RE: Returned mail: Delivery Failed

2004-03-23 Thread Shapira, Yoav

Hi,
I thought this address was blacklisted already?  I'll go do it now.

Yoav Shapira
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RE: Returned mail: Delivery Failed

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Hi,
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Re: Returned mail: Delivery Failed

2004-03-15 Thread Lee
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RE: Returned mail: Delivery Failed

2004-03-15 Thread Ronald Wildenberg
Could someone please stop this? I have received about 400
of these messages the last couple of hours. While typing
this message, 10 new ones have arrived.

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Re: Returned mail: Delivery Failed

2004-03-15 Thread Martin Gainty
Personally I was thinking of something more politically correct.
There is not much room for misinterpretation of your statement
Is there a way to unsubscribe these people so we do not get spammed by them?
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Re: Returned mail: Delivery Failed

2004-03-15 Thread Paul Speed
I remember when these lists were moderated.  Those were the days.
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RE: Returned mail: Delivery Failed

2004-03-15 Thread Mark Thomas
I am happy to help out with moderating this list. I get just as annoyed as
everyone else with spam. What is the process for becoming a moderator?

Mark

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RE: Returned mail: Delivery Failed

2004-03-15 Thread Shapira, Yoav

Hi,
The lists are moderated ;)  Ignacio Ortega moderated them by himself for
a long time, and I've helped him out for the past year and change, to
the point where he's not really that active anymore ;)

Moderating the lists is by and large an unglamorous, thankless job.
Like all ASF things, it's done on our free time without compensation.

I don't check my email on weekends, hence the delayed response to this
particular one.

I am happy to help out with moderating this list. I get just as annoyed
as
everyone else with spam. What is the process for becoming a moderator?

Will you commit to checking the lists on weekends?  I have the weekdays
covered pretty much.  If you want to continue this discussion
privately/off-list, feel free ;)

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Re: Returned mail: Delivery Failed

2004-03-15 Thread Paul Speed
It seemed to me that in the old days, posts were held until a moderator
let them through.  You had to be put on an approved list to have direct
posting access.  At least, that's how the posting delay for new 
subscribers was explained.  As I undertand it, none of these messages
would have made it through under that system.

I wouldn't call the current situation as moderated so much as
managed.  Is there a reason that the developers list allows posting
from non-subscribers?  Or are these troubled addresses actually fully
subscribed?

-Paul

Shapira, Yoav wrote:
 
 Hi,
 The lists are moderated ;)  Ignacio Ortega moderated them by himself for
 a long time, and I've helped him out for the past year and change, to
 the point where he's not really that active anymore ;)
 
 Moderating the lists is by and large an unglamorous, thankless job.
 Like all ASF things, it's done on our free time without compensation.
 
 I don't check my email on weekends, hence the delayed response to this
 particular one.
 
 I am happy to help out with moderating this list. I get just as annoyed
 as
 everyone else with spam. What is the process for becoming a moderator?
 
 Will you commit to checking the lists on weekends?  I have the weekdays
 covered pretty much.  If you want to continue this discussion
 privately/off-list, feel free ;)
 
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RE: Returned mail: Delivery Failed

2004-03-15 Thread Shapira, Yoav

Hi,

It seemed to me that in the old days, posts were held until a moderator
let them through.

That was true for some lists.  Very few lists are so light in traffic
that that's possible now.


subscribers was explained.  As I undertand it, none of these messages
would have made it through under that system.

That's true, but that system is not feasible for tomcat-dev and
tomcat-user, as it requires moderators to screen thousands of messages
daily.

I wouldn't call the current situation as moderated so much as
managed.  Is there a reason that the developers list allows posting
from non-subscribers?  Or are these troubled addresses actually fully
subscribed?

All these addresses are fully subscribed (i.e. they responded to the
subscription confirmation message).  Only subscribed addresses may post
here.

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Re: Returned mail: Delivery Failed

2004-03-15 Thread Paul Speed


Shapira, Yoav wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 It seemed to me that in the old days, posts were held until a moderator
 let them through.
 
 That was true for some lists.  Very few lists are so light in traffic
 that that's possible now.

Ah.  The way I understood it before was that new subscribers were
allowed to post but their posts would get moderated until putting
them on a good poster list.  I guess I was mistaken about the last
part, but it would be a pretty good system.

 
 subscribers was explained.  As I undertand it, none of these messages
 would have made it through under that system.
 
 That's true, but that system is not feasible for tomcat-dev and
 tomcat-user, as it requires moderators to screen thousands of messages
 daily.
 
 I wouldn't call the current situation as moderated so much as
 managed.  Is there a reason that the developers list allows posting
 from non-subscribers?  Or are these troubled addresses actually fully
 subscribed?
 
 All these addresses are fully subscribed (i.e. they responded to the
 subscription confirmation message).  Only subscribed addresses may post
 here.

Thanks for the information.  I'm not one to sit by and critique
something that I'm not willing to help out on.  So, I'd be willing to
help out if needed.  I'm not a committer, but I've been reading this
list for years.

-Paul

 
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RE: Returned mail: Delivery Failed

2004-03-15 Thread David Rees
Shapira, Yoav wrote:
 I wouldn't call the current situation as moderated so much as
 managed.  Is there a reason that the developers list allows posting
 from non-subscribers?  Or are these troubled addresses actually fully
 subscribed?

 All these addresses are fully subscribed (i.e. they responded to the
 subscription confirmation message).  Only subscribed addresses may post
 here.

Note that most of these auto-responders are brain-dead enough that anyone
can unsubscribe them by sending a blank message to the following
addresses:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Replace tomcat-dev with tomcat-user for auto-responders spamming that list.

Unfortunately, as easy as it is to unsubscribe these addresses, they can
become subscribed again so they need to be blacklisted.  Yoav, you
currently handle blacklisting of these addresses, correct?

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RE: Returned mail: Delivery Failed

2004-03-15 Thread Shapira, Yoav

Hi,

 All these addresses are fully subscribed (i.e. they responded to the
 subscription confirmation message).  Only subscribed addresses may
post
 here.

Thanks for the information.  I'm not one to sit by and critique
something that I'm not willing to help out on.  So, I'd be willing to
help out if needed.  I'm not a committer, but I've been reading this
list for years.

One needs to be a committer (for any ASF project, not necessarily
tomcat), but thanks for the help offer anyways ;)  Mark will help cover
weekends starting soon, so that should be good.

What I'd like to see is a smarter subscription mechanism that requires
you to type a specific phrase/number as shown on the subscription
confirmation email (or perhaps on a web page), thereby greatly reducing
the ability of auto-responders to subscribe themselves to the list.

Yoav Shapira



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RE: Returned mail: Delivery Failed

2004-03-15 Thread Shapira, Yoav

Howdy,

Unfortunately, as easy as it is to unsubscribe these addresses, they
can
become subscribed again so they need to be blacklisted.  Yoav, you
currently handle blacklisting of these addresses, correct?

Yup, I'm preventing them from resubscribing by placing them on ezmlm's
deny list.

Yoav Shapira



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Re: Returned mail: Delivery Failed

2004-03-15 Thread Paul Speed


David Rees wrote:
 
 Shapira, Yoav wrote:
  I wouldn't call the current situation as moderated so much as
  managed.  Is there a reason that the developers list allows posting
  from non-subscribers?  Or are these troubled addresses actually fully
  subscribed?
 
  All these addresses are fully subscribed (i.e. they responded to the
  subscription confirmation message).  Only subscribed addresses may post
  here.
 
 Note that most of these auto-responders are brain-dead enough that anyone
 can unsubscribe them by sending a blank message to the following
 addresses:

Good point.  As convenient as the reply to confirm system is, maybe 
it's time for mailing list program authors to come up with something
better.  Is this a configurable option for this list's software?
(ezmail?)

-Paul

 
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 Replace tomcat-dev with tomcat-user for auto-responders spamming that list.
 
 Unfortunately, as easy as it is to unsubscribe these addresses, they can
 become subscribed again so they need to be blacklisted.  Yoav, you
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