Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Scan experiences with the internal squeezebox server of the Touch (USB-HD)
I sent the squeezebox touch back. They can't be serious that a simple HDD should take more than 9 hours to be scaned! Im really disappointed about that. If you want the touch as a stand alone player, just forget it! -- perro6969 perro6969's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37592 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77600 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How to check the progress of a scan of the USB drive?
RichardLittlewood;537662 Wrote: Hey, you're not alone.I've got a big library of 250 Gbytes, and had numerous issues getting my new Squeezebox touch to work properly. My main problem was that when scanning for files, after about 4 hours of scanning the HDD, some time after starting to scan album art, the squeezebox stops with an error music server stopped due to a problem. I tried 4 different models of USB HDD (including a powered one) and I bought a USB powered hub in case the unpowered USB HDDs couldn't supply sufficient current without luck. Some issues I had along the way included: 1) USB connection dropped repeatedly. 2) When I navigate to a file and try to play it I get an error Problem can not open file for: 3) GUI freezes or is unuseably slow 4) Server needs restarting 5) Impossible to browse by tags because every time you enter a menu such as Artists It takes forever to populate the entries. That would be OK if it remembered them, but as soon as you exit that menu and re-enter it does the same thing again. 6) Squeezebox hangs saying it is scanning but it's not, the HDD isn't even spinning. Eventually after several scans, wipe and rescans and factory resets, I got it to scan everything although albumart is missing (which was working at one point), I can't log into the squeezebox server (which was working) and the device is permanently scanning for new files (which I guess is making the GUI so slow).Wouldn't it make more sense to be able to manually control the file scanning and choose the directories. I have other stuff on my HDD I don't want scanned. I also tried to point the picture viewer at a picasa album embedded URL and that failed too. So, I'm very unimpressed so far but I haven't given up yet. Hi, I'm having the same problems as you... http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77600 http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77156 I still can't find a solution. Even the Logitech support couldn't give me a good answer to my problems. I think we can forget using the touch as a stand alone player for USB HD's containing big music collections -- perro6969 perro6969's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37592 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77230 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Scan experiences with the internal squeezbox server of the Touch (USB-HD)
Hello, I would like to open this thread to collect experiences of scaning times of your music from an external USB HD using the internal squeezebox server of the Touch (Touch as a stand alone player using an external USB HD). I've already posted my experiences in another thread, but I would like to open this one, so we can get an overview of how the touch behaves depending of the mount of data to be scaned or the type of USB HD (2,5 or 3,5 external HD's). Maybe we can get something usefull from this for the developers of the server software... USB-HD: Toshiba 2,5, 500 GB, AC powered Files: ~5 Scan time: ~9-12 hours Scan results: sucessfull, but when trying to play something, the server stops, restarts and begings to scan the USB for new files Scan for new files time: ~9 hours If you have any solution to reduce the scan times, we will be very glad to hear about it! (please don't write to have less files) You can use this template for your results: USB-HD: Files: Scan time: Scan results: Scan for new files time: Thanks and regards! Nacho PS: To the moderators, if you think this is a bad idea, just ignore this thread, but if you think this can be usefull, please create a Sticky, to have it always on the first page. -- perro6969 perro6969's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37592 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77600 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Scan experiences with the internal squeezebox server of the Touch (USB-HD)
pounce;537474 Wrote: Have you updated the firmware after unboxing? The firmware is up-to-date (first thing done after starting the touch for the first time), but what do you exactly mean with unboxing? -- perro6969 perro6969's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37592 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77600 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Scan experiences with the internal squeezebox server of the Touch (USB-HD)
ah...ok. Thanks! ...and how is your experience with the scaning? -- perro6969 perro6969's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37592 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77600 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Scan experiences with the internal squeezebox server of the Touch (USB-HD)
and what about a small NAS solution? how faster is it? Is there any not too expensive (more or less 100 EUR) NAS HD, in which the squeezebox server can be installed? I've already seen the list on the wiki, but they all are too expensive and big. Any experiences with this? -- perro6969 perro6969's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37592 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77600 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Scan experiences with the internal squeezebox server of the Touch (USB-HD)
krochat;537518 Wrote: I think there should be an option to disable or bypass the new file scan once the database has been created. It could even prompt with scan for new files? when a drive with an existing scan database has been newly attached (or the Touch has been rebooted). yeah...I would say they should add an option to disable the scan at all, or to choose between a deep scan (ID3 tag scan) or a simple folder and filename scan (no ID3 tag, only file structure). The search modul should then be able to search for folder or filenames. The ID3 Tag information could be read from the file and be displayed directly while playing the title. -- perro6969 perro6969's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37592 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77600 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 2 USB drive questions for Touch
JJZolx;536328 Wrote: _During_ the initial library scan? Yeah, it can probably be expected to be slow. Afterward, it should be acceptable. I scaned the HD again. It took 9 hours!!. After that I have the same problems searching or starting a title. Now I'm waiting more than 1 hour to re-scan (searching for new files). I think I will call the logitech support, because this CAN'T be OK. How long did you wait for the first scan? -- perro6969 perro6969's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37592 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77156 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 2 USB drive questions for Touch
kidstypike;536497 Wrote: Brand new LaCie 500 gig mains powered USB HD 27000 tracks, initial scan 5.5 hours, crashed during artwork scan. Restarted server, this time completed artwork scan, about 6.5 hours total. Playing an album or random songs, usually the first track is ruined by stuttering - restarting, but eventually settles down and plays ok until I try to skip a track, this usually crashes the server, restarting the server, DISCOVERING_DIRECTORY PROGRESS takes 20 mins. Thinking there was a problem with the HD, I attached the Maxtor 500 gig HD that I use for my PC Squeezebox server. Scan times similar to the first HD, however after two crashes attempting to scan the artwork, I gave it up. I deleted loads of albums from the first HD, down to 14500 tracks. Checked all tags with Mp3tag, checked all embedded artwork was below 150kb, with TagRename. Mounted this squeaky clean drive on the Touch. Scan took about 2 hours with no problems. (Remaining scan time is way out, you can practically double whatever is displayed). Exactly same problems with stuttering/crashing. DISCOVERING_DIRECTORY PROGRESS now takes 11.5 minutes. I bought the Touch with a view to this being the basis of my audio set-up, however, using the inbuilt server has completely ruined the Touch user experience for me. As it stands at the moment, I would not recommend the Touch as a stand alone player/server. Many thanks for your feedback!! I thought I was the only one having this problem so I called the Logitech support in Germany and they said it was for sure a software problem and that I should wait for the new version of the server. I'll wait for the new version and if I still have the same problem, I'll send the touch back. I hope they are right and logitech can solve this bug with the new version... -- perro6969 perro6969's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37592 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77156 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 2 USB drive questions for Touch
Ali Tait;536566 Wrote: How often are new versions released? they told me that maybe in 2 or 3 weeks there will be a new version of the server. I hope the information is real and they didn't say it just to calm me. -- perro6969 perro6969's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37592 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77156 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 2 USB drive questions for Touch
Hello everybody, I'm having similar problems... I have an 500 GB 2,5 external USB HD. Because the Squeezebox had some problems recognizing the drive, I bought an AC self powered USB Hub to solve the problem. There are more or less 5 titles on the HD. It took 8 hours to scan it. I thought that now everything should go faster, but no! It takes a very long time to navigate through artists or albums (more or less 7-10 sec) and when I choose a song, then it takes other 5-8 sec to be started or added to the playlist. I don't have this problem when accessing the same USB HD connected to my PC via WLAN. I installed the server on it and run the scan. The navigation is fast and starting a title takes no longer than 1 sec. Is this normal? I thought if the Squeezebox Touch accesses the USB HD directly it should be faster than via WLAN. For me it makes no sense. That's why I think something should be wrong with my Squeezebox Touch. What do you think? I am doing something wrong? Is it better to use a 3,5 external HD? Many thanks for your help and comments in advance! Nacho -- perro6969 perro6969's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37592 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77156 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 2 USB drive questions for Touch
I don't know... Today I don't have too much time, but tomorrow, I can compare the database files created by the server on the PC (have to find out first where is it located) and the one created by the embedded server (located on the HD itself). If they are the same, I suppose this could be done. It's a good idea if it works! thanks! -- perro6969 perro6969's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37592 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77156 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 2 USB drive questions for Touch
hmmm...In that case, then I think it won't work. thanks for the information! But coming back to the original question...Is it normal that navigating through the artist or album list or starting to play a title is so slow? Do you have the same problem? if not, which USB HD are you using? -- perro6969 perro6969's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37592 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77156 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
