date:20180505

The old cliche of multimedia training still holds true. Representing what you 
learn with a combination of media, text, audio, actions and repition, not to 
menton effective models and frameworks is a sure fire way to improve learning 
even without knowing why it helps.

Tiddlywiki can handle all of these.

Regards
Tony

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Updates to the MultiUser plugin and the Single Executable version

2018-05-05 Thread Stobot

Jed - just wanted to reach out and pass along a huge thank you for this! 
The multi-user capability that's easy to setup on Windows has been on the 
top of my wish list since TW5 made the tiddlylock plugin inoperable. 

While this is very easy, I still got confused trying to get it working once 
everything was opened. There is a button to set to 0.0.0.0 but then the 
text says press button for reset server, but the description after the 
button also says reset server afterwards... I'm probably just an idiot. I 
tried many things including eventually finding a tiddler with a reset 
button, not sure if that's what finally got it working, or if it was the 
multiple close / re-open operations etc. 

Anyways, very impressive!

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[tw5] Re: Get a sanitized filename from a tiddler title

It appears that the export/saving occurs in :

$:/core/modules/savers/download.js

However, it also appears that the conversion to a safe file system name is 
done by the browser. So it's not available unless there's an equivalent 
javascript file name conversion function out there somewhere.

Good luck!
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On Saturday, May 5, 2018 at 11:57:22 AM UTC-7, Marcio Augusto wrote:
>
> Only if portability is a requirement (which is indeed my case). However, 
> if someone uses TW only on Linux, there would be no need to worry about 
> invalid characters in Windows filenames.
> Digressions apart, I would like to find the function that does the 
> character conversion on the filename when the "export tiddler" is used, do 
> you have any sugestions?
>
> On Saturday, May 5, 2018 at 3:44:57 PM UTC-3, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> It has to make names that will be valid everywhere. Characters ? and : 
>> aren't valid in Windows filenames.
>>
>> On Saturday, May 5, 2018 at 9:34:08 AM UTC-7, Marcio Augusto wrote:
>>>
>>> Anyway, the code you pointed out does exactly what I need. I just could 
>>> not find it in the standard TW.
>>> Maybe the TW just passes the tiddler title "as is" to the browser, which 
>>> in turn does the invalid character replacement? Although on Linux, even 
>>> valid characters (like : and ?) gets replaced by "_".
>>>
>>>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] presenting TWRocketDock

2018-05-05 Thread Mat

@BTC, nice thing. I created something, rQuickTid 
, 
similar some time ago. Maybe relevant for comparison.

<:-)

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[tw5] Re: Material Theme for TW5 (sort of)

2018-05-05 Thread Kevin Kleinfelter

The material theme always has the sidebar closed on initial page load (for 
a node.js TW).  I'd prefer it always open.  Curiously, this behavior is 
backwards from the built-in themes.

I understand that state tiddlers are not persisted with a node.js TW, so I 
tried https://tobibeer.github.io/tb5/#Hiding%20The%20Sidebar%20On%20Startup.  
It sets the state tiddler during startup. But whether I set its config to 
'yes' or 'no', the sidebar is not visible on initial page load when 
Material is the active theme.

How can I make Material always open with the sidebar visible?
TIA

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] presenting TWRocketDock

confused.com here.
not sure what is the actual purpose of TWRockDock?

If I want to add things to my tW in my browser i can just have my TW in a 
different browser window? or am I missing a trick here?

cheers

On Monday, February 19, 2018 at 9:40:53 PM UTC, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> Hi, I'm making this little TW companion that let's you edit tiddlers while 
> browsing on other websites, dragging stuff into your wiki and more
>
> I hope you like it, and find it useful!
>
> http://rocketdock.tiddlyspot.com
>
> (do I need to check trademarks?)
>
> cheers,
> BTC
>

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[tw5] Re: Something similar to Terminal wild card

Excellent - exactly what i had in mind 

thanks 

On Saturday, May 5, 2018 at 7:41:39 PM UTC+1, Mark S. wrote:
>
> The regexp filter. e.g.
>
> [regexp[.*Gentle]]
>
> Will reveal 
>
> A Gentle Guide to TiddlyWiki 
>  
> HelloThumbnail - Gentle Guide 
> 
>
> HTH
> -- Mark
>
>
> On Saturday, May 5, 2018 at 10:58:45 AM UTC-7, kelsang sherab wrote:
>>
>> When searching in a Linux Shell - it has a functionality of wild cards.
>>
>> Does it exist in the advance search filter expression?
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Conversion to Node.js problems

Heh, of course after I say all of that there I make a mistake somewhere.
The dust bunnies are hiding in the example settings file on GitHub. I made
a mistake and put the wrong host in it.

But with as careful as I was about default values and not exposing things
that shouldn't be exposed I made a mistake in a demo settings file. So
given that this sort of mistake is almost invisible (if you hadn't
mentioned it I would have no reason to use the demo wiki or to think there
are any problems with it) and can happen when all the defaults are what
they should be and I know what I am doing.

Which is why hosting files is a separate thing and is not enabled by
default. Otherwise that mistake would mean that all the files on anyones
computer would have been exposed instead of one wiki.

Also I always forget that people aren't like me and won't immediately
customise everything. I know that I should expect it but using the default
or example version is still something that I have to force myself to
consider people doing.

So I need to go change that demo settings file.

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[tw5] Re: The Art Of Memory -- Just a few thousand years of thoughts

lol! touche!

Ste Wilson wrote:
>
> "I do think that "squirrelling behaviour" is pretty central to actual acts 
> of committed memory.
>
> Josiah"
>
> Running up tress and hiding your nuts? That would explain much.. 
>
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[tw5] Re: Get a sanitized filename from a tiddler title

Only if portability is a requirement (which is indeed my case). However, if 
someone uses TW only on Linux, there would be no need to worry about 
invalid characters in Windows filenames.
Digressions apart, I would like to find the function that does the 
character conversion on the filename when the "export tiddler" is used, do 
you have any sugestions?

On Saturday, May 5, 2018 at 3:44:57 PM UTC-3, Mark S. wrote:
>
> It has to make names that will be valid everywhere. Characters ? and : 
> aren't valid in Windows filenames.
>
> On Saturday, May 5, 2018 at 9:34:08 AM UTC-7, Marcio Augusto wrote:
>>
>> Anyway, the code you pointed out does exactly what I need. I just could 
>> not find it in the standard TW.
>> Maybe the TW just passes the tiddler title "as is" to the browser, which 
>> in turn does the invalid character replacement? Although on Linux, even 
>> valid characters (like : and ?) gets replaced by "_".
>>
>>

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Re: [tw5] Tiddlymap node positions

2018-05-05 Thread Felix Küppers

Hi Robin,

It's either all nodes "fixed" or all nodes "floating" in TiddlyMap, you cannot
set individual nodes to "fixed".

In any case, the setting is in the view configuration ("configure view") under
the "layout" section and called "floating nodes".

Best wishes

Felix

On 05/05/2018 01:34 PM, Robin wrote:
Hey,

I was looking in tiddlymap to get the nodes or some node types to stay at a
fixed position

Looking trough the settings I couldn't find it.
As a good little googler I found on vis.js the node settings fixed.x and fixed.y

Can anyone point me in the direction where in tiddlymap I can apply those
settings?
Or if it can't be done help me stop looking.
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[tw5] Re: Get a sanitized filename from a tiddler title

It has to make names that will be valid everywhere. Characters ? and : 
aren't valid in Windows filenames.

On Saturday, May 5, 2018 at 9:34:08 AM UTC-7, Marcio Augusto wrote:
>
> Anyway, the code you pointed out does exactly what I need. I just could 
> not find it in the standard TW.
> Maybe the TW just passes the tiddler title "as is" to the browser, which 
> in turn does the invalid character replacement? Although on Linux, even 
> valid characters (like : and ?) gets replaced by "_".
>
> On Saturday, May 5, 2018 at 1:24:49 PM UTC-3, Marcio Augusto wrote:
>>
>> If it would be possible to use something from the standard TW (as I am 
>> assuming the "export tiddler" button does), I would like to avoid adding 
>> something that would duplicate a function that already exists.
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Something similar to Terminal wild card

The regexp filter. e.g.

[regexp[.*Gentle]]

Will reveal 

A Gentle Guide to TiddlyWiki 
 
HelloThumbnail - Gentle Guide 


HTH
-- Mark


On Saturday, May 5, 2018 at 10:58:45 AM UTC-7, kelsang sherab wrote:
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> When searching in a Linux Shell - it has a functionality of wild cards.
>
> Does it exist in the advance search filter expression?
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[tw5] Re: The Art Of Memory -- Just a few thousand years of thoughts

You have to admit, it's memorable.

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>
> "I do think that "squirrelling behaviour" is pretty central to actual acts 
> of committed memory.
>
> Josiah"
>
> Running up tress and hiding your nuts? That would explain much.. 
>
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[tw5] Re: Something similar to Terminal wild card

Thanks

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> No wildcard operator exists, but you can achieve similar things using 
> prefix and suffix filters.
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[tw5] Re: The Art Of Memory -- Just a few thousand years of thoughts

2018-05-05 Thread Ste Wilson

"I do think that "squirrelling behaviour" is pretty central to actual acts of 
committed memory.

Josiah"

Running up tress and hiding your nuts? That would explain much.. 

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[tw5] Re: Conversion to Node.js problems

Ji Jed,

On Saturday, May 5, 2018 at 10:34:56 AM UTC-7, Jed Carty wrote:
 

> There are plenty of secure ways to use node as an externally facing 
> server, I have one set up for tiddlywiki. But security is a difficult 
> problem and it isn't obvious where there are security concerns, even to 
> experienced security people. It is generally a good idea to go with a more 
> conservative approach to security.
>
>
Yes. Security is messy. Which is why I assume that node isn't meant to be 
web-facing. I suppose you can use some sort of vpn. But it might be better 
to use syncthing which has security baked-in from the start.
 

>  
>
As a developer I do have responsibility for the things that I create so I 
> am never going to make something that serves on 0.0.0.0 by default, nor 
> anything that serves any file from the hard drive by default because it is 
> unreasonable to expect everyone who uses what I make to understand the 
> security and privacy implications of that.
>

Uhmm ... when I launch your multi-user node (a few days older version) I 
get 

Serving on 0.0.0.0:8080
>

I'm pretty sure *I* didn't put that 0.0.0.0 there. Unless it's the 
dust-bunnies carousing in my memory palace.

Anything that we make as the basic version of tiddlywiki should be as safe 
> as possible. That means no serving arbitrary files by default. If people 
> want to change the settings they are free to do that, but here there be 
> dragons.
>

True, but it's not in there at all. Nor any warning or direction about 
images. And no alert about the dangers of coffee-shop use, which for a lot 
of people is a main use-case.

-- Mark

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[tw5] Re: Something similar to Terminal wild card

No wildcard operator exists, but you can achieve similar things using 
prefix and suffix filters.

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[tw5] Re: Calories & Carbs & Fiber, Oh My

On Keto. Its a bit of an odd field. I'd think the whole thing should be 
simple forensics. But i'm often left not knowing what is what.

On doing actual fasting I feel on firmer ground.

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[tw5] Something similar to Terminal wild card

When searching in a Linux Shell - it has a functionality of wild cards.

Does it exist in the advance search filter expression?

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[tw5] Re: The Art Of Memory -- Just a few thousand years of thoughts

Ciao Mark S.

"The Art Of Memory". Francis Yates. The bees-knees: 
http://tinyurl.com/y7bq4f4w

Mark S. wrote:
>
> As a teenager, long before Benedictine Cucumber-Patch as Sure-lock Homes 
> (see how it works?) made Memory Palaces popular, I had read "The Memory 
> Book" by Harry Lorayne and Jerry Lucas. Generally, mnemonics are an aid for 
> short-term memory. Only repetition really seems to nail things down. 
> Preferably spaced repetition. The exception is number-encoding systems 
> (Major, Dominic) since numbers really are too abstract. Plus it gives you a 
> game to play with license plates when stuck in traffic.
>
> The thing about the "art of the locus", the journey method, the memory 
> palace method, etc. is that they add context to memories. Human memory 
> doesn't have a numerical or alphabetical index. Instead it is based on 
> context, preferably physical locations.
>
> On paper, or on computers, outlines and mind maps provide a 
> location-independent context. That's why something like the TWOutlier (or 
> something better made) can help your own mind remember what kinds of 
> information you have squirreled away ... somewhere.
>

I do think that "squirrelling behaviour" is pretty central to actual acts 
of committed memory.

Josiah

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[tw5] Re: Conversion to Node.js problems

It doesn't have to be web facing to be a security concern. If you ever
bring your computer or phone to starbucks it is exposed on a public network
and if you have anything set up to be served on 0.0.0.0 it is accessible to
anyone there, and if it is also able to serve anything from your computer
your entire hard drive is exposed to everyone.

There are plenty of secure ways to use node as an externally facing server,
I have one set up for tiddlywiki. But security is a difficult problem and
it isn't obvious where there are security concerns, even to experienced
security people. It is generally a good idea to go with a more conservative
approach to security.

As a developer I do have responsibility for the things that I create so I
am never going to make something that serves on 0.0.0.0 by default, nor
anything that serves any file from the hard drive by default because it is
unreasonable to expect everyone who uses what I make to understand the
security and privacy implications of that.

If someone using what I make wants to change the settings to allow those
things than they can, but then it is their decision to do something
potentially dangerous and expose themselves in that way.

Anything that we make as the basic version of tiddlywiki should be as safe
as possible. That means no serving arbitrary files by default. If people
want to change the settings they are free to do that, but here there be
dragons.

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[tw5] Re: Conversion to Node.js problems

Mark S. wrote:

> Well, it does mean that TW on node can't do everything that stand-alone TW 
> can do, which isn't clear to most people considering node as a save 
> option...
>

Agreed.

I think the lack of clarity about that in documentation is a Black Mark for 
users. These kinds of fundamental things need to be clear. Its easier to be 
okayish, once you know its gonna be hassle to image. But not knowing that 
up-front is not good.

To me, loss of images is pretty important.
>

Totally agree. 

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[tw5] Re: Conversion to Node.js problems

On Saturday, May 5, 2018 at 3:18:05 AM UTC-7, Jed Carty wrote:
>
>
> And I think that I should point out that the node version not serving 
> other files on your computer is because of how servers work, it isn't a 
> tiddlywiki specific problem. 
>

Well, it does mean that TW on node can't do everything that stand-alone TW 
can do, which isn't clear to most people considering node as a save option. 
To me, loss of images is pretty important.

Is there any intrinsic reason why tiddlywiki on node couldn't come with a 
server like Arlen's does? In terms of security, I wouldn't expect node.js 
to be web-facing. Or am I wrong? Is there a secure way to use node across 
the internet?

Thanks!
Mark

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[tw5] Re: The Art Of Memory -- Just a few thousand years of thoughts

As a teenager, long before Benedictine Cucumber-Patch as Sure-lock Homes 
(see how it works?) made Memory Palaces popular, I had read "The Memory 
Book" by Harry Lorayne and Jerry Lucas. Generally, mnemonics are an aid for 
short-term memory. Only repetition really seems to nail things down. 
Preferably spaced repetition. The exception is number-encoding systems 
(Major, Dominic) since numbers really are too abstract. Plus it gives you a 
game to play with license plates when stuck in traffic.

The thing about the "art of the locus", the journey method, the memory 
palace method, etc. is that they add context to memories. Human memory 
doesn't have a numerical or alphabetical index. Instead it is based on 
context, preferably physical locations.

On paper, or on computers, outlines and mind maps provide a 
location-independent context. That's why something like the TWOutlier (or 
something better made) can help your own mind remember what kinds of 
information you have squirreled away ... somewhere.

-- Mark

On Saturday, May 5, 2018 at 3:48:34 AM UTC-7, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Before the idea of "external memory" (writing, then computers) we had the 
> "art of the locus". First mentioned in Ancient Greece.
>
> This method of organising information uses associative memory. A computer 
> before computing. Typically one would visualise a complex building with 
> alcoves, statues, pathways and other VISUAL markers. You'd rehearse the 
> environment in mind till it got stable. Then you'd associate points in it 
> with things you needed to remember.
>
> For instance, to recall a telephone number of Jennifer you'd maybe 
> associate her image and number with the left knee of the visualised statue 
> of Michaelangelo's David. It works.
>
> One of the problems with "modern memory" is its crap ... externalisation 
> of memory (via various techs) increasingly obviates the need for internal 
> cognitive practice. Without that you end in dependency on tech. I'm not 
> convinced that is entirely healthy.
>
> One of the things that interests me about TiddlyWiki is whether it could 
> be used to foster a VISUAL memory system too.
>
> Modern computing is driven by text. The "other" soft-edged-signifiers, 
> visual, sonic & movemental meaning, have, still, a secondary place. 
> Probably because they can't be ordered to order.  
>
> It might be interesting to create a TW where all navigation is through 
> images.
>
> Just wide thoughts
> Josiah
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Calories & Carbs & Fiber, Oh My

It can easily be expanded to track whatever vitamins you're concerned with. 
The main thing is doing the research for each food, and then recalibrating 
it for whatever metric you tend to use. So, for instance, I'm interested in 
Potassium, but I would have to go back and research each food for K, which 
is a bit time consuming.

My concern about distributing my whole kit of foods (about 20 now I think) 
is whether the dietary info is copyrighted. You might think that actual 
facts can't be copyrighted, but I'm not so sure since one source may say an 
banana is 89 calories and another 90 calories. One source may have bumped 
its number to make it distinguished from competitors. There's probably more 
than +/- 3 calories difference in a lot of foods. These kinds of 
"purposeful" errors are how map companies track violators. Buying my own 
bomb calorimeter is somewhat impractical.

Since the last release, I've added a recipe calculator so you can calculate 
the value of dishes you prepare yourself (like breads and cookies). I 
should put everything together to make another release.

-- Mark

On Saturday, May 5, 2018 at 7:58:12 AM UTC-7, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Ciao Mark S.
>
> That is good! I would appreciate any further data you have.
>
> FYI, I practice Keto most by fasting twice a year. But am interested in 
> maintaining a Keto diet in-between fasts, which is really not easy. I 
> mostly worry about vitamins & trace elements.
>
> Josiah
>

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[tw5] Re: Get a sanitized filename from a tiddler title

Anyway, the code you pointed out does exactly what I need. I just could not 
find it in the standard TW.
Maybe the TW just passes the tiddler title "as is" to the browser, which in 
turn does the invalid character replacement? Although on Linux, even valid 
characters (like : and ?) gets replaced by "_".

On Saturday, May 5, 2018 at 1:24:49 PM UTC-3, Marcio Augusto wrote:
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> If it would be possible to use something from the standard TW (as I am 
> assuming the "export tiddler" button does), I would like to avoid adding 
> something that would duplicate a function that already exists.
>
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[tw5] Re: Get a sanitized filename from a tiddler title

If it would be possible to use something from the standard TW (as I am 
assuming the "export tiddler" button does), I would like to avoid adding 
something that would duplicate a function that already exists.

On Saturday, May 5, 2018 at 1:04:22 PM UTC-3, Jed Carty wrote:
>
> What I said in my last post only works if you are using it on node and 
> isn't available in the browser. But you could make a javascript macro or 
> widget that uses the same code to have it available in the browser.
>

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[tw5] Re: Get a sanitized filename from a tiddler title

What I said in my last post only works if you are using it on node and 
isn't available in the browser. But you could make a javascript macro or 
widget that uses the same code to have it available in the browser.

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[tw5] Re: Get a sanitized filename from a tiddler title

There is a function called generateTiddlerBaseFilepath that is part of the 
filesystem plugin. Starts on line 118 of this file:

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/blob/master/plugins/tiddlywiki/filesystem/filesystemadaptor.js

If you have the filesystem plugin active (or the multiuser plugin, it uses 
the same thing) than the function is accessible as 
$tw.syncadaptor.generateTiddlerBaseFilepath

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[tw5] Re: Get a sanitized filename from a tiddler title

Hi Mario,
I would like to create a string from the tiddler title, replacing any 
character invalid in a filename (like <>:"\/|?*^) with an underscore, just 
like the tiddler export button does.
Cheers,
Marcio.

On Saturday, May 5, 2018 at 12:27:31 PM UTC-3, PMario wrote:
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> Hi Marcio,
>
> What do you mean with "sanitized". Can you give some examples?
>
> -mario
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[tw5] Re: Get a sanitized filename from a tiddler title

2018-05-05 Thread PMario

Hi Marcio,

What do you mean with "sanitized". Can you give some examples?

-mario

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[tw5] Re: The Art Of Memory -- Just a few thousand years of thoughts

xanato...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> you can ask those questions in a forum / training site 
> https://artofmemory.com . 
>

Right. I agree. But I'm also interested in it here. Well, today :-). 
 

> ... How you would picture the task to save the wiki in beaker browser or 
> on node.js or to download it. 
> Do you use the logos of the respective program or a gif picture what it 
> does? 
>

THAT is part of the issue. Until we experiment a bit more visually to find 
out. The idea you need a specialist site in order to understand the 
mechanism of memory I don't think is so good. NOT that I have anything 
against the effort, but rather, better to integrate it into normal praxis. 

What do you want to memorize? Is it facts that need to be remembered, 
> because you need them for your job/school ?
>
Not in my case. School is over. Rather, helping new learners understand 
better how associative memory works. It really does work. 

I was thinking about how to create a TW that helps it. I'm unclear how to 
realise that.

Does it need to be understandable for others or only for yourself? 
>

The later, for the former.

Best wishes
Josiah

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[tw5] Experimental table of contents TW - need feedback

2018-05-05 Thread David Gifford

Hi all

Somehow I got obsessed with this idea and have been playing off an on for a 
week. I would love your feedback on how I could make this experimental TW 
better. Create toc items from within the toc, etc. I have a list of things 
there that I still want to do, and for two of them I need your help.

http://giffmex.org/experiments/note.slam.template.notready.html

I will be gone on a trip this weekend, so I will not have time to respond 
till next week. Thanks in advance for your input!

Blessings,

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[tw5] Re: Calories & Carbs & Fiber, Oh My

Ciao Mark S.

That is good! I would appreciate any further data you have.

FYI, I practice Keto most by fasting twice a year. But am interested in 
maintaining a Keto diet in-between fasts, which is really not easy. I 
mostly worry about vitamins & trace elements.

Josiah

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[tw5] Get a sanitized filename from a tiddler title

Hi,
Anyone knows how to convert the tiddler title to a sanitized string to use 
as a filename, just as the "export tiddler" button does?
I spent a lot of time searching the group messages and even wading through 
the source code, and I am just unable to sort this out.
Any help is appreciated.
Cheers,
Marcio.

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[tw5] Re: The Art Of Memory -- Just a few thousand years of thoughts

2018-05-05 Thread xanatoswetzel

Hi @TiddlyTweeter,

you can ask those questions in a forum / training site 
https://artofmemory.com . This is a place where each other helps to master 
all kind of memory learn problems/tricks - 
with and without computer. From memory athletes for everyone.

And because everyone has another understanding or feelings about different 
pictures , it is so complicated to design a visual only Tiddlywiki for 
example.
You need to have a text only alternative for not so easy pictures. 

For example: How you would picture the task to save the wiki in beaker 
browser or on node.js or to download it. 
Do you use the logos of the respective program or a gif picture what it 
does? 

What do you want to memorize? Is it facts that need to be remembered, 
because you need them for your job/school ?

Does it need to be understandable for others or only for yourself? 

So to end my post: What is your need?

Best wishes
QuaraMan

Am Samstag, 5. Mai 2018 14:54:46 UTC+2 schrieb @TiddlyTweeter:
>
> TonyM wrote:
>>
>> But I do not agree with *'One of the problems with "modern memory" is 
>> its crap', *because it is the best its ever being.
>>
>
> On THIS you missed my point. 
>
> The "crapness of memory" I meant here was basic memory failure in 
> persistence once you have an "externalised third means" (writing, 
> computers) acting for your brain. My point was about using your brain with 
> NO CRUTCHES. That i could ask you and you would not need to click keys to 
> find an answer.
>
> My question is perhaps not popular--but WHY have a computer when you can 
> do it in thought already? THAT I think is a real question. 
>
> And, as is -- IS using this thing damaging my abilities to recollect?
>
> Best wishes
> Josiah
>
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[tw5] Re: The Art Of Memory -- Just a few thousand years of thoughts

TonyM wrote:
>
> But I do not agree with *'One of the problems with "modern memory" is its 
> crap', *because it is the best its ever being.
>

On THIS you missed my point. 

The "crapness of memory" I meant here was basic memory failure in 
persistence once you have an "externalised third means" (writing, 
computers) acting for your brain. My point was about using your brain with 
NO CRUTCHES. That i could ask you and you would not need to click keys to 
find an answer.

My question is perhaps not popular--but WHY have a computer when you can do 
it in thought already? THAT I think is a real question. 

And, as is -- IS using this thing damaging my abilities to recollect?

Best wishes
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[tw5] Re: The Art Of Memory -- Just a few thousand years of thoughts

TonyM wrote:
>
> ... my hunch is we can do more than ever today with knowledge
>

Absolutely TRUE. Probably the best conception of that is Popper's World 
Three  
... the subsistence of knowledge external to people.

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[tw5] Re: How to change the title of every non-system tiddler

JW,

There may be another solution. Install Mario's bundler plugin and in its 
settings you can choose to overwrite existing tiddlers or rename them on 
import if you are using bundles or not.
.

Regards
tony

On Saturday, May 5, 2018 at 8:00:36 AM UTC+10, JWHoneycutt wrote:
>
> I would like to import a large group of tiddlers into another wiki, but 
> can't guarantee there aren't a few with the same title, and I do not want 
> overwrites.
>
> So I simply want to change the title of every (nonsystem) tiddler in the 
> export file to add a prefix of "." (period)
>
> It sounds like it should be easy but I am not there yet.
>
> My best guess is:
> 1) Use fieldmangler widget to add message field "title2" 
> 2) Use addprefix to add "." to "title" and place it into title2
> 3) Replace "title" with "title2"
>
> As always, any thoughts are appreciated
> JWHoneycutt
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[tw5] Re: The Art Of Memory -- Just a few thousand years of thoughts

Josiah,

I agree "It might be interesting to create a TW where all navigation is
through images." and for the reasons you state.

But I do not agree with *'One of the problems with "modern memory" is its
crap', *because it is the best its ever being. This outsourcing allows us
access to a greater amount of knowledge, some times we need only remember a
word or phrase to encapsulate a complex concept eg tiddlywiki.

Yes, we do under-utilise some aspects of natural memory and even memory
systems you can learn, and yes a failure to remember the subtleties behind
external knowledge can make us dumb to important knowledge, but to suggest
on balance the result is worse, or crap as you suggest, is a complex
argument both of us will find difficulty arguing our position. However my
hunch is we can do more than ever today with knowledge, memory and thinking
due to these external, global and networked knowledge which makes a big
part of our knowledge universe.

Not withstanding the above we can already see how returning to our evolved
cognitive functions bares fruits, take icons and touch screens as an
example.

Navigation through images is but one, using smell in recollection, or face
memory or track memory may be even stronger. How do we learn a song, or
music, or language? all these offer enormous existing subroutines we could
use to advance our connection with the virtual worlds of knowledge.

Track memory is a favourite of mine, it is how we learn to find our way
back, or along the same path a second time, it supports real world
navigation but also the next 5+ steps, we rarely look where we step, we
tend to look some steps ahead and an unconscious system puts the feet where
they should be. Have you being bush walking recently?

Regards
Tony

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[tw5] Query -- has anyone made a Single Tiddler PRINT button?

I often find I need to print a single Tiddler. At the moment I have to (1) 
open it in a new window with just that Tiddler, (2) right click to find a 
print option.

*Could it be done just through a button on the individual Tiddler on one 
click?*

Anyone done that already?

An upside is it would also enable TiddlyDesktop wikis to print individual 
Tiddlers--which it currently can't do.

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[tw5] Tiddlymap node positions

2018-05-05 Thread Robin

Hey,

I was looking in tiddlymap to get the nodes or some node types to stay at a 
fixed position

Looking trough the settings I couldn't find it.
As a good little googler I found on vis.js the node settings *fixed.x* and 

*fixed.y *Can anyone point me in the direction where in tiddlymap I can 
apply those settings?
Or if it can't be done help me stop looking.

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[tw5] Re: How to change the title of every non-system tiddler

2018-05-05 Thread JWHoneycutt

@Mark S. 

Thank you so much! 
Yes, I knew that the title is crucial to TW5 function, which is why I 
wasn't sure how to proceed.

I really appreciate your help.
JWH

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[tw5] The Art Of Memory -- Just a few thousand years of thoughts

Before the idea of "external memory" (writing, then computers) we had the
"art of the locus". First mentioned in Ancient Greece.

This method of organising information uses associative memory. A computer
before computing. Typically one would visualise a complex building with
alcoves, statues, pathways and other VISUAL markers. You'd rehearse the
environment in mind till it got stable. Then you'd associate points in it
with things you needed to remember.

For instance, to recall a telephone number of Jennifer you'd maybe
associate her image and number with the left knee of the visualised statue
of Michaelangelo's David. It works.

One of the problems with "modern memory" is its crap ... externalisation of
memory (via various techs) increasingly obviates the need for internal
cognitive practice. Without that you end in dependency on tech. I'm not
convinced that is entirely healthy.

One of the things that interests me about TiddlyWiki is whether it could be
used to foster a VISUAL memory system too.

Modern computing is driven by text. The "other" soft-edged-signifiers,
visual, sonic & movemental meaning, have, still, a secondary place.
Probably because they can't be ordered to order.

It might be interesting to create a TW where all navigation is through
images.

Just wide thoughts
Josiah

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[tw5] Re: Conversion to Node.js problems

What do you want to be able to do on iOS? If you want to be able to edit 
and view the wiki when the different node options will let you.

And I think that I should point out that the node version not serving other 
files on your computer is because of how servers work, it isn't a 
tiddlywiki specific problem. You have to explicitly say what the server 
makes available or it becomes a huge security problem because anyone can 
access anything on your computer.

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[tw5] Re: TWOutlier (TOC based Outliner for TW5)

Mark and Josiah,

Focusing on practical results drive some of us, or all of us some of the time. 
However a diverse approach in a community is always better. Given the way I 
think, I can gererate a thousand posible solutions/applications or end states, 
I have hundreds listed in a tiddlywiki, many partialy complete but I can see 
which are hard or time consuming and my journey is one of continuose 
improvement to have in place the fundimental tools, each of which once 
developed open the gates to rapidly developing hundreds of  more solutions. Of 
course I write proof of concept examples which can look like end states but 
personaly I profit more from finding systemic or structural or ecosystem 
solutions.

Many of the best solutions have already taken the same approach given the main 
product of development so far has being plugins rather than editions.

Yes more editions, more solutions on the shelf all makes sence, I will help you 
with that and if you can champion and inspire them please do, we need this, but 
with all humility you also need people like me or people who build powerful 
plugins who look and carry tiddlywiki even further forward like Jeds multiuser, 
noteself, evans formula plugin and my dreams to mention a few.

Regards
Tony

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[tw5] Re: I'd like to talk about TiddlyDesktop -- Seeking your experience of it ...

Ciao Morgaine

Morgaine O'Herne wrote:
>
> I haven't tried Desktop yet, but regular Tiddlywiki5 is great, and I'm 
> using it for a number of things.  Is Desktop much different?
>

TiddlyDesktop is an application that lets you to run and organise any 
number of TW, save them and back them up automatically without needing a 
browser. In that way it more resembles a conventional application. Its easy 
to set-up.

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[tw5] Re: TWOutlier (TOC based Outliner for TW5)

Greg,

I truely understand what you are asking for and I believe it's achievable in 
principle.

I have not reached into javascript yet but not sure I need to, but I plan to 
put the developer hat on soon.

I have contributed to others work by asking for minor changes that keep their 
solutions somewhat interoperable. An outliner based on heirachical tagging is a 
good example. The items tagged by a given tag can form a stack on drop boards 
kanban view. 

My design approach is to build solutions that sit on top of tiddlywiki not in 
it. This includes queue or list management, tiddler disposition, fields as 1st 
class citizens and designer views using a variation on an outliner. All of 
these should be able to live in the same wiki including with my first plugin 
mymenus (and other plugins) and to do this they should leverage the native way 
to do things. If we all write solutions on top of the native structure they 
should interopperate. Another way is to make solutions sit to the side of the 
native methods not compromising other solutions.

I have only started on this journey so it will take time before I can 
collaborate to set design criteria to ensure such interoperability. Least of 
all to prove the validity of an approach.

This is also a costly (in time) venture, and the results will always be 
presented on an open source platform with multiple ways to copy and reuse my 
own and others intelectual output, I am all for this but only recently 
discovered a possible way to earn a return. That is basicaly being an expert in 
the tiddlywiki eco system and always contributing to it (user and developer) 
but being in a position to rapidly develop bespoke or goobal solutions. I will 
never be in competition with the comunity only with alternative platforms out 
there. The truth is if we build our own development frameworks, methods, 
patterns in collaboration with the community we all grow, by sharing, this 
exists for the core but not so much for end sooutions. Yet if we are expert and 
tiddlywiki use grows there will always be non experts we can help, and people 
who want to commission solutions.

Further it would be nice if we could crowd source solutions off each other with 
a return or prize to the solution provider, this would help fund developers 
translate what they know to what we share. It is easy to see the effort it 
takes to translate a bespoke solution into an easy to use plugin, even more so 
if it can opperate in the eco system without compromising interopperability.

Just a bit of where my thinkng is at.

Background. Sick of being an employee I am striking out on my own, I have very 
little income and hundreds of possible sucess vectors, I hope tiddlywiki will 
be one of them. This freedom must come to an end if I can not mak a "right 
livelihood" from tiddlywiki, my consulting, trouble shooting, cloud solutions, 
website design, support and hosting.

Am I deluded about tiddlywiki, is my belief in it just apparent sucess that 
makes me feel good? 

Regards
Tony

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[tw5] Re: TWOutlier (TOC based Outliner for TW5)

Ciao Mark S. & all

Mark S. wrote:

> I think you'd have to start with a specific end-product in mind, and then 
> get various people to agree to work on it together. 
>

I think that is an excellent idea.

But I don't know what central target product would be compelling enough for 
> everyone to aim for.

Right. But perhaps that is part of such a process? 

Partly because I don't like programming & am not good at it, I incline to 
"final function" questions, rather than programatic ones, like: "What 
should it look like? What am I try to do? Why? What are its main outputs? 
What are the steps to that?" 

I do think *EXPLICIT design* thoughts are incredibly helpful in both 
generating an agenda of work needed and more accurately know if something 
is likely possible.

Also, I WONDER, if a "development of a whole TW app." more explicitly in 
public could simultaneously provide better "documentation by example?"

Best wishes
Josiah

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[tw5] Re: TWOutlier (TOC based Outliner for TW5)

Ciao Mark & all

Mark S. wrote:
>
> One of the things that bothers me about TiddlyWiki, Evernote, and 
> Simplenotes is that creating notes and tagging isn't really enough. There's 
> a lingering worry that you're going to forget that you saved stuff in the 
> first place. Being able to create a tree or outline structure is kind of a 
> way to help your mental "wiki" remember what all you've put in your actual 
> Wiki. But that may be just me. The "NoteStorm"  app was my default TW back 
> with in the days of TWC. It provided some structure that helped keep your 
> thinking primed.
>

Great observation. IMO the fundamental "matching" between human cognition 
and some computed organisation ("how to organise me", in this context) is a 
long-term saga.

Part of the issue is that many of the apps. are developed from "what works" 
-- I'm un-convined that just because it works its actually a good optimal 
match to real human process. I have the uneasy feeling we are matching IT, 
rather than IT matches us. I think that is a good example of that.

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Re: [tw5] Re: [TW5] preventing tiddler-links to break by using ids as reference that translate into titles