Re: [tw] Re: NEWBIE Questions: How to modify/set up a navigation?
On Thursday, September 11, 2014 7:50:25 AM UTC+2, Elizabeth Blythe wrote: For TW5v3.2, anyone know how to remove the tags information from the tiddler? I'm also interested in possibly removing or changing the color of the name by 'last edited time'. Hi, TW5v3.2 is not a version number for TiddlyWiki. If you want to get your TW version use the version macro in a tiddler. atm it should return: 5.0.16-beta for the latest version. -mario -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [tw] Re: NEWBIE Questions: How to modify/set up a navigation?
On Thursday, September 11, 2014 7:50:25 AM UTC+2, Elizabeth Blythe wrote: anyone know how to remove the tags information from the tiddler? I'm also interested in possibly removing or changing the color of the name by 'last edited time'. Open the Advanced Search panel and select the Shadows tab search for: $:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/tags Open the tiddler and remove the tag: $:/tags/ViewTemplate When you save the tiddler, the tags info is gone. To revert to the original setting, just delete your $:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/tags tidder, and the default system tiddler will take over again. -mario -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [tw] Re: NEWBIE Questions: How to modify/set up a navigation?
Thank you. On Thursday, September 11, 2014 6:53:10 PM UTC+10, PMario wrote: On Thursday, September 11, 2014 7:50:25 AM UTC+2, Elizabeth Blythe wrote: anyone know how to remove the tags information from the tiddler? I'm also interested in possibly removing or changing the color of the name by 'last edited time'. Open the Advanced Search panel and select the Shadows tab search for: $:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/tags Open the tiddler and remove the tag: $:/tags/ViewTemplate When you save the tiddler, the tags info is gone. To revert to the original setting, just delete your $:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/tags tidder, and the default system tiddler will take over again. -mario -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [tw] Re: NEWBIE Questions: How to modify/set up a navigation?
Greetings, For TW5v3.2, anyone know how to remove the tags information from the tiddler? I'm also interested in possibly removing or changing the color of the name by 'last edited time'. Thanks for the help! On Sunday, August 24, 2014 1:07:29 AM UTC+10, Elizabeth Blythe wrote: Hi Ton, I meant my own content, but I have figured that item out. I now have a link showing up in Contents when I click on the Contents tab in the navigation. That means I only need to get the ordering done. I've followed your directions in the Ordering (at least, I think I did), but it doesn't seem to be re-ordering the items in the Sidebar menu. I AM getting the Contents tiddler at the top of the list in the 'lists' info section of the $:/tags/Sidebar, but it is showing up in thin italics, which implies to me that it's not pointing to the Contents tiddler that I created. Any idea what I might have done wrong there? Warm regards, Elizabeth On Sunday, August 24, 2014 12:53:05 AM UTC+10, Ton Gerner wrote: Hi Elizabeth, For reordering have a look at [1]. See Customization Advanced customization Adding parts by tagging. Click the 'Ordering parts' slider. What do you mean by the body of the 'Contents' tiddler? Do you mean the TW documentation or your own content? Cheers, Ton [1] http://tw5custom.tiddlyspot.com/ On Saturday, August 23, 2014 4:37:32 PM UTC+2, Elizabeth Blythe wrote: Awesome - that got me most of the way there. I have the Contents tab added to my sidebar tabs... how can I re-order it so that my contents tab shows first in the sidebar instead of last? The other thing I want to do is make the body of the Contents tiddler become a list of links in the sidebar. If you can tell me how to do these two things, I've got everything I need! Thanks again! Warm regards, Elizabeth On Sunday, August 24, 2014 12:30:11 AM UTC+10, Ton Gerner wrote: Hi Elizabeth, Have a look at [1]. See Customization Advanced customization Adding parts by tagging where you can find information about the system tags. The information is not totally up to date (up to TW5.0.13-beta); I am in the process of upgrading my guides. Cheers, Ton [1] http://tw5custom.tiddlyspot.com/ On Saturday, August 23, 2014 4:15:49 PM UTC+2, Elizabeth Blythe wrote: Okay, after a break, I'm back at it. The experience is much better this time - no problems saving or anything. Can I get a sentence or two about what each of these tags do? $:/tags/ControlPanel http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#ControlPanel $:/tags/EditTemplate http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#EditTemplate $:/tags/EditToolbar http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#EditToolbar $:/tags/MoreSideBar http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#MoreSideBar $:/tags/PageControls http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#PageControls $:/tags/PageTemplate http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#PageTemplate $:/tags/SideBar http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#SideBar $:/tags/TiddlerInfo http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#TiddlerInfo $:/tags/ViewTemplate http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#ViewTemplate $:/tags/ViewToolbar http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#ViewToolbar I ask because they're in the TiddlyQuickly link (awesome, thank you for sharing it with me!) as part of the tutorial under the label Adjusting the appearance and layout of TiddlyWiki (slide 12 of 13). I'm not really sure I understand this section, but I think I'm getting closer. Thanks again for the patience and help! Warm regards, Elizabeth On Wednesday, August 6, 2014 6:40:28 PM UTC+10, Richard Smith wrote: Hi Elizabeth, Your project sounds very interesting. I have thought before that TW would be excellent for a choose your own adventure type book - I used to be obsessed with a series of books called Fighting Fantasy when I was a kid. If you decide to stick with TW classic, you should probably download the latest version, check it works and then try importing the tiddlers from your old wiki into the new one. If you decide to try TW5, I'm sure everyone here would be happy to help. Personally I have decided to commit to using it and trust that it will eventually have all the features that I need for my project (I am writing a textbook) I think it would be great for somebody who is completely new to TW5 to write a plain English guide to doing the basics without going under the hood. Once you've learned how it all works it's easy to forget what it looks like to people who haven't. I hope you get it to work. Regards, Richard On Wednesday, August 6, 2014 5:45:41 PM UTC+10, Elizabeth Blythe wrote: Thanks Daniel Richard, I haven't seen the TiddlyQuickly site, so I'll have a read. If I can figure this out before I get too frustrated, I may even write my own tutorial (unless it's reinventing the wheel, since it looks like there's a few people
Re: [tw] Re: NEWBIE Questions: How to modify/set up a navigation?
Hello Elizabeth, I too have reverted to an earlier version of TW to get the specific functions I want. Once the good folk on here have made TW5 simpleton-friendly, I'll try again with that. Meanwhile, I'm using the K-Meleon browser to work on my old textbase. See http://kmeleon.sourceforge.net/ . Regards, Roger = = = = = On Wednesday, August 6, 2014 2:33:57 AM UTC+1, Elizabeth Blythe wrote: ...It's a shame that IE, Firefox and Chrome these days seem to hate my older version of TiddlyWiki, so I can't use that either. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [tw] Re: NEWBIE Questions: How to modify/set up a navigation?
Okay, after a break, I'm back at it. The experience is much better this time - no problems saving or anything. Can I get a sentence or two about what each of these tags do? $:/tags/ControlPanel http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#ControlPanel $:/tags/EditTemplate http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#EditTemplate $:/tags/EditToolbar http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#EditToolbar $:/tags/MoreSideBar http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#MoreSideBar $:/tags/PageControls http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#PageControls $:/tags/PageTemplate http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#PageTemplate $:/tags/SideBar http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#SideBar $:/tags/TiddlerInfo http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#TiddlerInfo $:/tags/ViewTemplate http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#ViewTemplate $:/tags/ViewToolbar http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#ViewToolbar I ask because they're in the TiddlyQuickly link (awesome, thank you for sharing it with me!) as part of the tutorial under the label Adjusting the appearance and layout of TiddlyWiki (slide 12 of 13). I'm not really sure I understand this section, but I think I'm getting closer. Thanks again for the patience and help! Warm regards, Elizabeth On Wednesday, August 6, 2014 6:40:28 PM UTC+10, Richard Smith wrote: Hi Elizabeth, Your project sounds very interesting. I have thought before that TW would be excellent for a choose your own adventure type book - I used to be obsessed with a series of books called Fighting Fantasy when I was a kid. If you decide to stick with TW classic, you should probably download the latest version, check it works and then try importing the tiddlers from your old wiki into the new one. If you decide to try TW5, I'm sure everyone here would be happy to help. Personally I have decided to commit to using it and trust that it will eventually have all the features that I need for my project (I am writing a textbook) I think it would be great for somebody who is completely new to TW5 to write a plain English guide to doing the basics without going under the hood. Once you've learned how it all works it's easy to forget what it looks like to people who haven't. I hope you get it to work. Regards, Richard On Wednesday, August 6, 2014 5:45:41 PM UTC+10, Elizabeth Blythe wrote: Thanks Daniel Richard, I haven't seen the TiddlyQuickly site, so I'll have a read. If I can figure this out before I get too frustrated, I may even write my own tutorial (unless it's reinventing the wheel, since it looks like there's a few people collaborating on this). Amongst my many past times, I'm an online game designer, and I'm using the wiki to design a story-based non-linear game. An example is something like this: http://cinders.wikia.com/wiki/Cinders_Wiki -- mind, that's the underlying structure, not the front end. What I need to do is change up the navigation, then add dialogue and plot archs that link to one another, etc. It shouldn't be that hard with base TiddlyWiki functionality. I have an older version of TW (not sure which it is) that I keep getting errors on upon opening. Thanks again for the help; I'll check out those sites. Warm regards, Elizabeth On Wednesday, August 6, 2014 2:35:32 PM UTC+10, Daniel Baird wrote: In addition to Richard Smith's comments, I think it's worth noting that (in my estimation) TW5 is being build from the inside out -- technical architecture first, then getting the fiddly inside bits right, then the nice friendly bits will come on after. So I think it's okay for it to be unfriendly now, where it expects you to twist some metaphorical wires together to switch things on and off. My expectation is that in the near future, the (equally metaphorical) nice carbon fibre panels and the dashboard with switches and dials gets added, and there will be a much more pleasant Initial Experience. If anything, the thing that's trickiest is that tiddlywiki.com goes to tw5 and not the prior tw version. ;Daniel On 6 August 2014 11:33, Elizabeth Blythe para...@gmail.com wrote: I just want to say thank you for all of the help. I also want to express that, while I honor the work that went into this - gosh, thank you for creating a project flexible, for free, for anyone walking along with an internet connection - I'm disappointed with some of the design choices in TW5. The thing I loved about TiddlyWiki to start off with was that it was in plain English, you didn't need to know how the wiki worked to tailor pretty much every aspect of it, you needed very little information about its structure (there were enough crumbs within the wiki itself to figure out or find anything you didn't know) within past TiddlyWikis that they had a lot of utility for non-tech people. I've been chipping away at TW5 for about four days now and have barely figured out how tags work. The documentation I'm
Re: [tw] Re: NEWBIE Questions: How to modify/set up a navigation?
Hi Elizabeth, Have a look at [1]. See Customization Advanced customization Adding parts by tagging where you can find information about the system tags. The information is not totally up to date (up to TW5.0.13-beta); I am in the process of upgrading my guides. Cheers, Ton [1] http://tw5custom.tiddlyspot.com/ On Saturday, August 23, 2014 4:15:49 PM UTC+2, Elizabeth Blythe wrote: Okay, after a break, I'm back at it. The experience is much better this time - no problems saving or anything. Can I get a sentence or two about what each of these tags do? $:/tags/ControlPanel http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#ControlPanel $:/tags/EditTemplate http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#EditTemplate $:/tags/EditToolbar http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#EditToolbar $:/tags/MoreSideBar http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#MoreSideBar $:/tags/PageControls http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#PageControls $:/tags/PageTemplate http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#PageTemplate $:/tags/SideBar http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#SideBar $:/tags/TiddlerInfo http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#TiddlerInfo $:/tags/ViewTemplate http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#ViewTemplate $:/tags/ViewToolbar http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#ViewToolbar I ask because they're in the TiddlyQuickly link (awesome, thank you for sharing it with me!) as part of the tutorial under the label Adjusting the appearance and layout of TiddlyWiki (slide 12 of 13). I'm not really sure I understand this section, but I think I'm getting closer. Thanks again for the patience and help! Warm regards, Elizabeth On Wednesday, August 6, 2014 6:40:28 PM UTC+10, Richard Smith wrote: Hi Elizabeth, Your project sounds very interesting. I have thought before that TW would be excellent for a choose your own adventure type book - I used to be obsessed with a series of books called Fighting Fantasy when I was a kid. If you decide to stick with TW classic, you should probably download the latest version, check it works and then try importing the tiddlers from your old wiki into the new one. If you decide to try TW5, I'm sure everyone here would be happy to help. Personally I have decided to commit to using it and trust that it will eventually have all the features that I need for my project (I am writing a textbook) I think it would be great for somebody who is completely new to TW5 to write a plain English guide to doing the basics without going under the hood. Once you've learned how it all works it's easy to forget what it looks like to people who haven't. I hope you get it to work. Regards, Richard On Wednesday, August 6, 2014 5:45:41 PM UTC+10, Elizabeth Blythe wrote: Thanks Daniel Richard, I haven't seen the TiddlyQuickly site, so I'll have a read. If I can figure this out before I get too frustrated, I may even write my own tutorial (unless it's reinventing the wheel, since it looks like there's a few people collaborating on this). Amongst my many past times, I'm an online game designer, and I'm using the wiki to design a story-based non-linear game. An example is something like this: http://cinders.wikia.com/wiki/Cinders_Wiki -- mind, that's the underlying structure, not the front end. What I need to do is change up the navigation, then add dialogue and plot archs that link to one another, etc. It shouldn't be that hard with base TiddlyWiki functionality. I have an older version of TW (not sure which it is) that I keep getting errors on upon opening. Thanks again for the help; I'll check out those sites. Warm regards, Elizabeth On Wednesday, August 6, 2014 2:35:32 PM UTC+10, Daniel Baird wrote: In addition to Richard Smith's comments, I think it's worth noting that (in my estimation) TW5 is being build from the inside out -- technical architecture first, then getting the fiddly inside bits right, then the nice friendly bits will come on after. So I think it's okay for it to be unfriendly now, where it expects you to twist some metaphorical wires together to switch things on and off. My expectation is that in the near future, the (equally metaphorical) nice carbon fibre panels and the dashboard with switches and dials gets added, and there will be a much more pleasant Initial Experience. If anything, the thing that's trickiest is that tiddlywiki.com goes to tw5 and not the prior tw version. ;Daniel On 6 August 2014 11:33, Elizabeth Blythe para...@gmail.com wrote: I just want to say thank you for all of the help. I also want to express that, while I honor the work that went into this - gosh, thank you for creating a project flexible, for free, for anyone walking along with an internet connection - I'm disappointed with some of the design choices in TW5. The thing I loved about TiddlyWiki to start off with was that it was in plain English, you didn't need to know how the wiki
Re: [tw] Re: NEWBIE Questions: How to modify/set up a navigation?
Awesome - that got me most of the way there. I have the Contents tab added to my sidebar tabs... how can I re-order it so that my contents tab shows first in the sidebar instead of last? The other thing I want to do is make the body of the Contents tiddler become a list of links in the sidebar. If you can tell me how to do these two things, I've got everything I need! Thanks again! Warm regards, Elizabeth On Sunday, August 24, 2014 12:30:11 AM UTC+10, Ton Gerner wrote: Hi Elizabeth, Have a look at [1]. See Customization Advanced customization Adding parts by tagging where you can find information about the system tags. The information is not totally up to date (up to TW5.0.13-beta); I am in the process of upgrading my guides. Cheers, Ton [1] http://tw5custom.tiddlyspot.com/ On Saturday, August 23, 2014 4:15:49 PM UTC+2, Elizabeth Blythe wrote: Okay, after a break, I'm back at it. The experience is much better this time - no problems saving or anything. Can I get a sentence or two about what each of these tags do? $:/tags/ControlPanel http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#ControlPanel $:/tags/EditTemplate http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#EditTemplate $:/tags/EditToolbar http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#EditToolbar $:/tags/MoreSideBar http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#MoreSideBar $:/tags/PageControls http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#PageControls $:/tags/PageTemplate http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#PageTemplate $:/tags/SideBar http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#SideBar $:/tags/TiddlerInfo http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#TiddlerInfo $:/tags/ViewTemplate http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#ViewTemplate $:/tags/ViewToolbar http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#ViewToolbar I ask because they're in the TiddlyQuickly link (awesome, thank you for sharing it with me!) as part of the tutorial under the label Adjusting the appearance and layout of TiddlyWiki (slide 12 of 13). I'm not really sure I understand this section, but I think I'm getting closer. Thanks again for the patience and help! Warm regards, Elizabeth On Wednesday, August 6, 2014 6:40:28 PM UTC+10, Richard Smith wrote: Hi Elizabeth, Your project sounds very interesting. I have thought before that TW would be excellent for a choose your own adventure type book - I used to be obsessed with a series of books called Fighting Fantasy when I was a kid. If you decide to stick with TW classic, you should probably download the latest version, check it works and then try importing the tiddlers from your old wiki into the new one. If you decide to try TW5, I'm sure everyone here would be happy to help. Personally I have decided to commit to using it and trust that it will eventually have all the features that I need for my project (I am writing a textbook) I think it would be great for somebody who is completely new to TW5 to write a plain English guide to doing the basics without going under the hood. Once you've learned how it all works it's easy to forget what it looks like to people who haven't. I hope you get it to work. Regards, Richard On Wednesday, August 6, 2014 5:45:41 PM UTC+10, Elizabeth Blythe wrote: Thanks Daniel Richard, I haven't seen the TiddlyQuickly site, so I'll have a read. If I can figure this out before I get too frustrated, I may even write my own tutorial (unless it's reinventing the wheel, since it looks like there's a few people collaborating on this). Amongst my many past times, I'm an online game designer, and I'm using the wiki to design a story-based non-linear game. An example is something like this: http://cinders.wikia.com/wiki/Cinders_Wiki -- mind, that's the underlying structure, not the front end. What I need to do is change up the navigation, then add dialogue and plot archs that link to one another, etc. It shouldn't be that hard with base TiddlyWiki functionality. I have an older version of TW (not sure which it is) that I keep getting errors on upon opening. Thanks again for the help; I'll check out those sites. Warm regards, Elizabeth On Wednesday, August 6, 2014 2:35:32 PM UTC+10, Daniel Baird wrote: In addition to Richard Smith's comments, I think it's worth noting that (in my estimation) TW5 is being build from the inside out -- technical architecture first, then getting the fiddly inside bits right, then the nice friendly bits will come on after. So I think it's okay for it to be unfriendly now, where it expects you to twist some metaphorical wires together to switch things on and off. My expectation is that in the near future, the (equally metaphorical) nice carbon fibre panels and the dashboard with switches and dials gets added, and there will be a much more pleasant Initial Experience. If anything, the thing that's trickiest is that tiddlywiki.com goes to tw5 and not the prior tw version. ;Daniel On 6
Re: [tw] Re: NEWBIE Questions: How to modify/set up a navigation?
Hi Elizabeth, For reordering have a look at [1]. See Customization Advanced customization Adding parts by tagging. Click the 'Ordering parts' slider. What do you mean by the body of the 'Contents' tiddler? Do you mean the TW documentation or your own content? Cheers, Ton [1] http://tw5custom.tiddlyspot.com/ On Saturday, August 23, 2014 4:37:32 PM UTC+2, Elizabeth Blythe wrote: Awesome - that got me most of the way there. I have the Contents tab added to my sidebar tabs... how can I re-order it so that my contents tab shows first in the sidebar instead of last? The other thing I want to do is make the body of the Contents tiddler become a list of links in the sidebar. If you can tell me how to do these two things, I've got everything I need! Thanks again! Warm regards, Elizabeth On Sunday, August 24, 2014 12:30:11 AM UTC+10, Ton Gerner wrote: Hi Elizabeth, Have a look at [1]. See Customization Advanced customization Adding parts by tagging where you can find information about the system tags. The information is not totally up to date (up to TW5.0.13-beta); I am in the process of upgrading my guides. Cheers, Ton [1] http://tw5custom.tiddlyspot.com/ On Saturday, August 23, 2014 4:15:49 PM UTC+2, Elizabeth Blythe wrote: Okay, after a break, I'm back at it. The experience is much better this time - no problems saving or anything. Can I get a sentence or two about what each of these tags do? $:/tags/ControlPanel http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#ControlPanel $:/tags/EditTemplate http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#EditTemplate $:/tags/EditToolbar http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#EditToolbar $:/tags/MoreSideBar http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#MoreSideBar $:/tags/PageControls http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#PageControls $:/tags/PageTemplate http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#PageTemplate $:/tags/SideBar http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#SideBar $:/tags/TiddlerInfo http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#TiddlerInfo $:/tags/ViewTemplate http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#ViewTemplate $:/tags/ViewToolbar http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#ViewToolbar I ask because they're in the TiddlyQuickly link (awesome, thank you for sharing it with me!) as part of the tutorial under the label Adjusting the appearance and layout of TiddlyWiki (slide 12 of 13). I'm not really sure I understand this section, but I think I'm getting closer. Thanks again for the patience and help! Warm regards, Elizabeth On Wednesday, August 6, 2014 6:40:28 PM UTC+10, Richard Smith wrote: Hi Elizabeth, Your project sounds very interesting. I have thought before that TW would be excellent for a choose your own adventure type book - I used to be obsessed with a series of books called Fighting Fantasy when I was a kid. If you decide to stick with TW classic, you should probably download the latest version, check it works and then try importing the tiddlers from your old wiki into the new one. If you decide to try TW5, I'm sure everyone here would be happy to help. Personally I have decided to commit to using it and trust that it will eventually have all the features that I need for my project (I am writing a textbook) I think it would be great for somebody who is completely new to TW5 to write a plain English guide to doing the basics without going under the hood. Once you've learned how it all works it's easy to forget what it looks like to people who haven't. I hope you get it to work. Regards, Richard On Wednesday, August 6, 2014 5:45:41 PM UTC+10, Elizabeth Blythe wrote: Thanks Daniel Richard, I haven't seen the TiddlyQuickly site, so I'll have a read. If I can figure this out before I get too frustrated, I may even write my own tutorial (unless it's reinventing the wheel, since it looks like there's a few people collaborating on this). Amongst my many past times, I'm an online game designer, and I'm using the wiki to design a story-based non-linear game. An example is something like this: http://cinders.wikia.com/wiki/Cinders_Wiki -- mind, that's the underlying structure, not the front end. What I need to do is change up the navigation, then add dialogue and plot archs that link to one another, etc. It shouldn't be that hard with base TiddlyWiki functionality. I have an older version of TW (not sure which it is) that I keep getting errors on upon opening. Thanks again for the help; I'll check out those sites. Warm regards, Elizabeth On Wednesday, August 6, 2014 2:35:32 PM UTC+10, Daniel Baird wrote: In addition to Richard Smith's comments, I think it's worth noting that (in my estimation) TW5 is being build from the inside out -- technical architecture first, then getting the fiddly inside bits right, then the nice friendly bits will come on after. So I think it's okay for it to be unfriendly now, where it expects you
Re: [tw] Re: NEWBIE Questions: How to modify/set up a navigation?
Hi Ton, I meant my own content, but I have figured that item out. I now have a link showing up in Contents when I click on the Contents tab in the navigation. That means I only need to get the ordering done. I've followed your directions in the Ordering (at least, I think I did), but it doesn't seem to be re-ordering the items in the Sidebar menu. I AM getting the Contents tiddler at the top of the list in the 'lists' info section of the $:/tags/Sidebar, but it is showing up in thin italics, which implies to me that it's not pointing to the Contents tiddler that I created. Any idea what I might have done wrong there? Warm regards, Elizabeth On Sunday, August 24, 2014 12:53:05 AM UTC+10, Ton Gerner wrote: Hi Elizabeth, For reordering have a look at [1]. See Customization Advanced customization Adding parts by tagging. Click the 'Ordering parts' slider. What do you mean by the body of the 'Contents' tiddler? Do you mean the TW documentation or your own content? Cheers, Ton [1] http://tw5custom.tiddlyspot.com/ On Saturday, August 23, 2014 4:37:32 PM UTC+2, Elizabeth Blythe wrote: Awesome - that got me most of the way there. I have the Contents tab added to my sidebar tabs... how can I re-order it so that my contents tab shows first in the sidebar instead of last? The other thing I want to do is make the body of the Contents tiddler become a list of links in the sidebar. If you can tell me how to do these two things, I've got everything I need! Thanks again! Warm regards, Elizabeth On Sunday, August 24, 2014 12:30:11 AM UTC+10, Ton Gerner wrote: Hi Elizabeth, Have a look at [1]. See Customization Advanced customization Adding parts by tagging where you can find information about the system tags. The information is not totally up to date (up to TW5.0.13-beta); I am in the process of upgrading my guides. Cheers, Ton [1] http://tw5custom.tiddlyspot.com/ On Saturday, August 23, 2014 4:15:49 PM UTC+2, Elizabeth Blythe wrote: Okay, after a break, I'm back at it. The experience is much better this time - no problems saving or anything. Can I get a sentence or two about what each of these tags do? $:/tags/ControlPanel http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#ControlPanel $:/tags/EditTemplate http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#EditTemplate $:/tags/EditToolbar http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#EditToolbar $:/tags/MoreSideBar http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#MoreSideBar $:/tags/PageControls http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#PageControls $:/tags/PageTemplate http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#PageTemplate $:/tags/SideBar http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#SideBar $:/tags/TiddlerInfo http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#TiddlerInfo $:/tags/ViewTemplate http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#ViewTemplate $:/tags/ViewToolbar http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#ViewToolbar I ask because they're in the TiddlyQuickly link (awesome, thank you for sharing it with me!) as part of the tutorial under the label Adjusting the appearance and layout of TiddlyWiki (slide 12 of 13). I'm not really sure I understand this section, but I think I'm getting closer. Thanks again for the patience and help! Warm regards, Elizabeth On Wednesday, August 6, 2014 6:40:28 PM UTC+10, Richard Smith wrote: Hi Elizabeth, Your project sounds very interesting. I have thought before that TW would be excellent for a choose your own adventure type book - I used to be obsessed with a series of books called Fighting Fantasy when I was a kid. If you decide to stick with TW classic, you should probably download the latest version, check it works and then try importing the tiddlers from your old wiki into the new one. If you decide to try TW5, I'm sure everyone here would be happy to help. Personally I have decided to commit to using it and trust that it will eventually have all the features that I need for my project (I am writing a textbook) I think it would be great for somebody who is completely new to TW5 to write a plain English guide to doing the basics without going under the hood. Once you've learned how it all works it's easy to forget what it looks like to people who haven't. I hope you get it to work. Regards, Richard On Wednesday, August 6, 2014 5:45:41 PM UTC+10, Elizabeth Blythe wrote: Thanks Daniel Richard, I haven't seen the TiddlyQuickly site, so I'll have a read. If I can figure this out before I get too frustrated, I may even write my own tutorial (unless it's reinventing the wheel, since it looks like there's a few people collaborating on this). Amongst my many past times, I'm an online game designer, and I'm using the wiki to design a story-based non-linear game. An example is something like this: http://cinders.wikia.com/wiki/Cinders_Wiki -- mind, that's the underlying structure, not the front end. What I need to do is change up
Re: [tw] Re: NEWBIE Questions: How to modify/set up a navigation?
Just a note - I resolved the ordering issue! I am now a very happy TiddlyWiki5 user at the moment. Thanks again, everyone in this discussion, for your help and assistance. On Sunday, August 24, 2014 1:07:29 AM UTC+10, Elizabeth Blythe wrote: Hi Ton, I meant my own content, but I have figured that item out. I now have a link showing up in Contents when I click on the Contents tab in the navigation. That means I only need to get the ordering done. I've followed your directions in the Ordering (at least, I think I did), but it doesn't seem to be re-ordering the items in the Sidebar menu. I AM getting the Contents tiddler at the top of the list in the 'lists' info section of the $:/tags/Sidebar, but it is showing up in thin italics, which implies to me that it's not pointing to the Contents tiddler that I created. Any idea what I might have done wrong there? Warm regards, Elizabeth On Sunday, August 24, 2014 12:53:05 AM UTC+10, Ton Gerner wrote: Hi Elizabeth, For reordering have a look at [1]. See Customization Advanced customization Adding parts by tagging. Click the 'Ordering parts' slider. What do you mean by the body of the 'Contents' tiddler? Do you mean the TW documentation or your own content? Cheers, Ton [1] http://tw5custom.tiddlyspot.com/ On Saturday, August 23, 2014 4:37:32 PM UTC+2, Elizabeth Blythe wrote: Awesome - that got me most of the way there. I have the Contents tab added to my sidebar tabs... how can I re-order it so that my contents tab shows first in the sidebar instead of last? The other thing I want to do is make the body of the Contents tiddler become a list of links in the sidebar. If you can tell me how to do these two things, I've got everything I need! Thanks again! Warm regards, Elizabeth On Sunday, August 24, 2014 12:30:11 AM UTC+10, Ton Gerner wrote: Hi Elizabeth, Have a look at [1]. See Customization Advanced customization Adding parts by tagging where you can find information about the system tags. The information is not totally up to date (up to TW5.0.13-beta); I am in the process of upgrading my guides. Cheers, Ton [1] http://tw5custom.tiddlyspot.com/ On Saturday, August 23, 2014 4:15:49 PM UTC+2, Elizabeth Blythe wrote: Okay, after a break, I'm back at it. The experience is much better this time - no problems saving or anything. Can I get a sentence or two about what each of these tags do? $:/tags/ControlPanel http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#ControlPanel $:/tags/EditTemplate http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#EditTemplate $:/tags/EditToolbar http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#EditToolbar $:/tags/MoreSideBar http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#MoreSideBar $:/tags/PageControls http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#PageControls $:/tags/PageTemplate http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#PageTemplate $:/tags/SideBar http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#SideBar $:/tags/TiddlerInfo http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#TiddlerInfo $:/tags/ViewTemplate http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#ViewTemplate $:/tags/ViewToolbar http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html#ViewToolbar I ask because they're in the TiddlyQuickly link (awesome, thank you for sharing it with me!) as part of the tutorial under the label Adjusting the appearance and layout of TiddlyWiki (slide 12 of 13). I'm not really sure I understand this section, but I think I'm getting closer. Thanks again for the patience and help! Warm regards, Elizabeth On Wednesday, August 6, 2014 6:40:28 PM UTC+10, Richard Smith wrote: Hi Elizabeth, Your project sounds very interesting. I have thought before that TW would be excellent for a choose your own adventure type book - I used to be obsessed with a series of books called Fighting Fantasy when I was a kid. If you decide to stick with TW classic, you should probably download the latest version, check it works and then try importing the tiddlers from your old wiki into the new one. If you decide to try TW5, I'm sure everyone here would be happy to help. Personally I have decided to commit to using it and trust that it will eventually have all the features that I need for my project (I am writing a textbook) I think it would be great for somebody who is completely new to TW5 to write a plain English guide to doing the basics without going under the hood. Once you've learned how it all works it's easy to forget what it looks like to people who haven't. I hope you get it to work. Regards, Richard On Wednesday, August 6, 2014 5:45:41 PM UTC+10, Elizabeth Blythe wrote: Thanks Daniel Richard, I haven't seen the TiddlyQuickly site, so I'll have a read. If I can figure this out before I get too frustrated, I may even write my own tutorial (unless it's reinventing the wheel, since it looks like there's a few people collaborating on this). Amongst my many past
Re: [tw] Re: NEWBIE Questions: How to modify/set up a navigation?
Thanks Daniel Richard, I haven't seen the TiddlyQuickly site, so I'll have a read. If I can figure this out before I get too frustrated, I may even write my own tutorial (unless it's reinventing the wheel, since it looks like there's a few people collaborating on this). Amongst my many past times, I'm an online game designer, and I'm using the wiki to design a story-based non-linear game. An example is something like this: http://cinders.wikia.com/wiki/Cinders_Wiki -- mind, that's the underlying structure, not the front end. What I need to do is change up the navigation, then add dialogue and plot archs that link to one another, etc. It shouldn't be that hard with base TiddlyWiki functionality. I have an older version of TW (not sure which it is) that I keep getting errors on upon opening. Thanks again for the help; I'll check out those sites. Warm regards, Elizabeth On Wednesday, August 6, 2014 2:35:32 PM UTC+10, Daniel Baird wrote: In addition to Richard Smith's comments, I think it's worth noting that (in my estimation) TW5 is being build from the inside out -- technical architecture first, then getting the fiddly inside bits right, then the nice friendly bits will come on after. So I think it's okay for it to be unfriendly now, where it expects you to twist some metaphorical wires together to switch things on and off. My expectation is that in the near future, the (equally metaphorical) nice carbon fibre panels and the dashboard with switches and dials gets added, and there will be a much more pleasant Initial Experience. If anything, the thing that's trickiest is that tiddlywiki.com goes to tw5 and not the prior tw version. ;Daniel On 6 August 2014 11:33, Elizabeth Blythe para...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: I just want to say thank you for all of the help. I also want to express that, while I honor the work that went into this - gosh, thank you for creating a project flexible, for free, for anyone walking along with an internet connection - I'm disappointed with some of the design choices in TW5. The thing I loved about TiddlyWiki to start off with was that it was in plain English, you didn't need to know how the wiki worked to tailor pretty much every aspect of it, you needed very little information about its structure (there were enough crumbs within the wiki itself to figure out or find anything you didn't know) within past TiddlyWikis that they had a lot of utility for non-tech people. I've been chipping away at TW5 for about four days now and have barely figured out how tags work. The documentation I'm reading doesn't really seem to help me figure out what I want to know, the TiddlyWiki itself reads like Greek, and I'm seriously worried that I will be unable to use TW5 for the project I had in mind. TW5 seems to have moved away from being a layman's highly configurable and transportable notebook - now, I need to find and use special characters, figure out where those things are and how they work, and actually get a help websites and group support to tell me how to do things... on the past TiddlyWikis that I used, I was up and running with really complex work in maybe thirty minutes at the outside, and I never had to join a community to get help. It let me focus on what I was using the wiki for, not have to learn how to use the wiki. Maybe I'm too impatient or something, I don't know, but I think TiddlyWiki5 went way right field of what made it appealing to the average Joe in the first place. It's a shame that IE, Firefox and Chrome these days seem to hate my older version of TiddlyWiki, so I can't use that either. Please understand that I don't mean any of the above to be intentionally nasty or over-critical; I just wanted to raise the point constructively for consideration. Like I said, I deeply appreciate the work that's gone into this, and that I even had the option of using TiddlyWiki. Thank you, - Elizabeth On Sunday, August 3, 2014 11:14:12 PM UTC+10, Ton Gerner wrote: Hi Elizabeth, Have a look at [1] Cheers, Ton [1] http://tw5custom.tiddlyspot.com/ On Sunday, August 3, 2014 1:38:29 PM UTC+2, Jeremy Ruston wrote: Hi Elizabeth There's a list of system tags here: http://tiddlywiki.com/#SystemTags Best wishes Jeremy On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Elizabeth Blythe para...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you, Richard! Is there a comprehensive list of system tags and what they do somewhere? Once again, thank you! On Sunday, August 3, 2014 4:47:58 PM UTC+10, Richard Smith wrote: Hi, You can add a tab to the sidebar by making a new Tiddler, eg; Table of Contents and giving it the tag $:/tags/SideBar. Regards, Richard On Sunday, August 3, 2014 10:13:37 AM UTC+10, Elizabeth Blythe wrote: Greetings, I used to use an older version of TiddlyWiki, so I'm used to being able to define what goes into the navigation links
Re: [tw] Re: NEWBIE Questions: How to modify/set up a navigation?
Hi Elizabeth, Your project sounds very interesting. I have thought before that TW would be excellent for a choose your own adventure type book - I used to be obsessed with a series of books called Fighting Fantasy when I was a kid. If you decide to stick with TW classic, you should probably download the latest version, check it works and then try importing the tiddlers from your old wiki into the new one. If you decide to try TW5, I'm sure everyone here would be happy to help. Personally I have decided to commit to using it and trust that it will eventually have all the features that I need for my project (I am writing a textbook) I think it would be great for somebody who is completely new to TW5 to write a plain English guide to doing the basics without going under the hood. Once you've learned how it all works it's easy to forget what it looks like to people who haven't. I hope you get it to work. Regards, Richard On Wednesday, August 6, 2014 5:45:41 PM UTC+10, Elizabeth Blythe wrote: Thanks Daniel Richard, I haven't seen the TiddlyQuickly site, so I'll have a read. If I can figure this out before I get too frustrated, I may even write my own tutorial (unless it's reinventing the wheel, since it looks like there's a few people collaborating on this). Amongst my many past times, I'm an online game designer, and I'm using the wiki to design a story-based non-linear game. An example is something like this: http://cinders.wikia.com/wiki/Cinders_Wiki -- mind, that's the underlying structure, not the front end. What I need to do is change up the navigation, then add dialogue and plot archs that link to one another, etc. It shouldn't be that hard with base TiddlyWiki functionality. I have an older version of TW (not sure which it is) that I keep getting errors on upon opening. Thanks again for the help; I'll check out those sites. Warm regards, Elizabeth On Wednesday, August 6, 2014 2:35:32 PM UTC+10, Daniel Baird wrote: In addition to Richard Smith's comments, I think it's worth noting that (in my estimation) TW5 is being build from the inside out -- technical architecture first, then getting the fiddly inside bits right, then the nice friendly bits will come on after. So I think it's okay for it to be unfriendly now, where it expects you to twist some metaphorical wires together to switch things on and off. My expectation is that in the near future, the (equally metaphorical) nice carbon fibre panels and the dashboard with switches and dials gets added, and there will be a much more pleasant Initial Experience. If anything, the thing that's trickiest is that tiddlywiki.com goes to tw5 and not the prior tw version. ;Daniel On 6 August 2014 11:33, Elizabeth Blythe para...@gmail.com wrote: I just want to say thank you for all of the help. I also want to express that, while I honor the work that went into this - gosh, thank you for creating a project flexible, for free, for anyone walking along with an internet connection - I'm disappointed with some of the design choices in TW5. The thing I loved about TiddlyWiki to start off with was that it was in plain English, you didn't need to know how the wiki worked to tailor pretty much every aspect of it, you needed very little information about its structure (there were enough crumbs within the wiki itself to figure out or find anything you didn't know) within past TiddlyWikis that they had a lot of utility for non-tech people. I've been chipping away at TW5 for about four days now and have barely figured out how tags work. The documentation I'm reading doesn't really seem to help me figure out what I want to know, the TiddlyWiki itself reads like Greek, and I'm seriously worried that I will be unable to use TW5 for the project I had in mind. TW5 seems to have moved away from being a layman's highly configurable and transportable notebook - now, I need to find and use special characters, figure out where those things are and how they work, and actually get a help websites and group support to tell me how to do things... on the past TiddlyWikis that I used, I was up and running with really complex work in maybe thirty minutes at the outside, and I never had to join a community to get help. It let me focus on what I was using the wiki for, not have to learn how to use the wiki. Maybe I'm too impatient or something, I don't know, but I think TiddlyWiki5 went way right field of what made it appealing to the average Joe in the first place. It's a shame that IE, Firefox and Chrome these days seem to hate my older version of TiddlyWiki, so I can't use that either. Please understand that I don't mean any of the above to be intentionally nasty or over-critical; I just wanted to raise the point constructively for consideration. Like I said, I deeply appreciate the work that's gone into this, and that I even had the
Re: [tw] Re: NEWBIE Questions: How to modify/set up a navigation?
Hi Elizabeth, I'm nothing to do with TiddlyWiki development or anything, so I certainly don't speak in any official capacity - I am just a keen user - but I understand your frustration. I felt a little overwhelmed too when I came back to TiddlyWiki to find the new version in it's current state but I then realised that it might not be appropriate to compare the two. The new version of TiddlyWiki isn't finished yet, for one thing, and new functionality is being added every week. The next update - 5.0.14 - will improve lots of things, such as the import mechanism and it seems there will be several more updates before it is actually released. Also what makes the old version really useful is the ecosystem of features and documentation built by the community. This will need time to regenerate around the new version. There are also lots of inherently great things about the new version, such as dragging-and-dropping content from other windows and the desktop and the ability to store pictures as first class citizens. The node.js and Tiddlydesktop versions also make it feasible to scale a TW project to become very big, as well as adding other interesting functionality. The old version of TiddlyWiki still exists and the community has expressed every intention of maintaining it for the foreseeable future so it's totally feasible to use that version for now and move across the TW5 later if/when it suits you (http://classic.tiddlywiki.com/). I don't know why your browsers 'hate' the old document but the latest version (2.8.1) works fine for me. I think that the eventual plan for TiddlyWiki 5 is to offer it in a number of different versions, each of which is tailored to a different use case. Documentation is also an often-discussed topic within the community and there is consensus that it needs to be radically improved. I'm sure that any further feedback you could offer about exactly what you were trying to achieve would assist in this respect - it will help us to write better introductory guides. Did you see this guide, put together by Dave Gifford? (http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html) Regards, Richard On Wednesday, August 6, 2014 11:33:57 AM UTC+10, Elizabeth Blythe wrote: I just want to say thank you for all of the help. I also want to express that, while I honor the work that went into this - gosh, thank you for creating a project flexible, for free, for anyone walking along with an internet connection - I'm disappointed with some of the design choices in TW5. The thing I loved about TiddlyWiki to start off with was that it was in plain English, you didn't need to know how the wiki worked to tailor pretty much every aspect of it, you needed very little information about its structure (there were enough crumbs within the wiki itself to figure out or find anything you didn't know) within past TiddlyWikis that they had a lot of utility for non-tech people. I've been chipping away at TW5 for about four days now and have barely figured out how tags work. The documentation I'm reading doesn't really seem to help me figure out what I want to know, the TiddlyWiki itself reads like Greek, and I'm seriously worried that I will be unable to use TW5 for the project I had in mind. TW5 seems to have moved away from being a layman's highly configurable and transportable notebook - now, I need to find and use special characters, figure out where those things are and how they work, and actually get a help websites and group support to tell me how to do things... on the past TiddlyWikis that I used, I was up and running with really complex work in maybe thirty minutes at the outside, and I never had to join a community to get help. It let me focus on what I was using the wiki for, not have to learn how to use the wiki. Maybe I'm too impatient or something, I don't know, but I think TiddlyWiki5 went way right field of what made it appealing to the average Joe in the first place. It's a shame that IE, Firefox and Chrome these days seem to hate my older version of TiddlyWiki, so I can't use that either. Please understand that I don't mean any of the above to be intentionally nasty or over-critical; I just wanted to raise the point constructively for consideration. Like I said, I deeply appreciate the work that's gone into this, and that I even had the option of using TiddlyWiki. Thank you, - Elizabeth On Sunday, August 3, 2014 11:14:12 PM UTC+10, Ton Gerner wrote: Hi Elizabeth, Have a look at [1] Cheers, Ton [1] http://tw5custom.tiddlyspot.com/ On Sunday, August 3, 2014 1:38:29 PM UTC+2, Jeremy Ruston wrote: Hi Elizabeth There's a list of system tags here: http://tiddlywiki.com/#SystemTags Best wishes Jeremy On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Elizabeth Blythe para...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you, Richard! Is there a comprehensive list of system tags and what they do somewhere? Once again,
Re: [tw] Re: NEWBIE Questions: How to modify/set up a navigation?
In addition to Richard Smith's comments, I think it's worth noting that (in my estimation) TW5 is being build from the inside out -- technical architecture first, then getting the fiddly inside bits right, then the nice friendly bits will come on after. So I think it's okay for it to be unfriendly now, where it expects you to twist some metaphorical wires together to switch things on and off. My expectation is that in the near future, the (equally metaphorical) nice carbon fibre panels and the dashboard with switches and dials gets added, and there will be a much more pleasant Initial Experience. If anything, the thing that's trickiest is that tiddlywiki.com goes to tw5 and not the prior tw version. ;Daniel On 6 August 2014 11:33, Elizabeth Blythe parav...@gmail.com wrote: I just want to say thank you for all of the help. I also want to express that, while I honor the work that went into this - gosh, thank you for creating a project flexible, for free, for anyone walking along with an internet connection - I'm disappointed with some of the design choices in TW5. The thing I loved about TiddlyWiki to start off with was that it was in plain English, you didn't need to know how the wiki worked to tailor pretty much every aspect of it, you needed very little information about its structure (there were enough crumbs within the wiki itself to figure out or find anything you didn't know) within past TiddlyWikis that they had a lot of utility for non-tech people. I've been chipping away at TW5 for about four days now and have barely figured out how tags work. The documentation I'm reading doesn't really seem to help me figure out what I want to know, the TiddlyWiki itself reads like Greek, and I'm seriously worried that I will be unable to use TW5 for the project I had in mind. TW5 seems to have moved away from being a layman's highly configurable and transportable notebook - now, I need to find and use special characters, figure out where those things are and how they work, and actually get a help websites and group support to tell me how to do things... on the past TiddlyWikis that I used, I was up and running with really complex work in maybe thirty minutes at the outside, and I never had to join a community to get help. It let me focus on what I was using the wiki for, not have to learn how to use the wiki. Maybe I'm too impatient or something, I don't know, but I think TiddlyWiki5 went way right field of what made it appealing to the average Joe in the first place. It's a shame that IE, Firefox and Chrome these days seem to hate my older version of TiddlyWiki, so I can't use that either. Please understand that I don't mean any of the above to be intentionally nasty or over-critical; I just wanted to raise the point constructively for consideration. Like I said, I deeply appreciate the work that's gone into this, and that I even had the option of using TiddlyWiki. Thank you, - Elizabeth On Sunday, August 3, 2014 11:14:12 PM UTC+10, Ton Gerner wrote: Hi Elizabeth, Have a look at [1] Cheers, Ton [1] http://tw5custom.tiddlyspot.com/ On Sunday, August 3, 2014 1:38:29 PM UTC+2, Jeremy Ruston wrote: Hi Elizabeth There's a list of system tags here: http://tiddlywiki.com/#SystemTags Best wishes Jeremy On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Elizabeth Blythe para...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you, Richard! Is there a comprehensive list of system tags and what they do somewhere? Once again, thank you! On Sunday, August 3, 2014 4:47:58 PM UTC+10, Richard Smith wrote: Hi, You can add a tab to the sidebar by making a new Tiddler, eg; Table of Contents and giving it the tag $:/tags/SideBar. Regards, Richard On Sunday, August 3, 2014 10:13:37 AM UTC+10, Elizabeth Blythe wrote: Greetings, I used to use an older version of TiddlyWiki, so I'm used to being able to define what goes into the navigation links (which are now on the right). I can't imagine this functionality has been removed... but I can't seem to find any HowTos on the website that tell me how to do this in the newest version of TiddlyWiki (or even TiddlyWiki Classic). It is most likely a language barrier because there's a lot of jaron and content to search through... anyway. I've spent last night and tonight trying to figure out how to modify the navigation topics to insert the header, then sub navigation points I want. How do I do that? Is it no longer contained in a special system tiddler? Thanks for the help! - Elizabeth -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddl...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Jeremy Ruston
[tw] Re: NEWBIE Questions: How to modify/set up a navigation?
Hi, You can add a tab to the sidebar by making a new Tiddler, eg; Table of Contents and giving it the tag $:/tags/SideBar. Regards, Richard On Sunday, August 3, 2014 10:13:37 AM UTC+10, Elizabeth Blythe wrote: Greetings, I used to use an older version of TiddlyWiki, so I'm used to being able to define what goes into the navigation links (which are now on the right). I can't imagine this functionality has been removed... but I can't seem to find any HowTos on the website that tell me how to do this in the newest version of TiddlyWiki (or even TiddlyWiki Classic). It is most likely a language barrier because there's a lot of jaron and content to search through... anyway. I've spent last night and tonight trying to figure out how to modify the navigation topics to insert the header, then sub navigation points I want. How do I do that? Is it no longer contained in a special system tiddler? Thanks for the help! - Elizabeth -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: NEWBIE Questions: How to modify/set up a navigation?
Thank you, Richard! Is there a comprehensive list of system tags and what they do somewhere? Once again, thank you! On Sunday, August 3, 2014 4:47:58 PM UTC+10, Richard Smith wrote: Hi, You can add a tab to the sidebar by making a new Tiddler, eg; Table of Contents and giving it the tag $:/tags/SideBar. Regards, Richard On Sunday, August 3, 2014 10:13:37 AM UTC+10, Elizabeth Blythe wrote: Greetings, I used to use an older version of TiddlyWiki, so I'm used to being able to define what goes into the navigation links (which are now on the right). I can't imagine this functionality has been removed... but I can't seem to find any HowTos on the website that tell me how to do this in the newest version of TiddlyWiki (or even TiddlyWiki Classic). It is most likely a language barrier because there's a lot of jaron and content to search through... anyway. I've spent last night and tonight trying to figure out how to modify the navigation topics to insert the header, then sub navigation points I want. How do I do that? Is it no longer contained in a special system tiddler? Thanks for the help! - Elizabeth -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [tw] Re: NEWBIE Questions: How to modify/set up a navigation?
Hi Elizabeth There's a list of system tags here: http://tiddlywiki.com/#SystemTags Best wishes Jeremy On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Elizabeth Blythe parav...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you, Richard! Is there a comprehensive list of system tags and what they do somewhere? Once again, thank you! On Sunday, August 3, 2014 4:47:58 PM UTC+10, Richard Smith wrote: Hi, You can add a tab to the sidebar by making a new Tiddler, eg; Table of Contents and giving it the tag $:/tags/SideBar. Regards, Richard On Sunday, August 3, 2014 10:13:37 AM UTC+10, Elizabeth Blythe wrote: Greetings, I used to use an older version of TiddlyWiki, so I'm used to being able to define what goes into the navigation links (which are now on the right). I can't imagine this functionality has been removed... but I can't seem to find any HowTos on the website that tell me how to do this in the newest version of TiddlyWiki (or even TiddlyWiki Classic). It is most likely a language barrier because there's a lot of jaron and content to search through... anyway. I've spent last night and tonight trying to figure out how to modify the navigation topics to insert the header, then sub navigation points I want. How do I do that? Is it no longer contained in a special system tiddler? Thanks for the help! - Elizabeth -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Jeremy Ruston mailto:jeremy.rus...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [tw] Re: NEWBIE Questions: How to modify/set up a navigation?
Hi Jeremy, Thank you for that. It's not precisely what I'm looking for however... I guess I want something with more meat that says 'how to use these system tags'. Also, the sidebar tag seems to put the title of the tiddler into the navigation to the right, but doesn't seem to be a way to add another navigation category? I'm looking for something like the MainMenu tiddler used to be, or to be able to add a navigation tab like Contents on the default wiki (which isn't in the empty wiki). Once again, I appreciate your help. Thank you for making a superb product and taking the time to help me re-learn how to use it. Warm regards, Elizabeth On Sunday, August 3, 2014 9:38:29 PM UTC+10, Jeremy Ruston wrote: Hi Elizabeth There's a list of system tags here: http://tiddlywiki.com/#SystemTags Best wishes Jeremy On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Elizabeth Blythe para...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Thank you, Richard! Is there a comprehensive list of system tags and what they do somewhere? Once again, thank you! On Sunday, August 3, 2014 4:47:58 PM UTC+10, Richard Smith wrote: Hi, You can add a tab to the sidebar by making a new Tiddler, eg; Table of Contents and giving it the tag $:/tags/SideBar. Regards, Richard On Sunday, August 3, 2014 10:13:37 AM UTC+10, Elizabeth Blythe wrote: Greetings, I used to use an older version of TiddlyWiki, so I'm used to being able to define what goes into the navigation links (which are now on the right). I can't imagine this functionality has been removed... but I can't seem to find any HowTos on the website that tell me how to do this in the newest version of TiddlyWiki (or even TiddlyWiki Classic). It is most likely a language barrier because there's a lot of jaron and content to search through... anyway. I've spent last night and tonight trying to figure out how to modify the navigation topics to insert the header, then sub navigation points I want. How do I do that? Is it no longer contained in a special system tiddler? Thanks for the help! - Elizabeth -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to tiddl...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Jeremy Ruston mailto:jeremy...@gmail.com javascript: -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [tw] Re: NEWBIE Questions: How to modify/set up a navigation?
Hi Elizabeth, Have a look at [1] Cheers, Ton [1] http://tw5custom.tiddlyspot.com/ On Sunday, August 3, 2014 1:38:29 PM UTC+2, Jeremy Ruston wrote: Hi Elizabeth There's a list of system tags here: http://tiddlywiki.com/#SystemTags Best wishes Jeremy On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Elizabeth Blythe para...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Thank you, Richard! Is there a comprehensive list of system tags and what they do somewhere? Once again, thank you! On Sunday, August 3, 2014 4:47:58 PM UTC+10, Richard Smith wrote: Hi, You can add a tab to the sidebar by making a new Tiddler, eg; Table of Contents and giving it the tag $:/tags/SideBar. Regards, Richard On Sunday, August 3, 2014 10:13:37 AM UTC+10, Elizabeth Blythe wrote: Greetings, I used to use an older version of TiddlyWiki, so I'm used to being able to define what goes into the navigation links (which are now on the right). I can't imagine this functionality has been removed... but I can't seem to find any HowTos on the website that tell me how to do this in the newest version of TiddlyWiki (or even TiddlyWiki Classic). It is most likely a language barrier because there's a lot of jaron and content to search through... anyway. I've spent last night and tonight trying to figure out how to modify the navigation topics to insert the header, then sub navigation points I want. How do I do that? Is it no longer contained in a special system tiddler? Thanks for the help! - Elizabeth -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to tiddl...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Jeremy Ruston mailto:jeremy...@gmail.com javascript: -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Got it - thank you. Multiple tabs or home pages that open when FF opens. On Wednesday, July 23, 2014 8:33:42 PM UTC-4, PMario wrote: On Thursday, July 24, 2014 1:07:49 AM UTC+2, ung...@gmail.com wrote: Not sure I understand you can pin any tab in firefox, but I think I can learn that later. If you right click a tab in FF you have the possibility to pin the tab. So it will be automatically opened, everytime you open the browser. -m -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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I can open my HOME PAGE from TWC, and the FF add-in seems to save - but when I restart FF the original File loads and not the updated one. If I click on the file in the directory that was my HOME PAGE, the most recently saved version loads. There appear then to be multiple versions of my HOME PAGE but only the single html file in the original directory. I do not uunderstand this. On Wednesday, July 23, 2014 7:07:49 PM UTC-4, ung...@gmail.com wrote: I started over again this evening - there were no specific download instructions for Windows 8.1 so I Downloaded an empty page. I moved that page from Downoads to a new folder and then opened that file from FireFox. That worked and I checked that I could use the Firefox add-in for changes and I also set my homepage to the empy.html now callr My Tiddly. All this appears to work fine. I avoided the zip file since it had a .tar file in it and I did not think that was appropriate for Windows 8.1. Anyway, it seems to be working now. Thank you. Not sure I understand you can pin any tab in firefox, but I think I can learn that later. On Tuesday, July 22, 2014 9:07:05 PM UTC-4, PMario wrote: If you download TW classic, it downloads a zip container. You need to unzip the stuff first, into a directory The browser save as function doesn't work. You need to use the button. -mario -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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I think I fixed my home page problem - just needed to ensure that only the html file name was in the Home Page definition. On Friday, July 25, 2014 7:48:09 PM UTC-4, ung...@gmail.com wrote: I can open my HOME PAGE from TWC, and the FF add-in seems to save - but when I restart FF the original File loads and not the updated one. If I click on the file in the directory that was my HOME PAGE, the most recently saved version loads. There appear then to be multiple versions of my HOME PAGE but only the single html file in the original directory. I do not uunderstand this. On Wednesday, July 23, 2014 7:07:49 PM UTC-4, ung...@gmail.com wrote: I started over again this evening - there were no specific download instructions for Windows 8.1 so I Downloaded an empty page. I moved that page from Downoads to a new folder and then opened that file from FireFox. That worked and I checked that I could use the Firefox add-in for changes and I also set my homepage to the empy.html now callr My Tiddly. All this appears to work fine. I avoided the zip file since it had a .tar file in it and I did not think that was appropriate for Windows 8.1. Anyway, it seems to be working now. Thank you. Not sure I understand you can pin any tab in firefox, but I think I can learn that later. On Tuesday, July 22, 2014 9:07:05 PM UTC-4, PMario wrote: If you download TW classic, it downloads a zip container. You need to unzip the stuff first, into a directory The browser save as function doesn't work. You need to use the button. -mario -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: NEWBIE Questions
I started over again this evening - there were no specific download instructions for Windows 8.1 so I Downloaded an empty page. I moved that page from Downoads to a new folder and then opened that file from FireFox. That worked and I checked that I could use the Firefox add-in for changes and I also set my homepage to the empy.html now callr My Tiddly. All this appears to work fine. I avoided the zip file since it had a .tar file in it and I did not think that was appropriate for Windows 8.1. Anyway, it seems to be working now. Thank you. Not sure I understand you can pin any tab in firefox, but I think I can learn that later. On Tuesday, July 22, 2014 9:07:05 PM UTC-4, PMario wrote: If you download TW classic, it downloads a zip container. You need to unzip the stuff first, into a directory The browser save as function doesn't work. You need to use the button. -mario -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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On Wednesday, July 23, 2014 4:07:49 PM UTC-7, ung...@gmail.com wrote: ... I avoided the zip file since it had a .tar file in it and I did not think that was appropriate for Windows 8.1. The .zip file contains empty.html and TiddlySaver.jar (not .tar). This file is a compiled, signed Java applet that provides secure local file I/O support for users of some webkit-based browsers. This is is similar to the use of the TiddlyFox plugin for FireFox, but works with Chrome, Safari, Opera and others. Just place the TiddlySaver.jar file in the same directory as your TiddlyWiki Classic documents and you should be able to load/edit/save using any of the above browsers. enjoy, -e Eric Shulman TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios YOUR DONATIONS ARE VERY IMPORTANT! HELP ME TO HELP YOU - MAKE A CONTRIBUTION TO MY TIP JAR... http://TiddlyTools.github.com/fundraising.html#MakeADonation Professional TiddlyWiki Consulting Services... Analysis, Design, and Custom Solutions: http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#Contact -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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On Thursday, July 24, 2014 1:07:49 AM UTC+2, ung...@gmail.com wrote: Not sure I understand you can pin any tab in firefox, but I think I can learn that later. If you right click a tab in FF you have the possibility to pin the tab. So it will be automatically opened, everytime you open the browser. -m -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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On Wednesday, July 23, 2014 2:45:28 AM UTC+2, ung...@gmail.com wrote: Is there a place for newbies to go for basic questions? Hi, You found the right place :) I would like my Browser to go to my (single) tiddlywiki as a home page - but I am not sure where it is and if I should rename the file. You just need to download an empty TW. Place it somewhere and define it at your homepage in the browser settings. imo renaming would make sense. With FireFox you can pin any tab, so if you open the browser, they will be loaded. -mario -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: NEWBIE Questions
While I can see the various new files in my history - it tells me files not found - possibly moved or deleted. I am running Windows 8.1 and TWC On Tuesday, July 22, 2014 8:45:28 PM UTC-4, ung...@gmail.com wrote: Is there a place for newbies to go for basic questions? I would like my Browser to go to my (single) tiddlywiki as a home page - but I am not sure where it is and if I should rename the file. Thank you. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Re: NEWBIE Questions
If you download TW classic, it downloads a zip container. You need to unzip the stuff first, into a directory The browser save as function doesn't work. You need to use the button. -mario -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
