date:20181120

Bimlas,

Because I have used it a long time this way, I can be sure what if any 
settings I chose. But with the attached image, notice that once you open a 
topic you can select from some views

[image: 2018-11-21_17-44-45.jpg]
Regards
Tony

On Wednesday, November 21, 2018 at 5:36:48 PM UTC+11, bimlas wrote:
>
> Maybe you're right, I'm trying to get acquainted with the Google interface 
> because it's available anywhere without installation.
>

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[tw5] Re: Macro with variable number of attributes (parameter)

Marks Idea of passing a list is a great one, and more elegant than this 
suggestion

However if there is a theoretical maximum you can just define it with img1 
img2... img10 and include the logic to process only the ones provided (have 
a value).

Regards
Tony

On Wednesday, November 21, 2018 at 3:36:39 PM UTC+11, Mohammad wrote:
>
> The TW macro can accept the optional parameter! An optional parameter is 
> the one you can send its value on macro call or you can ignore and macro 
> will use some default value!
> My question is can we have a macro with variable number of parameters 
> (attributes)
>
> See below macro
>
> \define mypic(caption:"no caption", img)
> 
> [img[$img$]]
>  style="text-align:center;font-weight:700;">$caption$
> 
> \end
>
> I want to call mypic as below
>
> <>
>
> and
>
> <>
>
>
>
> What do you think?
>
>
> I know JS has this capability, see below
>
> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/Functions/rest_parameters
>
>
> Mohammad
>

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Re: [tw5] Semi-offtopic: Client for Google Groups?

2018-11-20 Thread bimlas

Maybe you're right, I'm trying to get acquainted with the Google interface 
because it's available anywhere without installation.

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[tw5] Re: Macro with variable number of attributes (parameter)

You could pass a list in quotes, like:

\define stuff(myvar mylist) 
I saw $myvar$. Then 
<$list filter="[enlist[$mylist$]]">
<$view field="title"/>

\end

-- Mark

On Tuesday, November 20, 2018 at 8:36:39 PM UTC-8, Mohammad wrote:
>
> The TW macro can accept the optional parameter! An optional parameter is 
> the one you can send its value on macro call or you can ignore and macro 
> will use some default value!
> My question is can we have a macro with variable number of parameters 
> (attributes)
>
> See below macro
>
> \define mypic(caption:"no caption", img)
> 
> [img[$img$]]
>  style="text-align:center;font-weight:700;">$caption$
> 
> \end
>
> I want to call mypic as below
>
> <>
>
> and
>
> <>
>
>
>
> What do you think?
>
>
> I know JS has this capability, see below
>
> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/Functions/rest_parameters
>
>
> Mohammad
>

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Re: [tw5] ANN: ftlist plugin - capture and organize quick notes

2018-11-20 Thread SteveH

Dear Brian,

Thanks for the plugin; - giving it a test run.  Is there a way to rearrange 
the list of tiddlers (apart from sending one to the top)?

Regards 

Steve H

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Re: [tw5] ANN: ftlist plugin - capture and organize quick notes

2018-11-20 Thread Brian Theado

Josiah,

On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 1:21 PM @TiddlyTweeter  wrote:
> Dear Bilbo Theado
> That looks very interesting TW leverage for gaming! :-)

Ha! I'm pretty sure you are kidding :-). No gaming here. I use it as a
todo list and was having trouble of thinking of examples. I recall
seeing todo examples in TiddlyMap which looked like they were from
Lord of the Rings and I thought I'd go that route also :-).

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[tw5] Macro with variable number of attributes (parameter)

The TW macro can accept the optional parameter! An optional parameter is 
the one you can send its value on macro call or you can ignore and macro 
will use some default value!
My question is can we have a macro with variable number of parameters 
(attributes)

See below macro

\define mypic(caption:"no caption", img)

[img[$img$]]
$caption$

\end

I want to call mypic as below

<>

and

<>



What do you think?


I know JS has this capability, see below
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/Functions/rest_parameters


Mohammad

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Re: [tw5] ANN: ftlist plugin - capture and organize quick notes

2018-11-20 Thread Brian Theado

Tony,

On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 5:03 PM TonyM  wrote:
>  I can see you have put effort into the documentation and explaining it.
Thanks. I did and was still worried it wasn't clear enough.

> It has taken me a little effort to grasp the value of this and I think it is 
> great.

I'm glad you were able to figure it out. I'll probably continue
working on it in the coming weeks. Hopefully I can find ways to reduce
the effort on the part of the reader. Thanks for making the effort

> Perhaps you could describe one or more ways we would use it in your 
> documentation, not the mechanical steps but the general approach.

I'll keep that in mind as I work on it.

> I see great value in using it to rapidly create items, it would interest me 
> if I could provide a template tiddler from which to create the new tiddlers 
> in addition to the tagging ftlist does for us.

Do you mean the user provides a tiddler name and each time a new list
item is created, instead of only setting the title and adding the tag,
it would also copy all the fields from that template tiddler? IOW: 1)
"clone" the template tidder; 2) Apply the tag; and 3) set the title to
what the user entered in the edit box. That's an interesting idea.

Thanks for the feedback.

Brian

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[tw5] Re: new save-selection command in the prerelease...

Jan,
 This is not directly related to your question, but how one can find what 
are the new features in TW prerelease?
I think https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/#TiddlyWiki%20Pre-release does 
not cover the all the new features!

It would be great if a blog, a page on https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease 
advertise thses changes in more details!


Mohammad

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Re: [tw5] Re: Tiddlywiki and html5 + CSS3

Thank you for update!
So, TW is keen to use the latest features of web technology! That's great

How much do you encourage to use html +css features in tiddlers? For example


[img[pic1]][img[pic2]][img[pic3]]
common caption text here


 and similar?

And the next question how frequently TW core is updated to cover new 
features in the html5 + css3?

Mohammad

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[tw5] Re: Sorting Search Results

Actually, I was worried about the various macro variable substitutions that 
would be needed if not used as a macro. But I see that you've made all 
those changes, so it's all good.

-- Mark

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wrote:
>
> Mark,
>
> I lifted the code from (and based the set up on) the 
> https://www.ooktech.xyz:8443/Public#JustSearch tiddler. 
>
> I only intend to use this search bar in this single case. If you'll 
> forgive my ignorance, could you explain why not using the code as a macro 
> worries you? 
>
> In other news, yes, removing the tag has gotten the left sidebar search 
> bar back to normal.
>
> Thank you.
>

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[tw5] Re: Is it possible to display a local HTML file within a tiddler?

Mark,

You can embed even a text file. Its just a way of making external content 
available.

I am not sure if its loaded at wiki load or only when the tiddler is rendered 
but I assume the latter.

I am still exploring a fuller use of html because as long as it does not need 
JavaScript the browser responds as it would any other html delivered on any 
website.

Regards
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[tw5] Re: Sorting Search Results

2018-11-20 Thread michaelharrison619

Mark,

I lifted the code from (and based the set up on) the 
https://www.ooktech.xyz:8443/Public#JustSearch tiddler. 

I only intend to use this search bar in this single case. If you'll forgive 
my ignorance, could you explain why not using the code as a macro worries 
you? 

In other news, yes, removing the tag has gotten the left sidebar search bar 
back to normal.

Thank you.

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[tw5] new save-selection command in the prerelease...

2018-11-20 Thread Jan


Hello Devgroup
Thanks for the save selection command furnished in the prerelease!!!
I just tried it out using it for a new EditToolbarButton:

<$action-sendmessage
$message="tm-edit-text-operation"
$param="save-selection"
title="$:/Temp/newlink"
/>

It should create a tiddler with the text of the text of the selectrion. 
SO far it doesn't. (The Tiddler is created but it is empty) wWhat am I 
doing wrong.


Yours Jan

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[tw5] Re: Is it possible to display a local HTML file within a tiddler?

I suppose I should know this, but what is the difference between iframe and 
embed ?

Is your suggestion for pulling libraries into TW? Otherwise I'm not sure 
why you would do that.

Thanks!
-- Mark

On Tuesday, November 20, 2018 at 2:29:58 PM UTC-8, TonyM wrote:
>
> This also works
>
>   
>
> and 
>
> In a tiddler tagged $:/tags/RawMarkup you can include more
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, November 21, 2018 at 9:03:33 AM UTC+11, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> Assuming that you're talking about a local file TW, you can use iframe:
>>
>> 
>>
>> This is the most universal way of saving documents that I've found. PDF's 
>> and other formats will often break on various platforms. I kind of liked 
>> MHT, and even MAFF, but they don't appear to have survived the great FF 57 
>> Fiasco.
>>
>> You can add comment structures to your tiddler with keywords relating to 
>> the web page (e.g.  ) so that the 
>> tiddler will show up when you do a search.
>>
>> -- Mark
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 20, 2018 at 1:38:54 PM UTC-8, Zachary Storer wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I want to archive some blog articles and reference them from within my 
>>> TiddlyWiki.
>>> Is there a way to display a locally saved HTML file, and its 
>>> corresponding images,
>>> within a Tiddler? I want to embed a locally saved webpage within a 
>>> Tiddler versus
>>> linking into an external browser. I am also using Tiddly Desktop.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> -
>>>
>>> Zak
>>>
>>>

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[tw5] Re: Sorting Search Results

The code you're showing worries me a bit, because it isn't a macro. 
Hopefully you were just doing a quick paste?

The tiddler that you cloned and renamed, needs to have the 
$:/tags/SearchResults 
tag removed. That should make the sidebar work OK.

Hopefully that will do it. If not, it might be time to scratch this 
approach.

Good luck

-- Mark


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wrote:
>
> Mark,
>
> So I took your suggestion and lifted the code from the macro into my own 
> TiddlyWiki, and ended up with this:
>
> 
>
>
> <$set name="searchTiddler" value="$:/temp/searchjournal">
> 
> <$edit-text tiddler="$:/temp/searchjournal" type="search" tag="input" 
> focus={{$:/config/Search/AutoFocus}} focusPopup=< "$:/state/popup/search-dropdown">> class="tc-popup-handle"/>
> <$reveal state="$:/temp/searchjournal" type="nomatch" text="">
> <$button tooltip={{$:/language/Buttons/AdvancedSearch/Hint}} 
> aria-label={{$:/language/Buttons/AdvancedSearch/Caption}} 
> class="tc-btn-invisible">
> <$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/temp/advancedsearch" 
> text={{$:/temp/searchjournal}}/>
> <$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/temp/searchjournal" text=""/>
> <$action-navigate $to="$:/AdvancedSearch"/>
> {{$:/core/images/advanced-search-button}}
> 
> <$button class="tc-btn-invisible">
> <$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/temp/searchjournal" text="" />
> {{$:/core/images/close-button}}
> 
> <$button popup=<> 
> class="tc-btn-invisible">
> {{$:/core/images/down-arrow}}
> <$list 
> filter="[{$:/temp/searchjournal}minlength{$:/config/Search/MinLength}limit[1]]"
>  
> variable="listItem">
> <$set name="resultCount" value="""<$count 
> filter="[!is[system]search{$(searchTiddler)$}]"/>""">
> {{$:/language/Search/Matches}}
> 
> 
> 
> 
> <$reveal state="$:/temp/searchjournal" type="match" text="">
> <$button to="$:/AdvancedSearch" 
> tooltip={{$:/language/Buttons/AdvancedSearch/Hint}} 
> aria-label={{$:/language/Buttons/AdvancedSearch/Caption}} 
> class="tc-btn-invisible">
> {{$:/core/images/advanced-search-button}}
> 
> 
> 
>
>
> <$reveal tag="div" class="tc-block-dropdown-wrapper" 
> state="$:/temp/searchjournal" type="nomatch" text="">
>
>
> <$reveal tag="div" class="tc-block-dropdown tc-search-drop-down 
> tc-popup-handle" state=<> 
> type="nomatch" text="" default="">
>
>
> <$list 
> filter="[{$:/temp/searchjournal}minlength{$:/config/Search/MinLength}limit[1]]"
>  
> emptyMessage="""
> {{$:/language/Search/Search/TooShort}}""" variable="listItem">
>
>
> {{$:/core/ui/DefaultSearchResultListDate}}
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
> As you can see, I named my clone of the results 
> list $:/core/ui/DefaultSearchResultListDate.
>
> I now have a search bar that sorts its results by date created.
>
> *But...*
>
> Now when I type a term into the original search bar on the right, the 
> results are shown with two tabs at the top. Both are named "List". The 
> first tab sorts the results by title, as they have always been. When I 
> click on the second List tab, the results are sorted by date created. 
>
> Did I enable sortable search results the moment I created the tiddler 
> $:/core/ui/DefaultSearchResultListDate?
>
> Thank you.
>

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[tw5] Re: Is it possible to display a local HTML file within a tiddler?

This also works

  

and 

In a tiddler tagged $:/tags/RawMarkup you can include more

Regards
Tony





On Wednesday, November 21, 2018 at 9:03:33 AM UTC+11, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Assuming that you're talking about a local file TW, you can use iframe:
>
> 
>
> This is the most universal way of saving documents that I've found. PDF's 
> and other formats will often break on various platforms. I kind of liked 
> MHT, and even MAFF, but they don't appear to have survived the great FF 57 
> Fiasco.
>
> You can add comment structures to your tiddler with keywords relating to 
> the web page (e.g.  ) so that the 
> tiddler will show up when you do a search.
>
> -- Mark
>
> On Tuesday, November 20, 2018 at 1:38:54 PM UTC-8, Zachary Storer wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I want to archive some blog articles and reference them from within my 
>> TiddlyWiki.
>> Is there a way to display a locally saved HTML file, and its 
>> corresponding images,
>> within a Tiddler? I want to embed a locally saved webpage within a 
>> Tiddler versus
>> linking into an external browser. I am also using Tiddly Desktop.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> -
>>
>> Zak
>>
>>

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Re: [tw5] Semi-offtopic: Client for Google Groups?

Bimlas,

Attached is what I see, especially since you gave the above reply. 

I am not sure what is missing when you say "because the threads are not 
clearly displayed (it is not clear which message belongs to the thread), "

To me members of the thread is anything with the same "email subject", they 
all occur in time and flow down the page and under the messaged they 
replied to? Already read items are collapsed so you only see the first, 
unread (or stared items) open.

To me the Google Groups forum view leaves little to be desired. If you take 
account of what Josiah Said "replies may occur different places in 
threading" I personally don't see the need to jump to an alternate tool. I 
am happy to try and help you and everyone make the best use of the Google 
Groups.

Regards
Tony

On Tuesday, November 20, 2018 at 10:43:09 PM UTC+11, bimlas wrote:
>
> TonyM, this is how the desktop version looks like for me:
>
> https://i.imgur.com/awBo1l4.png
>
> The threads are not completely clear to me: it does not quite indicate 
> which message is linked to another, this is why I like to use external mail 
> list client.
>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: KeeBoord Plugin - Testers needed 8-) !

2018-11-20 Thread Jan

Hi Simon, Hi Jeremy!
Great job...and what a great update!
I will use this instantly on my wikis

Jan

Am 20.11.2018 um 13:24 schrieb Jeremy Ruston:
On 20 Nov 2018, at 12:13, BurningTreeC > wrote:

You'll be able to access the prerelease page with your firefox the
next time the prerelease page is updated (don't know when this will be)

I’ve just triggered a build at 12:24 GMT, you should see the new build
in the next 10 to 15 minutes,

Best wishes

Jeremy
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[tw5] Re: Is it possible to display a local HTML file within a tiddler?

Assuming that you're talking about a local file TW, you can use iframe:

This is the most universal way of saving documents that I've found. PDF's 
and other formats will often break on various platforms. I kind of liked 
MHT, and even MAFF, but they don't appear to have survived the great FF 57 
Fiasco.

You can add comment structures to your tiddler with keywords relating to 
the web page (e.g.  ) so that the 
tiddler will show up when you do a search.

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On Tuesday, November 20, 2018 at 1:38:54 PM UTC-8, Zachary Storer wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I want to archive some blog articles and reference them from within my 
> TiddlyWiki.
> Is there a way to display a locally saved HTML file, and its corresponding 
> images,
> within a Tiddler? I want to embed a locally saved webpage within a Tiddler 
> versus
> linking into an external browser. I am also using Tiddly Desktop.
>
> Thanks,
>
> -
>
> Zak
>
>

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Re: [tw5] ANN: ftlist plugin - capture and organize quick notes

Brian,

Thanks very much for sharing this with the community. I can see you have 
put effort into the documentation and explaining it.

It has taken me a little effort to grasp the value of this and I think it 
is great. Perhaps you could describe one or more ways we would use it in 
your documentation, not the mechanical steps but the general approach.

I see great value in using it to rapidly create items, it would interest me 
if I could provide a template tiddler from which to create the new tiddlers 
in addition to the tagging ftlist does for us.

Great work
Tony

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[tw5] Is it possible to display a local HTML file within a tiddler?

2018-11-20 Thread Zachary Storer

Hello,

I want to archive some blog articles and reference them from within my 
TiddlyWiki.
Is there a way to display a locally saved HTML file, and its corresponding 
images,
within a Tiddler? I want to embed a locally saved webpage within a Tiddler 
versus
linking into an external browser. I am also using Tiddly Desktop.

Thanks,

-

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[tw5] Re: Sorting Search Results

2018-11-20 Thread michaelharrison619

Mark,

So I took your suggestion and lifted the code from the macro into my own 
TiddlyWiki, and ended up with this:




<$set name="searchTiddler" value="$:/temp/searchjournal">

<$edit-text tiddler="$:/temp/searchjournal" type="search" tag="input" 
focus={{$:/config/Search/AutoFocus}} focusPopup=<> class="tc-popup-handle"/>
<$reveal state="$:/temp/searchjournal" type="nomatch" text="">
<$button tooltip={{$:/language/Buttons/AdvancedSearch/Hint}} 
aria-label={{$:/language/Buttons/AdvancedSearch/Caption}} 
class="tc-btn-invisible">
<$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/temp/advancedsearch" 
text={{$:/temp/searchjournal}}/>
<$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/temp/searchjournal" text=""/>
<$action-navigate $to="$:/AdvancedSearch"/>
{{$:/core/images/advanced-search-button}}

<$button class="tc-btn-invisible">
<$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/temp/searchjournal" text="" />
{{$:/core/images/close-button}}

<$button popup=<> 
class="tc-btn-invisible">
{{$:/core/images/down-arrow}}
<$list 
filter="[{$:/temp/searchjournal}minlength{$:/config/Search/MinLength}limit[1]]" 
variable="listItem">
<$set name="resultCount" value="""<$count 
filter="[!is[system]search{$(searchTiddler)$}]"/>""">
{{$:/language/Search/Matches}}




<$reveal state="$:/temp/searchjournal" type="match" text="">
<$button to="$:/AdvancedSearch" 
tooltip={{$:/language/Buttons/AdvancedSearch/Hint}} 
aria-label={{$:/language/Buttons/AdvancedSearch/Caption}} 
class="tc-btn-invisible">
{{$:/core/images/advanced-search-button}}





<$reveal tag="div" class="tc-block-dropdown-wrapper" 
state="$:/temp/searchjournal" type="nomatch" text="">


<$reveal tag="div" class="tc-block-dropdown tc-search-drop-down 
tc-popup-handle" state=<> 
type="nomatch" text="" default="">


<$list 
filter="[{$:/temp/searchjournal}minlength{$:/config/Search/MinLength}limit[1]]" 
emptyMessage="""
{{$:/language/Search/Search/TooShort}}""" variable="listItem">


{{$:/core/ui/DefaultSearchResultListDate}}
















As you can see, I named my clone of the results 
list $:/core/ui/DefaultSearchResultListDate.

I now have a search bar that sorts its results by date created.

*But...*

Now when I type a term into the original search bar on the right, the 
results are shown with two tabs at the top. Both are named "List". The 
first tab sorts the results by title, as they have always been. When I 
click on the second List tab, the results are sorted by date created. 

Did I enable sortable search results the moment I created the tiddler 
$:/core/ui/DefaultSearchResultListDate?

Thank you.

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[tw5] Re: Show parent-, grandparent-, grandgrandparenttiddler via template

2018-11-20 Thread Magnus

Thank you! That worked perfectly! :)

Den måndag 19 november 2018 kl. 00:06:42 UTC+1 skrev TonyM:
>
> Magnus,
>
> The following will get the value of the parent field in the current 
> tiddler and then inside the List widget the parent will become the current 
> tiddler
>
> <$list filter="[all[current]get[parent]]">
>
> 
>
> and this will list the parent
>
> Simply embedding the same again inside will get the parent of the parent 
> (Grand Parent)
>
> <$list filter="[all[current]get[parent]]">
> <$list filter="[all[current]get[parent]]">
>
> 
> 
>
> Note the blank line in an empty list widget returns the value
>
> So the grate grand parent is found as 
> <$list filter="[all[current]get[parent]]">
> <$list filter="[all[current]get[parent]]">
> <$list filter="[all[current]get[parent]]">
>
> 
> 
> 
>
> However with the use of the variable we can make it more readable, but 
> rather than make use of the currentTiddler, we need to state it in the 
> filter
>
> <$list filter="[all[current]get[parent]]" variable=parent>
> <$list filter="[get[parent]]" variable=grand-parent>
> <$list filter="[get[parent]]" variable=great-grand-parent>
>
> 
> 
> 
>
> But now we can make use of the ability to name the values
>
> <$list filter="[all[current]get[parent]]" variable=parent>
> <$list filter="[get[parent]]" variable=grand-parent>
> <$list filter="[get[parent]]" variable=great-grand-parent>
> The current Tiddler is <>, its parent is <>, its 
> grand-parent is <> its great-grand-parent is <
> >
> 
> 
> 
>
> Let me know if you can find your way from here, their are so many 
> different routes you could take?
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Sunday, November 18, 2018 at 3:17:34 PM UTC+11, Magnus wrote:
>>
>> Yes, please elaborate on the get operator. How can I use it to get the 
>> parent field? I think it is the Marios tocp plugin I use, sounds familiar.
>>
>> Den söndag 18 november 2018 kl. 00:40:16 UTC+1 skrev TonyM:
>>>
>>> Magnus,
>>>
>>> Marios tocp plugin will help you do this. So will bimlas's new kin 
>>> operator (5.1.8 prerelease)
>>>
>>> However you can do it manualy using the get[fieldname] in a list to get 
>>> the parents tiddlername name and reference its fields.
>>>
>>> Do you want more info?
>>>
>>> Tony
>>>
>>>

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Re: [tw5] ANN: ftlist plugin - capture and organize quick notes

Dear Bilbo Theado

That looks very interesting TW leverage for gaming! :-)

Best wishes
Josiah

On Tuesday, 20 November 2018 16:15:20 UTC+1, Brian Theado wrote:
>
> The `ftlist` plugin provides a way to quickly create `f`ragments of 
> `t`ext and manage them as items in a `list`. The emphasis is on 
> providing a low-friction way to capture thoughts and ideas. 
>
> The list items are stored as tiddler titles and can be used just like 
> any other TiddlyWiki tiddlers. 
>
> In addition to some minimal list operations, ftlist provides a 
> `tagbar` for easily applying tags to the list items via drag and drop. 
> New tags can be added to the `tagbar` via drag and drop and then list 
> items (any tiddly links) can be dropped onto these tags in order to 
> apply them. 
>
> If you want a way to quickly create new tiddlers and optionally 
> organize them later, then you might find this plugin useful. 
>
> https://btheado.github.io/tw-ftlist/ - demo 
> https://github.com/btheado/tw-ftlist - source code 
>
> Brian 
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[tw5] Re: Sorting Search Results

You could try hacking Jed's $:/macros/Forums/SearchBar code. Looks pretty 
easy.

First find $:/core/ui/DefaultSearchResultList and clone it, perhaps as 
$:/core/ui/DefaultSearchResultList2. Make your sort changes to it.

Then open up $:/macros/Forums/SearchBar from Jed's code, scroll to the 
bottom where you see the transclusion:

{{$:/core/ui/SearchResults}}

and replace it with

{{$:/core/ui/DefaultSearchResultList2}}

This worked in my quick test. Although it's a bit of a cheat because it 
ignores a step from the original core which I think was meant to make 
search engines selectable -- but in this case you're making your own engine 
selection.

Good luck
-- Mark

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wrote:
>
> Funnily enough, I found a thread this morning for creating search bars: TW5: 
> just a <> search box 
> .
>
> I have taken the code and added it to my TiddlyWiki, and by changing 
> "$:/temp/search" to "$:/temp/searchjournal", the search bar is now separate 
> from the main search bar on the right. 
>
> Now my question becomes, having created another search bar: is there a way 
> I might be able to create a new or modified 
> "$:/core/ui/DefaultSearchResultList" specifically for 
> "$:/temp/searchjournal"?
>
> Thank you.
>

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[tw5] Re: Reading tiddler fields in JavaScript

2018-11-20 Thread KRM

Thanks, that does the trick! Appreciate the fast response.

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[tw5] Re: Publication Quality Contents Using Tiddlywiki

Mohammad, a comment on this ...

On Tuesday, 20 November 2018 14:54:06 UTC+1, Mohammad wrote:e

> Still there is a problem, the philosophy behind tiddlers is to have them 
> to store the smallest meaningful chunk of data! So, I am not sure if TW can 
> be used effectively for creating scholarly articles or even writing a novel 
> in a series!
>

... this idea does come up a lot but in a way its a misunderstanding. 
That is easily demonstrated by asking yourself "Well what is the RELEVANT  
size of a component Tiddler for my PURPOSE?" In fact TW as easily allows 
and supports large Tiddlers. 

So whilst "fragment" (I.e. as a "part") could be Tiny, it could also be 
Huge. It depends on the purpose. 
In narrative and academic writing it more likely your main units with be of 
considerable length.

Best wishes
Josiah

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Re: [tw5] Publication Quality Contents Using Tiddlywiki

Mohammad

I looked at that article. Its interesting and relevant in terms of aims.I 
think that in TW we can meet those aims eventually. 

But I think its also good to think through the different aspects of 
academic *Publishing AND Writing* needs as they could work in TW. 

The two, writing & publishing, are quite strongly related. 
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/tiddlywiki/B0VGpW27MC4/jTsvc1F6BAAJ

That thread on "Placeholders" had a number of interesting ideas and some 
prototype code for handing 
the situation of the scholar, or fiction, writer whose main aim is smoother 
production of texts.

I have held off writing more about it--basically because I can't code--so 
before I ask for help I need get really clear what exactly I'm asking for.

But the "placeholder" seems a very good fit for being able to better 
develop emergent academic documents. 
At the back of my mind is ability not just to create footnotes etc but also 
have more than one type 
(for instance "notes" for expanding meanings; "citations" for bibliographic 
materials; and links to a "glossary" for definitions--all dynamically 
changeable). 

I think that approach fits better with actual writing practice.

Just letting you know
Best, Josiah

On Tuesday, 20 November 2018 15:19:16 UTC+1, Mohammad wrote:
>
>
> Research Articles in Simplified HTML: a Web-first format for HTML-based 
> scholarly articles
> https://peerj.com/articles/cs-132/#supplemental-information 
>

>

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[tw5] ANN: ftlist plugin - capture and organize quick notes

2018-11-20 Thread Brian Theado

The `ftlist` plugin provides a way to quickly create `f`ragments of
`t`ext and manage them as items in a `list`. The emphasis is on
providing a low-friction way to capture thoughts and ideas.

The list items are stored as tiddler titles and can be used just like
any other TiddlyWiki tiddlers.

In addition to some minimal list operations, ftlist provides a
`tagbar` for easily applying tags to the list items via drag and drop.
New tags can be added to the `tagbar` via drag and drop and then list
items (any tiddly links) can be dropped onto these tags in order to
apply them.

If you want a way to quickly create new tiddlers and optionally
organize them later, then you might find this plugin useful.

https://btheado.github.io/tw-ftlist/ - demo
https://github.com/btheado/tw-ftlist - source code

Brian

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Re: [tw5] Publication Quality Contents Using Tiddlywiki

Josiah,
 Yes, you are right, at first we can go with manual and simple citation! A 
dictionary or a bibtex tiddler can store the references and a plugin can be 
used to cite!

I would also like to share this article! It is related to our discussion

Research Articles in Simplified HTML: a Web-first format for HTML-based 
scholarly articles
https://peerj.com/articles/cs-132/#supplemental-information


Mohammad

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Re: [tw5] Publication Quality Contents Using Tiddlywiki

Mohammad

I had quick look at the Mendeley citation and citation style manger. The 
part of it concerned with citation style (inline indicators) and 
endnote/footnotes (the full references) does look doable in TW. I think the 
issue would be whether you independently, one by one, support a citation 
style or go for something that can manage and switch between multiple 
types. Having ability to switch styles would be neat but a lot more 
complicated. In this case its not just CSS you'd have to cope but also with 
developing a generalisable "meta" data-structure.

Best
Josiah

The footnot plugin is good for start but we need to be able for scientific 
> citation and be able to use Mendely (
> https://www.mendeley.com/?interaction_required=true) or similar from web. 
> It seems we can also do this using some plugins
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Re: [tw5] Re: Tiddlywiki and html5 + CSS3

The name "TiddlyWiki 5” was chosen to reflect the fact that TiddlyWiki is based 
on HTML 5, while TiddlyWiki Classic predated the availability of HTML 5.

The core uses a bunch of HTML 5 and CSS 3 features, such as:

* ECMAScript 5
* data attributes
* drag and drop
* The download attribute for links
* CSS shadows, transforms etc.
* Flexbox
etc.

Best wishes

Jeremy.


> On 20 Nov 2018, at 14:07, Mohammad  wrote:
> 
> I know we can use simply the html5 + css3 in our tiddlers! Thank you TW!
> But I wish to know how much is used in official release?
> 
> Mohammad
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[tw5] Re: Tiddlywiki and html5 + CSS3

I know we can use simply the html5 + css3 in our tiddlers! Thank you TW!
But I wish to know how much is used in official release?

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[tw5] Tiddlywiki and html5 + CSS3

html5 and css3 have brought many new features, my question is how 
effectively TW uses these capabilities?

How much html5+css3 is included in official version tiddlywiki (a.k. 
empty.html)?


Mohammad

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[tw5] Re: Publication Quality Contents Using Tiddlywiki

Josiah,
 Thank you for your great comments!

I raised this question to draw attention to TW potential for preparing high 
quality contents (I myself am interested in scholarly and journal quality 
contents).
I worked for several months to prepare some codes for creating contents 
using tiddlers in some logical order, able to close and reopen them as a 
story (as article, booklet, tutorial,...), number them as pages, print them 
in order, and so on...

It seems CSS3 is quite powerful and lets us to customize tiddlers easily!
The very powerful class field in TW 5.1.18 (I found it there) let us create 
pages in custom size, margins, font, etc...

Still there is a problem, the philosophy behind tiddlers is to have them to 
store the smallest meaningful chunk of data! So, I am not sure if TW can be 
used effectively for creating scholarly articles or even writing a novel in 
a series!


What I like in TW is, it let me to explore the power of html5 +CSS3. It 
lets me for quick prototyping and I could not find a rival tool to do that!

I hope people, specially developers and super users here in this group 
create and develop tools to let us use TW in this area.

Cheers
Mohammad

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Re: [tw5] Re: KeeBoord Plugin - Testers needed 8-) !

Thank you *Jeremy*! It works for me!


*Simon,*
 The error reported in the previous post 
(https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/htO5KckxEfw/4z0MU9yVAAAJ) has 
gone!
It seems the new prerelease works fine! By the way, let me to do more tests 
and I will update you here with my results


Best
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Re: [tw5] Publication Quality Contents Using Tiddlywiki

Dear all,
 Many thanks for your comments and ideas!

   1. I understood we can set the paper size and margin using css. I tested 
   this using conditional css 
   (https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/#Custom%20Styles%20FAQ)
   2. For printing into high quality pdf or printers, the print-river 
   plugin seems to work but it needs to be improved
   3. The footnot plugin is good for start but we need to be able for 
   scientific citation and be able to use Mendely 
   (https://www.mendeley.com/?interaction_required=true) or similar from web. 
   It seems we can also do this using some plugins
   4. For math, we can use the Katex plugin! It works greats


Special thanks to Josiah for discussing this in depth!

I believe, TW has enough potential to replace MS words and similar for 
small scale contents like booklets, articles (I mean scholarly)

Cheers
Mohammad

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[tw5] Re: Sorting Search Results

2018-11-20 Thread michaelharrison619

Funnily enough, I found a thread this morning for creating search bars: TW5: 
just a <> search box 
.

I have taken the code and added it to my TiddlyWiki, and by changing 
"$:/temp/search" to "$:/temp/searchjournal", the search bar is now separate 
from the main search bar on the right. 

Now my question becomes, having created another search bar: is there a way 
I might be able to create a new or modified 
"$:/core/ui/DefaultSearchResultList" specifically for 
"$:/temp/searchjournal"?

Thank you.

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Re: [tw5] Publication Quality Contents Using Tiddlywiki

Hi Alex

> On 20 Nov 2018, at 12:49, Alex Hough  wrote:
> 
> 
> it must be a lot easier now --with new CSS rotate and all that

Surprisingly, CSS Transforms appeared in 2008, first on Safari, and then other 
browsers over the following 2 years.

Best wishes

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Re: [tw5] Publication Quality Contents Using Tiddlywiki

2018-11-20 Thread Alex Hough

i remember that!

it must be a lot easier now --with new CSS rotate and all that




Alex

On Tue, 20 Nov 2018 at 12:37, Jeremy Ruston  wrote:

> The waybackmachine to the rescue:
>
> https://web.archive.org/web/20100225222805/http://tiddlypocketbook.com:80/
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
> On 20 Nov 2018, at 12:25, Jeremy Ruston  wrote:
>
>
> On 20 Nov 2018, at 12:14, Alex Hough  wrote:
>
>
> any thoughts on how to make a muti-page booklet?
>
>
> It’s not quite what you want, but I’ve always loved the venerable
> TiddlyPocketBook:
>
> https://blog.whatfettle.com/2010/09/15/tiddlypocketbook/
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
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Re: [tw5] Publication Quality Contents Using Tiddlywiki

The waybackmachine to the rescue:

https://web.archive.org/web/20100225222805/http://tiddlypocketbook.com:80/ 


Best wishes

Jeremy

> On 20 Nov 2018, at 12:25, Jeremy Ruston  wrote:
> 
> 
>> On 20 Nov 2018, at 12:14, Alex Hough > > wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> any thoughts on how to make a muti-page booklet?
> 
> It’s not quite what you want, but I’ve always loved the venerable 
> TiddlyPocketBook:
> 
> https://blog.whatfettle.com/2010/09/15/tiddlypocketbook/ 
> 
> 
> Best wishes
> 
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Re: [tw5] Publication Quality Contents Using Tiddlywiki

2018-11-20 Thread Ste Wilson

Alas it seems to have vanished with tiddlyspace... 

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> On 20 Nov 2018, at 12:14, Alex Hough  wrote:
> 
> 
> any thoughts on how to make a muti-page booklet?

It’s not quite what you want, but I’ve always loved the venerable 
TiddlyPocketBook:

https://blog.whatfettle.com/2010/09/15/tiddlypocketbook/ 


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Re: [tw5] Re: KeeBoord Plugin - Testers needed 8-) !

On 20 Nov 2018, at 12:13, BurningTreeC  wrote:
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> You'll be able to access the prerelease page with your firefox the next time 
> the prerelease page is updated (don't know when this will be)

I’ve just triggered a build at 12:24 GMT, you should see the new build in the 
next 10 to 15 minutes,

Best wishes

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[tw5] Re: Semi-offtopic: Client for Google Groups?

It might be worth experimenting with "news readers". I believe Thunderbird 
has one built in? Different newsreaders have different approaches to 
threading. I might be worth experimenting to see if one helps you locate 
relevant sub-threads more easily.

The newsfeeds for TW as listed here: 
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!aboutgroup/tiddlywiki

Best wishes
Josiah

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> I would like to use Google Groups in an external client because the 
> threads are not clearly displayed (it is not clear which message belongs to 
> the thread), but I can not set Thuderbird because I can not add the Google 
> Groups mailing lists to it.
>
> Does anyone use external software for the "forum"? If so, could you give 
> me a description of the program setup so I can access the Tiddly group 
> through it?
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[tw5] Re: Reading tiddler fields in JavaScript

2018-11-20 Thread Jed Carty

You almost have it, the function is getFieldString, not getFieldValue. If 
you replace the function name in your example it should work as expected.

If you want some more in-depth information, here it is:

A tiddler is just a special type of javascript object. The object returned 
by this.wiki.getTiddler(tiddlerTitle) is in the from:

{fields: {
  title: tiddlerTitle,
  text: some text,
  tags: tag
  },
 cache: {}
}


So to get the field values you use something like this:

var tiddler = this.wiki.getTiddler(tiddlerName)
var fieldValue = tiddler.fields.fieldname

where you replace fieldName with the actual name of the field. To fit with 
javascript syntax you may need to reference field names like this 
tiddler.fields['field-name'] when there is a - or a . in the field name.

The getFieldString function has some extra steps so an empty string is 
returned in the case of missing fields or invalid field values, and it uses 
the build-in stringifying functions for fields like the tags field.

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Re: [tw5] Publication Quality Contents Using Tiddlywiki

2018-11-20 Thread Alex Hough

I was thinking about the same, only making a print magazine

Its about matching the tiddler size to the paper size, in my case each page
would be A5

any thoughts on how to make a muti-page booklet?

Alex

On Mon, 19 Nov 2018 at 15:05, Jan  wrote:

> Hi Mohammad,
> for me the biggest problem in using TW for scientific publications was
> footnotes. Thomas Elminger helped me with a plugin to solve this:
> http://slidesnstories.tiddlyspot.com/#About%20Footnotes.
> There you also find my variant of Alberto Molinas ScholarTabs which is
> called MetaTabs and the storysaver Plugin which allows to save sets of
> tiddlers and reload the to the story.
>
> Cheers Jan
>
> Am 19.11.2018 um 10:17 schrieb Mohammad:
>
> Is it possible to configure tiddlers for preparing high quality contents
> and print to pdf?
> This because I want to see if there is any experience to use Tiddlywiki
> like Ms Word or Latex
> for preparing publication quality contents?
>
> Any idea / sharing experiences / resources are appreciated!
>
> In my opinion we need some tools, some are already ready as plugin for
> Tiddlywiki!
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>
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Re: [tw5] Re: KeeBoord Plugin - Testers needed 8-) !

2018-11-20 Thread BurningTreeC


>
> Hallo Simon,
> I am Home again and tried again: The  prerelease crashes also without 
> permalink. (red alert and then the beautifull new splash freezes.)
> My FF-version is 38.0.5 ... I kept it because compatibility is important 
> for my usage.
>
> I hope this helps to fix it...
> Jan
>
>
Thanks for your help, Jan! We found the problem and it's fixed upstream. 
You'll be able to access the prerelease page with your firefox the next 
time the prerelease page is updated (don't know when this will be)

all the best, BTC

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Re: [tw5] Semi-offtopic: Client for Google Groups?

One simple reason why you won't get exact threading is that when folk reply 
they don't necessarily reply in strict thread order.

For instance, I quite often reply to the starting post even though I am 
also responding to sub-threads.

This happens because the way we respond here can't be always be neat. Its 
more like you have a broad topic and replies may occur different places in 
threading.

Best wishes
Josiah

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> The threads are not completely clear to me: it does not quite indicate 
> which message is linked to another, this is why I like to use external mail 
> list client.
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Re: [tw5] Semi-offtopic: Client for Google Groups?

2018-11-20 Thread bimlas

TonyM, this is how the desktop version looks like for me:

https://i.imgur.com/awBo1l4.png

The threads are not completely clear to me: it does not quite indicate 
which message is linked to another, this is why I like to use external mail 
list client.
>
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Re: [tw5] Semi-offtopic: Client for Google Groups?

Bimlas

I can see email as threads, are you not using the views at this address

https://groups.google.com/forum/m/?hl=en#!forum/tiddlywiki

Have a look through the settings. No luck let me know.

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Re: [tw5] Semi-offtopic: Client for Google Groups?

2018-11-20 Thread bimlas

Thanks Jeremy,

Maybe it's not perfect (cannot read older threads), but it's worth a try. :)

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Re: [tw5] How to do plugin translations

Hi Ilya

> I am completely lost with plugin translations.

The core doesn’t currently support translations for plugins, I’m afraid. That 
doesn’t stop you making a plugin that has multiple translations, but it means 
that you have to roll your own, including building an equivalent of the `lingo` 
macro.

> Therefore I need to find another way to achieve my goal (bundle plugin with 
> multiple translations). I think I should rely on the value returned by 
> `$:/language/`, but I don't know how to write a macro which would concatenate 
> the result returned by `$:/language/` with path to namespace of the plugin. I 
> thought to store translation tiddlers under either:
> - `$:/language/ru_RU/plugins/plugin_vendor/plugin_name/Note.multids`
> - `$:/plugins/plugin_vendor/plugin_name/languages/ru-RU/Note.multids`

Here’s one approach:

<$set name="myLingoBase" value={{{ 
[[$:/plugins/plugin_vendor/plugin_name/]addsuffix{$:/language}]  }}}>

Translated, wikified string: <$transclude tiddler={{{ 
[addsuffix[/MyTranslatedString]] }}}/>

Alternatively, without wikification: <$text text={{{ 
[addsuffix[/MyTranslatedString]get[text]] }}}/>



Here we construct a variable “myLingoBase” that will end up containing a string 
such as "$:/plugins/plugin_vendor/plugin_name/$:/languages/en-GB”. Then when we 
want to access a particular translatable string we just concatenate the final 
portion of the tiddler name and transclude it.

Best wishes

Jeremy


> 
> Macro is a simple text substitution so it doesn't get the value of 
> `$:/language/`. Do I need:
> - a nested transclusion syntax
> - use of macrocall
> - use set or vars widget
> 
> Best regards,
> iilyak
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