Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Should I buy a Squeezebox Touch?
Can't tell anyone if he should or should not buy one but I just picked up (couple weeks ago - prices seem to have gone way up since) a backup to my Touch - that's how much I like it. I was late to the party and only picked up my first SB Touch (first SB of any kind, for that matter) late last year so it may have been more difficult to use earlier on but my usability experience has been very positive, especially in conjunction with iPeng. I use it to stream hi-res FLAC, Apple lossless, etc. from my computer upstairs to my office/music room in the basement. I don't want to interface with the PC in the office for music listening - it's a small enough room that any fan is pretty noisy. I've also integrated MOG and that works perfectly as well. Great device. Jack Gilvey's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=57582 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96578 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Should I buy a Squeezebox Touch?
mlsstl wrote: Ultimately, the only really important issue to me is that I hang onto my music files. There are lots of ways to play them, but right now, I like the Squeezebox method the best. Aha! This statement actually best captures my view on this. garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96578 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Should I buy a Squeezebox Touch?
ralphpnj wrote: Very well stated. It should also be noted when using the Touch's digital output fed into an external DAC, the Touch is the equal of any audiophile music streamer, regardless of price. Plus the Touch's analog outputs are first rate as well. The final kicker is that I'm fairly certain that there will always be a way for me to stream my digital music files (99% flac) to my stereo system, whether that involved a Touch, a Transporter or some other non-Logitech device. Buying a Touch will always be a good decision. Well what are you gonna do when your computer craps out and you have to buy a new one , then you find out with your computer's new operating system won't run LMS ? Then you go back and search for an older LMS version and they don't work either . I guess your current computer or for that matter any operating system on that computer will never change the next time you update it . When Apple or Microsoft alter their software , who knows if LMS will work . Maybe it will but then again maybe it won't . jhonsber...@msn.com's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4438 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96578 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Should I buy a Squeezebox Touch?
jhonsber...@msn.com wrote: Well what are you gonna do when your computer craps out and you have to buy a new one , then you find out with your computer's new operating system won't run LMS ? Then you go back and search for an older LMS version and they don't work either . I guess your current computer or for that matter any operating system on that computer will never change the next time you update it . When Apple or Microsoft alter their software , who knows if LMS will work . Maybe it will but then again maybe it won't . I use special purpose headless computers to run LMS. So the computers I actually use (currently all running Win7) are independent from the computers running LMS (currently vortexbox appliances running fedora linux). For those computers running LMS I can choose to leave them on something that works with LMS (as it all does now). Obviously in the long run (or even medium term), I'll be doing something else entirely (because everything eventually changes, and sometime for the better). I suspect my SB stuff will work well for me for at least 2 more years, maybe as much as 4 years. And by then, the technology (networks, players, servers, music services, etc.) will likely be very different from today. And the real key (for me) is that the entire cost of my SB ecosystem, including 3 VB servers, is mere rounding error compared to the cost of the CDs I've purchased over the years. If I saw another system that would work well for me, I'd buy it. But I actually don't see anything on the market at the moment that can actually replace my SB functionality. garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96578 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Should I buy a Squeezebox Touch?
garym wrote: I use special purpose headless computers to run LMS. So the computers I actually use (currently all running Win7) are independent from the computers running LMS (currently vortexbox appliances running fedora linux). For those computers running LMS I can choose to leave them on something that works with LMS (as it all does now). Obviously in the long run (or even medium term), I'll be doing something else entirely (because everything eventually changes, and sometime for the better). I suspect my SB stuff will work well for me for at least 2 more years, maybe as much as 4 years. And by then, the technology (networks, players, servers, music services, etc.) will likely be very different from today. And the real key (for me) is that the entire cost of my SB ecosystem, including 3 VB servers, is mere rounding error compared to the cost of the CDs I've purchased over the years. If I saw another system that would work well for me, I'd buy it. But I actually don't see anything on the market at the moment that can actually replace my SB functionality. Nice setup . I agree the there is nothing on the market that can beat the Touch . Yet since I use music services about 50 percent of the time I will opt out on buying another one . jhonsber...@msn.com's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4438 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96578 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Should I buy a Squeezebox Touch?
jhonsber...@msn.com wrote: I plan on using a computer connection direct to a dac without a Logitech Touch . With the asynchronous USB dacs out there , many of them superb , I certainly don't see the need of buying discontinued product . That's a good option and in fact what I did before SB (except at the time using computer S/PDIF DAC). Main downside for me in returning to such a setup is not being able to sync multiple players as I can now. There's also the noise factor of having a PC near the stereo, but this can be solved with a silent, fanless PC of some sort (fitpc2 or something). garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96578 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Should I buy a Squeezebox Touch?
jhonsber...@msn.com wrote: Nice setup . I agree the there is nothing on the market that can beat the Touch . Yet since I use music services about 50 percent of the time I will opt out on buying another one . Yes, music services and things like SiriusXM would be a problem for me if they go away. (well actually more a problem for my wife as she's the major user of the services and SiriusXM). Should these services disappear I'll have to figure out something. Either something new entirely or a hybrid system (local music and internet radio through the SB stuff and something else feeding the stereo and other players for services). garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96578 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Should I buy a Squeezebox Touch?
jhonsber...@msn.com wrote: Well what are you gonna do when your computer craps out and you have to buy a new one , then you find out with your computer's new operating system won't run LMS ? Then you go back and search for an older LMS version and they don't work either . I believe that you missed my main point: it's not the playback device that I'm overly concerned with, although this device is important, but rather the fact my music library is now comprised of flac files. Whatever may happen in the future I'm fairly certain that I will somehow be able to access and play these files, whether with a Squeezebox device or some other device capable of playing flac files. In fact, I own a WD TV Live media player with does play flac files but it doesn't support high resolution files and has no library management functions whatsoever. ralphpnj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10827 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96578 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Should I buy a Squeezebox Touch?
jhonsber...@msn.com wrote: Well what are you gonna do when your computer craps out and you have to buy a new one , then you find out with your computer's new operating system won't run LMS ? A couple of thoughts. 1. I've had a personal computer since about 1981 or 82, and while I know things do happen, offhand I can't think of any circumstance I've had where an operating system upgrade didn't have backwards compatibility with my existing software. It wasn't too long ago that I had to reinstall a 1993 copy of Lotus Approach to recapture an old data file. 2. And, like ralphpnj, I run a dedicated server for my music and have a copy of the Linux-based software. It can be easily and quickly reinstalled on any replacement machine. Since my PC is dedicated only to music service, there is no need constantly update it. It isn't exposed to the internet, needs no virus or hacking protection, and if it works properly as a music server today, it'll keep doing that for a long time. 3. Ultimately, the only really important issue to me is that I hang onto my music files. There are lots of ways to play them, but right now, I like the Squeezebox method the best. I've got no reason to abandon a player and format that serves me well. 10 years from now, who knows? But any other option I jump into right now carries the same risk (and maybe more.) Now, just because the Touch works well for some of us doesn't mean that it is a universal approach. No matter what the product, some people will always prefer something different. I got used to that a long time ago. mlsstl's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9598 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96578 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Should I buy a Squeezebox Touch?
Benefactor wrote: FWIW, Touches are still in stock at BH Photo here in NYC. $259 free shipping (USA). https://secure.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?Ntt=logitech+squeezeboxN=0InitialSearch=yessts=maTop+Nav-Search= Now they are out of stock. Glad I picked up a few when I did. Benefactor's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=25904 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96578 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Should I buy a Squeezebox Touch?
Buying a discontinued product that relies on bug fixes to maintain its functionality when there is some doubt as to whether Logitech will put forth the effort to correct those problems Is ludicrous IMO . jhonsber...@msn.com's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4438 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96578 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Should I buy a Squeezebox Touch?
jhonsber...@msn.com wrote: Buying a discontinued product that relies on bug fixes to maintain its functionality when there is some doubt as to whether Logitech will put forth the effort to correct those problems Is ludicrous IMO . Nonsense. Sure there are some slight issues and minor problems with the Touch and LMS (or SBS) but to say that these issues make the product nonfunctional is just not true. For 99% of Touch users these bugs go completely unnoticed and they use their Touch with no problems or lack of functionality. If one is addicted to having the latest and greatest of whatever is the hot item in the gadget world (iPhone 5S, iPad4, etc.) then the Touch is not for them. However if one wants a simple device that performs as advertised then the Touch is a very good choice. ralphpnj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10827 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96578 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Should I buy a Squeezebox Touch?
jhonsber...@msn.com wrote: Buying a discontinued product that relies on bug fixes to maintain its functionality when there is some doubt as to whether Logitech will put forth the effort to correct those problems Is ludicrous IMO . depends on your planned use. I have extras to be able to slot in easily should one of my other players die (i.e., insurance!). The entire system is likely to work for me for a few more years no matter what Logitech does (and more than 2 or 3 years out, I'm not worried about one way or the other). I'm not worried about bug fixes because the entire LMS system will work for me as is right now for my local music (my primary interest) and internet radio, even if nothing is fixed or improved. p.s. In the past I have purchased certain extra parts when they were available cheap for my 1959 Karmin Ghia, 1967 MG-B, and 1965 VW Beetle. At the time I bought the cars (and the extra parts), the auto manufacturers no longer produced (or supported in any real way) the cars. Some of those parts came in very handy and I used them, some were handed over to the later purchasers of the cars. They were happy (and so was I ;-) garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96578 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Should I buy a Squeezebox Touch?
jhonsber...@msn.com wrote: Buying a discontinued product that relies on bug fixes to maintain its functionality when there is some doubt as to whether Logitech will put forth the effort to correct those problems Is ludicrous IMO . I just want to stream my large library of FLAC files gaplessly - I don't need anything more than that...I'm not sure I understand what these bug fixes to maintain functionality that you mention are. I've been using squeezeboxes for years, and I don't think there is anything truly equivalent to them out there right now...it is worth it to me to pick up an extra unit or two in order to feel that I don't have to think about migrating to a different hardware platform anytime in the near future if I don't choose to do so. Benefactor's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=25904 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96578 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Should I buy a Squeezebox Touch?
jhonsber...@msn.com wrote: Buying a discontinued product that relies on bug fixes to maintain its functionality when there is some doubt as to whether Logitech will put forth the effort to correct those problems Is ludicrous IMO . Just curious, what bug do I need fixed to keep playing my music on the Touch just as I've been doing for the past 2 1/2 years? (And, yes, I just bought another for a spare.) I know there will always be someone that wants this change or that one, but that is true of any product ever made. Even products still in production never deliver all of the possible improvements. For whatever reason, there is nothing else comparable on the market right now, and with the current marketing trends, the only new products I see coming are either the very expensive audiophile units, the $100 and under Apple TV/Roku types that are aimed at the video market, not audio, or self-contained players focused on internet radio, ala the recently re-purposed UE Radio. mlsstl's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9598 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96578 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Should I buy a Squeezebox Touch?
mlsstl wrote: Just curious, what bug do I need fixed to keep playing my music on the Touch just as I've been doing for the past 2 1/2 years? (And, yes, I just bought another for a spare.) I know there will always be someone that wants this change or that one, but that is true of any product ever made. Even products still in production never deliver all of the possible improvements. For whatever reason, there is nothing else comparable on the market right now, and with the current marketing trends, the only new products I see coming are either the very expensive audiophile units, the $100 and under Apple TV/Roku types that are aimed at the video market, not audio, or self-contained players focused on internet radio, ala the recently re-purposed UE Radio. Very well stated. It should also be noted when using the Touch's digital output fed into an external DAC, the Touch is the equal of any audiophile music streamer, regardless of price. Plus the Touch's analog outputs are first rate as well. The final kicker is that I'm fairly certain that there will always be a way for me to stream my digital music files (99% flac) to my stereo system, whether that involved a Touch, a Transporter or some other non-Logitech device. Buying a Touch will always be a good decision. ralphpnj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10827 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96578 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Should I buy a Squeezebox Touch?
Still available through Amazon at the Marketplace. They did go up to $280 since last week. Nonreality's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15723 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96578 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Should I buy a Squeezebox Touch?
travelfotografer wrote: Sold out and marked discontinued on Crutchfield Sold out and no indication of restocking on Amazon.com (except third party sellers) Sorry to hear that. I must have gotten one of the last ones because the Touch arrived on this past Wednesday and it is up and running and sounds great. ralphpnj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10827 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96578 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Should I buy a Squeezebox Touch?
I am fine, I got mine (for backup) when it was still available from Amazon.com I was just commenting how it appears the Touch is really in the process of being sold out. ralphpnj wrote: Sorry to hear that. I must have gotten one of the last ones because the Touch arrived on this past Wednesday and it is up and running and sounds great. travelfotografer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96578 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Should I buy a Squeezebox Touch?
FWIW, Touches are still in stock at BH Photo here in NYC. $259 free shipping (USA). https://secure.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?Ntt=logitech+squeezeboxN=0InitialSearch=yessts=maTop+Nav-Search= Benefactor's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=25904 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96578 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Should I buy a Squeezebox Touch?
All this talk about whether or not to buy a Touch got me to thinking that now would be a good time to pick up another Touch before they are all gone since Logitech no longer appears to be manufacturing or offering the Touch. Luckily I was able to find a new Touch from Crutchfield (here in the USA) for $230 with shipping. ralphpnj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10827 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96578 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Should I buy a Squeezebox Touch?
geobrick wrote: So it's pretty much what I expected. The touch would be in place of the PC I have hooked up to the receiver For most users a Touch is not in place of the PC, it's a go between device, linking the PC (server music library) to the stereo. Particularly for those that may want: - additional input methods (touch screen IR) - additional visual feedback navigation (screen) - multiple audio outs of very good quality - no desire or inability to have a computer anywhere near the stereo (my PC and stereo are not even on the same floor of my house) Basically it's getting back to the separates of audio video components offering more flexibility in user options and features. Just as with your Home Theater PC setup, you can likely play CD/DVD/Blu-ray on your PC to your stereo or you can opt to have a separate hardware device for such use. Some will do so with a PC while others will want a separate/dedicated device. toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96578 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Should I buy a Squeezebox Touch?
geobrick wrote: With that setup, how would I benefit from the Squeezebox Touch? I know people love it but I think my setup covers everything it does. If I'm missing something let me know so I can buy one before they become scarce. Definitely! But it depends a bit on your listening behaviour. If you always listen to music with your computer switched on, or always keep your computer switched on than there is no need. Just imaging what mains power your computer is using when it is switched on. The Touch' power drain is probably 1% of that. If you tend to listen to music all day and not spending time at you computer all day, consider switching off your computa (and all the noisy fans and stuff) you might save quite considerably on your energy bill. jk th00ht's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15656 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96578 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Should I buy a Squeezebox Touch?
geobrick wrote: Yes I agree turning on the TV just to listen to music isn't good. For that reason the touch may be worth buying. I need to look into the SqueezePlay for Windows with ASIO, DirectSound, WASAPI and WDMKS device support. The Squeezeplay version I'm using uses the default audio device so I have to set windows to use the digital out as the default. The windows mixer may be messing with the bits. George Some of the smartphone apps could also help with controll ,without the TV on , as long as the server is running and is connected to your lan and your able to to connect a phone pod or pad to it . Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96578 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Should I buy a Squeezebox Touch?
th00ht wrote: Definitely! But it depends a bit on your listening behaviour. If you always listen to music with your computer switched on, or always keep your computer switched on than there is no need. Just imaging what mains power your computer is using when it is switched on. The Touch' power drain is probably 1% of that. If you tend to listen to music all day and not spending time at you computer all day, consider switching off your computa (and all the noisy fans and stuff) you might save quite considerably on your energy bill, while still enjoying some nice tunes. jk The media center PC does sleep. It wakes when WMC needs to record or when I want to watch TV. All the music is stored on the same PC running LMS so if I want to listen, I turn it all on. I use a logitech harmony that can control a wmc PC. It turns everything I need on and wakes the computer too. The touch is a more elegant way of doing it but I just don't think I need it in my current set up. The replies here helped verify that but I also learned about how there are advantages to it even in my current set up. geobrick's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56650 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96578 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Should I buy a Squeezebox Touch?
Mnyb wrote: Some of the smartphone apps could also help with controll ,without the TV on , as long as the server is running and is connected to your lan and your able to to connect a phone pod or pad to it . yes, I forgot to say that I do use an old iphone as a controller. I even paid for an app that turns the phone into a player too. I can also use the squeezebox radio as the controller without the TV being on. The radio can do it with one button because I have a preset for random play. The computer and reciever still need to be on with squeezeplay running though. I usually turn the TV off after I get it all running. geobrick's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56650 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96578 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Should I buy a Squeezebox Touch?
You might find interesting a group test of digital players in HiFi Choice XI/2011 where Touch was tested as well... http://audioz.info/study/ebook/sound_magazines/32459-download_hi-fi-choice-november-2011-hq-pdf.html congole's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40776 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96578 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Should I buy a Squeezebox Touch?
I think the only people who should seriously consider getting additional devices are the people that already bought into the Squeezebox system big-time and plan on using it for the next few years. At least until there is a mature alternative available. If you are fine with what you have now and only have one real SB player, then it's not much hassle for you if that should break down at a certain point in time. You just buy something else that plays music. hvb83's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=39615 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96578 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Should I buy a Squeezebox Touch?
geobrick wrote: So it's pretty much what I expected. The touch would be in place of the PC I have hooked up to the receiver. I admit using a Windows 7 PC as a music player overkill in most cases but in my case, the PC is part of the entertainment system (running windows Media Center using a 'silicon dust Home Run' with a cable card) so it's already hooked up to my receiver. It was simple to just add squeezeplay and the LMS and suddenly I had a whole house system that can synchronize to other PCs and the squeeze box radio I bought about a month ago. The whole squeezebox/slimdevices system is great. I wish I discovered it sooner but I think it will all still function for at least a few more years maybe longer. I may still want to buy the touch for future needs but the replies posted here show that I'm not missing any capability with my current setup. As far as being limited to the PC's sound card, that's true but in my case, I'm using the digital output so it relies on the receivers DAC which is nothing audiophile-exotic but it's pretty good (It's built in to a pioneer AV Receiver). you got that a hardware squeezebox is typically used when the server is somewhere else (thatÂ’s the whole point ) . Do you got any iPhone or android app to control your softplayer ? Turning on the TV to control music is a bit awkward imo . There are some streaming service that are only supported on a real squeezebox . Depending on squeezeplay version it could be issues with hirez files 24/48 and possibly with bit-perfectness ,but as you have a media server you probably know all about getting bitperfect output wo having the OS re-sampling or otherwise interfere . Thats the soundqulity issue that a hardware squeezebox bypasses, sometimes the OS does things to the sound on old XP you had to avoid the kernel mixer and use ASAPI or kernel streaming . As a hardware squeezebox just works independent of the host servers audio system (hardware or software) you don't have to bother , example I don't think i have any working sound on my HP microserver that is my server. Ralphy have released . SqueezePlay for Windows with ASIO, DirectSound, WASAPI and WDMKS device support. This may further amend any differences that could theoretically be there. http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?96573-SqueezePlay-for-Windows-with-ASIO-DirectSound-WASAPI-and-WDMKS-device-support Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96578 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Should I buy a Squeezebox Touch?
As Tim stated, if you're happy as is then there is no need to buy a Touch. However, that said, the main reason to get a Touch would be use the Touch rather than your current computer/Squeezeplay combo to play your music. This would mean that you would no longer need a computer as part of your music playback system. One reason I use a Touch rather than Squeezeplay is that I don't have to worry about all those annoying sounds and noises that always seem to pop up when I have my computer hooked up to my stereo. Open a web page and there is some video or audio that starts playing without my asking. With the Touch I just hear the music that I want to listen to and nothing else. ralphpnj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10827 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96578 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Should I buy a Squeezebox Touch?
Touch is not dependent on quality of sound card in your computer. Also you can sync with radio. garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96578 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Should I buy a Squeezebox Touch?
ralphpnj wrote: However, that said, the main reason to get a Touch would be use the Touch rather than your current computer/Squeezeplay combo to play your music. This would mean that you would no longer need a computer as part of your music playback system. So it's pretty much what I expected. The touch would be in place of the PC I have hooked up to the receiver. I admit using a Windows 7 PC as a music player overkill in most cases but in my case, the PC is part of the entertainment system (running windows Media Center with a 'silicon dust Home Run with a cable card) so it's already hooked up to my receiver. It was simple to just add squeezeplay and the LMS and suddenly I had a whole house system that can synchronize to other PCs and the squeeze box radio I bought about a month ago. The whole squeezebox/slimdevices system is great. I wish I discovered it sooner but I think it will all still function for at least a few more years maybe longer. I may still want to buy the touch for future needs but the replies posted here show that I'm not missing any capability with my current setup. As far as being limited to the PC's sound card, that's true but in my case, I'm using the digital output so it relies on the receivers DAC which is nothing audiophile-exotic but it's pretty good (It's built in to a pioneer AV Receiver). geobrick's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56650 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96578 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Should I buy a Squeezebox Touch?
geobrick wrote: So it's pretty much what I expected. The touch would be in place of the PC I have hooked up to the receiver. I admit using a Windows 7 PC as a music player overkill in most cases but in my case, the PC is part of the entertainment system (running windows Media Center using a 'silicon dust Home Run' with a cable card) so it's already hooked up to my receiver. It was simple to just add squeezeplay and the LMS and suddenly I had a whole house system that can synchronize to other PCs and the squeeze box radio I bought about a month ago. The whole squeezebox/slimdevices system is great. I wish I discovered it sooner but I think it will all still function for at least a few more years maybe longer. I may still want to buy the touch for future needs but the replies posted here show that I'm not missing any capability with my current setup. As far as being limited to the PC's sound card, that's true but in my case, I'm using the digital output so it relies on the receivers DAC which is nothing audiophile-exotic but it's pretty good (It's built in to a pioneer AV Receiver). I think you've got a good understanding of the options based on your comments above. And I agree. My only plus for picking up a TOUCH now, is that it is relatively easy to get a new one and relatively cheap (particularly for what it does). If you decide you wish you had a TOUCH a year from now it will either not be easily available or you might have to even pay a bit of a premium. But as you said, you can do everything you want now, so no action is really necessary. garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96578 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
