tiddler?
>2. Is there some existing method to share all tiddlers belonging to 
>tag?
>3. Is there some way to not just share, but keep them "in sync" 
>between multiple places? I suppose this would be difficult, as we both use 
>one-file installations of tiddlywiki.
>
> If none of the above exist, is there some other way the community suggests?
>
> Thanks!
> Diego
>

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Re: [tw] Re: Testers needed for TiddlyServer

2017-10-27 Thread coda coder



On Friday, October 27, 2017 at 8:37:44 PM UTC-5, Arlen Beiler wrote:
>
> The time window would work something like this. 
>
> Let's say you have the wiki open in one tab and you do some editing and 
> the changes get saved. Can you open it in another tab or window or on 
> another computer, and make some changes there. Then you come back to the 
> first computer or tab and without thinking you make some changes and they 
> automatically get saved. If neither the backup feature nor Etag is enabled, 
> your changes are irretrievable lost, unless your backup system already 
> grabbed them as soon as they were written.
>

That's identical behavior to current single-file TWs. Anyone using 
single-file TWs knows (or should know) how that works.  Arlen, seriously, I 
admire you trying to solve it, but the etag system is, at times, failing 
you. Because the etag system is failing you, *your* system, TS, is 
suffering as a result.


> The backup feature of TiddlyServer lets you retrieve that old version, and 
> the e-tag prevents it from being overwritten in the first place. 
>
> Now if I would put a time window in place of, say, 10 seconds, it would be 
> able to save only if the file on disk is nor more than 10 seconds newer 
> than the version loaded in the browser. If it was modified more than 10 
> seconds later than the version in the browser it would not be able to save. 
> This would be a setting in settings.json so the user could adjust it 
> according to the need. 
>

Nifty idea.  But again, it's not needed, IMO.  You're trying to fix an etag 
issue, not a TS issue, per se.
 

>
> Interesting thought, I will consider it. 
>
>
Are you referring to my *bloody-minded* "A PUT request is an undeniable 
request..." statement?  Having thought about it more, I'd go even further 
-- refusing to let me save, implies the server knows better than I do what 
needs to be (and should be allowed to be) saved.  That's a showstopper, for 
me. :/

Anyway, I admire your diligence on this but hope you give me switch like...

{
  ...
  "ts-options" : {
"enable-etag": false // default true
  }
}

 :)


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[tw] Re: [Plugin] Dropboard 1.0.0 — Kanban like organization in the style of Trello using boards, lists, and cards.