[tw5] Re: Problems with upgrading from 5.1.18 to 5.1.20

2019-08-10 Thread Birthe C
Hi Pauline,

I upgraded using Firefox with no problem. You must save using the "Save 
upgraded TiddlyWiki file" link. After upgrading your wiki, close 
https://tiddlywiki.com/upgrade.html.

Drag your wiki to a tab in the browser.
Older $:/core should be blocked, you wouldn't want that, after all you are 
upgrading ;-)
Same thing happens if you have overwritten any of the core tiddlers, you 
will get a warning.


Better luck next time,

Birthe

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[tw5] Problems with upgrading from 5.1.18 to 5.1.20

2019-08-10 Thread Pauline

  
  
Hiya,
I'm trying to upgrade my standalone tiddlywiki to 5.1.20
using:
https://tiddlywiki.com/upgrade.html
The downloaded file also contains the upgrade wizard which I am
  not able to close. I have tried upgrading in Chrome & Firefox
  with the same results. I have tried Save As & well as just
  clicking the "Save upgraded TiddlyWiki file" link. In all cases I
  wind up with an unwanted Upgrade Wizard as part of my tiddlywiki.

I am upgrading from 5.1.18. 

Also $:/core isn't checked in the upgrade list. The note says: "Blocked plugin (due to incoming 5.1.18
being older than existing 5.1.20)"
Is there a problem with the upgrade
wizard? Or am I doing something stupid?

  
Many thanks,
P
  

  

  


  




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[tw5] Page media and Tiddlers

2019-08-10 Thread TonyM
In relation to View and Print tiddlers with page handling - help requested 


I am looking at using the @page media in css. However being a css ignorant 
I am trying to work out how to use it

Specifically I want it to relate to content inside a tiddler. However most 
of the code out there relates to a whole html page.

Perhaps I need to wrap the text in a tiddler with a div that somehow 
specifies it is both display and print media, and to use the print css when 
printing.

I am particularly interested in defining a tiddler that uses 
the https://www.w3.org/TR/css-page-3/#margin-boxes margin boxes documented 
here, when printing but it would be nice to see the content on screen as 
well, a Kind of wisywig. 

I am building a view template that applies a style sheet that defines the 
@print media statement but I am hoping to transclude fields on the current 
tidder that contain either the content only or also some css to each 
"element", so I have a field called element-name and element-name-css in a 
tiddler.

@top-left-corner 
@top-left 
@top-center
@top-right 
@top-right-corner 
@bottom-left-corner 
@bottom-left 
@bottom-center 
@bottom-right 
@bottom-right-corner
@left-top
@left-middle
@left-bottom
@right-top
@right-middle
@right-bottom

After defining the whole page I want the body of the tiddler transcluded in 
the body of the page.

I am really at a loss how to do this. Especially when it comes to referring 
only to the current tiddler and not accidently the whole tiddlet wiki. To 
print I open the tiddler in new window and print from there.

Once this is working I will also transclude a field defining what html 
elements to use to throw a page break eg h1

Thanks in Advance
Tony



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[tw5] Re: Using TiddlyWiki in multiple tabs?

2019-08-10 Thread TonyM
See BJ's story Top tabs. You can keep the tabs inside Tiddlywiki this way.

http://bjtools.tiddlyspot.com/

Rehards
Tony

On Sunday, August 11, 2019 at 8:24:16 AM UTC+10, TonyM wrote:
>
> Bob is your only option then. The Bob exe install is very easy. I would 
> say bob is multi-access.
>
> I have a large and sophisticated to do projects and reference wiki that I 
> use everyday. I like using a 3 screen setup but my key wiki only needs one 
> window. Perhaps there are design decisions you have made that are making 
> additional tabs more desirable. One feature you may like tabs within 
> tiddlywiki for open tiddlers. I will look for that plugin.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>

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[tw5] Re: How can I get <$reveal> like functionality based on tags or the composite of fields

2019-08-10 Thread Joshua Baller
Thank you, both of you. I was too focused on the Reveal widget and missed 
how powerful List could be under these circumstances. 

Mark, both of those examples worked perfectly. I had toyed with the filters 
but had missed how to enforce that I only look at tags on the current 
Tiddler.

Josh 

On Saturday, August 10, 2019 at 5:53:26 PM UTC-5, Joshua Baller wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I have a knowledge base of sorts that I have built into a tiddlywiki. 
> Thousands of tiddlers are being specified in a set of google sheets (each 
> row is a tiddler). The CSVs are converted to JSON and imported, populating 
> tags, fields and the text field. The text field is just: <$transclude 
> tiddler="template_a"/>, the rest of the csv is defining tags or fields. The 
> transcluded template then renders the fields based on the template using a 
> lot of $view and $set calls. Frequently tiddlers may not have certain 
> fields defined, as a result I am using $reveal calls to include or exclude 
> parts of the template (mainly <$reveal type="nomatch" state="!!eff_cs" 
> text=""> like calls)
>
> In all, this is working pretty well. However, I have two particular 
> situations that I have not been able to figure out.
>
> 1. I want to reveal a part of the template based on if the tidder doing 
> the transclusion has a particular tag. e.g. IF my_reveal_tag 
> EXISTS_IN_TIDDLER then REVEAL some_text_in_template.
>
> Right now I have been making a tag for a trait in order to enable easy 
> indexing, and seperately making a field with the same information for 
> controlling the template. It would be easier to only define the information 
> in one place.
>
> 2. There are also some instances where I want a section of the template to 
> be revealed except when some set of fields are all blank. I tried to use a 
> macro to concatenate the fields and check if the results was an empty 
> string but I couldn't seem to get it to work. e.g. REVEAL 
> some_text_in_template IF field_a != "" OR field_b != "" OR field_c != ""
>
>
> Any recommendations would be appreciated
>

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[tw5] Re: How can I get <$reveal> like functionality based on tags or the composite of fields

2019-08-10 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Sometimes it's easier to use the list widget for this kind of thing. Here's 
your two situations, if I understood them correctly:

<$list filter="[all[current]!has[big]!has[medium]!has[tiny]]">
ALL CLEAR


(where big, medium, and tiny are fields)

<$list filter="[all[current]tag[my_reveal_tag]]">
TAG IS REVEALED


(where my_reveal_tag is the selecting tag)
On Saturday, August 10, 2019 at 3:53:26 PM UTC-7, Joshua Baller wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I have a knowledge base of sorts that I have built into a tiddlywiki. 
> Thousands of tiddlers are being specified in a set of google sheets (each 
> row is a tiddler). The CSVs are converted to JSON and imported, populating 
> tags, fields and the text field. The text field is just: <$transclude 
> tiddler="template_a"/>, the rest of the csv is defining tags or fields. The 
> transcluded template then renders the fields based on the template using a 
> lot of $view and $set calls. Frequently tiddlers may not have certain 
> fields defined, as a result I am using $reveal calls to include or exclude 
> parts of the template (mainly <$reveal type="nomatch" state="!!eff_cs" 
> text=""> like calls)
>
> In all, this is working pretty well. However, I have two particular 
> situations that I have not been able to figure out.
>
> 1. I want to reveal a part of the template based on if the tidder doing 
> the transclusion has a particular tag. e.g. IF my_reveal_tag 
> EXISTS_IN_TIDDLER then REVEAL some_text_in_template.
>
> Right now I have been making a tag for a trait in order to enable easy 
> indexing, and seperately making a field with the same information for 
> controlling the template. It would be easier to only define the information 
> in one place.
>
> 2. There are also some instances where I want a section of the template to 
> be revealed except when some set of fields are all blank. I tried to use a 
> macro to concatenate the fields and check if the results was an empty 
> string but I couldn't seem to get it to work. e.g. REVEAL 
> some_text_in_template IF field_a != "" OR field_b != "" OR field_c != ""
>
>
> Any recommendations would be appreciated
>

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[tw5] How can I get <$reveal> like functionality based on tags or the composite of fields

2019-08-10 Thread TonyM
Joshua

This can all be done with the list widget because it only shows its content If 
the filter is true. You can also use limit[1] to stop multiple display.

So with this all you need is to obtain the correct filters.

But there is more.

Regards
Tony

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[tw5] How can I get <$reveal> like functionality based on tags or the composite of fields

2019-08-10 Thread Joshua Baller
Hi,
I have a knowledge base of sorts that I have built into a tiddlywiki. 
Thousands of tiddlers are being specified in a set of google sheets (each 
row is a tiddler). The CSVs are converted to JSON and imported, populating 
tags, fields and the text field. The text field is just: <$transclude 
tiddler="template_a"/>, the rest of the csv is defining tags or fields. The 
transcluded template then renders the fields based on the template using a 
lot of $view and $set calls. Frequently tiddlers may not have certain 
fields defined, as a result I am using $reveal calls to include or exclude 
parts of the template (mainly <$reveal type="nomatch" state="!!eff_cs" 
text=""> like calls)

In all, this is working pretty well. However, I have two particular 
situations that I have not been able to figure out.

1. I want to reveal a part of the template based on if the tidder doing the 
transclusion has a particular tag. e.g. IF my_reveal_tag EXISTS_IN_TIDDLER 
then REVEAL some_text_in_template.

Right now I have been making a tag for a trait in order to enable easy 
indexing, and seperately making a field with the same information for 
controlling the template. It would be easier to only define the information 
in one place.

2. There are also some instances where I want a section of the template to 
be revealed except when some set of fields are all blank. I tried to use a 
macro to concatenate the fields and check if the results was an empty 
string but I couldn't seem to get it to work. e.g. REVEAL 
some_text_in_template IF field_a != "" OR field_b != "" OR field_c != ""


Any recommendations would be appreciated

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[tw5] Re: Using TiddlyWiki in multiple tabs?

2019-08-10 Thread TonyM
Bob is your only option then. The Bob exe install is very easy. I would say bob 
is multi-access.

I have a large and sophisticated to do projects and reference wiki that I use 
everyday. I like using a 3 screen setup but my key wiki only needs one window. 
Perhaps there are design decisions you have made that are making additional 
tabs more desirable. One feature you may like tabs within tiddlywiki for open 
tiddlers. I will look for that plugin.

Regards
Tony

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[tw5] Re: Announcing the release of TiddlyWiki v5.1.20

2019-08-10 Thread Damon Pritchett
Ok - after I posted the message, I tried uninstalling the uni-link plugin 
and then doing the upgrade. That fixed the problem. I had tried disabling 
and/or uninstalling the plugin after the upgrade, but neither fixed the 
issue. As a test, I upgraded my TW with uni-link again to see if it 
repeated and it did. There's something about the uni-link plugin that seems 
to be causing this.

Damon

On Saturday, August 10, 2019 at 1:08:20 PM UTC-7, Damon Pritchett wrote:
>
> I tried upgrading this morning and have had an interesting issue. All of 
> my internal links are repeating the text if there isn't an alias given with 
> the link. For example, if I have a link to an internal tiddler like this:
>
> [[Internal Tiddler Link]]
>
> then the output looks like this:
>
> Internal Tiddler Link*Internal Tiddler Link*
>
> with the underlined part being the link. The link itself works just fine. 
> If the link has an alias then it all works fine. By alias, I mean like this:
>
> [[Other Tiddler|Internal Tiddler Link]].
>
> This shows as expected like this:
>
> *Other Tiddler*
>
> Nothing else changed in my TW. Only the upgrade.
>
> Any thoughts on what might be causing this?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Damon
>
> On Friday, August 9, 2019 at 7:57:44 AM UTC-7, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>
>> I’m delighted to announce the release of TiddlyWiki v5.1.20:
>>
>> https://tiddlywiki.com/
>>
>> This release is massive. Some of the many highlights:
>>
>> * New conditional filter operators “then” and “else”
>> * New mathematics and string filter operators
>> * Improved handling of duplicates in filters
>> * Improved keyboard shortcuts
>> * New saver for saving the single file version direct to GitHub or GitLab
>> * New BrowserStorage plugin for saving tiddlers in browser local storage
>> * New InnerWiki plugin for rendering TiddlyWiki screenshots
>> * New and improved translations for Catalan, Chinese Simplified and 
>> Chinese Traditional, French, German, US English
>> * Several new performance optimisations
>> * New palettes and a new palette manager for more easily editing them
>> * New and fixed animations for several system actions
>> * Improved handling of JSON files
>> * New mechanism to add plugins to a wiki from the command line
>> * New “savewikifolder” and “deletetiddlers" commands for Node.js
>> * Many bug fixes
>>
>> You can upgrade your existing single file wikis at: 
>> https://tiddlywiki.com/upgrade.html
>>
>> As usual, please exercise caution when working with an upgrade, and take 
>> care to take plenty of backups. Comments and questions welcome.
>>
>> It only remains to offer my sincere thanks to the many people who gave up 
>> their time and talents to contribute to this release.
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy
>>
>

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[tw5] TiddlyWiki node command line issue importing and/or rendering for offline

2019-08-10 Thread Cade Roux
I am importing a JSON array of 10 Tiddlers with title and text properties 
only.

After running the command below, I have a tiddlywiki.info file in the 
folder, an output folder with an empty index.html file and no sign of the 
tiddlers.

This is what the JSON file looks like:

[
{
"title" : "SCHEMA Config"
,"text" : "Module:\nDescription:"
}
,{
"title" : "SCHEMA DataMart"
,"text" : "Module:\nDescription:"
}
,{
"title" : "SCHEMA db_securityadmin"
,"text" : "Module:\nDescription:"
}
,{
"title" : "SCHEMA dbo"
,"text" : "Module:\nDescription:"
}
,{
"title" : "SCHEMA Doc"
,"text" : "Module:\nDescription:"
}
,{
"title" : "SCHEMA ETL"
,"text" : "Module:\nDescription:"
}
,{
"title" : "SCHEMA Logging"
,"text" : "Module: LOG\nDescription: Logging schema"
}
,{
"title" : "AscendDataMart SCHEMA Modeling"
,"text" : "Module:\nDescription:"
}
,{
"title" : "AscendDataMart SCHEMA Notify"
,"text" : "Module:\nDescription:"
}
,{
"title" : "AscendDataMart SCHEMA TEST"
,"text" : "Module:\nDescription:"
}
]


>tiddlywiki ./DataDictionary --verbose --init empty
Boot log:
  Startup task: load-modules
  Startup task: info after: load-modules before: startup
  Startup task: startup after: load-modules
  Startup task: story after: startup
  Startup task: commands platforms: node after: story
Executing command: init empty
Copied edition 'empty' to ./DataDictionary

>tiddlywiki ./DataDictionary --verbose --import tiddlers.json 
application/json
Boot log:
  Startup task: load-modules
  Startup task: info after: load-modules before: startup
  Startup task: startup after: load-modules
  Startup task: story after: startup
  Startup task: commands platforms: node after: story
Executing command: import tiddlers.json application/json
10 tiddler(s) imported

>tiddlywiki ./DataDictionary --verbose --rendertiddler 
$:/plugins/tiddlywiki/tiddlyweb/save/offline index.html text/plain
Boot log:
  Startup task: load-modules
  Startup task: info after: load-modules before: startup
  Startup task: startup after: load-modules
  Startup task: story after: startup
  Startup task: commands platforms: node after: story
Executing command: rendertiddler 
$:/plugins/tiddlywiki/tiddlyweb/save/offline index.html text/plain

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[tw5] Re: Announcing the release of TiddlyWiki v5.1.20

2019-08-10 Thread Damon Pritchett
I tried upgrading this morning and have had an interesting issue. All of my 
internal links are repeating the text if there isn't an alias given with 
the link. For example, if I have a link to an internal tiddler like this:

[[Internal Tiddler Link]]

then the output looks like this:

Internal Tiddler Link*Internal Tiddler Link*

with the underlined part being the link. The link itself works just fine. 
If the link has an alias then it all works fine. By alias, I mean like this:

[[Other Tiddler|Internal Tiddler Link]].

Nothing else changed in my TW. Only the upgrade.

Any thoughts on what might be causing this?

Thanks,

Damon

On Friday, August 9, 2019 at 7:57:44 AM UTC-7, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> I’m delighted to announce the release of TiddlyWiki v5.1.20:
>
> https://tiddlywiki.com/
>
> This release is massive. Some of the many highlights:
>
> * New conditional filter operators “then” and “else”
> * New mathematics and string filter operators
> * Improved handling of duplicates in filters
> * Improved keyboard shortcuts
> * New saver for saving the single file version direct to GitHub or GitLab
> * New BrowserStorage plugin for saving tiddlers in browser local storage
> * New InnerWiki plugin for rendering TiddlyWiki screenshots
> * New and improved translations for Catalan, Chinese Simplified and 
> Chinese Traditional, French, German, US English
> * Several new performance optimisations
> * New palettes and a new palette manager for more easily editing them
> * New and fixed animations for several system actions
> * Improved handling of JSON files
> * New mechanism to add plugins to a wiki from the command line
> * New “savewikifolder” and “deletetiddlers" commands for Node.js
> * Many bug fixes
>
> You can upgrade your existing single file wikis at: 
> https://tiddlywiki.com/upgrade.html
>
> As usual, please exercise caution when working with an upgrade, and take 
> care to take plenty of backups. Comments and questions welcome.
>
> It only remains to offer my sincere thanks to the many people who gave up 
> their time and talents to contribute to this release.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>

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[tw5] Re: Polly (2) -- Downloads as HUB

2019-08-10 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Hi Josiah,

As much as I hate the idea of breaking it, I should mention, especially in 
the 
context of USB testing, that you might want to try some larger files to 
give a more
realistic experience.

Hence also the random thoughts about robocopy, which is supposedly more
robust than standard copy, but actually I don't know if it's more robust 
than
the copy function built into PS.

Thanks!

On Saturday, August 10, 2019 at 10:22:49 AM UTC-7, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:

> Mark
>
> I tried to break it but failed.
>
> I haven't tried all the combinations possible but did mix absolute and 
> relative addressing in variety of ways.
>
> It worked fine from a USB stick with addressing to wiki on stick relative, 
> and addressing to downloads & backups on C: absolute. 
>
> In other words its "portable".
>
> The USB situation is one where using %env-vars% could save manual setting 
> of address for downloads?
>
> TT
>
> Mark S. wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Here's a version using relative dirs.You can go to the github and select 
>>> the "relative-dirs" version or just use:
>>>
>>> https://github.com/Marxsal/polly/tree/relative-dirs
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Polly (2) -- Downloads as HUB

2019-08-10 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Updated master and developer branches.

The USB situation is one where using %env-vars% could save manual setting 
> of address for downloads?
>

Yes, if the default ini used %userprofile%/downloads then that should 
automatically work for most people.

Thanks!


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[tw5] TiddlyWiki as filemanager meta repository

2019-08-10 Thread Cd.K
I have always opened many directories in Windows Explorer, XYplorer, 
xplorer and/or Nomad.NET. In general, I don't like the handling any more 
and I want to change to a similar way of working as I used to with 
TiddlyWiki and browsers.  

I often follow several topics at the same time and therefore group my 
search results which also results in documentation of my searches at the 
same time.  

For this, I use the add-on "Export Tabs URLs", which I have configured so 
that it creates a ready-made link for TiddlyWiki with title and reference 
in the clipboard. I create corresponding tiddlers for each topic and/or 
subject area and fill them with the links. 

If necessary, I can then call up the Internet pages again from the 
corresponding tiddlers. 

Conclusion: 
I manage my bookmarks browser independently with TiddlyWiki. 


Now I want to manage access to the Windows file system in a similar way. 

 For this, I lack a function that a directory path is passed to any file 
manager from the Tiddler and this file manager then opens the requested 
directory. 

I imagine that the Link Widget is extended by a format of the type "dir://" 
and therefore knows that a file manager has to be started.

Is there anything like this already or how could it be implemented? 

I can if necessary program in C++, Node JavaScript, C# and I know about 
Node edge, but I don't know much about HTML, CSS and TiddlyWiki 
plugins.  

I use TiddlyWiki with the Firefox Add-on "File Backups" on windows 10.  

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[tw5] TW5 as filemanager meta repository

2019-08-10 Thread Cd.K
I have always opened many directories in Windows Explorer, XYplorer, 
xplorer and/or Nomad.NET. In general, I don't like the handling any more 
and I want to change to a similar way of working as I used to with 
TiddlyWiki and browsers.  

I often follow several topics at the same time and therefore group my 
search results which also results in documentation of my searches at the 
same time.  

For this, I use the add-on "Export Tabs URLs", which I have configured so 
that it creates a ready-made link for TiddlyWiki with title and reference 
in the clipboard. I create corresponding tiddlers for each topic and/or 
subject area and fill them with the links. 

If necessary, I can then call up the Internet pages again from the 
corresponding tiddlers. 

Conclusion: 
I manage my bookmarks  browser independently with TiddlyWiki. 


Now I want to manage access to the Windows file system in a similar way. 

 For this, I lack a function that a directory path is passed to any file 
manager from the Tiddler and this file manager then opens the requested 
directory. 

I imagine that the Link Widget is extended by a format of the type "dir://" 
and therefore knows that a file manager has to be started.

Is there anything like this already or how could it be implemented? 

I can if necessary program in C++, Node JavaScript, C# and I know about 
Node edge, but I don't know much about HTML, CSS and TiddlyWiki 
plugins.  

I use TiddlyWiki with the Firefox Add-on "File Backups" on windows 10.  

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[tw5] This thread can be deleted!

2019-08-10 Thread Cd.K
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[tw5] Re: A simple navigation macro - viewTemplate

2019-08-10 Thread Cd.K
I'll try that. 

I was looking for a way to undo the navigation from one tiddler to the next 
via a tiddler link. 


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[tw5] Re: Polly (2) -- Downloads as HUB

2019-08-10 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Mark

I tried to break it but failed.

I haven't tried all the combinations possible but did mix absolute and 
relative addressing in variety of ways.

It worked fine from a USB stick with addressing to wiki on stick relative, 
and addressing to downloads & backups on C: absolute. 

In other words its "portable".

The USB situation is one where using %env-vars% could save manual setting 
of address for downloads?

TT

Mark S. wrote:
>>
>>
>> Here's a version using relative dirs.You can go to the github and select 
>> the "relative-dirs" version or just use:
>>
>> https://github.com/Marxsal/polly/tree/relative-dirs
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki as a target for generated help documentation

2019-08-10 Thread Cade Roux
I have started to look at the command-line available in node, and it seems 
like once I have all my pages in a single appropriate json file, then what 
I could do for my prototype is simply all a single line somewhere near the 
end of my build script:

tiddlywiki ./DataDictionary --init empty --import allmydata.json 
--rendertiddler $:/plugins/tiddlywiki/tiddlyweb/save/offline index.html 
text/plain

Then I have it all in a single file I can send someone to play with.  And 
that looks like a good start.

Thanks,

Cade

On Saturday, August 10, 2019 at 12:22:13 AM UTC-5, TonyM wrote:
>
> Cade,
>
> Others have used tiddlywiki to consolidate documentation in the past. 
> Using csv or JSON has the most tools and features available in 3rd party 
> plugins. Import and export, so these may be good standards around to build 
> data interchange.
>
> I can't grasp the whole of your requirements but much of it touches on 
> things I have done or researched. Do consider opening threads here in the 
> forum with a specific or subset of things you are trying to do do so people 
> do not need to understand your whole project to help.  It is easier for 
> people to volunteer for issues rather than projects, although it is great 
> you have outlined the bigger picture here.
>
> How you are going to access and host your wiki can have an influence here. 
> The node version also publishes every tiddler as a separate "static" html 
> page, and you can export any tiddler as static html even from a single file 
> wiki. Crafting of additional templates like those to export static html 
> pages could be used to export html pages to build a standard html site, 
> however as Mat suggested it would be in your interest to keep as much as 
> practical in one tiddlywiki because of the control and global handling you 
> can do.
>
> Perhaps in the recent 5.1.20 release post you can see my comments on the 
> Innerwiki Plugin, not that I am sure this will help with your project. With 
> tiddlywiki the sky was the limit now I think it is the stars.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>  
>
> On Saturday, August 10, 2019 at 7:54:24 AM UTC+10, Cade Roux wrote:
>>
>> Yeah, I have a large amount of metadata that is changing, and the source 
>> of that data is either going to be:
>>
>> 1. Originating in the metadata of the SQL tables (attached to the tables 
>> and columns) - kind of basic data dictionary things which will look like:
>>
>> > />
>>
>> Where we would want to generate a page for every one of these 
>> automatically from the source code (mostly manually edited) during the 
>> build.  There might be also editable narratives to go with them.
>>
>> 2. It is going to be in rules that original in Excel (manually edited), 
>> go through XML and then become data in mapping tables.
>>
>> These are kind of similar, but have much more data about the source data 
>> that matches the rule and the output data, plus the edited narratives are 
>> more likely to include screenshots and longer explanations.
>> > />
>>
>>
>> 3. Other things:  Perhaps pages of build results like any warnings, 
>> exceptions or errors in the rulesets in the current build process that we 
>> detected from #2.  Technically we already get these as logs or tables, but 
>> makes sense to include them in the set of pages if we have an HTML 
>> framework to put them in now.
>>
>> It's unlikely I want to put TiddlyWiki on the front end of this process 
>> because I do need to check in structural changes like new tables, columns, 
>> views and procedures with their metadata all together.  Plus I don't think 
>> generating all my SQL from TiddlyWiki pages makes a lot of sense.  Plus, I 
>> would need to transition writing the rules from a spreadsheet to TiddlyWiki 
>> Tables - and we do occasionally use Excel macros to make these more 
>> functional for data input and validation.
>>
>> There are two obvious approaches:  One is to generate the page framework 
>> from all the data we have and incorporate manually edited data somehow - 
>> like another manually edited source.  The other is to have manual set of 
>> pages which can embed automatically generated content as some kind of 
>> widgets or plugins of the form > Category='CategoryName' DataElement='DataElementName' /> or whatever
>>
>> There currently isn't any web-based application built that is hitting 
>> this data warehouse.  If I had that I could make some kind of service to 
>> serve up the metadata and plug it into manual pages as a widget or plugin.  
>> I could also just build an app that lets you navigate the metadata and 
>> allows annotation and stores it somewhere and displays it all to the user.  
>> But I didn't really want to build an app yet until we've explored the gaps 
>> in the data and the features people will need.
>>
>> I could just going to generate a bunch of HTML pages with links.  But I 
>> would have to style them, have some framework, navigation, etc.  Again, not 
>> ready to build all that just yet - just 

[tw5] Re: Polly (2) -- Downloads as HUB

2019-08-10 Thread Mohammad
Hi Josiah,
 I think robocopy is not a powershell command!

--Mohammad

On Saturday, August 10, 2019 at 7:19:29 PM UTC+4:30, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Hi Mohammad,
>
> That's some very nice work you got there! I've bookmarked it for my PS 
> resource collection.
>
> At some point we should consider using robocopy as you did. My concern is 
> whether the PS 6
> core version will support it on non-Windows platforms.
>
> Thanks!
>
> On Friday, August 9, 2019 at 12:10:37 PM UTC-7, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Hi Josiah and Mark,
>>  The below is an in progress repo using powershell for creating and 
>> restoring TW on node.js with version control on a local machine/network.
>>
>> It has a wiki (Tiddlywiki) file supports Powershell syntax highlighting 
>> and may be useful for Polly documentation.
>>
>> https://kookma.github.io/Powershell_Script/
>>
>> Source: https://github.com/kookma/Powershell_Script
>>
>> Cheers
>> Mohammad
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Polly (2) -- Downloads as HUB

2019-08-10 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Hi Mohammad,

That's some very nice work you got there! I've bookmarked it for my PS 
resource collection.

At some point we should consider using robocopy as you did. My concern is 
whether the PS 6
core version will support it on non-Windows platforms.

Thanks!

On Friday, August 9, 2019 at 12:10:37 PM UTC-7, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Hi Josiah and Mark,
>  The below is an in progress repo using powershell for creating and 
> restoring TW on node.js with version control on a local machine/network.
>
> It has a wiki (Tiddlywiki) file supports Powershell syntax highlighting 
> and may be useful for Polly documentation.
>
> https://kookma.github.io/Powershell_Script/
>
> Source: https://github.com/kookma/Powershell_Script
>
> Cheers
> Mohammad
>

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[tw5] Re: Using TiddlyWiki in multiple tabs?

2019-08-10 Thread Klaus
I'll have to check, if Bob also works, if the files are synchronized in a 
Dropbox. "Multi-User" definitely works for multiple tabs though.

On Saturday, August 10, 2019 at 1:23:28 PM UTC+2, Mat wrote:
>
> Klaus, as Mark notes - Bob  is 
> probably your answer.
>
> This thread made me realize something:
>
> If I use Bob, I would probably also be able to use TiddlyClip! A 
> limitation with TiddlyClip is that you cannot clip to multiple wikis *that 
> are in different windows*. That missing feature in TC has totally 
> prevented me from using it.
>
> <:-)
>

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[tw5] Re: Using TiddlyWiki in multiple tabs?

2019-08-10 Thread Klaus
It doesn't really help; Windows are a mess compared to tabs, so I quite 
explicitly DON'T want to open them in new windows for task-management 
purposes.

On Saturday, August 10, 2019 at 3:52:18 PM UTC+2, TonyM wrote:
>
> Klaus
>
> You are aware if you open tiddlers in new window with the button provided 
> on tiddlers they still are in the parent wiki? For example open a table of 
> contents tiddler and you can remote control the tiddlers in the story of 
> the patent wiki.
>
> With a little imagination the tiddlers you open could do almost anything.
>
> Tony
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Using TiddlyWiki in multiple tabs?

2019-08-10 Thread TonyM
Klaus

You are aware if you open tiddlers in new window with the button provided on 
tiddlers they still are in the parent wiki? For example open a table of 
contents tiddler and you can remote control the tiddlers in the story of the 
patent wiki.

With a little imagination the tiddlers you open could do almost anything.

Tony

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[tw5] Re: Competition for v5.1.21 artwork

2019-08-10 Thread TonyM
Thomas

Just export it as png in addition to svg?

;)

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[tw5] Re: Using TiddlyWiki in multiple tabs?

2019-08-10 Thread Mat
Klaus, as Mark notes - Bob  is probably 
your answer.

This thread made me realize something:

If I use Bob, I would probably also be able to use TiddlyClip! A limitation 
with TiddlyClip is that you cannot clip to multiple wikis *that are in 
different windows*. That missing feature in TC has totally prevented me 
from using it.

<:-)

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[tw5] Re: Using TiddlyWiki in multiple tabs?

2019-08-10 Thread Klaus
Workflow mostly. As I work I open tabs, and then work my way through them. 
With multiple tiddly-wiki tabs, I would be able to integrate tiddlywiki in 
the overall workflow better.

Anther example would be having a tasklist tiddler as a pinned tab in 
Chrome, while using separate tabs for actually doing the work, especially 
when frequent context switches are needed.

On Friday, August 9, 2019 at 5:05:33 PM UTC+2, Mark S. wrote:
>
> I'm curious, what is your use case that requires you to have the same TW 
> open in multiple tabs? I'm always trying to reduce the number of open tabs.
>
> I believe Bob  is  aware when changes 
> occur. 
>
> Good luck!
>
> On Friday, August 9, 2019 at 7:57:12 AM UTC-7, Klaus wrote:
>>
>> As I understand, at least the single-file use of TiddlyWiki isn't safe to 
>> use in multiple tabs, as each tab will not learn of changes saved in 
>> another; Saving from multiple tabs may thus result in lost changes.
>>
>> A similar problem seems to appear still when using the NodeJS server, 
>> albeit to a lesser degree; While the changes don't get lost, tiddlers in 
>> tabs others than the one that made the change, were not updated.
>>
>> Is there any set-up that allows to safely use TiddlyWiki across multiple 
>> browser-tabs or devices without the risk of losing changes?
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Competition for v5.1.21 artwork

2019-08-10 Thread Thomas Elmiger
Hi Jeremy,

Firstly: Congrats for releasing 5.1.20!

Great idea with the contest, I have one question about the coditions: SVG 
is not allowed?

* The image must be a PNG or JPEG of exactly 560x315 pixels
>

Cheers,
Thomas

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[tw5] Re: View and Print tiddlers with page handling - help requested

2019-08-10 Thread TonyM
Folks,

I am just bumping this thread. I will be working tomorrow on this, in 14+ 
Hours. 

*I have one tiddlywiki specific question arising.*
We can use style="width: 100%;" to display content across the full width of 
a tiddler. But as you know tiddlers can be an indefinite length. I imagine 
if we wanted to limit this length by using scrollable sections we may want  
to set a vertical size of some sort. Of course 100% is not relevant but has 
anyone given some thought to what would be an appropriate way to determine 
a suitable height of a tiddler in which the content was scrollable?.

*My research so far on print*
A lot of people suggest tables are not appropriate in page handling but all 
my data is already in tables. CSS and or w3.css seems to have all I need to 
do this but I need to have a broad understanding before I can use it to 
retrofit lengthless tiddlywiki tables. Although I do prefer to construct my 
tables with html. It also looks like its easy to generate a footer at the 
bottom of the page and decide which content can or can not break across 
pages.

The below basic example works on tiddlywiki.com

I want to have a number of tables, print on a number of pages and with 
reoccuring heading for each page the same table appears on.

So It seems I need the following

   - The various sections that define each page, perhaps with a first and 
   subsequent pages, and possibly odd and even pages (Left and Right)
   - Then a way to define tables within the page that overflow to the next 
   page with internal heading and footers.

I am trying to find a basic code snipit I can use to do this but only find 
part of it in any given place. *So If anyone has a good reference please 
share.*

Example

@page {
size: A4 landscape;
}
table { page-break-inside:auto }
div   { page-break-inside:avoid; } /* This is the key */
thead { display:table-header-group }
tfoot { display:table-footer-group }






heading




<$transclude tiddler="A Gentle Guide to TiddlyWiki" 
mode="block"/>


<$transclude tiddler="Some of the things you can do 
with TiddlyWiki"  mode="block"/>


<$transclude tiddler="A Gentle Guide to TiddlyWiki" 
mode="block"/>


<$transclude tiddler="Some of the things you can do 
with TiddlyWiki"  mode="block"/>


<$transclude tiddler="A Gentle Guide to TiddlyWiki" 
mode="block"/>


<$transclude tiddler="Some of the things you can do 
with TiddlyWiki"  mode="block"/>


<$transclude tiddler="A Gentle Guide to TiddlyWiki" 
mode="block"/>


<$transclude tiddler="Some of the things you can do 
with TiddlyWiki"  mode="block"/>


<$transclude tiddler="A Gentle Guide to TiddlyWiki" 
mode="block"/>


<$transclude tiddler="Some of the things you can do 
with TiddlyWiki"  mode="block"/>


<$transclude tiddler="A Gentle Guide to TiddlyWiki" 
mode="block"/>


<$transclude tiddler="Some of the things you can do 
with TiddlyWiki"  mode="block"/>


<$transclude tiddler="A Gentle Guide to TiddlyWiki" 
mode="block"/>


<$transclude tiddler="Some of the things you can do 
with TiddlyWiki"  mode="block"/>


<$transclude tiddler="A Gentle Guide to TiddlyWiki" 
mode="block"/>


<$transclude tiddler="Some of the things you can do 
with TiddlyWiki"  mode="block"/>


<$transclude tiddler="A Gentle Guide to TiddlyWiki" 
mode="block"/>


<$transclude tiddler="Some of the things you can do 
with TiddlyWiki"  mode="block"/>



x



notes






Regards
Tony


On Friday, August 2, 2019 at 10:54:42 PM UTC+10, TonyM wrote:
>
> Eveyone
>
> This sounds great because I think tiddlywiki would be ideal for both use 
> as a smart document but also a document generator from web sites to pages 
> and to print. Making it seemless would be nice.
>
> I have a real world case I am working on so I can establish the key 
> requirements. I think the most important is to handle the page layouts and 
> the transition to print. The same is true for in browser lists and 
> tiddlywiki is good at lists. We need to take control of the bottom of our 
> lists which are prone to running long on the screen when keeping them in a 
> tiddler, and one visible screen with scroll is often better.
>
> An interesting observation I made recently for those who understand 
> document management systems is tiddly wiki smart documents could operate as 
> independant documents that have the document management system, 

[tw5] Re: Polly (2) -- Downloads as HUB

2019-08-10 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
Ciao Mark

So far so good. In test system with relative pathing for everything it 
worked fine.

I'll test it from an USB with (absolute) downloads on other drive later.

TT

On Friday, 9 August 2019 22:17:20 UTC+2, Mark S. wrote:
>
>
>
> Here's a version using relative dirs.You can go to the github and select 
> the "relative-dirs" version or just use:
>
> https://github.com/Marxsal/polly/tree/relative-dirs
>
> The main "polly.ps1" file is the only one affected so far, so you can just 
> download that into your polly directory 
> if you're not maintaining your ownlocal git repository.
>
> What this does is basically "sanitize" all the directory and wiki file 
> names from the ini file, turning relative addresses
> into absolute for internal working. Then in the main restore loop, rather 
> than cd'ing into the downloads directory,
> the download path is appended to the copy target.
>
> After some feedback, I can merge the changes into the master.
>
> Thanks!
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Create a list of tiddler titles using filters and a hierarchy of tags

2019-08-10 Thread AndrewMc
Hi Tony

Thank you for response. I had not thought of using the TOC macros and have 
been trying them out to see what they do.
Also, thank you very much for the code. I am slowly working through it, 
figuring out what it is doing, and experimenting to see what happens when I 
make changes.

Cheers
Andrew Mc


On Friday, August 9, 2019 at 12:36:17 AM UTC+12, TonyM wrote:
>
> Andrew,
>
> All of this is possible, but a full answer will take time. You may want to 
> consider the existing TOC macros to see if you can leverage them. However I 
> expect if you built your own TOC macro you would get more control. I need 
> to get to bed so can't answer in full now.
>
> However I am developing some guides and this may be interesting as a 
> start, it demonstrates recursion that makes a TOC work to an unlimited 
> number of levels, but you could write one just to process your known number 
> of levels and treat each level differently. One macr call the chapter, the 
> next the sections the next the paragraphs.
>
> RecursionLike a toc macro, recursion drills down into a heirachical 
> structureA sophisticated combination of iteration and selectionThis 
> example uses the same filter for each level, it processes all "tagging[]" 
> the current tiddler then moves on to the next tiddler in the previous list.
>
> \define each-other-level(filter)
> Start level $filter$ <$link to=<> ><$text 
> text=<>/>
> <$list filter="$filter$">
><>
> 
> End level for "<$text text=<>/>"
> \end
> \define first-level(filter)
> Start all
> <$list filter="$filter$">
><>
> 
> End all
> \end
>
> Start in TableOfContents
> <$tiddler tiddler="TableOfContents">
>
> <>
>
> 
>
> Or the unfinished
>
> Structured levels *not finished Incomplete and untested*Process a fixed 
> and limited set of levels in a heirachieA combination of iteration and 
> selectionEach town within state within countrySee recursion for an 
> indefinite tree
>
> \define all-countries()
> Start all countries
> <$list filter="[tag[country]]" variable=country>
><$macrocall $name=country country-name=<> />
> 
> Start all countries
> 
> \end
>
> \define country{country-name}
> Start $country-name$
> <$set name=country value="$country-name$">
> 
> <$list filter="[tag[state]country]" variable=state
><$macrocall $name=state country-name=<> state=<>/>
> 
> End $country-name$
> 
> \end
>
> \define state{state}
> Start $state$
> <$set name=state value="$state$">
> 
> <$list filter="[#tag[country]]" variable=state
><$macrocall $name=town state=<>/>
> 
> End $country-name$
> 
> \end
>
> \define town(town}
> Start $town$
> <$set name=state value="$town$">
> 
> <$list filter="[tag[country]]" variable=state
><$macrocall $name=state state=<>/>
> 
> End $town$
> 
> \end
> <>
>
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Thursday, August 8, 2019 at 4:49:55 PM UTC+10, AndrewMc wrote:
>>
>> Hi All
>>
>> While I have been using TW for some years (mainly TWc) my usage of TW5 is 
>> rather basic and I am having difficulty with what I think is a filter 
>> problem.
>> I have some book text arranged in tiddlers, tagged with the chapter 
>> number, section number, and paragraph number of the text.
>>
>> For example, all text from Chapter 7 is tagged with [C07]. 
>> The first Section of the chapter is a tiddler named [C07S01], containing 
>> just the section title, and is tagged with [C07] and [S01].
>> This section may contain several paragraphs.
>> The first Paragraph is a tiddler named [C07S01P01], and is tagged with 
>> [C07], [S01] and [P01].
>> The second paragraph is a tiddler named [C07S01P02], and is tagged with 
>> [C07], [S01] and [P02].
>>
>> The second section in chapter 7 is [C07S02] (tagged with [C07] and [S02]).
>> and this has paragraphs [C07S02P01] and [C07S02P02] etc.
>>
>> I am wanting to create a list of the tiddlers that make up this chapter.
>> I have created a [Chapter 7] tiddler containing the list-links macro:
>> <>
>>
>> This is a good start, and gets me the equivalent of:
>> * [[C07S01]]
>> * [[C07S01P01]]
>> * [[C07S01P02]]
>> * [[C07S02]]
>> * [[C07S02P01]]
>> * [[C07S02P02]]
>>
>> However, I am wondering if there is a way to get the following:
>> {{C07S01}}
>> * [[C07S01P01]]
>> * [[C07S01P02]]
>> {{C07S02}}
>> * [[C07S02P01]]
>> * [[C07S02P02]]
>>
>> That is, I would like to know if there is a way that I can transclude all 
>> of the Section tiddlers of a chapter, in numerical order, each followed by 
>> a list of the paragraphs within each section. Is this a task for a macro?
>>
>> For a start, I am struggling to create a filter to obtain just the 
>> section tiddlers. I want to get only those tiddlers tagged with a chapter 
>> tag [C07] and with a tag beginning with [S], and  without a tag beginning 
>> with [P]. Is it possible to do this? Or, should I just add some more tags, 
>> [Section] for each section tiddler, and [Paragraph] for each paragraph 
>> tiddler?
>>
>> Any suggestions and ideas appreciated.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Andrew Mc
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Polly (2) -- Downloads as HUB

2019-08-10 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
 Mohammad wrote:
>
>  The below is an in progress repo using powershell for creating and 
> restoring TW on node.js with version control on a local machine/network.
>
> It has a wiki (Tiddlywiki) file supports Powershell syntax highlighting 
> and may be useful for Polly documentation.
>
> https://kookma.github.io/Powershell_Script/
>
> Source: https://github.com/kookma/Powershell_Script
>

Very interesting! Thanks.

TT 

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[tw5] Re: Polly (2) -- Downloads as HUB

2019-08-10 Thread @TiddlyTweeter
One solution, especially for pathing, is to add to the settings process 
path entry adding.

i.e. you enter something like "C:\Users\TT\Documents\tw5\myParrots.html" 
Polly might extract the wiki name (its unique) and uses that as the label 
like ...

[wikis]
myParrots-html=C:\Users\TT\Documents\tw5\myParrots.html

I think it also mildly improves readability.

When I get time I'll look into that.

TT

Mark S. wrote:
>
> More seriously, we do need the = for some settings, and it's not too 
> onerous to set up, I think. I'd
> rather not introduce another point of possible failure into the code at 
> this time. Maybe when there's
> thousands of users 
>
 

> Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Hi Mark,
>>  It worked. A Problem was for correct address to the file, as I have copy 
>> pasted from web browser address bar!
>> One more question: why you need to
>>
>> file1=C:\TW\Polly\tw-wikidir\test1.html
>> file2=C:\TW\Polly\tw-wikidir\test2.html
>> file3=C:\TW\Polly\tw-wikidir\test-1.0.0.html
>>
>>
>> and why not to write just:
>>
>> C:\TW\Polly\tw-wikidir\test1.html
>> C:\TW\Polly\tw-wikidir\test2.html
>> C:\TW\Polly\tw-wikidir\test-1.0.0.html
>>
>

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