Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Trouble getting 24/96 output
Phil Leigh;654297 Wrote: > No. > can you try other rates? - 24/44, 24/48, 24/88.2? (use dBPoweramp or > similar to convert files). Yes - it works for 24/44 and 24/48, but not 24/88. Phil Leigh;654297 Wrote: > I presume you can connect the Touch to a DAC and it works fine @ 24/96? No, I don't have any other DAC (apart from the DAC in the DEQX). I'm starting to thing the problem is with the DEQX though... -- Mike Anderson 'FREE RADICAL RADIO!' (http://nvo.com/cd) Hours of free radical MP3s. Mike Anderson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1705 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90040 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Trouble getting 24/96 output
Mike Anderson;654295 Wrote: > Do I have to do something special with the Touch to get it to output a > 24/96 digital signal? No. can you try other rates? - 24/44, 24/48, 24/88.2? (use dBPoweramp or similar to convert files). I presume you can connect the Touch to a DAC and it works fine @ 24/96? -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker & Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90040 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Trouble getting 24/96 output
I'm having trouble playing 24 bit/96 khz FLAC files, but I'm not sure if the problem is my Touch or something downstream. I'm taking the digital coax signal out of the Touch, going into the digital coax input of a DEQX unit (http://www.deqx.com/). It works fine for 16 bit/44 khz FLAC files. When I try to play a 24 bit/96 khz FLAC file, the Touch seems to be playing the file (e.g. the VU meters move), but the DEQX unit does not register any input signal. I'm not sure if the problem is on the DEQX end, or if the Touch is simply not outputting any signal. Is there some way to tell? Do I have to do something special with the Touch to get it to output a 24/96 digital signal? -- Mike Anderson 'FREE RADICAL RADIO!' (http://nvo.com/cd) Hours of free radical MP3s. Mike Anderson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1705 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90040 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] One cause of rebuffering on the Touch
pippin;654256 Wrote: > there is one generally valid recommendation with computer systems these > days: > > If you've got problems, don't try to tweak your system. > > In most cases, defaults are the best solution and messing around will > not improve anything but make it worse. > > Yours is a typical case: I know it's a religious discussion about > whether it will improve your sq to decode flac on the pc but knowing > the touch a bit i will never believe it does until i hear it which i > don't. > And fiddling with network settings on the pc attached to a distributed > network (as opposed to just a straight cable into the touch) will not > alter your sq, no matter what people tell you. It just won't. Under no > circumstances. Never. Period. > > So what you did was two modifications to improve sound quality that > brought you a lot of trouble with zero (or little) benefit. -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad 64gB wifi +3g with iPengHD & SqueezePad Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87973 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] One cause of rebuffering on the Touch
Try to improve WiFi reception by moving the Router/Wifi AP or adding a high gain antenna to it. That said, this won't fix MySB outages, though. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote and *New: iPeng for iPad*, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87973 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] NIL by ear
Same here with the nil name and playback of streamed music is very tempremental with some songs refusing to play while others are fine. Arg. -- Honeyquince Honeyquince's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=47650 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89977 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] One cause of rebuffering on the Touch
Hi there, This is a great thread and gives me hope that my buffering problems may some day be resolved. on the other hand I'm thrown into a blind panic as I can only understand about ten percent of what is being said and I don't get the impression that logitech are hurrying out a user friendly fix for this. So maybe someone can give me some pointers. so far I only use my touch to stream music using the Spotify app via my wireless network (I'm saving for something like a vortex box when I will rip my cd collection). So my buffering problem is independant of my pc / network card setting. Recognising that many people say that wi-fi is less than optimal for a number of reasons I have tried to set up a wired network with wall plugs but have run into the well documented problems of failing to find an address. so I feel that I'm on a perpetual merry-go-round. Can anyone give me a pointer as to what could be my next step? Many thanks - I realy want to like my touch but at the moment it just makes me want to screa! Robert -- Honeyquince Honeyquince's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=47650 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87973 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] One cause of rebuffering on the Touch
There is one generally valid recommendation with computer systems these days: If you've got problems, DON'T TRY TO TWEAK YOUR SYSTEM. In most cases, defaults are the best solution and messing around will not improve anything but make it worse. Yours is a typical case: I know it's a religious discussion about whether it will improve your SQ to decode FLAC on the PC but knowing the Touch a bit I will never believe it does until I hear it which I don't. And fiddling with network settings on the PC attached to a distributed network (as opposed to just a straight cable into the Touch) WILL NOT alter your SQ, no matter what people tell you. It just won't. Under no circumstances. Never. Period. So what you did was two modifications to improve sound quality that brought you a lot of trouble with zero (or little) benefit. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote and *New: iPeng for iPad*, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87973 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] One cause of rebuffering on the Touch
PasTim;654215 Wrote: > Why thank you. One tries... > > Generally these SB threads seem very helpful, which encourages people > like me to have a go. When I get it wrong (especially on anything to > do with audiophilia) I usually get corrected pretty quickly, and mostly > quite politely, so I'm not too shy of trying again! Agree. And I'm particularly fond of posters who try to systematically diagnose their problems and test hypotheses about potential sources of the problems. I've learned a tremendous amount hanging out around here -- garym System 1: Vortexbox Appliance (1.5) > SbS 7.5.4 > Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) System 2: Win7(64) laptop > SbS 7.6.1 > Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio and laptop) Retired: SB3, Duet Receiver Controlled at both locations with: iPhone (iPeng), iPad (iPeng & SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.6 on Win7(64) laptop Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Additional Tagging - mp3tag garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87973 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] One cause of rebuffering on the Touch
garym;654157 Wrote: > Very useful post. I'm sure this will come in handy for future visitors > to the forum! Why thank you. One tries... Generally these SB threads seem very helpful, which encourages people like me to have a go. When I get it wrong (especially on anything to do with audiophilia) I usually get corrected pretty quickly, and mostly quite politely, so I'm not too shy of trying again! -- PasTim Server on Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit, 2 CPU, 2GHz, 4GB, FLAC files. Touch on Ethernet (in another room). Analogue out over 'a bit of wire' to ageing Quad Hi-Fi. An old (wireless) laptop controls the server using Chrome. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87973 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Auto update the tags
thanks for your answer, that function do the job perfectly! -- Squeezsat Squeezsat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49415 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90009 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] One cause of rebuffering on the Touch
PasTim;633464 Wrote: > This is a tale of someone who was, and still is, extremely happy with > their Logitech Touch but who had one nagging problem for which there > was a work around, but for which the cause was, nonetheless, not > understood. ... Very useful post. I'm sure this will come in handy for future visitors to the forum! -- garym System 1: Vortexbox Appliance (1.5) > SbS 7.5.4 > Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) System 2: Win7(64) laptop > SbS 7.6.1 > Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio and laptop) Retired: SB3, Duet Receiver Controlled at both locations with: iPhone (iPeng), iPad (iPeng & SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.6 on Win7(64) laptop Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Additional Tagging - mp3tag garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87973 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] One cause of rebuffering on the Touch
I had not realized the benefits of upgrading to 7. I have been stubbornly resisting the change, I did not fully understand that my performance could be drastically improved. I have lots of issues with re-buffering of my audio streams, which is driving me batty. Maybe I will just have to go ahead and upgrade. -- Hadden Hadden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49434 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87973 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Ipeng speed
pippin;654109 Wrote: > > With "the command is recognized but nothing happens", do you mean the > row turns blue but no new menu page appears? . Yep, that's exactly what I mean. I will try as you suggested and see how I get on. Cheers Will -- magicj1 magicj1's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49221 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89976 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] NIL by ear
Blast and Damnation!! It's done it again today after playing for 4 hours via msb.com. This time a variation - the screen went blank and came back proudly claiming to be nil. -- castalla castalla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15624 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89977 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Ipeng speed
magicj1;654031 Wrote: > I mean when selecting a song/album from the Ipod's key command in > portrait, the command is recognised but nothing happens, switch to > landscape and it works. > > The command responce is more consistant in landscape. Sorry, "key" for me means a key on the keyboard, hence the confusion. I didn't understand the connection to "command". With "the command is recognized but nothing happens", do you mean the row turns blue but no new menu page appears? In this case you should probably tap the row shorter but in this respect iPeng really should behave just like the iPod App. The one thing where the iPod App is probably faster is scrolling. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote and *New: iPeng for iPad*, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89976 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Ipeng speed
magicj1;654103 Wrote: > > I got my Squeezebox touch from a guy who was selling it due to the fact > he found it not as responsive as he liked, he is now using Sono's which > he finds so much more responsive the the SB/Ipeng, why is this? So you are trying to play e.g. an album and you tap a track and then it often does not do anything? I mean: you can't really miss the track, even with the fattest fingers, I mean... it's like 1/4" high and 2" wide in portrait, that should be big enough so I don't really think it's the problem. When you hit the track, usually iPeng should switch immediately to the NowPlaying screen, actual playback could be a bit later depending on how long the server needs to start the streaming but for me it's never more than 1/2 s. You talk about opening a context menu, by "hold"ing a track for 1/2 s (actually it's a bit less on iOS 4). That's not a simple action but a secondary gesture. It's not meant to act immediately because then you could never use the default action, couldn't you. Indeed, if you move your finger during this time, the gesture is not being recognized, it's how iOS differentiates between scrolling and holding gestures. Also, under iOS4 this is an operating system gesture. and I don't really see why it should work differently in landscape mode and have never actually experienced that. When the gesture is recognized, a new menu should open. Now the CONTENT of this menu can take a bit longer depending on your setup since for the Song Info menu the server compiles information from various sources but usually it's no longer than 1s for me. And my server is slower than yours. Using Song Info from the current playlist is a bit different, that can be a little bit more sensitive. The App does indeed behave a bit more sluggish in the first seconds after start because it still loads a lot of information from the server then. The one disclaimer is that I never tried iOS 4 on a 2st/second generation iOS device because the only one I still have of these is the one I use for iOS3 compatibility testing. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote and *New: iPeng for iPad*, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89976 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Ipeng speed
pippin;654050 Wrote: > Sorry, I still don't understand. What do you mean by "key command"? I'm > not aware that there is anything where response should depend on > orientation, especially things like menus that are being retrieved from > the server. I am using the ipeng App, which I brought from Itunes for £6.+ Key command, I mean when I touch the Ipod's screen to select an input/option/song on the touch screen. The best way I can describe this is when I view in portrait mode it's like using an old 'button' type remote which button is slightly faulty. Like a faulty button I have to position my finger over the song/album until it recognises my input, where as in landscape mode this is not as much of a problem. May be my 'sausage' fingers are just to large for the ipod touch screen? As well as Itunes, which I now understand why Itunes is more responsive. I had the mediamonkey app for my Ipod, and this was more responsive than Ipeng. I understand why Itunes is more responsive now. I got my Squeezebox touch from a guy who was selling it due to the fact he found it not as responsive as he liked, he is now using Sono's which he finds so much more responsive the the SB/Ipeng, why is this? -- magicj1 magicj1's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49221 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89976 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Wonder if this would work with Touch...
Yet to be released 2 TB thumb drive http://www.tomshardware.com/news/ITRI-Display-Taiwan-USB-3.0-2TB-Thin-Card,13320.html -- SlimChances SlimChances's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=165 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90027 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 7.6.1 issue with tags.
Notice that several improvements have been made in scanning and artwork handling that should also lead to improved performance. However I do not know how big an improvement it provides for a Touch. On my x86 server a fullscan became 3-3,5 times faster, but that includes the introduction of SQLite in SBS... Touch have SQLite all along. -- slate Main: Receiver (Audiocom) -> Beresford Caiman+ (Gatorized) -> Carver A-500x -> B&W 704 Office: Receiver -> Luxman L-210 -> Stax SR84 Pro/Superlux HD668B Server: Zotac IONITX-A, 4 GB, 1 TB WD EADS, Win7 w. 7.6 (SQLite w. High Mem) Tied together by D-Link DIR-655 + DGS-1008D slate's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30502 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90026 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] 7.6.1 issue with tags.
I have a SBT with VBA. I have set up my database so that all compilations are listed as "Various Artists". I have close to 100 of these ripped in FLAC(mostly by the VBA some by EAC) and edited with MP3Tag, when editing was needed to conform with my database. Prior to my 7.6.1 upgade all of these titles showed up under "Various Artists", after the upgrade about 1/3 of them show up under "Various Artists". If I sort by albums they are all there, but not associated with any Artist. Artwork is all there also. I looked at a few of the no shows with MP3Tag and the Artist is listed as Various Artist, so the Artist tag looks fine. I Know 7.6.1 is more tag sensitive than previous versions but I can't determine what I need to fix. I have done many "clear and rescans", it doesn't fix the problem. I have noticed that before the upgrade a "clear and rescan" took about 20 min. After the upgade it is more like 5 min. I was wondering if the SBT isn't doing a full "Clear and rescan"??? Any input to my dilema would be greatly appeciated. Thanks!!! -- tmauceri tmauceri's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41450 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90026 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Ipeng speed
garym;654068 Wrote: > Is the OP using the iPeng app or is he using the old iPeng > "interface"?? I thought about that, too, but he did send me diagnostics mails from within the App. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote and *New: iPeng for iPad*, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89976 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Ipeng speed
Is the OP using the iPeng app or is he using the old iPeng "interface"?? -- garym System 1: Vortexbox Appliance (1.5) > SbS 7.5.4 > Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) System 2: Win7(64) laptop > SbS 7.6.1 > Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio and laptop) Retired: SB3, Duet Receiver Controlled at both locations with: iPhone (iPeng), iPad (iPeng & SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.6 on Win7(64) laptop Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Additional Tagging - mp3tag garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89976 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Ipeng speed
Sorry, I still don't understand. What do you mean by "key command"? I'm not aware that there is anything where response should depend on orientation, especially things like menus that are being retrieved from the server. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote and *New: iPeng for iPad*, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89976 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
