Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Gapless but glitchy - some tracks beginnings squelched.

2011-08-02 Thread Phil Leigh

Try using the analogue output. Gapless playback should be perfect. 

IF analogue works fine, the problem lies with the NAD.


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[SlimDevices: Touch] Static IPs Firewall Settings

2011-08-02 Thread d34nus

Newbie Touch.

Went thru process of factory resetting Touch and disabling DHCP on
modem in order to assign a static ip to the Touch. Using 7.5.4 for
squealbox server and assigned static ip for PC. Could connect but
server and touch could't see each other. Confirmed firewall problem and
found a post on the duet forum for W7 using 2 new firewall rules.

FYI here is the original post with explicit rules for firewall settings
as worked for me
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=618826postcount=12

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] PC World discontinued stock

2011-08-02 Thread PaulEast

I bought the last one they had in stock in my part of the world a few
weeks ago. Well, it was cheap - £199 and I guessed it was probably
last season's model. So far, it's an odd mixture of the astonishing
and irritating...

Paul


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Gapless but glitchy - some tracks beginnings squelched.

2011-08-02 Thread Ladyfingers

Phil Leigh;646148 Wrote: 
 Try using the analogue output. Gapless playback should be perfect. 
 
 IF analogue works fine, the problem lies with the NAD.

Done, and flawless. It's the NAD. Strange that it doesn't happen with
CD over S/PDIF, though. I'm going to try the TOSLink now to see if it
works better than coaxial.


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[SlimDevices: Touch] Running Touch without PC being on

2011-08-02 Thread PaulEast

I was running a Squeezebox Touch with music (FLAC files) stored first on
a USB stick and then on a USB Buffalo external drive. I upgraded to
storing the files on a (new) Western Digital My Book Live 1Tb drive and
connected it to the Squeezebox Touch by ethernet cable via my Netgear
Wireless-N Modem Router (DGNB2100). Operating system is Windows 7
(64-bit).
Unfortunately, while it seems to perform well if my PC is switched on,
the Touch does not seem to be able to access the files on the NAS
directly if
the PC is switched off. 
I note that Squeezebox installed the following on the USB memory stick:

Directory = .Squeezebox\cache
Files: squeezebox-persistent.accdb; squeezebox-persistent.db;
squeezebox.db;ArtworkCache.db

In contrast, it has installed no folders or files on the My Book NAS.

Please advise:
1) Is Squeezebox capable of running on this system without the PC being
switched on and running? (It is not possible for me to leave the PC on
overnight.)
2) If so, what do I need to do to achieve this?

Paul


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Gapless but glitchy - some tracks beginnings squelched.

2011-08-02 Thread Ladyfingers

I've tried S/PDIF coaxial and TOSLink, and I can see the NAD losing its
lock of the signal (the 44.1k appears and disappears between tracks. 

I know this is avoidable by use of a silent stream output as opposed
to a simple signal null iduring/i silence. Guess I'll have to find
a plugin.

Thanks for the help everyone.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Controlling Squeezebox Touch via DLNA

2011-08-02 Thread gbcambridge

Hi,
I really would like to use some of the spare laptops that we have here,
for controlling my digital music. However, I don't want to feed the Hi
Fi system from the sound card.. they are not that great IMHO.  My
thought is to use the laptop to direct digital sound to an external
stand-alone  DAC, not USB-based but using the the standard RCA
connectors for coax. My second thought is that I do not know how to do
this.

Does anyone have experience in this direction?

Thanks for the help

George


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Controlling Squeezebox Touch via DLNA

2011-08-02 Thread Soulkeeper

gbcambridge;646215 Wrote: 
 My thought is to use the laptop to direct digital sound to an external
 stand-alone  DAC, not USB-based but using the the standard RCA
 connectors for coax.

Then you need a sound card with a digital RCA coax output, and a
cable.

Or a Squeezebox, which will give you more versatility for music
playback, since you can hook it up to the network via Ethernet or even
wirelessly.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Running Touch without PC being on

2011-08-02 Thread Soulkeeper

1) It should be.

2) I suspect that you have SBS (Squeezebox Server) installed on your
PC. When you turn off your PC, SBS goes down, and then the Touch
doesn't have anything to tell it what to do. Try enabling the Touch's
own internal SBS after turning off your PC. It's called TinySC, and you
should be able to find it in the Touch's menus somewhere.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Running Touch without PC being on

2011-08-02 Thread aubuti

You can use the Touch's built-in server (known as TinySC or TinySBS, but
listed on the Touch only as Squeezebox Server) to play tracks from a
USB hard drive, USB thumb drive, or SD card connected directly to the
Touch. To access music on any other storage you need to run regular SBS
_somewhere_. That somewhere could be your pc or your NAS, assuming your
NAS is capable of running SBS. 

TinySC/TinySBS cannot reach out and find your files on the NAS.
Actually, strictly speaking it can if you set up NFS on the Touch and
on the NAS, but (a) that is pretty difficult, and (b) most people who
have tried it said that performance is lousy. If you know your way
around Linux a bit and want to try it, search these forums for Touch
and NFS.

If you can't or don't want to leave the pc on overnight, have you
looked into letting it go into suspend or hibernate overnight?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Display turns on by itself

2011-08-02 Thread mbg

Dutchjazzman;645660 Wrote: 
 This problem starts for me also after the last update 7.6 (a view days
 ago)for all the STB' (Box, Radio and Touch). It happens on different
 moment (and no power failure! and the TP-Link router was on for more
 than four weeks) I see the same problem also in 2007 and later (try to
 Google). Some people see that it have to do with random play and pause.
 But I do not use random play. What I see is: the play now screen from
 Spotify or the last cd or Internet radio station. It happens also in
 the middle of the night when all devices are off. Maybe the problem
 starts with reconnecting the MSBcom server after lose the Internet
 connection?

This originally only happened for me after power failures with 7.5.x,
but after upgrading to 7.6 it happens at random for no apparent
reason.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Running Touch without PC being on

2011-08-02 Thread PaulEast

Thanks Soulkeeper and Aubuti for those helpful comments. 

Do you think there is anything unusual in what I am trying to do? I
would have thought there would have been hundreds (or even thousands)
of SB users trying to do exactly as I am.
I quoted the make and model of the NAS because I was beginning to fear
that all NASs are not equal but I rather hoped that a big company
like Western Digital wouldn't have just launched a new NAS product
without it being capable in this area.

Can anyone tell me whether installing Squeezebox Server on a My Book
Live NAS is a viable option?

Thanks for the suggestion of hibernating the PC. I will try it again
but the problem last time was that in this spell of warmer weather, the
fan wanted to keep running.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Running Touch without PC being on

2011-08-02 Thread aubuti

PaulEast;646276 Wrote: 
 Do you think there is anything unusual in what I am trying to do? I
 would have thought there would have been hundreds (or even thousands)
 of SB users trying to do exactly as I am.
 
 I quoted the make and model of the NAS because I was beginning to fear
 that all NASs are not equal but I rather hoped that a big company
 like Western Digital wouldn't have just launched a new NAS product
 without it being capable in this area.
 
 Can anyone tell me whether installing Squeezebox Server on a My Book
 Live NAS is a viable option?
 
 Thanks for the suggestion of hibernating the PC. I will try it again
 but the problem last time was that in this spell of warmer weather, the
 fan wanted
What you're trying to do isn't unheard of but it is a little unusual,
and more important, it is outside the scope of the Touch. As noted, you
basically have three options: (1) use TinySBS with a USB drive, (2) run
SBS on a pc, accessing a music library on the pc and/or NAS, or (3) run
SBS on the NAS.

All NASs are definitely not created equal, but in fairness to WD, NAS
stands for Network Attached _Storage_. Most consumer-grade NAS devices
like that are meant to run file server software, and not music server
software. And generally they do a fine job of acting as a file server.
I'm not sure about your exact model, but see this thread for some info
about installing SBS on a WD My Book Live:
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84735 . It's not as
straightforward as installing SBS on a regular pc.

It sounds like you're trying to suspend the pc, not hibernate it.
Either are viable options, but a big difference is that when
hibernating everything in RAM is written to disk, and then the pc is
powered off completely, so there can be no fan whirring if it is
hibernated. The downside of hibernate is that it takes a little longer
to come out of hibernation than it does to come out of suspend; the
downside of suspend is that the continues to draw some minimal power to
hold everything in RAM, and that might make the fan come on.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Standalone Touch displays tags I didn't put there

2011-08-02 Thread Dave1972

No, like I already said in the opening post: there is nothing in the
album artist field.  I tag all my files personally (using mp3 tag). 
That's why I can only conclude that the Touch is grabbing extra tags
online.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Standalone Touch displays tags I didn't put there

2011-08-02 Thread Phil Leigh

Dave1972;646303 Wrote: 
 No, like I already said in the opening post: there is nothing in the
 album artist field.  I tag all my files personally (using mp3 tag). 
 That's why I can only conclude that the Touch is grabbing extra tags
 online.
I'm not sure how many times I can say this: SBS does NOT grab tags from
anywhere, it ONLY reads your files. Whatever you are seeing IS in your
files.
You need to load up ALL of your files into MP3Tag at once and then look
at what's in the tags - remember that you may be seeing in one file the
result of an albumartist/artistsort tag in another file by the same
artist...

Unless you load everything at once and then sort by various columns you
won't easily see this.

The other thing to do is to drill down into the web UI in SBS until you
can view tags - that will show you EXACTLY what is present in each
file.


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[SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezebox touch no longer displays now playing user interface with 7.6.0 update

2011-08-02 Thread danfzx9r

I have been using my touch in stand alone mode with an external hard
drive very successfully for over 6 months now but since the 7.6.0
update when I play music I no longer get the user interface. By that I
mean I no longer can access or find the screen that gives you the
ability to pause, play, skip tracks and even adjust the volume and the
current playlist displays as Nothing.  Any idea how to fix this??? or
do I have to wait for the next update or downgrade the software because
this is another bug in this release? Any help would be greatly
appreciated.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezebox touch no longer displays now playing user interface with 7.6.0 update

2011-08-02 Thread toby10

Touch the screen.  Your buttons will magically reappear.   ;)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezebox touch no longer displays now playing user interface with 7.6.0 update

2011-08-02 Thread danfzx9r

Thanks but that's not it. I already checked it. When music is playing 
you try to access the current playlist the word Nothing shows up on
the display even though I have sound and also there are no tracks
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[SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezebox Server no good on new Mac Mini

2011-08-02 Thread Sonnenwender

I have a Squeezebox Touch and discarded my RedayNas Duo because it was
too slow to allow Squeezebox Server to convert 192/24 files to 96/24
before sending them to the SBT via wireless. Now I bought the new
MacMini as a Music server for the SBT. Unfortunately it doesn't work as
smoothly as with the NAS.

I don't know if the Squeeze Software for the Mac is bad or if it just
doesn't work well with OS x Lion. My SBT every now and then falls dead
and when I try to awaken it it doesn't find the music that I select on
the touch screen (iPeng with the iPad just has completely quit working
with the Mac). When I select the album the playlist says nothing.
Occasionally I succeed in connecting the server on the Mac with the SBT
by using the remote function. But at times it won't even play albums but
only individual songs.

I had decided for streaming with the SBT to my stereo and not directly
with the Mac because I don't like a monitor in my living room and
because the SBT is much easier to use, especially with HD files. Now
this usability aspect has completely changed to the worse. Any help
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Standalone Touch displays tags I didn't put there

2011-08-02 Thread Dave1972

@ Phil:  Easy tiger! ;)  I edited my previous comment within a minute or
two after reconsideration, but it looks like you got in with your snappy
reply as I was editing.

Anyway, I shall load ALL my files into mp3tag at once and have a look,
and remove any obsolete albumartist tags.  I had no idea that the Touch
(or any media player) would apply tags to one file from another file. 
Thanks for your helpful advice - I'm clearly a noob as far as this is
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Standalone Touch displays tags I didn't put there

2011-08-02 Thread Phil Leigh

Dave1972;646341 Wrote: 
 @ Phil:  Easy tiger! ;)  I edited my previous comment within a minute or
 two after reconsideration, but it looks like you got in with your snappy
 reply as I was editing.
 
 Anyway, I shall load ALL my files into mp3tag at once and have a look,
 and remove any obsolete albumartist tags.  I had no idea that the Touch
 (or any media player) would apply tags to one file from another file. 
 Thanks for your helpful advice - I'm clearly a noob as far as this is
 concerned but am happy to be learning. Thanks :)

It's not so much that it literally applies them to other files...
it's building a database from the tags it finds in your files and
sometimes that means it has to make some awkward choices. Say for
example you have 2 tracks by Bob Dylan (according to the ARTIST tags) -
on the same album or different albums - but on one it finds an
ARTISTSORT tag of Dylan, Bob and on another it finds one of Bob
Dylan... it has to choose one to use, because it knows there is only 1
artist called Bob Dylan... and he can't be sorted under BOTH B  D.


The tiger is now off for a bowl of milk ;-)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezebox touch no longer displays now playing user interface with 7.6.0 update

2011-08-02 Thread rolski

Hmm, interesting, I've just uploaded  run (delete  rescan)
7.6.1_r32942 and my now playing album artwork has disappeared on my
Touch
Will investigate more  come back if I find anything.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Standalone Touch displays tags I didn't put there

2011-08-02 Thread paulster

This could also very easily be a case of having two different tag types
in your files.

MP3tag, for instance, can read ID3V1 tags, let you modify them and
write them back as ID3V2, leaving the original ones untouched.

In this case you can get two different ARTIST tags in one file, but
you'll only see one displayed in most tagging software.  Squeezebox
will read them both though.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Experiences TinySC on 7.6

2011-08-02 Thread magnumpat

Same problems here, after adding new files on my usb drive, suddenly the
tinySC was unable to add them and crashes every time i try to reload the
server. 7.6 was doing well until the number of files changed on the
drive...


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezebox Server no good on new Mac Mini

2011-08-02 Thread SteveCresswell

Hi!
I'm afraid it's not just the Mac Mini, neither is is just Lion.

On my iMac G5, the server crashes instantly if any attempt is made to
communicate with it via the squeezebox player. Initially I thought that
the SBT simply could not see the server over the network.
But after setting up a Macbook Pro to share the iMac screen so that I
could watch the preference pane remotely, the problem immediately
became apparent.

Touch anything that involved asking the server to do anything such as
display a list of tracks in an album and the server on the iMac could
be observed to immediately stop via the screen share; the preference
pane displaying The Server is Stopped
The crash is so sudden that the logs display nothing that would give a
a clue as to the cause

This can be reproduced anytime I want. Any command sent via the SB's
own ethernet or wireless interface will stop the server dead without
fail, giving a there is a problem connecting to the server message.

The server used to crash on initial launch after installation. The
latest 7.6.1 nightly seems to have addressed this, but the remote
communication server crash problem still persists.

I posted a detailed description the problem on the official Logitech
Forum yesterday.
Thus far there has been no response. 

http://forums.logitech.com/t5/MySqueezebox-com-Squeezebox/Squeezebox-Server-7-6-0-does-not-work-on-iMac-G5/td-p/658692

I'd love to be proved wrong and hear from a Mac user who has a working
7.6 setup, but as far as I'm concerned, 7.6 simply does not work on
OSX, and judging by the lack of interest shown on the official forum,
that is not likely to change in the near term.

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[SlimDevices: Touch] Playlists 'Not portable' like Music Library ?

2011-08-02 Thread Cut-Throat

I moved my Music Library to another hard drive and discovered that my
Playlists no longer work. I looked at the file and it appeared that the
Drive Letter is 'hardcoded' into the playlist.

Is there a way to automatically update the playlist or do you just have
to re-create them if you move your music library to another hard drive?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Playlists 'Not portable' like Music Library ?

2011-08-02 Thread Mnyb

Cut-Throat;646407 Wrote: 
 I moved my Music Library to another hard drive and discovered that my
 Playlists no longer work. I looked at the file and it appeared that the
 Drive Letter is 'hardcoded' into the playlist.
 
 Is there a way to automatically update the playlist or do you just have
 to re-create them if you move your music library to another hard drive?

Open the pl in wordpad and do search and replace it takes a couple of
seconds per pl.

backup before messing with them.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Playlists 'Not portable' like Music Library ?

2011-08-02 Thread Cut-Throat

Mnyb;646411 Wrote: 
 Open the pl in wordpad and do search and replace it takes a couple of
 seconds per pl.
 
 backup before messing with them.

Yup, I did that, but I was wondering if there was a more 'automatic'
way to do this.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Playlists 'Not portable' like Music Library ?

2011-08-02 Thread Mnyb

well for more complicated problems i use listfix .

http://listfix.sourceforge.net/

I separated half of my music to a different drive and moved it one
subfolder below and listfix repaired that :)

But for a simple fix search and replace is faster.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Playlists 'Not portable' like Music Library ?

2011-08-02 Thread JJZolx

It might be possible to use relative paths in playlists. I've never
tried it with Squeezebox Server, but it works with some software.

So, if you have a structure like

D:\Music
D:\Playlists

your playlists might contain paths that look like

..\Music\etc.

instead of

D:\Music\etc.

If you move both directories to the E: drive, it should still work. But
this could easily be more trouble than the situation it attempts to fix.
You couldn't, for instance, move the playlist folder to the F: drive and
have it still work.

So... use search and replace.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezebox Server no good on new Mac Mini

2011-08-02 Thread MichaelJ

SteveCresswell;646402 Wrote: 
 Hi!
 I'm afraid it's not just the Mac Mini, neither is is just Lion.
 
 
 I'd love to be proved wrong and hear from a Mac user who has a working
 7.6 setup, but as far as I'm concerned, 7.6 simply does not work on
 OSX, and judging by the lack of interest shown on the official forum,
 that is not likely to change in the near term.
 
 Steve
Im running an iMac intel i3 with Lion, iTunes 10.4 and SBS 7.6.1.
After some initial hassles with 7.6
I downloaded  7.6.1-r32935 and have been problem free.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Standalone Touch displays tags I didn't put there

2011-08-02 Thread garym

paulster;646366 Wrote: 
 This could also very easily be a case of having two different tag types
 in your files.
 
 MP3tag, for instance, can read ID3V1 tags, let you modify them and
 write them back as ID3V2, leaving the original ones untouched.
 
 In this case you can get two different ARTIST tags in one file, but
 you'll only see one displayed in most tagging software.  Squeezebox
 will read them both though.

if you haven't yet done so, create a custom column in mp3tag, with this
as the value:

%_tag_read%[ (%_tag%)]

This will show you the tag read as well as any other tags in the file I
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Playlists 'Not portable' like Music Library ?

2011-08-02 Thread aubuti

Cut-Throat;646413 Wrote: 
 Yup, I did that, but I was wondering if there was a more 'automatic' way
 to do this.
If you're familiar with 'sed' (stream editor) then you could process
all of your playlists with a single command line. sed is a standard
utility on *nix and ports are available for Windows and OSX. But if
you're not familiar with it then batch search and replace is as
automatic as it gets for fixing a situation in which you've moved the
track to a completely different place from where the playlist says it
is.


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