Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] A few questions before buying the Touch
realmassy;542238 Wrote: I think I'll give the new Touch a try the next week, and I have some questions before buying it. I used to own a Duet, but I didn't like the setup too much, the pc always on (I had a SheevaPlug), a dedicated router... Currently I'm using a Teac Wap, and it works perfectly: I have an external disc attached to one of the two USB, I don't need any PC, and it comes with a nice Touch remote controller. But, the new Squeezebox Touch is said to have a better digital output (I use an external dac) and it comes with a built-in Squeezebox Server. My idea is to attach the same HD (with its own power adapter) to the touch, connect the touch to the wifi, and use my IPhone + IPeng as remote. I don't have any plan to listen to high resolution files, but this would be an obvious plus. My question is: can you see any problem with a setup like this? I've read there are some issues playing high resolution files from the attached drive, but what about 16/44 FLAC files? Also, can you safely use the IPhone and IPeng as controller? Can you set the digital output level to 100%? Thanks in advance. There are no serious issues (ie that can't be lived with or worked around for a while) with USB playback of FLAC. Certainly FLAC 16/44.1 or 24/48 has no issues. higher-res has 2 issues: SOME 24/96 files at flac -8 can stutter...simply re-flac them to -5 When skipping tracks at 24/96 you can get a momentary loss of lock from an external DAC - this will be fixed in firmware at some point soonish... This lst problem doesn't affect normal playback, only when you jump mid-track to another track -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78141 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] A few questions before buying the Touch
Thanks for your reply. I'm wondering whether the sluggishness of the scan using the built-in server could be a problem. Is there any work-around to build the database on a pc and then re-attach the drive? Some people seem to have problems with big music collections. As I posted in a different thread maybe the scanning from the external drive using the tiny server could be optimized, maybe handling less tags, or loading the extra tags on demand. One more question, can I use a squeezebox server on my laptop and still attach the USB drive to the Touch? I don't have any NAS at the moment, but my laptop is almost always on, but obviously I can't attach a drive and move it with me. If the hard drive is shared in the network through Samba, then this could work from me. Thanks -- realmassy realmassy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33109 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78141 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] A few questions before buying the Touch
realmassy;542500 Wrote: Is there any work-around to build the database on a pc and then re-attach the drive? No, at least no easy one. Theoretically it's just a SQLite database so suspect it should be possible to create it off line, the problem is just that the paths are probably going to be different if you mount the USB drive on a PC. realmassy;542500 Wrote: Some people seem to have problems with big music collections. If you have a large collection, I'd personally advice you to run a standalone server. Get a Vortexbox or Sheevaplug or use an old PC/laptop, you will avoid a lot of problems. realmassy;542500 Wrote: As I posted in a different thread maybe the scanning from the external drive using the tiny server could be optimized, maybe handling less tags, or loading the extra tags on demand. Scanning is normally only an issue the first time. The problem is for people with large collection where the first time never finish. I'm not sure what Logitech's perspective is on this, they can either ignore the problems and state that large collections aren't supported or optimize the code to decrease the functionality even more. I personally don't think the number of tags is the problem, the problem is probably more related to the number of files that needs to be handled. realmassy;542500 Wrote: One more question, can I use a squeezebox server on my laptop and still attach the USB drive to the Touch? I don't have any NAS at the moment, but my laptop is almost always on, but obviously I can't attach a drive and move it with me. If the hard drive is shared in the network through Samba, then this could work from me. The drive is shared with samba, so this should work. -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info) (Install my plugins through Extension Downloader) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library, Title Switcher and Database Query plugins' (http://wiki.erland.isaksson.info/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78141 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] A few questions before buying the Touch
Thanks Erland. It sounds if I'll go with the Touch route I definitely need an external server, probably I'd choose a Vortexbox appliance, so I have the storage as well. But I have to sort the issue with the network out. The Vortexbox has no wi-fi capability, and I can't put the appliance near the router (my wife would kill me). Anyone has experience with network over mains? -- realmassy realmassy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33109 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78141 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezebox Touch = Awesome! Initial thoughts
I'm still a bit undecided on my Touch. It has directly replaced a SB3 which I've had for well over 2 years. On the plus side the Touch is very well built, sturdy and feels heavy and well constructed. It just works, plug it in, eneter your wireless key and off it goes. The Touch interface is very responsive with no lag. Sound quality is great. The things I'm not sure about are:- - Is it the right size? I sit on a sofa about 6' from the Touch and the screen isn't very clear at this distance. Maybe it could do with being a tad bigger, maybe another inch in the diagonal - The LCD screen is good but not great, it looks to have LEDs at the side for the screen backlight. This gives ridges in the brightness across the screen when close-up. Maybe an OLED screen in V2 would help? - I want to see many more preferences available through the Squeezebox Server as it is very limted in this area. I'm considering putting the SB3 back and placing the Touch somewhere else where I'll make better use of the screen and Touch functionallity Paul -- Paul_B Paul Slimcentre 7.2 on Quad Intel MSI MoBo running Vista Ultimate 64bit controlled via a Mini-ITX server running Windows 2003 R2 (SP2) and Idratek Cortex home-automation software. Remote storage QNAP TS-109 Pro(2.1.0T)~(500GB Hitachi HDD) SB3 (x1), 1 x SBB (Squeezebox Boom) on order RIP - dBpowerAMP R13 to FLAC ID3 Tags - MP3Tag v2.41 Paul_B's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3039 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78150 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch - first impressions and questions
Having received my Touch this week I think it is good but not great. I think the size is wrong for what it is designed to be and maybe should be closer to that of the Sony Dash. I agree it is hard to read from a distance and will probably go back to my SB3 and put the Touch somewhere else. Also in v2 of the product many of the LCD issues would go away if OLED was used. Paul -- Paul_B Paul Slimcentre 7.2 on Quad Intel MSI MoBo running Vista Ultimate 64bit controlled via a Mini-ITX server running Windows 2003 R2 (SP2) and Idratek Cortex home-automation software. Remote storage QNAP TS-109 Pro(2.1.0T)~(500GB Hitachi HDD) SB3 (x1), 1 x SBB (Squeezebox Boom) on order RIP - dBpowerAMP R13 to FLAC ID3 Tags - MP3Tag v2.41 Paul_B's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3039 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78066 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Rescan SBS from Touch Interface
Okay I give up is it possible and if so how do you use the Touch interface to rescan the music on a Squeezebox server? -- Paul_B Paul Slimcentre 7.2 on Quad Intel MSI MoBo running Vista Ultimate 64bit controlled via a Mini-ITX server running Windows 2003 R2 (SP2) and Idratek Cortex home-automation software. Remote storage QNAP TS-109 Pro(2.1.0T)~(500GB Hitachi HDD) SB3 (x1), 1 x SBB (Squeezebox Boom) on order RIP - dBpowerAMP R13 to FLAC ID3 Tags - MP3Tag v2.41 Paul_B's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3039 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78177 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] A few questions before buying the Touch
Do a search in these forums for Homeplug or Powerline, there are tons of posts. -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78141 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] A few questions before buying the Touch
toby10;542528 Wrote: Do a search in these forums for Homeplug or Powerline, there are tons of posts. Cheers! :-) -- realmassy realmassy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33109 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78141 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Touch + Cambridge Audio DacMagic
Hi all, I've just got my Touch, so Ive decided to join this forum. As the title indicates, I am using my Touch with a Cambridge Audio DacMagic. Somewhat rashly, I bought the DAC at the same time as the Touch, assuming it would improve on that built into the Touch. So does it? Well, after a lot of cable swapping and listening, I would say, yes it does, but not by much. As you may know, the DacMagic offers three filters which I find only subtly different. The Touch DAC is essentially a fourth option which is defintly on a par with the other three. Having said that, I would rank the Touch DAC as my least favourite of the four options (but still very good, as I said, the differences are subtle). As an example, I now routinely use the minimum phase filter on the DacMagic, which to me, sounds the most human of the available options. By contrast, the Touch DAC is as detailed as the DacMagic, but a bit more hi-fi sounding. If I play a track like Floyds Great Gig in the Sky the DacMagic (min phase) can send shivers down the spine in a way that the Touch DAC doesnt quite achieve. But I emphasise again, the differences are not great and I could happily live with just the Touch. By the way, I also think the Touch/DacMagic stacks-up well against my (way more costly) CD player (Naim CDX2). -- Mel-UK Mel-UK's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37961 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78181 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezebox Touch = Awesome! Initial thoughts
Daverz;542508 Wrote: What DAC are you using? I'm using a Bel Canto DAC3. I've had it for awhile and have gotten used to the sound (it's very neutral). As soon as I plugged in the Touch I noticed a substantial improvement in the sound. -- bullethead bullethead's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4803 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78150 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezebox Touch = Awesome! Initial thoughts
Paul_B;542519 Wrote: I'm still a bit undecided on my Touch. It has directly replaced a SB3 which I've had for well over 2 years. The things I'm not sure about are:- - Is it the right size? I sit on a sofa about 6' from the Touch and the screen isn't very clear at this distance. Maybe it could do with being a tad bigger, maybe another inch in the diagonal - The LCD screen is good but not great, it looks to have LEDs at the side for the screen backlight. This gives ridges in the brightness across the screen when close-up. Maybe an OLED screen in V2 would help? - I want to see many more preferences available through the Squeezebox Server as it is very limted in this area. I can agree on all points. However, if I would choose music player in the living room today I'd still go with the Touch. Since I was part of the beta testing I've had mine for over a year now. There is no way I'm putting back the SB3 in the living room, it's VFD screen is soo boring after you have had the color screen on the Touch for a while. Of course, I rarely use any screen savers made by Logitech, it's the third party stuff that makes the difference where I can get exactly the font size and style I like. -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info) (Install my plugins through Extension Downloader) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library, Title Switcher and Database Query plugins' (http://wiki.erland.isaksson.info/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78150 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezebox Touch = Awesome! Initial thoughts
Paul_B;542519 Wrote: I'm still a bit undecided on my Touch. It has directly replaced a SB3 which I've had for well over 2 years. The things I'm not sure about are:- - Is it the right size? I sit on a sofa about 6' from the Touch and the screen isn't very clear at this distance. Maybe it could do with being a tad bigger, maybe another inch in the diagonal - The LCD screen is good but not great, it looks to have LEDs at the side for the screen backlight. This gives ridges in the brightness across the screen when close-up. Maybe an OLED screen in V2 would help? - I want to see many more preferences available through the Squeezebox Server as it is very limted in this area. I can agree on all points. However, if I would choose music player in the living room today I'd still go with the Touch. Since I was part of the beta testing I've had mine for over a year now. There is no way I'm putting back the SB3 in the living room, it's VFD screen is soo boring after you have had the color screen on the Touch for a while. Of course, I rarely use any screen savers made by Logitech, it's the third party stuff that makes the difference where I can get exactly the font size and style I like. -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info) (Install my plugins through Extension Downloader) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library, Title Switcher and Database Query plugins' (http://wiki.erland.isaksson.info/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78150 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch + Cambridge Audio DacMagic
Yep cheers for sharing. I too have the CA Dacmagic but no touch as yet. I will wait a few months and pick up a Touch when they are less costly and any problems with software etc are ironed out. Right now two sb3 and a boom will suit my needs well. -- zygote23 zygote23's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12689 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78181 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezebox Touch = Awesome! Initial thoughts
I think I'll leave it for a while then and see what goes. At the end of the day the sound is the most important thing about the device and this is still very good. -- Paul_B Paul Squeeze Server 7.5 for Windows Home Server on Custom Intel Atom MoBo SB3 (x1), SBB (Squeezebox Boom) x1, SBR (Squeezebox Radio with battery) x1, SBT (Squeezebox Touch) RIP - dBpowerAMP R13 to FLAC ID3 Tags - MP3Tag v2.41 Paul_B's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3039 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78150 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] A few questions before buying the Touch
toby10;542528 Wrote: Do a search in these forums for Homeplug or Powerline, there are tons of posts. Yeah, some folks love it, but it didn't work well at all for some of us (including me -- I tried to connect the kitchen Squeezebox with Homeplug to prevent wireless dropouts when the microwave oven runs, but ended up just adding a WDS wireless extender). My SBS box connects to an old Linksys router running third-party firmware (Tomato, DD-WRT, etc.) to act as a wireless bridge. I'm able to stream not just audio, but even standard definition video. Does Vortexbox not support USB wifi adapters? -- peterw http://www.tux.org/~peterw/ Free plugins: 'AllQuiet' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/AllQuiet.html) 'Auto Dim/AutoDisplay' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/AutoDisplay.html) 'BlankSaver' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/BlankSaver.html) 'ContextMenu' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/ContextMenu.html) 'DenonSerial' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/DenonSerial.html) 'FuzzyTime' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/FuzzyTime.html) 'KidsPlay' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/KidsPlay.html) 'KitchenTimer' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/KitchenTimer.html) 'PlayLog' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/PlayLog.html) 'PowerCenter/BottleRocket' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/PowerCenter.html) 'SaverSwitcher' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SaverSwitcher.html) 'SettingsManager' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SettingsManager.html) 'SleepFade' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SleepFade.html) 'StatusFirst' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/StatusFirst.html) 'SyncOptions' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SyncOptions.html) 'VolumeLock' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/VolumeLock.html) peterw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2107 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78141 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch + Cambridge Audio DacMagic
Mel-UK: Thanks very much for sharing your experience and observations. I am thinking about this combination myself and your comments are appreciated. Dave -- MBlue72 MBlue72's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13779 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78181 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] AlbumArt of Songs without(!) Album didn't show up!?
any feedback how to fix this??? -- Shepardos Shepardos's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4087 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78121 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] A few questions before buying the Touch
FYI, I have had really excellent results with a Powerline unit. My router to the downstairs PC via the Powerline, then to our Duet via ethernet. I had tremendous difficulty getting a stable internet connection to that computer (I tried every wireless receiver/antenna I could find). Went to the Powerline approach and haven't had a single problem for about 15 months. Dave -- MBlue72 MBlue72's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13779 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78141 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] What USB drives are supported / recommanded?
MCG555;542369 Wrote: Hi there, it seams that USB drive is not USB drive... Is there a list from slimdevices what drives are recommanded? I am looking for a 500GB drive something like -western Digital my passport essential or -platinum mydrive Of course I would prefer a drive without external power supply (knowing that Logitech does prefer a powered hub for these drives). Also the drive should be green and nice to look at... :-) Recommandations? Thanks a lot! Greetings from Zurich Markus I bought a WD 640 GB My Passport Essential, and it works well powered from the USB port on the Touch. Mine is black (not green :) ), and it matches the finish on the Touch quite nicely. If you use the WD Smartware software, you can change the idle timeout, which defaults to 10 minutes. I also used WD Smartware to hide the virtual CD ROM drive. Another thread seemed to suggest that might be helpful. -- mfw mfw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37175 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78163 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] A few questions before buying the Touch
peterw;542591 Wrote: Yeah, some folks love it, but it didn't work well at all for some of us (including me -- I tried to connect the kitchen Squeezebox with Homeplug to prevent wireless dropouts when the microwave oven runs, but ended up just adding a WDS wireless extender). My SBS box connects to an old Linksys router running third-party firmware (Tomato, DD-WRT, etc.) to act as a wireless bridge. I'm able to stream not just audio, but even standard definition video. Does Vortexbox not support USB wifi adapters? True. Never used them myself. What was the issue with yours? Noisy line? Wrong circuit? -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78141 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Scan experiences with the internal squeezebox server of the Touch (USB-HD)
Yeah, I am going to pass on the Touch until they get the internal server working correctly. Sadly, I just can't do the whole network thing in my house. Couldn't one create a database on the external USB hard drive using a PC, and then just hook it up to the Touch and go? -- bingcrosby bingcrosby's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34653 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77600 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] A few questions before buying the Touch
peterw;542591 Wrote: Does Vortexbox not support USB wifi adapters? As far as I'm aware it doesn't. I think I prefer a SheevaPlug with a USB drive attached, though. It's so small I can put it close to the router, and my wife won't noticed it :-D The Touch would be in the same room, about 5 meters from the router, so I should be able to stream wireless even high resolution files. Any network issues in this case? Can I safely assume the audio quality of the digital output of the Touch is the same when connected wirelessly? Any issues with the SheevaPlug processor? Is it powerful enough to decode 96/24 files? I used to own a SheevaPlug for my Duet, but I sold it thinking I'd have never used it with the Touch :-) Sorry for all these questions, but I want to make sure I can have a good setup :-) -- realmassy realmassy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33109 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78141 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Rescan SBS from Touch Interface
I think you can only rescan from the server itself. -- spile spile's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37780 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78177 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 Perfromance Issue ( Solution!)
@John S. Thanks! Lets get the specifics of your system: are you running external server or internal server? External. If external server, how are you connecting, wired or wireless? Wireless. WPA. If external server what format are you streaming? Flac. Do you knopw what compression level the files are at? No. Is there a linux command to tell that? I have the same Claire Martin Linn recording as the poster above. Mine is 113 MB. Are you displaying artworK? Is the artwork changing when you hear a problem? Seems to skip whether art work is displayed or not. Are you running any animated visualizer (VU meters, spectrum analyzer) No. Is the now playing screen scrolling text? Yes. are you viewing pictures at the same time? No. Does the problem happen only at the beginning of tracks or in other places? Only at the beginning. There are many things that can use up CPU cycles that can cause audio problems with high sample rate files. We need to figure out which one it is in your case and come up with a way to get around it. I get the following in /var/log/messsages on the touch when I skip to the next track of 24/96 album Code: May 2 14:50:39 squeezeplay: INFO audio.decode - Playback.lua:436 connect 192.168.1.3:9000 GET /stream.mp3?player=00:04:20:22:12:58 HTTP/1.0^M May 2 14:50:39 squeezeplay: INFO audio.decode - decode_start_handler:275 init decoder flc May 2 14:50:40 squeezeplay: playback_callback:332 Audio underrun: used 768 frames, requested 960 frames. elapsed samples 11520 May 2 14:50:40 squeezeplay: playback_callback:332 Audio underrun: used 256 frames, requested 960 frames. elapsed samples 16128 May 2 14:50:40 squeezeplay: playback_callback:332 Audio underrun: used 256 frames, requested 960 frames. elapsed samples 20224 May 2 14:50:40 squeezeplay: playback_callback:332 Audio underrun: used 256 frames, requested 960 frames. elapsed samples 24320 May 2 14:50:40 squeezeplay: playback_callback:332 Audio underrun: used 256 frames, requested 960 frames. elapsed samples 28416 May 2 14:50:40 squeezeplay: playback_callback:332 Audio underrun: used 256 frames, requested 960 frames. elapsed samples 32512 May 2 14:50:40 squeezeplay: INFO audio.decode - Playback.lua:314 output underrun May 2 14:50:41 squeezeplay: WARN applet.NowPlaying - NowPlayingApplet.lua:877 repeat button style changed to: repeatOff May 2 14:50:41 squeezeplay: WARN applet.NowPlaying - NowPlayingApplet.lua:853 shuffle button style changed to: shuffleOff May 2 14:50:44 squeezeplay: playback_callback:332 Audio underrun: used 512 frames, requested 960 frames. elapsed samples 224768 May 2 14:50:44 squeezeplay: playback_callback:332 Audio underrun: used 256 frames, requested 960 frames. elapsed samples 229120 May 2 14:50:44 squeezeplay: playback_callback:332 Audio underrun: used 512 frames, requested 960 frames. elapsed samples 237056 -- mkt mkt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14921 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77080 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] A few questions before buying the Touch
Mnyb;542680 Wrote: But if it is in the same room as the router it's completely nuts to *not* use wired ethernet !! :confused: Wifi is not a real network, ethernet is so much better than even a perfect wifi setup. In general only use wireless when the application demands it, a laptop an iPhone or an controller is, well portable you can't have wires hanging out of that stuff :-) Save your wifi capacity for that stuff . Things that sits in the same place all the time can be wired. Unless your walls are such that you need professionals to make the holes. Also you can free some wifi capacity by wire other stuff that seems unrelated to your squeezebox system, you don't want somebody else in the household to download torrents over wifi at the same time if you are using it for the music Also Touch use slightly more CPU on wifi . And filling up the buffer goes slower with 24/96 files over wifi you can get a small glitch when the first track in an Hirez playlist starts or when skipping in 24/96 files LOL No way I can pass a ethernet cable in my lounge :-) And I've just finished to decorate the house so no holes in the wall. This is the reason I used to have a dedicated router when I owned the Duet, and this is the reason I'm using now the Teac: it works perfectly with a USB drive. If I can't use the wireless for the Touch I can try the network over mains. Or probably I'll stick with the Teac :-) Thanks anyway for your honest replies. -- realmassy realmassy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33109 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78141 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Hmnnn..any reason why my box might have been resealed at the factory??
50 views on the General Discussion forum and no replies, so trying here thanks. Got a Touch recently at a discounted price due to inconvenience... Part of a set of 2 units sent out, my box had been resealed...the circular tape which seals the box was double layered (there was one bit of tape on top of the other) and the packaging inside was SLIGHTLY more handled than you would expect from a brand new straight from the factory purchase. The unit itself was covered in the cellophane protective sheet and looked untouched, and all the accessories were there in sealed bags, looking as you would expect. BUT.. The box, despite the very good job at putting it back together as new, had TWO layers of tape on the flap..and I was very careful peelin the top layer off which revealed a CUT layer underneath. So my question is I guess, WHY would this have been sent out as new..? Is it a case of a particular batch being sent out to meet the discounted orders..? Personally I bought a brand new Touch, I don't want a used one. What's Logitech's position on this as I'm not 100% happy, and I want to be. The thought will always be there that my unit is perhaps second hand in some way.. Thanks. -- Gazjam Gazjam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18604 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78198 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Hmnnn..any reason why my box might have been resealed at the factory??
Another possibility is that a sample is taken for QA checks -- shevans SB Touch, TeddySB3 (PSU), QED Digit Positron PSU, NVA P90sa passive pre-amp, NVA A40 monoblock's, Fostex FE206E based big purple people eaters! The Caiman+ went back... shevans's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32505 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78198 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] A few questions before buying the Touch
There was talk earlier in this thread about large collections and how they perform on the Touch. What is considered to be a large collection? I have about 23,000 songs (600 GB) on an external HD connected via USB to the Touch. It'll take at least 40 seconds to get a song selected to play. Once it plays, there are no problems as it moves through the album. If I try to select a song from a different album, while a song is playing, then it either slows down and I get a message saying the Touch is trying to connect to the USB or it pulls up the album after about 40 seconds or so. I have no idea why this is happening. The scan was completed without any interruptions. -- crimscrem crimscrem's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37536 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78141 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Rescan SBS from Touch Interface
I think you can do this one of a few ways. 1. Factor reset through the Touch menu. First, properly eject the USB. Then, go Settings --- Advance --- Restore Factory Settings. Once it boots up again, then attached the drive. 2. Do the same as above, but after ejecting the USB, then hit the factory reset button above the power plug in. 3. And option, this is what I think you're going for: Settings --- Advance --- Squeezebox Server --- Stop Squeezebox Server. then go back through the same way and start the Squeezebox Server. It'll give you a Wipe and Rescan option. -- crimscrem crimscrem's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37536 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78177 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch + Cambridge Audio DacMagic
Assuming you bought it from RS, take it back for a refund. -- Mr_Sukebe SB Touch, Meridian 568.2, Bel Canto Evo2i, Impulse Ta'us, Coherent system, audio-technica and Zanash cables, Stillpoints Mr_Sukebe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78181 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] WD Elements 1TB - Any good with Touch?
KJAM;540967 Wrote: Ferdie...I am using a 1TB WD Elements with my Touch. It does indeed spin down and go into stand-by mode when the Touch is not active...and then spins back up when I wake up the Touch. I am having some trouble with the Touch not being able to connect to the drive from time to time, but I'm not convinced it's the hard drive yet. I think it's a problem with the Touch. Let me know how it's working for you when you get it. I would be curious to know if you have any issues. Kevin I have a 1.5 TB WD Elements connected via USB to the Touch. I have a lot of trouble with connection. I regularly get messages saying the Touch is trying to connect. Or sometimes where it can't connect only for it to connect after a wait. Hugely frustrating. I have about 600 GB of music on it. I don't think this is too big of a collection for the Touch to handle. All music is FLAC. I don't think it's the HD either. It's newer than the Touch. Once I pull up an album (about 40 seconds when working well), it play songs through the album very well. But if I try to change it to another song on a different album, I run into problems and delays. -- crimscrem crimscrem's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37536 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77998 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Touch not recognizing USB drive
The SB server started and the usb drive was scanned but when I go to my music, it is not there. My only choice is the music on my computer. Any suggestions on how to get the USB drive to show up under My Music. Thanks -- beachlady beachlady's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36345 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78207 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Rescan SBS from Touch Interface
But that's only the internal server ! the classic players had an menu option to trigger a scan on an external server. This is not replicated on to the Touch, yet another SB3 function that did not migrate to the Touch (it's replacement). But, this was raised as an enhancement request for the duet or more precise the controller , but was then turned down as wontfix in bugzilla . No real motivation to why. And why deliberately keep UI inconsistencies between players ? Transporter SB3/2 and Boom can trigger a scan on the server but not radio,controller and Touch. So either remove it from the old players or add it to the new players. But this will be less off a problem when the autoscan is working properly for 7.6 then you just drop in new files and a moment later they are scanned. -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J and assorted amps SiriuS, Classe'Primare and Dynadio speakers (including a pair of Contour 4 ) Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Miscellaneous use: Radio (with battery) I use a Controller various ir-remotes and a Eee-PC with squeezeplay to control this Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78177 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch not recognizing USB drive
beachlady;542721 Wrote: The SB server started and the usb drive was scanned but when I go to my music, it is not there. My only choice is the music on my computer. Any suggestions on how to get the USB drive to show up under My Music. What do you see under My Music Switch Library? You may still be connected to the server (library) running on the computer and you may have to switch to the Touch. When you enter the My Music menu you should see the library name in the title bar at the top. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78207 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] WD Elements 1TB - Any good with Touch?
crimscrem;542718 Wrote: I have a lot of trouble with connection. I regularly get messages saying the Touch is trying to connect. Or sometimes where it can't connect only for it to connect after a wait. Hugely frustrating... I have, unfortunately, been having the same problem with my WD hdd and I don't think its hard drive either. Frustrating is an understatement. I decided to just give up for now ... my weekends are too important to me to waste it fiddling with this thingy. I hope the they get around to making the USB hard drive connection a little more effective. -- carib carib's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34240 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77998 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Using touch with RipNas
Is it possible to use SB Touch with a self-contained CD ripper and storage? The RipNas has a usb connect so I'm wondering whether coupled with the Touch would form a contained solution that didn't need a NAS? Has anyone done this? Thanks Treo -- treo treo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37972 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78208 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch behaving odd - advice appreciated
Touch's inbuilt server can play Internet Radio and Music Services just fine, without needing to switch it to MySB.com. You should not need to shut down the inbuilt server for such playback. My guess is that your Touch is having basic issues connecting to (and staying connected to) your network. What is Touch's WiFi signal strength? Touch Settings Advanced Touch Information -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78206 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Does touch support NTP? How do you set the time!?
Hi all I'm really struggling tweaking the touch embedded server, as I cannot find any wiki instructions beyond the basics. The main one is, does the embedded server support time setting via NTP? Thanks -- local.bin local.bin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22053 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78209 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Analogue/digital VU
Thanks for the information Erland. I had suspected that 7.6 was the most likely reason for this not working. I've gone to 7.5 now and all is working fine, except I'm back to having long scanning time and a slow web interface. BTW I appreciate your efforts in making all this available to us all. Thank you. -- slackhead slackhead's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13963 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77117 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 Perfromance Issue ( Solution!)
Thanks, that helps. At this point it looks like there are two possibilities, either connectivity issues (WiFi interference) or flac decompression issues. The easiest thing to test now is go to streaming PCM rather than flac. If its a flac decoding issue that should clear it up. If its a WiFi issue it might get worse. Many people have wifi interference issues even though they have a strong signal. The strong signal does not preclude interference, it just makes it less likely. If its a WiFi issue you night have to go wired to the server. John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77080 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Does touch support NTP? How do you set the time!?
I believe it comes from mysqueezebox.com. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78209 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Does touch support NTP? How do you set the time!?
I believe it comes from mysqueezebox.com. -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78209 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Hmnnn..any reason why my box might have been resealed at the factory??
pippin;542691 Wrote: Send it back. Touch isn't out long enough for returned items to be in the loop. Crossposting in another five threads will not help either. Just one other thread Sir! :) -- Gazjam Gazjam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18604 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78198 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Does touch support NTP? How do you set the time!?
Really, how does it do that when you connect to the local disk library it loses the mysqueezebox server connection? -- local.bin local.bin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22053 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78209 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Does touch support NTP? How do you set the time!?
Unlike most of the IP3K-based SBs (SB/SB2/SB3/Classic/TP/Receiver), the Touch has an internal clock. So it will set the clock from mysb.com (or, I think, from a regular SBS on the local network), and keep time from there. After that it resyncs at intervals, provided a time server is available either via the local server or direct to mysb.com. I've had no problems with the Touch keeping time, unlike the Radio which for a while wasn't re-sync'ing with the server, and was losing ~1 minute/week on its internal clock. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78209 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Experiencing Touch for a couple of days
I have a Drobo connected directly to the Touch,and have no problem playing 24/96 beyond an occasional stutter at the start when I change tracks.I can live with that. -- Ali Tait Ali Tait's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37387 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78211 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Hmnnn..any reason why my box might have been resealed at the factory??
Gazjam;542686 Wrote: 50 views on the General Discussion forum and no replies, so trying here thanks. Got a Touch recently at a discounted price due to inconvenience... Part of a set of 2 units sent out, my box had been resealed...the circular tape which seals the box was double layered (there was one bit of tape on top of the other) and the packaging inside was SLIGHTLY more handled than you would expect from a brand new straight from the factory purchase. The unit itself was covered in the cellophane protective sheet and looked untouched, and all the accessories were there in sealed bags, looking as you would expect. BUT.. The box, despite the very good job at putting it back together as new, had TWO layers of tape on the flap..and I was very careful peelin the top layer off which revealed a CUT layer underneath. So my question is I guess, WHY would this have been sent out as new..? Is it a case of a particular batch being sent out to meet the discounted orders..? Personally I bought a brand new Touch, I don't want a used one. What's Logitech's position on this as I'm not 100% happy, and I want to be. The thought will always be there that my unit is perhaps second hand in some way.. Thanks. Same here, but since it was from the factory, I didn't give it a second thought... until now :-) Also, my unit was clean and showed no signs of use. No problems, plays great. -- Tony T Tony T's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34544 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78198 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 Perfromance Issue ( Solution!)
JohnSwenson;542750 Wrote: Thanks, that helps. At this point it looks like there are two possibilities, either connectivity issues (WiFi interference) or flac decompression issues. The easiest thing to test now is go to streaming PCM rather than flac. If its a flac decoding issue that should clear it up. If its a WiFi issue it might get worse. Many people have wifi interference issues even though they have a strong signal. The strong signal does not preclude interference, it just makes it less likely. If its a WiFi issue you night have to go wired to the server. John S. Is this the correct way to go to PCM streaming? Server settings - Advanced - File types Code: File Format Stream Format Decoder FLACFLACDisabled MP3 flac/lame PCM flac I did this but it seems to be down-converting. Via iPeng More Info, it says file format FLAC, bitrate 2725kbps VBR (Converted to 1411.3kpbs ABR). -- mkt mkt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14921 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77080 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 Perfromance Issue ( Solution!)
Its definitely NOT downsampling. Yes you did it right. So if that fixes it, are you working well now? John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77080 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 Perfromance Issue ( Solution!)
Ooops, one other thing, you should have the MP3 disabled in that list just to make sure it doesn't decide to send MP3 instead of PCM. John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77080 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Adjusting text size
In the old SB2 there is an option on the remote to change text size. How would I do that on the Touch? The text size is too small given the multiple lines and small size of the screen. -- agentsmith Main System: Source: Macbook Pro/M2Tech HiFace/Naim DAC/Teddy XPS Amplification: Naim 282/200/Hicap+Powerline/NAPSC Speakers: Harbeth Monitor 30 Bedroom System: SB2 or Airport Express + Meridian AD88 Missing my Transporter agentsmith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78217 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Does touch support NTP? How do you set the time!?
local.bin;542767 Wrote: The fact is the booms connected to the touch server are 5 minutes slow Is the time on the Touch and the Boom's in sync? Does the Touch have a different time than the Boom that is using the Touch as a server? -- pounce pounce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78209 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Adjusting text size
There is no such option with the Touch. There's a fairly long list of capabilities that the SB2, SB3 and Transporter had that the Touch does not. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78217 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Adjusting text size
Hm This kind of rules it out as a coach remote controlled device. I have good eyes but to read artists/albums 12 ft away at that point size is not realistic. I thought Logitech is a much more experienced consumer goods company, haven't they done ergonomics testings? Haven't they tried it from a living room environment themselves? That was almost the killer function for the SB2, which could have super size text on the screen that is clearly displayed and controlled from across the room. -- agentsmith Main System: Source: Macbook Pro/M2Tech HiFace/Naim DAC/Teddy XPS Amplification: Naim 282/200/Hicap+Powerline/NAPSC Speakers: Harbeth Monitor 30 Bedroom System: SB2 or Airport Express + Meridian AD88 Missing my Transporter agentsmith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78217 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Experiencing Touch for a couple of days
Ali Tait;542773 Wrote: have no problem playing 24/96 beyond an occasional stutter at the start when I change tracks.I can live with that. You can live with stutters when changing tracks? Are you kidding me? -- RadioClash RadioClash's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2839 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78211 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Adjusting text size
There are two skins, the Touch and the Remote. The Touch is used when you actually touch the screen, it has text and buttons. The text is the smaller size. The Remote skin is activated when you use the IR remote, it has larger text but no buttons. The text on the Remote skin is smaller than the largest text on the SB3. There are a couple things you can do about this: 1) get a remote with a local screen so you don't have to look across the room. A very popular one is an iPod Touch running the iPeng app, this shows the information right on the remote. There are also remote apps available for many other devices with local screens such as PDAs or Phones with Windows Mobile or Android phones. 2) use custom clock applet to make yourself a now playing screensaver that has LARGE text. Of course as you get larger text there is less you can show on the screen at once, so you will probably have to forgo cover art, and just have text. If the text is really large you probably will either have to do a lot of scrolling or wrap the text. John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78217 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Adjusting text size
Thanks John. I do use iPeng from my iPhone. But my habit is I fall back to the LCD screen, there is something about Laid back music surfing from the coach, it is just more relaxing. I am not sure if I fully comprehend how the 2 different skins activates, are they supposed to change mode automatically depending on my access method? I will try tonight when I get home. -- agentsmith Main System: Source: Macbook Pro/M2Tech HiFace/Naim DAC/Teddy XPS Amplification: Naim 282/200/Hicap+Powerline/NAPSC Speakers: Harbeth Monitor 30 Bedroom System: SB2 or Airport Express + Meridian AD88 Missing my Transporter agentsmith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78217 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Using touch with RipNas
Your setup would be possible if the RipNAS is capable of running SBS. The built-in SBS on the Touch will only serve directly attched USB devices and SD cards. -- foxx foxx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36364 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78208 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch