Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Firmware Update Question (Home now)
I took the chance and updated the software and I believe it's the Touch's firmware. All is working good and streaming FLAC from my NAS sounds great. Is it normal when I turn off the Touch, the Touch displays the clock? Do I need to turn this off completely? I don't mind leaving the clock display on but just wondered whether this would continually make the Touch hot or do screen damage? Where do I go to change the clock time? User manual mentions nothing about this. Thanks Pat -- souwalker souwalker's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37673 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81508 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Firmware Update Question (Home now)
What software version is the Touch running now? If you QNAP is running 7.5.1 then the Touch version should be 8837 -- slate Main: Duet - Beresford Caiman - Carver A-500x - BW 704 Office: Duet - Technics SU-V50 - Stax SR84 Pro Server: Zotac IONITX-A, 4 GB, 1 TB WD EADS, Win7 w. 7.6 (SQLite) Tied together by D-Link DIR-655, DGS-1008D slate's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30502 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81508 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Firmware Update Question (Home now)
slate;572214 Wrote: What software version is the Touch running now? If you QNAP is running 7.5.1 then the Touch version should be 8837 Where do I check this on the Touch? I too added another album on my NAS. I got into the Squeezebox Server and I do not see the new album nor can I see where or how to refresh? I thought the SBS in the NAS will auto scan? Rgds Pat -- souwalker souwalker's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37673 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81508 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch Classic in sync, can't play high-rez music!
I've not actually downloaded the plugin to try it out but from what I'm reading, it doesn't do what I want it to do. If it could transfer the playlist from Classic to Touch and control all playback functions of the Touch (using the Classic), then that would be good. I need that because both the Classic and Touch are in the same room and the Touch has its IR receiver blocked. Transferring the playlist from Classic to Touch, then switching over to the Touch for direct playback control is not an option because then I'd have to physically remove the IR blocker from the Touch, then place it on the Classic. I'm trying to get used to direct control of the Touch now. -- Harmoniousdistortion Harmoniousdistortion's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40015 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81412 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/192
R Johnson;572099 Wrote: Thanks! Very noticeable difference graphically. Would it be audibly noticeable to me? Still to be determined... BTW, what software have you used? Any suggestions for free / low cost software to do this sort of analysis? try this: http://www.sonicvisualiser.org/ does a good visual graphic representation of frequencies in the files. As far as audacity, I've come across a couple of hi-res tracks it couldn't read correctly and apparently gave a false result. -- firedog Tranquil PC fanless WHS server running SqueezeServer; SB Touch slaved to Empirical Audio Pace Car; MF X-150 amp, MF V DAC3, Devore Gibbon Super 8 Speakers; Mirage MS-12 sub; Dual 506 + Ortofon 20 (occasional use); sometimes use PC with M-Audio 192 as digital source. SB Boom in second room. Arcam CD82 which I don't use anymore, even though it's a very good player. firedog's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11550 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74688 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch Review in upcoming Stereophile issue
ralphpnj;572013 Wrote: This is exactly my point: When reviewed by either Stereophile or TAS just about all of Logitech's networked music players have gotten very positive reviews and sometimes even more such as a listing in the Recommended Component Section but nonetheless music streaming and computer based digital audio are more often than not treated as an interesting divergence rather than a serious means of obtaining truly high end sound. I don't think this is exactly accurate. TAS has given quite a bit of space recently to digital audio, especially USB playback. Of course, they tend to focus on the very high end equipment - DACs costing $3000 and up, and Amarra, but I think they have come to regard digital streaming as a serious means of obtaining high end sound - especially when we talk about files of 96K res and above. There are at least a couple of regular reviewers there who are proponents of digital audio. Steven Stone and Neil Gader have both been quite positive about digital audio in many cases, and definitely do regard it as true high-end. At Stereophile, even Michael Fremmer, who's a big analogue proponent (not anti-digital) just reviewed software for digitizing LP's and recommended it's use, saying the 24/192 recordings he produced were of such good quality that he wouldn't have a problem listening to them on a regular basis, and that the use of software to apply the RIAA curve gave superior results to that of phono preamp circuitry. Of course he was also using expensive software and a phono preamp costing thousands, but that's his normal mode. -- firedog Tranquil PC fanless WHS server running SqueezeServer; SB Touch slaved to Empirical Audio Pace Car; MF X-150 amp, MF V DAC3, Devore Gibbon Super 8 Speakers; Mirage MS-12 sub; Dual 506 + Ortofon 20 (occasional use); sometimes use PC with M-Audio 192 as digital source. SB Boom in second room. Arcam CD82 which I don't use anymore, even though it's a very good player. firedog's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11550 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81346 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch Setup Advice
morthan;572179 Wrote: Thanks for your reply again. You've been very helpful. Could you please expand on the above? Whats 'vortebox'? How do you access it via a web interface? Sounds like a good solution but maybe beyond my technical capability. vortexbox is essentially a liunx operating system (see link) that is setup for SqueezeboxServer and disc ripping (among other things). One can also purchase a vortexbox appliance (a small computer already running Vortexbox). Read all about it here: http://vortexbox.org/about/ This may not be the answer for you. One has really four basic options. 1. run mysqueezebox.com (don't need your own computer on, but can't play your own music either. 2. Run SqueezeboxServer on your regular home computer (desktop, laptop, Mac or Windows, etc.). Easy to install SbS and point it to your own music. Downside is that you either need to leave it on 24/7, set up Wake on Lan, if your computer has this, or turn it on an off when you want to use your players. 3. Have a dedicated music server that is on 24/7. This could be a windows machine, a Mac, a machine running some flavor of linux (vortexbox for example is already setup for serving SbS) 4. connect USB drive to TOUCH and serve your SB players with tinySbS inside the Touch. You can also do a combination of 1 and 2. That is, use mysb.com with your computer off for internet radio, pandora, etc., and use SbS with computer on, only when you want to listen to your own music. -- garym garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81490 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Firmware Update Question (Home now)
souwalker;572216 Wrote: Yes. Touch is running 7.5.1.8837 I too added another album on my NAS. I got into the Squeezebox Server and I do not see the new album nor can I see where or how to refresh? I thought the SBS in the NAS will auto scan? Rgds Pat only auto scan if you've set the music library scanning to auto scan at a certain time in Sbs settings. otherwise, you need to go into SbS Settings and do a scan to check for new and changed music. clock is screensaver. You can change this behavior or change the look of the clock screensaver. Erland also has some screensaver apps for the Touch. -- garym garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81508 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch and ceiling speakers
Have you considered powered speakers (audioengine A5 for example). No amp needed. But these are not ceiling speakers. -- garym garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81504 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Firmware Update Question (Home now)
garym;572255 Wrote: only auto scan if you've set the music library scanning to auto scan at a certain time in Sbs settings. otherwise, you need to go into SbS Settings and do a scan to check for new and changed music. clock is screensaver. You can change this behavior or change the look of the clock screensaver. Erland also has some screensaver apps for the Touch. Thanks I just did a scan for 'Look for new and changed music' and SBS only picked up on track from an album. I then selected 'Clear Library and rescan everything' and also just picked up 1 song from the new album. I then selected 'Only rescan Playlist' and also just picked up 1 song from that same album. I only have 2 albums in the folder 'Playlist'. Larry CarltonAlone But Never AloneFLAC files and John MayerBattle StudiesFLAC files. The rescan picked up all of Larry Carltons tracks but only 1 track for John Mayer. Only difference is there is an album cover for John Mayer but I don't see this as an issue as the album cover appears fine but just the 5th FLAC file from Battle Studies is picked up by the SBS rescan. I am stumped. Any thoughts? Rgds Pat -- souwalker souwalker's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37673 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81508 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Firmware Update Question (Home now)
souwalker;572260 Wrote: Thanks I just did a scan for 'Look for new and changed music' and SBS only picked up on track from an album. I then selected 'Clear Library and rescan everything' and also just picked up 1 song from the new album. I then selected 'Only rescan Playlist' and also just picked up 1 song from that same album. I only have 2 albums in the folder 'Playlist'. Larry CarltonAlone But Never AloneFLAC files and John MayerBattle StudiesFLAC files. The rescan picked up all of Larry Carltons tracks but only 1 track for John Mayer. Only difference is there is an album cover for John Mayer but I don't see this as an issue as the album cover appears fine but just the 5th FLAC file from Battle Studies is picked up by the SBS rescan. I am stumped. Any thoughts? Rgds Pat I'm a bit confused as to how you are adding the album files. Seems like you should be putting the new albums (with all the tracks) in your music library, not in your playlist directory. Playlist directory would hold your playlists, not the actual tracks. So for example, if your music library is: d:\music\artist\album\tracks you tell SbS that d:music is the location of your music library. Have you put the two new albums UNDER the appropriate artist subdirectory in d:\music? -- garym garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81508 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezbox Touch Third Party Apps
Hi, I've been using a ROKU M1001 Soundbridge for a about 5-7 years. It recently seems to have died. I'm considering the SB Touch. My question is, can someone point me to some good third party software which can control the SB touch. As an example, I have an app on my iPhone which could control my ROKU M1001. I also had a third party app installed on some of the computers in the house so anyone could control the ROKU. These third party apps detected the ROKU on the network and just sent commands to the device. The third party apps also had nice user interfaces to see play lists, album art, etc... So, point me to the third party apps out there and let me check em out. That's probably going to seal the deal for me if I can review some of those and see whats out there. Thanks! Looks like a great device. -- hopkils hopkils's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40117 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81515 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezbox Touch Third Party Apps
hopkils;572271 Wrote: Hi, I've been using a ROKU M1001 Soundbridge for a about 5-7 years. It recently seems to have died. I'm considering the SB Touch. My question is, can someone point me to some good third party software which can control the SB touch. As an example, I have an app on my iPhone which could control my ROKU M1001. I also had a third party app installed on some of the computers in the house so anyone could control the ROKU. These third party apps detected the ROKU on the network and just sent commands to the device. The third party apps also had nice user interfaces to see play lists, album art, etc... So, point me to the third party apps out there and let me check em out. That's probably going to seal the deal for me if I can review some of those and see whats out there. Thanks! Looks like a great device. ipeng app for iphones and itouch. I think there are similar apps for android phones. But you'll need SqueezeboxServer running before these apps will have anything to look at. you can download SqueezeboxServer which is the main software database that drives (serves) your music to any SB player. This is free and you can play around with it in advance. Also install SqueezePlay which can work as a software based SB player. So you can get an idea about how all this works without buying anything. This said, the hardware players are better at some things, including Synch. SqueezePlay can also serve as a controller for SB hardware players. get SbS here: http://www.logitech.com/en-us/439/5745?section=downloadsbit=osid=-1 Get Squeezeplay here: http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/?ver=7.5 -- garym garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81515 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch default to flac or mp3?
I have a Vortexbox streaming to the touch with the vortexbox burning the cds to flac with mp3 mirrored. Does the touch always default to the flac when playing or do I need to do something in settings? Thanks Greg ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch default to flac or mp3?
The Touch will play whatever you ask it to play. Squeezebox server doesn't have support for spotting that you have both a MP3 and FLAC version of a song. If Squeezebox server has been asked to read both your MP3 and FLAC folders then you'll see two versions of each song, which is probably not what you want. I haven't used VortexBox in a while, but I expect it has SBS setup to just read from the FLAC folder, which is what you want. -- andynormancx Yes, it will. Yes, all of them. Yes, SoftSqueeze as well. What ? I SAID ALL OF THEM ! andynormancx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17417 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81518 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch default to flac or mp3?
andynormancx;572293 Wrote: I haven't used VortexBox in a while, but I expect it has SBS setup to just read from the FLAC folder, which is what you want. correct. and if you have mp3 only files you want it to read, you just need to have them also stored under the vortexbox FLAC directory (i.e., you could have an mp3only subdirectory under the FLAC directory. The vortexbox mp3 directory is setup as a mirror of the flac files and not meant to be read by SbS for streaming. -- garym garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81518 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Dynamic Playlists Based on File Resolution
Thanks very much! I'll give it a try. I really appreciate it. -- clar2391 clar2391's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10417 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81483 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezbox Touch Third Party Apps
Take a look at this page for some control options: http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/PluginRemoteControls This is NOT a complete list. A favorite for use on Windows computers is Moose. The server (SBS) also has a web page which can be used to control the players from anything that has a web browser. Its not nearly as fancy as some of the programs that run directly on the computer but its usable from pretty much anything. John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81515 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] digital silence between tracks?
http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16146#c17 A fix was in 2 days ago it is in the latest 7.6 beta . My DAC does not exhibit the problem , so it can not report any difference -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 and assorted amps SiriuS, Classe' Primare and Dynadio speakers, Contour 4 Contour Center, and Contour 1.3SE for the rear ch. Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Miscellaneous use: Radio (with battery) I use a Controller various ir-remotes and a Eee-PC with squeezeplay to control this Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77849 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/192
JackOfAll;572163 Wrote: There has been quite some discussion about HDTracks and upsampled files over at the 'Audio Asylum PC Audio forum' (http://www.audioasylum.com/forums/pcaudio/bbs.html). A quick search should find the relevant threads. More than a few hi-res recordings have been ripped from SACD's that were themselves upsampled from 16/44k1 CD's. There are plenty of SACD releases out there that are nothing more than upsampled CD's. Also bear in mind that the track I chose to use to demonstrate had plenty of high frequency content up to 44K1 (half the 88k2 sample rate) so it shows the brickwall effect very well. There are plenty of high-res recordings that don't have much if any high freq above 20K. Could be for many reasons, not necessarily digital brickwall at half the original sampling rate. eg. analogue low pass filter. Or some of the Linn recordings that are advertised as 192K, were mixed at 96K then mastered at 192K. (But they clearly state that.) Even when HF content is present, in some cases it is not obvious. Someone with experience like BruceB can look at the high frequency content and differentiate DSD aliasing artefacts from real content. Which I believe he is now doing for all the SACD rips he does for HD Tracks after the upsampling != high res bruhaha. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that the only well defined case is the following one : You downsample a high resolution file, then upsample to the original sample rate, which gives you the very same, binary identical, original file. In that case, you are sure that there is no more information in the high resolution file, than in the downsampled one. Otherwise you can say nothing. I think it is easy to write a software which upsample a file, and mix it with high resolution noise, or whatever kind of reverse dithering dsp. This will add artificial high resolution data you can hardly distinguish from real high resolution recording. -- nicolas75 nicolas75's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15823 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74688 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] digital silence between tracks?
JohnSwenson;572145 Wrote: What firmware are you using? John S. Hi, I am using 9066 Paal -- paalj paalj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37761 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77849 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezbox Touch Third Party Apps
JohnSwenson;572304 Wrote: Take a look at this page for some control options: http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/PluginRemoteControls This is NOT a complete list. A favorite for use on Windows computers is Moose. The server (SBS) also has a web page which can be used to control the players from anything that has a web browser. Its not nearly as fancy as some of the programs that run directly on the computer but its usable from pretty much anything. John S. Another vote for Moose - it's not perfect but it is a good deal faster than using the SBS web interface. -- ralphpnj Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels - Snatch - The Transporter - Transporter 2 (oops) - Touch 'Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/jazzfann/) ralphpnj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10827 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81515 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/192
nicolas75;572334 Wrote: You downsample a high resolution file, then upsample to the original sample rate, which gives you the very same, binary identical, original file. If you've thrown away information above fs/2 when you downsampled it, you cant get it back by upsampling. So the binary file would never be identical in that case. nicolas75;572334 Wrote: I think it is easy to write a software which upsample a file, and mix it with high resolution noise, or whatever kind of reverse dithering dsp. This will add artificial high resolution data you can hardly distinguish from real high resolution recording. Sure, you could. Although I would expect someone with experience (like BruceB I mentioned in the post above) to be able to look at the HF content and decide whether it is real - harmonics, noise, digital artefacts. -- JackOfAll JackOfAll's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3069 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74688 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/192
nicolas75;572334 Wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that the only well defined case is the following one : You downsample a high resolution file, then upsample to the original sample rate, which gives you the very same, binary identical, original file. In that case, you are sure that there is no more information in the high resolution file, than in the downsampled one. Otherwise you can say nothing. I think it is easy to write a software which upsample a file, and mix it with high resolution noise, or whatever kind of reverse dithering dsp. This will add artificial high resolution data you can hardly distinguish from real high resolution recording. Nope. It's really easy to test if the information is noise or not. You just need to know how to use DSP tools to pitch-shift stuff... Anyone who has actually worked in modern recording studios knows how to do this. :-) -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74688 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Songs cut short
My Touch has been working fine since I bought it in July 2010, however it's recently started jumping onto the next track before the playing one has finished. This jump occurs about 2 mins before the end of the current track. It has previously played these before without flaw and I have not had a formware upgrade since. Any help appreciated. -- Waldo Pepper Waldo Pepper's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=39029 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81520 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch and ceiling speakers
How big is your budget? :-) http://www.klipsch.com/na-en/products/lightspeaker-system-overview/ -- SoulSurvivor SoulSurvivor's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22099 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81504 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch Review in upcoming Stereophile issue
firedog;572220 Wrote: I don't think this is exactly accurate. TAS has given quite a bit of space recently to digital audio, especially USB playback. Of course, they tend to focus on the very high end equipment - DACs costing $3000 and up, and Amarra, but I think they have come to regard digital streaming as a serious means of obtaining high end sound - especially when we talk about files of 96K res and above. There are at least a couple of regular reviewers there who are proponents of digital audio. Steven Stone and Neil Gader have both been quite positive about digital audio in many cases, and definitely do regard it as true high-end. Robert Harley has written several times about what great sound he gets from his music server (Lynx soundcard) and Berkley Alpha DAC, especially with 176k tracks. At Stereophile, even Michael Fremmer, who's a big analogue proponent (not anti-digital) recently reviewed Pure Vinyl software for digitizing LP's and recommended it's use, saying the 24/192 recordings he produced were of such good quality that he wouldn't have a problem listening to them on a regular basis (he didn't say they were as good as the original), and that the use of software to apply the RIAA curve gave superior results to that of phono preamp circuitry. Of course, he was also using expensive software and a phono preamp costing thousands, but that's his normal mode. Yes you're quite about the positive coverage that has appeared and continues to appear. No argument. My point is that since the CD was introduced audiophiles have longing for high resolution digital files. We got a good taste of how nice high resolution can sound with DVD-Audio and SACD but those two formats remain fairly marginal, with very little support on the software side. The ability to obtain and enjoy high resolution digital music (I always add the word digital because with analog one can easily obtain high resolution sound) exists via one's computer. The high end audio magazines should be covering this subject in greater depth. By greater depth I mean things like a review of the various music library management and playback software, information on some of the basics of how to organize and work with a digital music library and reviews of high resolution music available only as downloads. -- ralphpnj Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels - Snatch - The Transporter - Transporter 2 (oops) - Touch 'Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/jazzfann/) ralphpnj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10827 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81346 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Amazon drops SB Touch -- why?
Duh! Amazon is the gold standard on Internet selling/marketing. I suspect the REAL reason Logitech wants to be the sole online source is very simple... $$$! I'm sure the profit on Logitech direct selling is a helluva lot higher than via 3rd-party sites, but I suspect that Logitech will (eventually) realize that Amazon can move a far greater number of units, not to mention the added marketing clout. -- sleepysurf main system: touch benchmark dac-1 conrad-johnson ct-5 preamp and premier 350 amp ml summits. audience au24e and blue jeans cables. secondary systems: sb3 in master br (russound r235ls amp driving in-ceiling speaker) and game room (powered swan s200a speakers), with boom in home office. member of 'the tampa bay listening society' (http://www.thetbls.com/) sleepysurf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81426 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Firmware Update Question (Home now)
garym;572261 Wrote: I'm a bit confused as to how you are adding the album files. Seems like you should be putting the new albums (with all the tracks) in your music library, not in your playlist directory. Playlist directory would hold your playlists, not the actual tracks. So for example, if your music library is: d:\music\artist\album\tracks you tell SbS that d:music is the location of your music library. Have you put the two new albums UNDER the appropriate artist subdirectory in d:\music? I am abit confused Gary. I am using a QNAP NAS and I follword the following instrcutions to set the SSOTS and the Squeebox Server in the NAS. http://wiki.qnap.com/w/index.php?title=SSOTS_Installationprintable=yes Have I misunderstood the SBS instructions? My understanding is to create a 'Music' folder in Qmultimedia folder then create a 'Playlist' folder in the 'Music' folder. Then in the 'Playlist' folder, I create ArtistAlbumFLAC files. Best Rgds Patrick -- souwalker souwalker's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37673 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81508 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch Review in upcoming Stereophile issue
ralphpnj;572384 Wrote: By greater depth I mean things like a review of the various music library management and playback software, information on some of the basics of how to organize and work with a digital music library and reviews of high resolution music available only as downloads.I think that will come when/if/as the interests of our readers shifts in that direction. -- Kal Rubinson Kal Rubinson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40032 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81346 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch Review in upcoming Stereophile issue
I hope they will run it as total digital front end sans pre, would just like to read how S'phile feels it shakes out, configured as minimalist budget system ala John Marks 2k under search. -- trikisan trikisan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13061 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81346 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch and ceiling speakers
Thanks guys for your feedback! I think found a digital audio optical to analog L/R RCA converter at monoprice.com. This will allow me to extend from the SB Touch to the amp using an ultra-thin fiber cable snaked neatly through the counter-top. I have seen those Klipsh ceiling light/speakers. very interesting but very pricey. -- rpellegr rpellegr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81504 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Firmware Update Question (Home now)
You create a folder music and a folder for playlists (this may be inside the music folder) In the playlists folder you put any playlists. The actual music goes in the music folder (but not in the playlist folder). The time on the squeezebox shows the time of the nas. So if the time of the nas is wrong then the time on the squeezebox would be wrong. -- lrossouw Louis 'Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/lrossouw) lrossouw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3416 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81508 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Firmware Update Question (Home now)
lrossouw;572402 Wrote: You create a folder music and a folder for playlists (this may be inside the music folder) In the playlists folder you put any playlists. The actual music goes in the music folder (but not in the playlist folder). The time on the squeezebox shows the time of the nas. So if the time of the nas is wrong then the time on the squeezebox would be wrong. Thanks lrossouw. oops...now I know where I stuffed up. Tonight when I get home, I'll move those 2 artist to the Music folder instead of the Playlist folder and rescan. One question. I do not have to do anything to the Playlist folder, correct? I can leave this blank and let the Touch do the work? I am abit unsure of the Playlist whether i need to physically put tracks in there or let Touch do it when I create a playlist via Touch or SBS? Rgds Pat -- souwalker souwalker's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37673 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81508 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Firmware Update Question (Home now)
Standard .m3u format playlists (the kind that SBS creates) are simple text files that list the pathnames and filenames of the tracks in the playlist, in the desired order. So neither you nor SBS should ever put the actual tracks in the playlist folder. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81508 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch Review in upcoming Stereophile issue
Kal Rubinson;572395 Wrote: I think that will come when/if/as the interests of our readers shifts in that direction. Hopefully the upcoming reviews in Stereophile and TAS will help to bring about that shift in direction. -- ralphpnj Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels - Snatch - The Transporter - Transporter 2 (oops) - Touch 'Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/jazzfann/) ralphpnj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10827 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81346 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch and ceiling speakers
rpellegr;572399 Wrote: I think found a digital audio optical to analog L/R RCA converter at monoprice.com. This will allow me to extend from the SB Touch to the amp using an ultra-thin fiber cable snaked neatly through the counter-top. Something like this? http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=104cp_id=10423cs_id=1042302p_id=6884seq=1format=2 I haven't heard one of these converters, but I would have to think that it would be a major step down in sound quality from the DAC in the Touch. Also, you may want to consider in-wall volume controls for the kitchen, because I believe if you go really low on the Touch's volume control the sound quality will also suffer. It's better to keep the Touch's output high (100% with the digital outs) and then control volume at the preamp/amp, or further downstream with in-line volume controls. Since your amp will be out of reach, wall-mounted volume controls are a good idea. But maybe these things won't matter that much if you're mostly looking for background music in the kitchen, where acoustics usually suck anyway. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81504 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch Setup Advice
garym;572243 Wrote: vortexbox is essentially a liunx operating system (see link) that is setup for SqueezeboxServer and disc ripping (among other things). One can also purchase a vortexbox appliance (a small computer already running Vortexbox). Read all about it here: http://vortexbox.org/about/ This may not be the answer for you. One has really four basic options. 1. run mysqueezebox.com (don't need your own computer on, but can't play your own music either. 2. Run SqueezeboxServer on your regular home computer (desktop, laptop, Mac or Windows, etc.). Easy to install SbS and point it to your own music. Downside is that you either need to leave it on 24/7, set up Wake on Lan, if your computer has this, or turn it on an off when you want to use your players. 3. Have a dedicated music server that is on 24/7. This could be a windows machine, a Mac, a machine running some flavor of linux (vortexbox for example is already setup for serving SbS) 4. connect USB drive to TOUCH and serve your SB players with tinySbS inside the Touch. You can also do a combination of 1 and 2. That is, use mysb.com with your computer off for internet radio, pandora, etc., and use SbS with computer on, only when you want to listen to your own music. Thanks garym. I have looked into vortexbox and it looks good. One thing I am unsure about is whether it can also be used to store other media such as photos, videos and be used for backup? I am assumning that you cant use a Windows backup porgram on it? If it cant do back up can it still be used as a general media server rather than just a squeezebox one? -- morthan morthan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30644 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81490 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Firmware Update Question (Home now)
souwalker;572404 Wrote: Thanks lrossouw. oops...now I know where I stuffed up. Tonight when I get home, I'll move those 2 artist to the Music folder instead of the Playlist folder and rescan. One question. I do not have to do anything to the Playlist folder, correct? I can leave this blank and let the Touch do the work? I am abit unsure of the Playlist whether i need to physically put tracks in there or let Touch do it when I create a playlist via Touch or SBS? Rgds Pat You can leave the playlist folder empty for now. Later, when you have more music on the pc you may want to make a list of songs that you like or for a particular type of music or for occasion. E.g. a party playlist. It's just a list of songs. You can create these using using SBS or touch or more conveniently on your PC with most media player type software. save it as a playlist in the playlist folder. Of course you can have many different playlists listing various songs. Hope this gets you going. -- lrossouw Louis 'Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/lrossouw) lrossouw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3416 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81508 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch Setup Advice
morthan;572417 Wrote: Thanks garym. I have looked into vortexbox and it looks good. One thing I am unsure about is whether it can also be used to store other media such as photos, videos and be used for backup? I am assumning that you cant use a Windows backup porgram on it? If it cant do back up can it still be used as a general media server rather than just a squeezebox one? Yes, you can use a VortexBox as a general purpose network storage device, you can mount it on a Windows computer and it will work just like any other drive. Just make sure you don't do general backup to the directory where the music is stored! I had this happen once and every little bleep and boing in all the games wound up as songs to SBS! John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81490 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
