Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Can Not Connect to Advanced Settings
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75861 -- JJZolx JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82020 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Can Not Connect to Advanced Settings
Jim - do you know whether a bug has been filed for this? I need to investigate it. -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Can Not Connect to Advanced Settings
see also http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81959 Might only be for IE8 ? -- bonze TranquilPC T2-WHS-A3 - SqueezeCenter Version: 7.6.0 - r31321 3 x wireless SB3, and 2x Touch bonze's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6150 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82020 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Duplicate songs on Touch-How to remove?
ozzymilton;576747 Wrote: Does anyone have a way to delete the duplicates as mentioned in my original post above on the Sqeezeboz Touch ?? Itunes might have D:\music\xx\xx\xx.mp3. Squeezebox server would find that via the itunes integration. You may have the server pointed to \\MYPC\Music\ and in your case D:\Music and \\MYPC\Music may be the same folder. But the server would find the file named: \\MYPC\Music\music\xx\xx\xx.mp3. It wouldn't know that this is in fact the same file. You may also have the same issue with playlists containing such pointers to different files which would then be included in the scan. I would suggest browsing via the web interface to the song in question and see what the file is pointing too in each case. This should give you a clue if the above is the problem. -- lrossouw Louis 'Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/lrossouw) lrossouw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3416 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81965 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch Review in upcoming Stereophile issue
mlsstl;576615 Wrote: I'm not sure I understand why the Touch ended up a class D component. The issue has come up in a couple of forums and it seems there is some avoidance regarding an explanation. The Transporter got an A rating. Having used both in my home system I find the difference between the two relatively small even without taking the price difference into account. I would have thought a class B or at least a C rating would have been appropriate. Is the Touch just too cheap and small to rate higher? It seems an issue worth discussing. The Transporter LOOKS like an expensive audio component and COSTS like one. The Touch looks like a kid's video game and costs less than the cable that connects it to the amp. If they sounded alike, Stereophile would have to close shop and go home. So they can't sound alike. -- Pale Blue Ego Pale Blue Ego's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=110 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81346 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Ethernet connection and another question.
I'm still getting the drop outs. Any final ideas to try? I contacted Logitech support yesterday but I've yet to hear back. -- Steve W Steve W's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40470 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81970 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Wireless vs Ethernet. Any sound quality differences?
My SB Touch feeds a DAC by digital coaxial and then onto my amp. I'm keen to get the best sound quality possible. Should I expect there to be any difference in sound quality between the wireless connection and a physical ethernet connection? I don't really like the idea of wireless connection for HD music files (up to 24bit, 96kHz) but I am having trouble with occasional drop outs on the ethernet connection (looses sight of the ports momentarily) whilst the wireless shows no such issue. Can I go wireless and be confident that sound quality will not suffer? -- Steve W Steve W's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40470 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82026 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] I give up! SB Touch External HD Nightmare
I found the TinySC acceptable and, for the most part, worked quite well. That said, I switched to a dedicated server (a Mac Mini) as I did not like the re-buffering that I would get on the 1st song in a random mix (and as a headless server, it has other uses, such as a print server and backup server). Now, this 1st song re-buffering was a very minor annoyance (and might even be fixed by now), but I tend to be a bit of a perfectionist (I recently tagged all my Flac's with an ALBUMSORT equal to release date as I was annoyed that I could not view Albums by year when viewing by Artists). Anyway, I'm very happy with the Touch. -- Tony T Tony #63743; SBTouch #9834; SBRadio #9836; Tony T's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34544 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81784 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Wireless vs Ethernet. Any sound quality differences?
Steve W;576914 Wrote: My SB Touch feeds a DAC by digital coaxial and then onto my amp. I'm keen to get the best sound quality possible. Should I expect there to be any difference in sound quality between the wireless connection and a physical ethernet connection? I don't really like the idea of wireless connection for HD music files (up to 24bit, 96kHz) but I am having trouble with occasional drop outs on the ethernet connection (looses sight of the ports momentarily) whilst the wireless shows no such issue. Can I go wireless and be confident that sound quality will not suffer? When you copy a Word file over your Wi-Fi, does it end up corrupt? No it doesn't ;) The same thing is with music, Wi-Fi or Ethernet it's the same. If there is a problem, you will hear the music stop. ;) -- dcolak dcolak's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5864 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82026 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] I give up! SB Touch External HD Nightmare
JJZolx;576770 Wrote: No. Then someone decided to add a USB port and SD card slot? It didn't happen that way. It was designed to run a server from the minute that it was conceived. Whether or not it was a good idea is a topic for a different discussion. The usb/sd card could have been added with the sole purpose of using it as a picture frame when off. Just giving a counter point. -- m1abrams m1abrams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=850 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81784 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Wireless vs Ethernet. Any sound quality differences?
dcolak;576927 Wrote: When you copy a Word file over your Wi-Fi, does it end up corrupt? No it doesn't ;) The same thing is with music, Wi-Fi or Ethernet it's the same. If there is a problem, you will hear the music stop. ;) I also think the same but I still worry about audio quality/integrity. I worry about small, occasional data loss that could just contribute to jitter, poor clock timing or stereo imaging and hence degrade the audio quality subtly without actual drop out? If that is definitely not an issue then I may as well give up on the ethernet hassle and go wireless.. -- Steve W Steve W's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40470 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82026 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Displaying artwork issue
Most bizarre SBT behavior: It seems to be learning as it goes along!! The artwork that did not display at first, gradually came on as I listened to more albums and tracks, without any changes on my part. Has anyone experienced anything like this? Guido F. -- guidof guidof's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40448 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81950 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Wireless vs Ethernet. Any sound quality differences?
Steve W;576941 Wrote: I also think the same but I still worry about audio quality/integrity. I worry about small, occasional data loss that could just contribute to jitter, poor clock timing or stereo imaging and hence degrade the audio quality subtly without actual drop out? Remember that the Touch and earlier Squeezebox players contain a buffer that collects the incoming data stream and then parcels it out as needed. I once unplugged the CAT-5 cable to my SB3 and it continued to play perfectly for 7 or 8 seconds before it stopped. That's a long time in the world of data transmission. Also, if you just want to be paranoid, any delay or minor interruption in a wireless signal can be duplicated on a wired LAN that shares the data path with other computers. The only problem with wireless is it can be subject to interference from other wireless devices such as 2.4 GHz cordless phones, etc. It that's an issue you're going to notice it and it won't be subtle. Otherwise, my opinion is that if it is working, don't worry about it unless you're just determined to have a case of audiophilia nervosa one way or the other. -- mlsstl mlsstl's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9598 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82026 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Wireless vs Ethernet. Any sound quality differences?
Steve W;576941 Wrote: I also think the same but I still worry about audio quality/integrity. I worry about small, occasional data loss that could just contribute to jitter, poor clock timing or stereo imaging and hence degrade the audio quality subtly without actual drop out? If that is definitely not an issue then I may as well give up on the ethernet hassle and go wireless.. No no no no did I say no? :-) There is no data loss - even an audible drop out is not a loss but rather a delay... There's no jitter to be found here. The audio integrity etc is 100%. Unless you get drop-outs - which means that your network is broken and needs fixing... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82026 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] I give up! SB Touch External HD Nightmare
The Touch is a good idea badly executed - umm sounds like a typical Slim Devices product. Maybe in a year or two or three they will have something that does what they appear to be claiming this does now. What is the big deal? CPU power is dirt cheap, as is memory. If the Slim Devices folks worked for my company we would be out of business tomorrow. We don't sell to a bunch of masochistic geeks - that probably describes me. We sell to real users with real world needs. Anyway, all the solutions I have read are iffy or require something exotic. Both of which are the exact opposite of what I am trying to achieve. If I want unstable, unpredictable performance I'll just keep running my SB from my laptop. As I slowly figure out how to purge the HP bloatware it is improving. But is so loud! Here is a good question does anyone make a small (12), generic and very quiet laptop that runs Windows? No bloatware. I can live with a tiny SS HD just as long as I can run WiFi and a USB drive. I have a 7 netbook, but that is too small for my old eyes and even it has a fan. -- regalma1 regalma1's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6658 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81784 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] I give up! SB Touch External HD Nightmare
regalma1;576963 Wrote: The Touch is a good idea badly executed I respectively have to beg to differ. I have three that work perfectly with over 60k of files. Admittedly, I do use SbS on a server (not tinySbS). However, my brother uses a TOUCH connected via WIFI, tinySbS with an attached USB drive and about 50k files and it works perfectly for him, including serving the music to his bedside BOOM, also via WIFI. Since the day he set it up 6 months ago, It has simply worked and he only called me recently to ask whether he should say OK for the update screen. He did, and it updated and continued working. And he knows nothing about how it works, how his network works, etc. He is truly just a user. I have every SB player except the Radio, and it seems to have some problems, but all the other players are more rock solid over the years than any computer I've ever owned. I admit that people have real issues, but this idea that the TOUCH is junk is too over the top to be taken seriously. -- garym garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81784 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezebox Touch Question for Audiophiles
adamdea;576814 Wrote: Good idea. Mind you, an xpsu tweak is all I need. Just when I thought my audiophilia nervosa was easing. If you so much as think about veils lifting... I don't know about veils lifting... but it does sound good. Must do an AudioDiff test @ the weekend. Can't trust the olde ears/brain. An A/B shows a definite difference at the top end of vocals and cymbals - seems to take away a slight tizziness. Of course it might just be rolling-off the top-end. It does sound very smooth now. I've plenty of resistors and caps if you want some... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78938 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] I give up! SB Touch External HD Nightmare
regalma1;576963 Wrote: Here is a good question does anyone make a small (12), generic and very quiet laptop that runs Windows? 12 screen? There are a few netbooks available with 12.1 screens, but most will have 10.1 screens. You'll want a netbook with the latest generation of Atom N450 processor. I have an Acer 10.1 netbook that is absolutely quiet. I'm not sure it even has a fan. You might also consider 11.6 screens. Here's an ASUS netbook with a 12.1 screen: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220760 The only thing I'd be concerned about is the ION video. The added chip may push the system into requiring a fan. One nice thing about the netbooks with 11.6 and 12.1 screens is that they don't fit the Microsoft definition of a netbook, so they usually have 2GB of RAM instead of 1GB, larger hard drives, and have Windows 7 Home Premium installed instead of Windows 7 Starter. If you opt for a 10.1 netbook you can sometimes get XP Home instead of Win 7 Starter. No bloatware. Really? You can't be bothered to spend 15 minutes removing it? I can live with a tiny SS HD just as long as I can run WiFi and a USB drive. I have a 7 netbook, but that is too small for my old eyes and even it has a fan. You're not going to find too many netbooks available with an SSD (maybe those you can custom order, such as from Dell), but you can easily put an SSD in one if you think the 2.5 drive makes too much noise. -- JJZolx JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81784 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Most Reliable USB Bus powered Hard drive
Well, fingers crossed the Toshiba drive mentioned earlier by Jean and Iphone is working perfectly. I have 9300 Flac files with embedded artwork on the Toshiba HDDR320E04EL 320GB drive. It took 45 minutes to scan (using beta firmware 7.6 R9113) Only problem now is the beta tinysc firmware 7.6 R9113 wont let you play music from local usb if you dont plug a network cable in. LOL. i hope it isnt permenent change otherwise it kinda defeats the point of having a local USB port!! Bug logged here http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16552 -- spamtom spamtom's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40472 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81987 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Most Reliable USB Bus powered Hard drive
I`ve been using a Seagate Expansion for the last months - no problems at all. Had a (old) wd passport earlier with lots of trouble. I guess newer ones works better, but for me seagate is thumbs up. -- Adoto Adoto's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37794 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81987 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] I give up! SB Touch External HD Nightmare
garym;576965 Wrote: ...I admit that people have real issues, but this idea that the TOUCH is junk is too over the top to be taken seriously. +1 IT IS NOT JUNK. With SBS, it is a superb quality NMP that performs beautifully. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81784 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Wireless vs Ethernet. Any sound quality differences?
Steve W;576914 Wrote: My SB Touch feeds a DAC by digital coaxial and then onto my amp. I'm keen to get the best sound quality possible. Should I expect there to be any difference in sound quality between the wireless connection and a physical ethernet connection? I don't really like the idea of wireless connection for HD music files (up to 24bit, 96kHz) but I am having trouble with occasional drop outs on the ethernet connection (looses sight of the ports momentarily) whilst the wireless shows no such issue. Can I go wireless and be confident that sound quality will not suffer? That's an odd twist to the wireless vs. wired debate. It's usually the other way around. If you have wire, I'd say use it. You should fix whatever is wrong with the connection rather than falling back to wireless. Try different patch cables, repunch the wall jacks, get a new switch or router. -- JJZolx JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82026 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Sb Touch Screen Problem
Would anyone be so kind to comment on if it is feasible that the linear regulated power supply could have caused the screen to go on me? I have checked it for continuity and everything seems fine there although I guess it would damage more than just the screen if there was a problem with the wiring? I have checked the voltage with a multimeter and it show 5.05 volts. I am unsure how to check the current, would the Touch need to be running from the power supply to measure the current draw? The power supply has been getting warm but I have got holes in the roof of the enclosure for ventilation. The IEC socket I fitted has a 3 amp fuse and a switch so I have not been leaving it on when not in use as I wasn't sure ho hot it might get when left all day. I guess several folk might say just get rid as it is not worth using one anyhow but it seems a shame now it is built. Many thanks, -- woodnut woodnut's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38846 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81925 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Wireless vs Ethernet. Any sound quality differences?
JJZolx;577028 Wrote: That's an odd twist to the wireless vs. wired debate. It's usually the other way around. If you have wire, I'd say use it. You should fix whatever is wrong with the connection rather than falling back to wireless. Try different patch cables, repunch the wall jacks, get a new switch or router. I felt cured of the audiophilia nervosa I was suffering - I'm now in the middle of a relapse... :) -- Steve W Steve W's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40470 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82026 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Sb Touch Screen Problem
woodnut;577029 Wrote: Would anyone be so kind to comment on if it is feasible that the linear regulated power supply could have caused the screen to go on me? I'd say it was pretty unlikely. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81925 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezebox Touch Question for Audiophiles
Phil Leigh;576971 Wrote: I don't know about veils lifting... but it does sound good. Must do an AudioDiff test @ the weekend. Can't trust the olde ears/brain. An A/B shows a definite difference at the top end of vocals and cymbals - seems to take away a slight tizziness. Of course it might just be rolling-off the top-end. It does sound very smooth now. I've plenty of resistors and caps if you want some... Very kind of you, thanks, but I will pass for now. I have just got my Touch back after audioupgrades fitted the second clock (and connected the first clock which they had actually not connected- the 44.1/88.2 was still coming from the stock oscillator.) I am not touching anything until that has had a little while to settle in (or my ears have had the chance to adjust to it if you prefer.) I agree with you about the ears/brain: once you get beyond really obvious upgrades I find it very difficult to tell. Frankly every time I listen to music I find it slightly different. I am however coming round to a rather startling conclusion which is that the modification of my X-DAC has had as much of a difference on MP3s as on hi rez FLAC. While my touch was away I played CDs through my Xray v3 cd player (I really did buy into the X series) and I felt quite strongly that it was not as good a transport as the touch. This is quite significant because when it came out the X ray v3 was reviewed by Hi Fi News and praised specifically as a transport. -- adamdea adamdea's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37603 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78938 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Wireless vs Ethernet. Any sound quality differences?
I think the argument about the buffer is really good. Now for sufferers of Audiophila Nervosa using wireless there are two possibilties: 1) wireless is Evil because it causes the wireless receptor to be active giving pollution in the system or: 2) wireless is Good, because now that horrible poisoned RFI from the router or server cannot reach your Squeezebix, at least not by signal wire. As always, the truth should be in listening, but that is sometimes easier said then done, and the A.N. Suffers are very tight. Me, I love 2), sounds very plausible in combination with the buffer thing and happens to be convenient to me, since my router and PC are on the other side of the house. -- Dura Dura's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=39937 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82026 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezebox Touch Question for Audiophiles
adamdea;577044 Wrote: Very kind of you, thanks, but I will pass for now. I have just got my Touch back after audioupgrades fitted the second clock (and connected the first clock which they had actually not connected- the 44.1/88.2 was still coming from the stock oscillator.) I am not touching anything until that has had a little while to settle in (or my ears have had the chance to adjust to it if you prefer.) I agree with you about the ears/brain: once you get beyond really obvious upgrades I find it very difficult to tell. Frankly every time I listen to music I find it slightly different. I am however coming round to a rather startling conclusion which is that the modification of my X-DAC has had as much of a difference on MP3s as on hi rez FLAC. While my touch was away I played CDs through my Xray v3 cd player (I really did buy into the X series) and I felt quite strongly that it was not as good a transport as the touch. This is quite significant because when it came out the X ray v3 was reviewed by Hi Fi News and praised specifically as a transport. Agree with all of that. Having owned a Linn CD12 (gulp) I feel reasonably well placed to conclude that the Touch can outperform ANY cd-spinner as a pure transport. And that's without spending thousands on machines to grind the edge of the discs, zap them with ultraviolet or any other lunatic scheme to improve the wretched discs... :-) The X-series were genuine bargains, let down by some rather mundane component choices. The Audiocom full-blown mods elevate the X-DACv3 and X-10 into a different league. The X-PSU is just icing on the cake really - maybe 1-2% of the overall sound? As for modding the Touch... Personally I think the basic stock circuit is pretty good. Not sure there is too much mileage there (especially in my setup with the TACT ASRC) - but I'd be interested to hear your opinions. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78938 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Wireless vs Ethernet. Any sound quality differences?
Dura;577046 Wrote: I think the argument about the buffer is really good. As always, the truth should be in listening, but that is sometimes easier said then done, and the A.N. Suffers are very tight. using wireless it seems to me there are two possibilties, taking into account the buffer thing: 1) wireless is Evil because it causes the wireless receptor to be active giving pollution in the system or: 2) wireless is Good, because now that horrible poisoned RFI from the router or server cannot reach your Squeezebix, at least not by signal wire. Me, I love 2), sounds very plausible and happens to be convenient to me, since my router and PC are on the other side of the house. I agree the truth is in the listening. I defy anyone to prove - or even claim! - that they can hear a difference bwteeen a properly working ethernet or Wlan connection. Curiously, if anyhting there is more of a chance of the ethernet sounding worse due to some people stupidly using cat6 SHIELDED cable! -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82026 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Displaying artwork issue
If you are running SBS on a computer (and not the internal Touch server) running a full rescan should make the artwork appear... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81950 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] I give up! SB Touch External HD Nightmare
regalma1;576963 Wrote: The Touch is a good idea badly executed - umm sounds like a typical Slim Devices product. Am I correct in inferring from 'your earlier post' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=576507#post576507) that you haven't actually used a Touch? Iffy or exotic solutions? Get real. In my 1+ year experience with Touch it is a worthy successor to the SB3. Admittedly, I've only run TinySBS with a small music library on a USB stick, and for that it did just fine. But for day-to-day use it's an excellent player connected to SBS, which is hardly iffy or exotic. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81784 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Wireless vs Ethernet. Any sound quality differences?
Steve W;576914 Wrote: I don't really like the idea of wireless connection for HD music files (up to 24bit, 96kHz) but I am having trouble with occasional drop outs on the ethernet connection (looses sight of the ports momentarily) whilst the wireless shows no such issue. I suggest you fix that problem. There is absolutely no good reason to be loosing sight of the ports. Either your router's bad, or the cable's bad, or something else with your ethernet is not right. Fix that and use the wired connection, not because it has better sound quality, but because it is more reliable. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82026 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezebox Touch Question for Audiophiles
Waldo Pepper;576817 Wrote: I have never seen a modern amp with signal transformers in their audio path. The original question was about a TVC - a Transformer Volume Control. Its a transformer with multiple taps and a switch used to select the appropriate tap. Some people like to use these as volume controls. They do exist and quite a few people buy them. My injunction was NOT to try and change anything about signal carrying transformer, I don't see how that is a bad thing. Such transformer DO exist, yes in tube amps (people still buy and build them) as inputs for balanced lines and even in DACs. John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78938 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] I give up! SB Touch External HD Nightmare
Actually the weird thing is that I was very happy with the squeezebox classic. And I do think that the Touch is better than the classic in everything the classic does, and a few other things more. The bad point is that the internal server is expected to work well, and that it usually doesn't, at least if you have a large library let's say at least 150 GB of flac files. What's weird is to be very satisfied with the Classic, having a Touch better than the Classic in every field covered by the Classic, and still having a bad feeling about the Touch, only because this internal server which doesn't even exists on the Classic. Note that I was one of those quite satisfied with the internal server for several weeks. But all in all, the internal server is not acceptable for most normal users using normally large libraries. Even is some can be fully satisfied, and even if I was one of those for quite some time. This is a pity because, as I said earlier, I think it would so easy to be able to rescan only on demand, and not having to wait for at least half an hour when you don't expect it, and want to listen to your music. -- nicolas75 nicolas75's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15823 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81784 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Wireless vs Ethernet. Any sound quality differences?
I have both a Touch and Transporter. The Transporter has a wireless connection and the Touch has a wired connection. When playing 24/96 files both devices will sometimes rebuffer at the beginning of playback but then they will play fine for very long periods. As far as i can tell there is absolutely no difference in sound quality between wired and wireless connections. So stop worrying and enjoy the music. -- ralphpnj Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels - Snatch - The Transporter - Transporter 2 (oops) - Touch 'Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/jazzfann/) ralphpnj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10827 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82026 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Wireless vs Ethernet. Any sound quality differences?
ralphpnj;577070 Wrote: I have both a Touch and Transporter. The Transporter has a wireless connection and the Touch has a wired connection. When playing 24/96 files both devices will sometimes rebuffer at the beginning of playback A design flaw (IMO it's a flaw) in the Squeezebox architecture is that the buffer is only for the current track. At the start of a new track, all the players start refilling their buffers from scratch, so the system is more vulnerable to network trouble when a new song starts. -- peterw http://www.tux.org/~peterw/ Free plugins: 'AllQuiet' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/AllQuiet.html) 'Auto Dim/AutoDisplay' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/AutoDisplay.html) 'BlankSaver' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/BlankSaver.html) 'ContextMenu' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/ContextMenu.html) 'DenonSerial' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/DenonSerial.html) 'FuzzyTime' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/FuzzyTime.html) 'KidsPlay' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/KidsPlay.html) 'KitchenTimer' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/KitchenTimer.html) 'PlayLog' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/PlayLog.html) 'PowerCenter/BottleRocket' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/PowerCenter.html) 'SaverSwitcher' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SaverSwitcher.html) 'SettingsManager' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SettingsManager.html) 'SleepFade' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SleepFade.html) 'StatusFirst' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/StatusFirst.html) 'SyncOptions' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SyncOptions.html) 'VolumeLock' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/VolumeLock.html) peterw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2107 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82026 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
