[SlimDevices: Touch] Mount other NFS Devices
Hi I have a Touch and an 32GByte SD card with ext3 Filesystem and i see all Directorys and Files. Now i try to mount my Music located on a NAS Server. With fedora Linux V13 it works without Problems. When i try to mount the same NAS Directory to the Touch /Public Directory i get an I/O Error. The Command are: mount -t nfs -o ro pub-nas01:/nfs/Public /media/mmcblk0p1/Public The SD Card was created with the Command mkfs.ext /dev/sdf1 on a Dreambox DM8000 Device. Thanks for Help Regards obraendl -- obraendl obraendl's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=23404 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80263 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch TinySC - Limited to Sync for SB Classic?
JJZolx;559801 Wrote: > You mean this one, right? (also known as the Squeezebox 3): > > . > > No, the SB Classic should be able to play independenatly of whatever is > playing on the Touch. It should play your FLAC files with no problem > and you should be able to listen to two different songs at the same > time. I too have a Touch and a SB3, and I also want to tho the same thing - use Touch with external HDD as a server and have my old SB3 accessing music from the HDD and playing it in my bedroom. I think that I've read somewhere that it is possible, but I do not now how to do it! I can't find the detailed explanation. There is nothing in Touch's user manual or documentation. Is there any detailed, step by step guide how to do it? . -- Kuja Kuja's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32935 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80223 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch TinySC - Limited to Sync for SB Classic?
Kuja;560118 Wrote: > I too have a Touch and a SB3, and I also want to tho the same thing - > use Touch with external HDD as a server and have my old SB3 accessing > music from the HDD and playing it in my bedroom. > > I think that I've read somewhere that it is possible, but I do not now > how to do it. Attach USB drive to Touch, start the Touch's internal SBS server. >From the SB3 you simply connect to Touch as a server, same as when you connect SB3 to your computer and/or MySB.com Press & hold SB3 back arrow, enter setup, scroll to "connect to Touch", arrow right. You are now connected to your Touch and have full access to your HD music from BOTH SB3 and Touch, independently. :) -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80223 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] conection reset by remote host!!!
Try rebooting the router (unplugging it) and your computer (if running SBS on a computer). I think MySB.com was having some issues yesterday, there are a few posts about intermittent issues with streams. -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80261 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch will not read USB Flash Drive
Some USB flash drives are just simply incompatible with Touch. Another forum member suggested running the Error Correction utility on the USB device. This did not help my two USB flash drives become usable on my Touch, maybe you will be lucky. ;) -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80256 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How much would you pay for a Touch Wall Mount?
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80231 Question: How much would you be willing to pay for a Touch Wall Mounting Bracket? - $24.95 - $25 to 49.99 - $50 to $75.00 - I don't need one so not at any price! I wouldn't pay more than £10, it's just a piece of plastic isn't it? What makes it worth $50! -- dave77 Boom - Controller - Touch - Joggler(SqueezePlay) - SBS 7.5 on Acer Revo R3610 Win7 dave77's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=26269 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80231 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How much would you pay for a Touch Wall Mount?
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80231 Question: How much would you be willing to pay for a Touch Wall Mounting Bracket? - $24.95 - $25 to 49.99 - $50 to $75.00 - I don't need one so not at any price! dave77;560132 Wrote: > I wouldn't pay more than £10, it's just a piece of plastic isn't it? > What makes it worth $50! That you need it and it has to be expensive enough for someone to make it worthwhile making and distributing it. Doesn't really help you if you say "it's just cheap plastic" if in the end you can't get one when you need it. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80231 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] sb classic going cheap at pc world
They are selling them off at £59.97 i've just picked one up from Mansfield. theres not many left but worth ringing pc world and finding if your local store as any, item code is 424887 i know theres some in Bimingham and Hull Good luck -- silvermilnec silvermilnec's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38940 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80265 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch TinySC - Limited to Sync for SB Classic?
toby10;560124 Wrote: > Attach USB drive to Touch, start the Touch's internal SBS server. > From the SB3 you simply connect to Touch as a server, same as when you > connect SB3 to your computer and/or MySB.com > Press & hold SB3 back arrow, enter setup, scroll to "connect to Touch", > arrow right. > You are now connected to your Touch and have full access to your HD > music from BOTH SB3 and Touch, independently. :) Hmmm... I hoped that it would be that simple! :) Unfortunately, in my case it is not. :( My SB3 was previously connected to my PC with wired ethernet connection. Now I did a factory reset on it. When i power it up, first I have to setup networking. I have a choice to connect it with wired ethernet or wireless connection. I chose wireless since I want it to connect to my Touch. Touch is turned on, its internal server is running (and already playing some music from a 8GB SD card) Then on my SB3 I'm asked to choose region. I chose Europe, since I live in Europe. Next option is: "Choose your wireless network (SSID):" Here, I can see varius neighbours wireless networks, but I don't see my Touch I also have the option "enter a network name". I tried to enter "Touch", then i typed "SqueezeboxTouch" since I found this in Touh's menu, Squeezeserver information section, under "hostname". After this I got the "choose encryption" message. I choose "none", since I did not set any encryption on my Touch (I never connected it to any wireless network since I bought it). Next I pressed many times the right arrow, trying to connect with various Touch network names, but nothing happened - I only get the message "cannot find the wireless network, Left to back, right to try again" What I'm doing wrong? Do I have to set something else on my Touch? On Touch, under "Advanced settings" I have "networking", there I can choose type of network. When I choose "wireless", I only get the same list of neighbours networks. There is no option to setup anything. Why didn't Logitech explain this setup procedure somewhere? Please help! . -- Kuja Kuja's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32935 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80223 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch TinySC - Limited to Sync for SB Classic?
Your Touch is not a wireless network. That's why you don't see it in the list of networks along with your neighbors' networks. Do you have a home network with a wireless router? You need to connect both the Touch and the SB3 to your home router, either wirelessly or via wired ethernet. The Touch and SB3 can't connect directly to each other. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80223 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How much would you pay for a Touch Wall Mount?
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80231 Question: How much would you be willing to pay for a Touch Wall Mounting Bracket? - $24.95 - $25 to 49.99 - $50 to $75.00 - I don't need one so not at any price! pippin;560141 Wrote: > That you need it and it has to be expensive enough for someone to make > it worthwhile making and distributing it. If it was more affordable then more people may buy it. Has anyone tried 'velcro' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velcro)'ing the Touch to a wall :) -- dave77 Boom - Controller - Touch - Joggler(SqueezePlay) - SBS 7.5 on Acer Revo R3610 Win7 dave77's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=26269 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80231 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] conection reset by remote host!!!
i woke up this morning with the hope it would be solved by now but nothing, it just wont connect to any kind of internet station same message, is the device faulty? do i have to put an RMA and apply for the warranty? i bought the device specifically to play online radio stations, it just gets me mad my $150 nokia can play online stations better then the sbtouch, any other suggestions? -- scrutinity scrutinity's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38484 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80261 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Visualizations
Hello, Aside from the installed visualizations ( VU meter ,spectrum analyzer) are there other visualizations that can be installed into the touch thanks, -- tomasito tomasito's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34926 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80267 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How much would you pay for a Touch Wall Mount?
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80231 Question: How much would you be willing to pay for a Touch Wall Mounting Bracket? - $24.95 - $25 to 49.99 - $50 to $75.00 - I don't need one so not at any price! pippin;559827 Wrote: > While this is not completely fair (as I do HAVE one from the beta > program) I'm currently pretty sure I would also pay for it if I had not > since I'm bringing it to good use now. Pippin, do you have any photos? I once thought I would wall mount my Touch, but then I got squeamish about putting a big hole in the wall, especially remembering that I do tend to move things around from time to time. But maybe seeing a nice installation would help me take the plunge. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80231 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How much would you pay for a Touch Wall Mount?
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80231 Question: How much would you be willing to pay for a Touch Wall Mounting Bracket? - $24.95 - $25 to 49.99 - $50 to $75.00 - I don't need one so not at any price! aubuti;560161 Wrote: > Pippin, do you have any photos? I once thought I would wall mount my > Touch, but then I got squeamish about putting a big hole in the wall, > especially remembering that I do tend to move things around from time > to time. But maybe seeing a nice installation would help me take the > plunge. Not yet. The installation if not yet done. The bathroom I want to put it in needs a complete makeover so the wall (or door) I'm putting it in is not yet there. I'll do photos when I'm done. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80231 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch TinySC - Limited to Sync for SB Classic?
aubuti;560148 Wrote: > Your Touch is not a wireless network. That's why you don't see it in the > list of networks along with your neighbors' networks. Do you have a home > network with a wireless router? You need to connect both the Touch and > the SB3 to your home router, either wirelessly or via wired ethernet. > The Touch and SB3 can't connect directly to each other. No I unfortunately do not have a wireless router. :( I can't find where on Logitech site I've read about Touch's ability to act as a server for other SB products. I got the impression that it can be done directly without external router. It seemed logical and possible, since it has wireless antenna, embedded server and everything... >From end users point of wiew (who knows very little about servers, unix, networking, etc.) there should be no need for external router. After all, Touch is some kind of a lifestyle audio device. You should not be a computer networking expert to set it up in some more advanced configurations. The user manual is very uninformative. It seems that Logitech is sometimes very vague when describing possibilities of their products. When I bought my Touch i was not aware of various issues when connecting USB devices. :) -- Kuja Kuja's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32935 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80223 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] sb classic going cheap at pc world
I just called up and there are none in my area ... although Harlow, Brentfield, Basildon and Bexhill have them... Shame... -- JonWill SB Classic, Musical Fidlity A1, Mission 733i speakers SB Boom, Logitech Z4 subwoofer SB Server running on a Synology DS210J NAS JonWill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20259 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80265 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch TinySC - Limited to Sync for SB Classic?
And yes, :) If I buy wireless router, then how do I set everything? Do I have to install a new SqueezeServer on my PC? For me, the major point for getting Touch was a possibility to completely get rid of PC. Now a need for an external router enters and I'm not that happy. :) What next is needed? :) -- Kuja Kuja's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32935 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80223 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch TinySC - Limited to Sync for SB Classic?
The Touch _can_ act as a server for other SBs. It works quite well. But it is not a router. An embedded music server has absolutely nothing to do with managing network traffic, handing out IP addresses, serving as a wireless access point, etc. The SB line are "network music players." The system requirements don't say you need to have a home network because technically speaking you don't, but the expectation is that most users of NMPs will have a home network. Do you not have a home network at all, even a wired router? -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80223 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch TinySC - Limited to Sync for SB Classic?
Kuja;560165 Wrote: > And yes, :) > > If I buy wireless router, then how do I set everything? > > Do I have to install a new SqueezeServer on my PC? > > For me, the major point for getting Touch was a possibility to > completely get rid of PC. > > Now a need for an external router enters and I'm not that happy. :) > > What next is needed? :) Follow the instructions of the router manufacturer and your computer operating system to setup the home network and connect your computer(s) to it. Even if it's a wireless router, use wired ethernet connections whenever possible because they are more reliable, less subject to interference from your neighbors' networks, cordless phones, microwaves, and so forth. Your computer, your SB3, and your Touch will all connect to the network as separate devices. Believe me, connecting them to the router is more straightforward than whatever way you had your computer and SB3 connected directly to each other. You don't need to install a new SBS on your computer, but you should be aware that the Touch's built-in server has more limited functionality than SBS running on a PC. In particular, the Touch's built-in server (TinySBS) cannot be controlled by SBS's web interface and cannot transcode. TinySBS cannot run server-based plugins, but it can run a number of applets. These limitations may not matter to you, and if they don't, then TinySBS may serve you well. If you do plan to use SBS on your pc from time to time it's a good idea to make sure that it's the same version as TinySBS running on the Touch. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80223 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch TinySC - Limited to Sync for SB Classic?
Thanks a lot! :) You are very helpful! aubuti;560167 Wrote: > The Touch _can_ act as a server for other SBs. It works quite well. But > it is not a router. An embedded music server has absolutely nothing to > do with managing network traffic, handing out IP addresses, serving as > a wireless access point, etc. When I bought Touch, I didn't know this and what was needed for everything to work. I think that all this should be in the manual and in the product description. I'm not a network expert, but I'm not computer illiterate. I have custom built, setup and I maintain my 4 PCs (I'm a photographer and a graphic designer and I depend on my computers). I can only imagine how it can be for some less experienced PC users. Logitech documentation is severely lacking. aubuti;560167 Wrote: > The system requirements don't say you need to have a home network > because technically speaking you don't, but the expectation is that > most users of NMPs will have a home network. > > Do you not have a home network at all, even a wired router? Yes I do have a (some sort of) home network. But no router! :) My home network consists of my laptop and my graphic workstation that, when needed, are connected directly via "cross" ethernet cable. My "Internet" mini PC is connected to my cable modem via USB. My SB Touch is connected directly to my cable modem via second "cross" ethernet cable. My SB3 is connected directly to my "Internet" PC via third "cross" ethernet cable. I always wanted to separate my workstations from hazards of the Internet, so I never needed a router that would connect together all my PCs. So yes, there are users of "network music players" who are not using routers. The need for a router should be stated in system requirements when mentioning other Touch's connecting possibilities. Logitech should not expect that I already have a router. And worse, this setup scenario is not even mentioned in user manual, let alone explained. . -- Kuja Kuja's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32935 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80223 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch TinySC - Limited to Sync for SB Classic?
Kuja;560175 Wrote: > I always wanted to separate my workstations from hazards of the > Internet, so I never needed a router that would connect together all my > PCs. You could connect the computers together via a router without exposing them to the internet. And with basic router technology and firewall software it is easy to expose them to the internet without a lot of risk. Probably with a lot less risk than your current setup of having your "internet pc" connected directly to your modem, where it is very exposed unless you've done something special to use a private IP address instead of the public IP address it gets from the cable modem. After seeing your details I concede that it may well be possible to work the Touch into your setup without a router, but it would have to be wired, not wireless. And you'd probably have to set up one of your PCs as a go-between. But a router would be a lot easier. And probably more secure as well. Decent consumer wireless routers are available for around US$50, so that would be my advice. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80223 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] conection reset by remote host!!!
Which server are you connecting your Touch too? - SBS on your computer - SBS inbuilt on Touch - MySB.com -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80261 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch TinySC - Limited to Sync for SB Classic?
Network can mean a number of different setups. Your current network is daisy-chained computers & devices via cross-over cables. The more common and simpler network is a single router that all devices connect to. Then others will have hubs & switches off of the router for other connections. Some ISP's provide the router (even WiFi routers), while others do not. Point being, it is not easy to describe every possible "network" configuration scenario on a small retail box. Being a network device they assume you have a network, just as they assume you already have music (also not included in the box). ;) -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80223 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Are there any cheap options for a Better Touch Power Supply?
Do you think one of these might work? Obviously it requires termination http://uk.rs-online.com/web/search/searchBrowseAction.html?method=getProduct&R=2243962 -- adamdea adamdea's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37603 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79977 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] conection reset by remote host!!!
there's been a development. *when connected to MySB.com / connection reset by remote host cant do nothing but browse through flikr and facebook apps *when connected to sbs in computer / everything works, online stations browsing through my music in pc etc. *when connected to my freenas sbs / can browse through my nas music but when i wanna acess anything online it says (couldnt resolve ip address for: www.mysqueezebox.com) i dont use the inbuilt sbs. thanks toby for your follow up, hope we can figure out what the problem is -- scrutinity scrutinity's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38484 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80261 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] conection reset by remote host!!!
NAS devices have been known to have DNS errors, might try the 3rd party/NAS forum here for more info. Maybe just close SBS and restart SBS may resolve it. If switching from computer SBS to MySB do you still get the error? Or just when switching fron NAS to MySB? I don't know if the same diagnostics are on NAS SBS, but on the computer SBS click on the Diagnostics tab to see if all ports are OK for internet use. If they are not OK then something is preventing your NAS from seeing the internet. -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80261 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How much would you pay for a Touch Wall Mount?
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80231 Question: How much would you be willing to pay for a Touch Wall Mounting Bracket? - $24.95 - $25 to 49.99 - $50 to $75.00 - I don't need one so not at any price! dave77;560157 Wrote: > If it was more affordable then more people may buy it. > > Has anyone tried 'velcro' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velcro)'ing the > Touch to a wall :) If one isn't going to put a hole in the wall, instead of Velcro, why not just put a stylish shelf on the wall to set it on. With Velcro, the wires are still all exposed so why not just a shelf. The whole idea in my mind for even wall mounting the Touch is for a clean install with all wiring hidden in the walls. And somebody said something about it just being cheap plastic, what about the Mold Dye that has to be made and the minimum run of units? There are many more costs then just the small amount of plastic involved with the wall mount itself. My biggest issue was with the proposed MSRP of $99 when we got word they were looking at selling one. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1 Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Second Boom Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80231 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch TinySC - Limited to Sync for SB Classic?
toby10;560191 Wrote: > Being a network device they assume you have a network, just as they > assume you already have music (also not included in the box). ;) Word! -- ghostrider ghostrider's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18959 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80223 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] conection reset by remote host!!!
toby10;560203 Wrote: > NAS devices have been known to have DNS errors, might try the 3rd > party/NAS forum here for more info. > Maybe just close SBS and restart SBS may resolve it. ((have closed it, > restarted it, uninstalled and installed again nothing!!)) > If switching from computer SBS to MySB do you still get the error? Or > just when switching fron NAS to MySB? ((either way, going from computer > sbs to mysb.com or from nas sbs to mssb.com, as long as im logged in to > mysb.com it will say the same message, last thing i tried was restore > to defualt and create a new account and it automatically logs in to > sbs.com for the account you just created, same message, have you heard > of this problem before??, if the problem would arouse when been > connected to to the nas sbs then i would look into the nas for it would > be clear the nas is the problem, but if it cant play any stations with a > new account on mysb.com then i dont think the nas is the problem))) > > I don't know if the same diagnostics are on NAS SBS, but on the > computer SBS click on the Diagnostics tab to see if all ports are OK > for internet use. > If they are not OK then something is preventing your NAS from seeing > the internet. . -- scrutinity scrutinity's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38484 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80261 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch in a car
I have been thinking about this and as long as you use a FLASH drive and have RCA inputs on your in car system then there is no problem. You could also update the music collection via wiFi when parked on your drive. Caveats... 1. A HD drive may smash the heads into the platters going over bumps unless properly mounted. 2. The device runs off 5V so will have to be regulated down. 3. Check the standby current when off. It could flatten your battery if not driven. I have not measured it, but 3.6W in standby (posted here elsewhere) will completely flatten a 50Ah car battery in a week (and stuff your car battery in the process). It will not fully recover from a deep discharge. If your music collection is small, then you could turn off completly as a power on rescan should be quickish. -- Waldo Pepper Waldo Pepper's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=39029 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80255 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch in a car
Waldo Pepper;560225 Wrote: > I have been thinking about this and as long as you use a FLASH drive and > have RCA inputs on your in car system then there is no problem. > > You could also update the music collection via wiFi when parked on your > drive. > > Caveats... > > 1. A HD drive may smash the heads into the platters going over bumps > unless properly mounted. > > 2. The device runs off 5V so will have to be regulated down. > > 3. Check the standby current when off. It could flatten your battery if > not driven. I have not measured it, but 3.6W in standby (posted here > elsewhere) will completely flatten a 50Ah car battery in a week (and > stuff your car battery in the process). It will not fully recover from > a deep discharge. If your music collection is small, then you could > turn off completly as a power on rescan should be quickish. Think more outside of the box. I use a 12V to 5V 4Amp DC/DC power supply that is wired to a switched hot IE key must be in the Start/On position for the Touch to draw power. No battery draw unless driving. I have had no issues using Toshiba USB powered USB Drives. Probably because they are portables and designed to take some knocking around as well as sitting on a small piece of memory foam in the lower cubby hole. And even if you don't have Aux In on your head unit, some factory units can have an adapter added to get the signal in though I highly recommend after market head units with Aux In. Or one can just use a small Inverter to power Touch via the OEM PS and then even use external powered USB drive since one has the inverter to plug it into. Could you update over WiFi, I guess so, but why bother. Its a USB drive, bring it in and do a direct update over a USB Cable. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1 Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Second Boom Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80255 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] conection reset by remote host!!!
Connect touch to MySB, then on Touch go to Settings > Advanced > Diagnostics What are the results for: IP: Address, Subnet, Gateway DNS MySB IP Ping TCP ports 3483 and 9000 MySB Registration status Don't bother creating new MySB accounts, that's not the problem (and could possibly cause more problems). ;) -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80261 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] conection reset by remote host!!!
scrutinity;560223 Wrote: > ... > *when connected to sbs in computer / everything works, online stations > browsing through my music in pc etc..[/url]) scrutinity;560223 Wrote: > if the problem would arouse when been connected to to the nas sbs > then i would look into the nas for it would be clear the nas is the > problem DNS via NAS is just a guess. But if it works fine on your computer yet does not work on NAS then the NAS is an issue. Whether this is the whole problem I cannot say. Another thing to try: unplug Touch unplug router plug router back in (wait till it completely reboots) plug Touch back in try MySB again -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80261 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] conection reset by remote host!!!
toby10;560231 Wrote: > Connect touch to MySB, then on Touch go to Settings > Advanced > > Diagnostics > > What are the results for: > IP: Address, Subnet, Gateway > DNS > MySB IP > Ping > TCP ports 3483 and 9000 > MySB Registration status > > Don't bother creating new MySB accounts, that's not the problem (and > could possibly cause more problems). ;) IP: Address, Subnet, Gateway / 192.168.10.112 / 255.255.255.0 / 192.168.10.1 DNS: 192.168.10.1 MySB IP: 66.150.114.115 Ping OK TCP ports 3483 and 9000 OK MySB Registration status REGISTERD -- scrutinity scrutinity's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38484 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80261 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] conection reset by remote host!!!
scrutinity;560249 Wrote: > IP: Address, Subnet, Gateway / 192.168.10.112 / 255.255.255.0 / > 192.168.10.1 > DNS: 192.168.10.1 > MySB IP: 66.150.114.115 > Ping OK > TCP ports 3483 and 9000 OK > MySB Registration status REGISTERD All looks good. And it still won't play when connected to MySB? -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80261 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Disable audio outputs when off?
Any updates on this feature? I see that it's been assigned on bugzilla, but there hasn't been any updates in some time. -- johsti johsti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30997 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77360 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Are there any cheap options for a Better Touch Power Supply?
JohnSwenson;558905 Wrote: > Here is the design: > > http://johnswenson1.home.comcast.net/stereo/SB_5V.GIF > Looks like a fun little project John, I'm interested to have a crack at it. Couple questions: 1. Sorry if this is a stupid one but what is the "KK1 SK104"? 2. Have you made a board for this or do you just wire it up on a stripboard? If the former do you have a Gerber file or even a spare board you would be prepared to sell? JohnSwenson;558905 Wrote: > The Hammond choke is a little hard to find Mouser stocks everything specified on the schematic (including the Hammond choke) except the Linear Technologies reg. They stock a Diodes Inc. version, but based on your comments I assume that is probably best avoided. The LT part is in stock at Digi-Key at $8 however I managed to snag a handfull in the TO-3P package at about half that from a fleabay seller in Poland. Result! -- struts struts's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14057 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79977 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] conection reset by remote host!!!
ok so i dont know what did it cause i did a couple of things, i updated my freenas version from 7.5.0 to 7.5.1 uninstalled and reinstalled the new version, followed the indications you gave me about unplugging the sbtouch and the router and plugged the sbtouch when the router was already initiated, when the sbtouch booted it said something about some wrong configurations and that i needed to restore to factory, i did so and the msb.com now works independently without having to switch to sbs on my pc, im only left to fix my nas, when i change to my nas library it says: A mysqueezebox.com account is required for this service. Please access Squeezebox Server Settings -> mysqueezebox.com with a web browser to configure. thanks for all your help toby, i was concerned it was some hardware defect but it must of been some software or configuration thing going on, im just baffled of how it happened with no apparent reason and its pretty much taken me all day to figure out and im not even sure what was the cause, any ideas on my last problem? -- scrutinity scrutinity's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38484 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80261 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] plugins how to?
All the plugin how to seems to be aimed at users with software on computers, or have i missed something? could someone direct me on how to get and use the art flow plugin. Many thanks Silver -- silvermilnec silvermilnec's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38940 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80278 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] SB Touch Initial Setup - Firmware
Hello, A friend just bought an SB Tocu after my glowing review but is having real dificulties getting it to connect to mysqueezebox.com to get the firmware to even get the thing up and running. His laptop is connected to the internet via a mobile internet dongle. Should it still work with an ethernet cable plugged from the laptop to the SB Touch? I did see a post somewhere saying there was a way around this if you didn't have a network but I cannot find it at the moment. Is it possible to get around this without the SB Touch connecting to the internet? Could the files be downloaded onto the laptop and transferred? I'm guessing that may be a bit tricky even if it is possible. Many thanks -- woodnut woodnut's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38846 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80279 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] plugins how to?
silvermilnec;560278 Wrote: > All the plugin how to seems to be aimed at users with software on > computers, or have i missed something? could someone direct me on how > to get and use the art flow plugin. That's correct, because you can't run plugins if you're using the SB Touch's built-in server (TinySBS). You can't run plugins on mysqueezebox.com either. You can only run plugins on a computer or NAS running SBS. However, you can run applets on the SB Touch, so that's what you should be looking for. It's been a while since I've installed any new applets, but look in the Touch's menu under Settings > Advanced. To get the full range of choices you will need to enable 3rd party applets. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80278 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SB Touch Initial Setup - Firmware
If I understand, the laptop is connected via some sort of 3G network (not WIFI or local ethernet). Does he plan on using the TOUCH with only local music files (i.e., NOT any internet radio, pandora, etc.)? I'm not aware of any way to get the firmware on indirectly (I'm sure there is some highly technical way, via ssh'ing in to the TOUCH and changing certain files, but this would not be very straightforward for most folks). I suspect the best way to get the firmware installed is to take the touch to someone's house that does have WIFI, and setup the touch initially to use that WIFI network. then the firmware will install, etc. Then the TOUCH can be setup at the owner's location with an attached USB drive. But again, without the ability to access the internet and/or be attached to a local network, I'm not sure why the TOUCH was a good answer for this person. A large capacity ipod attached to his stereo would be simpler! -- garym garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80279 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SB Touch Initial Setup - Firmware
You can update the firmware via USB flash drive or SD memory card. Download the firmware from http://update.slimdevices.com/update/firmware/7.5.1/. You want the file fab4_7.5.1_r8837.bin. Put it in the root directory of the USB stick or SD card, and then plug the stick or card into the Touch. After that you probably need to use the Touch's menu to start the upgrade (Settings > Advanced > Software update). -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80279 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SB Touch Initial Setup - Firmware
Thanks for the quick reply. Yes I did suggest that the only way would be to take it somewhere where there is WIFI to get the firmware. The intention is to use the SB Touch connected by ethernet cable to the laptop which has the music on it. Yes it would be a shame to not be able to access the internet radio but it will still represent better sound quality than an ipod plus much larger capacity. thanks. -- woodnut woodnut's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38846 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80279 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SB Touch Initial Setup - Firmware
Great stuff. Thanks for the link. -- woodnut woodnut's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38846 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80279 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SB Touch Initial Setup - Firmware
aubuti;560286 Wrote: > You can update the firmware via USB flash drive or SD memory card. > Download the firmware from > http://update.slimdevices.com/update/firmware/7.5.1/. You want the file > fab4_7.5.1_r8837.bin. Put it in the root directory of the USB stick or > SD card, and then plug the stick or card into the Touch. After that you > probably need to use the Touch's menu to start the upgrade (Settings > > Advanced > Software update). Aha! Interesting. Useful stuff. I've just received a second TOUCH I'll be setting up in an internet-free location. I assumed I'd have to carry it back and forth to update on occasion. This will be easier -- garym garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80279 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Are there any cheap options for a Better Touch Power Supply?
struts;560274 Wrote: > > 1. Sorry if this is a stupid one but what is the "KK1 SK104"? > 2. Have you made a board for this or do you just wire it up on a > stripboard? If the former do you have a Gerber file or even a spare > board you would be prepared to sell? > 1: thats just the identifier for the heatsink. It was called SK104 in the heatsink library. I wanted to make sure the heatsink showed up in the schematic since it would burn up without it. 2: I never built a board for these, I just build them on terminal strips screwed into plywood. Really hi-tech! Perfboard would be fine. John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79977 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How much would you pay for a Touch Wall Mount?
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80231 Question: How much would you be willing to pay for a Touch Wall Mounting Bracket? - $24.95 - $25 to 49.99 - $50 to $75.00 - I don't need one so not at any price! This seems like a project tailor made for a CNC milling center. It could be made from either aluminum or some form of plastic. No need for molds, dies etc. Since we are not talking about gazillions of these the fairly slow throughput of a CNC milling machine would be fine. No overhead other than the design. Put a chunk of plastic or aluminum in the machine and let it go. John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80231 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Are there any cheap options for a Better Touch Power Supply?
JohnSwenson;560303 Wrote: > 1: thats just the identifier for the heatsink. It was called SK104 in > the heatsink library. Thanks for the snappy reply John. Assumed it was something like that since all the components on the schematic were accounted for. However I found the part directly based on the 'Aavid PN' (http://www.aavidthermalloy.com/cgi-bin/stdisp.pl?Pnum=531202b02500g) with no mention of that reference. Don't know if you ever get asked for help/advice on component sourcing for this but I built a Mouser spreadsheet for the BoM. Shoot me a PM with your email address if you'd like me to send it to you. -- struts struts's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14057 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79977 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Are there any cheap options for a Better Touch Power Supply?
Sorry to pester you, but did you see the link I posted on the last page. I would value your view on whether that might work for those of us too dumb/ lazy to make our own and too mean to pay for a 250 quid job -- adamdea adamdea's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37603 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79977 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How much would you pay for a Touch Wall Mount?
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80231 Question: How much would you be willing to pay for a Touch Wall Mounting Bracket? - $24.95 - $25 to 49.99 - $50 to $75.00 - I don't need one so not at any price! JohnSwenson;560305 Wrote: > This seems like a project tailor made for a CNC milling center. It could > be made from either aluminum or some form of plastic. No need for molds, > dies etc. Since we are not talking about gazillions of these the fairly > slow throughput of a CNC milling machine would be fine. No overhead > other than the design. Put a chunk of plastic or aluminum in the > machine and let it go. And the 'Cupcake CNC' (http://store.makerbot.com/cupcake-cnc/cupcake-cnc-deluxe-kit.html) that Pat mentioned looks about right. It handles plastic patterns up to 4"x4"x6", which is just about right (4" isn't tall enough, but 4" * 2^(0.5) would do fine). I don't know if Cupcake CNC can work with really nice plastics, though. Frankly I think you might do better building a wooden box with a scroll saw and some glue. -- peterw http://www.tux.org/~peterw/ Free plugins: 'AllQuiet' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/AllQuiet.html) 'Auto Dim/AutoDisplay' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/AutoDisplay.html) 'BlankSaver' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/BlankSaver.html) 'ContextMenu' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/ContextMenu.html) 'DenonSerial' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/DenonSerial.html) 'FuzzyTime' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/FuzzyTime.html) 'KidsPlay' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/KidsPlay.html) 'KitchenTimer' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/KitchenTimer.html) 'PlayLog' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/PlayLog.html) 'PowerCenter/BottleRocket' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/PowerCenter.html) 'SaverSwitcher' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SaverSwitcher.html) 'SettingsManager' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SettingsManager.html) 'SleepFade' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SleepFade.html) 'StatusFirst' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/StatusFirst.html) 'SyncOptions' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SyncOptions.html) 'VolumeLock' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/VolumeLock.html) peterw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2107 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80231 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How much would you pay for a Touch Wall Mount?
> (http://store.makerbot.com/cupcake-cnc/cupcake-cnc-deluxe-kit.html) > that Pat mentioned looks about right. It handles plastic patterns up to > 4"x4"x6", which is just about right (4" isn't tall enough, but 4" * > 2^(0.5) would do fine). I don't know if Cupcake CNC can work with > really nice plastics, though. Frankly I think you might do better > building a wooden box with a scroll saw and some glue. The cupcake can use a number of plastics. You can do amazing stuff with one. Using it only makes sense if you need some small number of them. For one, clearly make it out of wood. For 20 to 50, a cupcake would be fine. I'm not sure that the standard Cupcake can handle the length, it might. There are also folk who expanded the bay so they can make longer stuff. Its all open source, anyone can change it in any way. I know several of the folks who run makerbot, known from a group of geek in Brooklyn. I don't know anyone who has one :-) but I have been tempted. Carpenters have been doing cool stuff with wood for thousands of years. Its idea for custom work. -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch