Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Can't install update 7.8.0 r16754
Tried to reboot the Touch before the update? I've seen failures to update before. But that was mostly on Radios, which only have 1/4 of the memory of the Touch... ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Interface says no player
I'm totally lost as to what is causing this. The Squeezebox Touch is plugged into the same switch as the PC with the library on. LMS is running without errors. Can you select "My Music" on the Touch? ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezebox Touch not connecting to LMS
Thanks. Please see my edited response above. I tried to do this but it didn't work until I rebooted my MacBook. But did you add the new version to the firewall after the re-install? FYI the latest version I have is dated June 2022, is this the correct latest version? Yes, that's the latest for the helper binary. ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezebox Touch not connecting to LMS
I tried deleting the Spotty entry in the firewall settings but can't see where the latest Spotty executable is located. I tried restarting LMS but am having the same issue. Can you please help? Thanks You can find the path in the Spotty settings, or its folder on Settings/Information. ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezebox Touch not connecting to LMS
Do you mean I need to remove the existing Spotty entry in the firewall settings and reinstall it? Can you please clarify. You can select a binary for which you want to define a rule (there's the little "+" button at the bottom). Use it to pick the latest spotty executable. ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezebox Touch not connecting to LMS
the Spotify app on Macbook or iPhpne. While LMS is running I get requests popping up every minute or so to allow Spotty to receive incoming connections. I have checked my Firewall settings and Spotty is enabled. iPeng can access Spotify on SBT whilst this is happening. The You might need to add the latest version of the binary in the firewall settings. I think macOS does not take into account when a file is updated. ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezebox Touch not connecting to LMS
Can you please let me know what you mean by uninstall, what should I uninstall? I'm sorry for being vague... uninstall Spotty, as it was causing additional issues. ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezebox Touch not connecting to LMS
the direction of the iPeng app being the issue. When I switch from MySqueezeBox to MacBook Pro as the music source in iPeng, MSB no longer recognises the SBT but LMS does. I then get persistent requests to allow Spotty to accept incoming connections which don't stop until I stop LMS. I don't know what else to check Can you uninstall for a moment? Would LMS then work as expected? And did you tell macOS to allow Spotty to be accessed? Do you have macOS' firewall up? ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezebox Touch not connecting to LMS
Apologies of this has been covered elsewhere but my Squeezebox Touch is connected to MSB but will not connect to LMS. I have restarted both but still not connecting. LMS version is 8.3.1. Where is LMS running? Same network? Docker? ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SBT as a server
i'm using a SBT firmware 7.5.0 as a server for my logitech transporter (connected to ethernet) how i can tell the SBT (ssh) to stop looking for firmware 7.7.3? how can i disable unnecessary plugins on the touch tinysc (SBS)? Basically: you can't. And that lack of customizability is one of the reasons why I would recommend not to use the Touch's built-in LMS. ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Headphone socket, advice needed
And yesterday I came across my old headphones and thought, why not use the Touch as headphone amp? But there is no sound coming out of it at all. (Checked the headphones, of course) Does anyone know if I have to configure the headphone socket as output beforehand? You can only use your Touch's headphone socket if you're using the Touch as a player, but not if it's a controller only. ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Upgrade LMS
Would a Raspberry Pi3 B+ suit the OP's application ? I believe it has 1GB ram, rather than the 2GB/4GB/8GB of the Pi4. But perhaps easier on the purse, and if it works well enough... I'm still using a 3B+ every day in the office. It's plenty powerful for my 20k tracks and some online music integration. ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Output Power Issue
Are you saying that if you install 8.2 on a naked system, you have a volume problem. But if you install some older version first, then update to 8.2, you're good? Would you mind running this test once again? - install 8.2 on your machine with all traces removed first. Copy the prefs folder aside. - install 7.9 then update to 8.2. Copy the prefs folder again. Then please send me a copy of these two folders. I'd like to understand whether some initialization is different between the two. ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Upgrade LMS
I have ST with software 7.7.3 and Kernel digital output. I want to listen Radio Paradise, yes I now, I read all topic of them, but I don't understand how first install software 7.9 to ST? Are you using the "Tiny LMS" built in to the Squeezebox Touch? You can't install any plugins on the Touch directly. You'd have to install LMS on a computer or Raspberry Pi or something first. ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Spotty Connecting Issue
I have sent you the full server log, I also updated to 8.1.1 with no success, let me know what I should try next I see a lot of successful requests to Spotify, and no "invalid data" response. Am I looking at the wrong file? Can you run your tests with logging enabled once again, then send me the file once you've received that "invalid data" message again. And please tell me when (time) this happened, and what you did. This should allow me to find the corresponding response in the log file. ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Spotty Connecting Issue
[21-06-03 16:45:32.8023] Plugins::Spotty::API::__ANON__ (1410) Invalid data You seem to have quite a few networking related issues. Also: 7.9.0 is outdated. It lacks support for more recent HTTPS encryption methods on Windows. Please update to the latest 8.1 and try again. If that doesn't help, then please enable logging for plugin.spotty (Settings/Advanced/Logging). Try to play again, then send me your full server.log.zip to https://www.dropbox.com/request/T3RctyzGgNg0oFDubq6a ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Spotty Connecting Issue
I have spotty installed and am using LMS 7.9.0. When playing a song through spotify it connects and shows the track playing, the trouble is I don't get an audio source. But you've been able to authenticate and can browse content? Do you have a Premium subscription? Is there anything about Spotty in the server.log file (see Settings/Information)? ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Spotify working on Squeezebox touch?
Hello, I just got a Squeezebox touch left by one sister for years, not very familiar with it. It's still working and sounds great. But I Just want to see whether I can use Spotify with it? Install the Spotty plugin. ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Auto complete search? Search suggestions when typing?
Material skin does exactly what you want. Live search has been available in the web UI for a while now. But what the OP is wondering about is the player UI. And I'm not sure it could easily be done. "Fuzzy search" is something I've been wanting to enable for a long time. But no results so far. ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Sorry if dumb question
Before I became a homeworker due to the pandemic, I built a small server for my office with a Raspberry Pi (piCorePlayer, LMS) and a hard drive (a copy of my music files), which might be a cost effective and better performing alternative to using the tinyLMS in the Touch. If you want to play more than a few dozen albums, eg. online radio, podcasts, services, you're definitely better off using a Pi setup. "TinyLMS" (as we used to call it) on Touch doesn't have SSL support (needed for many online radio stations, podcasts, music services) or web UI, no plugins, and always too little memory. It's super slow compared to a Pi. ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Problems RadioParadise LMS 7.76 Synology
“Radio Paradsie lossless streaming requires the Perl module IO::Socket::SSL. Please use your operating system's package manager to install it.” Some pepople reported this message when running Spotty. In my Synology 918+ Spotty 4.4.7 works ok. What is happening? Ok, the message indeed is a bit confusing. In addition to the SSL libraries you'd also need LMS 7.9 for the lossless stream. I'm going to change that message. Thanks for the heads up! ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Logitech Media Server on laptop can't find player
on the Touch. The Touch tells me to update to the latest version of What firmware version is it running? Check Settings/Advanced/About or similar on the Touch itself. And go to Settings/Advanced/Software Updates to see whether there's an updated firmware available. -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Need Help with TIDAL please
8.1.0/r1608700893 Please try the 8.1.1 nightly build. -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Need Help with TIDAL please
You still haven't told us what exact LMS version you were using. -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Need Help with TIDAL please
I have the right version. By reauthorize, do you mean uninstall and reinstall tidal? Remove the ickStream plugin. It's been dead for years. Then go to https://www.mysqueezebox.com/user/apps/WiMP to authenticate. -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Need Help with TIDAL please
My Touch wont play any songs on Tidal. I can see everything, but if I What LMS version? You need 8.x. Did you re-authorize TIDAL on mysqueezebox.com? -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tidal stopped streaming on SBT - Help!
I logged in to www.mysqueezebox.com, I don't see Tidal in the App Gallery. Is TIDAL officially available in your country? I might need to update the availability list. -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tidal stopped streaming on SBT - Help!
I have never used Tidal before. I have installed Tidal from the plugins screen but I don't see that in myapps on SBT, what am I missing? You have to go to www.mysqueezebox.com to install and configure TIDAL. -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] installing Spotty
Very informative! Can one of you guys point me to good Pi4? I see a The only variation is the RAM size, isn't it? 2GB are good enough to run LMS. More wouldn't hurt - except the budget. -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] "Now Playing" as a Default Screen
On the Touch itself, if I tap SETTINGS, I'm not seeing a DISPLAY option. Just SQUEEZEPLAYER NAME, SYNCHRONIZE, ADVANCED. And no DISPLAY / SCREEN option under ADVANCED. That sounds incomplete. I have many more items there. It's actually "Screen", not "Display". But then there's Sleep, Shuffle, Repeat etc. Hmm... I thought there was a way to restore default menus, but I can't find it... -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] "Now Playing" as a Default Screen
Now Playing as the top item. To get the actual Now Playing screen, I have to hit the botom left remote button. Oddly, touching Now Playing on the Touch screen doesn't take me to the screen I want, but just reduces the font size of the Home Menu! And I don't think there's a way of telling the Touch to display the Now Playing screen from the LMS interface. The Touch has two different UIs: the touch UI, and what was called the 10ft UI. The latter is being used when you control the device using the IR remote control. It has larger fonts etc. If you use that, then go and touch the screen, the first touch would trigger the UI change. Therefore you see the fonts being resized. I believe you can disable this behaviour somewhere in the Touch's Settings/Display menu. That's also where you can define the screensaver behaviour to always use the NP screen when playing etc. -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Spotty silence
Oh, one more thing: after you've added your own client ID you might need to wait for another hour until it's being used due to some caching. -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Spotty silence
any thoughts anybody? The red color to display that message at the top was chosen to catch your attention. Quite obviously it failed its purpose. What other color would have worked? :-) -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Spotty silence
Hi, I'm trying to follow the advice on this thread re client ID. I've got as far as clicking 'Create an App' but the next screen tells me to input App Name and App description. I don't know what to enter here. No > instructions have appeared. Oh, I just responded in another thread... so you're already working on this. App name and description can be whatever you want. This is for you, so you remember what the client ID is for. Can I just ask if it's possible to revert to the original Spotty menu rather than everything being added to my playlist folder? I would like to me able to search for artists and albums on Spotty but I can't do this now. Once you got your own Client ID (and let the old tokens expire - usually after an hour) everything should be back to normal. -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Spotty silence
Please read my previous respons and the instructions. I did, Michael, but found it difficult. I could not see the cookie that Did you read it? I said this was NOT about the cookie... -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Spotty silence
Please read my previous respons and the instructions. -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Spotty silence
Thank you. I have followed all of that, on two browsers, and each is only showing 'Learn More' in the Cookie section of developer tools. For clarity, I am playing from Spotify using the connect feature to connect it to my SBT. This is not about the cookie, but about the client ID. See the last setting's description on that page. -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Spotty silence
I keep having to press 'backwards' on Spotify to restart the track or I just get minutes of silence using the Spotty app. Is there a popular fix for this issue? There has been a lot of noise around Spotty recently, caused by the fact that Spotify started rate limiting us. Please go to Settings/Advanced/Spotty and see how to get your own client ID. -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch 'requesting' LMS update
Where do I find the firmware to put on a usb stick? And how do I force that upgrade. You shouldn't need to. Just install the latest 8.0.1 nightly build. Once you try to connect your Touch to it it should offer the update instead of the message you got before. -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch 'requesting' LMS update
Hmm I have to find the discussion around a similar issue with the Radio. I'm wondering whether we're actually hitting the same bug with some older Touch firmware where the version comparison would fail. Confirmed. The firmware distributed by mysb.com would have the buggy version comparison... SB Touch players which have never connected to a LMS 7.8 or later thus would fail to connect to LMS8. Ouch! I've added a change to 8.0.1 which would handle the issue the same way as with the Radio (without patching the firmware). It would allow Touch to connect to LMS8, and on first connect it would update the firmware to the fixed 7.8.0 version. If you checked Settings/Advanced/Updates on the Touch itself (while LMS was running), would you see an update to 7.8.x? It's actually "Software Updates". You could download the firmware to an SD card or USB stick to update the Touch from it. Or you wait for the next build of LMS 8.0.1, which should allow you to update and connect. -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch 'requesting' LMS update
slartibartfast wrote: What happens when you click on My Music on the Touch? Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk I get the same message about the requirement to update my LMS to a newer version. Hmm I have to find the discussion around a similar issue with the Radio. I'm wondering whether we're actually hitting the same bug with some older Touch firmware where the version comparison would fail. I think it was only fixed in 7.8.x, but the official firmware release still is 7.7.x! If you checked Settings/Advanced/Updates on the Touch itself (while LMS was running), would you see an update to 7.8.x? -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch 'requesting' LMS update
Having a fiddle with it tonight, It reported that a firmware update was available - so I let it do this and it rebooted as you would expect a couple of minutes later when the download had completed. What firmware version are you on (Settings/Advanced/About)? -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tidal stopped streaming on SBT - Help!
Yes, it needs to be running. But it doesn't need to be a big, fat computer. Raspberry Pi is the way to go :-). -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tidal stopped streaming on SBT - Help!
Thanks, I haven't been on this forum for a year or two. I'm in the US. I'll update my acct. to reflect that. You need to run the latest LMS8: http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/?ver=8.0 -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tiny LMS - adding Favorites
What about just editing the link to http, and letting dropbox redirect it? Dropbox would re-direct to https, which TinyLMS would fail to load, trying http instead, which Dropbox would re-direct... and so on. -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tiny LMS - adding Favorites
However, using TinyLMS, although there *is* a "on mysqueezebox.com" entry in the favourites menu, I see "Redirection Limit Exceeded". Most likely TinyLMS is failing the https request, trying to get http, which in turn is re-directed to https by Dropbox. -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Cannot get Touch to connect
Please share your server.log.zip https://www.dropbox.com/request/T3RctyzGgNg0oFDubq6a From the various feedback you give it seems to me you have communication problem between your LMS and the rest of the world. -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] USB keyboard to access terminal and re-enable SSH?
Is it possible to attach a USB keyboard to the SB Touch, then press a *keyboard shortcut* (-which one?-) to *access the terminal* and manually *re-enable the SSH* server? Try Alt-F2 (or one of the other F? keys) -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Several SB Touch issues....
1. All of a sudden, the Touch is too quiet. By that I mean that its startup chime is barely audible, as are the noises that it makes when you search or turn it off. Is this a sign that it has issues? Settings/Audio/Effects/Volume on the device itself. 2. This is probably an amateur user issue, but lately when I turn on the PC that I use to connect between my hard drive and the Touch, LMS loads. After that, I have a devil of a time getting the SB to connect to either the HD or LMS. I uninstalled and reinstalled Spotty the other day. Same issues today- I had to reboot the SB and my PC to even get the SB to connect. "connect to either the HD or LMS" doesn't make sense. You should probably give a little more info about your setup: do you run the "Tiny" LMS built in to the Touch? Or the one on your PC? What version? 3. Lists load very, very slowly on the SB. And tonight, when I tried to select an artist on my list (David Boswell), the SB would buffer, and then bring up selections for David BOWIE. Is your LMS still scanning your collection? -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch and port 23
Not sure where to ask but my router is not happy that my Touch has port 23 open. Is this needed and if not how do I close it? Wow... didn't even know 23 was open. It certainly isn't needed. But I wouldn't know how to close it either. -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?
I did disable MOG at some point. After which I was told that while MOG was dead in the US, it still existed in some way in NZ or Australia. But that's been years ago. Might be dead by now, too... Yes, and what about Napster, Deezer, Amazon CD store, MusicIP, Orange Liveradio and Slacker, etc? Of these I believe all but Amazon are still very much alive. Amazon CD store should work, too, as it's not a service, but some implementation on our end. But whether it's used or not, I don't know. But I'd agree that we could probably flag many of them disabled by default. -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?
I updated the plugin list and restarted LMS. Get rid of anything you're not sure you need. They'll reinstall easily if needed. And the prefs are not wiped in the process. -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?
More info is always welcome. I will start with downloading the newer versions of LMS. Should I go for 7.9.3 or 8? I must mention that LMS8 is the latest and greatest, of course, but it's far from finalized. It's stable as of today, but this could change at any time. If you want to take the risk, I'd suggest you check the status before updates. I'm going to announce bigger changes when they hit LMS8 nightlies. -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Problem: Can't find files:
Most likely Catalina blocking access to external disks. You'll have to grant Perl full access to your file system, as outlined in other threads. Search the forum for Catalina for details. -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezebox Touch in Endless "Verify Ethernet Connection" Loop After Factory Reset
- Where in the code? The last observation shows the problem appearing after the Ethernet checking (which is fine but this is not advertised as such and not exited on) immediately followed by a Wlan check (which seems to be defective here and this hangs that SBT). That's a good question - to which I don't have a good answer. My involvement in SP development has been marginal. https://github.com/Logitech/squeezeplay/tree/public/7.8/src ^ that's where you'd find the code. But... where in there? -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] installing Spotty
Hi, So i got my Raspberry Pi4B and burned the piCoreplayer on the SD card and got it running on the rPi4B. However the LMS never loaded on the rPi4B, I followed several threads on how to install LMS, including creating a new larger partition on the SD card, etc., but never got it to install the LMS, I always ended with an error message. As this has nothing to do with Spotty I'd recommend you post to a new or pCP/LMS installation related thread. And you include the error message. -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezebox Touch in Endless "Verify Ethernet Connection" Loop After Factory Reset
Meaning that the SBT is back, running (although with an quite older release). Wow... that's quite a finding. Which means that the latest firmware would not be able to set up a device from scratch? What would be interesting now is what happens if you update to the latest firmware. Would it continue to work?... -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezebox Touch in Endless "Verify Ethernet Connection" Loop After Factory Reset
On this SBT, trying to start the connection on the command line (no home screen!) just gives: Can't you do another factory reset with the ethernet cable unplugged, then try to configure it as WLAN? => Is there really no way to restore an older firmware via the ssh-connection? The problem appeared after a simple factory reset. The firmware you're using is what probably 90% of all Touch units out there use. I doubt downgrading will help. And no, I still don't know how to do it manually. Did you check wiki.slimdevices.com? -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezebox Touch in Endless "Verify Ethernet Connection" Loop After Factory Reset
Jan 1 01:07:17 squeezeplay: ERROR squeezeplay.task - Task.lua:75 task error halfDuplexBugVerification: ...ve/applets/SetupNetworking/SetupNetworkingApplet.lua:378: attempt to index local 'iface' (a nil value) This part sounds like a bug in Squeezeplay. Or at least unwanted behaviour due to some unexpteced data. Suggestion - Perhaps there is a low level ethernetworking interoperability problem that you can avoid by plugging in somewhere else. if you have another networked ethernet hub/switch then try plugging it into that one instead ... e.g. a spare port on your ISP router. Good idea! Once you get past the language selection part then ... maybe things will I think the device hanging is not due to the language selection, but above failure. I tried to figure out what triggers the setup route, rather than just going to the main menu. Haven't found it yet. But I'm pretty sure it should be feasible to set some flag in some config file to get there. start working when you replug it back in the place where you want it (or you can enable wifi). Wouldn't you be able to use Wifi if you did another factory reset? -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezebox Touch in Endless "Verify Ethernet Connection" Loop After Factory Reset
Many thanks for your instructions. Formerly, I just transferred the messages logfile with the SD-card (did a clean shutdown before removal). Now I could set up the SSH connection with your instructions below (BTW. you have to add the parameters "-o KexAlgorithms=+diffie-hellman-group1-sha1 -c aes256-cbc" in either the ssh- or scp- command lines on Linux) and it gets more comfortable... Ah, right. I've got that in my ~/.ssh/config file... always forget about it. |Filename: messages-20200526-1910.txt I compared this to a fresh file from one of my own Touchs. The biggest difference indeed is what you posted before, some failure around "halfDuplexBugVerification" - whatever that is... But as this is related to Ethernet, could you please try to use wlan instead? And I'd recomment you remove the SD card and only insert it when you want to transfer something. It's firing up slimserver, which slows down things a lot, and introduces more noise to the log file. -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezebox Touch in Endless "Verify Ethernet Connection" Loop After Factory Reset
Not directly IP related. But anything interesting in /var/log/messages, in particular towards the end of the file? Yes there is maybe something wrong there, after loading the plugins and starting the network polling (see extract at the end). I have no idea how you copied that log snippet, but could you please get us a full copy of /var/log/messages? I _believe_ you can enable SSH using the following steps: - "vi /etc/inetd.conf": there should be a line for ssh at the bottom of the file. Remove the # in front of it - run "kill -HUP" - try to ssh in to it -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezebox Touch in Endless "Verify Ethernet Connection" Loop After Factory Reset
I updated my post in the meantime. Here is the delta-information. I'm known not to see edits, as I follow the forum via mailing list... I did a DNS-check with "nslookup www.tsr.ch" which perfectly works. As would "ping www.google.com", I guess? Finally doing an "nslookup mysqueezebox.com" gives 6 IP addresses back. what about fab4.squeezenetwork.com? Which other IP-parameters should be checked from within the SBT? Not directly IP related. But anything interesting in /var/log/messages, in particular towards the end of the file? Is there any script that can be edited in order to directly go to the home screen upon booting? There certainly is, but I don't know where yet... How comfortable are you navigating and editing in the console using vi? You could dig around /etc/squeezeplay/userpath/settings to see what is there. -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezebox Touch in Endless "Verify Ethernet Connection" Loop After Factory Reset
Many thanks. In the SBT, I never made changes to the IP settings (IP-address, DNS, default GW all over DHCP). In the router , I tried the following (Default GW is always the address of the router itself): Would you even get a prompt to manually configure the IP settings on the touch? - DHCP activated, DNS left set to "Automatic" in the router (Swisscom Have you used this router for a while? Has there been an update recently? USB-Keyboard: Great Idea! By typing *Alt-F3* gives a terminal ;););) on which I can login as root (default PW: 1234). And which accepts "ifconfig"... but where is the "|" located on the US-Kbd.-layout in Shift-7? Is the network connection set up correctly? Can you ping eg. google.com? order to type "ifconfig | less" so that it is possible to read the details (any hints on how to to get these otherwise)? No need for less. There shouldn't bee too many interfaces? P.S. I also have an SD-card inserted with the former release (fab4.bin), how could I initiate the FW-downgrade on the command line? Don't remember right now. -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezebox Touch in Endless "Verify Ethernet Connection" Loop After Factory Reset
=> Is there any way to get over this endless Ethernet Connection I'm pretty sure there is. But don't know yet how. Could you please double-check that the IP configuration sent to your DHCP clients would be correct? In particular DNS and gateway settings are obviously crucial. Did you try manually configuring IP on the Touch? checking? Is there any hidden serial port or JTAG (eventually to be soldered) on the board to access the device and to force the home screen to appear? Not 100% sure, but rather positive. I personally do have a unit with serial connections soldered on (but haven't used it in years). I'm not sure though whether the port was part of the production units. I think You should also be able to hook up a USB keyboard, then hit ctrl-alt-f2 to switch to a terminal. -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezebox Touch screen stuck on the Language screen
Quite right - he also said that he had tried factory reset which I presume would also have reset the networking to DHCP for everything. He could still have mis-configured the DHCP server :-) -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Squeezebox Touch screen stuck on the Language screen
Temporarily move it closer to your router and plug in an Ethernet cable. OP said he tried that? But I wonder whether his DHCP setup is wrong, or whether he tried to manually configure the device's network (either through fixed DHCP address or directly) and got that wrong. -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Bizarre - Album plays lossless and spotify version
MichaelI thought the issue the OP was seeing was that when playing one album the playlist included both local and Spotify tracks. That shouldn't happen. Yes, that shouldn't happen. That's why I asked him about what revision of LMS8 he was using, because this was a known issue at some point. -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Bizarre - Album plays lossless and spotify version
I do want to use Spotify Connect though. Will your suggestion allow that to continue. Sure. If you don't want the online library integration, then I'd probably stay on 7.9. LMS8 really is all about that library integration. -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Bizarre - Album plays lossless and spotify version
I have one album in my entire collection that duplicates all of the tracks and plays each track twice - a Spotify version and the lossless version (AIFF). I am on LMS version 8.0.0. Latest and greatest LMS8? If I drill in to to the album, I think I have identified an issue - it is the only one that has an external ID. All albums imported from a music service would have an external ID. How can I remove that ID or stop LMS picking it up? I have tried PerfectTunes ID Tag and Kid3 and neither pick up this external ID. Do you want to disable all online library integration? Then just disable the Online Library Integration plugin. -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] all radio apps stopped working on SB Touch
And low and behold, it is now fixed. Thanks, Michael. today 't wasn't me! -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] all radio apps stopped working on SB Touch
The latest 7.9 Beta (March 23, 2020; 4993250) has also lost most Radio functionality as of this morning. TuneIn.com, who is providing the Radios menu, had an outage earlier today. It should be resolved by now. See http://status.tunein.com -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] all radio apps stopped working on SB Touch
Who fixed what where? The guy who broke things fixed the broken stuff on his couch at home. -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Problems and more...
here you go.29799 That's not the full file, is it? Anyway: shut down LMS. Don't restart for > 15 minutes. Meanwhile grab the latest release (yours is 2 years old?). Install, re-start not too early. You seem to have been blacklisted for too many sign-in attempts or something. -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Problems and more...
Boom will only play Pandora through mysqueezebox.com NOT LMS. It logins to LMS but will not play Pandora. When selecting Pandora (LMS) is says "unexpected error" Please post your server.log.zip (see Settings/Information). -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Problems and more...
Pandora will only play on the Boom through squeezebox.com ...not LMS What happens when you try to play Pandora through the Boom? -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Problems and more...
The Boom will only play Pandora if I go to Squeezebox.com How does it fail otherwise? -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SB Touch and Internet Radio
Yeah, that may be true and a great benefit to the OP who specifically wants TuneIn. Personally, I don't use TuneIn at all so if/when MySB.com disappears my main use of SB vanishes with it. :( What's your main use? -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SB Touch and Internet Radio
This is my preferred way to run LMS (with --nomysqeezebox.com) as I don't need any of it's services, did so for years, but it seems to upset a few folk on these forums. :( That would surprise me. I only mentioned at some point that having LMS talk to mysb.com was the only way for me to "prove" the liveliness of the SB community. If the management saw that there were only a hand full of users, they'd quickly shut down mysb.com. But when I can prove that we still have a gazillion users out there, people are impressed - and scared by the consequences a shutdown might have. Keep in mind that Logitech not only runs mysb.com, but this forum as well as build systems etc. -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SB Touch and Internet Radio
The SB Touch *does* have it's own inbuilt server (Tiny SB), you don't need to have Logitech Media Server (LMS) running on a PC, nor do you need to connect to mysqueezebox.com. But please note that this will not have any advantage over using mysb if you don't plan to use local music files. And it does not help with mysb's limitations mentioned by bpa. If you want to use LMS to enable https streaming, then you'll need something better than TinySB. -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SB Touch and Internet Radio
Food for thought... I have a spare raspberry Pi that I can set up for the job. PiCore apparently an application that runs with the Linux OS of the Pi. What version OS would you recommend for the Pi? (I am absolutely useless with Linux, I have to admit). piCorePlayer (or short pCP) is all the OS you need. -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Random track added to playlist
Recently I get a message popping up when i am listening to a Spotify playlist through Squeezebox Touch, it says random track added to playlist. Would you have the verbatim message? Or a screenshot? -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Update 7.9.3...?
Just installed 7.9.2 Update today and at the Right bottom of my Web control panel it it informs a new version 7.9.3 is available. Is this a small update ..? and When I Go into git hub, How do I download it ..? I assume its a genuine upgrade. Hmm... I wonder why you'd be offered 7.9.3. As 7.9.2 is now considered stable, you shouldn't automatically get 7.9.3. But anyway: it only has minor fixes compared to 7.9.2. If you're running the latest 7.9.2 without any problem, then there's no need to update. -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Mac OS High Sierra Version 10.13.6
Is this a good fix? Or is there another? It's THE fix. -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Constantly having to uninstall reinstall LMS
Rescaned library nothing on LMS. What exactly did you do? Reset touch to factory setting. No help. No need to do this. It's purely a LMS issue. Deleted LMS form setting pane and re installed 7.9.2 1578727069 LMS now shows library BUT touch does not. Because the Touch is connected to MYSB instead of your LMS. -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Constantly having to uninstall reinstall LMS
Sorry , missed that link. will try to add perl to full disc access and give it a shot. Will I need to restart anything afterwards? Restart LMS. -- -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Constantly having to uninstall reinstall LMS
Thanks for you help. I have no idea how to investigate what Catalina might be doing to interfere with LMS. Just read the thread I linked above... -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Constantly having to uninstall reinstall LMS
first I try to reset touch. No help next I rescan library, once finished LMS show ZERO tracks loaded. next I delete LMS and install latest version. And that seems to work for a while. This doesn't answer two out of my three questions... You should really look in to the Catalina issues. I'm pretty sure that's it. -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Constantly having to uninstall reinstall LMS
Thanks Michael. I'll have to get the exact file next time this happens. It will usually work for several days in a row, then after a week idle , I'll need to delete and re install LMS. What would make you believe you'd have to re-install? Would a restart not be good enough? The message is something like" cant read etc by the Who" it then trys to play the next song with the same message. I'm running 10.15.2 Catilina. Cant remember if I was having these issues before or after upgrade. I have made no changes to anything that im aware of. Did you see the discussion around Catalina and some of its changed behaviour? With external disks you sometimes have to give LMS special permissions to access all disks. See eg. https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?111037=952533=1#post952533 -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Tidal app stops after one track
I'm having this problem as well, pretty persistently. Rebooting hasn't helped, nor has reinstalling the app. See the following thread: https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?111098-Tidal-App-on-my-squeezebox-com-Invalid-phone-number-or-password=958244=1#post958244 TIDAL is aware of the problem. I hope to have a solution this week. -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Constantly having to uninstall reinstall LMS
Problem started a few months ago. When I start the touch, I get a message that"cant find file". Could you please give us the exact, verbatim error message? And when exactly are you getting this message? Is there anything in your LMS' server.log? Anything that changed on the computer (eg. did you update macOS)? -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] IPeng and Tidal issue
Most likely this is the same problem as this: https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?111098-Tidal-App-on-my-squeezebox-com-Invalid-phone-number-or-password=958244=1#post958244 -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch as a server?
Also, I am not sure if tiny LMS is still being maintained, but I think I I'm sorry, it's no longer being maintained. found a tiny insignificant bug - I added "switch to mysqeezebox.com" to Why would you switch to mysb? -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch as a server?
I listen to internet radio stations worldwide everyday on my Logitech Squeezebox touch (firmware 7.8.0-R16754) connected to LMS 7.9.2 on i-Mac OS10.5. I enter all radio stations URL in my favourite. All works perfectly except this URL Totally off-topic. -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch as a server?
Michael, to clarify, mysb won't be available, or is it that it wont solve the https issue? It won't solve the https issue. -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch as a server?
Curious, with touch as a server, would the option to switch to mysb.com still be available on the menus? This would address the https streaming. No, it would not, as mysb can't stream those either. Rescan is not an issue, but the "random crashes" are concerning to me (my friends inability to tolerate, restart things). Do they "just happen" or is it when you try to do too much? I think it's just too low on memory. Anything that increases memory usage can be risky. Using the image screen saver is a safe way to kill TinyLMS. Or larger libraries. Or probably just messing around. Give it a try. -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch as a server?
Try it. A 32GB SD card or 64GB flash drive costs under $10 so not much to lose. The biggest issue with "Tiny SC" is speed (library rescans, in particular), but it may be adequate for your friend particularly if the card/drive is updated infrequently. Besides speed and random crashes due to running out of memory I'm seeing one more important issue (compared to LMS on a different system, not mysb): more and more music services and radio stations require https streaming. The Touch can't handle this. -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] https support (e.g. pod radio)
I'm having problems playing back pod casts hosted on https. Noticed some discussion threads on this topic, and wanted to know what is the current status (SB Touch). Make sure you're running the latest 7.9.2 nightly build. -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Cannot access favourites - connection times out
Does that explain why some of my icons disappeared yesterday but have now returned? (Staff picks, podcasts, Tunein, Sounds and effects) Very possible. There was a network connectivity issue between some of the hosts. -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Cannot access favourites - connection times out
I'm happy to see, that my favourites are working again this morning :-D Thanks for the heads up. We did indeed have a hiccup in one of our datacenters. Should be fixed now. -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Thumbnails sometimes not visible on SB touch
My last scan log looks like: What about the server.log? The scan might have succeeded, but the server might encounter an issue serving the file. -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
