FW: [TMIC] Artist w TM in New York times
Speaking as one WITH TM, and not as a caregiver, I find it much easier to understand where this man might have been coming from. It is very possible that the evening might have literally taken every ounce of his inner strength to get through and was truly done. Nothing more to give. If there is anyone on the list who suffers with TM who has not felt the exhaustion that drains literally everything out of you..at least just once.then you are lucky. Perhaps it took everything this man had just to do what he had to that night. We all push ourselves to one degree or another. We HAVE to. That's how we get through each and every day with TM. Perhaps his push was much harder that day than ours. Let's give him the benefit of the doubt and not be so critical of this man. -Original Message- From: bobby jim [mailto:elbobber...@earthlink.net] Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 9:11 PM To: T Kanon; Akua Cc: tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [TMIC] Artist w TM in New York times Inasmuch as am an artist myself and also caregiver to my wife with MS I can understand Shonibare's 'rudeness' but ne'rda'less I find it a bit harsh. With or without a disability, as an artist he is at the mercies of a very fickle public. Maybe he just doesn't give a hoot. Bobberino From: T Kanon mailto:sseco...@yahoo.com To: Akua mailto:a...@artfarm.com Cc: tmic-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 4:58 PM Subject: Re: [TMIC] Artist w TM in New York times Last night was the opening of this artist's exhibit at the Brooklyn Museum and I attended. Two people helped him walk down the aisle and onto the stage. It looked as if his hands were affected too. After the lecture I saw him in his wheelchair being taken to a limo. I went over to him and asked if indeed he had TM. He didn't even look at me and just said I'm done. A guard said he is very tired. I know he was tired but he was also very rude!!! Tobe Brooklyn NY --- On Wed, 6/24/09, Akua a...@artfarm.com wrote: From: Akua a...@artfarm.com Subject: [TMIC] Artist w TM in New York times To: tmic-list@eskimo.com Date: Wednesday, June 24, 2009, 9:42 PM very interesting article on interesting artist who had...transverse myelitis. and was paralyzed. but no longer is.. regained ability to walk after three years in a wheelchair http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/21/arts/design/21sont.html?_r=1 http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/21/arts/design/21sont.html?_r=1scp=1sq =shonibarest=cse scp=1sq=shonibarest=cse --
Re: [TMIC] Sex
Wim, I realize that you being a man and me being a woman, we may be coming from different directions on this topic. But, I agree with you 100% that the love that is fostered before TM will carry you through the devastation of TM.That being said, there are some really self-centered people in this married world that seem perfectly happy until something like TM happens, and then the selfishness comes out. If those struck with TM don't push the partner away out of anger and bitterness, and the healthy partner is not of the selfish variety, the marriage has a chance to really be enhanced. As you said, there are many ways to show love and affection, sex being only one of them. Janice - Original Message - From: wim from holland To: bgunny7...@aol.com ; TMIC Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 7:55 AM Subject: RE: [TMIC] Sex It is good now and then to pick up this subject again. All growen up people and we have all to deal with it. Nobody is an exeption in that, to talk about it is just like subject like 'going to the toilet'. Nobody seen you doing it, but verery body knows and understands it happens. My TM is between t6 - t10. You can say threre is no sex at all. Tm struck me at the age of 43, lucky we had 3 kids already. From that period on ( 6 month before) sex became more and more a problem and from the day of TM there was none. Because of the spasme I had du the temp differences, nice laying against to each other was also not possible, after a minut my legs started to spasm and I was kicking her. After a while also the lust was gone. Sometimes I forsed my self to concentrate on it, but it ended with thinking on shopping lists and bills I had to pay. Lucky for me, my wife had seen that the love was still the same, but only the sex part was gone, we had both our tears about that. Now 12 years later we are still married, show our love in many ways to each other ( don't forget that part). Kids are all out of the house and we can do what we like, within all restricktions of the TM. The not understanding part of the outside world hits us harder as what we made out of it. Wim from Holland. -- From: bgunny7...@aol.com Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 10:02:40 -0400 To: Tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: [TMIC] Sex Some Interesting points have been brought up in this discussion, so I'm gonna chime in. Understand, I'm only speaking for myself, but there may be some points to ponder here. Ok, when I first got married again, and she came to Ohio, things went well the first night we were together, but, after I got to see her demeanor and attitude, things went quickly down the tubes. It didn't take long for her to tell me she hated me, and wished I was dead. I suppose part of that was because I forced her to go to work. In any case, with me, not all men, physical attraction was the main purpose to get involved. One needs to take time to find out what kind of person lives inside the one you want to tie up with, and, is that the same person that's projected to the world, or are they different? Are they one person at home, and another to the outside world. If so, then that's a phoney. Since this wonderful probelm of TM has so graciously decided to rule my life, I've begun to see that looks don't mean a helluva lot. Oh, not the physicality doesn't matter, but it shouldn't be uppermost. In your youth, maybe, but as you age, you take on a different outlook. I know for myself, attitude plays a big role. If your a weasel of a person, nothings gonna happen, no matter how hard I try, or what pill I take. If, and if, I feel the desire, and your receptive, possibly. Also, age plays a role in this. I find the oder I get, the less desire I have. As far as feelings go, meaning sensation, if my partner has diminished sensation, I'll do what it takes to try and get some back. It's like, if you don't use it, you lose it syndrome. Maybe that'll work, maybe it wont, but, if you have feelings for you partner, you'll at least try. Men have a way of thinking, well, I can't feel anything or if you can't feel anything, what's the use. Oh yeah, what about at least giving it a shot. Your mind may come into play here in that, you remember what it was like, maybe it'll be that way again. But, if you don't try. you'll never know. One thing I've found out through my trek in life is, men need to know they're needed, and women need to know they're loved. If those two needs are met, the rest should fall into place. If you love each other, then damnit, show it. It's never too late to experiment. Take those old tapes that are playing in your mind, instilled by parents who say, certain sexual techniques if you will, are taboo, and throw em in the shit can. There's nothing taboo about loving someone, and showing them that you do. I gotta do more thinking on
[TMIC]
I was just thinking the last few days of all of the responses from TM'ers that are artistic. There are quite a few of you. You seem to have a varied interest in the arts and are still doing your thing.Coming from one who has absolutely no artistic ability, I really respect what you all do. I have always appreciated the arts (all forms), just was only able to appreciate it from afar. Thanks for what you donate to pretty up the world! Janice
Re: [TMIC] Facebook Page
LOL...I love it..I am playing three games that are so addicting that I forget that I have email I need to be reading.. Now when folks wonder why the list is slow, they should go to facebook and check out Farm Town. That must be where everyone disappears sometimes. - Original Message - From: bradebi To: Akua ; tmic-list@eskimo.com ; Jim Lubin Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 3:29 PM Subject: Re: [TMIC] Facebook Page I am too!!!...I love Farm Town!.I am taking a break... .I am into building my Zoo right now..it is addicting too!. Debi ---Original Message--- From: Jim Lubin Date: 6/25/2009 7:37:10 PM To: Akua; tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [TMIC] Facebook Page there are several TM-ADEM-NMO groups on Facebook, most are linked here http://www.myelitis.org/support.htm Jim (who has become addicted to the Farm Town game on Facebook) At 06:43 PM 6/24/2009, Akua wrote: I'm digging Facebook--- what about creating a fan page. -- Jim Lubin jlu...@eskimo.com http://makoa.org/jim disAbility Resources: http://www.makoa.org Spiral_notebook.jpg
RE: [TMIC] Sex
Very well put, Wim. Thank you for sharing..Jeanne ---Original Message--- From: wim from holland Date: 6/28/2009 7:55:28 AM To: bgunny7...@aol.com; TMIC Subject: RE: [TMIC] Sex It is good now and then to pick up this subject again. All growen up people and we have all to deal with it. Nobody is an exeption in that, to talk about it is just like subject like 'going to the toilet'. Nobody seen you doing it, but verery body knows and understands it happens. My TM is between t6 - t10. You can say threre is no sex at all. Tm struck me at the age of 43, lucky we had 3 kids already. From that period on ( 6 month before) sex became more and more a problem and from the day of TM there was none. Because of the spasme I had du the temp differences, nice laying against to each other was also not possible, after a minut my legs started to spasm and I was kicking her. After a while also the lust was gone. Sometimes I forsed my self to concentrate on it, but it ended with thinking on shopping lists and bills I had to pay. Lucky for me, my wife had seen that the love was still the same, but only the sex part was gone, we had both our tears about that. Now 12 years later we are still married, show our love in many ways to each other ( don't forget that part). Kids are all out of the house and we can do what we like, within all restricktions of the TM. The not understanding part of the outside world hits us harder as what we made out of it. Wim from Holland. From: bgunny7...@aol.com Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 10:02:40 -0400 To: Tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: [TMIC] Sex Some Interesting points have been brought up in this discussion, so I'm gonna chime in. Understand, I'm only speaking for myself, but there may be some points to ponder here. Ok, when I first got married again, and she came to Ohio, things went well the first night we were together, but, after I got to see her demeanor and attitude, things went quickly down the tubes. It didn't take long for her to tell me she hated me, and wished I was dead. I suppose part of that was because I forced her to go to work. In any case, with me, not all men, physical attraction was the main purpose to get involved. One needs to take time to find out what kind of person lives inside the one you want to tie up with, and, is that the same person that's projected to the world, or are they different? Are they one person at home, and another to the outside world. If so, then that's a phoney. Since this wonderful probelm of TM has so graciously decided to rule my life, I've begun to see that looks don't mean a helluva lot. Oh, not the physicality doesn't matter, but it shouldn't be uppermost. In your youth, maybe, but as you age, you take on a different outlook. I know for myself, attitude plays a big role. If your a weasel of a person, nothings gonna happen, no matter how hard I try, or what pill I take. If, and if, I feel the desire, and your receptive, possibly. Also, age plays a role in this. I find the oder I get, the less desire I have. As far as feelings go, meaning sensation, if my partner has diminished sensation, I'll do what it takes to try and get some back. It's like, if you don't use it, you lose it syndrome. Maybe that'll work, maybe it wont, but, if you have feelings for you partner, you'll at least try. Men have a way of thinking, well, I can't feel anything or if you can't feel anything, what's the use. Oh yeah, what about at least giving it a shot. Your mind may come into play here in that, you remember what it was like, maybe it'll be that way again. But, if you don't try. you'll never know. One thing I've found out through my trek in life is, men need to know they're needed, and women need to know they're loved. If those two needs are met, the rest should fall into place. If you love each other, then damnit, show it. It's never too late to experiment. Take those old tapes that are playing in your mind, instilled by parents who say, certain sexual techniques if you will, are taboo, and throw em in the shit can. There's nothing taboo about loving someone, and showing them that you do. I gotta do more thinking on this matter, but these are the thoughts that have been running through my mind since this subject came up. Shop Popular Dell Laptops now starting at $349! Heb jij de nieuwe Messenger nog niet?! Download 'm hier 01_tile.jpg01_side.gif
[TMIC] Creating
Dear Janice, I believe that everyone has a creative ability and those that say they have none, just haven't found their medium/genre/mode of expression yet. As a child I did everything I do now -- and more,truth be told. In between then and now there were things I dropped/stopped/left. The only things I've done continuously was write and sing. I stopped dancing, instrument playing, and visual artmaking for years. When my mother died in 1996, my grief left me dumbstruck and I started working with hot glass and making paper. So I believe that at any time something may arrive to open that door to some new creative possibility. Joy in the making, Akua (who is mourning the death of Michael Jackson) I was just thinking the last few days of all of the responses from TM'ers that are artistic. There are quite a few of you. You seem to have a varied interest in the arts and are still doing your thing.Coming from one who has absolutely no artistic ability, I really respect what you all do. I have always appreciated the arts (all forms), just was only able to appreciate it from afar. Thanks for what you donate to pretty up the world! Janice --
Re: [TMIC] Transverse Myelitis Network
That won't happen again. We do enjoy reading ALL of your e-mails. I'm sadden that I'm unable to answer a few of your e-mails because of how TM has hit you. But, you are right that this site doesn't have many quads, like you Jim. I'm amazed at ALL of your's e-mails. What it must take just to write an e-mails. Both of you DO write wonderful long e-mails. I do treasure each everyone of your e-mails. I have trouble keeping up with this site, more power to you to do more than one sit. Just know ya'll do have a FAN, Todd in Corpus Christi, TX --- On Wed, 6/17/09, ladyno...@aol.com ladyno...@aol.com wrote: From: ladyno...@aol.com ladyno...@aol.com Subject: Re: [TMIC] Transverse Myelitis Network To: heyjude48...@aol.com, tmic-list@eskimo.com Date: Wednesday, June 17, 2009, 12:03 PM Jude, First of all, I never said I PREFER the paraplegic/quadriplegic site. I said I IDENTIFY more. I feel as though I offended you by saying this. There are issues and concerns of being a quad they are not addressed in the TM site and I would imagine it's because most people on this site are not quadriplegics. I go where I can find the information that helps me. If I did not want to be on this site, I could simply delete it from my contacts. There is nothing holding me back. I have asked questions on here regarding autonomic dysflexia, only to have no one respond. Because I later found out that it's a medical condition for quadriplegics, so I went to the paraplegic/quadriplegic site to get the answers I needed. I'm sure Jim uses these sites, HE CREATED THEM! Where is his hostility?? He knew that there would be a need for additional information, and that's all it is, is additional information. I have been a member of this site, since I came home from the hospital in 2006, but I am always looking for any and all information that could be of help to me (as I'm sure all of us would be). There are people that use this site that are also members on the Yahoo Transverse Myelitis site. Should they just pick one or the other. I have met many people through this site, one who has become my best friend who has TM. I would not trade that for anything, but your e-mail makes me feel as though I am unwelcomed or a traitor of sorts. This brings me to tears. As I have poured my heart out on this site (reluctant to make my personal problems public), but felt comfortable enough to share with others who are, also suffering with relationship problems, pain and depression. That won't happen again. -Original Message- From: heyjude48...@aol.com To: ladyno...@aol.com Sent: Wed, Jun 17, 2009 4:26 am Subject: Re: [TMIC] Transverse Myelitis Network Then what is holding you back? Why don't you simply quit this site and use the other one that you say you prefer? What's the big deal? Jude In a message dated 6/15/2009 2:11:29 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ladyno...@aol.com writes: I am also a member of the paraplegic/quadriplegic website that Jim has started. Although I have TM, which left me a quadriplegic, I identify more with the members of the paraplegic quadriplegic site then with the members of the TM site. Naomi C-4 Quadriplegic, since July 2, 2005 Due to Transverse Myelitis An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! Download the AOL Classifieds Toolbar for local deals at your fingertips. Dell Days of Deals! June 15-24 - A New Deal Everyday!
Re: [TMIC] Transverse Myelitis Network
I wish you people would learn to use BCC! That means that there is only one address showing not a whole bunch - Original Message - From: Todd Tarno To: ladyno...@aol.com Cc: TMIC Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 3:25 PM Subject: Re: [TMIC] Transverse Myelitis Network That won't happen again. We do enjoy reading ALL of your e-mails. I'm sadden that I'm unable to answer a few of your e-mails because of how TM has hit you. But, you are right that this site doesn't have many quads, like you Jim. I'm amazed at ALL of your's e-mails. What it must take just to write an e-mails. Both of you DO write wonderful long e-mails. I do treasure each everyone of your e-mails. I have trouble keeping up with this site, more power to you to do more than one sit. Just know ya'll do have a FAN, Todd in Corpus Christi, TX --- On Wed, 6/17/09, ladyno...@aol.com ladyno...@aol.com wrote: From: ladyno...@aol.com ladyno...@aol.com Subject: Re: [TMIC] Transverse Myelitis Network To: heyjude48...@aol.com, tmic-list@eskimo.com Date: Wednesday, June 17, 2009, 12:03 PM Jude, First of all, I never said I PREFER the paraplegic/quadriplegic site. I said I IDENTIFY more. I feel as though I offended you by saying this. There are issues and concerns of being a quad they are not addressed in the TM site and I would imagine it's because most people on this site are not quadriplegics. I go where I can find the information that helps me. If I did not want to be on this site, I could simply delete it from my contacts. There is nothing holding me back. I have asked questions on here regarding autonomic dysflexia, only to have no one respond. Because I later found out that it's a medical condition for quadriplegics, so I went to the paraplegic/quadriplegic site to get the answers I needed. I'm sure Jim uses these sites, HE CREATED THEM! Where is his hostility?? He knew that there would be a need for additional information, and that's all it is, is additional information. I have been a member of this site, since I came home from the hospital in 2006, but I am always looking for any and all information that could be of help to me (as I'm sure all of us would be). There are people that use this site that are also members on the Yahoo Transverse Myelitis site. Should they just pick one or the other. I have met many people through this site, one who has become my best friend who has TM. I would not trade that for anything, but your e-mail makes me feel as though I am unwelcomed or a traitor of sorts. This brings me to tears. As I have poured my heart out on this site (reluctant to make my personal problems public), but felt comfortable enough to share with others who are, also suffering with relationship problems, pain and depression. That won't happen again. -Original Message- From: heyjude48...@aol.com To: ladyno...@aol.com Sent: Wed, Jun 17, 2009 4:26 am Subject: Re: [TMIC] Transverse Myelitis Network Then what is holding you back? Why don't you simply quit this site and use the other one that you say you prefer? What's the big deal? Jude In a message dated 6/15/2009 2:11:29 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ladyno...@aol.com writes: I am also a member of the paraplegic/quadriplegic website that Jim has started. Although I have TM, which left me a quadriplegic, I identify more with the members of the paraplegic quadriplegic site then with the members of the TM site. Naomi C-4 Quadriplegic, since July 2, 2005 Due to Transverse Myelitis -- An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! -- Download the AOL Classifieds Toolbar for local deals at your fingertips. -- Dell Days of Deals! June 15-24 - A New Deal Everyday!
RE: [TMIC] Transverse Myelitis Network
If reading a bunch of addresses was the worst thing that happened to me this year, I would really consider myself blessed! From: Dex Packard [mailto:d...@centurytel.net] Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 7:11 PM To: Todd Tarno; ladyno...@aol.com Cc: TMIC Subject: Re: [TMIC] Transverse Myelitis Network I wish you people would learn to use BCC! That means that there is only one address showing not a whole bunch - Original Message - From: Todd Tarno mailto:toddtm2...@sbcglobal.net To: ladyno...@aol.com Cc: TMIC mailto:tmic-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 3:25 PM Subject: Re: [TMIC] Transverse Myelitis Network That won't happen again. We do enjoy reading ALL of your e-mails. I'm sadden that I'm unable to answer a few of your e-mails because of how TM has hit you. But, you are right that this site doesn't have many quads, like you Jim. I'm amazed at ALL of your's e-mails. What it must take just to write an e-mails. Both of you DO write wonderful long e-mails. I do treasure each everyone of your e-mails. I have trouble keeping up with this site, more power to you to do more than one sit. Just know ya'll do have a FAN, Todd in Corpus Christi, TX --- On Wed, 6/17/09, ladyno...@aol.com ladyno...@aol.com wrote: From: ladyno...@aol.com ladyno...@aol.com Subject: Re: [TMIC] Transverse Myelitis Network To: heyjude48...@aol.com, tmic-list@eskimo.com Date: Wednesday, June 17, 2009, 12:03 PM Jude, First of all, I never said I PREFER the paraplegic/quadriplegic site. I said I IDENTIFY more. I feel as though I offended you by saying this. There are issues and concerns of being a quad they are not addressed in the TM site and I would imagine it's because most people on this site are not quadriplegics. I go where I can find the information that helps me. If I did not want to be on this site, I could simply delete it from my contacts. There is nothing holding me back. I have asked questions on here regarding autonomic dysflexia, only to have no one respond. Because I later found out that it's a medical condition for quadriplegics, so I went to the paraplegic/quadriplegic site to get the answers I needed. I'm sure Jim uses these sites, HE CREATED THEM! Where is his hostility?? He knew that there would be a need for additional information, and that's all it is, is additional information. I have been a member of this site, since I came home from the hospital in 2006, but I am always looking for any and all information that could be of help to me (as I'm sure all of us would be). There are people that use this site that are also members on the Yahoo Transverse Myelitis site. Should they just pick one or the other. I have met many people through this site, one who has become my best friend who has TM. I would not trade that for anything, but your e-mail makes me feel as though I am unwelcomed or a traitor of sorts. This brings me to tears. As I have poured my heart out on this site (reluctant to make my personal problems public), but felt comfortable enough to share with others who are, also suffering with relationship problems, pain and depression. That won't happen again. -Original Message- From: heyjude48...@aol.com To: ladyno...@aol.com Sent: Wed, Jun 17, 2009 4:26 am Subject: Re: [TMIC] Transverse Myelitis Network Then what is holding you back? Why don't you simply quit this site and use the other one that you say you prefer? What's the big deal? Jude In a message dated 6/15/2009 2:11:29 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ladyno...@aol.com http://us.mc822.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ladyno...@aol.com writes: I am also a member of the paraplegic/quadriplegic website that Jim has started. Although I have TM, which left me a quadriplegic, I identify more with the members of the paraplegic quadriplegic site then with the members of the TM site. Naomi C-4 Quadriplegic, since July 2, 2005 Due to Transverse Myelitis _ An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221322979x1201367215/aol?redir=htt p://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=Jun eExcfooterNO62 Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! _ Download the AOL Classifieds Toolbar http://toolbar.aol.com/aolclassifieds/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00 04 for local deals at your fingertips. _ Dell Days of Deals! June 15-24 - A New Deal Everyday! http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222865043x1201494942/aol?redir=htt p:%2F%2Fad.doubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B215692145%3B38015538%3Bh
Re: [TMIC] Transverse Myelitis Network
Todd' one of the reasons I reclused from this web site is because I had three members of my immediately family die and I needed to deal with funeral homes and I actually had to ask this list for donations and the people that I thought would help, did just did and I don't remember seeing Todd Tarno's name even as much as a salutation. I'm not picking on you but I know this, If you send a e-mail to Jim or anyone else on this list your email will eventually be answered. This is an amazing web site and if you are not satisfied with your business here, you can always go some where else and I guarentee you'll not find as many people who for you, I'm sorry your a quad, and is every one else is too. So please stop gripping because you feel your 2 cents are not heard, because it is heard. and we all love you and your e-mail gets heard. This was Jim dream and he could not be able to manage it on his on. We all keep it working. So be carefull when you insinuate. Your friend Rick Ashford. From: Todd Tarno toddtm2...@sbcglobal.net To: ladyno...@aol.com Cc: TMIC tmic-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 5:25:50 PM Subject: Re: [TMIC] Transverse Myelitis Network That won't happen again. We do enjoy reading ALL of your e-mails. I'm sadden that I'm unable to answer a few of your e-mails because of how TM has hit you. But, you are right that this site doesn't have many quads, like you Jim. I'm amazed at ALL of your's e-mails. What it must take just to write an e-mails. Both of you DO write wonderful long e-mails. I do treasure each everyone of your e-mails. I have trouble keeping up with this site, more power to you to do more than one sit. Just know ya'll do have a FAN, Todd in Corpus Christi, TX --- On Wed, 6/17/09, ladyno...@aol.com ladyno...@aol.com wrote: From: ladyno...@aol.com ladyno...@aol.com Subject: Re: [TMIC] Transverse Myelitis Network To: heyjude48...@aol.com, tmic-list@eskimo.com Date: Wednesday, June 17, 2009, 12:03 PM Jude, First of all, I never said I PREFER the paraplegic/quadriplegic site. I said I IDENTIFY more. I feel as though I offended you by saying this. There are issues and concerns of being a quad they are not addressed in the TM site and I would imagine it's because most people on this site are not quadriplegics. I go where I can find the information that helps me. If I did not want to be on this site, I could simply delete it from my contacts. There is nothing holding me back. I have asked questions on here regarding autonomic dysflexia, only to have no one respond. Because I later found out that it's a medical condition for quadriplegics, so I went to the paraplegic/quadriplegic site to get the answers I needed. I'm sure Jim uses these sites, HE CREATED THEM! Where is his hostility?? He knew that there would be a need for additional information, and that's all it is, is additional information. I have been a member of this site, since I came home from the hospital in 2006, but I am always looking for any and all information that could be of help to me (as I'm sure all of us would be). There are people that use this site that are also members on the Yahoo Transverse Myelitis site. Should they just pick one or the other. I have met many people through this site, one who has become my best friend who has TM. I would not trade that for anything, but your e-mail makes me feel as though I am unwelcomed or a traitor of sorts. This brings me to tears. As I have poured my heart out on this site (reluctant to make my personal problems public), but felt comfortable enough to share with others who are, also suffering with relationship problems, pain and depression. That won't happen again. -Original Message- From: heyjude48...@aol.com To: ladyno...@aol.com Sent: Wed, Jun 17, 2009 4:26 am Subject: Re: [TMIC] Transverse Myelitis Network Then what is holding you back? Why don't you simply quit this site and use the other one that you say you prefer? What's the big deal? Jude In a message dated 6/15/2009 2:11:29 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ladyno...@aol.com writes: I am also a member of the paraplegic/quadriplegic website that Jim has started. Although I have TM, which left me a quadriplegic, I identify more with the members of the paraplegic quadriplegic site then with the members of the TM site. Naomi C-4 Quadriplegic, since July 2, 2005 Due to Transverse Myelitis An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! Download the AOL Classifieds Toolbar for local deals at your fingertips. Dell Days of Deals! June 15-24 - A New Deal Everyday!
Re: [TMIC] Transverse Myelitis Network
Did it ever occur to you that every e-mail address you put in a message can be copied by others? - Original Message - From: Lori Biehler To: 'Dex Packard' ; 'Todd Tarno' ; ladyno...@aol.com Cc: 'TMIC' Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 6:18 PM Subject: RE: [TMIC] Transverse Myelitis Network If reading a bunch of addresses was the worst thing that happened to me this year, I would really consider myself blessed! From: Dex Packard [mailto:d...@centurytel.net] Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 7:11 PM To: Todd Tarno; ladyno...@aol.com Cc: TMIC Subject: Re: [TMIC] Transverse Myelitis Network I wish you people would learn to use BCC! That means that there is only one address showing not a whole bunch - Original Message - From: Todd Tarno To: ladyno...@aol.com Cc: TMIC Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 3:25 PM Subject: Re: [TMIC] Transverse Myelitis Network That won't happen again. We do enjoy reading ALL of your e-mails. I'm sadden that I'm unable to answer a few of your e-mails because of how TM has hit you. But, you are right that this site doesn't have many quads, like you Jim. I'm amazed at ALL of your's e-mails. What it must take just to write an e-mails. Both of you DO write wonderful long e-mails. I do treasure each everyone of your e-mails. I have trouble keeping up with this site, more power to you to do more than one sit. Just know ya'll do have a FAN, Todd in Corpus Christi, TX --- On Wed, 6/17/09, ladyno...@aol.com ladyno...@aol.com wrote: From: ladyno...@aol.com ladyno...@aol.com Subject: Re: [TMIC] Transverse Myelitis Network To: heyjude48...@aol.com, tmic-list@eskimo.com Date: Wednesday, June 17, 2009, 12:03 PM Jude, First of all, I never said I PREFER the paraplegic/quadriplegic site. I said I IDENTIFY more. I feel as though I offended you by saying this. There are issues and concerns of being a quad they are not addressed in the TM site and I would imagine it's because most people on this site are not quadriplegics. I go where I can find the information that helps me. If I did not want to be on this site, I could simply delete it from my contacts. There is nothing holding me back. I have asked questions on here regarding autonomic dysflexia, only to have no one respond. Because I later found out that it's a medical condition for quadriplegics, so I went to the paraplegic/quadriplegic site to get the answers I needed. I'm sure Jim uses these sites, HE CREATED THEM! Where is his hostility?? He knew that there would be a need for additional information, and that's all it is, is additional information. I have been a member of this site, since I came home from the hospital in 2006, but I am always looking for any and all information that could be of help to me (as I'm sure all of us would be). There are people that use this site that are also members on the Yahoo Transverse Myelitis site. Should they just pick one or the other. I have met many people through this site, one who has become my best friend who has TM. I would not trade that for anything, but your e-mail makes me feel as though I am unwelcomed or a traitor of sorts. This brings me to tears. As I have poured my heart out on this site (reluctant to make my personal problems public), but felt comfortable enough to share with others who are, also suffering with relationship problems, pain and depression. That won't happen again. -Original Message- From: heyjude48...@aol.com To: ladyno...@aol.com Sent: Wed, Jun 17, 2009 4:26 am Subject: Re: [TMIC] Transverse Myelitis Network Then what is holding you back? Why don't you simply quit this site and use the other one that you say you prefer? What's the big deal? Jude In a message dated 6/15/2009 2:11:29 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ladyno...@aol.com writes: I am also a member of the paraplegic/quadriplegic website that Jim has started. Although I have TM, which left me a quadriplegic, I identify more with the members of the paraplegic quadriplegic site then with the members of the TM site. Naomi C-4 Quadriplegic, since July 2, 2005 Due to Transverse Myelitis An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! Download the AOL Classifieds Toolbar
RE: [TMIC] Transverse Myelitis Network
Yes I know that, just doesn't seem really important when one deals with really sick people or people reaching out for help. I pick my battles. Enough said. Peace Out! From: Dex Packard [mailto:d...@centurytel.net] Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 9:41 PM To: Lori Biehler; 'Todd Tarno'; ladyno...@aol.com Cc: 'TMIC' Subject: Re: [TMIC] Transverse Myelitis Network Did it ever occur to you that every e-mail address you put in a message can be copied by others? - Original Message - From: Lori Biehler mailto:lbieh...@earthlink.net To: 'Dex Packard' mailto:d...@centurytel.net ; 'Todd mailto:toddtm2...@sbcglobal.net Tarno' ; ladyno...@aol.com Cc: 'TMIC' mailto:tmic-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 6:18 PM Subject: RE: [TMIC] Transverse Myelitis Network If reading a bunch of addresses was the worst thing that happened to me this year, I would really consider myself blessed! From: Dex Packard [mailto:d...@centurytel.net] Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 7:11 PM To: Todd Tarno; ladyno...@aol.com Cc: TMIC Subject: Re: [TMIC] Transverse Myelitis Network I wish you people would learn to use BCC! That means that there is only one address showing not a whole bunch - Original Message - From: Todd Tarno mailto:toddtm2...@sbcglobal.net To: ladyno...@aol.com Cc: TMIC mailto:tmic-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 3:25 PM Subject: Re: [TMIC] Transverse Myelitis Network That won't happen again. We do enjoy reading ALL of your e-mails. I'm sadden that I'm unable to answer a few of your e-mails because of how TM has hit you. But, you are right that this site doesn't have many quads, like you Jim. I'm amazed at ALL of your's e-mails. What it must take just to write an e-mails. Both of you DO write wonderful long e-mails. I do treasure each everyone of your e-mails. I have trouble keeping up with this site, more power to you to do more than one sit. Just know ya'll do have a FAN, Todd in Corpus Christi, TX --- On Wed, 6/17/09, ladyno...@aol.com ladyno...@aol.com wrote: From: ladyno...@aol.com ladyno...@aol.com Subject: Re: [TMIC] Transverse Myelitis Network To: heyjude48...@aol.com, tmic-list@eskimo.com Date: Wednesday, June 17, 2009, 12:03 PM Jude, First of all, I never said I PREFER the paraplegic/quadriplegic site. I said I IDENTIFY more. I feel as though I offended you by saying this. There are issues and concerns of being a quad they are not addressed in the TM site and I would imagine it's because most people on this site are not quadriplegics. I go where I can find the information that helps me. If I did not want to be on this site, I could simply delete it from my contacts. There is nothing holding me back. I have asked questions on here regarding autonomic dysflexia, only to have no one respond. Because I later found out that it's a medical condition for quadriplegics, so I went to the paraplegic/quadriplegic site to get the answers I needed. I'm sure Jim uses these sites, HE CREATED THEM! Where is his hostility?? He knew that there would be a need for additional information, and that's all it is, is additional information. I have been a member of this site, since I came home from the hospital in 2006, but I am always looking for any and all information that could be of help to me (as I'm sure all of us would be). There are people that use this site that are also members on the Yahoo Transverse Myelitis site. Should they just pick one or the other. I have met many people through this site, one who has become my best friend who has TM. I would not trade that for anything, but your e-mail makes me feel as though I am unwelcomed or a traitor of sorts. This brings me to tears. As I have poured my heart out on this site (reluctant to make my personal problems public), but felt comfortable enough to share with others who are, also suffering with relationship problems, pain and depression. That won't happen again. -Original Message- From: heyjude48...@aol.com To: ladyno...@aol.com Sent: Wed, Jun 17, 2009 4:26 am Subject: Re: [TMIC] Transverse Myelitis Network Then what is holding you back? Why don't you simply quit this site and use the other one that you say you prefer? What's the big deal? Jude In a message dated 6/15/2009 2:11:29 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ladyno...@aol.com http://us.mc822.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ladyno...@aol.com writes: I am also a member of the paraplegic/quadriplegic website that Jim has started. Although I have TM, which left me a quadriplegic, I identify more with the members of the paraplegic quadriplegic site then with the members of the TM site. Naomi C-4 Quadriplegic, since July 2, 2005 Due to Transverse Myelitis _ An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221322979x1201367215/aol?redir=htt p://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=Jun eExcfooterNO62 Yours
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Good grief, Rick. Todd was not at all griping or insinuating anything. He wrote a very gracious response to the previous e-mails in this thread. Barbara H. In a message dated 6/28/2009 9:19:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ashfo...@att.net writes: Todd' one of the reasons I reclused from this web site is because I had three members of my immediately family die and I needed to deal with funeral homes and I actually had to ask this list for donations and the people that I thought would help, did just did and I don't remember seeing Todd Tarno's name even as much as a salutation. I'm not picking on you but I know this, If you send a e-mail to Jim or anyone else on this list your email will eventually be answered. This is an amazing web site and if you are not satisfied with your business here, you can always go some where else and I guarentee you'll not find as many people who for you, I'm sorry your a quad, and is every one else is too. So please stop gripping because you feel your 2 cents are not heard, because it is heard. and we all love you and your e-mail gets heard. This was Jim dream and he could not be able to manage it on his on. We all keep it working. So be carefull when you insinuate. Your friend Rick Ashford. From: Todd Tarno toddtm2...@sbcglobal.net To: ladyno...@aol.com Cc: TMIC tmic-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 5:25:50 PM Subject: Re: [TMIC] Transverse Myelitis Network That won't happen again. We do enjoy reading ALL of your e-mails. I'm sadden that I'm unable to answer a few of your e-mails because of how TM has hit you. But, you are right that this site doesn't have many quads, like you Jim. I'm amazed at ALL of your's e-mails. What it must take just to write an e-mails. Both of you DO write wonderful long e-mails. I do treasure each everyone of your e-mails. I have trouble keeping up with this site, more power to you to do more than one sit. Just know ya'll do have a FAN, Todd in Corpus Christi, TX --- On Wed, 6/17/09, ladyno...@aol.com ladyno...@aol.com wrote: From: ladyno...@aol.com ladyno...@aol.com Subject: Re: [TMIC] Transverse Myelitis Network To: heyjude48...@aol.com, tmic-list@eskimo.com Date: Wednesday, June 17, 2009, 12:03 PM Jude, First of all, I never said I PREFER the paraplegic/quadriplegic site. I said I IDENTIFY more. I feel as though I offended you by saying this. There are issues and concerns of being a quad they are not addressed in the TM site and I would imagine it's because most people on this site are not quadriplegics. I go where I can find the information that helps me. If I did not want to be on this site, I could simply delete it from my contacts. There is nothing holding me back. I have asked questions on here regarding autonomic dysflexia, only to have no one respond. Because I later found out that it's a medical condition for quadriplegics, so I went to the paraplegic/quadriplegic site to get the answers I needed. I'm sure Jim uses these sites, HE CREATED THEM! Where is his hostility?? He knew that there would be a need for additional information, and that's all it is, is additional information. I have been a member of this site, since I came home from the hospital in 2006, but I am always looking for any and all information that could be of help to me (as I'm sure all of us would be). There are people that use this site that are also members on the Yahoo Transverse Myelitis site. Should they just pick one or the other. I have met many people through this site, one who has become my best friend who has TM. I would not trade that for anything, but your e-mail makes me feel as though I am unwelcomed or a traitor of sorts. This brings me to tears. As I have poured my heart out on this site (reluctant to make my personal problems public), but felt comfortable enough to share with others who are, also suffering with relationship problems, pain and depression. That won't happen again. -Original Message- From: heyjude48...@aol.com To: ladyno...@aol.com Sent: Wed, Jun 17, 2009 4:26 am Subject: Re: [TMIC] Transverse Myelitis Network Then what is holding you back? Why don't you simply quit this site and use the other one that you say you prefer? What's the big deal? Jude In a message dated 6/15/2009 2:11:29 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, _ladyno...@aol.com_ (http://us.mc822.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ladyno...@aol.com) writes: I am also a member of the paraplegic/quadriplegic website that Jim has started. Although I have TM, which left me a quadriplegic, I identify more with the members of the paraplegic quadriplegic site then with the members of the TM site. Naomi C-4 Quadriplegic, since July 2, 2005 Due to Transverse Myelitis An Excellent Credit Score is 750. _See Yours in Just 2 Easy
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Barbara, I aslo read the same, Looks like Todd was giving kuddos to the TM quads that were able to type lengthly emails here is what he wrote and as far as I can see it is nothing short of praise how can the below be misread or how was it put Rick? So be carefull when you insinuate (Todds email) I'm amazed at ALL of your's e-mails. What it must take just to write an e-mails. Both of you DO write wonderful long e-mails. I do treasure each everyone of your e-mails. -- Original message from jharpe...@aol.com: -- Good grief, Rick. Todd was not at all griping or insinuating anything. He wrote a very gracious response to the previous e-mails in this thread. Barbara H. In a message dated 6/28/2009 9:19:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ashfo...@att.net writes: Todd' one of the reasons I reclused from this web site is because I had three members of my immediately family die and I needed to deal with funeral homes and I actually had to ask this list for donations and the people that I thought would help, did just did and I don't remember seeing Todd Tarno's name even as much as a salutation. I'm not picking on you but I know this, If you send a e-mail to Jim or anyone else on this list your email will eventually be answered. This is an amazing web site and if you are not satisfied with your business here, you can always go some where else and I guarentee you'll not find as many peoplewho for you, I'm sorry your a quad, and is every one else is too. So please stop gripping because you feel your 2 cents are not heard, because it is heard. and we all love you and your e-mail gets heard. This was Jim" dream and he could not be able to manage it on his on. We all keep it working. So be carefull when you insinuate. Your friend Rick Ashford. From: Todd Tarno toddtm2...@sbcglobal.netTo: ladyno...@aol.comCc: TMIC tmic-list@eskimo.comSent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 5:25:50 PMSubject: Re: [TMIC] Transverse Myelitis Network That won't happen again. We do enjoy reading ALL of your e-mails. I'm sadden that I'm unable to answer a few of your e-mails because of how TM has hit you. But, you are right that this site doesn't have many quads, like you Jim. I'm amazed at ALL of your's e-mails. What it must take just to write an e-mails. Both of you DO write wonderful long e-mails. I do treasure each everyone of your e-mails. I have trouble keeping upwith this site, more power to you to do more than one sit. Just know ya'll do have a FAN, Todd in Corpus Christi, TX --- On Wed, 6/17/09, ladyno...@aol.com ladyno...@aol.com wrote: From: ladyno...@aol.com ladyno...@aol.comSubject: Re: [TMIC] Transverse Myelitis NetworkTo: heyjude48...@aol.com, tmic-list@eskimo.comDate: Wednesday, June 17, 2009, 12:03 PM Jude, First of all, I never said I PREFER the paraplegic/quadriplegic site. I said I IDENTIFY more. I feel as though I offended you by saying this. There are issues and concerns of being a quad they are not addressed in the TM site and I would imagine it's because most people on this site are not quadriplegics. I go where I can find the information that helps me. If I did not want to be on this site, I could simply delete it from my contacts. There is nothing holding me back. I have asked questions on here regarding autonomic dysflexia, only to have no one respond. Because I later found out that it's a medical condition for quadriplegics, so I went to the paraplegic/quadriplegic site to get the answers I needed. I'm sure Jim uses these sites, HE CREATED THEM! Where is his hostility?? He knew that there would be a need for additional information, and that's all it is, is additional information. I have been a member of this site, since I came home from the hospital in 2006, but I am always looking for any and all information that could be of help to me (as I'm sure all of us would be). There are people that use this site that are also members on the Yahoo Transverse Myelitis site. Should they just pick one or the other. I have met many people through this site, one who has become my best friend who has TM. I would not trade that for anything, but your e-mail makes me feel as though I am unwelcomed or a traitor of sorts. This brings me to tears. As I have poured my heart out on this site (reluctant to make my personal problems public), but felt comfortable enough to share with others who are, also suffering with relationship problems, pain and depression. That won't happen again.-Original Message-From: heyjude48...@aol.comTo: ladyno...@aol.comSent: Wed, Jun 17, 2009 4:26 amSubject: Re: [TMIC] Transverse Myelitis Network Then what is holding you back? Why don't you simply quit this site and use the other one that you say you prefer? What's the big deal? Jude In a message dated 6/15/2009 2:11:29 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ladyno...@aol.com writes: I am also a member of the paraplegic/quadriplegic website that Jim has started. Although I have TM, which left me a quadriplegic, I
[TMIC] Sheesh! Stop it Guys!
*Todd did not intentionally do anything wrong. He wrote an extremely supportive post to Naomi. He in no way disparaged this list, or anyone on it. I've known Todd since I first became ill and he has never been ANYTHING but good to me, and I have never seen him post anything negative to anyone on this list site. I also know that he would help anyone here that he could, if he had the means to do so. Sadly, not all of us have the means to do so, myself included. For the life of me I do not understand what has been going on here lately.* ** *Grace*
Re: [TMIC] I'm on you tube
I just watched the first bit, but very cool! We could have used this years ago -- we had a Bentwood rocker with a cane seat that kept needing to be replaced every few years, so we finally got rid of it. But I rocked all of my babies in it -- pleasant memories! It was neat to see you. It's great that you put this online for others to benefit from. Barbara H. _http://barbarah.wordpress.com/_ (http://barbarah.wordpress.com/) In a message dated 6/27/2009 12:41:44 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, we4king...@verizon.net writes: My husband and I made a you tube video, Mainly for chair caners and it's long (10 min) but if any of you know anyone who wants to restore one of those oak and cane WW1 wheelchairs send them to my video site as they are done the same way as the chair I'm working on. Mindy the Artist _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dr75Po5pinM_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dr75Po5pinM) = **An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221323006x1201367222/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072hmpgID=62bcd=Jun eExcfooterNO62)
Re: [TMIC] Transverse Myelitis Network
Barbara, I apoligize, I was wrong and the message was taken in the wrong frame of mind. Please forgive me Todd. I have noone but myself to blame for the rudness. Since new years eve I have lost My Son, My Father, and my favorite Aunt. I suspose I was just lashing. I'm sorry that I spoke to you in such a way. I'm para and I have no Idea how the Quads feel. It is my worst nightmare to be in your position. Please, except my appoligy'. Rick From: jharpe...@aol.com jharpe...@aol.com To: ashfo...@att.net; toddtm2...@sbcglobal.net Cc: tmic-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 8:52:18 PM Subject: Re: [TMIC] Transverse Myelitis Network Good grief, Rick. Todd was not at all griping or insinuating anything. He wrote a very gracious response to the previous e-mails in this thread. Barbara H. In a message dated 6/28/2009 9:19:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ashfo...@att.net writes: Todd' one of the reasons I reclused from this web site is because I had three members of my immediately family die and I needed to deal with funeral homes and I actually had to ask this list for donations and the people that I thought would help, did just did and I don't remember seeing Todd Tarno's name even as much as a salutation. I'm not picking on you but I know this, If you send a e-mail to Jim or anyone else on this list your email will eventually be answered. This is an amazing web site and if you are not satisfied with your business here, you can always go some where else and I guarentee you'll not find as many people who for you, I'm sorry your a quad, and is every one else is too. So please stop gripping because you feel your 2 cents are not heard, because it is heard. and we all love you and your e-mail gets heard. This was Jim dream and he could not be able to manage it on his on. We all keep it working. So be carefull when you insinuate. Your friend Rick Ashford. From: Todd Tarno toddtm2...@sbcglobal.net To: ladyno...@aol.com Cc: TMIC tmic-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 5:25:50 PM Subject: Re: [TMIC] Transverse Myelitis Network That won't happen again. We do enjoy reading ALL of your e-mails. I'm sadden that I'm unable to answer a few of your e-mails because of how TM has hit you. But, you are right that this site doesn't have many quads, like you Jim. I'm amazed at ALL of your's e-mails. What it must take just to write an e-mails. Both of you DO write wonderful long e-mails. I do treasure each everyone of your e-mails. I have trouble keeping up with this site, more power to you to do more than one sit. Just know ya'll do have a FAN, Todd in Corpus Christi, TX --- On Wed, 6/17/09, ladyno...@aol.com ladyno...@aol.com wrote: From: ladyno...@aol.com ladyno...@aol.com Subject: Re: [TMIC] Transverse Myelitis Network To: heyjude48...@aol.com, tmic-list@eskimo.com Date: Wednesday, June 17, 2009, 12:03 PM Jude, First of all, I never said I PREFER the paraplegic/quadriplegic site. I said I IDENTIFY more. I feel as though I offended you by saying this. There are issues and concerns of being a quad they are not addressed in the TM site and I would imagine it's because most people on this site are not quadriplegics. I go where I can find the information that helps me. If I did not want to be on this site, I could simply delete it from my contacts. There is nothing holding me back. I have asked questions on here regarding autonomic dysflexia, only to have no one respond. Because I later found out that it's a medical condition for quadriplegics, so I went to the paraplegic/quadriplegic site to get the answers I needed. I'm sure Jim uses these sites, HE CREATED THEM! Where is his hostility?? He knew that there would be a need for additional information, and that's all it is, is additional information. I have been a member of this site, since I came home from the hospital in 2006, but I am always looking for any and all information that could be of help to me (as I'm sure all of us would be). There are people that use this site that are also members on the Yahoo Transverse Myelitis site. Should they just pick one or the other. I have met many people through this site, one who has become my best friend who has TM. I would not trade that for anything, but your e-mail makes me feel as though I am unwelcomed or a traitor of sorts. This brings me to tears. As I have poured my heart out on this site (reluctant to make my personal problems public), but felt comfortable enough to share with others who are, also suffering with relationship problems, pain and depression. That won't happen again. -Original Message- From: heyjude48...@aol.com To: ladyno...@aol.com Sent: Wed, Jun 17, 2009 4:26 am Subject: Re: [TMIC] Transverse Myelitis Network Then what is holding you back? Why don't you simply quit this site and use the other one that you say you prefer? What's the big deal? Jude
Re: [TMIC] Sheesh! Stop it Guys!
Gosh, and it's not even a full moon!!! OK.. I always tell my kids that you cannot change one second of what has already happened...just learn from it, go forward and try to be a better person than you were the day before. Some of you have heard me say this soHOW ABOUT STARTING OVER FROM THIS MOMENT ON We're only human. We have each other in this TM thing and that is a very special thing to have. Jeanne ---Original Message--- From: Grace M. Date: 06/28/09 21:04:19 To: tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: [TMIC] Sheesh! Stop it Guys! Todd did not intentionally do anything wrong. He wrote an extremely supportive post to Naomi. He in no way disparaged this list, or anyone on it. I've known Todd since I first became ill and he has never been ANYTHING but good to me, and I have never seen him post anything negative to anyone on this list site. I also know that he would help anyone here that he could if he had the means to do so. Sadly, not all of us have the means to do so myself included. For the life of me I do not understand what has been going on here lately. Grace 01_tile.jpg01_side.gif
[TMIC] is it raining everywhere?
is it grief over public losses and our private struggles? I'm reading *anger* vented at friends (Todd) who merely quoted an/others. Let's not beat each up-- TM already does that. Akua --
