Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] While waiting for Touch saw Pure Sensia
kantblue;488860 Wrote: Hi radish The lack of support for FLAC is a definite minus for me as is the lack of outputs (though I think the radio is the same). Indeed, which is why I suggested you compare it to a Radio, rather than a Touch. Alas, the price doesn't look very good when you look at it that way! I'm only vaguely familiar with upnp, can you explain the implications and why its a negative if you have time? Basically means it uses something like Twonky, or Windows Media Player as it's server software instead of SBS. That means no custom plugins, no sync between players, no web control, no iPeng (or anything similar) and so on. I've also never seen a upnp based player which can play gapless - which is a deal breaker for me. -- radish 'HELP ME RAISE MONEY FOR CHILDREN'S CANCER RESEARCH!' (HTTP://WWW.ADAMREEVE.COM/24IN24/) http://www.last.fm/user/polymeric radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71680 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] control SB Touch wirelessly?
And just to clarify on the Ubuntu 9.10/SBS 7.4.1 issues, I'm pretty sure they're fixed but if not, be confident they will be. Plenty of people around here run Ubuntu and it's one of the best supported platforms. -- radish 'HELP ME RAISE MONEY FOR CHILDREN'S CANCER RESEARCH!' (HTTP://WWW.ADAMREEVE.COM/24IN24/) http://www.last.fm/user/polymeric radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71661 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] While waiting for Touch saw Pure Sensia
It only talks to upnp servers, which is a big minus in my book. Also doesn't seem to support FLAC (or indeed any lossless encoding), and most importantly doesn't have any audio outputs other than headphones! Not even in the same league as the Touch, maybe suitable as a sub par Radio for twice the price ;) -- radish 'HELP ME RAISE MONEY FOR CHILDREN'S CANCER RESEARCH!' (HTTP://WWW.ADAMREEVE.COM/24IN24/) http://www.last.fm/user/polymeric radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71680 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Sound quality compromized when using TinySC ?
Phil Leigh;486419 Wrote: I have no way of measuring the s/pdif output except by playing it through an external DAC. Clearly no samples are dropped etc otw DTS wouldn't work. I have a decent sound card with SPDIF in which I could hook up to the Touch and run audiodiffmaker against if that would be at all useful. -- radish 'HELP ME RAISE MONEY FOR CHILDREN'S CANCER RESEARCH!' (HTTP://WWW.ADAMREEVE.COM/24IN24/) http://www.last.fm/user/polymeric radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70979 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] What will the Touch do to 16/44.1 over SPDIF
Yes, the extra 0 byte is added to the bottom (lsb). -- radish 'HELP ME RAISE MONEY FOR CHILDREN'S CANCER RESEARCH!' (HTTP://WWW.ADAMREEVE.COM/24IN24/) http://www.last.fm/user/polymeric radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71345 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Chumby?
It's very vague about what it's doing, would be interested in seeing more details! -- radish 'HELP ME RAISE MONEY FOR CHILDREN'S CANCER RESEARCH!' (HTTP://WWW.ADAMREEVE.COM/24IN24/) http://www.last.fm/user/polymeric radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=68036 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Digital out of Touch vs Transporter
gsawdy;480601 Wrote: PS it appears that mods can't delete bum threads---odd! Certainly can. Which thread are you referring to? -- radish 'HELP ME RAISE MONEY FOR CHILDREN'S CANCER RESEARCH!' (HTTP://WWW.ADAMREEVE.COM/24IN24/) http://www.last.fm/user/polymeric radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70623 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SB Touch as controller for Duet receiver
AndyK;480686 Wrote: As far as I know, the Touch is supplied with a infrared remote, so that it will work with a Harmony, is this correct?. If so, will I then be able to control a receiver via a harmony that controls the touch? Yes and yes. Regarding audio streaming maxing out the network, I guess the guy experiencing this was also using it heavily for downloading etc to cause stuttering in the sound and slow response on the controller. At the moment I have a 11b device on my network and with that on, I assume the network will have trouble coping with the traffic (although I have ordered a 2200bg mini PCI card for my GFs old thinkpad - dirt cheap at the moment. Even with that out of the way, I still feel more secure with wired connection for the audio traffic and also the price for the controller alone is very high compared to buying a controller+receiver set so its hard to justify not getting the receiver also. So put the SBR in the bedroom as an extra zone. FLAC is a pretty insignificant amount of traffic for a decent wireless network to carry, and the Touch has a pretty big buffer. When using the Touch to control the receiver, will it then also pull an audio stream from the network because it assumes it's connected to an amplifier, or is it possible to configure it in such a way that it will ONLY function as a control device? Think of the Touch as a player and controller in one box. Just because the controller's doing something doesn't mean the player is - they're entirely seperate. So if nothing has told the player to start playing, it won't :) -- radish 'HELP ME RAISE MONEY FOR CHILDREN'S CANCER RESEARCH!' (HTTP://WWW.ADAMREEVE.COM/24IN24/) http://www.last.fm/user/polymeric radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70801 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Chumby?
hungarianhc;480919 Wrote: What is the current status of chumby integration? There is none. Assuming the Chumby can play a standard http stream you could get it playing that way (via stream.mp3) but that's far from what I'd call integration. Someone could write an applet for Chumby to talk slimproto, but AFAIK no one has. -- radish 'HELP ME RAISE MONEY FOR CHILDREN'S CANCER RESEARCH!' (HTTP://WWW.ADAMREEVE.COM/24IN24/) http://www.last.fm/user/polymeric radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=68036 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Portable player and SB Touch
Errr...iPod? -- radish 'HELP ME RAISE MONEY FOR CHILDREN'S CANCER RESEARCH!' (HTTP://WWW.ADAMREEVE.COM/24IN24/) http://www.last.fm/user/polymeric radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70403 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch DAC ?
AKM4420 See: http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/HardwareComparison -- radish 'HELP ME RAISE MONEY FOR CHILDREN'S CANCER RESEARCH!' (HTTP://WWW.ADAMREEVE.COM/24IN24/) http://www.last.fm/user/polymeric radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70123 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Limit to number of synched players served? Unsynched?
The main problem is that very few people have spent any serious time with SBS on the Touch, including testers. We'll know more when it's ready for playing with :) -- radish 'HELP ME RAISE MONEY FOR CHILDREN'S CANCER RESEARCH!' (HTTP://WWW.ADAMREEVE.COM/24IN24/) http://www.last.fm/user/polymeric radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69808 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch and Transcoding
gorman;473814 Wrote: I just wish to stress that I wasn't in any way implying malice, hence the unintentional bit. Edit: although now ALAC native support is mentioned in the official product page, with price, buy me now and all the regular stuff. Has it been added? My understanding is that it was there, then it was discovered to be buggy and disabled. The plan is to add it back when there's time in the schedule - more details on the bugzilla link previously provided. -- radish 'HELP ME RAISE MONEY FOR CHILDREN'S CANCER RESEARCH!' (HTTP://WWW.ADAMREEVE.COM/24IN24/) http://www.last.fm/user/polymeric radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69512 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch and Transcoding
Watch this space. Come release time, I'm sure the spec page will be updated if ALAC support isn't available. -- radish 'HELP ME RAISE MONEY FOR CHILDREN'S CANCER RESEARCH!' (HTTP://WWW.ADAMREEVE.COM/24IN24/) http://www.last.fm/user/polymeric radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69512 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Few questions about the SB Touch
dan0di;468311 Wrote: 1. Is it possible to use a controller with display for the touch. I don't like the idea that I have to use the remote that comes with it and look on the screen (which is about 3m away from my bed :). Maybe the Duet controller can be somehow used, or another controller. You can use the Controller, IR remote, iPeng, etc etc. The web interface is not available if you're using it with the built in server but you can use that as well if it's connected to SBS or SN. 2. For the first time ever, the SB has a server of its own, meaning that you can also connect usb drives and sd card and you don't need a device on with the server software installed. Does this also mean you can use about any NAS, and not only select group of NAS which are compatible with it? Not yet - the current software can't connect to music stores over the network, just local via USB/SD. I would expect to see that coming though, there's a while before this thing is done! 3. Oh yes, one thing. Can the lcd screen be dimmed or turned off somehow or should it be on the whole time? Sure - the screensavers/modes are basically the same as SBC, including off. -- radish 'HELP ME RAISE MONEY FOR CHILDREN'S CANCER RESEARCH!' (HTTP://WWW.ADAMREEVE.COM/24IN24/) http://www.last.fm/user/polymeric radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69330 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Few questions about the SB Touch
dan0di;468394 Wrote: Could you elaborate on this? So I understand when connected to SBS or SN you have the same web interface on the controller as e.g. the SB Duet? There's no web interface on the Controller, so I'm not sure what you mean by that. Players have to be connected to a server. With current players that's either SqueezeNetwork/MySqueezebox.com or a local instance of the server running on a computer. Both of these have web interfaces for control. With Touch you have a third option - you can run the server on the Touch itself. In this case the web interface is disabled. All the other control types (IR, SBC, iPeng, etc) still work. -- radish 'HELP ME RAISE MONEY FOR CHILDREN'S CANCER RESEARCH!' (HTTP://WWW.ADAMREEVE.COM/24IN24/) http://www.last.fm/user/polymeric radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69330 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Wall-Mount Bracket at $99.99 ?
Jonnio;462463 Wrote: Just look at this in comparison to the touch itself. The profit margins between the two products (from a bill of materials vs sale price perspective) is probably very similar, but I doubt the engineering cost vs sales ratios are remotely close to the same. Not to mention the continued engineering, warranty etc... Costs that the touch will incur which the bracket won't. Maybe, but I bet they sell an awful lot more Touches than wall mounts, hence the fixed initial costs have to be spread out over fewer sales. I'm probably not going to buy a wall mount, but for me it's not $100 for a piece of plastic but $399 for a wall mounted player. Cost is related to the production expense for the manufacturer, but should only really be related to the utility for the consumer. In other words, it's not how much it cost to make but how useful it will be to you which should decide it's price. -- radish 'HELP ME RAISE MONEY FOR CHILDREN'S CANCER RESEARCH!' (HTTP://WWW.ADAMREEVE.COM/24IN24/) http://www.last.fm/user/polymeric radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=68046 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Power over ethernet
Hey...I got it...I just couldn't think of a witty enough retort ;) -- radish 'HELP ME RAISE MONEY FOR CHILDREN'S CANCER RESEARCH!' (HTTP://WWW.ADAMREEVE.COM/24IN24/) http://www.last.fm/user/polymeric radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=68178 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Will we ever see an in-car version of the Touch?
gorman;459655 Wrote: LAME is not natively gapless. Vorbis and FLAC are. LAME is not a format, Vorbis and FLAC are :) You're right that bog-standard mp3 is not gapless, but the LAME gapless headers are pretty well understood these days, to the point of being a standard. I somehow doubt that iTunes import functions rely on LAME headers for doing gapless on iPod. My understanding from when iTunes/iPod started doing gapless (which was a while ago) was that iTunes parsed the LAME headers when you imported the file and then wrote it's own tags/db entries/whatever. The iPod itself wasn't reading the headers directly. Whatever it does, it works fine for me - getting that right was the last thing Apple had to do to get me to replace my Karma :) I'm _very_ sensitive to gaps/clips, so I'd notice. By the way, I own a iPod Touch 2G. It should be moder enough, shouldn't it? Sure, I've used an old 5G iPod and several generations of iPhone, all work fine. I've done the conversions variously with foobar, dbPoweramp and flac2mp3 (which just pipes the output of flac to the input of lame). -- radish 'HELP ME RAISE MONEY FOR CHILDREN'S CANCER RESEARCH!' (HTTP://WWW.ADAMREEVE.COM/24IN24/) http://www.last.fm/user/polymeric radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=68009 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Will we ever see an in-car version of the Touch?
gorman;459612 Wrote: Is this why every car manufacturer offers built-in sat navigation as an option? Because *the market* is satisfied with Tom Tom and Garmin? Because it lets them sell a $200 upgrade for $2000, and people seem not to understand that in most cases a Garmin/TomTom is actually better than the built in systems. In short - because they can and it's profitable. Are you saying that you like to have to carry with you *always* an iPod, lest risking of not having music in the car? I _do_ always have it with me, because it's my phone as well. Whats more, my commute involves a ferry ride and a car drive - when transitioning between the two I can keep listening to whatever I was listening to with hardly a pause...wouldn't be possible with two seperate systems. That you are happy not being able to control it from the steering wheel (risking your life and that of others)? Steering wheel controls work fine for me. -- radish 'HELP ME RAISE MONEY FOR CHILDREN'S CANCER RESEARCH!' (HTTP://WWW.ADAMREEVE.COM/24IN24/) http://www.last.fm/user/polymeric radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=68009 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Will we ever see an in-car version of the Touch?
gorman;459337 Wrote: Also, what about the fact that gapless playback is not necessarily perfect unless you rip inside iTunes? If you go the FLAC---Nero AAC way you are not guaranteed perfect gaplessness. FLAC-lame works just fine for all my gapless stuff (and I have a LOT!). What about the fact the the on-the-fly playlist tool is ridiculous? No play this next option, in 2009? Come on... Rio Karma *still* has iPods beaten in too many areas when you restrict the field to music. :( To re-iterate, I own an iPod Touch, but for in-car use a properly integrated 2-DIN Squeezebox Touch would kick its ass anytime. Agreed, ipod is far from the perfect portable player. But what I really want is a better ipod (that I can carry around or use in the car) - not a player that's attached to a 2 ton lump of metal. I remember when car phones became cell phones and as far as I'm concerned car stereos have already become speakers for mp3 players. Just need a better mp3 player... -- radish 'HELP ME RAISE MONEY FOR CHILDREN'S CANCER RESEARCH!' (HTTP://WWW.ADAMREEVE.COM/24IN24/) http://www.last.fm/user/polymeric radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=68009 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Touch video
In case anyone's interested I put a short video up on the System Photos forum showing the menus, Now Playing screen, etc. http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67427 -- radish 'HELP ME RAISE MONEY FOR CHILDREN'S CANCER RESEARCH!' (HTTP://WWW.ADAMREEVE.COM/24IN24/) http://www.last.fm/user/polymeric radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67689 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
