Re: [tw] Re: Filter and list text components:

2018-01-09 Thread Thomas Elmiger
Hello Tob

My wikitext macro collects and spits out matching text passages as they
occur in the tiddler.

So the only way to sort would be to change the order im the source tiddler.

The TW concept that allows finding and sorting at the same time would be
filters. So maybe a regex filter could help in your case. Bot this is not
my territory.

In the long run the most flexible path to do new things with your data
would be to reorganize as suggested by Tony – although it looks like too
much work at the moment it might be worth exploring. Jan managed to create
temporary tiddlers with content found via my extract macro for his
presentation tool. Maybe you could adopt something like that to create new
permanent tiddlers with your data in an automated way.

Good luck!
Thomas

tobaisch  schrieb am Mi. 10. Jan. 2018 um 02:53:

> Hello Thomas again,
> is there a way to display a sorted list?
> Regards
> Tob
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Filter to list fields with a Prefix

2018-01-09 Thread TonyM
Answered myself,

filter="[is[current]fields[]]+[prefix[item-]]"

Regards
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[tw] [TW5] Filter to list fields with a Prefix

2018-01-09 Thread TonyM
Hi Folks,

I have a tiddler with a number of fields with the prefix item-

How can I write a filter to list each field with that prefix ?

Thanks in advance
Tony

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Menus a missing TW feature?

2018-01-09 Thread TonyM
BurningTree

Looks like some techniques we can use, How do you see this as supporting a 
menus concept?

Regards
Tony


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[tw] Re: Removing empty space between numbers with macro

2018-01-09 Thread tobaisch
thanks again Eric for your help.
It works great!
Regards Tob

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[tw] Re: Removing empty space between numbers with macro

2018-01-09 Thread Eric Shulman
On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 8:25:59 PM UTC-8, Evan Balster wrote:
>
> I made a "condition" plugin for situations like that.  TiddlyWiki's 
> built-in reveal widget has a similar purpose but only considers the "text" 
> field of a target tiddler.
>

Actually, the core <$reveal> widget DOES let you compare arbitrary 
TextReference values.  Instead of using the "state" and "text" params, 
using "text" and "default" params instead.  The "default" param is used 
whenever the "state" param is blank **or missing**.  Thus:

<$reveal default={{!!webid}} type="match" text="">
   There is no webID


Both "default" and "text" params can be used with ANY TextReference, 
including literals ("foo"), variables( <> ), and field references ( 
{{!!foo}} ).

enjoy,
-e
Eric Shulman
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[tw] Re: Removing empty space between numbers with macro

2018-01-09 Thread tobaisch
I get an: 
 undefined widget 'if'

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[tw] Re: Removing empty space between numbers with macro

2018-01-09 Thread Evan Balster
Hey, Tob —

I made a "condition" plugin for situations like that.  TiddlyWiki's 
built-in reveal widget has a similar purpose but only considers the "text" 
field of a target tiddler.

<$if value={{!!webid}}><$macrocall ...>

Plugin here:  https://evanbalster.com/tiddlywiki/condition.json

On Tuesday, 9 January 2018 20:04:26 UTC-6, tobaisch wrote:
>
> Hello Evan again,
> Is there a way to make the macro output invisible if the field which is 
> filling the macro is empty.
> The macro is indeed in every Tiddler and if I have no ID-Nr only the link 
> text is visible and the link leads to nowhere. 
> Since it would be better the macro or the link text would be invisible.
> I can not delete it individually as it is part of a larger transclusion.
> Thank you for your help
> Regards
> Tob
>
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[tw] Re: [TW5] Menus a missing TW feature?

2018-01-09 Thread BurningTreeC
I made this Triddler concept once,

this is just a prototype and not fully working

http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com/#Triddler%20concept

Am Mittwoch, 10. Januar 2018 01:41:48 UTC+1 schrieb TonyM:
>
> Folks,
>
> Just brainstorming some work I want to do with Tiddlywiki, I like building 
> generic solutions we can share, which support a rapid development 
> environment in tiddlywiki.
>
> It seems to me that one missing feature in TiddlyWiki is menus, whilst we 
> can make them with code and tweeking and "lists and tabs" resemble Menus, 
> there is no generic menus in tiddlywiki except in the responsive solutions 
> I have seen.
> Menus are perhaps more important when building solutions for flyby users 
> who consume the tiddlywiki rather than learn what tiddlywiki is, but they 
> can also be space saving shortcuts for advanced users.
>
> If you can let me know about any prior-art (existing designs and 
> solutions) or discussions I would appreciate it. 
>
> Also please voice your interest and requirements. Please keep focused on 
> menus in this thread.
>
> Tony
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

2018-01-09 Thread BurningTreeC
Hello Wei-Ting,

I use popmotion only for zooming right now, it was just easier to do with 
popmotion.
There are many other things that could be done with it

If you find a better way to do things, don't hesitate to contribute :)

Simon


Am Mittwoch, 10. Januar 2018 01:31:49 UTC+1 schrieb Wei-Ting Lin:
>
> Hi Simon,
>
> I found you use hammer.js and popmotion.js. Both of them look like 
> libraries handling dragging. What is the difference?
>
> Best,
> Wei-Ting
>
> BurningTreeC於 2018年1月9日星期二 UTC-6下午2時21分02秒寫道:
>>
>> @Wei-Ting Lin,
>>
>> again to your idea for configurable "free dragging"
>>
>> I think we have to ways to go there, because of the popmotion library 
>> that I also use
>> one could make it configurable so that muuri dragging doesn't get used 
>> and free dragging like here: https://popmotion.io/learn/input-tracking/ 
>> would be used instead.
>>
>> thanks for the idea, it's a cool option
>>
>

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[tw] Re: Filter and list text components:

2018-01-09 Thread TonyM
Thanks Birthe !

Tony

On Wednesday, 10 January 2018 13:58:06 UTC+11, Birthe C wrote:
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> Hi Tony,
>
> Is it this link http://openall.tiddlyspot.com/ your are looking for?
>
> Birthe
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[tw] Re: Filter and list text components:

2018-01-09 Thread Birthe C
Hi Tony,

Is it this link http://openall.tiddlyspot.com/ your are looking for?

Birthe

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[tw] Re: Filter and list text components:

2018-01-09 Thread TonyM
Tobaisch,

I empathise with you position as a newbie, However regardless it is of 
great value using a tiddler as your basic unit of information as 
illustrated in my comments. Your current method is placing multiple 
"objects or things" in a single tiddler so now you need to build solutions 
to look inside tiddlers. Creating a tiddler for each book and tagging it as 
a book basically says this tiddler is a book, you can do the same for 
authors. There will be no "redundant" (meaning repeating or duplicate 
information inside a tiddler) you have to maintain. These books and authors 
can then be related using each others names as tags. I am sure you will 
come to learn how to use tags more effectively soon, one tip is the Open 
all button that allows you to open Open all items tagged from the tag pill, 
just click on a tag appearing in a tiddler (eg Author), Unfortunately the 
only link to the plugin source I have is here 

 I 
will see if I can find better.

The "Tagging Tool by TobiBeer." may very well become desirable when you 
start to take this other route.

When you make tiddlers you search on their name with the standard search 
box, as you can if you make tags into tiddlers. Lets say you have an author 
tiddler (also a tag) in that tiddler you can permanently code a list filter 
to show all authors. 

Whilst reserving some humility I would like to respectfully suggest to 
consider going down this path because my experience in tiddlywiki and 
outside tiddlywiki demonstrates your current method is inferior, the one I 
suggest is not only superior but opens far more possibilities and will 
ultimately be easier for you. If you remain on your current path you will 
find it more difficult, and I expect I will be making this point again, as 
will others.

The trick is learning from others who have travelled this way, you will 
complete the journey much faster if you do.

Best Wishes
Tony

On Wednesday, 10 January 2018 12:37:27 UTC+11, tobaisch wrote:
>
> Hello TonyM,
> I have now looked at the Tagging Tool by TobiBeer.
> I do not really understand the benefit for me. All this I can do with the 
> list widget too. And I do not need hierarchies at the moment either. Maybe 
> I do not really understand it either. The practical examples are missing 
> on the page. [Foo Bar] I consider is an inappropriate example to explain 
> something to someone. :)
> No matter.
> In general, with the help of the full-text search also tags are not really 
> always needed (I refer to my case).
> I type three search words faster than I put three tags in a filter list. I 
> use very few tags and get along very well. Tags are not as flexible in my 
> opinion.
>
> To my request briefly again:
> I was not looking for entire Tiddler but for individual sections of text. I 
> wanted to extract those and compare them to their spelling and mistakes. And 
> under favorable conditions also list as list.
> The macro looks a bit bumpy but it works and helps enormously. I hope it 
> works for 3000 Tiddlers later too. Maybe I have too little computing 
> power with my old device. :)
>
> For your help.
> I really appreciate your help. You have really given me very good tips 
> and taught me a better one. Please continue! That's good and thanks for 
> that. 
> In general you are very active here and I do not doubt your competence. I 
> just need a little bit longer to understand something. 
> We are not only spatially very separated but also in our knowledge about 
> macros and TW5. There is also a lot of water in between :)
> All the better that we can exchange ourselves with the help of the WWW 
> here on this way. Somehow crazy. Thank you.
> Regards
> Tob
>

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[tw] Re: Removing empty space between numbers with macro

2018-01-09 Thread tobaisch
Hello Evan again,
Is there a way to make the macro output invisible if the field which is 
filling the macro is empty.
The macro is indeed in every Tiddler and if I have no ID-Nr only the link 
text is visible and the link leads to nowhere. 
Since it would be better the macro or the link text would be invisible.
I can not delete it individually as it is part of a larger transclusion.
Thank you for your help
Regards
Tob

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[tw] Re: Filter and list text components:

2018-01-09 Thread tobaisch
Hello Thomas again,
is there a way to display a sorted list?
Regards
Tob

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[tw] Re: Filter and list text components:

2018-01-09 Thread tobaisch
Hello TonyM,
I have now looked at the Tagging Tool by TobiBeer.
I do not really understand the benefit for me. All this I can do with the 
list widget too. And I do not need hierarchies at the moment either. Maybe 
I do not really understand it either. The practical examples are missing on 
the page. [Foo Bar] I consider is an inappropriate example to explain 
something to someone. :)
No matter.
In general, with the help of the full-text search also tags are not really 
always needed (I refer to my case).
I type three search words faster than I put three tags in a filter list. I 
use very few tags and get along very well. Tags are not as flexible in my 
opinion.

To my request briefly again:
I was not looking for entire Tiddler but for individual sections of text. I 
wanted to extract those and compare them to their spelling and mistakes. And 
under favorable conditions also list as list.
The macro looks a bit bumpy but it works and helps enormously. I hope it 
works for 3000 Tiddlers later too. Maybe I have too little computing power 
with my old device. :)

For your help.
I really appreciate your help. You have really given me very good tips and 
taught me a better one. Please continue! That's good and thanks for that. 
In general you are very active here and I do not doubt your competence. I 
just need a little bit longer to understand something. 
We are not only spatially very separated but also in our knowledge about 
macros and TW5. There is also a lot of water in between :)
All the better that we can exchange ourselves with the help of the WWW here 
on this way. Somehow crazy. Thank you.
Regards
Tob

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Menus a missing TW feature?

2018-01-09 Thread TonyM
Diego,

Thanks for your support.

How would you like to represent menu information?

I am still in brainstorming mode, what ideas or needs do you see?

Tony


On Wednesday, 10 January 2018 11:55:39 UTC+11, Diego Mesa wrote:
>
> Tony,
>
> I think this is a *great* idea! I will help in anyway I can!
>
> Diego
>
> On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 6:41:48 PM UTC-6, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Folks,
>>
>> Just brainstorming some work I want to do with Tiddlywiki, I like 
>> building generic solutions we can share, which support a rapid development 
>> environment in tiddlywiki.
>>
>> It seems to me that one missing feature in TiddlyWiki is menus, whilst we 
>> can make them with code and tweeking and "lists and tabs" resemble Menus, 
>> there is no generic menus in tiddlywiki except in the responsive solutions 
>> I have seen.
>> Menus are perhaps more important when building solutions for flyby users 
>> who consume the tiddlywiki rather than learn what tiddlywiki is, but they 
>> can also be space saving shortcuts for advanced users.
>>
>> If you can let me know about any prior-art (existing designs and 
>> solutions) or discussions I would appreciate it. 
>>
>> Also please voice your interest and requirements. Please keep focused on 
>> menus in this thread.
>>
>> Tony
>>
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

2018-01-09 Thread TonyM
BurningTreeC,

Just did a drive by review of the development state, an observation.

This is only blueSky thinking, keep it for later, no need to act on these 
ideas.

I saw a "phone_android" overlay on the demo site, and it made me think of 
something.

It would be a great feature if we could open a Murri view and see all 
displayed tiddlers, but on touching, click and move etc.. indicate it has 
being touched/moved. 

An example may be a subtle green boarder that turns red on click and back 
to green on another click. This would allow us to quickly identify tiddlers 
we have displayed, visited in this session.
This would help using the board to prompt reviews, display slides in a 
presentation and much more. Its about the meta handling of items on the 
"board".

I then considered the possibility of adding a third dimension to the board 
like graphics packages that let you specify on which layer an object is 
placed. Imagine a translucent background layer under which you could push a 
tile, in effect indicating you are done with it, whilst maintaining it in 
the tiled view. Made more generically perhaps we could set the Z value on 
each tiddler and be able to add translucent images to other layers.

Love your work
Tony  

On Thursday, 21 December 2017 17:04:51 UTC+11, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> Hello there,
>
> currently I'm working on a plugin that creates a drag 
> storyview
>
> it's based on the muuri widget by 
> https://ustuehler.github.io/tw5-material/ which is based on 
> https://github.com/haltu/muuri
>
> it also uses https://github.com/hammerjs/hammer.js and 
> https://github.com/Popmotion/popmotion for touch-actions/drag-actions and 
> pinch-to-zoom
>
>
>
> the code repository is on github: 
> https://github.com/BurningTreeC/TW5-muuri-touch
>
>
> It's a *work in progress! * 
>
> *And ... I'm very open to contributions, so don't hesitate to change, add, 
> comment!*
>
> A PREVIEW of the actual state is found on http://muritest.tiddlyspot.com
>
>
> what's missing?
>
>
>- a stylesheet for mobile view wip
>- buttons to set tiddler-widths by klicking (currently only by 
>pinch-zoom) - the button would only have to apply a class ( span-2 | 
> span-3 
>| span-4 | span-6 | span-9 | span-12 ) to the tiddler-frame not 
>needed, use tw css
>- a packed plugin
>- a button to keep tiddlers on its position ... necessary?
>   - a different approach would be a second container on the 
>   left/right that can hold tiddlers from the story river - simply by 
> moving 
>   them from the river to the container - see here:
>   - https://codepen.io/niklasramo/pen/wJKMQz
>   
>
>
>
>- editing a tiddler should take place on tiddlers position (move 
>tiddler-draft to tiddler-grid-index inside muuri-widget / muuri-storyview) 
>  
>fixed
>- fix "setData" error when dragging inside editor  fixed
>   - error only occurs with codemirror editor
>   - default editor prevents dragging etc inside textareas
>   - question: how is that done?
>- ... more to come
>
>
> cheers, BurningTreeC
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[tw] Re: [TW5] Menus a missing TW feature?

2018-01-09 Thread Diego Mesa
Tony,

I think this is a *great* idea! I will help in anyway I can!

Diego

On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 6:41:48 PM UTC-6, TonyM wrote:
>
> Folks,
>
> Just brainstorming some work I want to do with Tiddlywiki, I like building 
> generic solutions we can share, which support a rapid development 
> environment in tiddlywiki.
>
> It seems to me that one missing feature in TiddlyWiki is menus, whilst we 
> can make them with code and tweeking and "lists and tabs" resemble Menus, 
> there is no generic menus in tiddlywiki except in the responsive solutions 
> I have seen.
> Menus are perhaps more important when building solutions for flyby users 
> who consume the tiddlywiki rather than learn what tiddlywiki is, but they 
> can also be space saving shortcuts for advanced users.
>
> If you can let me know about any prior-art (existing designs and 
> solutions) or discussions I would appreciate it. 
>
> Also please voice your interest and requirements. Please keep focused on 
> menus in this thread.
>
> Tony
>

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[tw] [TW5] Menus a missing TW feature?

2018-01-09 Thread TonyM
Folks,

Just brainstorming some work I want to do with Tiddlywiki, I like building 
generic solutions we can share, which support a rapid development 
environment in tiddlywiki.

It seems to me that one missing feature in TiddlyWiki is menus, whilst we 
can make them with code and tweeking and "lists and tabs" resemble Menus, 
there is no generic menus in tiddlywiki except in the responsive solutions 
I have seen.
Menus are perhaps more important when building solutions for flyby users 
who consume the tiddlywiki rather than learn what tiddlywiki is, but they 
can also be space saving shortcuts for advanced users.

If you can let me know about any prior-art (existing designs and solutions) 
or discussions I would appreciate it. 

Also please voice your interest and requirements. Please keep focused on 
menus in this thread.

Tony

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

2018-01-09 Thread Wei-Ting Lin
Hi Simon,

I found you use hammer.js and popmotion.js. Both of them look like 
libraries handling dragging. What is the difference?

Best,
Wei-Ting

BurningTreeC於 2018年1月9日星期二 UTC-6下午2時21分02秒寫道:
>
> @Wei-Ting Lin,
>
> again to your idea for configurable "free dragging"
>
> I think we have to ways to go there, because of the popmotion library that 
> I also use
> one could make it configurable so that muuri dragging doesn't get used and 
> free dragging like here: https://popmotion.io/learn/input-tracking/ would 
> be used instead.
>
> thanks for the idea, it's a cool option
>

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[tw] Re: How to build recurring tasks in existing tiddlers?

2018-01-09 Thread TonyM
Folks,

Since this discussion thread is about "
How to build recurring tasks in existing tiddlers?
I just want to post something I discovered recently and it may provide help 
dealing with reoccurring items in the future, consider it an algorithm 
only, you will need to build the solution.

Create a field in your tiddlers (as needed) to store a date, provide a 
method to set that field to now, effectively a time-stamp. In this example 
lets call it monthly-review

Separately create one or more view/report tiddlers that lists tiddlers with 
a time stamp that is older than today less the required review period (in 
this case one month ago, or last month)  This will list all tiddlers who 
have not being revisited in the required period, open them to action them 
and update the time stamp, they will then be removed from the list as their 
last time-stamp period from now is less than the review period.

Some advantages
This has a positive advantage that the view/report tiddlers are where all 
the action takes place and you can quickly alter your query and time frames 
without touching the tiddlers themself. 
The existence of a particular field in a tiddler indicates you want it in 
that review period, an empty value is a new item, you must action
The field with a time stamp indicates when it was last done, so if it was 
not done this period, it will persist next period, never lost if you 
skipped a period
You can future date a tiddlers time stamp so it appears in a future review 
period rather than the next one. This is a quality of the tiddler, not the 
view report mechanism

If this approach sounds interesting please provide some feedback. I am 
building a solution that I will publish for "tiddler disposition handling" 
for which reoccurring items is but one feature.

Unfortunately with International and national travel on my calendar this 
may not be until late April.

Can anyone think of a better name that "tiddler disposition handling", this 
remains the best I have identified, however I doubt many will get the idea, 
or notice it from this title.

Regards
Tony


On Monday, 8 January 2018 09:17:27 UTC+11, Surya wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I want to build tasks in existing tiddlers.
> Most of them should be recurring- e.g. 1x / year, every 3 months, or 
> similar.
> They should be with a checkbox. When I check the checkbox, the task should 
> be deleted. Or, if it is a recurring one, it should automatically be set to 
> the next date (e.g. next year, in 3 months). Some of them from the date I 
> checked it, others from the date I should have done the task.
>
> I want to be notified, when a task should be done and is not checked. In 
> the notification only the task should be visible, not the whole tiddler. 
> But I want to have a link to the corresponding tiddler.
> If there are several tasks for one day should be done, they should be 
> shown in the notification as a list.
>
> Is that possible?
> And how to do??
>
> I saw a plugin for building tasks. But it has a lot of features (which I 
> don't need), but no possibility for recurring tasks.
>
> Again: Thanks for your help!!
> Regards, Surya
>

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[tw] Re: Win 7 64 bit - Tiddlydesktop throws internal javascript error

2018-01-09 Thread TonyM
Brian,

Further info for the community to know.


   - If you turn off Autosave does the fault only occur on save?
   - Are you using TW5 or TWClassic
   - Is this the first attempt to use TiddlyDesktop with this wiki and it 
   has never worked, or it just started after working previously

If you are using TWC on TiddlyDesktop for the first there is value looking 
through your plugins for save related plugins and disable them, for example 
less backups plugin.

Regards
Tony



On Wednesday, 10 January 2018 00:47:56 UTC+11, Brian Kennedy wrote:
>
> I have a problem using Tiddlydesktop on Win7
> When I edit a tiddler I (almost) always get an  internal javascript error 
> when I close it or attempt to save it.
> However it works fine on Firefox.
>
> It may be relevant to note that I am using it to track tasks as in this 
> tutorial by Francis  Meetze
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMGpAW0z_Bo=PLzZCajspPU_UjFn0uy-J9URz0LP4zhxRK
> As the files are 2MB I have not attached them but will if anyone asks.
>
> My setup is this:
>
> Win 7 64 bit Enterprise ver 6.1
> IE is default browser (11.0.96)
> TiddlyDesktop version 0.0.9
>
> Editing files work fine on Firefox 57.0.4 64bit (no TiddlyFox)
>
> Thanks,
> Brian
>

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[tw] Re: How to build recurring tasks in existing tiddlers?

2018-01-09 Thread 'Surya' via TiddlyWiki
Hi Thomas,

Thank you, that you're open for opinions :-)


Hint: After creating a task tiddler there is no need to open it like in 
> your picture – you ca see and edit directly in the list view (use the lock 
> buttons to toggle edit mode).

Ah, okay :-)


I made a picture of the list view with my opinions / wishes. But this is 
only MY opinion- maybe others have other opinions...
 


   - 1: Good for information for the beginning, but no need for it when 
   working with the list- so wasted space
   - 2: Wasted space
   - 3: Needed information for the beginning and the plugin itself, but 
   wasted space when working with the list
   - 4: Needed information for the beginning and the plugin itself, but 
   wasted space when working with the list
   - 5: Wasted space
   - 6: Wasted space
   - 7: Good for information for the beginning, but no need for it when 
   working longer with the list- so wasted space
   - 8: Wasted space
   - 9: Good for information for the beginning, but no need for it when 
   working longer with the list- so wasted space
   - 10: Wasted space
   - 11: Wasted space
   - 12: Wasted space
   - 13: Wasted space
   - 14: Good for information for the beginning, but no need for it when 
   working longer with the list- so wasted space
   - 15: Wasted space
   - 16: Wasted space
   - 17: Wasted space
   - 18: Wasted space
   - 19: Wasted space
   - 20: Wasted space

Maybe it doesn't waste so much space, if there would be lines between items 
which should be separated visually. Instead of a big white space.
This list is so big, that I have to scroll it- although I have only 4 
tasks. How big will it be, if I have 30 tasks in one section...

I hope you take it just as a helpful hint, not as a bad criticism.
Regards, Surya

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[tw] Re: Formula: Spreadsheet-like mathematics for TiddlyWiki

2018-01-09 Thread Michael Wiktowy
Thank you, Evan! This was a perfect and intuitive fit for my invoicing 
system.

/Mike

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[tw] substring right() function to operate on a field

2018-01-09 Thread François Godard
Hi,

So here is my need 
I have a date field (lets call it: "myDate") that is not formated: values 
can be "12-02-2015" , "Dec 2016", "Q3 2017" or "2018"
I want to extract the year for display and sorting purposes.

so I usually write right(myDate,4)

now this does not seem to be core. So look on this group i found this post 

 about 
substring using a javascript macro

This is close enough , for the substring part. If I want to operate on the 
title of the tiddler , I can modify the code as per below (tested it works 
well

[...]

exports.name = "substr";
exports.params = [
  {name: "size",default:"0"},
]; 
/*
Run the macro
*/
exports.run = function(size) {

var tiddlertitle= this.getVariable("currentTiddler");


 return tiddlertitle.substring(tiddlertitle.length-size);

[...]



And this works well on the title , but I would like to reach the myDate 
field

Am I going in the right direction ? What would be the syntax ? I could not 
find tips on this
Thanks for your kind help here
Francois

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

2018-01-09 Thread Wei-Ting Lin
Hello Simon,

Thank you for replying me. That's interesting. I will study these to see 
how they work. And probably we can implement some of them.

Wei-Ting

BurningTreeC於 2018年1月9日星期二 UTC-6下午2時21分02秒寫道:
>
> @Wei-Ting Lin,
>
> again to your idea for configurable "free dragging"
>
> I think we have to ways to go there, because of the popmotion library that 
> I also use
> one could make it configurable so that muuri dragging doesn't get used and 
> free dragging like here: https://popmotion.io/learn/input-tracking/ would 
> be used instead.
>
> thanks for the idea, it's a cool option
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

2018-01-09 Thread BurningTreeC
@Wei-Ting Lin,

again to your idea for configurable "free dragging"

I think we have to ways to go there, because of the popmotion library that 
I also use
one could make it configurable so that muuri dragging doesn't get used and 
free dragging like here: https://popmotion.io/learn/input-tracking/ would 
be used instead.

thanks for the idea, it's a cool option

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

2018-01-09 Thread BurningTreeC


Am Dienstag, 9. Januar 2018 19:03:12 UTC+1 schrieb BurningTreeC:
>
> Hello, Wei-Ting Lin,
>
> Am Dienstag, 9. Januar 2018 18:15:20 UTC+1 schrieb Wei-Ting Lin:
>>
>> Hi there, 
>>
>> This is a fantastic plugin. I always think that tiddlywiki should have a 
>> story view like this. Now I think it can replace Google Keep and actually 
>> much better.
>>
>> I have some ideas:
>>
>> 1. Resizing or zooming by mouse:
>> There are still laptops without touch screens, like mine. And I guess 
>> most desktop displays do not have touch screens, either.
>>
>
> I've thought about that before, I want to implement that but there are 
> other things that come first.
> Right now you can add a field called "span" to tiddlers containing a value 
> from 2 - 12. that applies different widths to them 
>
>>
>> 2. Manual mode:
>> The automatic grid layout is remarkable, but sometimes we would still 
>> like to arrange notes by ourselves, in order to get a suitable view of the 
>> workplace.
>> I would say this is a big advantage of Microsoft OneNote: You can put 
>> anything anywhere on the workplace.
>>
>
> Yes, that'd be a nice thing to have. It's not that intuitive to implement 
> with the underlying muuri engine. muuri in fact is about sorting in grid 
> layouts. but with a little different approach this could be done.
> I think about having an invisible grid with smaller invisible tiles where 
> you can move your tiddlers freely.
> Try the "populate this wiki with images" button on the demo page.  they 
> hold tiddlers in place if you move them between them.If those small 
> elements were invisible...
>
>>
>> If this can be made, then we can not just turn on/off necessary notes, 
>> but also put them wherever we want! I would say this can beat OneNote.
>>
>> These just my random thoughts. Anyway, thanks for your great work!
>>
>
> the idea to be able to beat onenote is a good motivation ;)
>
> best wishes,
> Simon
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

2018-01-09 Thread BurningTreeC
Hello, Wei-Ting Lin,

Am Dienstag, 9. Januar 2018 18:15:20 UTC+1 schrieb Wei-Ting Lin:
>
> Hi there, 
>
> This is a fantastic plugin. I always think that tiddlywiki should have a 
> story view like this. Now I think it can replace Google Keep and actually 
> much better.
>
> I have some ideas:
>
> 1. Resizing or zooming by mouse:
> There are still laptops without touch screens, like mine. And I guess most 
> desktop displays do not have touch screens, either.
>

I've thought about that before, I want to implement that but there are 
other things that come first.
Right now you can add a field called "span" to tiddlers containing a value 
from 2 - 12. that applies different widths to them 

>
> 2. Manual mode:
> The automatic grid layout is remarkable, but sometimes we would still like 
> to arrange notes by ourselves, in order to get a suitable view of the 
> workplace.
> I would say this is a big advantage of Microsoft OneNote: You can put 
> anything anywhere on the workplace.
>

Yes, that'd be a nice thing to have. It's not that intuitive to implement 
with the underlying muuri engine. muuri in fact is about sorting in grid 
layouts. but with a little different approach this could be done.
I think about having an invisible grid with smaller invisible tiles where 
you can move your tiddlers freely.
Try the "populate this wiki with images" button on the demo page. If those 
small elements were invisible they would hold tiddlers in place where you 
put them 

>
> If this can be made, then we can not just turn on/off necessary notes, but 
> also put them wherever we want! I would say this can beat OneNote.
>
> These just my random thoughts. Anyway, thanks for your great work!
>

the idea to be able to beat onenote is a good motivation ;)

best wishes,
Simon

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Re: [tw] Re: Need help from "muuritest" (Simon) - idea for image gallery

2018-01-09 Thread BurningTreeC
Hello David, I like it a lot, good work!

I've made the necessary changes so that you can remove tiddler titles 
without problems,

coming with v0.0.14, the next days

all the best,
Simon

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[tw] Re: [TW5 Server] Setting the author using the tiddlywiki.info file

2018-01-09 Thread cpjobling
It doesn't work on the server though! When I reload the tiddlywiki or 
restart the server the value is reset to blank in the control panel!

The $:/status/UserName tiddler is reset to the empty string each time.

I could use the UserName option on the tiddlywiki --server command, but 
because the arguments are positional, I'd forget to include something I 
need!

Chris

On Monday, 8 January 2018 13:57:42 UTC, PMario wrote:
>
> On Monday, January 8, 2018 at 2:31:27 PM UTC+1, cpjobling wrote:
>>
>> So, can I include *username* in the config section?
>>
>
> I don't know. ... But you can create a tiddler in the /tiddlers diectory 
> filename eg: Status_UserName.tid
> with the content: 
>
> title: $:/status/UserName
>
> your user name
>
> So your username will be set everytime you bild your TW. That should work. 
>
> -m
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] "Muuri-Touch" plugin

2018-01-09 Thread Wei-Ting Lin
Hi there, 

This is a fantastic plugin. I always think that tiddlywiki should have a 
story view like this. Now I think it can replace Google Keep and actually 
much better.

I have some ideas:

1. Resizing or zooming by mouse:
There are still laptops without touch screens, like mine. And I guess most 
desktop displays do not have touch screens, either.

2. Manual mode:
The automatic grid layout is remarkable, but sometimes we would still like 
to arrange notes by ourselves, in order to get a suitable view of the 
workplace.
I would say this is a big advantage of Microsoft OneNote: You can put 
anything anywhere on the workplace.

If this can be made, then we can not just turn on/off necessary notes, but 
also put them wherever we want! I would say this can beat OneNote.

These just my random thoughts. Anyway, thanks for your great work!

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[tw] Re: [VIDEOs] - How to work with a TiddlyWiki development environment

2018-01-09 Thread cpjobling
Very useful ... just watched the introduction and will add a To Do to watch 
the rest.


Thanks very much for this!

Chris


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[tw] Re: Is there a bug in external image generation when using tiddlywiki render?

2018-01-09 Thread cpjobling
Yes it worked. Thanks again.

I used Classic TiddlyWiki in anger some time ago but I'm new to TW5 and 
just starting to get my head around how it all works!

Chris

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[tw] Re: Is there a bug in external image generation when using tiddlywiki render?

2018-01-09 Thread cpjobling
Thanks Mario and Jeremy for looking into this for me. I'll update my repo 
with the new version of the info file and let you know what happens.

Chris

On Tuesday, 9 January 2018 15:17:21 UTC, PMario wrote:
>
> Hi Chris,
>
> I think I found it. Your tiddlywiki.info should look like this: 
>
> {
> "description": "Empty edition",
> "plugins": [
> "tiddlywiki/tiddlyweb",
> "tiddlywiki/filesystem",
> "tiddlywiki/highlight",
> "tiddlywiki/codemirror"
> ],
> "username": "Chris Jobling",
> "themes": [
> "tiddlywiki/vanilla",
> "tiddlywiki/snowwhite"
> ],
> "languages": [
>   "en-GB"
>   ],
> "build": {
> "index": [
> "--rendertiddler","$:/core/save/all","index.html","text/plain"
> ],
> "favicon": [
>   "--savetiddler","$:/favicon.ico","favicon.ico"
> ],
> "readme": [
> "--rendertiddler","ReadMe","readme.md","text/html",
> "--rendertiddler","License","license.md","text/html"
> ],
> "externalimages": [
> "--savetiddlers","[is[image]]","images",
> 
> "--setfield","[is[image]]","_canonical_uri","$:/core/templates/canonical-uri-external-image","text/plain",
> 
> "--rendertiddler","$:/core/save/all","externalimages.html","text/plain"
> ],
> "static": [
> 
> "--rendertiddler","$:/core/templates/static.template.html","static.html","text/plain",
> 
> "--rendertiddler","$:/core/templates/alltiddlers.template.html","alltiddlers.html","text/plain",
> 
> "--rendertiddlers","[!is[system]]","$:/core/templates/static.tiddler.html","static","text/plain",
> 
> "--rendertiddler","$:/core/templates/static.template.css","static/static.css","text/plain"
> ]
> }
> }
>
> As you can see, I did change the formatting, so it's human readable again 
> AND I did remove the second "--setfield" line, that killed the image 
> files. 
>
> AND
>
> Be aware, that the jpg.meta files have been changed by "--build 
> externalimages" ... So you'll always need to ship index.html, with the 
> "/images" subdirectory. Otherwise your images will not be shown anymore. ..
>
> have fun!
> mario
>
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[tw] Re: Tags defined by tag macro <> not searchable

2018-01-09 Thread magasine
Take a look at this 
... 
https://ibnishak.github.io/Tesseract/pluginsandmacros/hashtag2tag.html#Hashtag2tag

Em terça-feira, 9 de janeiro de 2018 14:07:50 UTC-2, Stefan Spycher 
escreveu:
>
> Hi, 
>
> I'd like to use inline tags to categorize and markup relevant content, and 
> afterwards be able to search for those occurrences. 
> the tag pill macro <> seems to cover the first part, but i 
> fail to craft a filter that finds that tiddler with 'foobar' tag. although 
> simple, [tag[foobar]] is where i'm stuck. 
> so either the <> macro doesn't generate 'first class' tags, or it's a 
> bug, or i'm doing it wrong :)
>
> any help would be appreciated
>
> thanksl
>

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[tw] Tags defined by tag macro <> not searchable

2018-01-09 Thread Stefan Spycher
Hi, 

I'd like to use inline tags to categorize and markup relevant content, and 
afterwards be able to search for those occurrences. 
the tag pill macro <> seems to cover the first part, but i fail 
to craft a filter that finds that tiddler with 'foobar' tag. although 
simple, [tag[foobar]] is where i'm stuck. 
so either the <> macro doesn't generate 'first class' tags, or it's a 
bug, or i'm doing it wrong :)

any help would be appreciated

thanksl

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[tw] Re: Is there a bug in external image generation when using tiddlywiki render?

2018-01-09 Thread PMario
Hi Chris,

I think I found it. Your tiddlywiki.info should look like this: 

{
"description": "Empty edition",
"plugins": [
"tiddlywiki/tiddlyweb",
"tiddlywiki/filesystem",
"tiddlywiki/highlight",
"tiddlywiki/codemirror"
],
"username": "Chris Jobling",
"themes": [
"tiddlywiki/vanilla",
"tiddlywiki/snowwhite"
],
"languages": [
  "en-GB"
  ],
"build": {
"index": [
"--rendertiddler","$:/core/save/all","index.html","text/plain"
],
"favicon": [
  "--savetiddler","$:/favicon.ico","favicon.ico"
],
"readme": [
"--rendertiddler","ReadMe","readme.md","text/html",
"--rendertiddler","License","license.md","text/html"
],
"externalimages": [
"--savetiddlers","[is[image]]","images",

"--setfield","[is[image]]","_canonical_uri","$:/core/templates/canonical-uri-external-image","text/plain",

"--rendertiddler","$:/core/save/all","externalimages.html","text/plain"
],
"static": [

"--rendertiddler","$:/core/templates/static.template.html","static.html","text/plain",

"--rendertiddler","$:/core/templates/alltiddlers.template.html","alltiddlers.html","text/plain",

"--rendertiddlers","[!is[system]]","$:/core/templates/static.tiddler.html","static","text/plain",

"--rendertiddler","$:/core/templates/static.template.css","static/static.css","text/plain"
]
}
}

As you can see, I did change the formatting, so it's human readable again 
AND I did remove the second "--setfield" line, that killed the image files. 

AND

Be aware, that the jpg.meta files have been changed by "--build 
externalimages" ... So you'll always need to ship index.html, with the 
"/images" subdirectory. Otherwise your images will not be shown anymore. ..

have fun!
mario

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Re: [tw] Re: Is there a bug in external image generation when using tiddlywiki render?

2018-01-09 Thread PMario
On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 3:03:58 PM UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> If you use the build command without specifying a build target then it 
> builds all of the build targets that are specified in the tiddlywiki.info
>  file.
>
> In this case, I think that means that the static images and the external 
> images are overwriting one another. Perhaps try this to just build the 
> external images build target:
>
> tiddlywiki wiki --build externalimages
>

For me it seems, that the above command modifies the jpg.meta file with 
_cannonical_uri .. which is OK
But it also overwrites the .jpg file, which imo should not happen. 

-m

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Re: [tw] Re: Is there a bug in external image generation when using tiddlywiki render?

2018-01-09 Thread PMario
On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 3:03:58 PM UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> In this case, I think that means that the static images and the external 
> images are overwriting one another. Perhaps try this to just build the 
> external images build target:
>
> tiddlywiki wiki --build externalimages
>

That doesn't solve the problem. ... This command overwrites / corrupts the 
(by_Mars_2002).jpg image, which imo shouldn't happen. 

If you do

tiddlywiki wiki --build externalimages
tiddlywiki wiki --build index

index.html is broken !

-m

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Re: [tw] Re: Is there a bug in external image generation when using tiddlywiki render?

2018-01-09 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Chris

If you use the build command without specifying a build target then it builds 
all of the build targets that are specified in the tiddlywiki.info 
 file.

In this case, I think that means that the static images and the external images 
are overwriting one another. Perhaps try this to just build the external images 
build target:

tiddlywiki wiki --build externalimages

Best wishes

Jeremy.


> On 9 Jan 2018, at 14:00, PMario  wrote:
> 
> On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 2:59:10 PM UTC+1, PMario wrote:
> 
> This is definitely a bug. ... Please report it at github, with a reference 
> back to this topic. 
> 
> I'm not really sure, what happens atm. ... 
> 
> but the image file are overwritten by tiddlywiki wiki --build externalimags 
> command in a strange way. 
> 
> -m
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[tw] Re: Is there a bug in external image generation when using tiddlywiki render?

2018-01-09 Thread PMario
On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 2:59:10 PM UTC+1, PMario wrote:
>
>
> This is definitely a bug. ... Please report it at github, with a reference 
> back to this topic. 
>
> I'm not really sure, what happens atm. ... 
>

but the image file are overwritten by tiddlywiki wiki --build externalimags 
command in a strange way. 

-m

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[tw] Re: Is there a bug in external image generation when using tiddlywiki render?

2018-01-09 Thread PMario
On Monday, January 8, 2018 at 10:40:44 AM UTC+1, cpjobling wrote:
>
> I'm using the "Empty Edition" of TiddlyWiki 5.1.15 and generating a static 
> version of my wiki for hosting on GitHub pages. The command being used is: 
>
> tiddlywiki wiki --build
>
> All seems well, but the static images that get generated seem to be 
> corrupt and end up as broken images in the static site.
>
> I did a bit of digging and noted that the images in the interactive wiki 
> (I'm using the server version) are base64 encoded embedded binaries. 
>
> The output image files are 6 bytes long and contain only the characters 
> �w^~)�%.
>
> Is this a bug and should I report it to the issue tracker?
>

Hi, 

This is definitely a bug. ... Please report it at github, with a reference 
back to this topic. 

I'm not really sure, what happens atm. ... 

-mario

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[tw] Win 7 64 bit - Tiddlydesktop throws internal javascript error

2018-01-09 Thread Brian Kennedy
I have a problem using Tiddlydesktop on Win7
When I edit a tiddler I (almost) always get an  internal javascript error 
when I close it or attempt to save it.
However it works fine on Firefox.

It may be relevant to note that I am using it to track tasks as in this 
tutorial by Francis  Meetze
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMGpAW0z_Bo=PLzZCajspPU_UjFn0uy-J9URz0LP4zhxRK
As the files are 2MB I have not attached them but will if anyone asks.

My setup is this:

Win 7 64 bit Enterprise ver 6.1
IE is default browser (11.0.96)
TiddlyDesktop version 0.0.9

Editing files work fine on Firefox 57.0.4 64bit (no TiddlyFox)

Thanks,
Brian

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[tw] Re: [VIDEOs] - How to work with a TiddlyWiki development environment

2018-01-09 Thread PMario
On Monday, January 8, 2018 at 3:49:49 PM UTC+1, Diego Mesa wrote:
>
> I just want to *thank you* for taking the time to put these together! I'm 
> glad they even start off with a helpful tutorial on git and github!
>

You are welcome!
-m

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[tw] Re: Workflow for using TW5 Server when Mobile

2018-01-09 Thread cpjobling
Unfortunately, I'm on iOS!

On Tuesday, 9 January 2018 12:27:57 UTC, Stephen Wilson wrote:
>
> on android you can run nodejs tiddlywiki from the Temux app
>
> On Tuesday, 9 January 2018 12:21:57 UTC, cpjobling wrote:
>>
>> Is there a workable workflow that allows you to run TW5 as a server on 
>> your desktop or laptop, pack-up and move to Quine when mobile, then merge 
>> changes with server when you get back to base? 
>>
>> I have my server wiki on Dropbox so the tiddly files are available. 
>>
>> The docs imply that you can archive a server wiki as a single file, but 
>> it’s not so clear if you can go from a single-file wiki back to a server 
>> wiki. 
>>
>> I guess I’m really asking is a server TiddlyWiki 5 useable as a 
>> single-page wiki without too much work? I don’t mind having to do some 
>> pre-processing before going on the road as it can probably be automated. 
>>
>> I know that I could host a server on the public internet, but my current 
>> provider deson’t support Node. 
>
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[tw] Re: Workflow for using TW5 Server when Mobile

2018-01-09 Thread Stephen Wilson
on android you can run nodejs tiddlywiki from the Temux app

On Tuesday, 9 January 2018 12:21:57 UTC, cpjobling wrote:
>
> Is there a workable workflow that allows you to run TW5 as a server on 
> your desktop or laptop, pack-up and move to Quine when mobile, then merge 
> changes with server when you get back to base? 
>
> I have my server wiki on Dropbox so the tiddly files are available. 
>
> The docs imply that you can archive a server wiki as a single file, but 
> it’s not so clear if you can go from a single-file wiki back to a server 
> wiki. 
>
> I guess I’m really asking is a server TiddlyWiki 5 useable as a 
> single-page wiki without too much work? I don’t mind having to do some 
> pre-processing before going on the road as it can probably be automated. 
>
> I know that I could host a server on the public internet, but my current 
> provider deson’t support Node. 

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[tw] Workflow for using TW5 Server when Mobile

2018-01-09 Thread cpjobling
Is there a workable workflow that allows you to run TW5 as a server on your 
desktop or laptop, pack-up and move to Quine when mobile, then merge changes 
with server when you get back to base?

I have my server wiki on Dropbox so the tiddly files are available.

The docs imply that you can archive a server wiki as a single file, but it’s 
not so clear if you can go from a single-file wiki back to a server wiki.

I guess I’m really asking is a server TiddlyWiki 5 useable as a single-page 
wiki without too much work? I don’t mind having to do some pre-processing 
before going on the road as it can probably be automated.

I know that I could host a server on the public internet, but my current 
provider deson’t support Node. 

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[tw] Re: Is there a bug in external image generation when using tiddlywiki render?

2018-01-09 Thread cpjobling

My TiddlyWiki.info is on GitHub:

https://github.com/cpjobling/journal.cpjobling.net/blob/master/wiki/tiddlywiki.info

I noticed that images seem to have changed from internal to external when I 
accidentally saved my networked wiki with image toddlers open as drafts.

After that they where external in both networked and static files versions ... 
but the images themselves had not been properly exported.

Chris 

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Re: [tw] Re: embedding .md (markdown) files?

2018-01-09 Thread BJ
browsers do not understand markdown, eg for chrome you must install a 
browser extension eg Markdown Preview Plus then you can embedd using an 
iframe EG



all the best 
BJ

On Monday, January 8, 2018 at 11:41:25 PM UTC+1, Shay Shaked wrote:
>
> Doesn't work for me. I put it as indicated in the tiddler body and I can't 
> see my file. I tried to embedding, same way I'd do with PDF, same result. 
> Path should be correct. What am I missing?
>
> On Jan 8, 2018 11:06, "Shay Shaked"  
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> So, install the plugin, and then the embedding should work. I will try it 
>> out. 
>>
>> On Jan 8, 2018 11:00, "'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki" <
>> tiddl...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>>
>>> Well, the one I used was here: 
>>> https://tiddlywiki.com/plugins/tiddlywiki/markdown/
>>>
>>> -- Mark
>>>
>>> On Monday, January 8, 2018 at 7:52:48 AM UTC-8, Shay Shaked wrote:

 Thanks Mark. I think I know which plugin, but would you be kind enough 
 to point me to it again so there are no mistakes? 

 Thank you. 

 On Jan 8, 2018 09:41, "'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki" <
 tiddl...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> This seems to work:
>
> <$wikify type="text/x-markdown" name="md" output="html" 
> text={{MarkdownExample}}>
> <>
> 
>
> Where text is replaced with your markdown tiddler you want embedded. 
> This will render the markdown even if the original text wasn't identified 
> as markdown. Of course you have to have md plugin installed.
>
> -- Mark
>
> On Monday, January 8, 2018 at 5:03:02 AM UTC-8, Shay Shaked wrote:
>>
>> That's an interesting point. When you use MD, the output us formatted 
>> - however, this formatted form is usually a "a preview" of the software 
>> you 
>> use (in my case, Typora) or . HTML 
>>
>> MD in itself has no real "look" for a better term. 
>>
>> I guess then, the question becomes, can I have TW "understand" MD and 
>> display it in respect to markdown rules? Just as it would display HTML 
>> embedding? 
>>
>> Why not just submit HTML then, you may ask? Because I use MD in 
>> tempora, and "printing" to HTML is making it a final product, meaning, I 
>> can't go into the HTML and edit it again in MD; now it's HTML. 
>>
>> Hmm. So this is an interesting turn. Need to think in different 
>> terms. 
>>
>> On Jan 8, 2018 07:52, "@TiddlyTweeter"  wrote:
>>
>>
>> MD source is plain text. If you embed that its the raw plain text 
>> you'd see. Maybe I'm misunderstanding you?
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Josiah
>>
>>
>> On Monday, 8 January 2018 11:56:44 UTC+1, Shay Shaked wrote:
>>>
>>> I asked something similar before, about writing md directly into TW 
>>> -- but this is not really useful, considering how much more complete 
>>> (imo) 
>>> TW text is. 
>>>
>>> OK, now question becomes this: I like embedding certain files inside 
>>> my journal tiddlers for the week, which include a project list, etc. I 
>>> still write many texts on my phone using markdown. Is there a way to 
>>> embed 
>>> them directly into a tiddler? For now, I print as PDF and embed this -- 
>>> not 
>>> too bad, but this means I can't make changes. I have to go back to the 
>>> original file and print again. 
>>>
>>> Suggestions? Thanks! 
>>>
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